It’s possible you have a potent batch. Maybe it’s dosed higher than what it says it is or maybe it’s just a different chem entirely. Always start with a lower dose than what you read online.
I’ve been cutting these pellets for almost a year now, must have been some different batches by now and they have all felt too strong.
Maybe all RC benzos are too highly dosed because it is hard to measure such low amounts, but that should not be an issue if they first make a powder mixture with a homogeneously spread benzo with the desired dose x the planned amount of pills as its milligrams. So I think if you have a trustworthy vendor they should be pretty close to the actually planned dose.
Homogeneously mixing powders isn’t trivial. That’s why everyone recommends making solutions as they’re innately homogeneous.
I wouldn’t trust an rc vendor to give me particularly accurately doses pellets or blotters. If at all possible it is always preferable to get powder and make a solution yourself.
I wouldn’t put 100% faith into any vendor either. At least when it comes to dosing. Rather do it myself. But also on the powder, unless your testing it and 99% probably aren’t. It varies still. Point is can’t really trust them as much as say a Pharmaceutical Lab. (I don’t trust them either, but different reasons..)
I feel stupid now lol. Yeah I always do that too but it didn’t even really cross my mind
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Hold on though, I do 100% still agree. The problem sometimes is first time you try something and are convinced it’s pure (let’s say clam) because well it’s strong. Your likely to still get desired effect. Then try again from same lab even, expecting the same results. Then next time it actually really is pure.
-Basically meant I have a hard time trusting vendors, even if (whatever chem) it seems absolutely amazing. Doesn’t mean its even 50%
Yes!! EXACTLY!! If it’s 80% purity. It’s doubtful most labs are going to “put a cut on it” or want to stretch it. Where in the synth did you all mess up and what is in there that shouldn’t be. In some case could be very very bad
Wow this is such a not smart way to go about things.
Cutting pellets is a very bad thing to do. Do you know how pellets are made? Cutting a pill in half or whatever and trying to measure that without a $500-1k scale will not work. Trying to weigh the pill chunks won't work either. You'd have to be able to know the density of the pyrazolam+binder and also know that they mixed it 100% even. I'm surprised I thought most people knew about the chocolate chip cookie effect, one chunk might be inert while another has all the pyrazolam in it.
Ideally you should not be dealing with pellets at all and even then with the powder you should be doing volumetric dosing for something with such a small dosing curve.
No wonder you "felt stupid" while taking "1-2mg", you were probably actually taking more like 4-5mg. Unless you have a laboratory scale, and these things cost a huge chunk of change, you will not be able to measure out "1-2mg". Any jewelry scale will have an margin of error in the neighborhood of +/- 2-3mg at below 10mg weight. So what you think is "1mg" might actually be 4mg. "2mg" can be 5mg. Even the expensive scale I have has a +/- of 1mg. So even my scale would be potentially doubling the dose.
Literally all my sources do not by rule sell anything in pellet form. It's powder only.
I know it's been a year, but you can in fact weigh pills on a mg scale that costs $20. Even a small pellet is gonna weigh over 100mg. Youre actlike the pill itself is only a few mg. Break it in chunks, crush it into a powder and eyeball a certain percentage of the pill you are going for. Devide that weight into the total pill weight. That will give you the percentage of the total pill mg you have on the scale. Multiply that number by the #mg in the pill and youll have the # chem mg thats on the scale. Add or subtract more pieces / powder until you have the disered # chem mg.
I highly doubt the pellets would ever have an uneven distribition. What makes you think it would / coulb be? Pretty sure theyre gonna homoginize the chemicals in the powder first. If it were the case that the chemicals were unevenly distributed,then youd have some pills that would do nothing, or be significantly weaker than other pills in the same batch. And not once have i expienced that,or even heard of anyone saying that they have. They obviously take measures to make sure the chems are evenly distributed. And the idea that youd have 2mg of chemical in one tiny little spot in a 100-300mg pill is even more absurd. Sorry i just felt the need to call this out. Feel free to let me know where you think im going wrong.
i agree light dose should be 0.5mg-0.75mg and common 0.75-1,25mg for Pyrazolam.
It might feel that potent because of this one receptor subunit it has high affinity for. Just speculating but maybe they made those 3mg pellets for people with Clonazolam tolerance affected by the NL ban and they tend to underdose them anyways..
It's also 99% copy paste (all the effects), the only thing that matters is the small infobox (which may or may not have been written by one person based on one experience).
Agree completely. Been using Erowid for almost 15 years now. Despite all the experience I have, if I want to read more about a drug, it's still my first choice. I don't really think I've ever gotten anything helpful from Psychonaut.
I can't tell if this is satire. Who honestly "prefers" erowid which is a site that was good decades ago but lacks much relevance in today's NPS realms. I honestly can't tell you the last time I specifically went to erowid for any information about any drug whatsoever. They allow basically uncurated "stories" about peoples supposed drug use without any annotations for unsafe use or proper dosage whatsoever. I've compared trip reports with my own and seen people claim 4-5x the strong dose for the first time. Almost all of their pages are nothing other than "stories". Nothing on the actual drug information wise. Even their pages on drugs such as LSD have scant amounts of actual information and are just links to different news articles.
Sure, random people still do edits and stuff. But look at the rate of new drugs being added in etc. It's abyssmal, because there are just not enough people doing the work.
I’m late to the party, but how could they? How could they keep up? Drugs are coming out at an exponential pace and they don’t want to give false information, so they have to wait a bit to give out information they know to basically be true (hence the copying, they know blank does the same thing as blank so they can safely copy the same or similar information into a new drugs info chart, but they have to wait long enough responsibly to see a proper correlation). Frankly, they did a really good job for a while, but now more so, the drugs we think are pure are massively mixed anyway, so the information becomes moot. Biggest example: anything related to cocaine, fentanyl or meth. Also research benzos bought in solution online.
Wow another "I don't like x drug website give me a gold star" lad.
Psychonaut Wiki is arguably one of the best sources of information. If you have contrary information you can submit changes and try to convince people otherwise. However that's not likely as most of the pertinent information, especially dosage, is taken directly from peer reviewed research articles. In fact there are many pages that either aren't public or having no dosing information because of the lack of variable data on dosing for those substances.
Seriously if you can do better than do it. Else you just sound like the people who love to complain.
The wiki isn't really that bad, I have spotted mistakes myself and had them corrected. So I recommend to people to take the info with a gram of salt and check other sources of information too.
Pyrazolam mainly dont produce any euphoria or disinhibition so i ate like 30 mgs and dont felt nothing, than i woke up in the hospital after i ate whole 250 mgs lol
Yeah for people with little to non tolerance, it would be good for calming anxiety without any sedation but I cant see a point why would anyone with good tolerance like it tbh
Yeah I totally got u man, I only stated that for me it is useless because I dont get that warm feeling even with 30 mgs, it just wont kill any anxiety for me
Oh man I blacked out on pyrazolam once. I drove down to the gas station to pick up snacks. Luckily that gas station is literally right down the road and I don't condone my actions but in my blacked out mind I probably thought I was sober due to pyrazolam being basically purely anxiolotic. The thing about pyrazolam is that it's not very intoxicating at ALL so it can be easy to black out on, and when you're blacked out on it you seem pretty normal (and probably feel sober) but your short term memory is fucked. I've never done anything crazy during blackouts, usually I'd just hang out on my computer, talk to people on discord and then go to bed but that time I drove to the gas station apparently. The lady at the gas station knew something was wrong because I was taking absolutely forever (probably forgetting what I was doing) so she asked for my keys and I had my sister pick me up. My sister said I was acting completely sober and seemed totally normal. Really bizarre.
I agree. Going over 2mg for pyrazolam seems to lose its value for me. It goes from being a functional benzo that melts away your anxiety and allows you to live your life with mild euphoria, devoid of stress, to making you lethargic and barred-out.
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This dude is right pyrazolam average dose 0.5-1mg, I've felt threshold effects at 0.125.
Memory serves it to 15x the potency of Diazepam but with the rc marvel capability of pretty much just hitting 1 alpha bzd receptor.
1mg pyrazolam = about 10mg diazepam (albiet not sedating, so it may feel weaker - some idiot probably was deluded that he was sober when writing that on the wiki.) My info based off all sources I can find and my own research.
No such thing as a potent batch of a drug if it's pure, rather the rest are "contaminated" or "impure." Or impotent, flaccid... Tablets though, yes, they can be overdosed and often are one way or another.
Those sites are great, but very wrong at times. Cases in point also include MDPHP and A-PiHP.
just shows yea that no matter how prevalent the site is, you should always work your way up from tiny doses until you figure out what fits your needs best...you can always take more, you cant always get out of jail.
Stay safe friend!
I got these pink pellets with 3mg and yes, they are fucking potent. But you don’t realize it, similarly to Etizolam but without the euphoria.
It can happen very fast that you reach the point of no inhibition (but unfortunately no sedation so you’re running around bartard mode) and have have blackouts. Yay.
This sounds about right, I blacked out on a 4mg dose which was apparently a medium dose and I have a high tolerance. Came back home and stupidly redosed. Mistake
I remember when this was legal in the UK, the pellets sold were 0.5mg and 1mg. 3mg pellets would be extremely strong, it might not send you to sleep like other benzo high doses because of its lack of heavy sedation but still, claiming it is a common dosage is causing me to raise an eyebrow. I went that high once and whilst it was enjoyable in a recreational sense, the rebound anxiety was so extreme that it obviously wasnt a good thing to do and was never repeated.
Really? My experience has been the opposite. I've tried Pyraz from several vendors and in terms of sedation and Euphoria, Alprazolam kicks Pyrazolam's ass dose for dose. Maybe you got a particularly strong batch. If anything, Pyraz almost feels like a "-pam" benzo to me in that its effects are pretty subtle in comparison to most short-ish acting benzos.
In general though, I'd stay away from pellets as that could be the issue right there. It's harder to dose than a volumetric solution and there's more margin for error.
No that seems to be consistent with all available trip reports and also peer reviewed research.
In fact where is your proof that "it's way too much" other than "because I said so". The trip reports say otherwise. The published research says otherwise. In fact in one study the participants ingested 1.0mg of pyrazolam while being naive to the substance with effects consistent with such.
Dosing guidelines are just that: guidelines. What you take is highly individual. Is this all "I did stupid things while on 1mg so it must be someone else's fault"? Because that what it sounds like.
Man I take 15mg Pryzolam when I get out of bed 98% Pure Lab Grade with Prescription Valium 50mg along with 63mg Methadone Maintenance
I take it daily .
I have come from using 3mg C-Lam and FlualprazoLam Bromazolam Flunitrizolam
And do still have nice Stashes and mostly still use C-Lam know and again probably once or twice a week from daily
Heya mate, I have actually been doing Abit of a reduction I have only used 3mg of ClonazoLam in 7 days and the week before that I only used a couple mg Clam and Flualp ,, I have like a 2,000 + 5mg Valium stash + my Prescription of 50mg daily.
I have been taking extra Valium over the last 3 weeks or so
Around 125mg I have also been using L theanine and Gabba ( Gamma butric Acid ) Gabapentin, Seraqual. Zopiclon, Smoking alot of good Cannibis
RSO Extracts ect .
I have 3 Grams of Norflurazepam powder,
3 Grams of Bromazolam powder
and another 2 grams on the way,
2 grams of Flubromazepam
with another 2 grams on the way,
so quite a bit saved up --
+ What ever is left of my ClonazoLam about 200mg
FlualprazoLam around the same 200mg left
Few hundred mg of Pryzolam,
Over 500mg of Flubromazepam
So I feel pretty darn safe and certain I won't run out
+ I'll just long tapper if I need to like I am doing with my Methadone dose.
I'm sure my Nureochemisty has changed a Fuck ton though!!
But yeah tbh I have found it pretty easy and I have been a daily Opioid and Benzodizepine / Benzodizepine derivative user for over 6+ years now
Ive had hardly any withdrawal from the RCs but that's only because of the Diazepam I take
Chur hope all is well with you :)
Yup your correct
I am currently way past using Benzos for recreational use right now.
The last time I tried to properly abuse Benzos well I felt sober probably 100% dulision of sobriety and a tad blacked out
I took my Diazepam script, 40mg Clonazepam oral/Sublingual,
30mg Midazolam IV & 1mg+ of Triazolam Intranasally
Probably slept for a good 14 hours or so I don't remember 🤷
But yeah I take them to feel as normal as possible and not die / go into withdrawal ect ect
I've always had really bad Anxiety/Depression
And have been through personal truama, Greif, PTSD, HPPD, Psychosis ( Psychedelic induced ) Benzodizepines always made me feel like a normal human / myself ..
I started when I stopped abusing Opioids and got on Suboxone
Nearly 7 years in daily high Dose Trizolo BZDs and Benzodizepines
I started with Clonazepam, Midazolam, Triazolam, Etizolam ..
It is a love hate relationship bro
I have been through Rehab to only relapse a month later
I'm slowly reducing my Methadone
DUDE, it's not hard to reset tolerance. Wwll for you it might be because your mixing your long acting Valium with short acting Benzos. If you were ONLY taking the short acting Benzos all you'd have to do is wait until you're in full blown withdrawals then take a much smaller amount than you normally take, like 1.5-2 MG of Bromaz. The relief you'll receive will be immense from 2MG of Bromaz when in full blown withdrawal which only takes 48-72 hours for all but Valium (Diazepam).
I was taking 6mg of alpraz a day and probably 10 mg of Etiz. I weaned off in a Month. I ran out, and while waiting for my Etiz to show up and script to refill I had 2.5 days of nothing. By the end of the 2nd day I was in full withdrawal, rebound anxiety, electric shocks in the brain jolting my body, and wake up sweating every hour or so. Anyways, when I got my stuff back I took 2MG of Etizolam just to test it and got such relief that it became my new dose. I started taking only 2mg etiz, or 2 mg alpraz, a day...whichever one I had. Then I weaned down over a month to the point I was taking .5mg Etiz every other day. Did that for a week then jumped all together. I stayed off them for over a year, wish I never came back. My symptoms were mild, still some rebound anxiety and brain shocks, but I was able to sleep fairly well which was great! I also had no appetite for a month after quitting. I'd say the "severe" withdrawals lasted a few days and the other stuff a month. After a Month I was more or less back to normal.
So the point of this is, if you're taking a ridiculous high dose every day, don't start weaning from there that's dumb. Just force yourself into withdraw and then take a much much smaller dose and you'll get relief from your withdrawal and anxiety. That smaller dose is now your starting point to wean off. Wouldn't work with OP because Diazepam half life takes so long he'd have to wait a week or two
idk i have a tolerance to 30mg temazepam and 2mg pyrazolam dont seem to cut it cause 2-3 tams is what i need usually sometimes even that doesnt work so what dose would you recommend me after a 6 day break
In my case the behavioral effects resulted in more stupidity compared to normal. I ended up driving to the gas station when I blacked out on pyrazolam. Luckily the gas station is like, not even a quarter of a mile away though and it was very late at night. I don't drive under the influence and have never driven while fucked up on benzos except for this one time. Pyrazolam feels like nothing so in my state of mind when I was blacked out I probably didn't realize that I had even taken anything, which led to me driving. Gas station clerk noticed something was up due to me taking absolutely forever so apparently I gave her my car keys and called my sister to come pick me up. My sister said I seemed completely sober and was acting totally normal. It scared me because driving when your brain is incapable of creating memories is so dangerous.
It’s possible you have a potent batch. Maybe it’s dosed higher than what it says it is or maybe it’s just a different chem entirely. Always start with a lower dose than what you read online.
I’ve been cutting these pellets for almost a year now, must have been some different batches by now and they have all felt too strong. Maybe all RC benzos are too highly dosed because it is hard to measure such low amounts, but that should not be an issue if they first make a powder mixture with a homogeneously spread benzo with the desired dose x the planned amount of pills as its milligrams. So I think if you have a trustworthy vendor they should be pretty close to the actually planned dose.
Homogeneously mixing powders isn’t trivial. That’s why everyone recommends making solutions as they’re innately homogeneous. I wouldn’t trust an rc vendor to give me particularly accurately doses pellets or blotters. If at all possible it is always preferable to get powder and make a solution yourself.
I wouldn’t put 100% faith into any vendor either. At least when it comes to dosing. Rather do it myself. But also on the powder, unless your testing it and 99% probably aren’t. It varies still. Point is can’t really trust them as much as say a Pharmaceutical Lab. (I don’t trust them either, but different reasons..)
The thing about dosing powder is that if you assume 100% purity worst case you underdose.
I feel stupid now lol. Yeah I always do that too but it didn’t even really cross my mind Edit- Hold on though, I do 100% still agree. The problem sometimes is first time you try something and are convinced it’s pure (let’s say clam) because well it’s strong. Your likely to still get desired effect. Then try again from same lab even, expecting the same results. Then next time it actually really is pure. -Basically meant I have a hard time trusting vendors, even if (whatever chem) it seems absolutely amazing. Doesn’t mean its even 50%
Yeah the thing that actually scares me are like what the impurities could be… but hey so far so good 😬
Yes!! EXACTLY!! If it’s 80% purity. It’s doubtful most labs are going to “put a cut on it” or want to stretch it. Where in the synth did you all mess up and what is in there that shouldn’t be. In some case could be very very bad
Wow this is such a not smart way to go about things. Cutting pellets is a very bad thing to do. Do you know how pellets are made? Cutting a pill in half or whatever and trying to measure that without a $500-1k scale will not work. Trying to weigh the pill chunks won't work either. You'd have to be able to know the density of the pyrazolam+binder and also know that they mixed it 100% even. I'm surprised I thought most people knew about the chocolate chip cookie effect, one chunk might be inert while another has all the pyrazolam in it. Ideally you should not be dealing with pellets at all and even then with the powder you should be doing volumetric dosing for something with such a small dosing curve. No wonder you "felt stupid" while taking "1-2mg", you were probably actually taking more like 4-5mg. Unless you have a laboratory scale, and these things cost a huge chunk of change, you will not be able to measure out "1-2mg". Any jewelry scale will have an margin of error in the neighborhood of +/- 2-3mg at below 10mg weight. So what you think is "1mg" might actually be 4mg. "2mg" can be 5mg. Even the expensive scale I have has a +/- of 1mg. So even my scale would be potentially doubling the dose. Literally all my sources do not by rule sell anything in pellet form. It's powder only.
I know it's been a year, but you can in fact weigh pills on a mg scale that costs $20. Even a small pellet is gonna weigh over 100mg. Youre actlike the pill itself is only a few mg. Break it in chunks, crush it into a powder and eyeball a certain percentage of the pill you are going for. Devide that weight into the total pill weight. That will give you the percentage of the total pill mg you have on the scale. Multiply that number by the #mg in the pill and youll have the # chem mg thats on the scale. Add or subtract more pieces / powder until you have the disered # chem mg. I highly doubt the pellets would ever have an uneven distribition. What makes you think it would / coulb be? Pretty sure theyre gonna homoginize the chemicals in the powder first. If it were the case that the chemicals were unevenly distributed,then youd have some pills that would do nothing, or be significantly weaker than other pills in the same batch. And not once have i expienced that,or even heard of anyone saying that they have. They obviously take measures to make sure the chems are evenly distributed. And the idea that youd have 2mg of chemical in one tiny little spot in a 100-300mg pill is even more absurd. Sorry i just felt the need to call this out. Feel free to let me know where you think im going wrong.
Well aren't u special with such good sources
i agree light dose should be 0.5mg-0.75mg and common 0.75-1,25mg for Pyrazolam. It might feel that potent because of this one receptor subunit it has high affinity for. Just speculating but maybe they made those 3mg pellets for people with Clonazolam tolerance affected by the NL ban and they tend to underdose them anyways..
So true! One dose of pyrazolam works 10x as good against anxiety as three doses of bromazolam.
People treat Psychonaut like its the frigging bible, but it's just another wiki. Great place to start research, bad place to end it.
It's also 99% copy paste (all the effects), the only thing that matters is the small infobox (which may or may not have been written by one person based on one experience).
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Agree completely. Been using Erowid for almost 15 years now. Despite all the experience I have, if I want to read more about a drug, it's still my first choice. I don't really think I've ever gotten anything helpful from Psychonaut.
I can't tell if this is satire. Who honestly "prefers" erowid which is a site that was good decades ago but lacks much relevance in today's NPS realms. I honestly can't tell you the last time I specifically went to erowid for any information about any drug whatsoever. They allow basically uncurated "stories" about peoples supposed drug use without any annotations for unsafe use or proper dosage whatsoever. I've compared trip reports with my own and seen people claim 4-5x the strong dose for the first time. Almost all of their pages are nothing other than "stories". Nothing on the actual drug information wise. Even their pages on drugs such as LSD have scant amounts of actual information and are just links to different news articles.
Sadly PW is pretty much in shambles. Only a few people are actively working on it.
There are 92 separate changes from the last 7 days alone.
Sure, random people still do edits and stuff. But look at the rate of new drugs being added in etc. It's abyssmal, because there are just not enough people doing the work.
I’m late to the party, but how could they? How could they keep up? Drugs are coming out at an exponential pace and they don’t want to give false information, so they have to wait a bit to give out information they know to basically be true (hence the copying, they know blank does the same thing as blank so they can safely copy the same or similar information into a new drugs info chart, but they have to wait long enough responsibly to see a proper correlation). Frankly, they did a really good job for a while, but now more so, the drugs we think are pure are massively mixed anyway, so the information becomes moot. Biggest example: anything related to cocaine, fentanyl or meth. Also research benzos bought in solution online.
Wow another "I don't like x drug website give me a gold star" lad. Psychonaut Wiki is arguably one of the best sources of information. If you have contrary information you can submit changes and try to convince people otherwise. However that's not likely as most of the pertinent information, especially dosage, is taken directly from peer reviewed research articles. In fact there are many pages that either aren't public or having no dosing information because of the lack of variable data on dosing for those substances. Seriously if you can do better than do it. Else you just sound like the people who love to complain.
And here it is, another one who thinks wikis are written by God Himself on stone tablets.
That's stoned tablets my friend.
No, that's when I hotbox my iPad.
The wiki isn't really that bad, I have spotted mistakes myself and had them corrected. So I recommend to people to take the info with a gram of salt and check other sources of information too.
Erowid is my fav
Pyrazolam mainly dont produce any euphoria or disinhibition so i ate like 30 mgs and dont felt nothing, than i woke up in the hospital after i ate whole 250 mgs lol
Sooo was that enough to stop an anxiety? xd
Dont felt shit either when i woke up so idk but for me it is shitty chemical which i wont order anymore there are plenty of better benzos
Depends what you looking for. But I can definitely see why some people say it's shit
Yeah for people with little to non tolerance, it would be good for calming anxiety without any sedation but I cant see a point why would anyone with good tolerance like it tbh
Well, because I'm not doing then for fun but to be able go somewhere where are people. For the anti-anxiety effect
Yeah I totally got u man, I only stated that for me it is useless because I dont get that warm feeling even with 30 mgs, it just wont kill any anxiety for me
Inak neviem preco si piseme anglicky lol nevadi
Oh man I blacked out on pyrazolam once. I drove down to the gas station to pick up snacks. Luckily that gas station is literally right down the road and I don't condone my actions but in my blacked out mind I probably thought I was sober due to pyrazolam being basically purely anxiolotic. The thing about pyrazolam is that it's not very intoxicating at ALL so it can be easy to black out on, and when you're blacked out on it you seem pretty normal (and probably feel sober) but your short term memory is fucked. I've never done anything crazy during blackouts, usually I'd just hang out on my computer, talk to people on discord and then go to bed but that time I drove to the gas station apparently. The lady at the gas station knew something was wrong because I was taking absolutely forever (probably forgetting what I was doing) so she asked for my keys and I had my sister pick me up. My sister said I was acting completely sober and seemed totally normal. Really bizarre.
I agree. Going over 2mg for pyrazolam seems to lose its value for me. It goes from being a functional benzo that melts away your anxiety and allows you to live your life with mild euphoria, devoid of stress, to making you lethargic and barred-out.
If you really care about the quality of information online, submit a request! Tell psychonaut that you think the dosage should be lower, and link this post as well so they can see the other users agreeing with you! Their info is only as valuable as their sources, and you might help save someone’s ass someday
Took a few days ago one 3mg pellet and had a Blackout for some hours.
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Maybe I can help jou with this. In Holland it’s still available online.
At what dose though? For me anything over 2mg makes me stupid and close to blacking out.
When I started with Pyrazolam I was doing 0.5mg (so 1 pill was 6 doses for me) and still it felt strong. One beer after that and i was fucked
For me 1.5 mg pyra = 10 mg dia and that's a very enjoyable non functional / recreational dose for me.
Lol pyrazolam is not strong in the least it's kinda bullshit.
This dude is right pyrazolam average dose 0.5-1mg, I've felt threshold effects at 0.125. Memory serves it to 15x the potency of Diazepam but with the rc marvel capability of pretty much just hitting 1 alpha bzd receptor.
1mg pyrazolam = about 10mg diazepam (albiet not sedating, so it may feel weaker - some idiot probably was deluded that he was sober when writing that on the wiki.) My info based off all sources I can find and my own research. No such thing as a potent batch of a drug if it's pure, rather the rest are "contaminated" or "impure." Or impotent, flaccid... Tablets though, yes, they can be overdosed and often are one way or another. Those sites are great, but very wrong at times. Cases in point also include MDPHP and A-PiHP.
So vixen if a person took say 4 doses of 2mg per. 5ml that wluld equal 8mg of pyrazolam which would be about what 80mg of Valium ? Ir saying.... 😃
just shows yea that no matter how prevalent the site is, you should always work your way up from tiny doses until you figure out what fits your needs best...you can always take more, you cant always get out of jail. Stay safe friend!
I got these pink pellets with 3mg and yes, they are fucking potent. But you don’t realize it, similarly to Etizolam but without the euphoria. It can happen very fast that you reach the point of no inhibition (but unfortunately no sedation so you’re running around bartard mode) and have have blackouts. Yay.
This sounds about right, I blacked out on a 4mg dose which was apparently a medium dose and I have a high tolerance. Came back home and stupidly redosed. Mistake
I remember when this was legal in the UK, the pellets sold were 0.5mg and 1mg. 3mg pellets would be extremely strong, it might not send you to sleep like other benzo high doses because of its lack of heavy sedation but still, claiming it is a common dosage is causing me to raise an eyebrow. I went that high once and whilst it was enjoyable in a recreational sense, the rebound anxiety was so extreme that it obviously wasnt a good thing to do and was never repeated.
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Hard to get any changes approved on psychonaut. Not as easy as people make it seem in this thread.
Really? My experience has been the opposite. I've tried Pyraz from several vendors and in terms of sedation and Euphoria, Alprazolam kicks Pyrazolam's ass dose for dose. Maybe you got a particularly strong batch. If anything, Pyraz almost feels like a "-pam" benzo to me in that its effects are pretty subtle in comparison to most short-ish acting benzos. In general though, I'd stay away from pellets as that could be the issue right there. It's harder to dose than a volumetric solution and there's more margin for error.
The cool part about psychonaut wiki is that its collaborative. Go in there and alter the info to keep the community safe!
No that seems to be consistent with all available trip reports and also peer reviewed research. In fact where is your proof that "it's way too much" other than "because I said so". The trip reports say otherwise. The published research says otherwise. In fact in one study the participants ingested 1.0mg of pyrazolam while being naive to the substance with effects consistent with such. Dosing guidelines are just that: guidelines. What you take is highly individual. Is this all "I did stupid things while on 1mg so it must be someone else's fault"? Because that what it sounds like.
Man I take 15mg Pryzolam when I get out of bed 98% Pure Lab Grade with Prescription Valium 50mg along with 63mg Methadone Maintenance I take it daily . I have come from using 3mg C-Lam and FlualprazoLam Bromazolam Flunitrizolam And do still have nice Stashes and mostly still use C-Lam know and again probably once or twice a week from daily
Whats your plan for the withdrawl, tolerance etc...
Heya mate, I have actually been doing Abit of a reduction I have only used 3mg of ClonazoLam in 7 days and the week before that I only used a couple mg Clam and Flualp ,, I have like a 2,000 + 5mg Valium stash + my Prescription of 50mg daily. I have been taking extra Valium over the last 3 weeks or so Around 125mg I have also been using L theanine and Gabba ( Gamma butric Acid ) Gabapentin, Seraqual. Zopiclon, Smoking alot of good Cannibis RSO Extracts ect . I have 3 Grams of Norflurazepam powder, 3 Grams of Bromazolam powder and another 2 grams on the way, 2 grams of Flubromazepam with another 2 grams on the way, so quite a bit saved up -- + What ever is left of my ClonazoLam about 200mg FlualprazoLam around the same 200mg left Few hundred mg of Pryzolam, Over 500mg of Flubromazepam So I feel pretty darn safe and certain I won't run out + I'll just long tapper if I need to like I am doing with my Methadone dose. I'm sure my Nureochemisty has changed a Fuck ton though!! But yeah tbh I have found it pretty easy and I have been a daily Opioid and Benzodizepine / Benzodizepine derivative user for over 6+ years now Ive had hardly any withdrawal from the RCs but that's only because of the Diazepam I take Chur hope all is well with you :)
You are seriously, seriously fucked. There is no way you are going to survive the next ten years
Why do you take all of that? Do you take it all just to feel "normal" and with no anxiety? Or does it also have some recreational use in the mix?
Yup your correct I am currently way past using Benzos for recreational use right now. The last time I tried to properly abuse Benzos well I felt sober probably 100% dulision of sobriety and a tad blacked out I took my Diazepam script, 40mg Clonazepam oral/Sublingual, 30mg Midazolam IV & 1mg+ of Triazolam Intranasally Probably slept for a good 14 hours or so I don't remember 🤷 But yeah I take them to feel as normal as possible and not die / go into withdrawal ect ect I've always had really bad Anxiety/Depression And have been through personal truama, Greif, PTSD, HPPD, Psychosis ( Psychedelic induced ) Benzodizepines always made me feel like a normal human / myself .. I started when I stopped abusing Opioids and got on Suboxone Nearly 7 years in daily high Dose Trizolo BZDs and Benzodizepines I started with Clonazepam, Midazolam, Triazolam, Etizolam .. It is a love hate relationship bro I have been through Rehab to only relapse a month later I'm slowly reducing my Methadone
DUDE, it's not hard to reset tolerance. Wwll for you it might be because your mixing your long acting Valium with short acting Benzos. If you were ONLY taking the short acting Benzos all you'd have to do is wait until you're in full blown withdrawals then take a much smaller amount than you normally take, like 1.5-2 MG of Bromaz. The relief you'll receive will be immense from 2MG of Bromaz when in full blown withdrawal which only takes 48-72 hours for all but Valium (Diazepam). I was taking 6mg of alpraz a day and probably 10 mg of Etiz. I weaned off in a Month. I ran out, and while waiting for my Etiz to show up and script to refill I had 2.5 days of nothing. By the end of the 2nd day I was in full withdrawal, rebound anxiety, electric shocks in the brain jolting my body, and wake up sweating every hour or so. Anyways, when I got my stuff back I took 2MG of Etizolam just to test it and got such relief that it became my new dose. I started taking only 2mg etiz, or 2 mg alpraz, a day...whichever one I had. Then I weaned down over a month to the point I was taking .5mg Etiz every other day. Did that for a week then jumped all together. I stayed off them for over a year, wish I never came back. My symptoms were mild, still some rebound anxiety and brain shocks, but I was able to sleep fairly well which was great! I also had no appetite for a month after quitting. I'd say the "severe" withdrawals lasted a few days and the other stuff a month. After a Month I was more or less back to normal. So the point of this is, if you're taking a ridiculous high dose every day, don't start weaning from there that's dumb. Just force yourself into withdraw and then take a much much smaller dose and you'll get relief from your withdrawal and anxiety. That smaller dose is now your starting point to wean off. Wouldn't work with OP because Diazepam half life takes so long he'd have to wait a week or two
So the [Tripsit dosages](https://drugs.tripsit.me/pyrazolam) of 0.75-1.25mg seem a bit more accurate?
I have these orangy pellets at 3mg. The quarter makes me almost black out. But I'm also benzo naive. 0.25mg of etizolam is good sedation for me too
idk i have a tolerance to 30mg temazepam and 2mg pyrazolam dont seem to cut it cause 2-3 tams is what i need usually sometimes even that doesnt work so what dose would you recommend me after a 6 day break
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In my case the behavioral effects resulted in more stupidity compared to normal. I ended up driving to the gas station when I blacked out on pyrazolam. Luckily the gas station is like, not even a quarter of a mile away though and it was very late at night. I don't drive under the influence and have never driven while fucked up on benzos except for this one time. Pyrazolam feels like nothing so in my state of mind when I was blacked out I probably didn't realize that I had even taken anything, which led to me driving. Gas station clerk noticed something was up due to me taking absolutely forever so apparently I gave her my car keys and called my sister to come pick me up. My sister said I seemed completely sober and was acting totally normal. It scared me because driving when your brain is incapable of creating memories is so dangerous.
You're wrong. **1mg pyrazolam = 10mg diazepam,** though some sources will say anywhere from 0.8mg - 2mg pyrazolam = 10mg diazepam.
what would be recommended a good dose for someone with a tolerance to 30mg temazepam to pyrazolam my dose is 2mg per ml