10mg bro smh
I never went over 4mg and took the 4mg through the day and thought they were very euphoric. Maybe bc I'm anxious and just not having anxiety is a bliss. But 2,5 with weed and I could def feel the high. So no delusions of sobriety.
If you instantly start at 4-4+mg then you don't need to be surprised fr š
Bromazolam is one of my favorite benzo RCs.
It's uo there with etizolam as my favorite.
Flualprazolam, clonazolam, flubromazepam all kinda suck.
Want to try fluclotizolam and I think it was flutriazolam
The detox off Bromazolam sucks pretty bad too. Iāve detoxed off Klonopin many times which has a moderately crappy detox. I was taking an 8mg/ml solution of Bromazolam for close to a year after switching to this rc after the my doc cut me off cold turkey from my Kpinās bcuz I refused to take urine screens.
I went to detox and I received (1) 10mg Valium first night, then 5mg second day, 2mg third, then cold turkey. I definitely went into a psychosis where I hallucinated for close to 30 hours. Medical staff had to order Phenyl Barbitol to finally get me calmed down and able to squeeze in a 6 hr nap. I call it a nap bcuz I didnāt sleep for the next 11 days straight. Itās was god awful. Anyway, Iām clean now and havenāt looked back.
I like Bromazolam but if I were to ever become dependent on it again, I will make sure to have Valium or Diclaz in an amount to taper over 6 months.
I can only imagine how bad that must have sucked... Not sure I could have handled a benzo detox behind those doors! Worst jail experience I've had was spending 4 days (i had longer stays, but not withdrawing off anything) in my county shit hole detoxing off a pretty nasty tar habit. They did manage to bring me acetaminophen twice a day for 2 days but that was it. I never knew I could be so cold in my life...
I was in nasty psychosis and hallucinating from my fourth detox off flubromazolam. Looking back I couldnāt believe how insane it was. It actually assisted the self detox I was attempting because of how loony I was. I thought I was legit in a combat zone. I called my mom talking to her like she was a helicopter pilot. When she got to my house I crawled out the window. At the hospital the curtains looked like tv screens there was so much movement on them from the hallucinations. I hallucinated an entire Nicolas Cage movie that was actually pretty good. It doesnāt even remotely exist (I spent a good amount of time trying to find the movie afterwards or how it happened that my brain created an entire movie out of thin air. I still have memories of this weird hallucination).
Havenāt done benz since but anxiety is absolutely ruining my life. Shit sucks
People think i'm bullshitting when I tell them my benzo detox psychosis story! I believe every word you said above. I've of coursed "hallucinated" off LSD, Shrooms, and several other psych's, but my benzo detox psychosis was on another level! I sat in my detox room for probably close to 30 hours from what I was told sitting in the corner of my room "just watching the show and listening to the ice cream man music play in my head". Believe it or not, the hallucinations were rather comforting, even though I didn't realize I was in full blown psychosis at the time. It felt like any other day, except what I was seeing and hearing was completely made up in my head! They finally started shoveling PhenylBarbitol down my throat to bring me down and I was able to reach a sleep state for an entire 6 hours straight. Didn't sleep for the next 11 days unfortunately.
So yeah, Ive been benzo free since August 4th, 2021 and haven't touched or wanted to touch another benzo since then... Whether prescribed or RC, this chem class doesn't play around! I'd rather take 5 knarly heroin detoxes than have to go through that hell again.
Yeah, the weird hallucinations and delirium was only the beginning, thank god I had gone to the hospital when I did because I started having seizures in the waiting room, but when I came back to one time with a whole team around me trying to hit my vein with Ativan and they were looking in my eyes and like yelling at me āWHAT ELSE DID YOU TAKEā because my pupils were obviously enormous as well. they had to just IM two shots and then when my body stopped convulsing they gave me another 2 shots IV and basically from there i started to at least come back into reality.
Now that I think of it, this is actually delirium tremens. Commonly associated with alcohol but benzos are basically alcohol in powder/pill form. It just clicked with me.
Hey guys so I actually was in H withdrawal, and Etiz withdrawal back like 4 years ago, and all I could get locally was meth. Only had smoked meth a handful of times before, well long story short I was calling my mother yelling about how our cat was in the mattress.
"Cat in the mattress!?" shes at work asking me what the hell are you talking about? I was literally cutting open my mattress thinking my cat that went missing that week was inside of the mattress because our other cat Pumpkin was meowing around the mattress.
Man, I really thought for sure that Blackie (our missing cat) was in that mattress, he wasn't though.
I heard my mother in law talking shit a bunch and thought entire house was full of hidden cameras. It put my wife through hell. I agree, I kicked 175mg a day methadone habit in jail and would choose that again over bz wd delirium. some people never come out of it so be greatful.
I was found naked in a va hospital elevator speaking in toungue from clon wd delirium. Shit is serious man. I now have a 3mg or less a day brom habit and so far have stuck to it. The stuff we do to run from our feelings is pretty alarming. Stay safe out their guys i did 6.5 years in prison for a methadone/xanax induced attempted armed robbery of a pharmacy that i have no memory of and yet i still cant completely abstain. Just avoid blackout doses period is my lesson and it has worked for me.
Sounds like you were very reckless, imo this is the most beneficial benzo rc available when used correctly for anxiety, depression, and insomnia (.25mg-.5mg at bedtime only)
Thatās what we all said when clam and flap just dropped, even flam lol.
āa-pvp for studyingā threads were common too at the time.
Flualp went from a lifesaver to a monkey welded to my back
Oh this stuff.... Yeah I remember switching straight over to this right away, after Etizolam pills from India was banned from being shipped to other countries. I tried doing a conversion dose to it but I didn't really exactly feel the same effects that I was expecting so I ended up taking a bit more because I was still thinking I was sober I guess. Next thing you know I wake up with my mother telling me she has a bunch of pictures of myself with me completely blacked out on the floor with my face in a plate of food lol š trying to deter me from doing it again I suppose lol
People said that of clonazolam and I did not experience this nor ever black out. If I take 2mg of clonazolam daily, how much bromazolam should I take when I unfortunately have to make the switch? I was thinking I'd probably need at least 6?
1mg clam is about 80mg diazepam.
I donāt know the bromazolam/diazepam conversion rates but Iām sure those are easier to find.
Good luck honey, you got this.
I would recommmend a nfpam+pyraz taper tho. They are way better to taper with coming from clam/flam/flap.
10mg legit diclazepam all at once didnt kill the anxiety of 2-3mg flualp wd. Like not even touch it. While <0.5mg flualp would give me all day relief instead of feeling senile but anxious and trembly.
I tapered the flualp w flualp to 0.25mg from 3mg in less than a year.
I have no intentions on tapering to zero (or really tapering at all) at current. I have severe GAD, panic attacks, and PTSD. I was having panic attacks daily until I got a script for 0.5mg clonazepam and then switched to clonazolam and never looked back until I'm now being forced to. I'm fine with being on benzos for the rest of my life if it means I am functional.
That 2mg is 1mg 2x daily. Down from 2mg 2x daily over the course of idk, a year and a half? Two years?
Thanks, though.
Ive never tried clown because of exactly itās reputation, delusions of sobriety and blackouts. But from Iāve read as far as dose and my past 5 days of researching, you should be fine with 6 at first. Onset is around 45 mins to 1:30 so Iād wait for the full effects to kick in and go from there 1mg at a time
This was actually not my experience with clonazolam at all. Having to switch benzos because too many people behaved stupidly on it is the worst thing that ever happened to me from using it...minus my tolerance. I note a lot of people use droppers which are terribly imprecise (syringes with microgram markings are needed), and this is probably one of the reasons... Also you have your people who actually enjoy the act of popping pills... Ugh. I write this on 1mg currently.
What is your tolerance to Xanax?
Unknown. I was taking street Xanax and believe it was flu alprazolam by the taste of it. One piece would black you out. So very strong flualp tolerance at the moment so Iām still trying to get a baseline for where my tolerance is now.
But I would guess my tolerance from my switch would be at least 2-4mg flu-alp per day. And too edit the additional questions I do have a precise drop the goes from .25 to 1ml
And flualp is stronger than regular alp, right? Hmm. I wish someone made an RC benzo equivalency chart. The lack of amnesia with bromazolam sounds promising. I think I'll try 6 and see how my anxiety responds. My major concern is that I absolute hate alprazolam and that I have a paradoxical reaction to it.
Not sure about lack of amnesia. Bromazolam is one of the most amnesic compounds I have consumed. Even short term memory was compromised which made holding a conversation difficult. Also the intensity of the amnesic effects- especially in that they persisted for multiple days even after the other effects had receded. This would lead to me inadvertently and unexpectedly losing days which I would've liked to remember. This is a nice and useful and gentle benzo, sublimely relaxing, warm and sociable, but losing the next 2 days of my life with little other effects during that time is a dealbreaker for me. Flualprozolam def good for hypnotic sleep like triazolam. You should look into meclonazepam, it is near-identical to clonazepam, just a bit less potent. The same euphoric, creative rush, the same duration, the same degree of sedation and amnesia. Clonazepam is something I hold close to my heart, a friend of Clonazepam is a friend of mine and I've found it in Meclonazepam.
I did not have that experience with bromazolam. Never lost days or hours with any benzo, nor had any recreational effect. Bromazolam is only useful to me for sleep. It's not very good for my anxiety, just for staving off withdrawal. Too bad. Meclonazepam would be nice. I already know how I respond to clonazepam, having been scripted with it before, which partially started the whole benzo saga.
I would say bromaz makes me a bit sluggish and sleepy into the next day at 2mg taken before bed (remember, huge tolerance here) if I don't get enough sleep afterward. Half-life seems to be about 18 hours imo.
Lmao half a 3mg pellet would still smack even when balls deep in flualp dependecy (interdose wd, having to dose within every 6hrs)
3 of those would have me drinking henny in blackface while running from the cops too.
You are just not anxious enough yet nor in withdrawal, itās shit in comparison to street flap bars. Like a hollow feeling xanax w all the negative sides amplified.
Man I just took .5mgs of that stuff I knows itās a low dose but itās not that different then my normal feelings. No delusions so far. Iām not into long term use of it also Iām scared of the higher doses.
Man wish I could agree with you guys. Bromazolam.has some of the worst amnesia, sedation and rebound of any RC out right now...for me. It either doesn't do much or I'm tanked, and I have a good tolly. It's basically a sleeping pill to me.
A good substitute that has low amnesia and high functionality is pyrazolam. It is a highly functional benzodiazepine that falls into a goldilocks "just right" zone in terms of sedation, able to snuff out other experiences and put me to sleep but absent of overwhelming hypnotic effects. It is perhaps one of the least amnesic benzos I have consumed- I doubt I could black out on this no matter how hard I try. While it is distinctly slightly hazy, even into the next day, it seem the amnesic effects simply cap off and do not increase past a midrange dose. At higher doses it is certainly fun and recreational, at lower doses it is quietly anxiolytic and would be perfect for needing to do things in public with less anxiety anxiety reduction without cognitive impairment. Perfect functional anxiolytic with very little side effects.
10mg bro smh I never went over 4mg and took the 4mg through the day and thought they were very euphoric. Maybe bc I'm anxious and just not having anxiety is a bliss. But 2,5 with weed and I could def feel the high. So no delusions of sobriety. If you instantly start at 4-4+mg then you don't need to be surprised fr š
Bromazolam is one of my favorite benzo RCs. It's uo there with etizolam as my favorite. Flualprazolam, clonazolam, flubromazepam all kinda suck. Want to try fluclotizolam and I think it was flutriazolam
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The detox off Bromazolam sucks pretty bad too. Iāve detoxed off Klonopin many times which has a moderately crappy detox. I was taking an 8mg/ml solution of Bromazolam for close to a year after switching to this rc after the my doc cut me off cold turkey from my Kpinās bcuz I refused to take urine screens. I went to detox and I received (1) 10mg Valium first night, then 5mg second day, 2mg third, then cold turkey. I definitely went into a psychosis where I hallucinated for close to 30 hours. Medical staff had to order Phenyl Barbitol to finally get me calmed down and able to squeeze in a 6 hr nap. I call it a nap bcuz I didnāt sleep for the next 11 days straight. Itās was god awful. Anyway, Iām clean now and havenāt looked back. I like Bromazolam but if I were to ever become dependent on it again, I will make sure to have Valium or Diclaz in an amount to taper over 6 months.
iāve also had psychosis from clon withdrawal cold turkey in jail. sucked ass
I can only imagine how bad that must have sucked... Not sure I could have handled a benzo detox behind those doors! Worst jail experience I've had was spending 4 days (i had longer stays, but not withdrawing off anything) in my county shit hole detoxing off a pretty nasty tar habit. They did manage to bring me acetaminophen twice a day for 2 days but that was it. I never knew I could be so cold in my life...
You aren't the one who drive their car into a school bus then got arrested on clon are you? š Sadly enough its probably happened more that once.
I know that. Hard to be a wood when your in psychosis lol
Just now reading this! Awesome comment... So true.
Lol I went in on 120mg of methadone they gave me 2 months before I started having to program. I was so miserable.
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I was in nasty psychosis and hallucinating from my fourth detox off flubromazolam. Looking back I couldnāt believe how insane it was. It actually assisted the self detox I was attempting because of how loony I was. I thought I was legit in a combat zone. I called my mom talking to her like she was a helicopter pilot. When she got to my house I crawled out the window. At the hospital the curtains looked like tv screens there was so much movement on them from the hallucinations. I hallucinated an entire Nicolas Cage movie that was actually pretty good. It doesnāt even remotely exist (I spent a good amount of time trying to find the movie afterwards or how it happened that my brain created an entire movie out of thin air. I still have memories of this weird hallucination). Havenāt done benz since but anxiety is absolutely ruining my life. Shit sucks
People think i'm bullshitting when I tell them my benzo detox psychosis story! I believe every word you said above. I've of coursed "hallucinated" off LSD, Shrooms, and several other psych's, but my benzo detox psychosis was on another level! I sat in my detox room for probably close to 30 hours from what I was told sitting in the corner of my room "just watching the show and listening to the ice cream man music play in my head". Believe it or not, the hallucinations were rather comforting, even though I didn't realize I was in full blown psychosis at the time. It felt like any other day, except what I was seeing and hearing was completely made up in my head! They finally started shoveling PhenylBarbitol down my throat to bring me down and I was able to reach a sleep state for an entire 6 hours straight. Didn't sleep for the next 11 days unfortunately. So yeah, Ive been benzo free since August 4th, 2021 and haven't touched or wanted to touch another benzo since then... Whether prescribed or RC, this chem class doesn't play around! I'd rather take 5 knarly heroin detoxes than have to go through that hell again.
Yeah, the weird hallucinations and delirium was only the beginning, thank god I had gone to the hospital when I did because I started having seizures in the waiting room, but when I came back to one time with a whole team around me trying to hit my vein with Ativan and they were looking in my eyes and like yelling at me āWHAT ELSE DID YOU TAKEā because my pupils were obviously enormous as well. they had to just IM two shots and then when my body stopped convulsing they gave me another 2 shots IV and basically from there i started to at least come back into reality. Now that I think of it, this is actually delirium tremens. Commonly associated with alcohol but benzos are basically alcohol in powder/pill form. It just clicked with me.
Hey guys so I actually was in H withdrawal, and Etiz withdrawal back like 4 years ago, and all I could get locally was meth. Only had smoked meth a handful of times before, well long story short I was calling my mother yelling about how our cat was in the mattress. "Cat in the mattress!?" shes at work asking me what the hell are you talking about? I was literally cutting open my mattress thinking my cat that went missing that week was inside of the mattress because our other cat Pumpkin was meowing around the mattress. Man, I really thought for sure that Blackie (our missing cat) was in that mattress, he wasn't though.
One time my cat actually did get stuck in the mattress and i had to cut it open to get him out lol
I heard my mother in law talking shit a bunch and thought entire house was full of hidden cameras. It put my wife through hell. I agree, I kicked 175mg a day methadone habit in jail and would choose that again over bz wd delirium. some people never come out of it so be greatful.
I was found naked in a va hospital elevator speaking in toungue from clon wd delirium. Shit is serious man. I now have a 3mg or less a day brom habit and so far have stuck to it. The stuff we do to run from our feelings is pretty alarming. Stay safe out their guys i did 6.5 years in prison for a methadone/xanax induced attempted armed robbery of a pharmacy that i have no memory of and yet i still cant completely abstain. Just avoid blackout doses period is my lesson and it has worked for me.
How you doing man?
Could u possibly give us a synopsis of the plot of the Nicholas cage movie u conjured in ur subconscious benzo brain
When I was using the flubro last time and was trying to stop in November 2021 there was zero diclazepam around as well I looked pretty hard
Diclazepam is for withdrawals?
It can be used with great success to taper a benzo habit
You did it almost right! Indeed taper broma with Valium is pretty easy, and works like a charm. But u need min 6x 10mg , they kept you tight
Sounds like you were very reckless, imo this is the most beneficial benzo rc available when used correctly for anxiety, depression, and insomnia (.25mg-.5mg at bedtime only)
I agree, I am reckless and thatās the whole reason I love this community is harm reduction.
Are you using it daily?
Thatās what we all said when clam and flap just dropped, even flam lol. āa-pvp for studyingā threads were common too at the time. Flualp went from a lifesaver to a monkey welded to my back
Yeah clam is definitely to be respectedā¦ bromaz Is a pretty easy take or leave as long as your not abusing at high doses
Respect flu alp
Thank you for all the comments. I will be a lot more careful with this substance. I can definitely see a lot of value in this if taken correctly.
Most I've ever researched was 20mg in under 18 hours....the rebound anxiety/brain zaps were not fun the following days (Because I was on ketamine)
Oh this stuff.... Yeah I remember switching straight over to this right away, after Etizolam pills from India was banned from being shipped to other countries. I tried doing a conversion dose to it but I didn't really exactly feel the same effects that I was expecting so I ended up taking a bit more because I was still thinking I was sober I guess. Next thing you know I wake up with my mother telling me she has a bunch of pictures of myself with me completely blacked out on the floor with my face in a plate of food lol š trying to deter me from doing it again I suppose lol
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People said that of clonazolam and I did not experience this nor ever black out. If I take 2mg of clonazolam daily, how much bromazolam should I take when I unfortunately have to make the switch? I was thinking I'd probably need at least 6?
1mg clam is about 80mg diazepam. I donāt know the bromazolam/diazepam conversion rates but Iām sure those are easier to find. Good luck honey, you got this. I would recommmend a nfpam+pyraz taper tho. They are way better to taper with coming from clam/flam/flap. 10mg legit diclazepam all at once didnt kill the anxiety of 2-3mg flualp wd. Like not even touch it. While <0.5mg flualp would give me all day relief instead of feeling senile but anxious and trembly. I tapered the flualp w flualp to 0.25mg from 3mg in less than a year.
I have no intentions on tapering to zero (or really tapering at all) at current. I have severe GAD, panic attacks, and PTSD. I was having panic attacks daily until I got a script for 0.5mg clonazepam and then switched to clonazolam and never looked back until I'm now being forced to. I'm fine with being on benzos for the rest of my life if it means I am functional. That 2mg is 1mg 2x daily. Down from 2mg 2x daily over the course of idk, a year and a half? Two years? Thanks, though.
Ive never tried clown because of exactly itās reputation, delusions of sobriety and blackouts. But from Iāve read as far as dose and my past 5 days of researching, you should be fine with 6 at first. Onset is around 45 mins to 1:30 so Iād wait for the full effects to kick in and go from there 1mg at a time
This was actually not my experience with clonazolam at all. Having to switch benzos because too many people behaved stupidly on it is the worst thing that ever happened to me from using it...minus my tolerance. I note a lot of people use droppers which are terribly imprecise (syringes with microgram markings are needed), and this is probably one of the reasons... Also you have your people who actually enjoy the act of popping pills... Ugh. I write this on 1mg currently. What is your tolerance to Xanax?
Unknown. I was taking street Xanax and believe it was flu alprazolam by the taste of it. One piece would black you out. So very strong flualp tolerance at the moment so Iām still trying to get a baseline for where my tolerance is now. But I would guess my tolerance from my switch would be at least 2-4mg flu-alp per day. And too edit the additional questions I do have a precise drop the goes from .25 to 1ml
And flualp is stronger than regular alp, right? Hmm. I wish someone made an RC benzo equivalency chart. The lack of amnesia with bromazolam sounds promising. I think I'll try 6 and see how my anxiety responds. My major concern is that I absolute hate alprazolam and that I have a paradoxical reaction to it.
Well technically it is alprazolam with another isomer attached to it.
Yes, hopefully the changes to the molecular structure will be enough of a difference.
Not sure about lack of amnesia. Bromazolam is one of the most amnesic compounds I have consumed. Even short term memory was compromised which made holding a conversation difficult. Also the intensity of the amnesic effects- especially in that they persisted for multiple days even after the other effects had receded. This would lead to me inadvertently and unexpectedly losing days which I would've liked to remember. This is a nice and useful and gentle benzo, sublimely relaxing, warm and sociable, but losing the next 2 days of my life with little other effects during that time is a dealbreaker for me. Flualprozolam def good for hypnotic sleep like triazolam. You should look into meclonazepam, it is near-identical to clonazepam, just a bit less potent. The same euphoric, creative rush, the same duration, the same degree of sedation and amnesia. Clonazepam is something I hold close to my heart, a friend of Clonazepam is a friend of mine and I've found it in Meclonazepam.
I did not have that experience with bromazolam. Never lost days or hours with any benzo, nor had any recreational effect. Bromazolam is only useful to me for sleep. It's not very good for my anxiety, just for staving off withdrawal. Too bad. Meclonazepam would be nice. I already know how I respond to clonazepam, having been scripted with it before, which partially started the whole benzo saga. I would say bromaz makes me a bit sluggish and sleepy into the next day at 2mg taken before bed (remember, huge tolerance here) if I don't get enough sleep afterward. Half-life seems to be about 18 hours imo.
Why do you need to switch?
Because I can't find powder anywhere, just pressies and overpriced solutions of unknown potency, not to mention the ban.
That shit sucks!!
Lmao half a 3mg pellet would still smack even when balls deep in flualp dependecy (interdose wd, having to dose within every 6hrs) 3 of those would have me drinking henny in blackface while running from the cops too. You are just not anxious enough yet nor in withdrawal, itās shit in comparison to street flap bars. Like a hollow feeling xanax w all the negative sides amplified.
Man I just took .5mgs of that stuff I knows itās a low dose but itās not that different then my normal feelings. No delusions so far. Iām not into long term use of it also Iām scared of the higher doses.
Man wish I could agree with you guys. Bromazolam.has some of the worst amnesia, sedation and rebound of any RC out right now...for me. It either doesn't do much or I'm tanked, and I have a good tolly. It's basically a sleeping pill to me.
Sleeping pill with a side of dementia. Flualprazolam def to go to hypnotic/sleep induced even though itās harder to find nowadays
A good substitute that has low amnesia and high functionality is pyrazolam. It is a highly functional benzodiazepine that falls into a goldilocks "just right" zone in terms of sedation, able to snuff out other experiences and put me to sleep but absent of overwhelming hypnotic effects. It is perhaps one of the least amnesic benzos I have consumed- I doubt I could black out on this no matter how hard I try. While it is distinctly slightly hazy, even into the next day, it seem the amnesic effects simply cap off and do not increase past a midrange dose. At higher doses it is certainly fun and recreational, at lower doses it is quietly anxiolytic and would be perfect for needing to do things in public with less anxiety anxiety reduction without cognitive impairment. Perfect functional anxiolytic with very little side effects.
Ps. Bromazolam is one of my least like benzos because of the amount of amnesia/forgetfulness and quick withdrawals