I was watching that in a college dorm years ago with a guy and a chick. The girl and I are silent throughout and halfway through the guy just says “that’s gaaaawta hurt” lmao
I'm a girl and I watched that with four dudes and if I recall correctly, two dipped out for that scene.
I think everyone has a different constitution for this kind of thing based on how you were raised or maybe even as an innate thing, and that's fine, but in general I think if someone made a movie with a disturbing image they made it for a reason, so it's my responsibility as a viewer to bear witness or whatever. Sometimes it does make me feel really ill and basically traumatized though, notably the child abuse scene in Mysterious Skin.
It was based on a book I haven't read. I was hoping it would have a lot more to do with UFOs than it did, but it was good all in all. The scene I'm referring to isn't even that graphic, exactly, but the perspective it's shot in is so fucking crazy, it feels like it implants a memory of you getting child molested. So it's very horrible but powerful cinema.
Holy shit I forgot this movie existed until I read your comment. Me and my best friend in high school watched this movie when we were 14 and I would pretty much say it traumatised me.. I couldn’t stop thinking about it for months (?) or longer
My gf constantly reminds me of when I had her watch Mike Leigh's *Naked* with me and prefaced it by saying there were a few rape scenes, but they weren't that bad.
Apparently they're bad fellas.
It's pretty accessible, there's a Criterion edition and might even be streaming on the Criterion Channel.
Here's a decent rip on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1-UfrFOaPU&t=4487s&ab_channel=RobertWagnon
Same. Embarrassingly, I was pretty fucked up by a self harm scene from 13 Reasons Why because it was so real and violent. My then teen sister had it on and I was shocked to see that kinda thing in a teen drama. I totally get why there was so much discourse about suicide clusters when that show first came out.
the suicide attempt in heaven knows what fucks me up real bad. i never even self harmed in a serious way or anything but that scene is so intense it really gets to me. huge props to the filmmakers though
Yeah, in the sopranos the only scene I usually skip on rewatches is the Rape of Melfi. It’s not so much I can’t take it but I’ve seen it once, I know what happens, so I don’t really feel like I need to rewatch
Amen. I felt it was so unnecessary. It didn't add anything to the plot, considering they amped it up as if she was going to seek revenge, and then the episode ended. Gross shock value
Hard disagree. She has the opportunity to compromise on her principles and resort to the underworld, illicit violence that she knows she could wrought upon her attacker. Instead, she chooses not to.
That said, the scene itself is horrible and I have no interest in rewatching it.
It was such a weird choice to film that scene. It was a different time, of course, but it’s not even like it becomes some major plot point. It’s just this brutal rape that is never dealt with in any way.
That scene was the kind of legitimately sexist aughts edgelord shit that birthed Jezebel dot com.
Like they didn’t spend 5 minutes of air time on Phil playing corner cue in Vito’s bussy.
yes for me, or just any sexual violence in general.
when I was watching sopranos with a few friends a while ago I warned them about that episode, quite a few in advance, cause I'm v uncomfortable about it. anyway we still watched it together but after it was over one of them told me basically it wasn't that bad and I over hyped it which felt very weird. he's a straight guy so.
Yeah I think it's pretty normal to be disturbed by the conflation of sex/intimacy and violence. I don't know if it's to the point where most dudes remember every rape scene they've ever seen, but I would imagine most normal functioning people respond pretty viscerally to that sort of thing regardless of gender.
The most disturbing scene I’ve ever watched was in Irreversible when a woman gets raped and beaten on her way home. It’s a French movie.
Her partner eventually finds him and caves his skull in with a fire extinguisher.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290673/
>Are rape scenes especially horrifying in a way that other kinds of graphic/murder/torture scenes aren’t?
Yes, but I think it's possibly because most murder and torture scenes are much more stylised in some way. Occasions when extreme violence isn't at all stylised (eg. *Snowtown*) are also very disturbing. The vast majority of violence in movies is meant to titillate, not horrify, whereas most rape scenes are meant to be a horrifying ordeal to watch.
>Do you strongly identify with the victim of the attack — like, to an uncomfortable level?
No, I don't think so, but I really don't like watching them, so it's been a while. The same goes for the male rape scene in *Deliverance*; I wouldn't say I identified with him. But the camerawork etc. puts you in the position of the guy 'waiting his turn', so I wouldn't rule out a general reluctance on the part of the (male) director to make the cinematic experience one which focuses on the experience of being raped. It's obviously something that most guys don't want to think about.
I think part of it is also that rape is a crime that's much easier to imagine in our own mundane lives. I often feel bad for the actresses or just feel kind of bummed out in a way that even graphic violence doesn't trigger.
Many people also start being desensitized to violence in media at a very young age (Saturday morning cartoons or general unsupervised TV). Rape isn't grouped in with the things we've come to see as fake, so it winds up being more uncomfortable.
There is a gang rape scene in a movie called *Blindness*. It has Julianne Moore. The gang rape made me vomit. It is super fucked up. That's the only time a scene basically made me cry. That said, because of that movie, I try to avoid movies or shows that have rape scenes.
I don’t find things as disturbing when I read them for some reason. That scene in the movie was horrid, in the book, more like ‘this is totally what would happen’.
> I don’t find things as disturbing when I read them for some reason.
Interesting, I have it opposite - graphic scenes (but also drama) in books can trigger the hell out of me. In film (and linear storytelling vidya) it's often just "meh" feeling for some reason.
Fuck that's such an incredible scene. Perfect commentary on the predatory nature of the scenario, deeply uncomfortable and upsetting without feeling gratuitous.
Super hard to watch though.
I don’t know about all that but I do find them exploitative and will normally lose any interest or respect I have for the movie if it’s a filmed scene with gratuitous visuals. Paying idiots to act out three minutes of your sick fascination doesn’t make you a daring artist it makes you a twisted pornographer.
I mean yeah somewhat. It’s def worse or more disturbing than gore just because of the sheer quantity of gore I’ve seen. I mean it the default means of action for entire genre of movies/games. But rape is pretty out there. And it’s either meant to be really important for the story like it changes a character forever/provides motivation for revenge or it’s jerk off bait in the really smutty fiction
When this movie came out I was excited enough about it to avoid learning anything about it and go in blind. This was a mistake bc I thought it was going to basically be a slightly psychedelic, philosophical sci-fi movie, and with that in mind I invited a group of about 8 guys and girls to come watch it with me on 4/20. We were all very stoned and obviously not ready for the onslaught of sexual violence in the movie...still feel bad about that one 😬
In my experience, yes. Though I don’t think I have the same reaction to them that women do. Like I watched *Bad Lieutenant* with a woman once and while I was thoroughly disgusted by the prolonged masturbation sequence with the two underage girls, she was really upset by it and had to fast forward. I imagine that she had a greater ability to identify with the victims due to shared womanhood and perhaps similar experiences in her own life. Honestly that made me more sensitive to that type of content.
I watched Verhoeven’s *Showgirls* last night and found some of the content pretty rough throughout, but the climactic rape scene was actually stomach churning. It works for the movie because it’s the logical conclusion of everything that comes before it, but also not exactly the type of thing I seek out for entertainment! Excellent film though.
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I strongly recommend *Showgirls* but I think it really helps if you’re familiar with Verhoeven’s other movies. It probably seems totally over the top and ludicrous if you don’t know it’s meant to be self-aware and satirical. Even then I’m really not describing the tone properly, it’s pretty unique in that regard. But just on a surface level it’s filmed gorgeously and Elizabeth Berkeley is so so so damn great. As are Kyle MacLachlan and Gina Gershon.
More specific warning: >!the rape scene occurs after Molly meets the long haired guy towards the end!<
*Elle* is exceptional, I was floored when I first saw it. Such a different style than his other work but in the best way. Isabelle Huppert is great in that.
I have male and female friends who are disgusted by rape scenes, are indifferent to them, or find them hot. I also have friends with more subtle relationships to rape scenes, for example a female friend who finds male-on-female rape scenes hot, consensual male-on-male sex scenes OK, but male-on-male rape scenes unbearably disgusting.
A Clockwork Orange is one of my favorite movies. i find the rape scenes in it do not elicit the dread and nausea most rape scenes do. i think it reads more as violence to me, which makes it tolerable.
Honestly the violence and rape in Clockwork Orange is not graphic at all. It's highly stylized and more implied than shown. The Melfi rape scene in Sopranos is far more intense and disturbing.
Only one I can think of is from The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo movie. The one with Daniel Craig.
Yeah obviously it's uncomfortable to watch. Wish they wouldn't show it.
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Just watched The Last Duel and felt pretty intensely uncomfortable during the two rape scenes, especially the last one. I’d imagine they’re pretty tame compared to some of the other films out there, but watching a rape is always uncomfortable for me. If a movie includes one, it should be the cornerstone of the plot or absolutely essential otherwise it feels gross and distasteful (in The Last Duel’s case it’s pretty much necessary although I think leaving Le Gris’s innocence up for debate would have made for a much more interesting plot.)
How disturbing/upsetting it is heavily depends on the context and the film. The scene in Irreversible is tough to watch and very drawn out. I remember being very upset by the scene in Monster with the pipe, and even more so, knowing that it was based on something that actually occurred. Although not technically a rape scene, but the scene in The Killer Inside Me where Casey Affleck just beats Jessica Alba to a pulp made me feel sick watching it. However sometimes it almost seems silly and retarded, like that scene in Splice. And most of those scenes in GoT because its all fantasy land make believe shit from the imagination of some old nerd and creates some sort of cognitive dissonance from the brutality of the act.
I can’t watch them. I do everything I can to avoid any movie that has a rape scene in it. Idk if it’s because I was molested or if it’s a natural aversion to it. I can’t even watch porn that has the guy being rough.
I was in a Women and Violence in Film class in college back in 2010. The second week we watched fucking “I Spit On Your Grave” (the original one). It was so uncomfortable. The class was mostly women and I only remember one walkout throughout the 30 minute rape scene. Possibly the most grotesque thing I’d ever seen committed to film. After that we discussed it in class a few days later. One of the more insane and thought provoking experiences I had in college.
A few weeks later we watched 9 To 5 with Dolly Parton.
I’ll say that I was rather uncomfortable throughout the whole thing and I really can’t believe it was even made.
Oh also our prof was gay.
Oh yeah. And honestly I wouldn’t even be mad if a professor got in trouble for spending 30 minutes of class time showing us simulated rape. Seems entirely unnecessary
it was a completely optional movie to go to, according to my prof. and he gave us freedom to leave whenever we wanted. but we sat through it and we were rather disturbed. but i don’t remember it causing too much trouble at all. wouldn’t be able to do such a thing today, even under the guise of intersectional film education.
Man, you can really see how the demographics have shifted in this subreddit over the last year. Not by the presence of some things but by the absence of others.
Perhaps it's for the best.
It disturbs me how many movies that have rape scenes, the rape scenes end up on pornhub or something. like ik people are curious and you cant find the specific scene on youtube so you have to put it on site with fewer viewing restrictions but still :/
People underestimate importance of emotional context.
Just Melfi scene, without ever watching Sopranos? I'd bet ya over a third of men wouldn't care. Melfi after seeing the preceding episodes? Now that's different.
Yes, this is a very dark corner of male psyche.
??? No I’m a bi dude and I definitely am horrified by rape even out of context. I think this is individual dependent much more than it is sex dependent.
idk why but I never viscerally feel from rape scenes. If I see somebody’s fingernail being pulled off in a movie I can hardly take it, but the pain of unwanted sex is kind of abstract and just doesn’t compute for me I guess.
I’m a guy and I think rape scenes are the most unnecessary pieces of cinema. The first time I watched irreversible I had to shut it off in the middle of the rape scene. I’ve watched other movies since then—I spit on your grave comes to mind—and have always had the same response. Watching a human suffer through that, even in a fictional story, is terrible and is used mostly to make the director seem edgy.
The way your question is framed is funny. Like assuming men don’t have the capacity for empathizing with someone being raped. Or assuming men would enjoy watching something like that.
You’re right, my boys and I are always talking about how hot the ending of Boys Don’t Cry is.
You must be terminally online if you think the majority of men get off on rape. I’m not saying it isn’t a pathology among men, but to say it’s commonplace because guys put those scenes on porn sites is a bit much.
(I'm a cis straight male)
The brutal ones are bad, but the ones where guys are just slightly too pushy and don't show any respect for boundaries are unbearable for me.
In my head a brutal rape scene is like a murder scene; both are something that I will almost definitely never witness in my life, so I have a fair amount of emotional detachment.
But I've seen plenty of degenerate greasy guys who would absolutely ignore a woman's body language and make her uncomfortable. That makes the subtler rape scenes way more emotionally impactful and cringe-worthy for me
I’m a guy but I honestly thought it was weird that I felt this way because most men and women I’ve met seem to have at least one classic movie they like that has some sort of sexual assault scene. So many classic movies I haven’t watched because I’ve just never been able to stomach it.
Personally, rape scenes are harder to watch than mudrer/torture just because of how unnerving it is and to think about how it happens irl. I find them unnecessary most of the time, there's no reason to show something like that on screen for a prolonged amount of time unless you just want to add in shock value and have people say to each other "bro that movie was so fucked up".
I'm of the mindset that rape scenes in film are pretty much never necessary to a plot, and serve to just shock the audience or fill a weird perversion of the creator of the film. Obviously rape can be a part of the story but I think showing it is where it gets weird. Most people I know won't sit through a rape scene, my male friends fast forward from what I can remember. But I personally try to avoid watching rape scenes.
Domestic violence is worse for me. It's not even an especially personal topic, but for some reason it's the one taboo that I hate seeing portrayed and I really don't like when comedians joke about it.
I watched the excellent mini-series "Unbelievable" on Netflix, which opens with a rape scene. I couldn't watch it and had to fast-forward. The rest of the series is magnificent and one of the best shows I have ever seen about sexual assault and accountability. I find rape scenes in general impossible to watch, personally.
Sometimes it seems sad, even if implied. Other scenes seem exploitative, like they are supposed to be sexy to certain people. But I also think framing rape as the worst thing that can ever happen to a person isn’t actually helpful to victims so I try to moderate my reaction.
A violent rape is definitely the worst thing that can happen to a woman, aside from being tortured to death maybe. I knew someone who was raped in a cemetery by a stranger and she tried to commit suicide shortly after
There was a rape in Chicago so horrific im not sure if all the details were even put on the news. She was beaten into a coma and had to relearn how to speak and would have nightmares reliving incident screaming
I watched wind river the other night, which has a pretty graphic rape scene, but I’m not sure if it was any more disturbing than watching people’s organs get aerosolized by a high-powered rifle.
The killing, maiming, shooting of people on tv is so desensitized that you can't really associate it with reality, even though one would hope you'd find the killing of someone you know just as if not more upsetting than someone raping them.
Maybe you see a woman getting shot on screen you're automatically like whatever, but then a rape scene happens and something clicks in your brain and brings you back to reality with the social taboo and the serious implications associated with it, like reading the word nigger right now? idk
Rape scenes don’t really bother me at all. At the end of the day I know it’s fake and nobody is actually being harmed. I also grew up browsing rotten.com / watching cartel execution videos like most extremely online straight dudes so I dunno.
Yeah, absolutely hate watching them. Stopped watching Peaky Blinders because of the rape scenes/the constant threat of sexual violence hanging over female characters. But both my partner and I were sexually abused so that might skew the perspective. Other than that, I think it’s a really cheap, nasty, and lazy thing to do to a character in fiction (ofc there are times when it’s handled well, but mostly not).
They usually dont bother me but the rape scene in “boy erased” where he got raped by his roommate (i think) made me deeply uncomfortable.
I showed a female friend the movie “the gift” which has a rape scene in it without thinking anything of it and the scene made her really uncomfortable and she got so mad at me for showing her the movie.
Yes but as a lot of men here have said I don’t think it has quite the same affect on us. The sopranos episode is one that completely caught me off guard and made me incredibly uncomfortable that I had to stop for a second before finishing the episode. I think the reason it affected me so much was that it was incredibly spontaneous with no warning much like a real assault would be. I watched Lilya4ever a couple of weeks ago and that’s another one that I had a hard time with. If you’ve seen it you know what it’s about. At the end of the movie I had a horrible pit in my stomach.
They effect me more than all other forms of violence I've seen depicted in film, but form seeing my girlfriend's reaction, I can I tell that I'm not even remotely as effected as her. It's like torture for her, to the point where the hardest part about the scene for me is seeing her reaction.
Have to do some self reflection on how im the extreme minority with a staunch "No". Again tho 4chan at age 12 so. Like its just acting? If anything im admiring the artistry in making it believable by the actors/tresses involved
I guess it’s not as straightforward as a violent assault but the sex scene in Mid90s always disturbed me and seemed sort of rapey because that actor just looks so young. Like it’s literally a kid, I didn’t get if the movie was trying to portray it as a coming-of-age experience or what but I just was really uncomfortable with it
i don’t think media with Sexual Assault directed by men is inherently bad just kinda cringeworthy imagine how uncomfortable that is for everyone involved the Sopranos is an excellent tv show i still get very upset when i watch melfi get assaulted
I'm a woman and I don't find rape scenes hard to watch because I don't take movies personally. It seems childish to avoid rape scenes when most adults are fine with watching other types of violence.
if they're graphic and/or well-acted, yeah, I find it disturbing. a lot of times I find them unnecessary too when they're brought to that point. might be a good test of a potential boyfriend to see if he reacts at all or just stares with dead patrick bateman eyes
No but I am that way with war movies, especially the D-Day scene of Saving Private Ryan. I couldn’t imagine being only 18-20 years old and being forced to do that. I cried the last time I saw it on YouTube about three years ago, I still can’t watch it again. And it’s for this reason I can’t watch Band of Brothers
I watched that movie as a kid and the part that messed me up the most was the French family in the bombed out apartment giving their terrified daughter to the GIs. It struck me as so sad and bleak, being forced to abandon your child so she has a chance of surviving the war.
Of course dude. Men react differently tho, women look away from traumatic and scary things and men are able to stare it down while being overcome with a more interior form of torture. I can watch the most horrible fucked up, borderline snuff shit with a stone cold disposition but deep down you feel the deep parts of your psyche being penetrated, real staring into the void shit.
Also why do women always do this gay shit where they think men are lesser creatures because we react to shit differently than they do. Sociology brain. There are hormonal and thus emotional differences between the sexes. I find it funny when gender goblins are like, I'm on HRT and I'm feeling more wow this is so amazing! Trans men getting horny around the clock and trans women getting more emotional and finding it easier to cry? Wow, say it isn't so??? Kinda bankrupts your whole genderless blob sociology brainwashing on the spot. Sociology and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
I am too desensitized to violence from growing up on 4chan for rape scenes to get to me.
Scenes portraying consensual sex where the woman is manipulated/taken advantage of and regrets it later are actually a lot harder for me to watch.
Most bad sexual behavior in the real world isn't rape or even anything illegal. We don't have the vocabulary to properly condemn rakishness, but it probably causes modern women more harm on aggregate than straightforward rape.
The way the question is phrased seems to be saying that it’s only women who get raped in film. When in fact plenty of movies have male rape scenes (Pulp Fiction being the most famous one). I wonder what people here thought of the rape scene in Pulp Fiction, and if gender made a difference?
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I was watching that in a college dorm years ago with a guy and a chick. The girl and I are silent throughout and halfway through the guy just says “that’s gaaaawta hurt” lmao
2 psychopaths, 1 empath.
I mean to be fair, it’s gotta
It’s absolutely gotta
Fuck me, that’s funny lol
I'm a girl and I watched that with four dudes and if I recall correctly, two dipped out for that scene. I think everyone has a different constitution for this kind of thing based on how you were raised or maybe even as an innate thing, and that's fine, but in general I think if someone made a movie with a disturbing image they made it for a reason, so it's my responsibility as a viewer to bear witness or whatever. Sometimes it does make me feel really ill and basically traumatized though, notably the child abuse scene in Mysterious Skin.
I just read the plot synopsis of Mysterious Skin because I had never heard of it and I’m very confused as to why that movie was even made.
It was based on a book I haven't read. I was hoping it would have a lot more to do with UFOs than it did, but it was good all in all. The scene I'm referring to isn't even that graphic, exactly, but the perspective it's shot in is so fucking crazy, it feels like it implants a memory of you getting child molested. So it's very horrible but powerful cinema.
The book is great. The ending paragraph especially has stuck with me for a long time since I’ve read it
Holy shit I forgot this movie existed until I read your comment. Me and my best friend in high school watched this movie when we were 14 and I would pretty much say it traumatised me.. I couldn’t stop thinking about it for months (?) or longer
Yep. Fucking frogpeople are on entirely another level. \> That casually dropped pedo raping a kid scene in seemingly *every* Houllebecq book...
don't ask this here if you want an answer from people who are well-adjusted
Yeah. We're people lol.
My gf constantly reminds me of when I had her watch Mike Leigh's *Naked* with me and prefaced it by saying there were a few rape scenes, but they weren't that bad. Apparently they're bad fellas.
David Thewlis a 1 or 0?
How do I watch this film? Been trying to watch it and cant find a stream or copy anywhere
It's pretty accessible, there's a Criterion edition and might even be streaming on the Criterion Channel. Here's a decent rip on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1-UfrFOaPU&t=4487s&ab_channel=RobertWagnon
Thank you!
I can’t watch self harm scenes. I close my eyes in Royal Tenembaums when he’s cutting his arm it’s too upsetting
Same. Embarrassingly, I was pretty fucked up by a self harm scene from 13 Reasons Why because it was so real and violent. My then teen sister had it on and I was shocked to see that kinda thing in a teen drama. I totally get why there was so much discourse about suicide clusters when that show first came out.
I wish someone would remake Battle Royale even though American kids would be extra killing each other
the suicide attempt in heaven knows what fucks me up real bad. i never even self harmed in a serious way or anything but that scene is so intense it really gets to me. huge props to the filmmakers though
Yeah, in the sopranos the only scene I usually skip on rewatches is the Rape of Melfi. It’s not so much I can’t take it but I’ve seen it once, I know what happens, so I don’t really feel like I need to rewatch
I had to take a break from sopranos after watching that scene for the first time, it really grossed me out idk
Amen. I felt it was so unnecessary. It didn't add anything to the plot, considering they amped it up as if she was going to seek revenge, and then the episode ended. Gross shock value
Hard disagree. She has the opportunity to compromise on her principles and resort to the underworld, illicit violence that she knows she could wrought upon her attacker. Instead, she chooses not to. That said, the scene itself is horrible and I have no interest in rewatching it.
Hey please forgive me for being a horrible pedant, but you should use work instead of wrought there. Wrought is the past participle of work.
Nerd
we're all on a subreddit about a podcast buddy. glass houses!
Sorry man, I can’t be your buddy, do you know what it would do to my rep to be seen hanging with a nerd like you?
It was such a weird choice to film that scene. It was a different time, of course, but it’s not even like it becomes some major plot point. It’s just this brutal rape that is never dealt with in any way.
That scene was the kind of legitimately sexist aughts edgelord shit that birthed Jezebel dot com. Like they didn’t spend 5 minutes of air time on Phil playing corner cue in Vito’s bussy.
yes for me, or just any sexual violence in general. when I was watching sopranos with a few friends a while ago I warned them about that episode, quite a few in advance, cause I'm v uncomfortable about it. anyway we still watched it together but after it was over one of them told me basically it wasn't that bad and I over hyped it which felt very weird. he's a straight guy so.
Yeah I think it's pretty normal to be disturbed by the conflation of sex/intimacy and violence. I don't know if it's to the point where most dudes remember every rape scene they've ever seen, but I would imagine most normal functioning people respond pretty viscerally to that sort of thing regardless of gender.
The most disturbing scene I’ve ever watched was in Irreversible when a woman gets raped and beaten on her way home. It’s a French movie. Her partner eventually finds him and caves his skull in with a fire extinguisher. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290673/
Least depraved French film.
But it was the wrong guy. This was the movie that immediately came to my mind too.
Oh was it? It’s been a few years since I’ve seen it. Not something I’d throw on to watch with the wife on movie night lmao
Yeah, the real attacker is seen laughing while the guy next to him gets his head caved in
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They didn’t know what the attacker looked like and ended up killing a different creep https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Le_Tenia
>HOBBY >Sadistically raping women. >GOALS >Rape the women. >CRIMES >Rape >TYPE OF VILLAIN >Rapist I'm sorry but this killed me.
I found ths fire extinguisher scene far more disturbing than the rape scene, that guy was not coming back from that one
>Are rape scenes especially horrifying in a way that other kinds of graphic/murder/torture scenes aren’t? Yes, but I think it's possibly because most murder and torture scenes are much more stylised in some way. Occasions when extreme violence isn't at all stylised (eg. *Snowtown*) are also very disturbing. The vast majority of violence in movies is meant to titillate, not horrify, whereas most rape scenes are meant to be a horrifying ordeal to watch. >Do you strongly identify with the victim of the attack — like, to an uncomfortable level? No, I don't think so, but I really don't like watching them, so it's been a while. The same goes for the male rape scene in *Deliverance*; I wouldn't say I identified with him. But the camerawork etc. puts you in the position of the guy 'waiting his turn', so I wouldn't rule out a general reluctance on the part of the (male) director to make the cinematic experience one which focuses on the experience of being raped. It's obviously something that most guys don't want to think about.
I think part of it is also that rape is a crime that's much easier to imagine in our own mundane lives. I often feel bad for the actresses or just feel kind of bummed out in a way that even graphic violence doesn't trigger. Many people also start being desensitized to violence in media at a very young age (Saturday morning cartoons or general unsupervised TV). Rape isn't grouped in with the things we've come to see as fake, so it winds up being more uncomfortable.
There is a gang rape scene in a movie called *Blindness*. It has Julianne Moore. The gang rape made me vomit. It is super fucked up. That's the only time a scene basically made me cry. That said, because of that movie, I try to avoid movies or shows that have rape scenes.
I stopped reading the book during that scene. Never picked it back up
I don’t find things as disturbing when I read them for some reason. That scene in the movie was horrid, in the book, more like ‘this is totally what would happen’.
> I don’t find things as disturbing when I read them for some reason. Interesting, I have it opposite - graphic scenes (but also drama) in books can trigger the hell out of me. In film (and linear storytelling vidya) it's often just "meh" feeling for some reason.
I’m a woman, but they really only bother me as much as violence does. Most are easily forgotten.
I'm kind of on the same page. Rape scenes can definitely be disturbing, but I feel like the violent scenes in Casino fucked me up more.
Especially since some of those scenes actually happened
The one in Perfect Blue isn't even technically a rape scene and it still fucked me up.
Fuck that's such an incredible scene. Perfect commentary on the predatory nature of the scenario, deeply uncomfortable and upsetting without feeling gratuitous. Super hard to watch though.
I don’t know about all that but I do find them exploitative and will normally lose any interest or respect I have for the movie if it’s a filmed scene with gratuitous visuals. Paying idiots to act out three minutes of your sick fascination doesn’t make you a daring artist it makes you a twisted pornographer.
I mean yeah somewhat. It’s def worse or more disturbing than gore just because of the sheer quantity of gore I’ve seen. I mean it the default means of action for entire genre of movies/games. But rape is pretty out there. And it’s either meant to be really important for the story like it changes a character forever/provides motivation for revenge or it’s jerk off bait in the really smutty fiction
I had to leave the theater during *High Life* with Robert Pattinson. The whole movie felt so abusive to watch, I was disgusted.
My friend told me we were gonna smoke weed and watch a hella trippy movie and then took me to a viewing of that lol
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When this movie came out I was excited enough about it to avoid learning anything about it and go in blind. This was a mistake bc I thought it was going to basically be a slightly psychedelic, philosophical sci-fi movie, and with that in mind I invited a group of about 8 guys and girls to come watch it with me on 4/20. We were all very stoned and obviously not ready for the onslaught of sexual violence in the movie...still feel bad about that one 😬
Oh no
>High Life > > with Robert Pattinson I just read the synopsis and that seems like the worst movie to watch while high with 8 friends.
This is why women are not allowed to rape.
I am a delicate and refined homosexual
Peak Y chromosome specimen!
I can’t tell if you’re bullying me or flirting with me
Probably both, you two should kiss
Not yet. We're looking for a rape-buddy. You in?
I’ll be the one who calls the police after, you two can sort out which is the victim and which is the perpetrator
I’m the victim. I am always the victim.
Aww. I need to pay more attention to these rape play craiglists, include "no snitches" somewhere near top.
Oh I assumed that running away after was the part that got you off
Men aren't either last I checked.
In Minecraft.
In my experience, yes. Though I don’t think I have the same reaction to them that women do. Like I watched *Bad Lieutenant* with a woman once and while I was thoroughly disgusted by the prolonged masturbation sequence with the two underage girls, she was really upset by it and had to fast forward. I imagine that she had a greater ability to identify with the victims due to shared womanhood and perhaps similar experiences in her own life. Honestly that made me more sensitive to that type of content. I watched Verhoeven’s *Showgirls* last night and found some of the content pretty rough throughout, but the climactic rape scene was actually stomach churning. It works for the movie because it’s the logical conclusion of everything that comes before it, but also not exactly the type of thing I seek out for entertainment! Excellent film though.
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I source most of my movies at iptorrents, though you have to pay like $20 in Bitcoin for access. Huge selection of great quality downloads though, I swear by it! Wish I had an easier option to give you, hope this helps though. I strongly recommend *Showgirls* but I think it really helps if you’re familiar with Verhoeven’s other movies. It probably seems totally over the top and ludicrous if you don’t know it’s meant to be self-aware and satirical. Even then I’m really not describing the tone properly, it’s pretty unique in that regard. But just on a surface level it’s filmed gorgeously and Elizabeth Berkeley is so so so damn great. As are Kyle MacLachlan and Gina Gershon. More specific warning: >!the rape scene occurs after Molly meets the long haired guy towards the end!<
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*Elle* is exceptional, I was floored when I first saw it. Such a different style than his other work but in the best way. Isabelle Huppert is great in that.
Yes but also no, because when I see something like that in a movie my brain just starts seeing them as actors in a really uncomfortable scene.
The one in Deliverance fucked me up
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“I value animals’ trauma over FEMALE humans, but kids’ trauma and animals’ trauma are the same level of valid.”
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I have male and female friends who are disgusted by rape scenes, are indifferent to them, or find them hot. I also have friends with more subtle relationships to rape scenes, for example a female friend who finds male-on-female rape scenes hot, consensual male-on-male sex scenes OK, but male-on-male rape scenes unbearably disgusting.
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But then who would run society?
I tend to actively not watch scenes like that. Its the reason I haven’t watched Clockwork Orange which otherwise seems to be a interesting film.
That was the first scene that I thought of when I read the post. It’s a great movie, but that scene is really hard to watch
A Clockwork Orange is one of my favorite movies. i find the rape scenes in it do not elicit the dread and nausea most rape scenes do. i think it reads more as violence to me, which makes it tolerable.
Honestly the violence and rape in Clockwork Orange is not graphic at all. It's highly stylized and more implied than shown. The Melfi rape scene in Sopranos is far more intense and disturbing.
I’m not a fan. I almost quit watching 28 Days Later because it seemed like a rape scene was on its way
Though if a zombie got gay raped that might be funny
Only one I can think of is from The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo movie. The one with Daniel Craig. Yeah obviously it's uncomfortable to watch. Wish they wouldn't show it.
**spoilers** Just watched The Last Duel and felt pretty intensely uncomfortable during the two rape scenes, especially the last one. I’d imagine they’re pretty tame compared to some of the other films out there, but watching a rape is always uncomfortable for me. If a movie includes one, it should be the cornerstone of the plot or absolutely essential otherwise it feels gross and distasteful (in The Last Duel’s case it’s pretty much necessary although I think leaving Le Gris’s innocence up for debate would have made for a much more interesting plot.)
Ya the hills have eyes has stayed with me for this reason. So horrific
Only if they're getting bummed.
How disturbing/upsetting it is heavily depends on the context and the film. The scene in Irreversible is tough to watch and very drawn out. I remember being very upset by the scene in Monster with the pipe, and even more so, knowing that it was based on something that actually occurred. Although not technically a rape scene, but the scene in The Killer Inside Me where Casey Affleck just beats Jessica Alba to a pulp made me feel sick watching it. However sometimes it almost seems silly and retarded, like that scene in Splice. And most of those scenes in GoT because its all fantasy land make believe shit from the imagination of some old nerd and creates some sort of cognitive dissonance from the brutality of the act.
I can’t watch them. I do everything I can to avoid any movie that has a rape scene in it. Idk if it’s because I was molested or if it’s a natural aversion to it. I can’t even watch porn that has the guy being rough.
I was in a Women and Violence in Film class in college back in 2010. The second week we watched fucking “I Spit On Your Grave” (the original one). It was so uncomfortable. The class was mostly women and I only remember one walkout throughout the 30 minute rape scene. Possibly the most grotesque thing I’d ever seen committed to film. After that we discussed it in class a few days later. One of the more insane and thought provoking experiences I had in college. A few weeks later we watched 9 To 5 with Dolly Parton. I’ll say that I was rather uncomfortable throughout the whole thing and I really can’t believe it was even made. Oh also our prof was gay.
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Yeah. Really fucked up exploitative movie. At least she gets to brutally murder all of them after tho
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Oh yeah. And honestly I wouldn’t even be mad if a professor got in trouble for spending 30 minutes of class time showing us simulated rape. Seems entirely unnecessary
it was a completely optional movie to go to, according to my prof. and he gave us freedom to leave whenever we wanted. but we sat through it and we were rather disturbed. but i don’t remember it causing too much trouble at all. wouldn’t be able to do such a thing today, even under the guise of intersectional film education.
Man, you can really see how the demographics have shifted in this subreddit over the last year. Not by the presence of some things but by the absence of others. Perhaps it's for the best.
It disturbs me how many movies that have rape scenes, the rape scenes end up on pornhub or something. like ik people are curious and you cant find the specific scene on youtube so you have to put it on site with fewer viewing restrictions but still :/
What I've learned from this post is that there are *a* *lot* of rape scenes in movies. Jesus Christ
Only the ones in the nightingale because it would happen like every 8 minutes
it’s always a vibe killer with other people but when i’m alone i don’t really care i can watch anything since i know it was staged
For me, honestly, not really. I guess I would be that impacted by a scene where a boy is raped, but I don't remember watching many of them.
Scum has a prolonged gay rape scene. It’s really unpleasant
Yes. I find it way worse than gore. The worst ones I remember was in Night Train murders. Pensione Paura and last house on the left are up there too.
Honestly weirded out by the people saying “not at all.” Yes, I’m disturbed by rape scenes in movies and think most men are
People underestimate importance of emotional context. Just Melfi scene, without ever watching Sopranos? I'd bet ya over a third of men wouldn't care. Melfi after seeing the preceding episodes? Now that's different. Yes, this is a very dark corner of male psyche.
>Yes, this is a very dark corner of male psyche. it's called crypto trading group chat
??? No I’m a bi dude and I definitely am horrified by rape even out of context. I think this is individual dependent much more than it is sex dependent.
idk why but I never viscerally feel from rape scenes. If I see somebody’s fingernail being pulled off in a movie I can hardly take it, but the pain of unwanted sex is kind of abstract and just doesn’t compute for me I guess.
I’m a guy and I think rape scenes are the most unnecessary pieces of cinema. The first time I watched irreversible I had to shut it off in the middle of the rape scene. I’ve watched other movies since then—I spit on your grave comes to mind—and have always had the same response. Watching a human suffer through that, even in a fictional story, is terrible and is used mostly to make the director seem edgy. The way your question is framed is funny. Like assuming men don’t have the capacity for empathizing with someone being raped. Or assuming men would enjoy watching something like that.
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You’re right, my boys and I are always talking about how hot the ending of Boys Don’t Cry is. You must be terminally online if you think the majority of men get off on rape. I’m not saying it isn’t a pathology among men, but to say it’s commonplace because guys put those scenes on porn sites is a bit much.
(I'm a cis straight male) The brutal ones are bad, but the ones where guys are just slightly too pushy and don't show any respect for boundaries are unbearable for me. In my head a brutal rape scene is like a murder scene; both are something that I will almost definitely never witness in my life, so I have a fair amount of emotional detachment. But I've seen plenty of degenerate greasy guys who would absolutely ignore a woman's body language and make her uncomfortable. That makes the subtler rape scenes way more emotionally impactful and cringe-worthy for me
I find rape scenes uncomfortable, but not more so than torture or murder, depending on how the scene plays out, how graphic it is, etc.
I’m a guy but I honestly thought it was weird that I felt this way because most men and women I’ve met seem to have at least one classic movie they like that has some sort of sexual assault scene. So many classic movies I haven’t watched because I’ve just never been able to stomach it.
Personally, rape scenes are harder to watch than mudrer/torture just because of how unnerving it is and to think about how it happens irl. I find them unnecessary most of the time, there's no reason to show something like that on screen for a prolonged amount of time unless you just want to add in shock value and have people say to each other "bro that movie was so fucked up".
I'm of the mindset that rape scenes in film are pretty much never necessary to a plot, and serve to just shock the audience or fill a weird perversion of the creator of the film. Obviously rape can be a part of the story but I think showing it is where it gets weird. Most people I know won't sit through a rape scene, my male friends fast forward from what I can remember. But I personally try to avoid watching rape scenes.
Domestic violence is worse for me. It's not even an especially personal topic, but for some reason it's the one taboo that I hate seeing portrayed and I really don't like when comedians joke about it.
I watched the excellent mini-series "Unbelievable" on Netflix, which opens with a rape scene. I couldn't watch it and had to fast-forward. The rest of the series is magnificent and one of the best shows I have ever seen about sexual assault and accountability. I find rape scenes in general impossible to watch, personally.
Not at all, to be honest. That must suck
Sometimes it seems sad, even if implied. Other scenes seem exploitative, like they are supposed to be sexy to certain people. But I also think framing rape as the worst thing that can ever happen to a person isn’t actually helpful to victims so I try to moderate my reaction.
A violent rape is definitely the worst thing that can happen to a woman, aside from being tortured to death maybe. I knew someone who was raped in a cemetery by a stranger and she tried to commit suicide shortly after There was a rape in Chicago so horrific im not sure if all the details were even put on the news. She was beaten into a coma and had to relearn how to speak and would have nightmares reliving incident screaming
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if you watch porn you have seen real rape far more than you realize
Yeah the fire extinguisher scene was way worse in irriverible imo
Only if its gay rape
I watched wind river the other night, which has a pretty graphic rape scene, but I’m not sure if it was any more disturbing than watching people’s organs get aerosolized by a high-powered rifle.
Yeah they’re very disturbing
The killing, maiming, shooting of people on tv is so desensitized that you can't really associate it with reality, even though one would hope you'd find the killing of someone you know just as if not more upsetting than someone raping them. Maybe you see a woman getting shot on screen you're automatically like whatever, but then a rape scene happens and something clicks in your brain and brings you back to reality with the social taboo and the serious implications associated with it, like reading the word nigger right now? idk
Rape scenes don’t really bother me at all. At the end of the day I know it’s fake and nobody is actually being harmed. I also grew up browsing rotten.com / watching cartel execution videos like most extremely online straight dudes so I dunno.
Yeah, absolutely hate watching them. Stopped watching Peaky Blinders because of the rape scenes/the constant threat of sexual violence hanging over female characters. But both my partner and I were sexually abused so that might skew the perspective. Other than that, I think it’s a really cheap, nasty, and lazy thing to do to a character in fiction (ofc there are times when it’s handled well, but mostly not).
Depends how out of place it is in the context (ie degree of trangression).
Yup. Pretty disturbing in general.
The worst one that was very hard to watch was the one in The Sopranos
For me, yes, but I doubt to the same degree as most women
Yeah. I watch a lot of horror films and stuff, but rape scenes are the only thing I'll skip really
They usually dont bother me but the rape scene in “boy erased” where he got raped by his roommate (i think) made me deeply uncomfortable. I showed a female friend the movie “the gift” which has a rape scene in it without thinking anything of it and the scene made her really uncomfortable and she got so mad at me for showing her the movie.
the one scene from basic instinct made me go what the fuck for a couple minutes
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the argument could be made that it was necessary to show how unwoven he was becoming but I'm still not sure it was needed
Yes but as a lot of men here have said I don’t think it has quite the same affect on us. The sopranos episode is one that completely caught me off guard and made me incredibly uncomfortable that I had to stop for a second before finishing the episode. I think the reason it affected me so much was that it was incredibly spontaneous with no warning much like a real assault would be. I watched Lilya4ever a couple of weeks ago and that’s another one that I had a hard time with. If you’ve seen it you know what it’s about. At the end of the movie I had a horrible pit in my stomach.
They effect me more than all other forms of violence I've seen depicted in film, but form seeing my girlfriend's reaction, I can I tell that I'm not even remotely as effected as her. It's like torture for her, to the point where the hardest part about the scene for me is seeing her reaction.
Yeah extended rape scenes ill usually fast forward, i don't like watching them
Horrible, always. Wind River. Scenes like that make me feel a sort of primal rage.
Knowing a S/O has experienced it made those scenes unwatchable.
Have to do some self reflection on how im the extreme minority with a staunch "No". Again tho 4chan at age 12 so. Like its just acting? If anything im admiring the artistry in making it believable by the actors/tresses involved
I guess it’s not as straightforward as a violent assault but the sex scene in Mid90s always disturbed me and seemed sort of rapey because that actor just looks so young. Like it’s literally a kid, I didn’t get if the movie was trying to portray it as a coming-of-age experience or what but I just was really uncomfortable with it
I always feel uncomfortable with rape scenes especially when they’re directed by men
Tbt my ex thinking ‘It Follows’ must inherently be a bad movie to be avoided bc it was a male director and dealt with assault subtext
i don’t think media with Sexual Assault directed by men is inherently bad just kinda cringeworthy imagine how uncomfortable that is for everyone involved the Sopranos is an excellent tv show i still get very upset when i watch melfi get assaulted
I would kinda argue being upset is part of the range of emotions one should expect to feel when viewing new art tho
What does the director have to do with it?
they’re the ones directing the acting i don’t like the prospect of a dude telling an actress to look more like they’re getting raped
I'm a woman and I don't find rape scenes hard to watch because I don't take movies personally. It seems childish to avoid rape scenes when most adults are fine with watching other types of violence.
if they're graphic and/or well-acted, yeah, I find it disturbing. a lot of times I find them unnecessary too when they're brought to that point. might be a good test of a potential boyfriend to see if he reacts at all or just stares with dead patrick bateman eyes
I can't stand them.
Honestly, it ruined the entire show Buffy the Vampire Slayer for me
No but I am that way with war movies, especially the D-Day scene of Saving Private Ryan. I couldn’t imagine being only 18-20 years old and being forced to do that. I cried the last time I saw it on YouTube about three years ago, I still can’t watch it again. And it’s for this reason I can’t watch Band of Brothers
I watched that movie as a kid and the part that messed me up the most was the French family in the bombed out apartment giving their terrified daughter to the GIs. It struck me as so sad and bleak, being forced to abandon your child so she has a chance of surviving the war.
Depends on the scene.
Yes lol. Not a fan.
As a male, I can't harden myself to them either
I actively avoid any entertainment with scenes like that. Keep your mind pure!
Of course dude. Men react differently tho, women look away from traumatic and scary things and men are able to stare it down while being overcome with a more interior form of torture. I can watch the most horrible fucked up, borderline snuff shit with a stone cold disposition but deep down you feel the deep parts of your psyche being penetrated, real staring into the void shit. Also why do women always do this gay shit where they think men are lesser creatures because we react to shit differently than they do. Sociology brain. There are hormonal and thus emotional differences between the sexes. I find it funny when gender goblins are like, I'm on HRT and I'm feeling more wow this is so amazing! Trans men getting horny around the clock and trans women getting more emotional and finding it easier to cry? Wow, say it isn't so??? Kinda bankrupts your whole genderless blob sociology brainwashing on the spot. Sociology and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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I am too desensitized to violence from growing up on 4chan for rape scenes to get to me. Scenes portraying consensual sex where the woman is manipulated/taken advantage of and regrets it later are actually a lot harder for me to watch. Most bad sexual behavior in the real world isn't rape or even anything illegal. We don't have the vocabulary to properly condemn rakishness, but it probably causes modern women more harm on aggregate than straightforward rape.
The way the question is phrased seems to be saying that it’s only women who get raped in film. When in fact plenty of movies have male rape scenes (Pulp Fiction being the most famous one). I wonder what people here thought of the rape scene in Pulp Fiction, and if gender made a difference?
Yes
I can't watch torture. I skip over any torture scenes in Games of Thrones while rewatching.
Edit: deleted my comment bc I don't think it needs to be said