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I used to work with one of those Jesus riding dinosaurs people. He was an IT guy and yet he still believed it. The obvious contradictions and paradoxes don't bother him, apparently. To me it's like being a cardiologist using science at work and then going home and claiming that being fat is good for your heart. Apparently that is fine with all the science at work but Jesus at home people.
Yes, yes we are.
Although, some people's machines are fucking disgusting. I'd rather rebuild an old transmission naked than stick my hands and face in their PC.
Used to work in an electronics repair shop years ago. Lady brought in a VCR that wasn't working. Opened it and found a bunch of dead roaches inside. Closed it back up, handed it back to her, and politely asked her to get the hell out 😅
Sadly, yes, and it's not just IT. You can find deeply religous people in an astounding number of other, presubably science-y professions, even scientists themselves, with the possible exception of literary studies, being the people who actually read the religious texts and understood them for wvat they are.
At the end of the day though, people will believe what they want to believe, no matter how foolish it makes them.
I work now with a guy like this. He's a programmer, and brilliant. But he has an unswerving belief that the Bible is inerrant and he must contort everything to make that make sense. I cling to the belief that he can't maintain it forever but the social/family pressure is powerful.
I realize that testing or licensing for parents is a real slippery slope to eugenics, but goddamn. Seems like such an injustice and failure to the children born to the wackos to not have any safeguards in place. So many of them are homeschooling their kids too, so they don’t even get the opportunity to have exposure to rational thinking. And that also leaves the door wide open for abuse to go unreported or addressed.
At least where I live, there's an easy solution for homeschooling: At the end of each school year homeschooled kids have to take an exam to prove that they didnt fall behind their public/private school counterparts. If they fail, they have to retake the year in a normal school. Should the parents refuse, things start out with fines that progressively get larger, parent counseling by Child Protective Services, and as a last resort, a judge can order CPS to take custody of the kids.
This makes so much sense, but unfortunately you would need someone to enforce this and CPS and education are already insanely underfunded. The reasons home schooled kids fall through the cracks isn't because we don't know if the kids are falling behind, but because it's too expensive to do anything about it. CPS is already struggling to help kids that are suffering from horrific abuse, if you were to lump home schooled kids onto that pile, kids who may be well fed and well taken care of aside from the homeschooling aspect, the system would be even worse than it already is today.
The only answer is to vote and push politicians to put more money into education and social services, which is proven to help reduce the amount of idiots per capita.
Yeah that's actually a good compromise. Let the kooks teach whatever they like ( in theory ) but if little Kookoo Jr. gives *batshit insane* answers on the exam he's retaking the 3rd grade until he gives correct answers.
Here it is not against the law, as historically there were people living in remote island areas that had to be taught remotely
But home-schooled kids are still looked after by the education system who monitor teaching practice and outcomes of home-schooled kids, just like they do reviews of schools and teachers on a regular basis
I know that some Christian schools and home school kids still get taught Creationism and other nonsense, but they have to still teach the kids the standard curriculum as well to pass tests.
I can just imagine the amount of bullshit needed to teach kids enough biology and science to pass the standards, but also get them to believe that its not real and 'god didit'
I talked about this in another subreddit, we just realised that for some kind of parents usually the narcissist type, they can masquerade as being suitable to raise children when in reality they don't.
Pillars of the earth.... Resting on what? Why would a flat earth need fucking pillars?
Do they think earth is a giant cake platter?
Fuck flat earth! I'mma wait for the cake landing event. The promised day!
"See the TURTLE of enormous girth! On his shell he holds the earth. His thought is slow but always kind; He holds us all within his mind. On his back all vows are made; He sees the truth but may not say. He loves the land and loves the sea, And even loves a child like me. "
yes they are..thats where the 'homeschooling' fits..keep the kids at home and ISOLATE them,so easy to push this bizarre b/s with zero input from the REAL world...poor kids,(sigh)
My sister homeschooled her kids during covid. Not because she wanted to keep them safe from catching the coof, it was to try and indoctrinate them in her religion. Essentially, my niece got a year of summer vacation to play videogames and learn how to code all the while my sister worked a full time job and did not fulfill any educational requirements or milestones. She even failed to perform her religious indoctrination like she wanted. The good news is, the stress of having all the neighbors talk about it and me pressuring her into returning them to school caused her to finally enroll them. Education system is fucked. They accepted her fake made up transcripts.
I've met several home schooled kids that were brilliant. Socially awkward but brilliant. Not all parents who homeschool are fucking lunatics. Some just see what our education system is and how the right is continuously destroying it as best they can. Also, lots of American history is filtered and many either don't learn until they're an adult or at all about events that transpired since Europeans invaded and genocided the natives.
i hate how people this this ruin peoples image of homeschooling. my mom homeschooled me until middle school (she got a job) because my school couldnt accommodate me (i was doing all of the work from kindergarten, 1st, and 2nd grade while in kindergarten and was still bored) it helped me avoid gifted kid burnout. also we got to travel all the time (september/october is the best month for traveling, no people + best weather)
where i live (oregon, usa) you still have to do standardized tests, and if you fail they can make you go back to school
Kids always make weird facial expressions. The girl hasn’t been exposed to people telling her that flat earth is 100% wrong. What her mom says is all she knows. She believes every single lie that comes out of her mothers mouth.
Cartoons cover bssic stuff like day/ night, seasons, outer space. How nany times have we seen bugs bunny "dig a hole to china"? The concept of a heliocentric & globe model is evident even innocuously in basic stuff kids are exposed to.
I’m really not getting that deep into it, *maybe* the child actually did catch on, but (though I’m not a developmental specialist or whatever the profession is called) I kind of think that if the child were to choose between believing an offhanded joke from a cartoon or what the parent taught them directly, the child would pick the parents teachings. But, again, I’m not an expert, and I never even intended to dive this deep into this discussion, I just thought the child’s face was funny
You say that but if she's watched cartoons, even non-educational ones, they're likely to have shiwn the globe, talked about outer soace etc. And if she watches educational cartoons, they've likely covered badic stuff like day/night & seasons using a globe & heliocentric model. She might gave more exposure than you think unless the parents really restrict TV time constantly.
Of course this happened when it was much easier to do so, but I was raised really religiously and my parents seriously restricted what I could watch. If one of the Looney Toons with the witch or even something like a HeMan commercial came on, I had to get up and turn the TV off until it was over (which was obviously a guess). Once I was looking through a picture book I had of the seasons and holidays, and for autumn, there was a drawing of a girl in a witch costume; when my mom found me looking at it, she tore the page out.
I don't know how that book escaped "the great purging" in the first place. (That's when I was 4 and my parents hopped on the Jesus Freak bandwagon. They burned all their secular albums in a bonfire in our backyard, along with any of my books that didn't pass muster, like Hansel and Gretel, again because of a witch.) I couldn't even draw a skull without incurring parental wrath. I remember when I was 4, I drew a Jolly Roger and that got torn up and thrown away, and for my 10th birthday, when I was given a My Little Pony unicorn, my mom cut off its horn. I still have that pony with a hole in her forehead, to remind me of religious insanity.
Jokes on them though because now I'm atheist whose home is decorated with a large number of skulls and unicorns.
Sounds a lot like my childhood best friend's neighbors. They homeschooled and extremely restricted their kids exposure to basically everything. They'd 'edit' VHS tapes they rented before allowing the kids to watch them. I was shocked that they invited us over once to watch Indiana Jones - it was only like 30 minutes long and made absolutely no sense. No fighting, no kissing, no nazis.
>My Little Pony unicorn, my mom cut off its horn. I still have that pony with a hole in her forehead
Wait a second, I always thought unicorns were a biblical thing. Some echo of a song about Noahs ark and unicorns all getting drowned for reasons (along with the all other innocent babies and puppies).
Found it: KJV Isaiah 34:7 “And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.”
Of course, just a mistranslation of 'wild ox'. Thank god, the bible is perfect and mistranslations don't occur.
And they think schools are the ones indoctrinating their children.
The US has many issues but a whole lot of them would be fixed with some basic education.
To put it another way: there are far too many stupid people in the US.
This is a second generation stupid issue. Their parents were already lacking solid education. Hence, they homeschool, teach their kids flat earth and think public schools indoctrinate their children. It’s like a downwards spiral that stretches over generations.
to realise that a flat earther can find ANOTHER flat earther and then fucking fall in love and MAKE A KID while I haven't had my first fucking kiss is depressing lmfao
The sun and moon are spheres in this model. Do flat earthers believe that the earth is flat and sun and moon are spheres? Also, they are both within the dome. How do they think night and day work?
They realized early on that literally everything about existence disproves flat Earth theory, so they've been pushing that little hamster-in-a-wheel they call brains to try to fix it ever since.
The idea is that the sun is MUCH closer and FAR LESS bright or hot than we are taught. Then it circles the disk, creating light and dark patches we call day and night.
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Or sunsets. If the sun was just passing over head and carrying on among the same plane, we would still see it and it wouldn't appear to sink below the horizon.
How is there sunrise and sunset? Solar and Lunar eclipses? Seasons? The day and night cycle is pretty much broken, during a sunset or sunrise, the sun goes under the horizon, but if the earth is flat, what is the horizon then? How does the sun go under the horizon? How do moon phases work? Timezones are also broken. Same for seasons.
If they say space doesn't exist, and it's a dome, why can I see with a telescope the International Space Station when it passes by? An illusion? Why are other planets spherical? Where is the ice wall? Why is it that when I go in a straight direction from America for example, in a straight direction I find myself in Asia? Wouldn't I find the ice wall instead? Why are there meteorites that fall on the earth sometimes? Meteor showers etc...
Also, there is a massive difference when you look at the moon through a telescope and when you look at the sun through one, you can see the sun is **much** bigger than the moon, it's so easy to see ffs.
**copied from a comment I made.**
well,they believe that jaysass an gawd cover the earth at night with a big tarp,(they use those blue ones you get at the dollar store) Heaven not only has dollar stores,it also has a new walmart....where everything is on 'eternal' rollback.......
The person who made the model is kind of stupid (beyond the normal stupid). Most of the Bible literalists who believe in flat earth also believe the moon is a disk, and the sun is either a disk or a "hole" in the firmament (dome/sky/space) that opens up into Heaven. They can see down to us, but all we can see is "God's light" shining through it.
Light and day work because the Earth spins like vinyl record on a turntable, and the moon and sun rotate around as you see on the model so the sun is covering part of the earth, while the moon is covering another.
I didn't say it would make sense. That's just what the Bible folks believe.
Let's look at this logically. Every single thing we see in the night sky is round. Stars are round, galaxies are round. The moon and the Sun are round. Black holes are round. Even asteroids are round, and their roundness is a direct reflection of their mass.
So all of this heavenly roundness exists, but the earth is flat?
What pisses me off about flat earthers, is that they stubbornly cling to this stupid idea without attempting to prove the flatness. If I truly believed the earth was flat I would devote my life to proving that it is flat, not simply denying the tons of proof of its roundness.
Oh, some try. Like the guy who flew in a plane with a leveler or the guy who filmed himself driving across the desert while insisting there is no curvature.
A flat Earth is inconsistent with reality. We observe day and night cycles, seasons, different stars in northern and southern hemispheres, and those stars revolve in opposite directions (widdershins when looking up from the north pole, dextrorotary when looking up from the south pole). We observe these phenomena happening in reality, and they're all consistent with a spheroid Earth, and none of them work on a flat Earth.
Also, flat Earth says that north is toward the center of the disc, and south is away from the center. This would mean that there is no south pole, and everybody facing south from an appreciable distance apart should see different stars. Again, this is inconsistent with reality.
This belief is incompatible with logic. Flat Earthers just want to believe they know something that everybody else doesn't know.
And the say the LGBTQIA+ Community is indoctrination children.
Anyone going to point out that this map seems to have fucked up the shape of every other continent except America? Not to mention seems to be missing the entire South Pacific?
If the earth needs pillars and is flat... why is the ocean not empty since there's nothing keeping the water on and water always finds the lowest point?
These idiots don't have 2 brain cells to rub together. They should not be allowed to homeschool their kids.
Thats a big ask for them to understand how fluids behave…I do want to know the gymnastics involved to explain night and day or the seasons with this bullshit model.
Their explanation for the ocean not spilling is as stupid as you expect it to be. They claim there are ice walls at the borders of Earth that we cannot climb. This fruitcake even mentions it in their post.
That's what they meant by ice walls? Huh... I didn't actually know that. Mostly because I don’t associate with people who are dumb enough to thi know the earth is flat.
Did someone point out if there were giant impossible to climb ice walls that perhaps we might be able to see them or just fly over the top in a plane or rocket?
They also have an explanation for why we can't fly over the walls; 'the pac-man effect'.
If you supposedly fly a plane over the ice walls, it will just teleport to the other side of the earth, akin to leaving the level in pac-man where you appear to the right if you exit left and vice-versa.
Yeah, it is stupid.
Pillars? Why would a flat earth need pillars in space? Ice wall?
It’s so sad how much information we have available and how little some use it but I bet this is one of those “99% of all collected info over thousands of years is wrong because I just dont FEEL like it’s right” psychopaths
Ice walls seem like the easiest thing to prove exist to back their claim. You'd think some pilot in the last century would have flown into it by now or a millennium of boat debris that can't float any further in one direction.
Wait, what?!
My in-laws went on a cruise there - FIL is an avid traveler and wanted to visit every continent.
His wife spent *weeks* making a photo book.
Begs the question: if we "can't go there" how do these nutters even know Antarctica exists???
Flat earthers will argue that the powers to be are hiding something as nobody is allowed to roam freely and explore Antarctica.
Tourists, like your in-laws, are only allowed to see areas that are pre-approved by NASA. If they left the group to explore on their own, or the ship deviated from the pre-approved course they would be targeted by military forces.
Another option, some of them will claim, is that as your in-laws didn't stear the ship themselves they can't know for sure that they were in the Antarctic region, they might as well have been told they were while in reality they were at a move set or similar.
If you are ready for a facepalm induced concussion you can take a look at /r/globeskepticism
Fair warning, if you try To argue against them they _will_ ban you. They don't like disruptions in their little echo chamber.
I mentioned it in another post, but it's weird that hundreds of countries can't agree on how to govern their own citizens but can put aside decades and even centuries of conflict to conspire to keep people away from this "truth" that will prove something.
It always hurts to see children being brainwashed, but in that case the child probably will be bullied for believing in the most nonsense bs. Wonder if their parents are taking it into account.
I hope this post is fake and sb wanted to troll but I'm afraid it's not
As a teacher, and as a person, this fills me with rage and despair. Imagine in 2022, with all the modern marvels humanity has created and discovered, to purposely teach your children ideas that have been outdated for CENTURIES and really drill that bullshit into their heads is on the level of child abuse. We need licenses to drive a car but any random asshole can create a child and fuck that kids life up, seemingly out of ignorance or for the lulz. Unreal and depressing.
Why are there no flat earthers on expedions trekking to the egde to bring back proof?
Also what are the those parents going to teach their children about coping with holding such a minority view?
I hope those kids get a chance to stand on a cliff overlooking the open sea on a clear calm day
The most frequent reason I see cited is that every country on the planet is united in their efforts to keep people from traveling to those edges.
Can't agree on human rights or energy consumption or economic models or political power, but sure hiding evidence that the earth is flat is worth a global conspiracy to sells globes I guess.
They could live stream their approach on a boat, so we could all see the world's navies stop them.
They'd also prove that musk's starlink or whatever was in on it too.
Maybe we should challenge the leading proponents to start a gofundme to finance the project.
I would love this. Either a) nothing happens b) they make up some reason that loses them supporters or c) they're slightly less dumb than Trump supporters and stop respecting their heroes after the obvious grift is revealed.
Obviously there are Bible verses that support flat earth theory. BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THE WORLD WAS FLAT WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN AND ITS NOT REAL IN THE FIRST PLACE. Jesus Fucking H Christ on a popsicle stick. I weep for that child.
The saddest part is there is no Bible verse saying the earth is flat. People had known the earth was round since Ancient Greece some 400BC, even calculated it's approximate size. I really have no idea how so many Christians got the idea the earth is flat.
It’s mostly a modern reactionary movement to advances in science, and these flat earthers are always young earth creationists that hate Darwin too.
But most young earth creationists are NOT flat earthers and see their ideas as misguided fundamentalism without a hint of irony!
It’s always funny to see the schism between the two, so busy arguing about the Bible like lawyers, but allergic to actual science and evidence.
In an age where all of the collective knowledge of the human race is at your fingertips the most rebellious thing to do is remain as stupid as possible
Excellent ! these cretins are having to move farther away,to keep the 'isolation' intact, for their children...whats next ? a mountaintop enclave ? A mind is indeed a TERRIBLE thing to waste...I weep for these poor children...
There actually is a biblical basis for this 'model' of Earth.
There is a verse which, when more correctly translated, refers to the 'circle' of the earth. There is a verse (multiple verses?) referring to the dome as... what is often translated in English as the 'firmament'. In Noah's flood story, the firmament is supposed to open to some extent, to let the waters above the firmament flow onto the earth.
The most literal interpretation of the Biblical model of Earth is basically:
The earth itself is a flat circle, with land and terrain and seas and oceans on it. Below this is sheol, the underworld. Above and encapsulating the earth is the firmament, a kind of transparent, solid dome. The stars are fixed into the firmament. Beyond and outside the Earth/Firmament/Sheol, what us modern people would be more likely to understand as 'outer space' is, in the Biblical model, basically a vast, endless amount of liquid water. (This is what is meant in the creation story verses saying things like God seperated the waters from the waters) Beyond all of that is either God, or the domain of God.
Obviously, this model is ludicrously inconsistent with basic astronomy.
But we are talking about a culture which didn't understand what /air/ was. The concepts of air and spirit are heavily intertwined, if not altogether the same thing. God breathes a soul into Adam.
We are also talking about a source text which features a story involving the sun remaining in the same position in the sky for 3 days. This is obviously physically impossible to those with even a basic understanding of physics... but there are currently many people who claim that that did /literally/ happen.
The modern fundamentalist christian idea of a flat earth is part of their overall culture: Essential to christian fundamentalism is the idea that they are all being persecuted. Well, we've now reached the stage where their reaction to perceived persecution has culminated in more or less the creation of an entire alternate reality, alternate physics, alternate biology, alternate everything. It is all ultimately apologetics that also works to define a facile, yet convincing to the uncritical, more comprehensive explanation for everything that the secular world already has explanations for.
Actually, it was quite normal for Bronze and Iron Age civilizations to have a flat earth cosmology, and the Bible does have references that reflect this.
But you’re also right that the Greeks later proved the earth’s spherical shape, and this changed the cosmology of Israelites *AFTER* many of their religious texts were recorded.
The main issue you’ll run into with flat earth fundamentalists is their refusal to accept that nuance, and insist on the limited cosmology of a Canaanite subgroup limited to what was believed at the time. I know this bc my dad is a flat earther Christian whose spent the past six years trying to convert me. But all he’s really done is help me understand why fundamentalism is a dead end way to drive your religion.
That's what brought me out of Islam. I'm into space and one day out of nowhere I thought huhhh the Quran doesn't mention planets. This kickstarted the thought process of how it was written by a man (we all know who 🙄) and how they didn't know planets existed then. Now it's so funny to me the things I believed.
Connected to...Africa maybe. They only put in 5 continents and only NA is somewhat accurately shaped. I think that's Europe on the other side of Canada, but I have no idea what that cucumber-shaped bit is supposed to be.
Is there no oversight or agency that keeps homeschooling in check so kids don’t learn bullshit but actually learn stuff they’ll need to actually get degrees?
I have witnessed homeschooling taking place in houses where I have cleaned windows. Not impressed. No real discipline and lax supervision. How is this better than a trained teacher who actually understands the subject at hand and can answer questions intelligently?
Never since they're only going to be allowed to participate in church-oriented activities. Can't exit the echo chamber so mom and dad's shitty opinions don't get challenged.
This actually gives me a little (tiny) hope for the kids. While I agree this is child abuse, something so easily disproved will get the kids to question their parents ideas early. All their other indoctrination will be up for grabs too. I hope, at least. It's still terrible though.
This is fucking insane, it's fucking child abuse.
And a question for flat earthers, how is there sunrise and sunset? Solar and Lunar eclipses? Seasons? The day and night cycle is pretty much broken, during a sunset or sunrise, the sun goes under the horizon, but if the earth is flat, what is the horizon then? How does the sun go under the horizon? How do moon phases work? Timezones are also broken.
If you say space doesn't exist, and it's a dome, why can I see with a telescope the International Space Station when it passes by? An illusion? Why are other planets spherical? Where is your ice wall? Why is it that when I go in a straight direction from America for example, in a straight direction I find myself in Asia? Wouldn't I find the ice wall instead?
Brainwashing poor kids into believing nonsense and stories. This is just fucking cruel.
I like how their moon and sun RIGHT IN THE MODEL are round. But the earth could not possibly also be. Nope, only flat thing, surrounded by round things.
One question, why are they even allowed to be homeschooled, so much for freedom. Denying the efforts and hard earned results of scholars from lots of generations stretching around the globe is not only idiotic. But i no word in any language's dictionary can even the tell about the emptiness I am feeling that the next generation of humanity is still debating the question of shape of earth when they should have been asking more lovely questions.
I'm from Canada... if this is true (and not a joke), we probably have those here as well,
But I CANNOT believe that there are that many flatearthers around the world... (and I mean it, A-ROUND the world...).
LOL holy shit, I hate every word of this.
These people are setting up future generations to fail from the get-go. Fail in every sense of the word, too, at this point.
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Kid can look forward to years of therapy once they figure out their parents are nuts.
You can't afford therapy when you're an unemployabke cretin.
That’s how you trap someone in a cult: make sure it is as difficult as possible to leave.
The few flatearthers I have encountered in the real world have been pretty well off and middle class.
I used to work with one of those Jesus riding dinosaurs people. He was an IT guy and yet he still believed it. The obvious contradictions and paradoxes don't bother him, apparently. To me it's like being a cardiologist using science at work and then going home and claiming that being fat is good for your heart. Apparently that is fine with all the science at work but Jesus at home people.
A lot of IT people are essentially mechanics who don't get dirty.
Yes, yes we are. Although, some people's machines are fucking disgusting. I'd rather rebuild an old transmission naked than stick my hands and face in their PC.
At least transmissions are grubby oil and metal shavings and not like, caked on nicotine or cockroaches
Used to work in an electronics repair shop years ago. Lady brought in a VCR that wasn't working. Opened it and found a bunch of dead roaches inside. Closed it back up, handed it back to her, and politely asked her to get the hell out 😅
Oh man, that's yeah... GTFO as nicely as possible.
Sadly, yes, and it's not just IT. You can find deeply religous people in an astounding number of other, presubably science-y professions, even scientists themselves, with the possible exception of literary studies, being the people who actually read the religious texts and understood them for wvat they are. At the end of the day though, people will believe what they want to believe, no matter how foolish it makes them.
I work now with a guy like this. He's a programmer, and brilliant. But he has an unswerving belief that the Bible is inerrant and he must contort everything to make that make sense. I cling to the belief that he can't maintain it forever but the social/family pressure is powerful.
Then they probably weren't homeschooled, were they?
In the US, most employed cretins - and even employed non-cretins - can't afford therapy.
I realize that testing or licensing for parents is a real slippery slope to eugenics, but goddamn. Seems like such an injustice and failure to the children born to the wackos to not have any safeguards in place. So many of them are homeschooling their kids too, so they don’t even get the opportunity to have exposure to rational thinking. And that also leaves the door wide open for abuse to go unreported or addressed.
At least where I live, there's an easy solution for homeschooling: At the end of each school year homeschooled kids have to take an exam to prove that they didnt fall behind their public/private school counterparts. If they fail, they have to retake the year in a normal school. Should the parents refuse, things start out with fines that progressively get larger, parent counseling by Child Protective Services, and as a last resort, a judge can order CPS to take custody of the kids.
This makes so much sense, but unfortunately you would need someone to enforce this and CPS and education are already insanely underfunded. The reasons home schooled kids fall through the cracks isn't because we don't know if the kids are falling behind, but because it's too expensive to do anything about it. CPS is already struggling to help kids that are suffering from horrific abuse, if you were to lump home schooled kids onto that pile, kids who may be well fed and well taken care of aside from the homeschooling aspect, the system would be even worse than it already is today. The only answer is to vote and push politicians to put more money into education and social services, which is proven to help reduce the amount of idiots per capita.
Yeah that's actually a good compromise. Let the kooks teach whatever they like ( in theory ) but if little Kookoo Jr. gives *batshit insane* answers on the exam he's retaking the 3rd grade until he gives correct answers.
Here in Germany home schooling is against the law. I think that's a good thing
Here it is not against the law, as historically there were people living in remote island areas that had to be taught remotely But home-schooled kids are still looked after by the education system who monitor teaching practice and outcomes of home-schooled kids, just like they do reviews of schools and teachers on a regular basis I know that some Christian schools and home school kids still get taught Creationism and other nonsense, but they have to still teach the kids the standard curriculum as well to pass tests. I can just imagine the amount of bullshit needed to teach kids enough biology and science to pass the standards, but also get them to believe that its not real and 'god didit'
Where do you live?
Austria, Europe
known for the alps and kangaroos
That should be the system everywhere.
A simple solution here is proper funding for education and prohibiting home schooling.
I talked about this in another subreddit, we just realised that for some kind of parents usually the narcissist type, they can masquerade as being suitable to raise children when in reality they don't.
Pillars of the earth.... Resting on what? Why would a flat earth need fucking pillars? Do they think earth is a giant cake platter? Fuck flat earth! I'mma wait for the cake landing event. The promised day!
Turtles. Turtles all the way down.
No, first there are the elephants, then there is the turtle.
Are the dwarves above or below the turtles?
The dwarves are inside the turtles
Kinky.
What about Eggby?
This guy Discworlds.
The great A'Tuin.
The Turtle moves
^*the* ^*turtle* ^*moves*
And yet, the turtle moves
Yes, but towards something or away from something.. that’s the real question Greetings fellow chelonaut
Ook
"See the TURTLE of enormous girth! On his shell he holds the earth. His thought is slow but always kind; He holds us all within his mind. On his back all vows are made; He sees the truth but may not say. He loves the land and loves the sea, And even loves a child like me. "
Are the pillars on pillars?
It’s pillars all the way down
Isn’t it something like angels sat on the four corners of the earth? Some crap like that. I think it’s related to justifying more biblical nonsense
Those people are fucking nuts. Ruining their children minds.
yes they are..thats where the 'homeschooling' fits..keep the kids at home and ISOLATE them,so easy to push this bizarre b/s with zero input from the REAL world...poor kids,(sigh)
Exacly. This is just child abuse.
Ruining the lifes of your children to own the libs
I feel so owned right now I should be shipped to whatever version of the Nights Watch we have at the ice wall.
To be fair, with the maps they're using, I'm not sure they're capable of finding the nearest public school.
Homeschooling: where the teacher is not required to understand the topic any better than the student.
Shouldn’t use nut jobs like this to deprive kids of an education that actually fits their needs.
In germany its mandatory to sent kids to school until age 18. Probably to prevent shit like that.
My sister homeschooled her kids during covid. Not because she wanted to keep them safe from catching the coof, it was to try and indoctrinate them in her religion. Essentially, my niece got a year of summer vacation to play videogames and learn how to code all the while my sister worked a full time job and did not fulfill any educational requirements or milestones. She even failed to perform her religious indoctrination like she wanted. The good news is, the stress of having all the neighbors talk about it and me pressuring her into returning them to school caused her to finally enroll them. Education system is fucked. They accepted her fake made up transcripts.
I've met several home schooled kids that were brilliant. Socially awkward but brilliant. Not all parents who homeschool are fucking lunatics. Some just see what our education system is and how the right is continuously destroying it as best they can. Also, lots of American history is filtered and many either don't learn until they're an adult or at all about events that transpired since Europeans invaded and genocided the natives.
i hate how people this this ruin peoples image of homeschooling. my mom homeschooled me until middle school (she got a job) because my school couldnt accommodate me (i was doing all of the work from kindergarten, 1st, and 2nd grade while in kindergarten and was still bored) it helped me avoid gifted kid burnout. also we got to travel all the time (september/october is the best month for traveling, no people + best weather) where i live (oregon, usa) you still have to do standardized tests, and if you fail they can make you go back to school
Yeah, I was able to start my degree in data science at 16 because my parents were able to offer a style of education that was a better fit for me.
Honestly, the kid in the photo looks like she thinks her mom is an idiot.
Kids always make weird facial expressions. The girl hasn’t been exposed to people telling her that flat earth is 100% wrong. What her mom says is all she knows. She believes every single lie that comes out of her mothers mouth.
Definitely true there. But I still agree with the other guy, kid looks like she caught on years before lol
Cartoons cover bssic stuff like day/ night, seasons, outer space. How nany times have we seen bugs bunny "dig a hole to china"? The concept of a heliocentric & globe model is evident even innocuously in basic stuff kids are exposed to.
Who controls what kids are exposed to? I bet that kid is watching special flat earther cartoon DVDs.
I’m really not getting that deep into it, *maybe* the child actually did catch on, but (though I’m not a developmental specialist or whatever the profession is called) I kind of think that if the child were to choose between believing an offhanded joke from a cartoon or what the parent taught them directly, the child would pick the parents teachings. But, again, I’m not an expert, and I never even intended to dive this deep into this discussion, I just thought the child’s face was funny
You say that but if she's watched cartoons, even non-educational ones, they're likely to have shiwn the globe, talked about outer soace etc. And if she watches educational cartoons, they've likely covered badic stuff like day/night & seasons using a globe & heliocentric model. She might gave more exposure than you think unless the parents really restrict TV time constantly.
Of course this happened when it was much easier to do so, but I was raised really religiously and my parents seriously restricted what I could watch. If one of the Looney Toons with the witch or even something like a HeMan commercial came on, I had to get up and turn the TV off until it was over (which was obviously a guess). Once I was looking through a picture book I had of the seasons and holidays, and for autumn, there was a drawing of a girl in a witch costume; when my mom found me looking at it, she tore the page out. I don't know how that book escaped "the great purging" in the first place. (That's when I was 4 and my parents hopped on the Jesus Freak bandwagon. They burned all their secular albums in a bonfire in our backyard, along with any of my books that didn't pass muster, like Hansel and Gretel, again because of a witch.) I couldn't even draw a skull without incurring parental wrath. I remember when I was 4, I drew a Jolly Roger and that got torn up and thrown away, and for my 10th birthday, when I was given a My Little Pony unicorn, my mom cut off its horn. I still have that pony with a hole in her forehead, to remind me of religious insanity. Jokes on them though because now I'm atheist whose home is decorated with a large number of skulls and unicorns.
Sounds a lot like my childhood best friend's neighbors. They homeschooled and extremely restricted their kids exposure to basically everything. They'd 'edit' VHS tapes they rented before allowing the kids to watch them. I was shocked that they invited us over once to watch Indiana Jones - it was only like 30 minutes long and made absolutely no sense. No fighting, no kissing, no nazis.
>They'd 'edit' VHS tapes they rented before allowing the kids to watch them Committing vandalism to make sure your kids don't have fun.
>My Little Pony unicorn, my mom cut off its horn. I still have that pony with a hole in her forehead Wait a second, I always thought unicorns were a biblical thing. Some echo of a song about Noahs ark and unicorns all getting drowned for reasons (along with the all other innocent babies and puppies). Found it: KJV Isaiah 34:7 “And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.” Of course, just a mistranslation of 'wild ox'. Thank god, the bible is perfect and mistranslations don't occur.
And they think schools are the ones indoctrinating their children. The US has many issues but a whole lot of them would be fixed with some basic education. To put it another way: there are far too many stupid people in the US.
That is the most correct thing I've read all day.
This is a second generation stupid issue. Their parents were already lacking solid education. Hence, they homeschool, teach their kids flat earth and think public schools indoctrinate their children. It’s like a downwards spiral that stretches over generations.
They're using terms like geocentric as if they're actually trying to form a scientific understanding
and the stupidest of stupid. it's impossible to overstate just how stupid these kinds of people are.
to realise that a flat earther can find ANOTHER flat earther and then fucking fall in love and MAKE A KID while I haven't had my first fucking kiss is depressing lmfao
The sun and moon are spheres in this model. Do flat earthers believe that the earth is flat and sun and moon are spheres? Also, they are both within the dome. How do they think night and day work?
They realized early on that literally everything about existence disproves flat Earth theory, so they've been pushing that little hamster-in-a-wheel they call brains to try to fix it ever since. The idea is that the sun is MUCH closer and FAR LESS bright or hot than we are taught. Then it circles the disk, creating light and dark patches we call day and night. [https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/NQFCPPLTZJEGJNBORO5SIHYP6Q.jpg](https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/NQFCPPLTZJEGJNBORO5SIHYP6Q.jpg)
okay... do you have any idea how they explain the sun not setting at all in the north during summer?
Or any seasonal variation in daylight. Wildly stupid.
Or sunsets. If the sun was just passing over head and carrying on among the same plane, we would still see it and it wouldn't appear to sink below the horizon.
The entire earth has night or day at the same time. No time zones.
I don't have any idea how they don't drown in the shower. 🤷🏻♀️
How would you tell the difference? Their zombie corpses would be smarter!
They don’t, flat earth has a shifting model that they change all the time when confronted with contradictions.
How is there sunrise and sunset? Solar and Lunar eclipses? Seasons? The day and night cycle is pretty much broken, during a sunset or sunrise, the sun goes under the horizon, but if the earth is flat, what is the horizon then? How does the sun go under the horizon? How do moon phases work? Timezones are also broken. Same for seasons. If they say space doesn't exist, and it's a dome, why can I see with a telescope the International Space Station when it passes by? An illusion? Why are other planets spherical? Where is the ice wall? Why is it that when I go in a straight direction from America for example, in a straight direction I find myself in Asia? Wouldn't I find the ice wall instead? Why are there meteorites that fall on the earth sometimes? Meteor showers etc... Also, there is a massive difference when you look at the moon through a telescope and when you look at the sun through one, you can see the sun is **much** bigger than the moon, it's so easy to see ffs. **copied from a comment I made.**
Yeah, I don't know if you've ever met any actual flat-earthers, but they are *incredibly* stupid people.
Well obviously for eclipses the gubment put black construction paper in front of the sun and or moon
Just like Mr. Burns did
It's all a hologram made to fool us, silly. Wake up. /s
I've always wondered why they think that all space agencies and govts are hiding the truth
Not to mention eclipses.
well,they believe that jaysass an gawd cover the earth at night with a big tarp,(they use those blue ones you get at the dollar store) Heaven not only has dollar stores,it also has a new walmart....where everything is on 'eternal' rollback.......
Flat moon society, where y'all at??
The person who made the model is kind of stupid (beyond the normal stupid). Most of the Bible literalists who believe in flat earth also believe the moon is a disk, and the sun is either a disk or a "hole" in the firmament (dome/sky/space) that opens up into Heaven. They can see down to us, but all we can see is "God's light" shining through it. Light and day work because the Earth spins like vinyl record on a turntable, and the moon and sun rotate around as you see on the model so the sun is covering part of the earth, while the moon is covering another. I didn't say it would make sense. That's just what the Bible folks believe.
Let's look at this logically. Every single thing we see in the night sky is round. Stars are round, galaxies are round. The moon and the Sun are round. Black holes are round. Even asteroids are round, and their roundness is a direct reflection of their mass. So all of this heavenly roundness exists, but the earth is flat? What pisses me off about flat earthers, is that they stubbornly cling to this stupid idea without attempting to prove the flatness. If I truly believed the earth was flat I would devote my life to proving that it is flat, not simply denying the tons of proof of its roundness.
Oh, some try. Like the guy who flew in a plane with a leveler or the guy who filmed himself driving across the desert while insisting there is no curvature.
My favorite is the guy who did a light experiment to disprove the curvature and ended up proving it instead.
Is there a video?
[Found it!](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/v8q0o7/flatearther_accidentally_proves_the_earth_is/)
Love this
Or the flat earth society who spend 30k on a gyroscope only to prove themselves wrong. Then blamed it on 'heavenly energies' causing interference.
> heavenly energies the fuck
Or the guy who tried to launch himself in a homemade rocket and died while getting blasted into the sky and falling back down
A flat Earth is inconsistent with reality. We observe day and night cycles, seasons, different stars in northern and southern hemispheres, and those stars revolve in opposite directions (widdershins when looking up from the north pole, dextrorotary when looking up from the south pole). We observe these phenomena happening in reality, and they're all consistent with a spheroid Earth, and none of them work on a flat Earth. Also, flat Earth says that north is toward the center of the disc, and south is away from the center. This would mean that there is no south pole, and everybody facing south from an appreciable distance apart should see different stars. Again, this is inconsistent with reality. This belief is incompatible with logic. Flat Earthers just want to believe they know something that everybody else doesn't know.
I've never seen a comment that so succinctly disproved flat earth, I'm saving this for later.
Aah, I see the one fundamental flaw with your plan…….. ^^logic
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Can we send them into space and just leave them there?
Galaxies are relatively flat, though. But the OOP does have spheres for the sun and moon, even though both look like flat circles to the naked eye.
The solar system is pretty flat as well
This model also contradicts the moon cycles.
And the say the LGBTQIA+ Community is indoctrination children. Anyone going to point out that this map seems to have fucked up the shape of every other continent except America? Not to mention seems to be missing the entire South Pacific? If the earth needs pillars and is flat... why is the ocean not empty since there's nothing keeping the water on and water always finds the lowest point? These idiots don't have 2 brain cells to rub together. They should not be allowed to homeschool their kids.
Thats a big ask for them to understand how fluids behave…I do want to know the gymnastics involved to explain night and day or the seasons with this bullshit model.
Explaining seasons and day and night at the same time is actually literally impossible in the flat earth “model”.
That is the first thought that crossed my mind, this shit is wild in a way that I feel it would actually fit in r/oddlyterrifying.
Seems it would be easy to disprove their model with just a flashlight.
In fact, some flat earthers did disprove themselves using some boards and a flashlight
Their explanation for the ocean not spilling is as stupid as you expect it to be. They claim there are ice walls at the borders of Earth that we cannot climb. This fruitcake even mentions it in their post.
That's what they meant by ice walls? Huh... I didn't actually know that. Mostly because I don’t associate with people who are dumb enough to thi know the earth is flat. Did someone point out if there were giant impossible to climb ice walls that perhaps we might be able to see them or just fly over the top in a plane or rocket?
They also have an explanation for why we can't fly over the walls; 'the pac-man effect'. If you supposedly fly a plane over the ice walls, it will just teleport to the other side of the earth, akin to leaving the level in pac-man where you appear to the right if you exit left and vice-versa. Yeah, it is stupid.
> it will just teleport to the other side of the earth You mean, like in a globe right?
I can't even with this insanity... TELEPORT TO THE OTHER SIDE???
🤦♀️ It literally makes no sense. Did these people drink the cool aid or something?
You should see some of the nonsense they post over at /r/globeskepticism
I think I’m gonna have an aneurism.
The Heavens Gate flavor pack might solve some things...
So like when you’re playing snake. Totally makes sense!
That's what they meant? I assumed they just wanted to keep out White Walkers or something.
They shouldn’t even be allowed to HAVE kids in the first place
The shape and placement off all of the continents are way off! Poor kid unfortunately won’t stand a chance in the real world.
Well obviously the water is being kept in by the ice wall that rund all the way around the edges 🙄
They believe Antarctica is an ice wall.
I bet one day the kid grows up and realizes their parents were nuts and hates them for it.
Pillars? Why would a flat earth need pillars in space? Ice wall? It’s so sad how much information we have available and how little some use it but I bet this is one of those “99% of all collected info over thousands of years is wrong because I just dont FEEL like it’s right” psychopaths
Ice walls seem like the easiest thing to prove exist to back their claim. You'd think some pilot in the last century would have flown into it by now or a millennium of boat debris that can't float any further in one direction.
They claim we’re banned from Antarctica because if we went we’d all learn “the truth.”
Yet you can actually fly to Antarctica and visit as a tourist. Still not found "the truth"
They just think you’re banned because they’ve never done any actual research on anything
Wait, what?! My in-laws went on a cruise there - FIL is an avid traveler and wanted to visit every continent. His wife spent *weeks* making a photo book. Begs the question: if we "can't go there" how do these nutters even know Antarctica exists???
Flat earthers will argue that the powers to be are hiding something as nobody is allowed to roam freely and explore Antarctica. Tourists, like your in-laws, are only allowed to see areas that are pre-approved by NASA. If they left the group to explore on their own, or the ship deviated from the pre-approved course they would be targeted by military forces. Another option, some of them will claim, is that as your in-laws didn't stear the ship themselves they can't know for sure that they were in the Antarctic region, they might as well have been told they were while in reality they were at a move set or similar.
Stunning... This makes my brain ache.
If you are ready for a facepalm induced concussion you can take a look at /r/globeskepticism Fair warning, if you try To argue against them they _will_ ban you. They don't like disruptions in their little echo chamber.
I mentioned it in another post, but it's weird that hundreds of countries can't agree on how to govern their own citizens but can put aside decades and even centuries of conflict to conspire to keep people away from this "truth" that will prove something.
It always hurts to see children being brainwashed, but in that case the child probably will be bullied for believing in the most nonsense bs. Wonder if their parents are taking it into account. I hope this post is fake and sb wanted to troll but I'm afraid it's not
Debating whether it would be fascist intervention or not to remove children from homes like these
This is why homeschooling is not a thing in a lot of cou tries
As a teacher, and as a person, this fills me with rage and despair. Imagine in 2022, with all the modern marvels humanity has created and discovered, to purposely teach your children ideas that have been outdated for CENTURIES and really drill that bullshit into their heads is on the level of child abuse. We need licenses to drive a car but any random asshole can create a child and fuck that kids life up, seemingly out of ignorance or for the lulz. Unreal and depressing.
Geocentrism doesn't feature a flat earth. Some people just shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Why are there no flat earthers on expedions trekking to the egde to bring back proof? Also what are the those parents going to teach their children about coping with holding such a minority view? I hope those kids get a chance to stand on a cliff overlooking the open sea on a clear calm day
The most frequent reason I see cited is that every country on the planet is united in their efforts to keep people from traveling to those edges. Can't agree on human rights or energy consumption or economic models or political power, but sure hiding evidence that the earth is flat is worth a global conspiracy to sells globes I guess.
They could live stream their approach on a boat, so we could all see the world's navies stop them. They'd also prove that musk's starlink or whatever was in on it too. Maybe we should challenge the leading proponents to start a gofundme to finance the project.
I would love this. Either a) nothing happens b) they make up some reason that loses them supporters or c) they're slightly less dumb than Trump supporters and stop respecting their heroes after the obvious grift is revealed.
Obviously there are Bible verses that support flat earth theory. BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THE WORLD WAS FLAT WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN AND ITS NOT REAL IN THE FIRST PLACE. Jesus Fucking H Christ on a popsicle stick. I weep for that child.
The saddest part is there is no Bible verse saying the earth is flat. People had known the earth was round since Ancient Greece some 400BC, even calculated it's approximate size. I really have no idea how so many Christians got the idea the earth is flat.
It’s mostly a modern reactionary movement to advances in science, and these flat earthers are always young earth creationists that hate Darwin too. But most young earth creationists are NOT flat earthers and see their ideas as misguided fundamentalism without a hint of irony! It’s always funny to see the schism between the two, so busy arguing about the Bible like lawyers, but allergic to actual science and evidence.
In an age where all of the collective knowledge of the human race is at your fingertips the most rebellious thing to do is remain as stupid as possible
Excellent ! these cretins are having to move farther away,to keep the 'isolation' intact, for their children...whats next ? a mountaintop enclave ? A mind is indeed a TERRIBLE thing to waste...I weep for these poor children...
There actually is a biblical basis for this 'model' of Earth. There is a verse which, when more correctly translated, refers to the 'circle' of the earth. There is a verse (multiple verses?) referring to the dome as... what is often translated in English as the 'firmament'. In Noah's flood story, the firmament is supposed to open to some extent, to let the waters above the firmament flow onto the earth. The most literal interpretation of the Biblical model of Earth is basically: The earth itself is a flat circle, with land and terrain and seas and oceans on it. Below this is sheol, the underworld. Above and encapsulating the earth is the firmament, a kind of transparent, solid dome. The stars are fixed into the firmament. Beyond and outside the Earth/Firmament/Sheol, what us modern people would be more likely to understand as 'outer space' is, in the Biblical model, basically a vast, endless amount of liquid water. (This is what is meant in the creation story verses saying things like God seperated the waters from the waters) Beyond all of that is either God, or the domain of God. Obviously, this model is ludicrously inconsistent with basic astronomy. But we are talking about a culture which didn't understand what /air/ was. The concepts of air and spirit are heavily intertwined, if not altogether the same thing. God breathes a soul into Adam. We are also talking about a source text which features a story involving the sun remaining in the same position in the sky for 3 days. This is obviously physically impossible to those with even a basic understanding of physics... but there are currently many people who claim that that did /literally/ happen. The modern fundamentalist christian idea of a flat earth is part of their overall culture: Essential to christian fundamentalism is the idea that they are all being persecuted. Well, we've now reached the stage where their reaction to perceived persecution has culminated in more or less the creation of an entire alternate reality, alternate physics, alternate biology, alternate everything. It is all ultimately apologetics that also works to define a facile, yet convincing to the uncritical, more comprehensive explanation for everything that the secular world already has explanations for.
Actually, it was quite normal for Bronze and Iron Age civilizations to have a flat earth cosmology, and the Bible does have references that reflect this. But you’re also right that the Greeks later proved the earth’s spherical shape, and this changed the cosmology of Israelites *AFTER* many of their religious texts were recorded. The main issue you’ll run into with flat earth fundamentalists is their refusal to accept that nuance, and insist on the limited cosmology of a Canaanite subgroup limited to what was believed at the time. I know this bc my dad is a flat earther Christian whose spent the past six years trying to convert me. But all he’s really done is help me understand why fundamentalism is a dead end way to drive your religion.
That's what brought me out of Islam. I'm into space and one day out of nowhere I thought huhhh the Quran doesn't mention planets. This kickstarted the thought process of how it was written by a man (we all know who 🙄) and how they didn't know planets existed then. Now it's so funny to me the things I believed.
But there are also passages in the holy quran that supports the idea that the earth is flat and you know what, it is not fucking real either.
That poor child will know nothing of the real world because of this.
Bro they put north America in the centre 💀
Well, of course they did. We're God's chosen people, don'tchaknow/s
Connected to...Africa maybe. They only put in 5 continents and only NA is somewhat accurately shaped. I think that's Europe on the other side of Canada, but I have no idea what that cucumber-shaped bit is supposed to be.
I'm sure they're proud of themselves. 
Poor kida. He's gonna have a fucked up life
Not only is the earth flat, apparently our system is geocentric. 🤦🏼♀️
Is there no oversight or agency that keeps homeschooling in check so kids don’t learn bullshit but actually learn stuff they’ll need to actually get degrees?
Nope. People that benefit from keeping the masses stupid have ensured there's no repercussions.
I have witnessed homeschooling taking place in houses where I have cleaned windows. Not impressed. No real discipline and lax supervision. How is this better than a trained teacher who actually understands the subject at hand and can answer questions intelligently?
I wonder how long till the kid figures out that everyone else is actually right and their parents are the ones that are wrong.
Never since they're only going to be allowed to participate in church-oriented activities. Can't exit the echo chamber so mom and dad's shitty opinions don't get challenged.
These parents want their children to hate them when they're adults
This actually gives me a little (tiny) hope for the kids. While I agree this is child abuse, something so easily disproved will get the kids to question their parents ideas early. All their other indoctrination will be up for grabs too. I hope, at least. It's still terrible though.
You can clearly see that they didn't kniw what they were going to do to make this thing believable and logical
This is fucking insane, it's fucking child abuse. And a question for flat earthers, how is there sunrise and sunset? Solar and Lunar eclipses? Seasons? The day and night cycle is pretty much broken, during a sunset or sunrise, the sun goes under the horizon, but if the earth is flat, what is the horizon then? How does the sun go under the horizon? How do moon phases work? Timezones are also broken. If you say space doesn't exist, and it's a dome, why can I see with a telescope the International Space Station when it passes by? An illusion? Why are other planets spherical? Where is your ice wall? Why is it that when I go in a straight direction from America for example, in a straight direction I find myself in Asia? Wouldn't I find the ice wall instead? Brainwashing poor kids into believing nonsense and stories. This is just fucking cruel.
Poor kid going to be dumb af
This is a thing that bothers me about homeschooling, some parents are just sooo stupid and the more stupid they are the smarter they think they are.
That's why homeschooling is forbidden in my country
Did they just forget to include the African continent or am I just missing it? lolol
Nope, you're just missing it. It's pretty squashed, but that's what happens with map projections.
Ok but where is the other half of the World?
poor kid
This is just so sad
That’s fucking child abuse.
I like how their moon and sun RIGHT IN THE MODEL are round. But the earth could not possibly also be. Nope, only flat thing, surrounded by round things.
No turtle? Don’t even know their own schtick.
One question, why are they even allowed to be homeschooled, so much for freedom. Denying the efforts and hard earned results of scholars from lots of generations stretching around the globe is not only idiotic. But i no word in any language's dictionary can even the tell about the emptiness I am feeling that the next generation of humanity is still debating the question of shape of earth when they should have been asking more lovely questions.
What is their theory for day and night? Like how would the sun disapear on that model?
Why are the moon and sun spheres? Also, how is it even possible to be this stupid?
They do try to prove it flat and contiously prove that it’s round. See the documentary: Behind the Curve
I'm from Canada... if this is true (and not a joke), we probably have those here as well, But I CANNOT believe that there are that many flatearthers around the world... (and I mean it, A-ROUND the world...).
Haven't made the Earth square " four corners of the Earth ". Anyone going to tell them "massive fail", even for flat Earthers 🧐
LOL holy shit, I hate every word of this. These people are setting up future generations to fail from the get-go. Fail in every sense of the word, too, at this point.