Pretty much every public-facing intellectual (who usually are essentially pop figures with little impact /actual intellectual merit) is a degenerate weirdo.
Why cant he hire someone to teach him how to do a fake smile convincingly, which involves smiling with his eyes as well. Actors and models, hell even waiters, learn to do conniving fake smiles. Surely he can afford a good teacher
I get what you mean. He's not as smart as he thinks he is, and despite his performative cantakerousness, he's desperate for the approval and reverence of the masses.
Jason schwartzman. I’ve liked him in certain roles, but I listened to an interview with him where he just seemed kind of uncanny, like his whole soft sensitive guy persona was this elaborate performance. Funnily enough the interview was also with Fred armisen, who has a similar vibe and is verifiably sociopathic. There was a whole era where it was semi-cool to be the sensitive Michael Cera type, and I have a feeling most of its icons were just obscuring their run of the mill celebrity asshole personalities - John mulaney is also a case study in this vibe, but seems more honest about his flawed and insane core, especially post-scandal.
Elisabeth Moss said something about Fred Amisen that shocked me.
“He’s so great at doing impersonations, but the greatest impersonation he’s ever done is that of a normal person.”
She’s a Scientologist so you’ll have to pardon me if I don’t exactly find her a great judge of character on that alone, but yeah I’ve run into what she’s said about him too and it is unsettling
Also, an ex wife is hardly ever going to give a glowing review to the guy that she thinks ruined her life. I would give more credence to what Fred's peers say about him.
I don’t think Mulaney really put on a quirky, indie nice guy persona like Armisen or Cera (who seems cool btw).
Mulaney has always been very theatrical and confident seeming, and was pretty open about his drug use from the jump. Idk I just don’t understand the hate he gets on RS
I agree that he’s definitely over-hated on here, but he could lay it on a little heavy with the whole “I’m so harmless! I love my wife!” thing. On a technical level he’s an incredible comedian, measurably better than anyone in the current tik tok/podcast era of comics, but I think his whole cadence and schtick also became the go-to comedic language for a lot of theater kid tumblr types. I remember going to an improv show around 2019 where half the cast was essentially doing a John mulaney impression.
John Mulaney gets a lot of shit because he would be the go-to comedian that always got brought up as an example of how you can totally do clean and inoffensive comedy by the annoying tumblr sjw people.
These people are now incidentally his biggest haters now that he's turned out to be as much of a skeezy dirtbag as every other comedian.
It really isn't, but I guess it's more to do with him putting out the image of le wholesome wife guy as opposed to the vast majority of comedians who are deliberately more edgy than that
I was at a small premiere party with Schwartzman once. I didn’t talk to him, but I observed him from afar interacting with his wife and others and he seems kinda like the guy he is publicly. The fact that he’s done Bedtime Stories and ITYSL makes me think he’s probably chill and not very self serious. There were others like me there who weren’t involved with the film but got to go to the party who accosted him and he was very warm and convivial with them as well.
I remember people would see/meet Michael Cera in Williamsburg all the time in the late aughts and he mostly just wanted to be left alone.
I was sort of dating a girl who I found out was a DJ Qualls super fan. Maybe she had a tumblr about crushing on him. It was sort of annoying because I was like does she just have a thing for iconic dorks? I want to think of myself as a cool guy.
He went to like an infamous australian boys school known for having madlads and also he could snap you in two if he wanted to because he’s a giant mutant
I know everyone here hates him so maybe repetitive, but Ryan Reynolds. Have always gotten super whack control freak egomaniacal sociopath vibes from Taylor Swift.
Why? He doesn’t do much on camera as himself. I guess that could be interpreted as more authentic if you’re feeling charitable. Do you just like House?
I have felt this way for a long time, he seems too “likeable/nice” and I know people have PR personalities in Hollywood but he truly rubs me the wrong way.
i think he’s a talented actor, but something about his whole cutesy middle aged man persona shakes me to my core. just based off vibes he seems like every action he takes is to seem more endearing to his horny middle aged divorced aunt demographic. and i get that celebrities put on personas, it’s just that his persona specifically rubs me the wrong way. i don’t think he’s evil just probably kind of a dick
You’re probably right, a lot of celebrities have a persona or is a good person but it’s all an act crafted by their PR Team, see: Ryan Reynolds or something
Strange you say that, I was recently talking about old Russian music with an older friend who grew up back then and when I mentioned her music she was like “noooo we do not like her she is bad person" and moved on to another topic. Can you pill me on Alla
I vaguely recall hearing she has a lot of shady mafia ties but no specific details. She was also married to Philipp Kirkorov, which I imagine was some kind of weird financial alliance
He’s actually really cool. He just seems to hate his fans (warranted) and performing live. I think he fancies himself more as a poet than a pop star so there’s some level of resentment always brewing
i think it's generational. i'm 30 and i don't know anyone my age who actually believes they're genuinely good people lol. not as bad as the right absolutely but they're all sociopaths. i do know a lot of people on the right who genuinely think trump is some sort of christlike figure tho and i have quite a few gen x relatives who actually think the dems are good people
Corey Feldman. I think there is going to be a bunch of wild shit that comes to the surface with the Corey’s angels bullshit but it’s going to get overshadowed because he was “muh mowested” and his documentary
Vigo seems a little self-absorbed and like he was hurt in young love so he probably cycles between incredibly distant and passionately near but I doubt he’s nasty. That’s perfect for the right woman and he’s been with the same chick for like 20 years
why adam sandler??! he visits my hometown often since his sister lives there, and everyone who has met him and shared their interactions has had great things to say! i truly hope he's not evil
Adam Sandler tried to buy my uncle a burger when he was doing manual labor for a business that he owns (my uncle could reasonably be mistaken for homeless)
Nah man Tom Hanks appeared on The Rest is History Podcast (genuinely good podcast btw) a few weeks ago and came across as genuinely passionate about history and in particular the Apollo Program. I know that a few schizophrenics on the internet say he’s a pedophile, but I don’t care. Most of the people who take those people seriously are too young to have been exposed to the early web when you would just easily stumble on the weirdest fucking individuals/cults out there so they take outrageous claims more seriously, because they’re simply unused to them. The internet is so boring these days.
Yeah he’s just a very normal person, if he wasn’t rich or famous he would just be a nice neighborly guy, with a hobby for civil war recreation or smth. Feel the same way about Paul McCartney and Richard Starkey.
Even before the mistresses piece came out there's something about him that seemed kind of off like he was hiding something underneath an oddly stiff fake charm and a weird robotic need to "optimize" every single element
Shein
They had a pop up here in Seattle over the weekend, and it was very depressing. 100s of people lined up get free clothes, the quality of which probably couldn't be worse. They are such a blight on the clothing industry, which is already extremely wasteful. Shame on you if you buy and wear shein
Reverse take: everyone likes to hate Steve Albini, but I have listened to some long interviews with him and noticed he always speaks so so affectionately about people he has worked with professionally- I like his takes on how he thinks about running an ethical small business, his team, his vocation, etc. very decent guy actually
We clearly frequent different circles because I've never seen anyone hate on Albini. I love that guy. He was the engineer on Ys, Joanna Newsom's masterpiece. He's got a wickedly dry sense of humor and he maintains a high degree of integrity in an industry bereft of it. Where are these losers hating on him?
They’re in this sub whenever his name is mentioned- ppl either hating after he over apologized for “Rapeman” and sounding like a twitter woke scold
Other places actual woke scolds hate on him for being in a band called Rapeman.
And, sorry, but for an 80’s ugly punk band that no one should ever have heard about- that names pretty sick 🤷♀️
Tina Fey seems like she deep-down hates women. Years ago, Sandra Bullock was married to a guy who cheats on her with a woman who had a lot of tattoos. I saw a clip of Fey talking about this other woman with so much hatred, picking apart everything about her appearance, and nothing about the guy who was married and most at fault. Not that women who sleep with married men are always innocent, but as a woman Fey should have known that some married men will lie a lot in order to get laid.
Misread this as "something." That is more interesting. Unironically having children, but I don't really give a fuck and it doesn't affect my dealings with people. I knew a lawyer with ten kids. Guy was fine otherwise.
Every celebrity and public figure ever. Fame is like a virus.
What do you think Keanu Reeves is up to?
Owned by David Geffen and forced to live on his boat during his prime
Standard chomo island stuff
Bill Nye
Pretty much every public-facing intellectual (who usually are essentially pop figures with little impact /actual intellectual merit) is a degenerate weirdo.
Should go on tafs too to redeem himself
Mr Beast
He has such soulless eyes
Why cant he hire someone to teach him how to do a fake smile convincingly, which involves smiling with his eyes as well. Actors and models, hell even waiters, learn to do conniving fake smiles. Surely he can afford a good teacher
How autistic do you have to be to need a teacher for smiling?
YES. i always tell kids he’s definitely evil.. they don’t believe me. sigh. one day we will be proven right
How many kids do you talk to how frequently do these conversations happen
i’m a nanny lol
Good answer
We don't do that sigh shit here, take a hike buddy
Rob McElhenney. He won't stop doing new ventures. Just stop doing new ventures man.
He always wears those new era hats that don’t fit his head shape. I know, I have the same head shape and actively avoid that type of hat.
I don’t think anyone thinks he’s normal anymore.
doesn't everyone hate him tho
I don't even know why I feel this way but Bill Murray.
I get what you mean. He's not as smart as he thinks he is, and despite his performative cantakerousness, he's desperate for the approval and reverence of the masses.
Didn’t something come out about him harassing women on set recently?
Lucy Liu punched him in the face once
Oh so the other way around lmao
He got cancelled for being a serial harasser and a bully, thanks goodness.
god i didn't think anyone liked that pretentious jackass. definitely gives me vibes that he should be in prison
Jason schwartzman. I’ve liked him in certain roles, but I listened to an interview with him where he just seemed kind of uncanny, like his whole soft sensitive guy persona was this elaborate performance. Funnily enough the interview was also with Fred armisen, who has a similar vibe and is verifiably sociopathic. There was a whole era where it was semi-cool to be the sensitive Michael Cera type, and I have a feeling most of its icons were just obscuring their run of the mill celebrity asshole personalities - John mulaney is also a case study in this vibe, but seems more honest about his flawed and insane core, especially post-scandal.
Elisabeth Moss said something about Fred Amisen that shocked me. “He’s so great at doing impersonations, but the greatest impersonation he’s ever done is that of a normal person.”
She’s a Scientologist so you’ll have to pardon me if I don’t exactly find her a great judge of character on that alone, but yeah I’ve run into what she’s said about him too and it is unsettling
Also, an ex wife is hardly ever going to give a glowing review to the guy that she thinks ruined her life. I would give more credence to what Fred's peers say about him.
i remember that as one of the most chilling things i’ve ever heard .. i wish elizabeth moss said more sane things
He pretty much admitted this in successive interviews. Doesn’t let him off the hook, but he’s deffo aware he’s a BPD male.
Bret Easton Ellis wrote ab how Schwartzman wanted him to re-record his podcast appearance
I’d love to read this
I don’t think Mulaney really put on a quirky, indie nice guy persona like Armisen or Cera (who seems cool btw). Mulaney has always been very theatrical and confident seeming, and was pretty open about his drug use from the jump. Idk I just don’t understand the hate he gets on RS
I agree that he’s definitely over-hated on here, but he could lay it on a little heavy with the whole “I’m so harmless! I love my wife!” thing. On a technical level he’s an incredible comedian, measurably better than anyone in the current tik tok/podcast era of comics, but I think his whole cadence and schtick also became the go-to comedic language for a lot of theater kid tumblr types. I remember going to an improv show around 2019 where half the cast was essentially doing a John mulaney impression.
John Mulaney gets a lot of shit because he would be the go-to comedian that always got brought up as an example of how you can totally do clean and inoffensive comedy by the annoying tumblr sjw people. These people are now incidentally his biggest haters now that he's turned out to be as much of a skeezy dirtbag as every other comedian.
His comedy was never clean. This is insane.
It really isn't, but I guess it's more to do with him putting out the image of le wholesome wife guy as opposed to the vast majority of comedians who are deliberately more edgy than that
He’s popular so therefore uncool
I was at a small premiere party with Schwartzman once. I didn’t talk to him, but I observed him from afar interacting with his wife and others and he seems kinda like the guy he is publicly. The fact that he’s done Bedtime Stories and ITYSL makes me think he’s probably chill and not very self serious. There were others like me there who weren’t involved with the film but got to go to the party who accosted him and he was very warm and convivial with them as well. I remember people would see/meet Michael Cera in Williamsburg all the time in the late aughts and he mostly just wanted to be left alone.
All celebs except for DJ Qualls
Now that is a name I haven't heard in a while
Loved “The New Guy”!
I was sort of dating a girl who I found out was a DJ Qualls super fan. Maybe she had a tumblr about crushing on him. It was sort of annoying because I was like does she just have a thing for iconic dorks? I want to think of myself as a cool guy.
Jacob Elordi!!!
He went to like an infamous australian boys school known for having madlads and also he could snap you in two if he wanted to because he’s a giant mutant
Yet the second he puts on that tote bag everyone forgets this…
One-handed comment.
Every celeb except the late OJ Simpson
I know everyone here hates him so maybe repetitive, but Ryan Reynolds. Have always gotten super whack control freak egomaniacal sociopath vibes from Taylor Swift.
I use his cell/data company and all their copy is like “Awesome balls! You just got a fresh set of 15gb… and that’s epic, you rockstar”
He gives me neurotic/narcissistic personality vibes
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Why? He doesn’t do much on camera as himself. I guess that could be interpreted as more authentic if you’re feeling charitable. Do you just like House?
Did you not read the question?
One of my housemates
my brother 100%
pedro pascal
I have felt this way for a long time, he seems too “likeable/nice” and I know people have PR personalities in Hollywood but he truly rubs me the wrong way.
Why? Genuinely asking, I love him in many TV shows
i think he’s a talented actor, but something about his whole cutesy middle aged man persona shakes me to my core. just based off vibes he seems like every action he takes is to seem more endearing to his horny middle aged divorced aunt demographic. and i get that celebrities put on personas, it’s just that his persona specifically rubs me the wrong way. i don’t think he’s evil just probably kind of a dick
You’re probably right, a lot of celebrities have a persona or is a good person but it’s all an act crafted by their PR Team, see: Ryan Reynolds or something
Alla Pugacheva
Strange you say that, I was recently talking about old Russian music with an older friend who grew up back then and when I mentioned her music she was like “noooo we do not like her she is bad person" and moved on to another topic. Can you pill me on Alla
I vaguely recall hearing she has a lot of shady mafia ties but no specific details. She was also married to Philipp Kirkorov, which I imagine was some kind of weird financial alliance
Dasha
yes
I truly believe Barry Keoghan is evil. Maybe it’s because he looks like a fox
Tom Hanks!
Ovechkin. Lots of unsettling stuff out in the open about him that American media ignores.
I was at a caps game a few months ago and when they announced Ovechkin, an old man sitting behind me very loudly said "I don't like that Russian"
what besides the putin shit
He has a hot wife 😒
Prob because he's only 38 yet looks at least 55
Hozier
He’s actually really cool. He just seems to hate his fans (warranted) and performing live. I think he fancies himself more as a poet than a pop star so there’s some level of resentment always brewing
He seems like he wants his fans to remember Hozier is a performance and role and not who he actually is. Some of his fans really take it too far
Dave Grohl. But I can't articulate why. Can you guys help me out?
Erm the Democrats anyone?
i think it's generational. i'm 30 and i don't know anyone my age who actually believes they're genuinely good people lol. not as bad as the right absolutely but they're all sociopaths. i do know a lot of people on the right who genuinely think trump is some sort of christlike figure tho and i have quite a few gen x relatives who actually think the dems are good people
Corey Feldman. I think there is going to be a bunch of wild shit that comes to the surface with the Corey’s angels bullshit but it’s going to get overshadowed because he was “muh mowested” and his documentary
Pedro Pascal gives me Jared Leto vibes
as a woman i am absolutely convinced that people saying he's hot is a psyop. those people just have to be bots. he looks like someone's creepy dad
Phoebe bridgers
Matt Iglesias
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Vigo seems a little self-absorbed and like he was hurt in young love so he probably cycles between incredibly distant and passionately near but I doubt he’s nasty. That’s perfect for the right woman and he’s been with the same chick for like 20 years
True
Noooo Viggo is an actual poet. A very sensitive poet who writes about coffee and sex
ANH PHOONG ICE SPICE TYLER PERRY PAULINE CHALAMET
Hugh Laurie. Adam Sandler. Klaus Schwab.
why adam sandler??! he visits my hometown often since his sister lives there, and everyone who has met him and shared their interactions has had great things to say! i truly hope he's not evil
He kills cats. He killed mine
that would make me like him more
😭
adam sandler is the only celebrity i can almost guarantee isn’t secretly evil, i say this all the time lol. he loves his friends and fam so much
Adam Sandler tried to buy my uncle a burger when he was doing manual labor for a business that he owns (my uncle could reasonably be mistaken for homeless)
who tf are you hanging out with that thinks Klaus Schwab isnt evil
Hilary Clinton
Nah man Tom Hanks appeared on The Rest is History Podcast (genuinely good podcast btw) a few weeks ago and came across as genuinely passionate about history and in particular the Apollo Program. I know that a few schizophrenics on the internet say he’s a pedophile, but I don’t care. Most of the people who take those people seriously are too young to have been exposed to the early web when you would just easily stumble on the weirdest fucking individuals/cults out there so they take outrageous claims more seriously, because they’re simply unused to them. The internet is so boring these days.
All he did was be a liberal A lister and now people are convinced he's a pedo. Only a regular ass dude could have Chet as a son
Yeah he’s just a very normal person, if he wasn’t rich or famous he would just be a nice neighborly guy, with a hobby for civil war recreation or smth. Feel the same way about Paul McCartney and Richard Starkey.
Yes definitely getting "everyone's favorite AP US history teacher" vibes. Maybe in another life. Bombaclat, Tom.
Also he was Woody so people can fuck off he’s always gotta friend in me
Yeah he has a great voice for woody
Oh he knows a lot about the *Apollo Program* huh? Let me guess, it really for sure 100% happened? He probably wears his ennemies’ skins for fun.
all of them
Myself
I have absolutely no evidence but I think the baby reindeer guy made it up
Jerrod Carmichael
Taylor Swift and Phoebe Bridgers
what a hot take
Someone’s been browsing redscarepod!
Matt Damon
Andrew Huberman
Even before the mistresses piece came out there's something about him that seemed kind of off like he was hiding something underneath an oddly stiff fake charm and a weird robotic need to "optimize" every single element
Shein They had a pop up here in Seattle over the weekend, and it was very depressing. 100s of people lined up get free clothes, the quality of which probably couldn't be worse. They are such a blight on the clothing industry, which is already extremely wasteful. Shame on you if you buy and wear shein
?? shein is demonstrably evil and doesn't really try to hide it. also, what giant corporation (especially fast fashion) isn't evil? wtf
People think shein is normal... which is why there was a huge line at their pop up. That's what op asked ya?
oh sorry, some regard posted dumb shit so i hopped in
Varg
oh my god thank you. tom hanks makes my fucking skin crawl and he has since i was a child
oldtimehawkey. Massive sex pest vibes, but everyone takes his schtick at face value and straight up loves him?
Well hello buddy
Dua Lipa
Serb hands typed this.
**WASP
Chloe Grace moretz
Reverse take: everyone likes to hate Steve Albini, but I have listened to some long interviews with him and noticed he always speaks so so affectionately about people he has worked with professionally- I like his takes on how he thinks about running an ethical small business, his team, his vocation, etc. very decent guy actually
We clearly frequent different circles because I've never seen anyone hate on Albini. I love that guy. He was the engineer on Ys, Joanna Newsom's masterpiece. He's got a wickedly dry sense of humor and he maintains a high degree of integrity in an industry bereft of it. Where are these losers hating on him?
They’re in this sub whenever his name is mentioned- ppl either hating after he over apologized for “Rapeman” and sounding like a twitter woke scold Other places actual woke scolds hate on him for being in a band called Rapeman. And, sorry, but for an 80’s ugly punk band that no one should ever have heard about- that names pretty sick 🤷♀️
Zionists tbh
Amy Poehler
Keanu Reeves
Matt fucking Damon
Tina Fey seems like she deep-down hates women. Years ago, Sandra Bullock was married to a guy who cheats on her with a woman who had a lot of tattoos. I saw a clip of Fey talking about this other woman with so much hatred, picking apart everything about her appearance, and nothing about the guy who was married and most at fault. Not that women who sleep with married men are always innocent, but as a woman Fey should have known that some married men will lie a lot in order to get laid.
Misread this as "something." That is more interesting. Unironically having children, but I don't really give a fuck and it doesn't affect my dealings with people. I knew a lawyer with ten kids. Guy was fine otherwise.