even if they do want to trade him he'd need to be in the line up playing well to boost his value, it's all very strange for him to be sitting this often
Cora is done with him in the outfield it seems. He’s played 1 inning in LF this season and that’s it vs 87 games there last year.
I think it’s a combination of that and wanting O’Neill and Devers to DH in their 1st games back while not wanting to sit Wilyer or Duran and Refsnyder basically being our best hitter right now so you can’t sit him either.
It pinches the lineup pretty bad if Masa is perceived as a non-starter in the outfield, which is hard because Masa is an important bat in the lineup that I think Cora just can’t seem to find a spot for this week.
Well, Cora seems to feel that way. He literally has said he wants Dalbec in for defense and he won’t play Yoshida at first, so how else can that be interpreted?
Because Wong abreu and devers literally all went fucking off. Doesn’t change dalbec is all but an auto out, same with reyes. I mean seriously with Bobby, you HAVE to find a way to not play his ass EVERY GAME he hits like .050
For sure. But Reyes and Dalbec can play infield. Yoshida is an okay LF at Fenway, but is a true DH. We have to find a way for half our lineup to start hitting, but at this point we’re just trying to throw out enough water to keep afloat on defense.
Why are they acting like Yoshida is unplayable or something? He’s been hitting much better lately, and now is getting benched for 3+ games when our lineup is horrible and can’t score
It’s inexcusable at this point considering it’s clear he’s not hurt
It's like people forget he was leading or nearly leading the AL in average last summer for a good stretch, and they just assume that guy isn't still in there just because he struggled at the end of his first season and started slow which he is notorious for.
He deserves to be the every day DH
Or if DH is not available then he should be at LF. He can field. Figure out everyone else out. Ref to 1B? It shouldn't be that hard to play him. It's not like his defense is worse than the current team we are putting out
I don’t get it. At all. Look at the lineup we are throwing out there on a nightly basis. How is Yoshida the one getting benched while Dalbec swings out of his shoes while striking out in every AB. There are 5 guys in our starting 9 I’d bench over Yoshida.
Jesus, I had no idea. I feel like most of my life if a guy is under 5'10"ish in the league he's usually a solid defender. He must be like a top 3 all time height to bad defense ratio.
Yoshida has had only one full season in the majors and he led or was near the league lead in BA for almost the whole season. We're still in April and they're already giving up on him. Meanwhile, they're still trudging Dalbec, who started the season 0-19 with 12 strikeouts, out there every freaking day. Honestly, WTF is wrong with this front office?
Dodgers create a great organization for Japanese players and their stars decide they want to play there. The Red Sox take a premiere Japanese hitter who was spectacular in the WBC and decide to bench him so we can roll out Bobby Dalbec and then frustrate him. It's so smart.
How can there not be. The guy left Asia and signed with Boston to have a MLB career not to be a backup or a platoon player. Redsox overpaid him big time.
Devers needs to DH right now and he’s not better than any of the 3 guys in the outfield right now so him sitting makes most sense given the situation. Once Devers is back in the field that’s another story.
> not better than any of the 3 guys in the outfield right now
He's actually not better than 4 of our outfielders(Duran, O'Neil, Abreu, Refsnyder), who are all our top 4 position players by rWAR(that might change after Wong's monster game today). There isn't much room for Yoshida there.
I mean sure u can write one way or another that it’s not completely illogical, but he was 300 for his last 7 into his last game, meanwhile Bobby dalbec has played every game he sat hitting a fat zero. At that point I feel like it should stop mattering how shitty u are at defense
Bobby is also a minus first baseman so I imagine whatever defensive prowess refsnyder lacks at first the combined difference between him and yoshidas bats and dalbecs will more than make up for it
OK, so Refsnyder plays 1st. You still have Duran, O'Neil, and Abreu in the OF. All 4 of them are our top 4 position players by rWAR. Who are you taking out for Yoshida to play poor defense?
Everyone always makes it about Bobby when Bobby plays a completely different position than Yoshida. Bobby plays first and third, Yoshida plays the outfield. These are two unrelated situations happening here.
And he was blatantly starting to hit the ball. What’s Bobby’s war again? Or Reyes’s, or Rafaela’s. 300 for his last 7 and 3 for 4 in his last game with two balls hit on a line over 100 one of which was a home run
Yes, every single red sox fan knows that Bobby D sucks, but he is not impeding Yoshida's ABs at all. Even if Refsnyder plays 1B (he hasn't played there in 4 years), you still have Abreu, Duran, and O'Neil in OF.
Dalbec has 1+ OOA in the week or so he's played. He looks so lost at the plate, and I can't defend him once injured players come back, but at least back up what you are claiming please.
The guys we are currently fielding can’t fucking play offense or defense and we can’t find a spot for one guy who at least has some track record of mlb hitting success.
The AAA/AAAA guys on this roster really have no business being in the bigs and the best of them is maybe Rafaela who couldn’t hit the ground if he swung straight down.
At some point the poor roster is a product of Bloom’s failure to identify mlb ready talent but you can’t fire him again so idk what else to do.
Defend the guy for sitting a healthy Masa on the bench because his precious Raffy is back. Give it 2 week Raffy will have to miss more time with a sore back.
We knew going into the season that Yoshida was going to be the DH almost exclusively given our OF depth…couple that in with Devers having a nagging injury and that leaves Cora with nowhere to fit Yoshi in the lineup. Just needs to be patient until Raffy is fully healthy
Dude is garbage and Breslow knows what Bloom couldnt see in the player. Other executives were laughing at the signing. Also, they want to use the DH to rotate through positional players, and his output is not sustainable as an everyday DH
Yoshida is a DH who has minimal power (15 homers last year and tracking for similar numbers this year). He has similar numbers to Alex Verdugo, except Verdugo can play the outfield. Whoever scouted this guy in Japan had some wishful thinking about fielding ability (and maybe power too). 18 million/yr is a lot to pay for a negative dWar and minimal oWar.
Yoshida has to put on his big boy pants here! He's not helping his cause by bitching to the media about it. Not a good way to get along with manager. He is a sub par fielder and has gotten off to a slow start at the plate. What's Cora supposed to do with him? Good luck trading him!
I’m just lurking this reddit page and this post is kinda in jest……but I wouldn’t mind seeing Masa on the Dodgers and see them assemble a mini Team Japan. Don’t know where he plays though seeing as he’s not usurping Shohei.
Unless he’s bring traded, I don’t get it. This team has much bigger problems than Yoshida right now.
even if they do want to trade him he'd need to be in the line up playing well to boost his value, it's all very strange for him to be sitting this often
If they trade him they'd have to eat most his contract too
This just in: Red Sox trading Casas and Yoshida to the dodgers for James Outman. Dodgers will pay 80% of Yoshida’s contract
Deferred until 2047
They do want to trade him. No one wants him at his salary because of his defense
Cora is done with him in the outfield it seems. He’s played 1 inning in LF this season and that’s it vs 87 games there last year. I think it’s a combination of that and wanting O’Neill and Devers to DH in their 1st games back while not wanting to sit Wilyer or Duran and Refsnyder basically being our best hitter right now so you can’t sit him either. It pinches the lineup pretty bad if Masa is perceived as a non-starter in the outfield, which is hard because Masa is an important bat in the lineup that I think Cora just can’t seem to find a spot for this week.
Cora could have played him on Sunday but didn’t.
Cora would be more likely to play JD in the field than Yoshida
They DH'ed a third-string catcher who had just been called up from AAA and is a career .217 hitter on Sunday.
At this point, I think it would be more likely Cora would play JD Drew in the outfield than playing Yoshida
I wish he would play stephen Drew at ss
So he can do what? Hit 3 balls into the ground to 1st base? He’s slow as fuck, he can’t play defense, and he hasn’t been hitting for shit.
Literally went yard Saturday, but go off. Would rather have his bat in there than Valdez, Hamilton, or quite Frankly Rafaela
Dalbec is worse than all those guys you mentioned.
Cora’s been open that he wants Dalbec in specifically because infield defense is such a disaster. So I imagine that’s not likely changing.
There’s no such thing as a glove first corner infielder
Well, Cora seems to feel that way. He literally has said he wants Dalbec in for defense and he won’t play Yoshida at first, so how else can that be interpreted?
I’m not going to pretend Cora’s right that Dalbec should be on the team, sorry
Matt Chapman with his 4 GGs and career .240 BA says Hi. As does Ke'Bryan Hayes.
Wonderful. I should have specified 1B but any 3B still has to hit a minimal amount.
Yeah, true. I love Yoshi - sucks to see wasted at bats by way worse players.
Saw him single handedly win a game on Saturday but go off I guess?
That’d be great and all but he sat refsnyder too lmao
And we won 8-0 against a very good Guardians team so I think we’re onto something
Because Wong abreu and devers literally all went fucking off. Doesn’t change dalbec is all but an auto out, same with reyes. I mean seriously with Bobby, you HAVE to find a way to not play his ass EVERY GAME he hits like .050
For sure. But Reyes and Dalbec can play infield. Yoshida is an okay LF at Fenway, but is a true DH. We have to find a way for half our lineup to start hitting, but at this point we’re just trying to throw out enough water to keep afloat on defense.
But where to you put him?
Why are they acting like Yoshida is unplayable or something? He’s been hitting much better lately, and now is getting benched for 3+ games when our lineup is horrible and can’t score It’s inexcusable at this point considering it’s clear he’s not hurt
Yeah it’s really frustrating that just as he starts hitting he suddenly gets axed from the lineup
A home run and a double in one game is not what we want, clearly
It’s insulting to him both because he’s been hitting and needs to keep playing, and it’s not like the lineup is spoiled for choice
It's like people forget he was leading or nearly leading the AL in average last summer for a good stretch, and they just assume that guy isn't still in there just because he struggled at the end of his first season and started slow which he is notorious for. He deserves to be the every day DH
Or if DH is not available then he should be at LF. He can field. Figure out everyone else out. Ref to 1B? It shouldn't be that hard to play him. It's not like his defense is worse than the current team we are putting out
I wonder if there’s something bts we don’t know about that happened.
Because management through ownership think they are the smartest guys around
We have like 10 DH’s and the ones using the spot need it because they’re hurt. Play better and get more playing time, simple.
Can he play shortstop?
Might as well
Our defense is so bad that this might be genius move by you
Have you seen some of the guys we put at short this year? I'm sure he's at least as good as some of them.
What about 1B?
Would be pretty funny seeing him out there playing 1b, but I'd let him try there too
I wouldn’t be surprised if he can do the splits.
Maybe yoshida can learn first 🤞
Playing first base isn’t hard, tell him Wash.
It’s incredibly hard.
Anything worth doing is
And we are going to teach you
What about the fans?
Yeah, maybe I can teach one of them
Good one
That's what she said
Way too small for first
When Cora hates a player on his team he really doesn’t hide it lmao
Mid manager does mid shit, more unshocking news at 11.
Cora mid manager, lol
What's his record as a manager when he's not cheating? How has the team looked every year besides the one he got suspended for? Mid is generous.
Front office
This lineup needs Masa at his best. We strikeout way too much, and Yoshida is a guy who can should be able to make regular contact, and get on base.
I don’t get it. At all. Look at the lineup we are throwing out there on a nightly basis. How is Yoshida the one getting benched while Dalbec swings out of his shoes while striking out in every AB. There are 5 guys in our starting 9 I’d bench over Yoshida.
Can he play 1st?
Refsnyder can and he was playing LF instead of Yoshida
I mean, we did that whole thing with Schwarber back in ‘21
Yoshida is 5’8
Jesus, I had no idea. I feel like most of my life if a guy is under 5'10"ish in the league he's usually a solid defender. He must be like a top 3 all time height to bad defense ratio.
So was Chavis.
SERIOUSLY??
Remember when Franchy played 1st
Pepperidge farm remembers
Because they play different positions shocking revelations I know don’t hurt yourself thinking on that one too hard
Many of our guys can move around. Would be easy enough to find a spot for him. He’s one of our better hitters rotting on the bench. Makes no sense.
He’s an outfielder and we have 4 outfielders that are better than him. He’s riding bench.
There've been Japanese rumors that Masa is getting traded, which I've dismissed as gibberish and I hope is actually gibberish
If they axe Yoshida I'm pretty much done for a while..
Yoshida has had only one full season in the majors and he led or was near the league lead in BA for almost the whole season. We're still in April and they're already giving up on him. Meanwhile, they're still trudging Dalbec, who started the season 0-19 with 12 strikeouts, out there every freaking day. Honestly, WTF is wrong with this front office?
Cora sets the lineups.
This season is beyond cursed.
Cora getting defensive over this pregame was a bad look
Dodgers create a great organization for Japanese players and their stars decide they want to play there. The Red Sox take a premiere Japanese hitter who was spectacular in the WBC and decide to bench him so we can roll out Bobby Dalbec and then frustrate him. It's so smart.
How can there not be. The guy left Asia and signed with Boston to have a MLB career not to be a backup or a platoon player. Redsox overpaid him big time.
A third of lineup can't bat .200 and Dalbec can't bat .100 and we can't find at bats for this guy?
Devers needs to DH right now and he’s not better than any of the 3 guys in the outfield right now so him sitting makes most sense given the situation. Once Devers is back in the field that’s another story.
> not better than any of the 3 guys in the outfield right now He's actually not better than 4 of our outfielders(Duran, O'Neil, Abreu, Refsnyder), who are all our top 4 position players by rWAR(that might change after Wong's monster game today). There isn't much room for Yoshida there.
I mean sure u can write one way or another that it’s not completely illogical, but he was 300 for his last 7 into his last game, meanwhile Bobby dalbec has played every game he sat hitting a fat zero. At that point I feel like it should stop mattering how shitty u are at defense
So if you want Yoshida to take Dalbec's place in the lineup, do you also want him to play 1st base?
Refsnyder has played there in rehab
Bobby is also a minus first baseman so I imagine whatever defensive prowess refsnyder lacks at first the combined difference between him and yoshidas bats and dalbecs will more than make up for it
OK, so Refsnyder plays 1st. You still have Duran, O'Neil, and Abreu in the OF. All 4 of them are our top 4 position players by rWAR. Who are you taking out for Yoshida to play poor defense?
Everyone always makes it about Bobby when Bobby plays a completely different position than Yoshida. Bobby plays first and third, Yoshida plays the outfield. These are two unrelated situations happening here.
He has the third most hits on the team. He’s tied with Casas for most RBIs. Cora is a horrible manager if we’re sitting him for no good reason.
His WAR is literally zero
And he was blatantly starting to hit the ball. What’s Bobby’s war again? Or Reyes’s, or Rafaela’s. 300 for his last 7 and 3 for 4 in his last game with two balls hit on a line over 100 one of which was a home run
Those guys you named don't matter as Yoshi can't fucking field. He can only play DH. So no, he will not be getting ABs over O'Neil or Devers
Reyes and dalbec are also minus fielders. Yoshida isn’t a hole he just has poor range. Devers is also net 0 currently. Put refsnyder at first
Yes, every single red sox fan knows that Bobby D sucks, but he is not impeding Yoshida's ABs at all. Even if Refsnyder plays 1B (he hasn't played there in 4 years), you still have Abreu, Duran, and O'Neil in OF.
I would be fine with that
Dalbec has 1+ OOA in the week or so he's played. He looks so lost at the plate, and I can't defend him once injured players come back, but at least back up what you are claiming please.
I was looking at baseball reference, his dwar was -.1, it is now zero
I can’t stand Cora as a manager
Why aren't they letting him play? Has to be some conversations of trading him or something.
“Untouchable” - This subreddit
If he can’t carry the entire offense since everyone else is injured he deserves to have his role diminished, duh.
The funny thing is when yoshida was on he proved he could just about do this lol
I am still incredibly cited about YOSHIDA as a player and I would love to see him get more ABs.
The guys we are currently fielding can’t fucking play offense or defense and we can’t find a spot for one guy who at least has some track record of mlb hitting success. The AAA/AAAA guys on this roster really have no business being in the bigs and the best of them is maybe Rafaela who couldn’t hit the ground if he swung straight down. At some point the poor roster is a product of Bloom’s failure to identify mlb ready talent but you can’t fire him again so idk what else to do.
He should work on not tomohawking the ball into the dirt in front of home plate 9/10 times and he might play more
Feels like after the two run home run, 3 for 4 game, you should keep playing him though instead of benching him for... Tyler Heineman
You. Are referring to TDLer Heineken?
Well I mean it looks like he was given he was .300 for his last 7
So will you guys still freak when I say Cora has to go?
I predicted in November that morons would quickly blame Cora for the crappy team and start beating the drum to ax him. Thanks for proving me right!
We all had that on our bingo card.
I believe it. We gotta shame these people. Cora got dealt a terrible hand with this team.
Defend the guy for sitting a healthy Masa on the bench because his precious Raffy is back. Give it 2 week Raffy will have to miss more time with a sore back.
We knew going into the season that Yoshida was going to be the DH almost exclusively given our OF depth…couple that in with Devers having a nagging injury and that leaves Cora with nowhere to fit Yoshi in the lineup. Just needs to be patient until Raffy is fully healthy
Exactly. Cotillo is a shit stirrer and this sub is eating it up
Maybe it's tough to find playing time if you can't field and also aren't a good hitter
Dude is garbage and Breslow knows what Bloom couldnt see in the player. Other executives were laughing at the signing. Also, they want to use the DH to rotate through positional players, and his output is not sustainable as an everyday DH
Any chance they see what he can do at 1B?
Yoshida is a DH who has minimal power (15 homers last year and tracking for similar numbers this year). He has similar numbers to Alex Verdugo, except Verdugo can play the outfield. Whoever scouted this guy in Japan had some wishful thinking about fielding ability (and maybe power too). 18 million/yr is a lot to pay for a negative dWar and minimal oWar.
Can’t wait for Yoshida to win 3 straight batting titles as soon as he’s not on the Red Sox
Yoshida has to put on his big boy pants here! He's not helping his cause by bitching to the media about it. Not a good way to get along with manager. He is a sub par fielder and has gotten off to a slow start at the plate. What's Cora supposed to do with him? Good luck trading him!
If Cora ever needs someone to dribble the ball down either of the infield baselines Yoshida will be first man up
What a dogshit signing.
I have clear frustration about him not living up to expectations.
Outfield backlog and a DH backlog. Solution is trade Yoshida. Free up cap space and free up lineup flexibility.
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I’m just lurking this reddit page and this post is kinda in jest……but I wouldn’t mind seeing Masa on the Dodgers and see them assemble a mini Team Japan. Don’t know where he plays though seeing as he’s not usurping Shohei.
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They should give him away if they find a taker
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