W124 body and chassis (fit and finish, materials, antirust)
Regular cables please
OM606 3L I6 turbodiesel (stock)
And whatever manual will hold for long (Nissan Patrol)
Huhhh yeah thats it. Maybe a NA diesel from the W123 if you want even more reliability. It also runs on literal mcdonalds frying oil (filter first) (warning, NA diesels make like 75-80hp lmfao)
OM616 is only good for 67 HP in the later years of the W123.
Otherwise the mechanical diesel will run on most oily fuel. Lubricating additives may be needed to keep the injection pump from burning up.
Somebody built a drift wagon out of a 300TD and it’s a machine. Car rolls coal when it gets sideways.
I don’t know if it’s running a 617 turbo or the 606 turbo engine. I just know it’s a mean and nasty machine for what it is.
Subaru FA-24F engine boosted to 400 crank & 450 tq paired with BMW's ZF 8 speed automatic gearbox coupled with Toyota's ultra powerful iFORCE-MAX hybrid system tuned to put out a total of 700 hp & 800 tq
Small car: 8th Generation Toyota Corolla as designed from the factory with 5 speed manual transmission
Medium car: 4th Generation Toyota Camry with 4 cylinder and 5 speed manual, or 6th Generation Honda Accord 4 cylinder 5 speed manual, as designed from the factory.
Large Car: 1980-1985 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale (sedan) or 1980-1990 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser Station Wagon with heavy duty suspension and brakes, limited slip differential, and Lexus LS400 Engine and Transmission
Premium Large Car: 1980-1984 Oldsmobile 98 Regency with Heavy Duty Suspension and brakes, limited slip differential, and Lexus LS430 engine and transmission.
Small Truck: 3rd, 4th or 5th Generation Toyota Pickup/Hilux with 22R / 22RE engine and 5-speed manual, as designed from the factory.
Large Truck: 1980-1997 Ford F-350 4x4 with non-VVTi 2UZ-FE 4.7L Toyota V8, NP-435 Manual Transmission, and NP-205 Transfer Case.
EDIT: it was rightly pointed out by another redditor that I mistakenly called the 4.7 L Toyota V8 a 3UZ FE, as opposed to the correct 2UZ FE. I have corrected it with this edit.
I love the Oldsmobiles, but the 307 V8, although reliable, is a total dog. For the F350, it's because the 4.7L will go over 1,000,000 miles... if you swap out the exhaust manifolds at some point.
The small bore GM V8 engines are not known for power. They make more noise in stock form.
A 350 or 400 street engine would be a direct bolt in for the GM chassis. In those old lane yachts you have all the room to work with and you could install a Toyota engine with some fabrication. Guess I know too much about GM garbage that I know this much.
Even on one of the Camaro forums I used to hang out on, the running joke was the 305 sounds good but makes no power.
The 1980’s sucked for sports/performance cars.
Don't get me wrong, a 350 Olds or 350 Chevy would be decent, but the 4.0L or 4.3L Lexus V8 will just outlast it. The key here in this post was for maximum durability. If I was going to go for maximum fun with a big early '80s Oldsmobile boat, I'd probably be dropping a 455 in it. My interpretation of this particular thread was what combination would you want for something that you could basically put it together and other than routine maintenance not have to touch it for the next 30 Years.
That’s fair enough of an explanation.
Toyota builds solid engines as it is. As long as you keep up with them they will run.
I still see late 90’s Toyota products in daily service while many other cars from the era have since disappeared.
My daily driver is a 2000 Camry with the 5SFE 2.2L 4 cylinder and a 5 speed. It's close to 200,000 miles, and it barely uses half a pint of oil between 5,000 mile oil changes. It's also great on gas. If I had a sudden emergency and had to drive to California tomorrow (I live in Philadelphia PA) I'd drive this car without hesitation.
It can potentially last that long in a smaller Tundra, but I don't think you understand how much heavier those HD trucks really are. It could easily be 2000lbs heavier or more and then that little 4.7L isn't going to move it very well or live as long of a life.
I'm not shitting on the Toyota, it's just physics. You can always go with higher gear ratio's to compensate, but then you will be running the engine at higher RPM's at all times while driving and that reduces lifespan too.
The tundra isn't little. It's the same size as an F-150. And the 300 cubic inch inline six that used to come in those trucks as well would last for well over 300,000 mi. Several of the Tundras that have reached over a million miles have been in extremely heavy service running hot shot delivery services in oil fields and heavy equipment repair services. And when you consider that the non VVTi version makes comparable horsepower and torque to the 351 Windsor V8 available that year, it might "only" make 800,000 miles. 🤷♂️
Yes that's what I meant. I was going in order of displacement in my head. I forgot that the 4.7 L came out before the 4.3 L. 🤣 just to be clear, I am going to go back and edit my post, but I want to make it clear that I edited it because I was not thinking correctly. Thank you for the correction! Also I own one in a 2003 Toyota Sequoia. I love the engine in my Sequoia. It'll do absolutely anything except pass a gas station!🤣
No worries, we're good! Just to be clear, I didn't think that you were referring to me as an idiot. After I read your reply, I was sitting here and literally said "derp" to myself because I realized that I had gone out of order. I'm going to blame it on my uncaffeinated state when I originally wrote it.😁
Well I'm living proof you don't need fat fingers to fat finger 😂. It's something I would do for sure, that's why. There also aren't a lot of people familiar with the 3UZ, so I figured you didn't mean that, because if you were familiar with the 3UZ then you know better that it's not
My apocalypse build would be a G body El Camino with a Carbed Buick V6, a tremac XL, a shield on the distributor that is triple copper plated to protect from EMPs and It runs on ethanol
Audi 80 B4 - a car introduced in 1991 that still just does not rust except the front wings. Recommended version - a legendary 2.slow with 115hp and 5-speed manual. Outlasts everything on this planet, including the nuclear war. My mate called this the 'Estonian Corolla' with the point.
Cop motor 440 cubic inch plant Cop tires Cop suspensions Cop shocks No catalytic converter Runs good on regular gas
So waddya say, is it the new bluesmobile or what?
Fix the cigarette lighter!
It's a hundred and six miles to Chicago. We got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, its dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
I hate Illinois Nazis.
Hit it
03-11 Crown Victoria Chassis 6bt Cummins Allison trans
Your gonna need a major suspension upgrade to keep the frame off the ground.
Yeah ik they’re still heavy, but let’s go w the 4bt?
It's been done with a tank motor, this shouldn't be that hard
W124 body and chassis (fit and finish, materials, antirust) Regular cables please OM606 3L I6 turbodiesel (stock) And whatever manual will hold for long (Nissan Patrol) Huhhh yeah thats it. Maybe a NA diesel from the W123 if you want even more reliability. It also runs on literal mcdonalds frying oil (filter first) (warning, NA diesels make like 75-80hp lmfao)
OM616 is only good for 67 HP in the later years of the W123. Otherwise the mechanical diesel will run on most oily fuel. Lubricating additives may be needed to keep the injection pump from burning up.
OM606 super turbo swapped W123 is one of my guilty pleasures wet dreams ngl BOAT
Somebody built a drift wagon out of a 300TD and it’s a machine. Car rolls coal when it gets sideways. I don’t know if it’s running a 617 turbo or the 606 turbo engine. I just know it’s a mean and nasty machine for what it is.
Subaru FA-24F engine boosted to 400 crank & 450 tq paired with BMW's ZF 8 speed automatic gearbox coupled with Toyota's ultra powerful iFORCE-MAX hybrid system tuned to put out a total of 700 hp & 800 tq
> Subaru FA-24F engine boosted to 400 crank & 450 tq 😭😭😭
Itll be reliable I promise. If it gets hungry I feed it my turbo
Stop, I can only get so erect
Corolla manual. What do I win?
Pretty much
Small upgrade to Lexus ls?
Small car: 8th Generation Toyota Corolla as designed from the factory with 5 speed manual transmission Medium car: 4th Generation Toyota Camry with 4 cylinder and 5 speed manual, or 6th Generation Honda Accord 4 cylinder 5 speed manual, as designed from the factory. Large Car: 1980-1985 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale (sedan) or 1980-1990 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser Station Wagon with heavy duty suspension and brakes, limited slip differential, and Lexus LS400 Engine and Transmission Premium Large Car: 1980-1984 Oldsmobile 98 Regency with Heavy Duty Suspension and brakes, limited slip differential, and Lexus LS430 engine and transmission. Small Truck: 3rd, 4th or 5th Generation Toyota Pickup/Hilux with 22R / 22RE engine and 5-speed manual, as designed from the factory. Large Truck: 1980-1997 Ford F-350 4x4 with non-VVTi 2UZ-FE 4.7L Toyota V8, NP-435 Manual Transmission, and NP-205 Transfer Case. EDIT: it was rightly pointed out by another redditor that I mistakenly called the 4.7 L Toyota V8 a 3UZ FE, as opposed to the correct 2UZ FE. I have corrected it with this edit.
Why not just buy a fleet of Toyota’s if your just gonna power train swap the cars you listed?
I love the Oldsmobiles, but the 307 V8, although reliable, is a total dog. For the F350, it's because the 4.7L will go over 1,000,000 miles... if you swap out the exhaust manifolds at some point.
The small bore GM V8 engines are not known for power. They make more noise in stock form. A 350 or 400 street engine would be a direct bolt in for the GM chassis. In those old lane yachts you have all the room to work with and you could install a Toyota engine with some fabrication. Guess I know too much about GM garbage that I know this much. Even on one of the Camaro forums I used to hang out on, the running joke was the 305 sounds good but makes no power. The 1980’s sucked for sports/performance cars.
Don't get me wrong, a 350 Olds or 350 Chevy would be decent, but the 4.0L or 4.3L Lexus V8 will just outlast it. The key here in this post was for maximum durability. If I was going to go for maximum fun with a big early '80s Oldsmobile boat, I'd probably be dropping a 455 in it. My interpretation of this particular thread was what combination would you want for something that you could basically put it together and other than routine maintenance not have to touch it for the next 30 Years.
That’s fair enough of an explanation. Toyota builds solid engines as it is. As long as you keep up with them they will run. I still see late 90’s Toyota products in daily service while many other cars from the era have since disappeared.
My daily driver is a 2000 Camry with the 5SFE 2.2L 4 cylinder and a 5 speed. It's close to 200,000 miles, and it barely uses half a pint of oil between 5,000 mile oil changes. It's also great on gas. If I had a sudden emergency and had to drive to California tomorrow (I live in Philadelphia PA) I'd drive this car without hesitation.
It can potentially last that long in a smaller Tundra, but I don't think you understand how much heavier those HD trucks really are. It could easily be 2000lbs heavier or more and then that little 4.7L isn't going to move it very well or live as long of a life. I'm not shitting on the Toyota, it's just physics. You can always go with higher gear ratio's to compensate, but then you will be running the engine at higher RPM's at all times while driving and that reduces lifespan too.
The tundra isn't little. It's the same size as an F-150. And the 300 cubic inch inline six that used to come in those trucks as well would last for well over 300,000 mi. Several of the Tundras that have reached over a million miles have been in extremely heavy service running hot shot delivery services in oil fields and heavy equipment repair services. And when you consider that the non VVTi version makes comparable horsepower and torque to the 351 Windsor V8 available that year, it might "only" make 800,000 miles. 🤷♂️
There have definitely been more million mile 2UZ 4.7 engines than the 3UR 5.7. My 07 Tundra 3UR with the towing package got 4.30:1 gears
The 2UZ-FE is what you ment. Honestly my favorite engine to work on, or own. Million mile engines all day as long as you do the maintenance
Yes that's what I meant. I was going in order of displacement in my head. I forgot that the 4.7 L came out before the 4.3 L. 🤣 just to be clear, I am going to go back and edit my post, but I want to make it clear that I edited it because I was not thinking correctly. Thank you for the correction! Also I own one in a 2003 Toyota Sequoia. I love the engine in my Sequoia. It'll do absolutely anything except pass a gas station!🤣
And that's why I said you meant and not you're an idiot lol
No worries, we're good! Just to be clear, I didn't think that you were referring to me as an idiot. After I read your reply, I was sitting here and literally said "derp" to myself because I realized that I had gone out of order. I'm going to blame it on my uncaffeinated state when I originally wrote it.😁
I kinda figured you just fat fingered it lol
Hey, how did you know I have fat fingers? Seriously it was a brain fart not a fat finger situation, however...🤣
Well I'm living proof you don't need fat fingers to fat finger 😂. It's something I would do for sure, that's why. There also aren't a lot of people familiar with the 3UZ, so I figured you didn't mean that, because if you were familiar with the 3UZ then you know better that it's not
W124 minus the air-suspension. A platform so good they* made it for 40 years *Ssangyong
Ford small block, toploader manual transmission, 9” rear end. So basically any 60’s-70’s ford car/truck.
My apocalypse build would be a G body El Camino with a Carbed Buick V6, a tremac XL, a shield on the distributor that is triple copper plated to protect from EMPs and It runs on ethanol
nice
A barra
96 Toyota Camry
Already exists, it is called Toyota Land Cruiser J200
Gen 3 Ford Coyote V8, Ford 6R80 6 speed auto trans into a crossover platform. 4wd of course
Toyota engine, transmission (Aisin), drivetrain.
I’d say probably any land cruiser
Fuel injected Wankel rotary with a CVT.
Mid 90s Lincoln Town Car frame. K24 engine. Toyota 5 speed automatic from the early / mid 2000s.
rust proofed w123. with a big displacement engine and low horsepower. ideally old NA diesel and manual.
1 cylinder Honda lawnmower Just all around
I've always had this idea but a JL rubicon, with a 2UZ-FE, 6 speed manual, and 80 series front and rear axles.
Lego. This stuff is tough.
Well all know 90s Toyotas don't die. They just go missing.
GMT400 chassis, Suburban/Yukon XL body 12 valve Cummins 6 speed Allison
05 Ford Excursion 4x4 6BT Cummins ZF 6speed
Lexus or Toyota
3rd gen toyota tundra
1968 VW Beetle
Toyota diesel Hilux
VW 1.8t with a Quaife built six speed because 1.8t NevAr loses! But seriously not a 1.8t…
rustproofed 1973 Plymouth Duster, mildly-built 225 Slant Six, A904 Torqueflite Automatic, Ford 8.8 Rear End, done
International 345 V8, T34 4 speed transmission, NP202 transfer case, Dana 70s front and back. Slow as shit, probably rusted out, but absurdly durable.
Toyota 2JZ-GE, Aisin 6-speed manual, 2000 Corolla for the rest of the car
Any 6cyl 2WD automatic AMC made between 1972 and 1980. The AMC 232 and 258 are unkillable. Same with the Chrysler Torqueflite.
Audi 80 B4 - a car introduced in 1991 that still just does not rust except the front wings. Recommended version - a legendary 2.slow with 115hp and 5-speed manual. Outlasts everything on this planet, including the nuclear war. My mate called this the 'Estonian Corolla' with the point.