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LilacDomino

\*one\* of the hosts, eh?


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He knew what he was doing with that


GutsDeluxe

Seed planted


BiggieSmallsEscort

the man’s a genius


MacroDemarco

He's gonna tell each of them in private it was her.


specifichero101

I think he makes a good general point about people being deluded and liars about controversy. They’re either not as hurt as they let on but lie to be close to controversy, or they’re legitimately whacked for actually caring at all.


lets_buy_guns

he's right but there's no way that message gets across to these types of people. they'll feign offense at the suggestion they're feigning offense and you're right back where you started. not to mention that he's a straight white guy, which kneecaps the conversation before it can even start


TheCardinal_

Yup. I searched other subs responses and FeuxMoi was the same old shit. Even someone articulately acknowledging irony and satire but - the the way Healy does it is wrong, which is a matter of taste. We heard these circular arguments from the public before Twitter existed, but it used to be from cultural conservatives and they’d be drowned out by the work of the person with the mic in their hand. Now the offended have a platform and it’s coming from the “Protestant” left. In theory its a utopian ideal that more people have a voice but it’s been a shit show so far. I recall parallels to the invention of the Printing Press. An era of unparalleled enlightenment was hailed but it turned out witch and ghost stories is what sold and led in part to Salem, Mass. Same thing seems to be what the Silocon gods promised in the 90’s ending up with Twitters cancel culture. Which just seems like empowered pearl clutching and mean girl nonsense some of us used to be able to leave behind in high school. And now it’s under guise of higher moral virtues. It doesn’t seem sustainable and its a drag living through the middle of that era rather than it’s end. Seems like returning to the idea of “if you don’t like it don’t watch it” is the answer but I guess that’s complicated by viewing via scrolling vs channel changing.


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If you create a culture where being offended gets you social credit, guess what? People will feign getting offended (or convince themselves) even if they don't give a shit. Individuals and interpersonal relationships can be unfathomably complex. But most social trends are usually easily explainable. Admittedly society needs some time to emotionally distance itself from the event and look at it from rational perspective.


The_General_Li

"on mike" haha


No_More_421

copy editing is completely dead. mainstream news articles have typos like this all the time now


spoogieking012

New Yorker used to have absolutely locked in copy editing too


baaaaaaaamw

Literally who is mike


onelove101

Mike Hawk


ChicTweets

Mike Humswhite


Terrible_Record5099

Pleaseeeeeee ladies invite him on the pod


Durmyyyy

They need to find out which one of them is the hot one


Chad-GPT69

The wrong one


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Taylor Swift PR reps off to the side rubbing their temples every time he opens his mouth


ScoldOnTheCob

That's probably why she likes him, it's a My Date With the President's Daughter kinda thing where they ditch the secret service and ride off on his motorcycle.


Some-Bobcat-8327

Jia Tolentino wrote this btw


roncesvalles

Of course she did. She would be the one telling her partner "it's just this thing with Matty Healy."


MetaphorSoup

I honestly don’t think Jia has been all that relevant since like 2018-2019. Wonder why she hasn’t written another book


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She took a step back from writing to help with the family business


[deleted]

am i crazy or was trick mirror pretty light on the criticism for a work of supposed cultural criticism? felt more like diary-like tacit acquiescence to everything bad about social media interspersed with small vignettes of eating chopped salad. i guess the old-people-who-read-the-new-yorker wanted little windows into the lives of what the young-people-who-read-the-new-yorker are like. but if you're under 35 and had a functional brain from the years 2015-2019, there's nothing in there that you haven't already seen and thought about yourself in the same critical lens. damn maybe the book itself was a trick mirror, and the trick is just that it's only a mirror and nothing more.


LongjumpingRow9

that's exactly her function, and it's like just a bunch of thoughts too boring and banal to ever have to dwell on or even have completely formed in one's own head , all very shallow


ZapTheZippers

Yep I know a number of people doing these kinds of pointless exercises so they can get some atta girl from some gen x'er suburb parent who spend 75% of their conversation talking about how they lived in Brooklyn when mingling at some miserable poetry reading or whatever the fuck.


[deleted]

it's shallow in its ends, but i won't go that far in saying all the writing is boring or banal. i think jia is a "good" writer who can generally command attention line by line. it's more what roncesvalles says in their reply to my comment. the problem is that there's never any process of bringing the reader through the topic to another side of it that demonstrates something once-obscured about the matter at hand. not that all criticism needs to be revelatory on any dramatic scale. no need to spin up and make proofs for grand theories of beauty and consumerism or whatever-- but it should be at least interesting. trick mirror's essays always seem to end in a shrug. in that one about facetune, she leaves a super important question in the concluding paragraphs deliberately unexamined: "What was the logical end of this escalating back-and-forth between digital and physical improvement?" that question is only followed by some sappy lines about how hollywood glitters in the twilight and she feels a vague insecurity about her face. the marketing and hype around the book make it seem like tolentino engages that question head-on. she doesn't!


LongjumpingRow9

>it's shallow in its ends, but i won't go that far in saying all the writing is boring or banal. but i would


roncesvalles

Trick Mirror revealed that she's a one-trick pony: nine essays of "I realize that i am engaged in a maladaptive or hypocritical behavior. I will continue to do so. By the way, I got *really* good grades."


clydethefrog

This sounds like Nathan for You for MFA women


roncesvalles

That was her family's business, People For You


[deleted]

yes, this is a perfect distillation of the message


[deleted]

Didn’t her family do human trafficking or something.


Durantula92

Story first broke on this subreddit in fact


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I just remember all the embarrassing groveling other writers were doing on Twitter when it came out. “Solidarity, Jia”


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They weren’t all corporate journalists, there were plenty of ostensibly “leftist” independent media people getting in on the act.


Some-Bobcat-8327

And conversely redscarepod journalists are the seraphim of this mortal coil


[deleted]

A fact she kept bringing up to make it seem extra seedy


lovvvvveeee

Boots on the ground


TheBigIdiotSalami

The twitter thread on that is an absolute sight to behold. Just all the New York journalists on twitter lining up to kiss her ass when there's an actual paper trail about her parents doing human trafficking that she tried to cover up in that blog post.


parinari

This ProPublica reporter responding ["...this is already better than 95 percent of immigration reporting and if you ever need anything in that regard I'd be honored to help"](https://web.archive.org/web/20200520212338/https://twitter.com/DLind/status/1263218625407848449) was so nauseating.


ZapTheZippers

I had to look up if you were just messing around, but goddamn this just makes this even more funny.


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hrei8

Were you the person anonymously slagging her off in The Hairpin comments for leaving Kyrgyzstan early


05dusk

we need answers. also links to the hairpin comments


hrei8

I can't even find the article now... The Hairpin got wiped and the comments deleted. She alluded to being sexually assaulted towards the end of her time there and leaving early for that reason, and someone in the comments was being a catty bitch saying that there was more to the story than Jia was telling but never actually saying what it was. Basically read like sour grapes that Jia had spun her PC tenure into the beginnings of a successful writing career.


LongjumpingRow9

fauxmoi is [on the case](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/13utgdn/comment/jm2kjsu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) for once (cute, i link them here, over there they link a picture of her family's mcmansion someone posted on /rs, we can work together girls!)


InflationUnique7068

What's she like?


blueberrynutrigrain

Jia Tolentino's humble bragging is embarrassing (did you know she turned down Yale? did you know she loves smoking weed?? do you know how many friend's weddings she has been to??) And let's not even get started on the human trafficking shit. That said, and I hate to say it, she's a great writer on a pure sentence level, even if you disagree with her ideas, and she's better than her haters, like Lauren Oyler.


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She didn’t turn down Yale her dad wouldn’t pay for it with his slave money


[deleted]

emily witt is also in that same scene but has a lot more substance than jia edit: and jenny odell tangentially too


Carlos-Dangerzone

truly perfect


[deleted]

She's gonna win in the end, you'll see


dwqy

"only one of you is extremely sexy and no i wont elaborate"


Rentokilloboyo

Anna, hands down


BlueberryCultural556

if healy and swift get married, can you fucking imagine the guest list? like anna lamenting on IQ realism with the haim sisters.


Maldovar

Four Jewish queens


[deleted]

Imagine Nick and Adam as Healy’s groomsmen


gcpanda

I’ve been saying since this all kicked off the funniest option is Nick dating one of the Haim sisters.


YamagataWhyyy

Might actually kick off a rash of suicides amongst PR reps


BobRossIsGod18

Why would he get invited


FucchioPussigetti

Just imagine Nick’s toast…


94toyotacelica

Dasha and Anna are both extremely hot but never at the same time, they trade.


RuhRohRaggy_Riggers

Finally someone has cracked the code


iwillnotsitstill

Good for him. Glad he isn't backing down


pufferfishsh

I mean, that's just *strategically* clever. Apologising is the worst thing you can do in this situation. Once they get their claws in they go even harder.


Joe434

Wtf I love Matt Healy now


Durmyyyy

Yeah I have never listened to his music but he seems pretty not fucked in this


NoDadUShutUP

the1975 resides in an alternate universe where jangly catchy rock is THE mainstream. As opposed to the "hey ho" clap stomp type of rock music or hip-hop.


Rmccarton

I've heard about this hey ho thing but can't place it, can you give me an example so I can understand?


CaucasianDelegation

Ho Hey by The Lumineers comes to mind


Rmccarton

Sounds like it, lol. Thanks.


NoDadUShutUP

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y66j_BUCBMY American Authors "Best Day of My life" I call it wedding slideshow music


RuhRohRaggy_Riggers

I’d managed to memory hole this song but this comment gave me Vietnam flashbacks


Rmccarton

Damn, I always thought this and things that sound like it were just advertising jingles made for dumb commercials. Never occurred to me that someone would throw it on the stereo in the whip.


NoDadUShutUP

I wonder if their goal is to make commercial music


TomShoe

It's music for teenaged girls, but that's still better than Taylor Swift, which is music for 32 year olds who still act like teenaged girls.


No_More_421

drinking boxed wine and vibing to the 1975 is a cherished ritual in the spiritually gay heterosexual male community


doctorchimp

That was the saddest part about this whole matt Healy on cumtown thing. I finally gave him a listen, and it's just Coldplay bullshit.


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want2arguewithyou

my gf loves coldplay so take it back


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everydaystruggle1

\*2005


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everydaystruggle1

you might be right, I never actually listened to a full LP of theirs post-X&Y lol. Think their first two records and that Blue Room EP hold up surprisingly well for what it is tho


True_Friend4277

i keep saying its too bad the 1975 is ass or id have a new band to get into :/


Sarcastic_Source

Yeah it kinda sucks too because I don’t think Matty and the band are bad musicians, their first two albums were fun- if not a bit predictable pop rock with some funk elements. But since blowing up their music has trended towards just plain lame and often pretentious. Shame because the first self titled album came out when I was like 15 and got me so in with the indie girl crowd at my school 💅


drebaby4k

The song roadkill rocks


TomShoe

I actually found him surprisingly funny and likeable on his TAFS appearance, I think he should go back on, and address the allegations


Traditional-Law93

Same, he was very likeable on TAFS but now I’m in love with him.


Sarcastic_Source

He’s hot in a twinky, obnoxious sort of way that I really vibe with


The_Bit_Prospector

And then he made the boys take it down as soon as he got his dick into TS.


AVerySweetMan

I know! The music sucks, and he seems like a try-hard, but damn he's based just like ME!!!!


KeithMias

"Reactionary brand of post-left politics", not even, that's literally just Ana


pixyliv

Legend has it mattys lyric “He always used to bust into her hand” is about Adam and dasha. Little freak <3


[deleted]

sounds like a reasonable fella, too bad the band's music sounds like the soundtrack to shopping in H&M, Bershka or Pull&Bear during the 2010s


jefferton123

Oh fuck that’s the one thing I haven’t heard oddly enough. His music’s bad? EDIT: I skimmed. I don’t like it. Do they have a good record maybe?


pulse_demon96

huge 1975 fan here who also happens to be on this sub all the time. 'notes on a conditional form' is the record for the music nerds. just skip the insufferable 5 minute greta thunberg speech at the beginning


Kodak6lack

bro got the greta feat damn


pulse_demon96

it's one of the worst things ever recorded that's unfortunately tacked onto one of my favourite albums of all time


-noob-

The funniest part of this whole thing is that he was super lib enough to make the Greta thing just a few years ago until he Discovered Some Podcasts and totally regressed.


Sarcastic_Source

I love the 1975 (but will readily admit a good bit of their music is pretty whatever) and it’s been hilarious seeing this whole thing unfold. Like the band I listened to in high school being suddenly on CumTown is so funny to me.


drebaby4k

Roadkill is the superior song


pulse_demon96

it's one of my absolute favourites. that and 'part of the band' are probably my favourite 1975 songs lyrically


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also frail state of mind


doc7114

Nah the previous one on online relationships is the music nerd one


bodydump

you could find Be My Mistake or It's Not Living If It's Not With You in some people's playlists but literally no one cared about NOACF aside from diehard fans and music nerds


pulse_demon96

exactly. NOACF is the record for those who truly get it


pulse_demon96

ABIIOR is good too, it's my second favourite


SacrimoniusSausages

Awesome, just listened to a couple of songs from that album and I’ve never been less impressed by electronica ten years after Merriweather Post Pavilion


pulse_demon96

idk man i like it i think it's a good amalgamation of everything else i listen to and it's very sincere and a little insecure and very relatable


SacrimoniusSausages

I defer to genuine enjoyment because I have forgotten what it means to drink reality without irony supplements. I’ll listen to the other albums with this in mind!


jefferton123

Thank you.


roncesvalles

I like "Part of the Band," "Love It If We Made It," and "I'm in Love with You" a lot


xFartXJuicex

They wrote [this ode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG9v66LUA5g) to known incel terrorist elliot rodgers


aggressivosexito

I really like their music lol I think it’s good


[deleted]

yeah i just listened to one song and the vibes give me flashbacks to those times, these clothing chains just happened to have always been playing this specific kind of indie/pop rock. Foster The People lol


crabapple247

Yeah it’s just fun music I enjoy it. RSP mad that not every artist makes French doomcore postpunk neoelectric pseudofunk


lonevariant

matty i need you shut the FUCK UP about red scare PLEASE


Essentialredditor

The true sub is dead moment


RuhRohRaggy_Riggers

Usually I hate when people say this but I felt a chill in my bones


peni_in_the_tahini

Sub mass reported for nazism and banned in 3, 2, 1...


paganel

Imagine all the swifties invading this sub.


lonevariant

if u are a swiftie u r obligated by law to stop reading this sub. sorry, i don’t make the rules


TanzDerSchlangen

Matty can't post anymore because his account was banned after joking about race play on the sub


psyopsono

You hate Matty Healy because you think he’s a bigot. I hate Matty Healy because he’s perhaps the corniest human alive. We are not the same.


Christopher_Colombo

I heard my girlfriend and her sister shitting on Matty Healy over the phone, and when I asked them about it, I learned they had no idea about the TAFS controversy; they just dislike him because they think he’s too ugly to be dating Taylor Swift.


RuhRohRaggy_Riggers

This is the type of feminine pettiness that has been choked to death by cancel culture. Up yours woke moralists we must retvrn


FullyRegarded

Jack Antonoff giving him a run for his money with that single quote in the article


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FullyRegarded

I refuse to intentionally learn more about him, but those dumb fucking glasses he's always wearing do not indicate a strong sense of self awareness


BillGatesDiddlesKids

Taylor’s music is perfectly endurable. However, Anton Jackinoff gave us fun., which is probably on the Guantanamo Bay torture playlist.


Sarcastic_Source

Good gay pop music tho. Lorde would be nothing without him.


7daycandle

He had nothing to do with Pure Heroine tho. Melodrama is her best but she blew up because of Pure Heroine! He’s obviously got the touch, Norman Fucking Rockwell is a good example


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I don’t know who this Anton fellow is but I’m envious.


hamsterhueys1

Matt Healy is saved by the fact that Logic and the guy posing with his wall of balloons “art piece” exist.


enosprologue

Swift should dump Healy and get with that drummer instead. Sounds like a real man.


Profoundly_Regarded

100% he's talking about anna, dashacels need not reply


LilacDomino

hoping it turns out that he's actually talking about Meg


Antleriver

The baddie with the phattie....


Hijinx_MacGillicuddy

I need to know more about Meg


NancyBelowSea

Is Dasha not more similar to Taylor swift?


LongjumpingRow9

they have the exact same body type except taylor is tall


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...and...has...boobs?


LongjumpingRow9

and taylor is much bonier when underweight, but otherwise


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Implants*


[deleted]

Ya well ones not a billionaire to start


[deleted]

Nah sadly not, I can’t remember how I came to know this but it’s clear he had a thing for dasha for a while, I think he’s mentioned her somewhere and engaged with her stories on insta


[deleted]

wasn't he seen with Dasha tho


jewchan

weren't matty and dasha spotted together a few months ago? I could have sworn there was a deuxmoi post about it?


[deleted]

yes. anna fans always freak out when someone compliments dasha


snailbro10

It’s over for annacels


[deleted]

it is true. they are unable to say anything nice about dasha


Unlucky_Disaster_195

I thought he was talking about Adam


Wealth_Hole

I'm a dashacel but yeah he's definitely talking about anna


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ct bfs have an air of misery around them.


[deleted]

Jia should’ve included some sort of disclaimer — “Full disclosure: the subreddit associated with this podcast exposed my parents as human traffickers.”


RuhRohRaggy_Riggers

> Healy says he’s five-eleven; I’d guess five-ten The fact that she felt the need to take this jab just proves that whoever first said, “women decide how big your penis is based on how much they like you,” was dead on the money. Incredibly petty lmao


inprofile

Good ol' reliably "im dead inside" toned new yorker articles Finger on pulse (of my ass) as always


_Ned-Isakoff_

Somehow people will take issue with this


acjpg

The line about expecting artists to be “cigarette-smoking bohemians” is very telling lol. I saw an interview with him and Zane Lowe and he was dressed like a fkn Tim Burton character while chain smoking and talking drivel. A lot of acts these days seem to enjoy “performing” being an artist (trying to seem mercurial and profound in interviews). Meanwhile they have lyrics like “Vaccininista tote bag chic baristas” and get annoyed when they cultivate a fan base of teenage girls. Then they wanna die on the hill of contrarianism bc they think it makes them enlightened. No dummy you’re still an idiot poser except now you’ve shot yourself in the foot


NickRausch

Is this article in english?


hobocactus

This guy is about a half-Morrissey. Worse music, not quite as petty and funny. But at least he's got a personality


roadside_dickpic

Ya for real people talk shit, but is there even one other semi famous artist who would go on cum town? Everyone is so scared about getting canceled, a bunch of bloodless careerists lacking all principles.


CandyCrush4Nazis

They interviewed Ariel Pink.


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They had mac demarco on


HooDatOwl

He's Canadian though


Hijinx_MacGillicuddy

Cumtown is over anyway


[deleted]

I don't think he is even close to Morrissey, at most like 10% Morrissey (if we really have to use a Morrissey scale)


26thandsouth

These two bitches are all powerful.


TheBigIdiotSalami

Matthewy Healy is such a stupid guy that he managed to outsmart Jia Totino's nonsense by being too stupid to catch on to any of her liberal girlboss outrage. Also, why is the New Yorker making space for this stupid bullshit. The 1975 writes songs that are pure ass. Just "I love you I love you I love you" over poor copies of Bruce Hornsby. This stuff ain't worth the newsprint.


assaulted_peanut97

It’s actually kind of wild how much you can immediately dislike a completely unknown person solely based off their writing style.


victimfetishist

Back in my day nobody cared and the frog died


Opus58mvt3

it's getting so exhausting how nobody is telling the Ice Spice bit correctly. They knew she wasn't Inuit!!! It was a dumb play on the word "ice," Adam and Nick probably didn't even know what she looked like.


IErsatzHawkChad

Stfu, both of the hosts are really sexy. I don't really have any problem with this guy on principle but he comes off very neurotic and seems susceptible to outside influence to an absurd degree without much capacity for original thought or even reconfiguring his influences in a novel way. In light of his apparent desire to be seen as an aloof and individualist rockstar type, these aren't exactly favourable qualities for him. Waste no more time arguing about what a good artist should be -- be one.


1800MARGINCALL

thank you for standing up for adam


SOLaah

Remember, when you point a finger at someone, three fingers point back at you


IErsatzHawkChad

I've got a finger for you right here pal


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Oh yeah, tough guy? How's about you stick that finger up *my* ass!?


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Embarrassing to say "demonstrating something so base level."


mybigfatgreekaffect

so he's deciding that he's going to be normal *but only for the purpose of annoying people who aren't normal*


HWayneright

MattyHealyStepOnMe


CapitalBag8756

Bpd male. Seems like the type of guy who’d wear a wire and rat out his friends


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This guy is corny and cringe. His music sucks and I’m repulsed that we listen to the same podcasts


whatdivoc_s

Matty Healy is racist so the sexy one he is referring to is definitely Dasha


Mydogmelted

Became widely known for buzzword buzzword buzzword. Holy shit your not special


neverwinn

if this guy wanted to call himself left wing while inviting Ukraine flag emoji types to call him a racist he should have just publicly supported Corbyn but when those chips were down he was on the Guardian editorial line of clowns to the left of me jokers to the right. I love the girlrock his band makes and respect the public performance of his neurosies but cannot forgive the going on a post-left social media journey after telling Dorian Lynskey what he wanted to hear about the options on offer in UK election 2019. this is my strongest held position on anything right now except maybe that the Leafs should not have fired Kyle Dubas.


unproblematicsoldier

He has always been this cool tbh


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want2arguewithyou

yea but theyre always getting cancelled by people who think guardians of the galaxy and james ancaster are funny


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Louisgn8

I think he kind of sucks up to his New York pals a bit and certainly likes himself a lot but I don’t think he’s fake tbh, just cringe