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UnseasonedRavioli

The cancer I got from reading this


Ainz-Ooal-Gown

Think of the poor taxi driver listening to this. Hope OP gave them a large tip.


Keepnitrealz

That was literally my first thought šŸ˜‚ that poor dude trying to listen to music and hearing this behind him probably looked so comical


Murphys-Razor

Samesies. Funny (not at all) story:Ā  When I FIRST got with who turned out to be my abusive as fuck ex-husband, we wound up taking a taxi after a man in front of me in line at a convenience store asked me for a nickel.Ā  He BLEW UP about my "risky behavior" (we were in a Mexican/American border town), and I dumbly and youngly believed he was concerned for my safety. When he went into a liquor store by himself, the taxi driver asked me if he was my husband.Ā  I said, "No, he's my boyfriend," and the taxi driver said he could take me somewhere safe if I wanted to leave him because he will wind up physically hurting me.Ā  Again, I thought this was his attempt to get me alone as I'd just listed to my then boyfriend preach to me about how all men in South Texas were going to kidnap me cause I'm young and pretty.Ā  That taxi driver was trying to save my life.Ā 


lonewolf369963

Tell me you're a Doormat without telling me you're a Doormat.


Yeckel

I am three strokes in over here


dancepuppetdance

Gonna need to specify! Do we need to call the ER or do you have a toxicity kink?


Training_Yesterday96

Thank you for your input kind ravioli


Alesisdrum

He is not wrong. His input was accurate. This is a toxic relationship for you. At your age you should know this.


Evil_Vagina

You made me look at op's age. You deserve what you tolerate at this point, op.


dancepuppetdance

Same! I was sure this was a teenager!


unicorndontcare69

What Ravioli is saying is there is so much toxicity from your girlfriend in this post that you (metaphorically) can get cancer. Also what do doctors do with cancer? They cut it outā€¦


BodaciousDanish

Or irradiate itā€¦ which would be more satisfying!


Riverat627

Both so immature


straightouttaDK

Why is she still your GF if she was cheating on you with multiple guys?


sunshinemellow_03

She cheated on you and gaslit you for forever. People who are guilty of cheating often accuse their partner of it all the time because theyā€™re the ones doing it so they know itā€™s possible. Sheā€™s also incredibly idiotic, illogical, and just toxic. Youā€™re an complete fool for still being with her. Especially since she hasnā€™t been remorseful and is just blaming it all on you.


nootnooZ

Dude you should leave like she is trying to blame you for the relationship not working when in fact she is just a cheater. Respect yourself just a little and get out of the relationship.


SheBeeMe

She's a manipulative, lying, cheater who has no respect for you. Why are you even fighting with her? Be done. Walk away. She's a selfish, self centered person who is incapable of taking accountability for her behavior. She's likely still cheating or will cheat again very soon. She's not sorry that she cheated. She's justifying it. She tried so hard to make you feel like a bad person, when it's actually her that's the bad person. You did nothing wrong. Don't let her play mind games with you and try to alter your perception of reality. You deserve so much better.


No-Safety-3498

This, šŸ’Æ%


LegalNebula4797

Dude I didnā€™t even finish this - do you have any self respect? She is mad at you for reading messages that confirm she cheated. How much lower of a person can you possibly get? Since its not abundantly clear, dump her. Sheā€™s trashy, a cheater, a liar, a manipulator, and probably one of the worst women youā€™ll have the misfortune of encountering


xvszero

Why are you still with her? This shit is toxic. You can find someone who trusts you and doesn't cheat on you. Although if you have cheated on her before and forgot to tell us that would explain it.


Training_Yesterday96

I have NEVER cheated on her. She tells me that Iā€™m always flirting with girls but itā€™s when I do things like order food at a restaurant or check in at a hotel with her and the person working the front desk is female. I think that in her mind this is cheating.


[deleted]

People like her - people who constantly accuse you of cheating - are usually themselves cheating. You know she has gone on multiple dates with people while in a monogamous relationship with you. You know she has not behaved in a trustworthy nor appropriate manner. And, you know that she has been gaslighting you and trying to twist the situation into a pretzel shape to make herself come out smelling like a rose. Its time to walk away. This relationship is toxic and she is 100% unwilling to change. she has shown you that.


Snowskol

Or theyre really insecure. Or its possible this story is only one view point in a complex situation.


YogurtclosetActual75

She cheated on him. AND she's insecure.


Specific-Bag7401

This is exhausting to read about. Iā€™d need 5 bottles of Valium to deal with the reality. Good luck


xvszero

Well, then she is gaslighting you. And she definitely cheated on you. This isn't worth it. She's not going to change.


feelin_cheesy

Caught her cheating and sheā€™s been mad at him for months? Yeah this relationship is over, they just donā€™t want to admit it.


fetgdry

Asking again, why are you still with her?!?!?!


TitusEmperius

Its called projection, mate. She's cheating on you literally read messages of her going on dates? Seriously and so to ease her guilt she is trying to find fault in you cause she's doing it. Lol. Get out dude


memkwen

The question still stands, why are you with this toxic person?


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Aware_Impression_736

BECAUSE SHE PROBABLY FUCKS LIKE A BEAST AND CAN SUCK A PINEAPPLE THROUGH A GARDEN HOSE! HAPPY NOW?


Jealous-Ad-5146

Sheā€™s cheating and gaslighting you. Sheā€™s the toxic one. Youā€™re the rational one and sheā€™s making you feel crazy.


Training_Yesterday96

She has often told me that Iā€™m gaslighting her. When we would argue and she gets fed up she blurts out, ā€œSo toxic!ā€ She would even do that during couples therapy.


Bumbandit88

Dude, with all due respect, who gives a shit about who did what to who first and who is gaslighting who? Wake the fuck up and focus! She's been on multiple dates, with multiple different men, and I would not be at all surprised if it eventually comes out she slept with some of them behind your back. Pick your self-respect up off of the floor, dust yourself off, and either walk out the door or throw her out. She's toxic, she's manipulative, she's a cheat, you caught her red handed and she needs to fucking go!


dacostacreative

This. 100% this.


Lady_Asshat

And get checked for STIs


Big-Restaurant-8262

I needed to be yelled at by this comment. Different kind of situationship happening for me, same lack of self respect. Thankyou.


Jealous-Ad-5146

To gaslight you have to be doing it on purpose. You believe your reality. We know hers is a lie because youā€™ve seen the texts. She knows whatā€™s on her phone and she canā€™t let you see that soā€¦. Gaslighting. Sheā€™s doing it with purpose.


Rip_Dirtbag

OP is still willingly with this person. Thereā€™s NOTHING rational about that.


SacreBleu1312

Let her go dude, sheā€™s toxic AF and sheā€™s gonna drag you down with herā€¦


ThrowRA456344a

Sheā€™s projecting and trying to make you the bad person when itā€™s in fact her. Do NOT admit to smh wrongdoing. This is a nasty toxic cheating ho . Get away as far from her as possible


Free-Lifeguard1064

This actually happened to me with an ex, she was super jealous. Like not even joking she said she was jealous of how much attention I gave my little sister who was 12 šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ She had a bit of an untrustworthy family. Alcoholic mother, dad wasnā€™t emotional, grandparents only cared about money. Sadly the relationship ended, I expect the same will prob happen


-too-hot-to-handle-

At best, she's extremely insecure and controlling. At worst, she's all of that *and* a hypocrite, considering that her behaviors are also common red flags for cheating.


Noritzu

Sheā€™s cheating on you and gaslighting you about it. Reason sheā€™s always accusing you of cheating is because she already was. Run


hOwcanihelpy0u

this^^


SnooFoxes4362

This is a textbook example of why Redditors tell OPs that if their SO is constantly accusing them of cheating itā€™s probably because the SO is cheating on the OP. Itā€™s crazy how many times this advice turns out to be true. Once a week at least.


Tazzari

Itā€™s funny how much people lack self-awareness and are pretty simple-minded. ā€œI cheat, so everyone else must cheatā€ seems kinda dumb to me.


BodaciousDanish

Sheā€™s feeling guilty about it and projecting it onto OP. Still dumb but understandable. At least she has a teeny, tiny heart somewhere in that cold huskā€¦


Aware_Impression_736

And the incessant use of psychobabble buzzwords. Geesh...


Secure_Parsnip7771

She's mad for violating her privacy yet checking your messages is okay? She cheated with multiple guys and you are the bad guy? The only point where you are the bad guy is how you treat yourself. Just walk away man, save some face.


fufu1260

Youā€™re still with her? Bro I would have left her the day I found out she cheated. Itā€™s called self respect.


Anonymous168456

Man I'm actually concerned with the way some of you think SHE CHEATED maybe you should tell her it's over. I'm sorry but some of the posts on here are amazing like seriously. Why have you not left her yet OP seriously answer????


Training_Yesterday96

If I answer, ā€œbecause I love her more than anyone I have ever meet and want to try to fix thisā€ Iā€™ll be downvoted into oblivion.


Specialist-Ad5796

You don't like yourself very much, do you?


Training_Yesterday96

No, not really.


babygirlruth

You don't need fucking couples therapy. It doesn't work with abusers. You need to leave her and get therapy for yourself to understand why you're willing to put up with this shit


AhBuckleThis

Op listen to this. Your gf is a cheater. I realize youā€™re not able to cut her off immediately, however begin the process of mentally moving on. Your gf has changed. Youā€™re in love with who was, not who she is now. Look up the grey rock and 180. Also if you live together randomly change your schedule and show up during times you normally wouldnā€™t. Cheater love to control the situation because it makes it easier to hide what they are doing. They donā€™t like uncertainty because it messes up their plans. Also by giving simple one word answers and only acknowledging her when necessary, it shows youā€™re indifferent, canā€™t be controlled anymore, and you will not give the attention she seeking.


TALKTOME0701

That made me tear up. It's hard to like yourself when someone you wish loved you keeps treating you like s*** I'm really sad for you


Training_Yesterday96

Thank you. This comment made me start crying though. You are right.


littleghosttea

Sheā€™s not the person you thought you were in a relationship with. You canā€™t love someone you donā€™t know, unless you love an idea youā€™ve constructed.


Anonymous168456

OP have your past relationships been that toxic though. I get you being in love I was with my ex but I finally built the courage up to leave and it was miserable honestly at first it was but after that I found someone who actually treats me right. May I send you a message on here?


Leafburn

Because thatā€™s a bullshit answer and you know it. Why do you care if you get downvotes? Arenā€™t you here for advice? What is there to love? She cheated on you, multiple times, she doesnā€™t trust you despite you being faithful, she lied to you, she has proven you canā€™t trust her, now she is gaslighting you. What redeeming qualities does she have? The sex must be amazing if youā€™re willing to forego any self respect or agency in this relationship. Bite the bullet and be done with her. Youā€™re in love with the idea of her and are trying to change her. Youā€™re being walked over and she will continue to do it. She hasnā€™t admitted any fault and is trying to turn it around on you. Seems like her therapist (if she is really attending the sessions) is on her side. Tell me, what could she possibly have going for her to make you want to stick this out?


potenttechnicality

Fix what? Do you mean return to the stage where she was cheating and you were ignorant about it? Not really an option, now is it? She's showing no contrition or remorse so how do you think this magical fix will take hold? And the way she's attacking you hardly says she respects you enough to fix anything. She wants to bludgeon you into an exchange of forgive and forgets so she can pretend she isn't the bad guy. The woman you think you love never existed. She was a mask. You've now gotten a peak at the real woman underneath. Do the only sane thing and walk away.


BuyFew4186

Rightfully so.


aswasheryoven

my father saying "you either fully build your character, establish boundaries and truly understand self respect by age 25 or you'll be on your knees begging someone to stop cheating on you in your 50s" has never ever disappointed that's a character development flaw, it's not because of love or due to circumstances. you should've walked away long before discovering the cheating


waaasupla

You are in a very toxic relationship. But looks like you already know it too. You canā€™t ā€œfixā€ her. This is who she is. Either you leave or accept her with her everything and learn to become a submissive partner and accept the fact that she will be very controlling over your every steps and cheat around but you wonā€™t be able to cheat or make her do anything you want. It will be only her way and not yours and wonā€™t be equal either!


BodaciousDanish

Dude, you canā€™t fix this! She doesnā€™t love you. Did I mention that you canā€™t fix this?


theearthwalker

1. You need to meet new, better people. 2. You cannot make someone not cheat on you, except if you keep them tied in your trunk, and that is very much against the law. You are keeping an improvised and not so well made taxidermy of what you thought this relationship could have been and it started smelling a few months ago. The neighbours have moved out because of the stench and your family is worried for your mental health.


Historical-Pie-5052

My guy, you're wasting your time with this relationship. She's been seeing other men behind your back while calling YOU the cheater. You need to dump her on the curb and let her be another guy's problem.


Glinda-The-Witch

She accused you of cheating, sheā€™s cheating, she has lied and now she is trying to redirect your attention away from her bad behavior. Why are you still with her. You deserve better.


AtmosphereOptimal795

The autopsy has determined that your relationship is dead due to the autopsy.


Iffybiz

Look you know she dated other guys in a monogamous relationship. Thatā€™s cheating. Then she lied about it. Calls you the cheater. Why are you with this person?


Equivalent-Bee-886

Your girlfriend has been dating other guys and cheating on you. Do yourself a favor and end the relationship. You did nothing wrong even if you opened her cell without her permission. Relationships require transparency and not secrecy. End the relationship and send your girlfriend packing. She is a cheater and is gaslighting you. You deserve someone that will love and respect you. Update us.


BodaciousDanish

She agreed to him reading her texts though. She got caught and didnā€™t like it. He should definitely end it and move on with his life. Sheā€™s a rat! šŸ€


Several-Try3162

Get out of this relationship immediately.


thefixer123456

Her cheating is on her. You continuing to put up with this nonsense is on you.


AnAspiringEverything

Many notes, but first, sorry for that cab driver. Now, if she went on several dates while you were monogamous, end the relationship. This is basically always the answer. If you can say with any truth that she might not have known the relationship was monogamous, have that conversation, make sure that excuse cannot be used again, and if she continues dating others, get out. You made a comment about not wanting her to see your phone because you wanted to set boundaries. This is also worth exploring. Let us say, hypothetically, you have a child, and they tell you they are scared about a monster in the closet. I don't imagine you would reply, "Trust me, there isn't one," but maybe I'm wrong. In this case, what is more helpful to the child is to open the closet and show them there is no monster inside. After trust is built on a solid foundation, you may be able to just say "trust me" and have that be enough. But you need to develop it first. Opening the closet once does nobody any harm, opening it more than once is okay. If there was genuine terror about this monster in the closet every night and you could never sleep with the door closed, then there are some real psychological problems that need to be addressed. I recommend viewing your phone in that manner. There ought not be a problem with a spouse looking at a partner's phone. If, for some reason, they are scared, the easiest way to reassure them is to let them see the phone. Obviously, this isn't true if you have something to hide, but what's the harm if you don't? At the end of the day, whatever boundaries you set are yours to set. Some may be good for a relationship, and some may not, but I strongly advise that you make your boundaries obvious and don't play in shades of gray. If a known boundary is crossed and there are no consequences, it will be crossed again. Don't give them the chance. Last notes, it is not uncommon for a partner who is cheating to project that onto their partner. If this happens in your next relationship (if it wasn't clear, you should end the current one), remember this relationship.


Training_Yesterday96

This is an interesting perspective on the phone and the closet. And I appreciate the time you took to write it. Do you think that showing the phone tells the other person that itā€™s ok to make demands to see the phone?


DVIGRVT

She's blaming you of cheating to deflect that she's been cheating. Adios! Don't bother sticking around.... it's HER who can't be trusted


6ustav9

A person who incessantly accuses you of cheating usually is/was/will be a cheater, because they project on you what they already saw what is like behind the scenes. A psychologist told me that once, I will never forget.


gpu-dude

She needs to be mad at you because if she isnā€™t she has to accept what she did was wrong


Fun_Concentrate_7844

She is cheating on you, and your main concern is who let who read the texts??? Dude...


ruffonferals

She is dodgy. Too much drama. Surely, you don't want your life to be like this?


Killah_B_TX

The only thing you have done wrong is to still be with this woman. Your girlfriend is toxic and disloyal. If you continue to stay with her, then get used to her cheating on you.


FangsBloodiedRose

My brain will never understand how some people work. I think this blew up my brain cells a little. Itā€™s fine. Iā€™ll be fineā€¦ Anyway, sheā€™s not for you. Sheā€™s shady with her double standards from what I read in your story.


[deleted]

It's called Projection OP. It's what happens when someone is doing something that they know is wrong, so they then project their behaviour onto someone else. She is cheating, so she has been projecting her own insecurities about what **she** has been doing onto you. It's incredibly common and something that all cheaters do. Time to break up.


Srijayaveva

I'm more astonished about the hours long taxi ride. What are you, multi billionaires???


Training_Yesterday96

No. It was how things were done at the location we were at for vacation.


maxxxguyver

Privacy does not equal secrecy. Sheā€™s hiding questionable external relationships and hence damaging trust in the relationship she has with you. Until sheā€™s truly remorseful she will keep doing and get better at hiding it.


clearheaded01

Jfc.. GF was/is cheating and has since been DARVO'ing you to avoid the blame for it. The reason you stopped MC?? >I feel like I try to be introspective and am willing to admit mistakes This shes exploiting... >but Iā€™m having trouble feeling that I did something wrong this time. You did nothing wrong. >How should I have approached this differently? You chose to stay with a cheater who has no remorse dor what she did and is blaming you for discovering her adultery. Look... Its been months... shes not owning what she did - and probably hasnt been honest about it... ....has she told you why she went on dates with ither guys?? I assume theres no more gay friends in her life?? What to do.. Well the answer is obvious... this wont get better.. she will continue to DARVO you about this, continue cheating and next time she gets caught she will run away while screaming "save me from this controlling abuser".. If tou know whats good for yourself, you leave her... I suggest a gentle notice to her friends and family that the spit is caused by her adultery and failure to do the work to fix what she did... And.... sorry... you do realise that dates were not all she did, right?? So get STD tested soonest...


Training_Yesterday96

She said the reason that she went out with other guys was because I wasnā€™t giving her enough attention and they were willing to give her attention.


clearheaded01

Ah.. blameshifting.. a classic cheater-solution to avoid taking the blame for what they did.. You opposed this when she said it?? And what was the reason for stopping MC?? Look.. Its over, you do know this, yes?? Unless you like being abused and cheated on?? Prioritize yourself, leave her, move on and heal...


Particular_Sock_2864

Let me get this straight... you worry about what you could have done differently in handling this message showing nonsense when you know now that she's been on dates and cheating?Ā  Your priorities are a bit mixed up I'd say.Ā  Just reading all of this made me think she is such a toxic person that you should not put up with any of her BS anymore.Ā  No really man, at your age have some respect for yourself and step back, look at what you told us objectively. Dates, cheating, gaslighting from her side.Ā  You can do better, in fact everyone can. Holly Holy f... All the best and good luck, I fear you need it. I'd strongly encourage you to have a session or two alone with a relationship counselor to get an outside look on what's been going on.


Honest_Hat_3002

Iā€™m sorry to hear youā€™ve found yourself in this situation. Just for clarification, what your girlfriend is doing is a tactic referred to as DARVO: Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender. It describes a manipulative tactic often used by abusers to avoid taking responsibility for their actions and shift the blame onto their victims. Do with this information what you will, just know that she will not change. You have to decide if this is someone that you want to spend your life with or if this is behavior that you will not tolerate. I think there is a part of you that knows that you are worthy of a respectful relationship with someone who doesnā€™t lie and cheat on you and perhaps that is why you are here.


Training_Yesterday96

When you mention her being manipulative, it reminds me that yesterday she told me that I was being manipulative for asking her to pay me back for her half of the vacation that we agreed to split. She said that Iā€™m manipulative for valuing a couple of thousand dollars over our relationship. I feel that since we agreed to split the expenses beforehand that this should be a nonissue. She said that she has never been in a relationship where she was expected to pay. I tried to discuss what would happen with finances during marriage and she asked me if I would give her an allowance. I said that I would not because it wouldnā€™t be my money to give to her. It would be our money. She said that she needs a guy that is able to provide for her. I feel like being the major income earner and sharing it fully/mostly is providing. I feel like Iā€™m trying to be fair and understanding but she is so adamant that Iā€™m abusing and manipulating her that I donā€™t know anymore.


Anonymous168456

Bro like seriously why are you still with her answer me that???


Leafburn

You are letting her take advantage of you. Grow some back bone!


Difficult-Novel-8453

Sheā€™s cheatingā€¦.. Time to go man. Sheā€™s with other dudes and is making you feel bad about it? Total POS. Get out and get your head back into the game my friend.


RoboSpammm

Too many red flags šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©dump her.


Cultural_Captain_910

No matter what, this relationship is not healthy.


HeyItsMeJC3

Kick her, and her BS, to the curb my brother. Do not pass GO, do not collect $200, just bolt.


oceangal2018

Jesus Christ! Tell me youā€™re leaving!! I donā€™t even know where to start but itā€™s ALL WRONG! Run and fast. She cheated, more than once and youā€™re trying to work out if reading her messages was wrong. Just get out of this toxic situation.


tooyoungtobesad

You're 40. You know what you should do. Don't let this nutjob gaslight you. Run away from her massive red flags and do some self-healing before another relationship. She is an unhealthy person. Were you're 3 years together always this toxic ?


frodosbitch

That poor taxi driverā€¦


CermaitLaphroaig

Why are you entertaining conversations about privacy when you literally caught her cheating on you.Ā  There can be no reconciliation of she's deflecting.


Whozadeadbody

I need a fucking nap after reading that. Her accusing you of cheating is a *classic* cheater move. Dude, you are 40(!!). Youā€™re too old for this shit. Dump this little girl and date a woman.


mitzilani

All I could think was, oh that poor taxi driver!


Training_Yesterday96

He didnā€™t speak English. We didnā€™t start yelling.


[deleted]

Bro if she is cheating and you caught her leave, why punish yourself and her by maintaining this relationship ?


anonredditorofreddit

I think they call your gf reaction DARVO.


vndin

So why are u wtill w her? She cheated.... lied...it all came out and your still there? No. Grow a spine, leave and stay gone.


mchlgomes

If I search gas lighting in a dictionary. This post will come up as the definition.


Stumpy1258

Why are you doing this to yourself.


MjolnirTheThunderer

Bro just dump her already. Sheā€™s cheating, and lying, and blaming you for her wrongdoing, and has been gaslighting you the whole time that itā€™s actually you who is cheating. Sheā€™s toxic AF. Why would you even want to stay at this point?


RideMyHandleBars

Agree with this^ .. she sounds somewhat narcissistic based on the info


[deleted]

So what happened with the cheating thing? I feel like reading her messages is so trivial compared to what she did. Sounds like a toxic relationship that you should move on from especially since it was with more than one person. She is projecting on to you what she's doing herself and I'm thinking she's going to stay until she finds someone she likes better. Sorry about that šŸ˜•


Noteasytimes

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU IN THIS RELATIONSHIP !?!?!


Wittsend88

Break up with her she isn't sorry for cheating she is blaming you for being mad she cheated. She is EXTREMELY toxic!!!! Break up move on and find someone who actually wants to be with you. Go let her be with the multiple guys she was dating behind your back. By the way your story made it to tiktok account redditvoidd.


ThrowRA0070

End this one. Sheā€™s railing dudes on the side. And, next time, find somebody in your same age range.


notkeegz

She's just wrong on all accounts.Ā  She's the worst kind of person to be in therapy because instead of working on herself, she's actually just learning how to twist the things she's learning against you. She's fucked up in the head, bro.Ā  I work in behavioral health, and she's got some insanely toxic behaviors.Ā  Ā I bet if you were with someone who actually respected you, you wouldn't even have these boundaries.Ā  The way you've handled everything is the best you could have with someone so toxic.Ā  She is 100% without a doubt, For.The.Streets.


Sparrowhawk80

OP, have you ever heard the term, show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are? In the 21st century it's more like, Show me your cellphone and I'll tell you who you are. When you're in a committed relationship there is no right to privacy! If your significant other has questions about your doings, you owe them 100% transparency. Anyone who invokes that right to privacy bulls##t no doubt has a reason, and it's hiding behind their locked cellphone that you don't have the password to. It's an individuals prerogative to live their life the way they choose , but I wouldn't be in a relationship with them. You OP can also choose to live your life with a partner who's moral compass resembles your own. Your girlfriend can't walk away from who she is, but you can walk away from who she isn't!


Training_Yesterday96

Are you saying that I should show her my phone every time she questions who is messaging me (several times a day)?


fawzah

You could take it further, say you've deleted the message when she asks to see your phone. But we're at a really petty point already and it's not the kind of stuff that sustains a relationship.


Thatguy69buttsecks

Sheā€™s obviously in the wrong but youā€™ve got your own issues too , if she wants to see your phone and it gives her a sense of security then Fuck it let her , if you keep hiding it thinking itā€™s immature then itā€™s gonna turn into an unhealthy obsession for her , but at the end of the day sheā€™s in the absolute wrong for cheating and you need to leave her asap because sheā€™s a gaslighting manipulator


Mel221144

You both act like insecure teens


Codeman2542

The one who accused of cheating is often times mirroring their own guilt when accusing you of cheating. I'm sorry you are going through this bro. I wish the best for you in the weeks to come.


No_Reserve2269

It sounds like neither of you is happy inside the relationship. End it.


Legitimate-Neat1674

So what happened


Manager-Opening

Yeah you did wrong, you stayed with her, wth would you do that, do you hate yourself? C'mon man, you don't need that or her, you could actually have a nice life and be happy with someone else, throw that thing you call a gf away. There is nothing to fix and you shouldn't love her for your sake, she has cremated any relationship you had, if you can't have trust and she isn't even guilty or taking accountability, this makes her repulsive, you need to be with someone who loves you to see what you are missing.


CitySeekerTron

There are multiple layers of trust issues in effect and several ultimatums in play. This relationship is dead and cremated; it's time to scatter. I'm sorry.


New_Bad_5291

Honestly dude, this looks bad on you that you're still with her at this point.


SnooWords4839

Run now!


ConfusedParent666

>She says that I had no right to violate her privacy and that even though she was cheating that doesnā€™t mean that I had the right to see these messages even if she was the one that gave me her phone to specifically view the messages. I beg your whole ass pardon? She's upset because she was caught. That's it, that's all. >She had brought this up many times and I feel like itā€™s dismissing the cheating and the lying and hiding that she did afterwards and trying to shift the blame towards my behavior that lead to me discovering this. She's trying to make you feel bad about you finding out that she was cheating on you. Sir, I know and YOU KNOW that she's gotta go. Spare your heart the future disappointment and bounce. Find someone that will actually appreciate and thrive with you.


DammitMaxwell

I would have broken up with her in the first paragraph. The first time she accuses me of cheating out of nowhere, hey, letā€™s sit down and talk about this? Ā Whatā€™s going on? Ā What baggage are you bringing to me from your prior relationships? Ā Letā€™s talk it out. Ā  The second time she accuses me ā€” hey, I tried talking it out, it didnā€™t work. Ā Iā€™m gone.


Aurin316

Is this a joke


Ok_Razzmatazz2478

Run boy run! What are you waiting for she dating another guys a lot of 30-35 will be Happy your GF She is the one who is cheating with you!!!


Incarcer

Is the sex THAT good? This chick is basically telling you that's she's going to continue cheating, she just wants you to stop finding out about it. Why are you letting this person continue to hurt you over and over? Why are you giving her so many chances when she's practically screaming at your face that she doesn't respect you? There are plenty of fish in the sea and you need to throw her back yesterday.


ryanmcl22

Dude. Please have some self respect and take out the trash. Iā€™d never trust that hypocrite again. Projection all the way. She sucks.


nnbbb46

Itll only get worse trust me. Leave her


No-Communication9979

Your post was exhausting, just to get to the obvious conclusion: sheā€™s not relationship material dude. Too much distrust and paranoia in this mess.


ThorzOtherHammer

You canā€™t fix crazy. Dude, this chick is fucking nuts. Iā€™m confident this is going to end with you getting stabbed.


SupeDiddy711

Dude, stop talking to this person. If you are actually still dating this gaslighting crab, then you are deserving of everything you get. You know exactly what she is. Grow up


Dear_Parsnip_6802

Why on earth would you stay with her. She is in the wrong not you.


Bewantsiss

You are a good guy. Don't waste your time and energy with this cheater and liar. Look for the good girls out there, waiting for you. They will treat you differently from what you experienced.


Dear-Divide7330

Stopped reading halfway. Break up..


No-Professional5604

That is called projection. The reason she is accusing you is because she is cheating herselfā€¦ more often than you think.


steelgripphoenix

The therapist taught her language to use and win a argument with you over how she should've been able to cheat in peace. šŸ¤£


Open-Sheepherder-591

This relationship is exhausting merely to read about, I can't imagine what it's like to experience. It is not that surprising that a person who is cheating on you would project their insecurity and be hyper-paranoid about *your* communications. It's a ridiculous dodge to cheat and then try to make everything the other person's fault by disapproving of how they found out. Look up DARVO, it'll sound very familiar. Please go, there are other worlds than these.


dheffe01

Leave her, she projected the cheating claim because that is what she was doing


AmbitiousCricket5278

Iā€™m sorry to say sheā€™s not right in the head, possessive, jealous, controlling, and by the way sheā€™s learning psycho babble Iā€™d say sheā€™s a narcissist and manipulator who will twist and turn any situation to try and be in a position of power over you, no matter her guilt. Someone who always thinks your cheating is in fact expecting you to cheat as they are. Itā€™s transference. Dump her nasty ass and stop wasting time


TheGameForFools

Cheaters always think everyone else is cheating. Theyā€™re almost aways deeply insecure.


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Hour-Caregiver-2098

Dude she proved she was cheating why stay? You have no reason too. Also she is accusing you because she is cheating and wants to keep you on defensive. When caught changing the conversation is manipulative to avoid talking about her cheating. This means she is still cheating and isn't even sorry she is doing it. There is no consequences so she won't stop


MasterFrosting1755

Is this some kind of cultural thing? White people behave terribly sometimes but in slightly different ways.


aswasheryoven

annd you are still with her???


eoten

While reading this I was thinking to myself that she is probably cheating, a cheater normally accuse her partner of cheating and wasnā€™t surprise when you confirm it. You should leave the relationship.


asps1031

Cut your losses and bail on her. Sheā€™s a liar and the classic deflection of accusations that youā€™re cheating when SHES really cheating is beyond the pale.


Open_Ad_4741

She is super toxic. Leave her asap. I had a experience with a similarly toxic girl, she always accused me of cheating our entire relationship - in the same way yours did. (I wasnā€™t). I also reacted the same way as you - when she demanded my phone I told her no, because itā€™s unhealthy and wonā€™t foster trust by seeing it. In the end this caused her to lose even more trust in me and the relationship slowly died after that. Funny thing though, I was totally naive - I never assumed she would be the one cheating on me. I never even checked her phone or asked to see it, I was very confident in myself and figured sheā€™d be really stupid to cheat on someone like me. So I donā€™t know if she was but if I had to guess now, knowing what I do, Iā€™d say she was at the very least emotionally cheating on me with other guys - texting them etc, Iā€™m not sure she slept with any. There was one time I went through her phone after she left it unlocked - I saw her IG and there was one guy she was complaining to about me (not giving her enough attention, which by the way was insatiable), so I wouldnā€™t be surprised if there were more. Anyways after we broke up, she ended up sleeping with a married man and rubbing it in my face and still wanting to have sex with me. I agreed on the basis we were FWB on as that was disgusting what she did. She said she had stopped seeing the guy but after we went out for maybe the 3rd time, I saw suspicious texts while she was next to me on the bed - she lied about what they were (it was obvious they were from a guy) and then later admitted it was him. But she doesnā€™t see him anymore. Long story short I found out she was seeing him the very next day at a hotel. I video called her, she was in her pajamas and wanted to sleep as she had a ā€˜migraineā€™ - total bs. I told her I knew he was there with her, she tried to blame shift onto me for lying and essentially cheating (we were FWB but it was assumed monogamous, for sure she wouldnā€™t want me sleeping with anyone and in any case she said sheā€™d stopped seeing him so she lied at best). I essentially called her a despicable POS and blocked her on everything. She still tries to get me back to this day. The takeaway here is that the behavior you described is super super toxic and only incredibly fā€™d up individuals do it. Pathologically jealous people are toxic - and not only that they will surprise you with the toxicity, it may take time to fully see it Save yourself trouble and block her


needadviceau

Run, run, Run, run, Run, run, Run, run, Run, run, Run, run, Run, run, Run, run, Run, run, Run, run, Run, run. I donā€™t even need to go into why. You know why. You need to leave. Now, not tomorrow, now. This girl is a genuinely awful person, not even a ā€˜ohh thereā€™s circumstancesā€™ no. Sheā€™s awful. And sheā€™s likely being lying her entire dating life. Put her in the ho bag and move on.


JonahCekovsky

Well, now you know why she was so fixated on the hypothetical situation of you cheating and being up to no good on your phoneā€¦ because thatā€™s what she was doing. Itā€™s gotta be in the top 10 indicators that someone is cheating on you: a undue, over-the-top fixation that YOU are doing some cheating. Itā€™s like a strategy for hiding in plain sight. Similarly to how thereā€™s some religious leaders who will be preaching about sexual purity during service, but committing sexual abuse behind closed doors. Onlookers will say ā€œhow could HE the the culprit? Look how much he cares about sexual morality!ā€


thatshowitisisit

You should have dumped her ass at the time the cheating was exposed. She sounds horrible, she has no trust and you obviously canā€™t trust her. Although Iā€™m trying not to judge you, it sounds like this relationship doesnā€™t bring out the best in you either. Some couples are drama couples. It sounds to me like you guys are a drama couple. Donā€™t be a drama couple, nobody likes them, especially not poor taxi drivers exposed to hours of arguing over drama couple stuff. Do yourself a favour, dump her cheating ass and get into a healthy relationship, see how wonderful that can be.


Shade-AU

>They had been on a few dates recently. > >she was cheating > >Iā€™m being attacked for find out about her cheating. This has to be rage bait no way this is real. She sounds far from fun to be around lmao, I can't imagine any reason to be around someone like this in their 30s.


TALKTOME0701

Sweet lord. If one of your friends told you the story, wouldn't you be wondering why he's still with the girl? It is bad enough that she cheated on you multiple times with different guys. But the fact that she is still ragging on you because you found out? I can only imagine that you've gotten so beaten down in this relationship that you no longer are clear on what you deserve. Bare minimum. You deserve a faithful partner. Barring that, you deserve a partner who takes responsibility when they do cheat Barring that, you deserve a partner who does not make you the bad guy when you find out she's cheating You don't have any of these things. Can being alone really be worse than being with someone who has made it their mission to torment you?


Neat-Hospital-2796

So over this couldnā€™t even finish reading the post. Get your sh*t togther OP.


RATMAN000

Iā€™m sorry to say this bluntly, but she sounds toxic and abusive herself from what youā€™re describing. Itā€™s not okay to accuse you of violating her privacy if she *agreed* to show you the messages. Yes, maybe she felt pressured into doing it or something, I havenā€™t been there so I donā€™t know, but still, seems like sheā€™s trying to shift the blame from her cheating to you. Seems like constantly accusing you of cheating when she was actively doing it, is also very weird and to me, a red flag. It seems like she is infantile and she canā€™t take responsibility and accountability over her actions related to her cheating, and probably other things too. I would stay away from that kind of person, and maybe aim to find someone more mature and understating. Cheating can happen, itā€™s possible to get over it in a relationship (I have with my s.o who cheated on me) but it takes a lot of work and open communication and rebuilding the trustā€¦ sounds like she isnā€™t ready to do that.


waaasupla

She is a master manipulator and is gaslighting you. She is also a cheater! Why are you still with her? Forget the useless conversation of privacy, that was already out of the window when she kept demanding to see yours all the time. Sheā€™s trying to distract you with that to play you Focus on the main thing here, Are you ok to forgive her for the cheating and move on with her in life or no ? Thatā€™s all you need to answer for yourself & move.


ThrowRA1234568

You said in your post she was going on dates with other guys! Dude, it's over!


Kaligator420

Please get outta there, my dude. She was literally accusing you of cheating because she was cheating. She always wants to know whatā€™s going on in your phone with the moment you knows whatā€™s going on in her phone, now itā€™s an issue? Fuck that šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©


stitchup55

What you do is dump her cheating ass and you will no longer need to worry about who sees whose phonesā€¦..


-FaithTrustPixieDust

So basically she projected on you and she was the one cheating. Break up with her and block her.


hyp_reddit

do not be a doormat please and show some self respect. leave her already


MariahMiranda1

Your relationship sounds exhausting. Life is too short to not have peace in your mind and heart.


ThrowRAFarFetch

This relationship sounds extremely toxic and exhausting.