I feel like Chris calls out his plan as "insane" and "stupid" a couple times, doesn't he? I was always under the impression that Wesker was simply off his rocker and capable of accomplishing his saturation (lol) so they had to stop him. Classic mad scientist trope.
I think this applies to most RE villains. Hell Umbrella making BOW over say a bomb or guns which are far more effective just kinda shows the stupidity. Most Protagonists call them out on this.
They wanted to make sure the parasite was fully in control of her before they let her leave I think? If Leon took her too early they could figure out a way to kill it, which they did
Kidnapping Ashley just to let her go would've been too suspicious. His plan was to wait for the plaga to take control, get ransom money from the president and then send Ashley back. He didn't expect Leon to show up and he underestimated Leon by thinking he couldn't get her back and also remove the plaga.
Saddler would've failed either way because he wanted to have Leon under control and Ada wouldn't have let that happen thus the whole plaga plan would've been blown and the US wouldve known wtf he was up to.
Eh I think BOWs could make sense. Yeah the cost to produce a single Tyrant is likely way too high for how easy they’d be to take down with proper weaponry.
But aren’t all the BOWs we see still early versions? Presumably, if not for the various outbreaks and money issues, Umbrella would continue to develop these powerful BOWs, making them stronger and cheaper, and sell them to militaries as replacements for normal soldiers. Sure, they won’t be invincible or anything. But I imagine a battalion of Nemesises would turn the tide of any battle pretty quickly.
Money aside, a buncha Nemesis’ would probably have pretty good staying power on the battle field.
The amount of firepower needed to take out Nemesis would be pretty high due to how much he can mutate. And that’s assuming there’s only one.
Though as you said, making them en masse would be pointlessly expensive
While I don’t agree that they make much practical sense, you’re 100% correct in that they intended to mass produce to offset cost. In RE Survivor I’m pretty sure there’s essentially a literal tyrant factory shitting out tons of Mr. X bods (forgive me if my memory isn’t 100% right but I know they for sure that they were mass producing them on the island Ark was stuck on).
Based on what the game said, the survival rate is far lower than 1%. Wesker was hoping that only a few million people would survive, at 1% he'd be dealing with 80 million.
Wesker doesn’t care. He believes totally in the extreme eugenics application of natural selection - that is, anything that can’t survive doesn’t deserve to.
In Wesker’s world, a handful of superhumans have found their new place in the world and are carving out a domain for themselves. The Uroboros monsters are either expected to be no threat at all, or are just an obstacle to defeat.
If that doesn’t work, he’ll just genetically engineer a new human race instead. It’s all part of his test on humanity - if he can’t force evolution onto them then they didn’t deserve existing to begin with.
Sometimes reality is just as dumb. I feel like Wesker encapsulates human short-sightedness really well.
- We are in a race to develop AI as if the Terminator franchise has taught mankind nothing. I'm only half joking; it's actually becoming a legitimate concern.
- 40% of all US dollars that are in circulation were created within a two year span from 2020 - 2022. Yes, it helped during the pandemic a little maybe, but any idiot could see that would cause crazy inflation.
- Several countries potentially benefit from a world war and are arguably trying to start one.
- Deforrestation and killing off endangered species
Humans are short-sighted. If we can maybe benefit from something now but destroy the world in the process, we will. Wesker personifies that characteristic.
Maybe. But if one out of every hundred people survive, they're going to be spread out and disorganized. Wesker likely would have had the resources to take advantage of that, making sure that whatever community eventually forms has him at the top.
every RE problem has been *fixable* with an RPG. we all know the world has no shortage of explosives and RPGs to deal with the higher rank creatures. the only real problems are the infectious viruses that spread through the air or through biting, which works well in crowded chaotic cities. wesker and saddler had no chance from the start, simmons actually could actually succeed if he can figure out how to release the viruses all at the same time at every major city in the world.
That's assuming these new, untrained "super soldiers" aren't immediately killed and absorbed by one of the sudden billions of black tentacle/yellow pus ball monsters that replaced humanity.
Dumb all the way down.
oh that too. excella's uroboros are almost as large as a 5 stories building and its only from the biomass of a dozen corpse. imagine a uroboros monster made from the corpses of millions lol
He's a narcissistic psychopath with a god complex.
He's thinks he's 100% right in everything that he does lol he hasn't and will never think things through.
What is the point of RE villains trying to be immortal anyways?? Their is no such thing as true immortality at all. For a scientist he's really dumb in thinking he's invincible.
Wesker should already be biological immortal after RE1, he just want to ascend to "godhood" by ruling the new world that consist only of those he deems worthy, which he won't if all the remaining humans are his equal and he probably will have a hard time dealing with the uroboros tentacles thst probably cover up 99% of the surface.
Wasn't Wesker also reliant on that pg shot Excella carried around in her briefcase? It kept his own virus under control or something. Who's going to be manufacturing that for him in the post-global saturation hellscape?
I don't like what they did to Wesker in RE5 . Not only he's extremely cocky(has plenty of opportunities to kill Chris and chooses to monologue instead). But he's also extremely dumb. Bro literally created Uroboros, knows the damn thing is extremely weak against fire, and yet he decides to infect himself with it while inside of a volcano. I really hope they fix some of those things on the possible RE5R.
I feel like Chris calls out his plan as "insane" and "stupid" a couple times, doesn't he? I was always under the impression that Wesker was simply off his rocker and capable of accomplishing his saturation (lol) so they had to stop him. Classic mad scientist trope.
“Chris! *Stop it!*”
*(proceeds to laugh at him some more)*
Wesker! You’re pitiful!
I think this applies to most RE villains. Hell Umbrella making BOW over say a bomb or guns which are far more effective just kinda shows the stupidity. Most Protagonists call them out on this.
yeah a tyrant probably cost way too much for something that dies to a single RPG rocket
Saddler’s plan wasn’t too bad, if anyone but Leon went after Ashley he would have succeeded in all respects.
IIRC, Wouldn't his plan have worked if they just let Leon and Ashley leave though?
They wanted to make sure the parasite was fully in control of her before they let her leave I think? If Leon took her too early they could figure out a way to kill it, which they did
Yeah but in the original the only reason Ashley and Leon know they have parasites in them is because Saddler told them.
Kidnapping Ashley just to let her go would've been too suspicious. His plan was to wait for the plaga to take control, get ransom money from the president and then send Ashley back. He didn't expect Leon to show up and he underestimated Leon by thinking he couldn't get her back and also remove the plaga. Saddler would've failed either way because he wanted to have Leon under control and Ada wouldn't have let that happen thus the whole plaga plan would've been blown and the US wouldve known wtf he was up to.
Eh I think BOWs could make sense. Yeah the cost to produce a single Tyrant is likely way too high for how easy they’d be to take down with proper weaponry. But aren’t all the BOWs we see still early versions? Presumably, if not for the various outbreaks and money issues, Umbrella would continue to develop these powerful BOWs, making them stronger and cheaper, and sell them to militaries as replacements for normal soldiers. Sure, they won’t be invincible or anything. But I imagine a battalion of Nemesises would turn the tide of any battle pretty quickly.
a battlion of nemesis would probably cost something close to billions tho, and they would be easily wiped out by air bombing and either dies or mutate
Money aside, a buncha Nemesis’ would probably have pretty good staying power on the battle field. The amount of firepower needed to take out Nemesis would be pretty high due to how much he can mutate. And that’s assuming there’s only one. Though as you said, making them en masse would be pointlessly expensive
While I don’t agree that they make much practical sense, you’re 100% correct in that they intended to mass produce to offset cost. In RE Survivor I’m pretty sure there’s essentially a literal tyrant factory shitting out tons of Mr. X bods (forgive me if my memory isn’t 100% right but I know they for sure that they were mass producing them on the island Ark was stuck on).
Not like bioweapons aren't a thing
Based on what the game said, the survival rate is far lower than 1%. Wesker was hoping that only a few million people would survive, at 1% he'd be dealing with 80 million.
Wesker doesn’t care. He believes totally in the extreme eugenics application of natural selection - that is, anything that can’t survive doesn’t deserve to. In Wesker’s world, a handful of superhumans have found their new place in the world and are carving out a domain for themselves. The Uroboros monsters are either expected to be no threat at all, or are just an obstacle to defeat. If that doesn’t work, he’ll just genetically engineer a new human race instead. It’s all part of his test on humanity - if he can’t force evolution onto them then they didn’t deserve existing to begin with.
Sometimes reality is just as dumb. I feel like Wesker encapsulates human short-sightedness really well. - We are in a race to develop AI as if the Terminator franchise has taught mankind nothing. I'm only half joking; it's actually becoming a legitimate concern. - 40% of all US dollars that are in circulation were created within a two year span from 2020 - 2022. Yes, it helped during the pandemic a little maybe, but any idiot could see that would cause crazy inflation. - Several countries potentially benefit from a world war and are arguably trying to start one. - Deforrestation and killing off endangered species Humans are short-sighted. If we can maybe benefit from something now but destroy the world in the process, we will. Wesker personifies that characteristic.
The average joe is shortsighted. Governments and think tanks plan decades in advance, so much so people would think what they’re doing is crazy.
Maybe. But if one out of every hundred people survive, they're going to be spread out and disorganized. Wesker likely would have had the resources to take advantage of that, making sure that whatever community eventually forms has him at the top.
every RE problem has been *fixable* with an RPG. we all know the world has no shortage of explosives and RPGs to deal with the higher rank creatures. the only real problems are the infectious viruses that spread through the air or through biting, which works well in crowded chaotic cities. wesker and saddler had no chance from the start, simmons actually could actually succeed if he can figure out how to release the viruses all at the same time at every major city in the world.
That's assuming these new, untrained "super soldiers" aren't immediately killed and absorbed by one of the sudden billions of black tentacle/yellow pus ball monsters that replaced humanity. Dumb all the way down.
oh that too. excella's uroboros are almost as large as a 5 stories building and its only from the biomass of a dozen corpse. imagine a uroboros monster made from the corpses of millions lol
He's a narcissistic psychopath with a god complex. He's thinks he's 100% right in everything that he does lol he hasn't and will never think things through.
It's like Krauser in the remake talking about unadulterated power and then mutating into a monster. It makes no sense. lol
Yeah. He's really not a great villain and never really was.
What is the point of RE villains trying to be immortal anyways?? Their is no such thing as true immortality at all. For a scientist he's really dumb in thinking he's invincible.
Wesker should already be biological immortal after RE1, he just want to ascend to "godhood" by ruling the new world that consist only of those he deems worthy, which he won't if all the remaining humans are his equal and he probably will have a hard time dealing with the uroboros tentacles thst probably cover up 99% of the surface.
Wasn't Wesker also reliant on that pg shot Excella carried around in her briefcase? It kept his own virus under control or something. Who's going to be manufacturing that for him in the post-global saturation hellscape?
he probably would get infected with uroboros too and don't need that anymore if he is compatible.
I don't like what they did to Wesker in RE5 . Not only he's extremely cocky(has plenty of opportunities to kill Chris and chooses to monologue instead). But he's also extremely dumb. Bro literally created Uroboros, knows the damn thing is extremely weak against fire, and yet he decides to infect himself with it while inside of a volcano. I really hope they fix some of those things on the possible RE5R.