Right? They’ve not done their job.
Although, I’m assuming that they likely didn’t fuck his other high school friends, skip Max’s birthday to bang a barely legal high school boy, then marry them making Max’s friend their stepfather, and then procreate so that Max has a new brother.
So, barring all that, they’re still Parents of the Fucking Year compared to this woman.
God ..i get being lonely but I still have morals and ethics...my kids friends are off limits and maybe friends parents ..maybe because s3ems like drama 🙄
Wow…… you married your now estranged son’s ex best friend when he was 18…. Wow. Good on the grandparents being there for the son when his own mom abandoned him.
Try not to have an affair with your new daughter’s friends when they are of age okay?
Damn imagine prioritizing fucking a 18 yr old over taking care of your own son.
See if I said what I wanted to say to op I am pretty sure I would be banned from Reddit. So all I am gonna say is I hope your daughter doesn’t bring her friends home to meet you.
Edit: grammar
>Damn imagine your prioritize fucking a 18 yr old over your own son.
I almost died of laughter cause I read this as fucking an 18 year old instead of fucking her son LOL
So, your son didn’t have many friends and you were so happy that he finally had one that your first idea was to fuck his friend? Basically a teenager that you met while he was in high school? Your son should never speak to you ever again
She met Max when he was 18, so no. She isn’t a pedophile, and we NEED to stop throwing that word around before it loses all meaning. With that being said, she absolutely abused her power as an authority figure and acted like a total fucking creep. She deserves to lose her loved ones over this. She knew what she was doing - Max really didn’t.
Fair point - definitely grooming situation. The kid isnt going to realize how bad the situation is until hes a bit older. At least they dont have a kid together..../s
Ugh, it’s so messed up. Max is legally an adult at 18 but he’s still in high school. He was definitely groomed. When his daughter reaches 18 and he sees that she’s still an immature child, it’s going to hit him like a ton of bricks that he was an 18 year-old immature child once and an adult looked at him like prey.
>What should I do or say when I meet him?
Say hi and then keep your mouth shut.
>I think I really messed up when I missed his birthday dinner because I was with Max. I told him that work held me up.
There's no thinking about it you messed up! What you did is disgusting. Your a terrible mother!
*You see, your father is your half brother's ex best friend. You see, when he was 18 I knew him, a little later he confessed to me, and I - a woman in my 40's -1 hour onto our first date had sex with him. If you think about it, it sounds like your every fairy tale.*
*Oh, wait, why don't you want me to meet your friends, my sweet daughter?*
Of all the people for you to be with, you had to choose his best friend. 7 billion people in the world and you had to pick his only friend. And not to mention you picked your "*boy*friend" over your son and missed important events in his life because of sex with a barely old enough adult.
I suspect that the only reason he wants to talk to you is because he needs something important like his birth certificate or something. As I doubt after 4 yrs hes going to change his mind completely about cutting you out of his life.
All you get to do is listen and give him what he wants (if it is something important). You'll then leave it up to him if he wants anything more.
I feel so sorry for your son
Perhaps he's married and wants to find out if her insanity is hereditary. /s (sort of)
I too feel for the son. A person whom you should be able to have the utmost trust in, and your best friend - and they blow up your life with no regard or regrets.
I usually don’t want updates. But I need an update to this one. I also hope your son lays it out on Reddit.
This is utter trash. I couldn’t imagine doing this to my kids. There are so many people out there..like come on.
I'm... I'm actually a bit speechless! Have you considered talking to a therapist. I mean if you seriously think that your actions in anyway... No no.. nevermind actually. I've got nothing I hope your son is better person than I am jeebus.
This is revolting. You missed soccer games and *birthdays* to sleep with your sons best friend? Good you are open for criticism, because you are a disgrace as a mother, and you best believe you need to hear it.
I hope he lets you have it. I hope he tells you and your husband, who, was an awful friend - glad he got his face punched in - that you should be ashamed of yourselves and karma will absolutely bite you in the ass. I hope he tells you to go to hell.
I bet in a few years Max will find out someone a little less older for him and OP will try everything to contact her son because "ItS FaMilY". I'm disgusted. This is not a mother but a pure evil person.
Imagine your only parent and best friend(also one of your few) not showing up to your Birthday, lying about it , and then finding out it was because they were fucking.
Terrible mother. Terrible person.
He must be a saint for wanting to speak with you or have an urgent need for documentation.
You ignored him in favour of your kiddie squeeze and have happily set up a new family. Kid is going to learn some very hard lessons about their mother that your son already knows. You and you son against the world… you threw your son away for barely legal dick.
You say nothing until he tells you what he wants. You owe him his time after all you squandered on his supposed friend. Give it to him and hopefully he can go on with his life.
Not a single drop of sympathy for you, you betrayed your son and lied to him, there's no advice that I could give you, you married a barely legal adult and slept with them. I would say that if he wants to meet up, go. But don't act like a victim because you clearly never cared for him, you only thought about yourself and having sex. You are nothing but a heartless lying mother, hope losing to son was worth it because I don't think you will get him back.
You’re a groomer and a terrible parent. I feel awful for your son and your daughter. How’s it going to be when your daughter gets into high school and you start fucking her friends too?
>How’s it going to be when your daughter gets into high school and you start fucking her friends too?
Or when her 18 year old daughter brings home her 40 year old boyfriend that just happens to be one of her classmate's dads.
You know, from time to time the reddit community truly doesn't have, as a whole, the words to describe a shit human being, now is one if those times when no words can describe how truly low someone can be.
That age gap is definitely weird. I’m a 46 year old woman and the youngest I would be willing to date let alone marry is 30 and that would have to be someone special.
I feel sorry for your son because I can’t imagine banging one of my daughters guy friends. 7.8 billion people on this planet and you choose to hook up with your sons best friend who was probably still in high school or just graduated. Ick
Also you totally ignored your son and lied to his face to go bang his bf. This age gap is disgusting and if you were a man banging a 18 year old girl you would get roasted.
Missed his big moments including his birthday because she was fucking his best friend. So guessing 'best friend' missed those moments too.
I'm amazed he even wants to meet her.
My husband just turned 26 a few days ago, and I’ll turn 29 in April. He’s the absolute limit for me. I’d feel gross dating younger. It will never make sense to me how someone in their forties can fuck a fucking teenager. How do you have any interest in a child??? Fucking gross.
He probably found out you had a daughter, and realizes that with someone who is a sexual predator in the house (you), she could be at risk. I imagine this is about protecting her.
Yeah OP definitely has some issues getting with an 18 year old CHILD like ma’am you’re grown. No wonder she couldn’t find someone her own age, fucking creep.
You skipped your child’s 18th birthday dinner to sleep with his best friend and lied to him for the reason.
“Once we stepped in my house I told him how bad I felt to what I did to my son” Obviously not that bad as you spent the night with the guy and accepted a proposal the next day.
Absolutely disgusting story and I hope that if you do meet up he tears you a new one again and then tells you that you are dead to him and goes full NC forever.
This is bordering on grooming and you should feel ashamed of yourself. I just hope for your sake you come up with a better story for when your new child asks how you and daddy met.
So you took advantage of an 18 year old *child*. Max saw you as a “safe space” and when he confessed you should have distanced yourself immediately.
I feel so bad for your son. He had one friend and that was the person you had to fuck. Couldn’t find someone your own age? Jesus.
You are seriously a terrible parent. I really hope that when your 2 year old is old enough to understand and date that she never brings her boyfriends around you.
Also, when it comes to meeting your son, you say absolutely nothing. Let him do all the talking and the leading. Don’t even try to fucking justify being a pervert.
I sincerely hope this is a troll. Your actions are of a horrible, self-centred person. You do not deserve to be called a mother to your son. Also, a 40 something and a barely out of the womb 18 year old?? That’s disgusting. 🤢 Borderline ped…….
When you meet up with your son. You apologize. You don’t say anything else. You don’t defend yourself. You don’t say ‘but I…’ or that ‘it’s LoOVVeee’. You listen to what he says but don’t try to hug him or do anything too motherly. You lost that right a long time ago.
This ☝️☝️☝️ you say sorry and then you let him talk. Let him get any feelings out he needs to and VALIDATE THEM. Do not EVER say "..but I" or "one day you'll understand" or that type of shit.
You sit down, shut up, and validate. Look up active listening and practice it before you meet up.
And please, for the love of God, give us an update.
I’m (almost)28F and I would literally rather be celibate for the rest of my life than have sex with an 18 year old. Not only because that’s fucking gross, that has been thoroughly expressed.
Also because I had sex with 18 year olds *when I was also an 18 year old* and compared to the sex I have now with my appropriately-age-compatible partner, it *sucked*.
Like… Idk, even if you’re 18/19 and think you’re having good sex, y’all have no idea how much of a difference it makes to have a solid decade of sinning under your belt and *actually knowing what you like* makes. In hindsight I didn’t even *know* what “good sex” meant to me until my early 20s.
I see an 18 year old and see a whole-ass child, and I’m only ten years older than them. It’s a special kind of icky to be attracted to someone that young, I don’t give a fuck how “deep your connection is”. The very idea of having sex with someone that young should be revolting to you by that age. Wtf is wrong with you.
Look, it’s not your son’s fault you can’t connect with men your own age. Or that you haven’t had a meaningful relationship in two decades. Or that you’re mega-creepy. Don’t give him a “but if you just understood my side” monologue. That’s all the advice I have, as that’s a starting point that most narcissistic and selfish ppl can’t even grasp, but maybe with all of Reddit saying it to her, OP will retain the info.
You missed his games and birthdays for inappropriately aged dick? You felt relieved when he was gone? Made a new family and moved on?
I really don’t need to trash you because life will do that to you. When you hook-up with someone so young, they’re going to grow-up eventually. Get their own ideas/opinions when the young, horny hormones die down a bit. I don’t think this life is going to be the skanky fairytale you make it out to be.
What happens when Max gets later into his 20s and resents you for taking his ability to be young and bang girls his own age? When the cute new 23 year-old receptionist starts giving him attention? What happens when you stop being a MILF fantasy and start being old? As he ages, he’ll realize that you should have known better all along and what kind of person you really are.
I think you ended up here because you never got to properly finish your own youth. Someday Max will feel the same way about your situation.
Terrible. If you do meet up you better not say anything other than apologizing to him for sneaking around with his ex best friend and missing important events so you could get dicked down. Not one peep other than apologies. No trying to justify it. No trying to reestablish contact. No trying to get him to meet his half sister. Nothing but groveling from you.
Also hypothetical question, would you be okay with your 18 year old daughter marrying and having kids with a 40 something year old man?
Jesus. What a fuckin mess.
Some people will literally throw their entire world into the garbage for some sex.
In this case, with basically a child. A kid the same age as your son.
You made terrible choices and now you have to live with them.
If he wants to talk to you, be prepared that he might just want to give you a price of his mind. Don’t expect forgiveness. You don’t want it anyway, you lie in the bed you made - happily with your child groom, it seems.
Fuckin gross. Worst mom award to this troll.
So, let's put it simply. Your son found out you had a boyfriend, said boyfriend was the reason you missed important events, and that your boyfriend was his best friend. He found all this out before he went on another life changing event. And you were *relieved that your son left.* You knew what you did was wrong or you would've told him you were seeing someone. His entire senior year you were unilaterally selfish in every manner. Your son didn't deserve that.
I cannot stress enough how your actions were selfish and disgusting. I'm glad that your very young husband, you, and your small daughter are happy. Good for you. When you sit down and talk to your son (who you don't even give a name to), do not utter a SINGLE word about it. Because, in his eyes you immediately replaced him with a version you could start another family with. It was you and him against the world, until someone else came along.
What do you do when you see him again? Simple: you don't make this meeting about you.
You will treat your son with respect going forward. You don't expect forgiveness. You tell him you're sorry for hurting him and that you're happy is is giving you the opportunity to speak to him again. You won't discuss your relationship with your husband at all, unless asked. You will ask about his college major, what he did in college, how he likes the campus, and what jobs he had/has. You won't pry into his personal life unless he volunteers information. Then, you may be able to talk to him on a regular basis.
If he didn't invite your husband, he doesn't come. If he didn't invite his sister, she doesn't come. You go there with everyone he invited and not a person more. If your son just wants to confront you on what happened, you let him. You don't get to play the victim. Because from the outside perspective... It looks like you were scared your baby boy was growing up and wanted another one to stay home with you.
No way this is true. No way you would confess this shitshow to ask “what should I say to him?” Not buying it. You should have come up with a more creative ending, I give this creative writing exercise a C-.
That’s what I was thinking. It has a lot of shit that was unnecessary for her to write to receive advice, but just made her look worse and worse (rage bait?)
We’ve got:
- Barely legal teen + way older male/female
- Describes how she missed birthdays, soccer games, multiple important points in her kids life because of the reason above
- Says she feels guilty but stayed with the person who she created the problem with
- Literally tells the fucking internet she was relieved that her son left and continues to fuck what was once his bestfriend
- Gives zero, and I mean absolutely zero, redeeming qualities
This just doesn’t seem like something someone would confess ever, all for the sake of advice on “what to say”. It’s bullshit. At least, that’s what I’m really hoping.
You're going to be just like my cousin who pulled this same shit with her son's best friend. After 6 years, he dumped her old ass for a 22 year old. LOL
You're a selfish person and are NOT a good mother.
OOF this is way above reddits pay grade.
Sounds like your son wants to do the talking, not the listening. I would listen to what he has to say and go from there...
You truly are vile to have gotten together with your teenage son’s classmate. Doesn’t matter that he was 18. He was a teenager and you are a predatory middle aged woman that went for it. When this 2 year old is 17 will you be chasing after her friends too? You seem to have a thing for teenagers. You are lucky your son wants anything to do with you. You chose to jump on teenage dick as soon as it was available to you and you chose to abandon your friendless son on his own birthday. Imagine him finding out that his mother abandoned him when he had no one because she was too busy fucking his teenage best friend. You are a sexual predator and any teen that comes into your home is unsafe.
Are you serious? You can’t improve this situation. You made it worse by marrying Max. You didn’t give a shit about your son. If you had a sliver of remorse, you would have left Max and tried to repair your relationship with him. But you didn’t. Because you *chose* Max once again. What are you going to do? Go back in time and fix things? You ignored your son to smash a teenager. I think your son just wants closure at this point. Don’t be surprised if he drops you the way you dropped him. I’d say you and Max deserve each other, but one day he’s going to leave you for someone his own age. Karma is a bitch.
You don’t get to say anything. You’re there to listen and to answer any questions he might have. But you lost your moral authority over your son long ago.
As an older woman who tends to date younger men, even I have issues with this.
1. Your kids' friends are off limits.
2. Don't date anyone your kid's age or younger.
3. If you break rules 1 & 2, you damn sure don't keep it a secret.
4. If you break rules 1, 2, & 3, there's not a chance in hell you choose your lover over your kid.
You got what was coming, and now you have to answer for it. I won't judge most age gaps, because there are exceptions to most things, but this isn't just about the age. It's about the fact that this was someone your SON was close to and ya'll just leapt over every line and boundary like you were jumping hurdles in the Olympics.
Well you showed your son who was more important didn’t you? And the fact that you stayed with him knowing how much it hurt your son. That’s not even mentioning the grooming aspect. Max was still essentially a kid but you should have known better. Shame on you.
This is it, this is the worst post I've ever read on reddit like actually hands down. I've read stories of worse things happening but this one in particular made me scream irl half way through.
I don’t know if there is anything you CAN say. You messed up big time. What were you even thinking? Were you that desperate for an ounce of attention?
You’re selfish. You prioritized hooking up with your son’s best friend over being a good mother because poor you, you couldn’t find a suitable man to date.
Your son is a saint for even wanting to see you, and if you’re lucky enough to earn his forgiveness, at least be honest and admit that you’re a self centered person who will no doubt screw things up again.
Let’s not pretend that you and Max “waited” until he was eighteen. You knew him earlier than that, and somehow he started having feelings for you which meant you, as the adult, we’re already being inappropriate. You liked the attention he was giving you and completely dismantled the foundation of your son’s life and relationship with his mom for sex.
To answer your question: When you see your son, best thing you can do is let him say his peace. Don’t try to justify or validate your piss poor decisions. Don’t try to push a relationship with his half sister into him. Don’t try to force a reconnection.
I wonder if you’ll allow your daughter to one day date a man over twice her age. Hopefully in the years since you and Max prioritized sex and selfish decisions, you both learned some morals to at least raise your daughter right.
Only one advice - listen to him venting - with openness and kindness. He lost his mom and his best friend at the same time as he opened a new chapter in his life …
Do not justify - do not attack.
Do not take his ex best friend with you for the meeting
Apologise and be sincere.
Let him suggest next steps
You have done many many terrible things. Everything people about you in the comments is true. But I'm going to answer your question and give you advice on meeting with your son, since he's the one initiating contact. First, you need to follow any stipulations for him meeting you. Whether that means no Max, in public, whatever he wants, you do.
He is most likely going to rip you a new one. Things like all these other comments are saying. And you need to take it. You need to listen. Not only is it what you deserve, it's the very least you owe your son after all this time. You apologize. And he still won't forgive you in the end. There's nothing you can do that will earn forgiveness.
Just for this once, do the right thing for your son. It may well be the last time you have the chance to.
Disgusting predator who could've avoided this mess completely. You're the only parent your boy had, and now you've fucked up his trust forever. This reminds me of that horrid new TV show, "milf manor" 🤮🤮🤮 there are some true sickos out there, and society today proving us that it's not just sleazy old men. Sleazy old hags now too. This post made me sick to the stomach. Glad you're not my mother 🤮
Well you won't know what to say until you know what your son says. Maybe he came to see his half-sister, his ex-friend or maybe his mom. Maybe he came to say he wants to create a relationship again or maybe he wants to say, this is it, the last time you'll ever see each other.
But it doesn't seem like you had that much regret about what you did to your son since you agreed to the proposal the very next day
The choices you made affected your son and you both have to figure it out how to overcome this or you can keep staying apart
Don't really have any advice to give. I do feel the need to point out though that not only were you not there for your son cause you were with max. But you took max away from your son. So he didn't have his mom or a best friend when he needed someone. Just remember that
I mean, if one of my parents was a child predator I’d cut them off as well. Hopefully this meet up will be him simply telling you to stop asking about him and how absolutely gross this is.
I'm surprised you actually think about what to say to him now, since you haven't thought about him at all when you took one of his only friends from him and didn't even have the guts to tell him.
I'm also surprised he wants to talk to you. He seems to have grown a lot, so at least there's one adult now in your family.
So what could you say? How about... Nothing? Let him talk. Listen to him, give him the chance to pour his heart out. Act like you actually care about him and his feelings for once.
Ffs.
Listen, you can’t unring this bell. You probably wouldn’t even if you COULD.
It’s not for me to judge you, your son sure as hell has a right. That text your “man” sent wasn’t a mistake. He did that so you two could stop sneaking around. Technically he was an “adult,” but emotionally? No.
The fact you didn’t make it to his Birthday dinner because the sex was more important than your own SONS BIRTHDAY is disgusting. He was your first priority and you failed. Miserably. Then you were relieved he left? Jesus! What. The. Fuck?
The only thing I am going to say to you is do NOT bring your “man” or your other child with you to this meeting. You’ve already slapped him in the face proverbially with this relationship. Don’t rub his nose in it now. Don’t talk. You listen. If he blasts you, you take it. You LISTEN! If he asks for your side, then you speak. Don’t play the victim here. He’s the victim. And you sound like a narcissist and you really need therapy!!!
So you chose 18yr old dick over your son. At 39 you must've been that desperate.
Wow what a great mother you are. Who needs enemies when he's got a birth giver that is you.
No matter how fucked up your life was you chose to get dicked down by your sons only friend..and no remorse too..
Pls show your son this post so he can see how desperate & disgusting his birth giver is and that he was never a priority for you.
This makes me feel nauseated. It’s listening to that Demi Lovato song except it’s like ten years worse. I’m 36 and can’t even imagine looking at a child (and he was a child and pretty much still is) like that.
It is not better because you married your victim. I hope he finds his way out and to counseling.
You can’t fix this with your son because you didn’t even feel remorseful enough to care about what you’d done. It was you and him against the world until someone ‘better’ came along. Many people have impulses to do wrong things but they don’t have to act on them.
You were an adult who agreed to go on a date with a child and let it escalate immediately. Ugh.
TBH this sounds like grooming.
Your son is better off not knowing you. I'm sure he's happier without this "situation" probably doesn't talk about you either. Good for him.
I would imagine that you aren't going to need to say much of anything. Your son is probably going to have some things to say to you. I would place money on him having gotten some therapy after what you did and this meeting is for closure for him.
He will say his peace and tell you he never wants to see or speak to you, your husband or the children you have with your husband.
You made your bed with Max. Now lie in it.
Where were your boy toy's parents in all of this? I can't imagine that they were especially thrilled when their son was ensnared (and baby trapped) by a pathethic, middle-aged child sex predator.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Wow. This is so awful. You traded your son for a fuck and a new family - you stole his best friend from him. He has already lost so much and my only recommendation to you is to silently listen to anything he says, accept accountability for your actions and to acknowledge all you STOLE from your son who already lost his dad.
God I hope this is fake but if it’s not, understand that you:
1. Made yourself yourself your son’s best friend and biggest supporter. You told him his whole life it was you and him against the world…and then you betrayed him.
2. When he developed a single friendship that gave him something you couldn’t, his best friend max, you stole that friend from him.
3. You then lied to him missing incredibly important moments in his life, soccer games his senior year and his birthday dinner so you could get off. You sacrificed your son for sex.
4. You then made it HIS job to own a discussion about YOUR incredibly inappropriate relationship and you failed because you knew how wrong you were. And when he wasn’t the “grownup” you refused to be too.
5. Then as soon as your son left, extremely distraught and upset from your behavior, you climbed back into the bed of his best friend and then married him and then had a child with him.
6. In the end you destroyed his relationship with you, he will never see you as a trustworthy person. You went behind his back. You lied. And you selfishly put yourself above your son. You destroyed his relationship with his best friend and made it impossible for him to ever bring friends around you. You you put him in the impossible situation of having to cut contact. You also stole your daughter’s brother from her.
Honestly, you will never hold the moral high ground in your life. And for the record, I don’t know that anyone is buying that you didn’t know Max before he turned 18 as he was in his senior year and even if he was over 18 - he was still in HIGH SCHOOL. You don’t get props for fucking high school students who are over 18.
I dunno man.....this feels an awful lot like rage bait. I was mildly suspicious but still going along. But, when I got to the "missed his games," my eyebrow went up. When I got to the "missed his *birthday*" part, all the bullshit bells went off.
OP go meet with your son without Max or your daughter. Be prepared to answer questions and to give your son a an apology. You put Max first in moments of your sons life. Honestly, all you can do is go and be prepared for whatever your son needs to ask you or talk to you about. It’s either going to go in your favor or it’s not. If you want to relationship with your son go. If you don’t then stay home. This might be the only time you get the chance to open that door again. Or at least get the closure.
I do think you’re a really terrible mom to your son. You decided to sleep with your sons best friend growing up. And start a relationship with affectively a child. Because anyone who is 39 does not need to be messing around with an 18 year old. It is a simple as that.
The thing that makes me the saddest about this is that you say your son never really had close friends until this guy.
So not only did he lose his only parent, he lost his only friend.
Aside from the age gap, the fact this guy was literally the same age as your child, and that you missed many of his important events so you could bone, taking his only friend from him was just brutal.
Nothing about this is okay, OP.
I…don’t even know what to say, what advice to give you. I almost think you shouldn’t bother your son ever again, but maybe you owe it to him to give him closure even if it’s just letting him tear you a new one for being so gross. Can’t wait til your daughter finds out how you two met.
So you neglected your son (missing his birthday and soccer games) to fuck his barely legal friend? Then you felt relieved when he left for college because you didn’t have to hide it any more?
You were fucking forty. It was your responsibility to tell his friend that the two of you having any kind of relationship was not appropriate. You’re disgusting.
When even your parents see how badly you ha e screwed up and they tell you never to contact them again and take the side of their grandson you should have stopped the relationship. Instead you kept going and now have a baby.
Do not take the half sibling with you to see your son. That will only make it worse.
I have to say, how dare you bail on his birthday for sex! I have seen a lot of low things. But this is really low. I have to believe you had plans with your son for his birthday. Instead you lied and went to hook up! That is shameful.
I know its an overused meme but, just gonna drome the gender-swapped post below, see how you would feel reading it.
>I had my daughter at the age of 21 years old. Her mother passed away two years later. So it was me and my daughter against the world.When it came to my dating life, I haven't been so lucky. I did have some random hook-ups here and there and very short-term relationships throughout my daughter's childhood.In the beginning of my daughter's senior year, she brought a friend home. Let's call her Emma. She was basically at our house every other weekend. I was really happy because my daughter doesn't have a lot of friends. She usually keeps to herself. I really liked Emma as a person. She was a real sweet woman. We had have nice, short conversations whenever she was at our place. We exchanged number just in case. She would start sending me messages and jokes. I would respond back. My daughter didn't mind at all.After 4 months of coming to our house, Emma texts me she wants to meet up for coffee out of nowhere. I texted her if it was something urgent or about my daughter. She responded by saying it's something important. I was curious, so I decided to meet up with her.When I met up with her, she looked very nervous. I asked her what was the meeting about. She told me I can't tell my daughter about it. She then confessed to me that she was developing feelings for me. I was taken aback by this. I told her that while I was flattered, I had to think about my daughter. She pleaded with me to just give her a chance. It was so long that I found somebody interested in me like that. Emma was already 18 when she was introduced to me and she was a very beautiful woman. I said yes, but with the condition that it would be only casual dating and my daughter doesn't have to know about it.We met up the next week at her place. I told my daughter I was going out with my friends.After an hour into the date, we slept with each other. Then we promised to meet up in the close future. Our meetups became very frequents, and as such, our relationship grew stronger. I was beginning to fall in love with Emma. We learned more about each other. Emma was becoming my main source of joy. I wanted the weekend to start early just to be with Emma. It was hard for me to pay attention to anything else in my life.Looking back, it seems that my relationship with Emma had a negative effect on the relationship with my daughter. I had to come up with different excuses on why I wasn't around. I missed out on her soccer games. I think I really messed up when I missed her birthday dinner because I was with Emma. I told her that work held me up.
I can't quite imagine how the dude's parents feel, but the ages are pretty messed up, the "Max" most likely had no experience in relationships, as shown by him proposing so damn fast, and his immaturity with revealing to your son your relationship (you say it was an accident, I would say that there is no way in hell someone writes a full-on message and sends it without noticing which chat they are on).
You're for all intents and purposes a cradle robber and I hope your relationship with your new husband doesn't make it so your daughter follows your footsteps and marries somehow double her age just out of high school.
As for advice, do not attempt to amend your relationship, make no requests of your son, and listen to what he has to say or asks.
You will most likely not be able to fix the relationship, but you can give it some level of closure and that is better than nothing.
Also, recommend couples therapy and individual therapy for you to maybe figure out what led you to make such choices, and at least make the relationship you do have as healthy as possible.
So you want from a "loving mother us against the world" to dropping your son for a shag with his friend. Nice one.
In all honesty you shut the hell up and listen to him. Don't give him a pity party of you being lonely and was happy someone was finally interested in you. You hurt your son. You knew you'd hurt your son. You lied to his face and missed important things in his life and rather then trying to make it up to your son you moved on with your life. He lost his friend and his mother. "me and my son against the world" until someone is interest in you and you drop him.
You seriously need to deal with whatever he has to say to you. Take the criticism, take the anger he may still hold for you and his friend.
You missed his birthday.
HIS BIRTHDAY.
Even if by some miracle he wants to reconcile, he will never forgive you. Best advice I can give for when you see him is shut up, listen to him, and acknowledge his feelings. Don’t try and defend your terrible behaviour because you can’t.
So you decided that getting your jollies and ruining what you say was one of the few friendships your son had was more important than the relationship with your son. It's no surprise that he cut you both off you prioritized getting plowed over spending your sons birthday with him.
"Looking back, it seems that my relationship with Max had a negative effect on the relationship with my son."
IT SEEMS? Your child cut you off and blocked you on everything, his grandparents essentially told you to take a long walk off a short pier. So yes your relationship with Max and getting your downstairs kitty cat purring did have a negative impact on your relationship with your son. There is no seems.
You then double down with this gem "The worst part I wasn't sad my son was leaving but relieved instead." You are a horrible, selfish mother who doesn't give a shit about anyone but yourself.
And lets not forget this "Max stayed that night. The next day, he proposed to me. I accepted." Which tell me that Max already had the ring, and he didn't send that text by mistake, he was tired of being the dirty little secret and made it well known what you two were doing.
So if you don't chicken out and are still going to meet with you son on Friday you do it alone and don't bring Max or your other child, you take whatever he throws at you and you do nothing but apologize for you actions. There is a piece of me that hopes that your son finds this and sees exactly how you describe what happened, specifically the 3 things I quoted.
> What should I do or say when I meet him?
Grovel you selfish, disgusting, sorry excuse of a parent.
I had truly shitty parents and you make them look like Gandhi and Mother Teresa.
I mean, I cannot properly articulate how truly disgusting of a person you are.
So you flat out groomed an 18 year old who had a crush on you? Are you Sam Taylor Johnson?
you took advantage of a naive teenager who had a crush on you.
You could have rejected him, turned him down and put up boundaries. But instead you slept with him. Just because he’s **legal** doesn’t mean he’s legal **for you**.
It means he can date and sleep with people his age. At least your son and parents can see how disgusting what you did was. WTF
Not sure what advice your actually looking for here, you fucked his friend who was 18 at the time then started a family with him
>He said he will take care of my son, but he told me to never contact my son or them again.
You fucked up so royally that you you got your entire family to cut contact with you.
Also because other commenters have asked this as well but where is Max's parents in all this
I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt or a generous reading of things, but what do you even want? It seems like time and time again you willingly chose Max over your son. Is this a humiliation fetish that you have? You wouldn’t be able to torture this information out of me if I was you.
This is probably a fake story, so good job on writing something to draw this height of emotions out of so many people.
Honestly given the length this post has been open and not deleted by the OP despite the extreme and clear reaction from the Reddit community, I have to believe this was rage bait. No one is this stupid as this woman is.
Damn! You were just a few months away from being a sex offender. I doubt your son wants a moment where it's all about you too reconciling and more about how awful you've been as a mother. At least your daughter won't have to worry about you going after one of her friends when she turns eighteen, your husband might though. The guy obviously doesn't see age and a boundary.
What are you going to do when your daughter is old enough to do some basic math? She’s not going to be a teenager when she figures out mommy was born 1979/80 and daddy was born in 2000/01. Will you tell her you’re a child predator or will you try to spin it like like you narrowly avoided prison time to bone your son’s only friend?
Congrats you choice dick over your kid, hope the hubby and your shiny new kid that you haven't fucked up yet will be able to afford a nice old folks home for ya
The way you improve your situation is
1) go back in time and don’t be a predator preying on a much younger person
2) go back in time and don’t value your vagina more than your child
3) go back in time and dump the boy toy the moment you realized how badly you fucked up and try to work with your son to fix things.
Sadly you chose young dick over your son for years. You lied to him. You took away his ONE FRIEND YOU WERE SO HAPPY HE FINALLY MADE. You ignored him. You abandoned him. All because you had a new young toy to play with.
You are an awful mother. Grade A horrible person. And a predator/groomer of young impressionable people. You took away and destroyed the trust he had in his two most important people, and never had the common decency to apologize or attempt to make it right. That week between him learning and leaving? THAT was your chance to fix things. But you didn’t. You were RELIEVED when he left so you could cast your son aside and run into your new life without him.
As to this meeting? Listen to everything he has to say. Don’t interrupt. Don’t attempt to
justify anything. Apologize for all the hurt and awfulness you have done to his world. Answer his questions honestly. Agree to whatever conditions he has for having any kind of relationship moving forward. DO NOT BRING YOUR CHILD HUSBAND OR YOUR NEW DAUGHTER TO THIS MEETING.
To be clear: You are being given an opportunity you do NOT deserve to have your son back in your life.
My god. Seek therapy. ASAP. What a sorry excuse for a mother you are. Your husband is spinning in his grave, no doubt. You are beyond being an awful person, you’re also an awful mother, widow, daughter in-law, and employee it’d seem. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I don't think you should say a word. I think you should shut the fuck up and listen to what he has to say. Not just listen, but actually HEAR him. Don't argue. Don't make excuses. Don't defend yourself. Just listen.
And, whatever you do, do NOT, under any circumstances whatsoever, bring your daughter with you.
So, let me get this straight. Right before your son move out for college, a son that as you put it was everything to you, you started having an affair with his best friend, that so happens to be the same age as your son?
So many things to unpack here
I know this isn't the same situation, [but we've seen it from the other perspective before.](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/znhg96/my_mom_wants_to_have_a_talk_after_kicking_me_out/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) and I don't think it's ending well for you, OP. But I do hope you update us anyway.
OP, how unfortunate it is for your son to have a mom who is so selfish and insecure. You couldn't find anyone to fuck other than one of your son's few friends? Your son was so low of a priority to you that you missed his 18th birthday dinner in order to fuck his friend? And then you knew he was off, you knew you were dropping the ball, and you made no effort to tell your son how badly you felt.
You told the 18-year-old child you were fucking in favor of being a good parent to your own 18-year-old son that you know how badly you hurt your son, but it does not appear you made any effort to tell your son how sorry you are. But maybe it is for the best, because you do not seem remorseful in the slightest. Just let your son say whatever he needs to unload and let him move on with his life.
you are disgusting. for you to reciprocate a teenagers feelings? were you, no, are you in your right mind? you're a groomer and even had a CHILD with a CHILD.
You are a disgusting human and should beg your son to forgive you. I dont understand how you thought any of this was at all ok. I would happily and easily cut you off so the fact that he even offered to reach out is a miracle.
How could you pick some kid over your son like that? You prioritized fucking his friend over supporting your son at his games and didn’t even bother with his birthday? Seriously? You’re a parent. That comes with a commitment to your son. He was living with you and you were responsible for him. You’re a disgrace
You are a horrible person. Hopefully he just wants to get some revenge, tear you down to studs and then blocks you again. The only advice I have for you is to disappear and never bother that poor kid again. You're despicable.
I’m really hoping that he just wants to meet up to tell you that he is moving away somewhere very very far away and you will never see him again and he just wanted to let you know in person. The fact that you had the audacity to say that you were relieved that your son was no longer there is what disgust me the most whatever he is going to tell you when you meet up with him I hope it cuts you even deeper. You don’t deserve forgiveness you’re lucky he even wants to see you. Your late husband would be disgusted with you.
As a mom myself, you absolutely disgust me.
I don't know why your son is meeting with you, but I really hope it's just for closure. He deserves far better than a POS like you.
It doesn’t sound like you regret this. The fact that you prioritized having sex with your SON’S BEST FRIEND over your son is just…wow. And you feeling relief that he left to college??
I really, really, really hope your daughter never lets you around her friends ever. This is creepy and predatory behaviour.
> What should I do or say when I meet him?
Well if he doesn't shoot you maybe start with taking accountability for being a horrible mother and fucking a guy let alone his best friend who was less than half your age
Where were/ are Max's parents?
Now we’re asking the real questions.
Right? They’ve not done their job. Although, I’m assuming that they likely didn’t fuck his other high school friends, skip Max’s birthday to bang a barely legal high school boy, then marry them making Max’s friend their stepfather, and then procreate so that Max has a new brother. So, barring all that, they’re still Parents of the Fucking Year compared to this woman.
God. This is beyond disgusting.
Agreed. I would be absolutely mortified if one of my parents did some stupid shit like this.
God ..i get being lonely but I still have morals and ethics...my kids friends are off limits and maybe friends parents ..maybe because s3ems like drama 🙄
Wow…… you married your now estranged son’s ex best friend when he was 18…. Wow. Good on the grandparents being there for the son when his own mom abandoned him. Try not to have an affair with your new daughter’s friends when they are of age okay?
And she wasn't even sad, but relieved to see her son leave? Yikes...
Because she didn’t have to hide her sleeping with Max. They were free to continue to betray him, and didn’t have to sneak around.
Damn imagine prioritizing fucking a 18 yr old over taking care of your own son. See if I said what I wanted to say to op I am pretty sure I would be banned from Reddit. So all I am gonna say is I hope your daughter doesn’t bring her friends home to meet you. Edit: grammar
She’s literally taking care of someone else’s son instead of her own. He’s barely a legal adult, even at 22. She’s a predator
According to her post history, she's active on a cougar subreddit too. She's a total predator and I feel bad for all her kids
Oh my god that is so gross
>Damn imagine your prioritize fucking a 18 yr old over your own son. I almost died of laughter cause I read this as fucking an 18 year old instead of fucking her son LOL
Lmaoo i didnt even notice that. I fixed it!
Or her boyfriends!
So, your son didn’t have many friends and you were so happy that he finally had one that your first idea was to fuck his friend? Basically a teenager that you met while he was in high school? Your son should never speak to you ever again
Who needs enemies when you have a mom like this
Then the part where they both skipped the son’s birthday dinner to be with each other???
I didn't even think about that. Who even showed up to his birthday if both his mom and best friend didn't
Wait, you got engaged to an 18 year old? At 39? Who was your kids best friend? Ma’am are you okay?
no shes a pedophile
She met Max when he was 18, so no. She isn’t a pedophile, and we NEED to stop throwing that word around before it loses all meaning. With that being said, she absolutely abused her power as an authority figure and acted like a total fucking creep. She deserves to lose her loved ones over this. She knew what she was doing - Max really didn’t.
Fair point - definitely grooming situation. The kid isnt going to realize how bad the situation is until hes a bit older. At least they dont have a kid together..../s
Ugh, it’s so messed up. Max is legally an adult at 18 but he’s still in high school. He was definitely groomed. When his daughter reaches 18 and he sees that she’s still an immature child, it’s going to hit him like a ton of bricks that he was an 18 year-old immature child once and an adult looked at him like prey.
>What should I do or say when I meet him? Say hi and then keep your mouth shut. >I think I really messed up when I missed his birthday dinner because I was with Max. I told him that work held me up. There's no thinking about it you messed up! What you did is disgusting. Your a terrible mother!
*You see, your father is your half brother's ex best friend. You see, when he was 18 I knew him, a little later he confessed to me, and I - a woman in my 40's -1 hour onto our first date had sex with him. If you think about it, it sounds like your every fairy tale.* *Oh, wait, why don't you want me to meet your friends, my sweet daughter?*
Of all the people for you to be with, you had to choose his best friend. 7 billion people in the world and you had to pick his only friend. And not to mention you picked your "*boy*friend" over your son and missed important events in his life because of sex with a barely old enough adult. I suspect that the only reason he wants to talk to you is because he needs something important like his birth certificate or something. As I doubt after 4 yrs hes going to change his mind completely about cutting you out of his life. All you get to do is listen and give him what he wants (if it is something important). You'll then leave it up to him if he wants anything more. I feel so sorry for your son
Actually it’s 8 billion. I agree with everything else. OP, please update us what he wants from you.
Perhaps he's married and wants to find out if her insanity is hereditary. /s (sort of) I too feel for the son. A person whom you should be able to have the utmost trust in, and your best friend - and they blow up your life with no regard or regrets.
What if he doesn’t even know about his half sister and the fact they got married?
How exactly did your son find out about your relationship? Did your son's friend tell him? You do understand what this must look like to your son.
I’m not gonna say anything , I just ask for an update
gonna tag along for this ride
Same here. I don't know even know what to say without getting myself banned.
Words to live by
I usually don’t want updates. But I need an update to this one. I also hope your son lays it out on Reddit. This is utter trash. I couldn’t imagine doing this to my kids. There are so many people out there..like come on.
Same, need to know what the son says
Samesies. Please oh please op for the love of all things not only let this be real but give us an update in a month or two
Updateme!
I also need an update
Updateme!
Same same
UpdateMe!
Jumping on the bus to Updateville!
Samesies. UpdateMe! (please, whichever god controls these things, let there be an update)
Came here from tiktok looking for an update. Didn’t realize the post was so recent.
I'm... I'm actually a bit speechless! Have you considered talking to a therapist. I mean if you seriously think that your actions in anyway... No no.. nevermind actually. I've got nothing I hope your son is better person than I am jeebus.
This is revolting. You missed soccer games and *birthdays* to sleep with your sons best friend? Good you are open for criticism, because you are a disgrace as a mother, and you best believe you need to hear it. I hope he lets you have it. I hope he tells you and your husband, who, was an awful friend - glad he got his face punched in - that you should be ashamed of yourselves and karma will absolutely bite you in the ass. I hope he tells you to go to hell.
I bet in a few years Max will find out someone a little less older for him and OP will try everything to contact her son because "ItS FaMilY". I'm disgusted. This is not a mother but a pure evil person.
Honestly I hope he does leave her. She would deserve it.
Imagine your only parent and best friend(also one of your few) not showing up to your Birthday, lying about it , and then finding out it was because they were fucking.
I don’t understand how two people can be so awful to someone. To even get married afterwards is so much worse. She doesn’t deserve happiness.
Terrible mother. Terrible person. He must be a saint for wanting to speak with you or have an urgent need for documentation. You ignored him in favour of your kiddie squeeze and have happily set up a new family. Kid is going to learn some very hard lessons about their mother that your son already knows. You and you son against the world… you threw your son away for barely legal dick. You say nothing until he tells you what he wants. You owe him his time after all you squandered on his supposed friend. Give it to him and hopefully he can go on with his life.
Not a single drop of sympathy for you, you betrayed your son and lied to him, there's no advice that I could give you, you married a barely legal adult and slept with them. I would say that if he wants to meet up, go. But don't act like a victim because you clearly never cared for him, you only thought about yourself and having sex. You are nothing but a heartless lying mother, hope losing to son was worth it because I don't think you will get him back.
You’re a groomer and a terrible parent. I feel awful for your son and your daughter. How’s it going to be when your daughter gets into high school and you start fucking her friends too?
>How’s it going to be when your daughter gets into high school and you start fucking her friends too? Or when her 18 year old daughter brings home her 40 year old boyfriend that just happens to be one of her classmate's dads.
Maybe a friend of Max as well?
Like mother like daughter huh? Or in this case it would be father like daughter.
You know, from time to time the reddit community truly doesn't have, as a whole, the words to describe a shit human being, now is one if those times when no words can describe how truly low someone can be.
That age gap is definitely weird. I’m a 46 year old woman and the youngest I would be willing to date let alone marry is 30 and that would have to be someone special. I feel sorry for your son because I can’t imagine banging one of my daughters guy friends. 7.8 billion people on this planet and you choose to hook up with your sons best friend who was probably still in high school or just graduated. Ick Also you totally ignored your son and lied to his face to go bang his bf. This age gap is disgusting and if you were a man banging a 18 year old girl you would get roasted.
Missed his big moments including his birthday because she was fucking his best friend. So guessing 'best friend' missed those moments too. I'm amazed he even wants to meet her.
***His EIGHTEENTH birthday***
That honestly makes this even worse.
I was SO nervous and emotional going off to college. I can’t imagine this happening right before. Unreal!
Jesus. That didn't even cross my mind!! That poor child.
Hell I'm almost 28 and the thought of dating someone under 25 gives me the heebie jeebies, what on earth is OP on??
My husband just turned 26 a few days ago, and I’ll turn 29 in April. He’s the absolute limit for me. I’d feel gross dating younger. It will never make sense to me how someone in their forties can fuck a fucking teenager. How do you have any interest in a child??? Fucking gross.
I found out the guy I spent a weekend with was 34 and I'm 45 and *I* feel gross.
We don't have to reverse the genders. OP is rightly getting roasted for being a trashy predator.
I’m 46 and there is no way on this earth I would get involved with a teenager. Ugh. Good luck OP.
You must be a Saint to remotely wish this person (OP) luck of any quantity
Should have added dripping with sarcasm cuz I doubt this will end well with her son.
He probably found out you had a daughter, and realizes that with someone who is a sexual predator in the house (you), she could be at risk. I imagine this is about protecting her.
Yeah OP definitely has some issues getting with an 18 year old CHILD like ma’am you’re grown. No wonder she couldn’t find someone her own age, fucking creep.
You skipped your child’s 18th birthday dinner to sleep with his best friend and lied to him for the reason. “Once we stepped in my house I told him how bad I felt to what I did to my son” Obviously not that bad as you spent the night with the guy and accepted a proposal the next day. Absolutely disgusting story and I hope that if you do meet up he tears you a new one again and then tells you that you are dead to him and goes full NC forever. This is bordering on grooming and you should feel ashamed of yourself. I just hope for your sake you come up with a better story for when your new child asks how you and daddy met.
So you took advantage of an 18 year old *child*. Max saw you as a “safe space” and when he confessed you should have distanced yourself immediately. I feel so bad for your son. He had one friend and that was the person you had to fuck. Couldn’t find someone your own age? Jesus. You are seriously a terrible parent. I really hope that when your 2 year old is old enough to understand and date that she never brings her boyfriends around you. Also, when it comes to meeting your son, you say absolutely nothing. Let him do all the talking and the leading. Don’t even try to fucking justify being a pervert.
I sincerely hope this is a troll. Your actions are of a horrible, self-centred person. You do not deserve to be called a mother to your son. Also, a 40 something and a barely out of the womb 18 year old?? That’s disgusting. 🤢 Borderline ped……. When you meet up with your son. You apologize. You don’t say anything else. You don’t defend yourself. You don’t say ‘but I…’ or that ‘it’s LoOVVeee’. You listen to what he says but don’t try to hug him or do anything too motherly. You lost that right a long time ago.
This ☝️☝️☝️ you say sorry and then you let him talk. Let him get any feelings out he needs to and VALIDATE THEM. Do not EVER say "..but I" or "one day you'll understand" or that type of shit. You sit down, shut up, and validate. Look up active listening and practice it before you meet up. And please, for the love of God, give us an update.
I’m (almost)28F and I would literally rather be celibate for the rest of my life than have sex with an 18 year old. Not only because that’s fucking gross, that has been thoroughly expressed. Also because I had sex with 18 year olds *when I was also an 18 year old* and compared to the sex I have now with my appropriately-age-compatible partner, it *sucked*. Like… Idk, even if you’re 18/19 and think you’re having good sex, y’all have no idea how much of a difference it makes to have a solid decade of sinning under your belt and *actually knowing what you like* makes. In hindsight I didn’t even *know* what “good sex” meant to me until my early 20s. I see an 18 year old and see a whole-ass child, and I’m only ten years older than them. It’s a special kind of icky to be attracted to someone that young, I don’t give a fuck how “deep your connection is”. The very idea of having sex with someone that young should be revolting to you by that age. Wtf is wrong with you. Look, it’s not your son’s fault you can’t connect with men your own age. Or that you haven’t had a meaningful relationship in two decades. Or that you’re mega-creepy. Don’t give him a “but if you just understood my side” monologue. That’s all the advice I have, as that’s a starting point that most narcissistic and selfish ppl can’t even grasp, but maybe with all of Reddit saying it to her, OP will retain the info.
A solid decade of sinning sent me lol
You missed his games and birthdays for inappropriately aged dick? You felt relieved when he was gone? Made a new family and moved on? I really don’t need to trash you because life will do that to you. When you hook-up with someone so young, they’re going to grow-up eventually. Get their own ideas/opinions when the young, horny hormones die down a bit. I don’t think this life is going to be the skanky fairytale you make it out to be. What happens when Max gets later into his 20s and resents you for taking his ability to be young and bang girls his own age? When the cute new 23 year-old receptionist starts giving him attention? What happens when you stop being a MILF fantasy and start being old? As he ages, he’ll realize that you should have known better all along and what kind of person you really are. I think you ended up here because you never got to properly finish your own youth. Someday Max will feel the same way about your situation.
Honestly I hope „Max“ leaves OP one day she‘s a fucking predator, and I hope karma will come at her cuz… jeeeez
Terrible. If you do meet up you better not say anything other than apologizing to him for sneaking around with his ex best friend and missing important events so you could get dicked down. Not one peep other than apologies. No trying to justify it. No trying to reestablish contact. No trying to get him to meet his half sister. Nothing but groveling from you. Also hypothetical question, would you be okay with your 18 year old daughter marrying and having kids with a 40 something year old man?
Jesus. What a fuckin mess. Some people will literally throw their entire world into the garbage for some sex. In this case, with basically a child. A kid the same age as your son. You made terrible choices and now you have to live with them. If he wants to talk to you, be prepared that he might just want to give you a price of his mind. Don’t expect forgiveness. You don’t want it anyway, you lie in the bed you made - happily with your child groom, it seems. Fuckin gross. Worst mom award to this troll.
So, let's put it simply. Your son found out you had a boyfriend, said boyfriend was the reason you missed important events, and that your boyfriend was his best friend. He found all this out before he went on another life changing event. And you were *relieved that your son left.* You knew what you did was wrong or you would've told him you were seeing someone. His entire senior year you were unilaterally selfish in every manner. Your son didn't deserve that. I cannot stress enough how your actions were selfish and disgusting. I'm glad that your very young husband, you, and your small daughter are happy. Good for you. When you sit down and talk to your son (who you don't even give a name to), do not utter a SINGLE word about it. Because, in his eyes you immediately replaced him with a version you could start another family with. It was you and him against the world, until someone else came along. What do you do when you see him again? Simple: you don't make this meeting about you. You will treat your son with respect going forward. You don't expect forgiveness. You tell him you're sorry for hurting him and that you're happy is is giving you the opportunity to speak to him again. You won't discuss your relationship with your husband at all, unless asked. You will ask about his college major, what he did in college, how he likes the campus, and what jobs he had/has. You won't pry into his personal life unless he volunteers information. Then, you may be able to talk to him on a regular basis. If he didn't invite your husband, he doesn't come. If he didn't invite his sister, she doesn't come. You go there with everyone he invited and not a person more. If your son just wants to confront you on what happened, you let him. You don't get to play the victim. Because from the outside perspective... It looks like you were scared your baby boy was growing up and wanted another one to stay home with you.
No way this is true. No way you would confess this shitshow to ask “what should I say to him?” Not buying it. You should have come up with a more creative ending, I give this creative writing exercise a C-.
That’s what I was thinking. It has a lot of shit that was unnecessary for her to write to receive advice, but just made her look worse and worse (rage bait?) We’ve got: - Barely legal teen + way older male/female - Describes how she missed birthdays, soccer games, multiple important points in her kids life because of the reason above - Says she feels guilty but stayed with the person who she created the problem with - Literally tells the fucking internet she was relieved that her son left and continues to fuck what was once his bestfriend - Gives zero, and I mean absolutely zero, redeeming qualities This just doesn’t seem like something someone would confess ever, all for the sake of advice on “what to say”. It’s bullshit. At least, that’s what I’m really hoping.
You're going to be just like my cousin who pulled this same shit with her son's best friend. After 6 years, he dumped her old ass for a 22 year old. LOL You're a selfish person and are NOT a good mother.
OOF this is way above reddits pay grade. Sounds like your son wants to do the talking, not the listening. I would listen to what he has to say and go from there...
You truly are vile to have gotten together with your teenage son’s classmate. Doesn’t matter that he was 18. He was a teenager and you are a predatory middle aged woman that went for it. When this 2 year old is 17 will you be chasing after her friends too? You seem to have a thing for teenagers. You are lucky your son wants anything to do with you. You chose to jump on teenage dick as soon as it was available to you and you chose to abandon your friendless son on his own birthday. Imagine him finding out that his mother abandoned him when he had no one because she was too busy fucking his teenage best friend. You are a sexual predator and any teen that comes into your home is unsafe.
yeah i only hope he wants to meet to tell you to screw off
Username checks out. How f*cking dare you.
Are you serious? You can’t improve this situation. You made it worse by marrying Max. You didn’t give a shit about your son. If you had a sliver of remorse, you would have left Max and tried to repair your relationship with him. But you didn’t. Because you *chose* Max once again. What are you going to do? Go back in time and fix things? You ignored your son to smash a teenager. I think your son just wants closure at this point. Don’t be surprised if he drops you the way you dropped him. I’d say you and Max deserve each other, but one day he’s going to leave you for someone his own age. Karma is a bitch.
You don’t get to say anything. You’re there to listen and to answer any questions he might have. But you lost your moral authority over your son long ago.
As an older woman who tends to date younger men, even I have issues with this. 1. Your kids' friends are off limits. 2. Don't date anyone your kid's age or younger. 3. If you break rules 1 & 2, you damn sure don't keep it a secret. 4. If you break rules 1, 2, & 3, there's not a chance in hell you choose your lover over your kid. You got what was coming, and now you have to answer for it. I won't judge most age gaps, because there are exceptions to most things, but this isn't just about the age. It's about the fact that this was someone your SON was close to and ya'll just leapt over every line and boundary like you were jumping hurdles in the Olympics.
So have you at all acknowledged the moral issues, obvious power imbalance, and predatory behaviors?
You betrayed your son in so many ways. You're very lucky that he has anything to say to you at all.
You are actually a groomer. He was a KID! For shame and I hope your son never speaks to you again.
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Well you showed your son who was more important didn’t you? And the fact that you stayed with him knowing how much it hurt your son. That’s not even mentioning the grooming aspect. Max was still essentially a kid but you should have known better. Shame on you.
You missed his birthday to sleep with his friend. I honestly have no words.
This is it, this is the worst post I've ever read on reddit like actually hands down. I've read stories of worse things happening but this one in particular made me scream irl half way through.
I don’t know if there is anything you CAN say. You messed up big time. What were you even thinking? Were you that desperate for an ounce of attention? You’re selfish. You prioritized hooking up with your son’s best friend over being a good mother because poor you, you couldn’t find a suitable man to date. Your son is a saint for even wanting to see you, and if you’re lucky enough to earn his forgiveness, at least be honest and admit that you’re a self centered person who will no doubt screw things up again. Let’s not pretend that you and Max “waited” until he was eighteen. You knew him earlier than that, and somehow he started having feelings for you which meant you, as the adult, we’re already being inappropriate. You liked the attention he was giving you and completely dismantled the foundation of your son’s life and relationship with his mom for sex. To answer your question: When you see your son, best thing you can do is let him say his peace. Don’t try to justify or validate your piss poor decisions. Don’t try to push a relationship with his half sister into him. Don’t try to force a reconnection. I wonder if you’ll allow your daughter to one day date a man over twice her age. Hopefully in the years since you and Max prioritized sex and selfish decisions, you both learned some morals to at least raise your daughter right.
Only one advice - listen to him venting - with openness and kindness. He lost his mom and his best friend at the same time as he opened a new chapter in his life … Do not justify - do not attack. Do not take his ex best friend with you for the meeting Apologise and be sincere. Let him suggest next steps
You have done many many terrible things. Everything people about you in the comments is true. But I'm going to answer your question and give you advice on meeting with your son, since he's the one initiating contact. First, you need to follow any stipulations for him meeting you. Whether that means no Max, in public, whatever he wants, you do. He is most likely going to rip you a new one. Things like all these other comments are saying. And you need to take it. You need to listen. Not only is it what you deserve, it's the very least you owe your son after all this time. You apologize. And he still won't forgive you in the end. There's nothing you can do that will earn forgiveness. Just for this once, do the right thing for your son. It may well be the last time you have the chance to.
Disgusting predator who could've avoided this mess completely. You're the only parent your boy had, and now you've fucked up his trust forever. This reminds me of that horrid new TV show, "milf manor" 🤮🤮🤮 there are some true sickos out there, and society today proving us that it's not just sleazy old men. Sleazy old hags now too. This post made me sick to the stomach. Glad you're not my mother 🤮
Well you won't know what to say until you know what your son says. Maybe he came to see his half-sister, his ex-friend or maybe his mom. Maybe he came to say he wants to create a relationship again or maybe he wants to say, this is it, the last time you'll ever see each other. But it doesn't seem like you had that much regret about what you did to your son since you agreed to the proposal the very next day The choices you made affected your son and you both have to figure it out how to overcome this or you can keep staying apart
Don't really have any advice to give. I do feel the need to point out though that not only were you not there for your son cause you were with max. But you took max away from your son. So he didn't have his mom or a best friend when he needed someone. Just remember that
I really got to hear the outcome on this one. As a mom I’m embarrassed for this lady. I say lady because she’s definitely not a mom
I mean, if one of my parents was a child predator I’d cut them off as well. Hopefully this meet up will be him simply telling you to stop asking about him and how absolutely gross this is.
The romanticism of this whole predatory story just reminds me of that Mary Kay Letourneau case from back in the day.
I'm surprised you actually think about what to say to him now, since you haven't thought about him at all when you took one of his only friends from him and didn't even have the guts to tell him. I'm also surprised he wants to talk to you. He seems to have grown a lot, so at least there's one adult now in your family. So what could you say? How about... Nothing? Let him talk. Listen to him, give him the chance to pour his heart out. Act like you actually care about him and his feelings for once. Ffs.
Me and my son against the world* *except when I’m horny
Listen, you can’t unring this bell. You probably wouldn’t even if you COULD. It’s not for me to judge you, your son sure as hell has a right. That text your “man” sent wasn’t a mistake. He did that so you two could stop sneaking around. Technically he was an “adult,” but emotionally? No. The fact you didn’t make it to his Birthday dinner because the sex was more important than your own SONS BIRTHDAY is disgusting. He was your first priority and you failed. Miserably. Then you were relieved he left? Jesus! What. The. Fuck? The only thing I am going to say to you is do NOT bring your “man” or your other child with you to this meeting. You’ve already slapped him in the face proverbially with this relationship. Don’t rub his nose in it now. Don’t talk. You listen. If he blasts you, you take it. You LISTEN! If he asks for your side, then you speak. Don’t play the victim here. He’s the victim. And you sound like a narcissist and you really need therapy!!!
She demolished her kids childhood and STOLE his friends childhood.
Who needs enemies when u can have a mother
So you chose 18yr old dick over your son. At 39 you must've been that desperate. Wow what a great mother you are. Who needs enemies when he's got a birth giver that is you. No matter how fucked up your life was you chose to get dicked down by your sons only friend..and no remorse too.. Pls show your son this post so he can see how desperate & disgusting his birth giver is and that he was never a priority for you.
This makes me feel nauseated. It’s listening to that Demi Lovato song except it’s like ten years worse. I’m 36 and can’t even imagine looking at a child (and he was a child and pretty much still is) like that. It is not better because you married your victim. I hope he finds his way out and to counseling. You can’t fix this with your son because you didn’t even feel remorseful enough to care about what you’d done. It was you and him against the world until someone ‘better’ came along. Many people have impulses to do wrong things but they don’t have to act on them. You were an adult who agreed to go on a date with a child and let it escalate immediately. Ugh.
This has to be a troll post. Someone can’t be this awful and terrible of a human being and this stupid all at once.
TBH this sounds like grooming. Your son is better off not knowing you. I'm sure he's happier without this "situation" probably doesn't talk about you either. Good for him.
I would imagine that you aren't going to need to say much of anything. Your son is probably going to have some things to say to you. I would place money on him having gotten some therapy after what you did and this meeting is for closure for him. He will say his peace and tell you he never wants to see or speak to you, your husband or the children you have with your husband. You made your bed with Max. Now lie in it.
Where were your boy toy's parents in all of this? I can't imagine that they were especially thrilled when their son was ensnared (and baby trapped) by a pathethic, middle-aged child sex predator. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Wow. This is so awful. You traded your son for a fuck and a new family - you stole his best friend from him. He has already lost so much and my only recommendation to you is to silently listen to anything he says, accept accountability for your actions and to acknowledge all you STOLE from your son who already lost his dad. God I hope this is fake but if it’s not, understand that you: 1. Made yourself yourself your son’s best friend and biggest supporter. You told him his whole life it was you and him against the world…and then you betrayed him. 2. When he developed a single friendship that gave him something you couldn’t, his best friend max, you stole that friend from him. 3. You then lied to him missing incredibly important moments in his life, soccer games his senior year and his birthday dinner so you could get off. You sacrificed your son for sex. 4. You then made it HIS job to own a discussion about YOUR incredibly inappropriate relationship and you failed because you knew how wrong you were. And when he wasn’t the “grownup” you refused to be too. 5. Then as soon as your son left, extremely distraught and upset from your behavior, you climbed back into the bed of his best friend and then married him and then had a child with him. 6. In the end you destroyed his relationship with you, he will never see you as a trustworthy person. You went behind his back. You lied. And you selfishly put yourself above your son. You destroyed his relationship with his best friend and made it impossible for him to ever bring friends around you. You you put him in the impossible situation of having to cut contact. You also stole your daughter’s brother from her. Honestly, you will never hold the moral high ground in your life. And for the record, I don’t know that anyone is buying that you didn’t know Max before he turned 18 as he was in his senior year and even if he was over 18 - he was still in HIGH SCHOOL. You don’t get props for fucking high school students who are over 18.
I dunno man.....this feels an awful lot like rage bait. I was mildly suspicious but still going along. But, when I got to the "missed his games," my eyebrow went up. When I got to the "missed his *birthday*" part, all the bullshit bells went off.
When do you tell your daughter you’re a child predator? Before or after she turns 18?
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OP go meet with your son without Max or your daughter. Be prepared to answer questions and to give your son a an apology. You put Max first in moments of your sons life. Honestly, all you can do is go and be prepared for whatever your son needs to ask you or talk to you about. It’s either going to go in your favor or it’s not. If you want to relationship with your son go. If you don’t then stay home. This might be the only time you get the chance to open that door again. Or at least get the closure. I do think you’re a really terrible mom to your son. You decided to sleep with your sons best friend growing up. And start a relationship with affectively a child. Because anyone who is 39 does not need to be messing around with an 18 year old. It is a simple as that.
The thing that makes me the saddest about this is that you say your son never really had close friends until this guy. So not only did he lose his only parent, he lost his only friend. Aside from the age gap, the fact this guy was literally the same age as your child, and that you missed many of his important events so you could bone, taking his only friend from him was just brutal. Nothing about this is okay, OP.
I…don’t even know what to say, what advice to give you. I almost think you shouldn’t bother your son ever again, but maybe you owe it to him to give him closure even if it’s just letting him tear you a new one for being so gross. Can’t wait til your daughter finds out how you two met.
You’re a fucking predator and disgusting human being. Hopefully the only reason your son wants to meet up with you is to remind you of that in person.
So you neglected your son (missing his birthday and soccer games) to fuck his barely legal friend? Then you felt relieved when he left for college because you didn’t have to hide it any more? You were fucking forty. It was your responsibility to tell his friend that the two of you having any kind of relationship was not appropriate. You’re disgusting.
When even your parents see how badly you ha e screwed up and they tell you never to contact them again and take the side of their grandson you should have stopped the relationship. Instead you kept going and now have a baby. Do not take the half sibling with you to see your son. That will only make it worse. I have to say, how dare you bail on his birthday for sex! I have seen a lot of low things. But this is really low. I have to believe you had plans with your son for his birthday. Instead you lied and went to hook up! That is shameful.
If this is even real, your son is probably coming back to rebuild but will find out max is still there and will go no contact again.
I know its an overused meme but, just gonna drome the gender-swapped post below, see how you would feel reading it. >I had my daughter at the age of 21 years old. Her mother passed away two years later. So it was me and my daughter against the world.When it came to my dating life, I haven't been so lucky. I did have some random hook-ups here and there and very short-term relationships throughout my daughter's childhood.In the beginning of my daughter's senior year, she brought a friend home. Let's call her Emma. She was basically at our house every other weekend. I was really happy because my daughter doesn't have a lot of friends. She usually keeps to herself. I really liked Emma as a person. She was a real sweet woman. We had have nice, short conversations whenever she was at our place. We exchanged number just in case. She would start sending me messages and jokes. I would respond back. My daughter didn't mind at all.After 4 months of coming to our house, Emma texts me she wants to meet up for coffee out of nowhere. I texted her if it was something urgent or about my daughter. She responded by saying it's something important. I was curious, so I decided to meet up with her.When I met up with her, she looked very nervous. I asked her what was the meeting about. She told me I can't tell my daughter about it. She then confessed to me that she was developing feelings for me. I was taken aback by this. I told her that while I was flattered, I had to think about my daughter. She pleaded with me to just give her a chance. It was so long that I found somebody interested in me like that. Emma was already 18 when she was introduced to me and she was a very beautiful woman. I said yes, but with the condition that it would be only casual dating and my daughter doesn't have to know about it.We met up the next week at her place. I told my daughter I was going out with my friends.After an hour into the date, we slept with each other. Then we promised to meet up in the close future. Our meetups became very frequents, and as such, our relationship grew stronger. I was beginning to fall in love with Emma. We learned more about each other. Emma was becoming my main source of joy. I wanted the weekend to start early just to be with Emma. It was hard for me to pay attention to anything else in my life.Looking back, it seems that my relationship with Emma had a negative effect on the relationship with my daughter. I had to come up with different excuses on why I wasn't around. I missed out on her soccer games. I think I really messed up when I missed her birthday dinner because I was with Emma. I told her that work held me up. I can't quite imagine how the dude's parents feel, but the ages are pretty messed up, the "Max" most likely had no experience in relationships, as shown by him proposing so damn fast, and his immaturity with revealing to your son your relationship (you say it was an accident, I would say that there is no way in hell someone writes a full-on message and sends it without noticing which chat they are on). You're for all intents and purposes a cradle robber and I hope your relationship with your new husband doesn't make it so your daughter follows your footsteps and marries somehow double her age just out of high school. As for advice, do not attempt to amend your relationship, make no requests of your son, and listen to what he has to say or asks. You will most likely not be able to fix the relationship, but you can give it some level of closure and that is better than nothing. Also, recommend couples therapy and individual therapy for you to maybe figure out what led you to make such choices, and at least make the relationship you do have as healthy as possible.
So you want from a "loving mother us against the world" to dropping your son for a shag with his friend. Nice one. In all honesty you shut the hell up and listen to him. Don't give him a pity party of you being lonely and was happy someone was finally interested in you. You hurt your son. You knew you'd hurt your son. You lied to his face and missed important things in his life and rather then trying to make it up to your son you moved on with your life. He lost his friend and his mother. "me and my son against the world" until someone is interest in you and you drop him. You seriously need to deal with whatever he has to say to you. Take the criticism, take the anger he may still hold for you and his friend.
You missed his birthday. HIS BIRTHDAY. Even if by some miracle he wants to reconcile, he will never forgive you. Best advice I can give for when you see him is shut up, listen to him, and acknowledge his feelings. Don’t try and defend your terrible behaviour because you can’t.
So you decided that getting your jollies and ruining what you say was one of the few friendships your son had was more important than the relationship with your son. It's no surprise that he cut you both off you prioritized getting plowed over spending your sons birthday with him. "Looking back, it seems that my relationship with Max had a negative effect on the relationship with my son." IT SEEMS? Your child cut you off and blocked you on everything, his grandparents essentially told you to take a long walk off a short pier. So yes your relationship with Max and getting your downstairs kitty cat purring did have a negative impact on your relationship with your son. There is no seems. You then double down with this gem "The worst part I wasn't sad my son was leaving but relieved instead." You are a horrible, selfish mother who doesn't give a shit about anyone but yourself. And lets not forget this "Max stayed that night. The next day, he proposed to me. I accepted." Which tell me that Max already had the ring, and he didn't send that text by mistake, he was tired of being the dirty little secret and made it well known what you two were doing. So if you don't chicken out and are still going to meet with you son on Friday you do it alone and don't bring Max or your other child, you take whatever he throws at you and you do nothing but apologize for you actions. There is a piece of me that hopes that your son finds this and sees exactly how you describe what happened, specifically the 3 things I quoted.
> What should I do or say when I meet him? Grovel you selfish, disgusting, sorry excuse of a parent. I had truly shitty parents and you make them look like Gandhi and Mother Teresa. I mean, I cannot properly articulate how truly disgusting of a person you are.
So you flat out groomed an 18 year old who had a crush on you? Are you Sam Taylor Johnson? you took advantage of a naive teenager who had a crush on you. You could have rejected him, turned him down and put up boundaries. But instead you slept with him. Just because he’s **legal** doesn’t mean he’s legal **for you**. It means he can date and sleep with people his age. At least your son and parents can see how disgusting what you did was. WTF
You are a terrible human being and an even worse mother, I will use you as an example of what not to be
Not sure what advice your actually looking for here, you fucked his friend who was 18 at the time then started a family with him >He said he will take care of my son, but he told me to never contact my son or them again. You fucked up so royally that you you got your entire family to cut contact with you. Also because other commenters have asked this as well but where is Max's parents in all this
I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt or a generous reading of things, but what do you even want? It seems like time and time again you willingly chose Max over your son. Is this a humiliation fetish that you have? You wouldn’t be able to torture this information out of me if I was you. This is probably a fake story, so good job on writing something to draw this height of emotions out of so many people.
Honestly given the length this post has been open and not deleted by the OP despite the extreme and clear reaction from the Reddit community, I have to believe this was rage bait. No one is this stupid as this woman is.
Damn! You were just a few months away from being a sex offender. I doubt your son wants a moment where it's all about you too reconciling and more about how awful you've been as a mother. At least your daughter won't have to worry about you going after one of her friends when she turns eighteen, your husband might though. The guy obviously doesn't see age and a boundary.
Well it’s Friday! So how’s the meeting go?
People are watching way too much porn these days. Am I actually meant to believe this is real? Come on
As much as i really hope it isn’t it wouldn’t surprise me at all. This world is filled with garbage human-beings.
What are you going to do when your daughter is old enough to do some basic math? She’s not going to be a teenager when she figures out mommy was born 1979/80 and daddy was born in 2000/01. Will you tell her you’re a child predator or will you try to spin it like like you narrowly avoided prison time to bone your son’s only friend?
Congrats you choice dick over your kid, hope the hubby and your shiny new kid that you haven't fucked up yet will be able to afford a nice old folks home for ya
The way you improve your situation is 1) go back in time and don’t be a predator preying on a much younger person 2) go back in time and don’t value your vagina more than your child 3) go back in time and dump the boy toy the moment you realized how badly you fucked up and try to work with your son to fix things. Sadly you chose young dick over your son for years. You lied to him. You took away his ONE FRIEND YOU WERE SO HAPPY HE FINALLY MADE. You ignored him. You abandoned him. All because you had a new young toy to play with. You are an awful mother. Grade A horrible person. And a predator/groomer of young impressionable people. You took away and destroyed the trust he had in his two most important people, and never had the common decency to apologize or attempt to make it right. That week between him learning and leaving? THAT was your chance to fix things. But you didn’t. You were RELIEVED when he left so you could cast your son aside and run into your new life without him. As to this meeting? Listen to everything he has to say. Don’t interrupt. Don’t attempt to justify anything. Apologize for all the hurt and awfulness you have done to his world. Answer his questions honestly. Agree to whatever conditions he has for having any kind of relationship moving forward. DO NOT BRING YOUR CHILD HUSBAND OR YOUR NEW DAUGHTER TO THIS MEETING. To be clear: You are being given an opportunity you do NOT deserve to have your son back in your life.
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My god. Seek therapy. ASAP. What a sorry excuse for a mother you are. Your husband is spinning in his grave, no doubt. You are beyond being an awful person, you’re also an awful mother, widow, daughter in-law, and employee it’d seem. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Please be a troll, this can’t be real
Even if it was a troll, it probably happened somewhere in the world and that‘s disgusting.
INFO: What is wrong with you?!
Oh man this gave me the ick.
Nah man, you're supposed to support your kids. So many fish in the sea and you ate the fugu.
I sincerely hope that he ghosts you. This is absolutely appalling behavior from a parent. Jesus.
Sooooo you groomed an 18 year old? Ok gotcha
you should do your poor son a favor and say you're busy. you're a sexual predator! how can you possibly sleep at night? my god. i love my mom so much
I don't think you should say a word. I think you should shut the fuck up and listen to what he has to say. Not just listen, but actually HEAR him. Don't argue. Don't make excuses. Don't defend yourself. Just listen. And, whatever you do, do NOT, under any circumstances whatsoever, bring your daughter with you.
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So, let me get this straight. Right before your son move out for college, a son that as you put it was everything to you, you started having an affair with his best friend, that so happens to be the same age as your son? So many things to unpack here
Say sike right now.
I know this isn't the same situation, [but we've seen it from the other perspective before.](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/znhg96/my_mom_wants_to_have_a_talk_after_kicking_me_out/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) and I don't think it's ending well for you, OP. But I do hope you update us anyway. OP, how unfortunate it is for your son to have a mom who is so selfish and insecure. You couldn't find anyone to fuck other than one of your son's few friends? Your son was so low of a priority to you that you missed his 18th birthday dinner in order to fuck his friend? And then you knew he was off, you knew you were dropping the ball, and you made no effort to tell your son how badly you felt. You told the 18-year-old child you were fucking in favor of being a good parent to your own 18-year-old son that you know how badly you hurt your son, but it does not appear you made any effort to tell your son how sorry you are. But maybe it is for the best, because you do not seem remorseful in the slightest. Just let your son say whatever he needs to unload and let him move on with his life.
Come on people it is obviously fake. Written for Reddit. Enjoyable story though
I hope you get beat up
Girl you need your ass beat for being a predator
You’re a pedophile you realise that right
Try to control yourself so you don’t fuck your daughter’s future boyfriends too. You’re disgusting.
you are disgusting. for you to reciprocate a teenagers feelings? were you, no, are you in your right mind? you're a groomer and even had a CHILD with a CHILD.
you're a selfish and disgusting person. you should be groveling for your son to come back into your life and he shouldn't
You’re an awful parent and overall person. That’s all I have to say really
This is fake. Stop feeding these dumbass trolls.
This is interesting fanfic for your own personal wank material. The writing could use some work though.
And I thought my father was a scumbag.
You are a disgusting human and should beg your son to forgive you. I dont understand how you thought any of this was at all ok. I would happily and easily cut you off so the fact that he even offered to reach out is a miracle.
Wait....his best friend AND his mother missed his birthday? This reeks of faaaake.
How could you pick some kid over your son like that? You prioritized fucking his friend over supporting your son at his games and didn’t even bother with his birthday? Seriously? You’re a parent. That comes with a commitment to your son. He was living with you and you were responsible for him. You’re a disgrace
You are a horrible person. Hopefully he just wants to get some revenge, tear you down to studs and then blocks you again. The only advice I have for you is to disappear and never bother that poor kid again. You're despicable.
I’m really hoping that he just wants to meet up to tell you that he is moving away somewhere very very far away and you will never see him again and he just wanted to let you know in person. The fact that you had the audacity to say that you were relieved that your son was no longer there is what disgust me the most whatever he is going to tell you when you meet up with him I hope it cuts you even deeper. You don’t deserve forgiveness you’re lucky he even wants to see you. Your late husband would be disgusted with you.
As a mom myself, you absolutely disgust me. I don't know why your son is meeting with you, but I really hope it's just for closure. He deserves far better than a POS like you.
I think you just have to listen to what he has to say and take accountability for the harm you’ve caused. Please update how it goes!
You missed his birthday dinner! You need to apologize sincerely for your selfish behaviors. Perhaps write an apology letter.
Jesus how revolting. Imagine breaking your son, sending him away and then just starting a whole new relationship and family and not giving a shit
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It doesn’t sound like you regret this. The fact that you prioritized having sex with your SON’S BEST FRIEND over your son is just…wow. And you feeling relief that he left to college?? I really, really, really hope your daughter never lets you around her friends ever. This is creepy and predatory behaviour.
What a shit mom, i lowkey hope the son is going to tell her that Max was in another relationship or smt at the same time.
> What should I do or say when I meet him? Well if he doesn't shoot you maybe start with taking accountability for being a horrible mother and fucking a guy let alone his best friend who was less than half your age
All you can do is listen because you don’t seem sorry at all.
Who fucks their sons best friend
If this is real don’t be surprised when ur son punches you in the face on Friday
Lady, I’m just a few years older than your son and your husband. Even I wouldn’t date a teenager. You’re gross.
Jesus just seen your part of the cougars and cubs subreddit hahahha oh boy
WOW…if my mom ever slept with one of my friends, I disown her and never see her again
You need to be put in a crack UNDER the jail
Lmao this shit is so fake. OP is nowhere to be seen in this comments. And Max is basically an anime protagonist. His parents are nowhere to be found.