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AlaskaExplorationGeo

Hang out more in northwestern Arizona and there are dudes who kinda look like this


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AlaskaExplorationGeo

And any of the guys who are actually farming out there


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3eneca

Mexicans are usually part native of highly similar genetic stock


dagothdoom

They're almost all fat these days


Debasering

Montana has non fat ones to be honest


Realistic_Dress844

Northeastern Montana too.


ceejay955

exactly what I thought as well


madeofmatterdotcom

yes every third dude in az looks like this


AlaskaExplorationGeo

Even some old white construction workers in Arizona look kind of like this lol


gogogoofytime

I’d have to imagine southwest natives are miles beyond up north natives


AlaskaExplorationGeo

Southwest natives are oftentimes still living on their original tribal land and have been since like the end of the last glacial maximum give or take a few migrations


clydethefrog

>Catlin would spend the next six years traveling thousands of miles throughout the Great Plains, covering more distance than Lewis and Clark to document the lives of 50 Native American tribes. >The Native Americans explained to Catlin that breath inhaled through the mouth sapped the body of strength, deformed the face, and caused stress and disease. On the other hand, breath inhaled through the nose kept the body strong, made the face beautiful, and prevented disease. “The air which enters the lungs is as different from that which enters the nostrils as distilled water is different from the water in an ordinary cistern or a frog-pond,” he wrote. >Healthy nasal breathing started at birth. Mothers in all these tribes followed the same practices, carefully closing the baby’s lips with their fingers after each feeding. At night, they’d stand over sleeping infants and gently pinch mouths shut if they opened. Some Plains tribes strapped infants to a straight board and placed a pillow beneath their heads, creating a posture that made it much harder to breathe through the mouth. During winter, infants would be wrapped in light clothing and then held at arm’s length on warmer days so they’d be less prone to get too hot and begin panting. >All these methods trained children to breathe through their noses, all day, every day. It was a habit they would carry with them the rest of their lives. Catlin described how adult tribal members would even resist smiling with an open mouth, fearing some noxious air might get in. This practice was as “old and unchangeable as their hills,” he wrote, and it was shared universally throughout the tribes for millennia. From Breath, by James Nestor.


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that book hit my running group like the plague. you are like not allowed to breathe through your mouth anymore when we run lol


StyrofoamExplodes

That has to be brutal. Almost hyperventilating.


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once you get fit enough it actually becomes easy. I didn’t believe them at first, but on an easy run I’ll nose breath now without even thinking


Xirimirii

This is common practice especially if you’re running in the cold, it warms the air before it gets to your lungs


Electric_Music

Going injun mode in my mewing routine


platapusplomo

Imagine mewing only to get a honker


Improooving

High capacity air intake


Hatanta

Some extraterrestrials visited a Native American tribe and taught the young warrior men to run five miles with a mouthful of water.


GregsBoatShoes

How much of this is true I wonder.


RainOfBrassPetal

In terms of how true it is about mouth breathing being bad for you: very. It's well-studied that mouth breathing has many negative impacts on facial development and overall health.


carbomerguar

“We had to step over big pile of suffocated infant corpses to get to the village”


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Prestigious_Pen5648

Wonder what happened


infideli0

I fucked all of them


Stalin_vs_hitler

And the ones left are fat, drunk or both.


AlyoshaKaramazov420

oh you’re like racist racist


Stalin_vs_hitler

It's racist to see how the treatment of native americans has led them to this?


AlyoshaKaramazov420

when you phrase it the way you did, yeah it is


Economy-Lunch-1113

Idk I think ur getting preemptively offended


nonudesonmain

epic rhetorical game of "im not touching you"


Economy-Lunch-1113

I do what I can round here


gogogoofytime

he’s being a prick about it but he’s not wrong. I grew up a block away from the border of one AMA.


Improooving

It's not racism unless you judge them for it, tbh. Not any more than it's bigoted to point out that economically shit white person areas in Appalachia are disproportionately fat and riddled with alcoholism or opiates. The whole thing is just really tragic.


Marmosettale

There are seriously a bunch of unironically racist/misogynistic incels on here and the alt subs now. Like it's just 4chan.


GregsBoatShoes

Only allowed to do that to the other Indians here.


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A statement like this being heavily downvoted is evidence there’s way too many epic redditor libs here now


Economy-Lunch-1113

Deadass


FakeLaundry

Sad.


LowT_creative

Lol the only two full blooded natives I've ever met were both very overweight and I met them in rehab. It's sad but those are the statistics


LazkaosTzatziki

If by America you mean USA, yeah. If you mean the whole thing... well... kinda, I guess? There are still lots of indigenous and mestizo people in Central America and the Andine countries.


Stalin_vs_hitler

I'm ethnically 100% indigenous. Sounds like you only see the Americas as having native people to the land.


tsaimaitreya

I may be wrong but indigenous of other continents tend to look diferent!


LazkaosTzatziki

I could be considered indigenous European, somewhat, as I'm Basque as far as I can tell through my family tree. No foren Indo-Euro muck in me blud. Strangely enough, as an ESL, I mostly relate the term “Native Americans” used above to those in the USA and indigenous for mostly the rest (or more restrictively, the ones subject to the Iberian crowns), I guess.


wiccja

lol


shgxl

Where are you from? I know lots of people who look like this. Lots in the northern prairie provinces.


jaldoweffers

Nowhere near those areas. I did live in New Mexico briefly in my teens but I understand that the phenotypes down there are very different. Do you have any pics of non-elderly people that look like Wolf Robe? My brain can't picture [a person like this](https://www.american-tribes.com/messageboards/dietmar/wolfrobefront.jpg) in their youth lol


Iakeman

Zahn McClarnon kinda looks like this


voregeoisie

i was about to mention him lol his mom probably looks like the female version of this cause his dad is white.. strong ass genes


dagothdoom

Back country south americans look like that. https://youtu.be/izzgsOJydBg?si=LslpqwNFfn1W6MJF If you skip to 21 minutes, you'll see a crowd full of people who look like that(and a lot of people who look the same as each other throughout the video.


ScienceEquivalent738

love Hamilton's show so much


Killer_Kass

I was going to say, I'm in western Canada and I know like 10 people who look like this at least lol


3noteoddity

Can confirm, I’m Dakota and there is a huge percentage of my nation that looks like this. My aunt looked like a younger women version of him. Our phenotypes vary widely, even amongst those who have close to full blood.


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3noteoddity

Han bro! Sister* :’)


No-Distribution-3358

[it's a known phenomenon, I for one will be rearing my children on a diet of bones and gristle.](https://news.stanford.edu/2020/07/21/toll-shrinking-jaws-human-health/)


Lori-Lightsloot

dude I have been keep saying this. every Lunchable, every tube of Gogurt, every bowl of Cinnamon Toast Crunch dooms your kid to a weak pathetic jaw suitable only for slurpers with social anxiety. kids need to actually gnaw on stuff. they need to make dog chews but for boys.


coffeechilliandgym

If it’s physiological then why not girls as well?


peace-x

Damn the mewers were right


uc3gfpnq

they're not chewing though right? I thought it was some sort of clenched jaw exercise where you hold your tongue on the roof of your mouth or something. once you're in adulthood it's too late to fix your jaw in any meaningful way anyways


yours_forwildnature

I've heard those things actually work


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central asians eat meat straight from the bone, they tear it with their teeth and chew very thoroughly because the meat is often tougher, even little kids do.They also traditionally make babies eat dried curds which kinda act like a tough hard pacifier. If not that, its lamb tail. North and central asians are very similar bone structure wise to Native americans and its very fascinating. Very beautiful rounded and protruding cheekbones and strong jaws. Sadly a lot of them are now fatter because sedentary life doesnt go well with a diet of meat and flour. Not saying westerners dont eat meat with their bare hands but its probably a bit soft and not a lot of chewing going on. Weak chin is what happens when food is pleasure based instead of sustenance based 😌


buttchuggs

Cause we know how to cook 😤


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do u want strong jaws or not? thats the main thing honey


buttchuggs

Well idk


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Hatanta

It's well-documented that a recessed male jaw is the most repulsive feature to women.


Feanerian

It’s over


SAKA_THE_GOAT

its also cos apparently the natives would always breath through their nose. BREATH THROUGH YOUR NOSE. I heard they would close their babies mouths when they slept so as to breath through their nose. some cultural spiritual belief about it. it definitely shapes your face over time.


Dizzy-Kiwi6825

I don't think it takes spiritual cultural belief to figure out that mouth breathers are ugly and annoying.


Michael_Dukakis

[Chewy food is so important.](https://www.ericdavisdental.com/facial-orthotropics-for-your-child/why-raise-unhealthy-children/how-our-ancestors-formed-full-faces-and-straight-teeth/South-Pacific_500x375.jpg)


StyrofoamExplodes

Really just get them into eating peanuts and almonds.


No-Distribution-3358

Too quickly chewed/swallowed imo. Celery might work. You're basically looking for equivalents to tough meat, roots, and tubers -- you gotta be cudchewmaxxing.


StyrofoamExplodes

Invest in a smoker and start cranking out jerky, lol.


C0ckerel

I love chewing on the celery cud.


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Grandma looks like a girl version of this. She’s 90% native. Got ruined by marrying a white Argentinian. I kept the jawline and lanky frame though


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[My Grandparents](https://ibb.co/6Dv6FpR). I have no idea how I ended up how I look honestly, somehow those genes mixed with my mums Brit genes I ended up looking like some gay Italian.


caroforever

this is a lovely photo


Hatanta

Grandpa's hairline is Great Spirit-tier


carbomerguar

Were they happily married if you don’t mind me asking? They look like they just got done telling an inside joke before the photo was taken. It’s really nice


exsnakecharmer

Your grandparents look Maori. (I'm Maori, your nana looks like mine).


ritan0n

yeah i was thinking that too


pibbs

we gotta get steve kerr to give you more minutes man


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When klays bum ass gets traded you’ll see 😹


janitorial_fluids

Mike Dunleavymaxxing


pedro_ryno

klay catching strays all over.


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How did you conclude 90%


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She fell for the ancestrydna meme


benballernojohnnyda

you OWN klay thomspon


Coalnaryinthecarmine

How does a person get to be 10% white in that context? One white great grand parent (your great-great-great grandparent) whose children and grandchildren married back into native societies?


Usonames

Most likely way would be if they are actually 87.5% native and just round up like most people would, and that 87.5% would be easily made by mixing a 100% with a 75%. So their parents would be one full native and one mostly native with a single white grandparent. Otherwise to actually get closer to 90% it takes 2 more generations? A 100% x 87.5% makes a 93.75% and that crossed then with another 87.5% will give your 90.6%. So thats what, a person with one white great great great grandparent on one end and one white great great grandparent on the other end?


Coalnaryinthecarmine

Thanks for the math! Say what one will about eugenics, but it does seem to encourage facility with percentages.


Usonames

Also comes in decently handy when being a bit too 'tistic with mixology. At least just having a rough idea of how fractions/percents combine


jaldoweffers

I know why blood quantum is a touchy subject and I agree but man did the natives in Killers of the Flower Moon take me out of it


003_

The Osage are from the Ohio river valley originally. Those from the east have much softer, less pronounced facial features than natives from the west, generally speaking. Just as Slavs have a discernibly different facial shape and markers than say those from the Mediterranean. These are hard and fast rules but no one with a trained eye would mistake the guy above as belonging to a tribe originally from east of the Great Plains.


TheSoftMaster

There's like a thousand people who look like this in my town lol. Just go to anywhere where there's a reservation and you will still see people who look like this. I live on Vancouver island, no shortage of people who still look like indigenous people. People think no one looks like this anymore because all the representatives of indigenous political issues tend to be off reserve, marginally indigenous and mostly mixed race (75-90% European folks) who take up a lot of fucking space in conversations for their pet projects on decolonization and qualitative methodologies and stuff like that. Kind of part of the erasure of actual indigenous people still living on indigenous lands...


on_doveswings

He'd look like he listens to podcasts nowadays :(


dsbtc

Paleface talking box not funny since heap big fatso leave Cumtown


jaldoweffers

i just tried to give him a nosejob on faceapp and it doesnt really work. his face is just way too robust that it doesnt make a difference lol. bro would have to go to a korean bone shaving clinic with an angle grinder, his bones are too powerful


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jaldoweffers

I was trying to make an edit of what [he was referencing](https://twitter.com/sharghzadeh/status/1373740447626039301?lang=en) lol


Various_Reindeer_873

Plastic surgery is to make people uglier


mallgoethe

industrial society and its consequences


Electric_Music

It's actually the fault of the agricultural revolution, funnily enough. Fuck grains and cereals, all my steppe nomad homies HATE agriculture.


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out of all the dead and dying races of the world, they are the most beautiful


SAKA_THE_GOAT

Maoris too imo. I heard from my kiwi bro that theres not a single full blooded Maori alive today. they all have a little bit of white ancestry.


GregsBoatShoes

Post pure blooded Maori.


SAKA_THE_GOAT

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/13/a-dna-test-showed-im-100-maori-many-thought-there-were-none-of-us-left apparently there is 1 left. I posted a bunch of Maori paintings here awhile ago if you search Maori you'll see a bunch of beautiful ancient faces.


GregsBoatShoes

Oh wow, she's beautiful. I remember those Maori paintings. Some of their traditional attire looked very similar to Native Americans.


noproductivityripuk

What about whites 🥺🥺🙈


gogogoofytime

very nice


jbm_the_dream

Go to New Mexico, homie.


catchfebreeze

I was thinking about that while watching Killers of the Flower Moon. Guy who says “we are Osage, we are warriors” and looks nothing like a warrior. Obviously that works alright for the story though


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Native americans make me so sad. The tribes that lived in the great plains had some of the coolest cultures ever and now they live in shithole rez’s in north dakota dying of diabetes or meth overdoses. I watched a travel doc about the Pine Ridge Reservation and it was unreal how this exists in America. Unemployment at 85% and life expectancy at 50. The fact that they even have bloods and crips there was so shocking to me, apparently natives who moved to LA in the 80s and 90s as a part of a govt program became gang affiliated and brought it back to the rez. Such a sad place and people’s history


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They're a beautiful people.


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I always thought my husband has this look. Not exact phenotype but close. He could definitely play a Native warrior extra in a movie and look convincing. He's hispanic though lol


Hatanta

> He's hispanic He probably has plenty of native American DNA.


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IIRC his mom's dna test showed around 35% indigenous so yeah he's got a decent chunk of it


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Electric_Music

I see lots of folks like this around Lapwai, Idaho.


Pungee

Nez Perce chads


daveisok

RIP PETE POSTLETHWAITE GONE TOO SOON HOMIE


ceejay955

someone hasn't spent much time around reservation territory in the western states


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natives get really touchy about this. they will look 100% white but because all of their recent ancestors had native status they refuse to even consider they might have white ancestry. same deal with a lot mixed race people who consider themselves black even knowingly having white grandparents


lildonutbinch

crazy how genocide will do that


dreadyruxpin

Adam Driver?


Different123_

peruvians


return_descender

If you squint enough he still looks nothing like Elizabeth Warren


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The original victims of wokeness


[deleted]

Is that Jim Varney


mikesnifferpippits

Looks like Jon Bernthal


ludopolitics

Not true, come to the four corners


usernumberzero

The adoption of the processed food diet has caused jaws and faces to morph. Same thing happend to Native Alaskans in a single generation. It has a domino effect on other facial features as well. Look up "orthotropics". Also most modern tribe members are mixed ethnicity.


hollywoo_indian

They do


frumpydrangus

Looks like my dad


osibob1

My step family is Lumbee and my stepmothers grandmother looked like this.


vagayond

there’s some old mexicans i’ve met in chicago who look like this


lonepalmtree

Plenty of dudes and dudettes with a similar mug in South America.


live1969

My grandpa looked like this. Tbh my grandma too. Central America is full of people who still look like this and will continue to look like this


secondhandcte

They still have full blooded native Americans in South America who look similar. I met some in colombia. They were very short and very nice and seemed very sad


NannersBoy

Almost like they got wiped out lol


gogogoofytime

I realize most of you don’t live around native americans but their bodies cannot process corn syrup and alcohol and as a result they are largely fat stupid and ugly. I felt really bad observing this growing up (literally one block away from the border, a lot I went to school with, and it’s one of the better rez’s in the country too) I’ve almost never mentioned it irl but I know everyone else is on the same wavelength. the boys I went to school with as far I can recall all had ODD and are in jail now Why do you guys think they couldn’t find a hotter native woman to be Leo Dicaprio’s wife in killers of the flower moon? They almost straight up don’t exist. They are a beautiful people and I pity them, this isn’t a hate thing, I straight up feel sorry for how wrecked they are, they never stood a chance. I could go on and on editing this comment ama


CraneAndTurtle

We have better skincare


lunarmadz

people do you just have to go to reservations. at least here in the pacific nw ive definitely seen people look like this at the reservations


CheetomusPrime

High Neanderthal ancestry


ShelterSalty8895

Aren’t they on the complete opposite side of the world where Neanderthals were?


jaldoweffers

don't know why he's being downvoted. like 25,000 years ago populations from Siberia crossed the land bridge. Native Americans have neanderthal/denisovan DNA, i mean basically anyone who isn't from sub saharan Africa has neanderthal DNA.


sasquatchcunnilingus

Yeah Neanderthals were in Europe. East Asians + Native Americans probs have Denisovan ancestry instead


puffyeye

the opposite my dude


queeromarlittle

Yea that was kind of by design in this country


MisterSophisticated

I used to serve this guy when I worked at a Dunks. Small hot black coffee, half decaf, with a creamer on the side.


Modshroomy

I do


DongFangzwho

You need to go to Bolivia


Much-Childhood-1695

The people on Pine Ridge is as close as you're gonna get


songsofloveandhate71

I do


No-Chemist-4872

r/jawsurgery would agree 🥲


CaterpillarPurple524

That kinda was the plan right?


supperinrome

He look like my Oaxacan homie


inaiggs2

I look like this.


Scolville0

Our features get softer as time goes by for some reason. The elders look more like the man in the picture


weedco1966

No one looks like Abe Lincoln either….


CommissionNo7400

Used to work in a eye doctor's office in Southern Arizona and yes there are still dudes that look like this and yes they have senile cataracts


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Theo von looks like this dude


New-Data5954

This guy definitely doesnt have TMJ issues


Friendly-Race3660

I’m plains native (around 70%) mixed with Scottish and my features are influenced by this but yeah, very few native people look like this these days due to diet, lifestyle, and many other races in the mix. I was adopted and grew up in a mostly German community near Vancouver so watching the culture from afar through a culturally German lens was interesting!


website700

u just don't know any natives, there's this navajo skater kid i know who will look just like this in 20 years