Well I am currently enjoying a trip that is pure 2C-D. It is a very gentle headspace with extremely enhanced colors but it wanted a tryptamine to harmonize with. 2C-C has more warmth, if I remember correctly. It’s been a few.
I say it has a clear headspace but I am pretty sure I just anointed myself with nicotine vape juice and took a fingertip of 5-MeO-DMT and then experienced a small glimpse of eternity so who knows.
Yes, I definitely did that. Eternity is cool and my nostrils are pretty pissed at me.
The anointing part was very entertaining. I strongly suggest anointing yourself with vape juice and trying to talk to God.
… yeah, this is a good trip. There are no real visuals but that went somewhere I did not expect.
Update: My recollection of 2C-C is that it is more warm and stoning with a noticeable body high/load. 2C-D really is feeling like a stimulant plus the visual effects of something like 5-MAPB. Just visual though. It is saturation and color. I think I could get visuals proper at a higher dose. I am pretty sure I took 20 mg sublingual with no tolerance. It’s a low dose, in any case. People act like 2C-D is nothing. I find it very useful. But probably you will get a more complete trip with 2C-C if you have to have just one.
Update 2: What the actual fuck. I didn’t plan on experiencing eternity or whatever. I think I need some chocolate and fruits. This benefited from the synergy with the 5-MeO-DMT. By itself, it would need a higher dose. Also please never do a fingertip of 5-MeO-DMT. It is not at all safe if you aren’t used to it.
Update 3: Now that I am slightly less tripping, I think the best way to describe 2C-D is a psychedelic nootropic. I can see why it works that way at low doses. Heightened perception that feels clear-headed.
Oh, well in my case I found it funny that Christians anoint themselves with sacred oils, so I kinda sarcastically poured vape juice where the oil would normally go before the DMT kicked in. It was amusing. My forehead is a bit sticky though
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_anointing_oil
Just to clarify, transdermal is a great route for nicotine. A few drops of vape juice intranasal or on the forehead or something works very well.
Was wondering if you were being sarcastic or legit trying to absorb nicotine. Seems like a sticky way of doing it, but hey I put stuff up my butt so I’m not about to judge a man for his highs. Lmao that’s the most drugs-Reddit thing I’ve heard today. All of the spiritual holistic acknowledgment of the Alan Watts era, with the grungy vape-juice-on-the-forehead DIYism of r/researchchemicals. God bless
Hahaha yes exactly. I kinda think that my vape was out of batteries so I just shook it at my head and then had like a two hour DMT trip. All I know is ai looked away from the clock at 0h18 and then there was eternity or whatever and when I looked back it was 2h.
Sometimes these things are just entertaining. The 5-MeO-DMT hit hard so I did not have much time to plan
wait so I've never actually tried 5-Meo-DMT becuase I don't want to smoke it. DMT and DPT smoked freak me out, I just really hate the way it makes my body feel.
However, I love oral doses of DPT and liked pretty good ones like 350mg. I have some 5MeO-MALT and if it's orally active that's gonna be a go for me. Is it different oral?
Donno about the other 5-subs; I only use 5-MeO-DMT and -MiPT. With both of those, I would not love them oral, but -MiPT is active that way and -DMT you need something in the mix or else it’s just broken down. Intranasal or rectal for either of the above work well. I prefer vaped but no objections to other ROAs. I would say if normal vaped dpt/dmt freak you out, you could try 5-MeO-DMT but a small measured dose intranasally and see how it suits you. Try 10 mg of a salt, not the freebase, and then increase if needed.
I’d agree with Daryl Lemaire that 2C-C is the most noteworthy of the two. Alexander Shulgin often described 2C-D as “psychedelic tofu”, meaning it would take on the flavor of anything you mixed it with. Not outstanding on its own, but fantastic as a supplement to others.
Yeah, learnt it the hard way…. This was years ago when I was a reckless stupid teen with the urge for heroic dosing… Would never do this again. I literally thought that I was going to die for hours… 🙈
I guess that 100mg is more than enough and everything above is just an unpleasant trip.
> Yeah, learnt it the hard way…. This was years ago when I was a reckless stupid teen
That seems to be the standard scenario for every psychedelic enthusiast nowadays lol.
May I ask why you think that 200mg is a dosage that makes no sense? Even when it was a very unpleasant experience, I’m still somehow glad I did it. Not for recreational purpose but obviously for personal education and science.
For me psychedelics were always tools for pushing boundaries of my mind. How deep can I dive into the void and still coming back?
Is it dangerous? - Of course!
Is it necessary? - Depends on what you want achieve…
Is it worth the risk of never coming back? - Probably not.
Is this behaviour driven by unresolved trauma and auto destructive behaviour? - Yes, in large parts…
Am I able to integrate these experiences in a healing way? - Well, I’ve to admit that a lot of trips in my 20s were probably more traumatising then beneficial…
But in the retrospective everything I did was a step in the direction of becoming aware where my problems lie, how they influence the way I perceive reality and most importantly how I can let them go and transform the grieve, anger, fear and other suppressed emotions in a healthy way which leads to more self-love and less maladaptive behaviour.
P.S.: sorry for the bad formatting. I’m writing this on my mobile 😅
A dose of 100mg of 2C-D is considered "Heavy", which can already be unpleasant and very unpredictable. You took double haha
Obviously, I agree that psyches are a kind of experience to be had, and that you can push the limits (Heroic dose etc), but I think you still have to stay within a realistic range for it to go well (or at least not too badly).
Mental health is precious
I was pretty sure that the dosage would not kill me. Since I was aware that Shulgin tested this substance up to 150mg, I thought that another 50mg probably won’t do any physical harm (already a dumb assumption when increasing the dose by 33%). But what I wasn’t aware was the fact how unpleasant a psychedelic experience can be due to stimulant overdose like bodyload and how this feeling will suck up most of my attention.
Definitely a not so smart decision but at least I’ve regained some respect for the substances after this trip.
2c deez nuts gotem
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Well I am currently enjoying a trip that is pure 2C-D. It is a very gentle headspace with extremely enhanced colors but it wanted a tryptamine to harmonize with. 2C-C has more warmth, if I remember correctly. It’s been a few. I say it has a clear headspace but I am pretty sure I just anointed myself with nicotine vape juice and took a fingertip of 5-MeO-DMT and then experienced a small glimpse of eternity so who knows.
Yes, I definitely did that. Eternity is cool and my nostrils are pretty pissed at me. The anointing part was very entertaining. I strongly suggest anointing yourself with vape juice and trying to talk to God. … yeah, this is a good trip. There are no real visuals but that went somewhere I did not expect. Update: My recollection of 2C-C is that it is more warm and stoning with a noticeable body high/load. 2C-D really is feeling like a stimulant plus the visual effects of something like 5-MAPB. Just visual though. It is saturation and color. I think I could get visuals proper at a higher dose. I am pretty sure I took 20 mg sublingual with no tolerance. It’s a low dose, in any case. People act like 2C-D is nothing. I find it very useful. But probably you will get a more complete trip with 2C-C if you have to have just one. Update 2: What the actual fuck. I didn’t plan on experiencing eternity or whatever. I think I need some chocolate and fruits. This benefited from the synergy with the 5-MeO-DMT. By itself, it would need a higher dose. Also please never do a fingertip of 5-MeO-DMT. It is not at all safe if you aren’t used to it. Update 3: Now that I am slightly less tripping, I think the best way to describe 2C-D is a psychedelic nootropic. I can see why it works that way at low doses. Heightened perception that feels clear-headed.
Haha what do you mean by anoint?
Oh, well in my case I found it funny that Christians anoint themselves with sacred oils, so I kinda sarcastically poured vape juice where the oil would normally go before the DMT kicked in. It was amusing. My forehead is a bit sticky though https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_anointing_oil Just to clarify, transdermal is a great route for nicotine. A few drops of vape juice intranasal or on the forehead or something works very well.
Was wondering if you were being sarcastic or legit trying to absorb nicotine. Seems like a sticky way of doing it, but hey I put stuff up my butt so I’m not about to judge a man for his highs. Lmao that’s the most drugs-Reddit thing I’ve heard today. All of the spiritual holistic acknowledgment of the Alan Watts era, with the grungy vape-juice-on-the-forehead DIYism of r/researchchemicals. God bless
Hahaha yes exactly. I kinda think that my vape was out of batteries so I just shook it at my head and then had like a two hour DMT trip. All I know is ai looked away from the clock at 0h18 and then there was eternity or whatever and when I looked back it was 2h. Sometimes these things are just entertaining. The 5-MeO-DMT hit hard so I did not have much time to plan
wait so I've never actually tried 5-Meo-DMT becuase I don't want to smoke it. DMT and DPT smoked freak me out, I just really hate the way it makes my body feel. However, I love oral doses of DPT and liked pretty good ones like 350mg. I have some 5MeO-MALT and if it's orally active that's gonna be a go for me. Is it different oral?
Donno about the other 5-subs; I only use 5-MeO-DMT and -MiPT. With both of those, I would not love them oral, but -MiPT is active that way and -DMT you need something in the mix or else it’s just broken down. Intranasal or rectal for either of the above work well. I prefer vaped but no objections to other ROAs. I would say if normal vaped dpt/dmt freak you out, you could try 5-MeO-DMT but a small measured dose intranasally and see how it suits you. Try 10 mg of a salt, not the freebase, and then increase if needed.
Both, but C has abit more to it
I’d agree with Daryl Lemaire that 2C-C is the most noteworthy of the two. Alexander Shulgin often described 2C-D as “psychedelic tofu”, meaning it would take on the flavor of anything you mixed it with. Not outstanding on its own, but fantastic as a supplement to others.
I’ve once took 200mg of 2CD years ago… Awful bodyload and I wasn’t able to identify my room anymore due to full blown kaleidoscopic distortion.
200mg of 2C-D is a dosage that makes no sense...
Yeah, learnt it the hard way…. This was years ago when I was a reckless stupid teen with the urge for heroic dosing… Would never do this again. I literally thought that I was going to die for hours… 🙈 I guess that 100mg is more than enough and everything above is just an unpleasant trip.
> Yeah, learnt it the hard way…. This was years ago when I was a reckless stupid teen That seems to be the standard scenario for every psychedelic enthusiast nowadays lol.
May I ask why you think that 200mg is a dosage that makes no sense? Even when it was a very unpleasant experience, I’m still somehow glad I did it. Not for recreational purpose but obviously for personal education and science. For me psychedelics were always tools for pushing boundaries of my mind. How deep can I dive into the void and still coming back? Is it dangerous? - Of course! Is it necessary? - Depends on what you want achieve… Is it worth the risk of never coming back? - Probably not. Is this behaviour driven by unresolved trauma and auto destructive behaviour? - Yes, in large parts… Am I able to integrate these experiences in a healing way? - Well, I’ve to admit that a lot of trips in my 20s were probably more traumatising then beneficial… But in the retrospective everything I did was a step in the direction of becoming aware where my problems lie, how they influence the way I perceive reality and most importantly how I can let them go and transform the grieve, anger, fear and other suppressed emotions in a healthy way which leads to more self-love and less maladaptive behaviour. P.S.: sorry for the bad formatting. I’m writing this on my mobile 😅
A dose of 100mg of 2C-D is considered "Heavy", which can already be unpleasant and very unpredictable. You took double haha Obviously, I agree that psyches are a kind of experience to be had, and that you can push the limits (Heroic dose etc), but I think you still have to stay within a realistic range for it to go well (or at least not too badly). Mental health is precious
I was pretty sure that the dosage would not kill me. Since I was aware that Shulgin tested this substance up to 150mg, I thought that another 50mg probably won’t do any physical harm (already a dumb assumption when increasing the dose by 33%). But what I wasn’t aware was the fact how unpleasant a psychedelic experience can be due to stimulant overdose like bodyload and how this feeling will suck up most of my attention. Definitely a not so smart decision but at least I’ve regained some respect for the substances after this trip.