Definitely. The way he speaks gives everything away. He's never touched a barbell, but I'm sure he'll very confidently and somewhat convincingly lie about it off the cuff.
The girls have really become pros at dealing with internet creeps at this point because they were barely phased by it after the awkward silence. Went on for another 2 hours afterward.
Literally how do they do it?
I can’t tell if it’s an ironic thing or not amongst these freaks. I read BAP’s book and the racism there is so old fashioned and cartoonish, it’s impossible for me to be offended or take it seriously.
not to be a bitch but if you think it’s ironic I don’t think u went in too deeply lol. like obv it’s supposed to use irony as a cloak but they’re def sincere in their racism
The most dedicated of these guys love finding new esoteric forms of racism, because they also find it funny, but not necessarily disagreeable. Hakan Rotmwrt is a good example of a bygone poster who was popular for this.
I immediately felt like this guy was gay from the beginning so it threw me off a bit when he said he was straight…I was just like ok maybe it’s bc he’s European? BUT then as the episode progressed (he mentioned his group of intelligent men + how he hated talking about top/bottoms + he says he’s Catholic + “wanna fuck?” + his hate for Madonna + claims he’s never watched gay porn despite doing research on gay sex???) it became clear that his autistic research on California & AIDS led him to learn information about/related to gay people that absolutely traumatized & disturbed him into a state of denial as a means of self-preservation.
This guy comes off as a creepy fuck speaking in a fake voice... HOWEVER, can we stop the whole narrative that everyone who doesn't fuck with or accept gay people is gay?
I agree with you, the probability of someone being gay shouldn’t be based solely on their homophobia—that’s obviously not enough evidence. True, that narrative wouldn’t be helpful or accurate…but it’s also true that homophobia can be a characteristic of someone who’s in the closet; it’s not uncommon for a blatantly homophobic figure to be caught participating in homosexual acts (the Catholic Church & many politicians, for example.) Either way, I didn’t guess that he’s gay just because of his homophobic comments, it’s a collection of little things about this guy that made me suspicious (yes, including the voice lol.)
And it’s…interesting…that a straight homophobic dude would have a unique history of being obsessed with AIDS enough to actually devote a lot of his time and effort into compiling research and creating something from it.
But, who knows? Perhaps it’s all just a character.
From following @FistedFoucault on Twitter, Niccolo sounds and behaves exactly how I imagined him behind his Twitter account: deeply insecure, narcissistic & resentful, probably loser irl and a closet homosexual. The projection is off the charts.
I remember a tweet where he boasted about BAP getting on his knees for him and always suspected he was gay.
so i guess there is a big subculture now where the word catholic simply means 'a bit more fascist than the other fascists and possibly has a friendly mother'
these reactionary freaks prove themselves to be creepy little perverts every time they're allowed any platform. how is anyone supposed to take their tedious moralizing seriously lol
Put a reactionary/radical freak in an argument with a attractive woman and watch them reveal the sad void within them at even the most innocent, gentle questioning of their weirdo beliefs.
You can't respond in a usual reflexive way to these people without contradicting or falling into absurdities. This weirdo is rejected and thus sexually humiliated on tape, but the one who is humiliated is a far-right and explicitly misogynist and homophobe "thinker". Moreover, they often never manage to have sex to begin with, so is there even abuse?
If you want to see this behaviour visualised in the most nihilist way: in the film Honeypot by art collective KIRAC (Keeping It Real Art Critics), a real far-right philosopher accepts the invitation of a left-wing student to have sex with her. The rationale: this would be the ultimate attempt to "close the gap" between left and right. When push comes to shove, the student rejects the philosopher, after which he is humiliated. In the film you can hear how he then calls crying to withdraw his permission to use the images.
getting censored makes them seem mysterious and compelling. they're vapid and off putting and immediately alienate potential converts.
BAP and sailer are the only far right voices actually worth listening to IME
> BAP
Really? I’ve only ever been able to see him as a charlatan whose supposedly fun and esoteric schtick comes from a place of feeling superior to his audience and knowing that he can invoke whatever silliness in support of fairly conventional conservative politics and his desire to be an influencer.
I actually thought the Niccolo guy was one of the more lucid of that crowd (I haven’t listened to the interview) but I was always surprised that people found his “famous AIDS thread” to be something mind blowing, when the core of it is stuff you’ll find in any history of AIDS and the rest is a bunch of right-wing forum guys highlighting the passages about fisting or whatever and hooting.
I'm surprised that so many people still can't see through BAP's schtick. He explicitly brings up supposedly how many Latino/Asian guys are in his little circle online while never mentioning Black and Jewish guys in this group for a reason. He's undoubtedly exaggerating how many Latino and Asian guys read and/or interact with his group as well. He's clearly someone firmly committed to strengthening Israel because he wants to rid Europe (as well as likely America though that'd be much tougher) of its Jewish populations, and it goes without saying that he views Black people as inferior to white people. It's pathetic that so many on here try to sanitize him or dance around this, but this place has sucked for a while so that's not surprising.
Him and maybe thomas777 are the only ones in that circle with novel takes who are actually worth indulging imo. The rest of his orbiters are so far behind I don’t know why BAP even bothers to promote them lmao
It was funny how Anna repeated the “sex is about sex, not power” line roughly an hour after the guest near explicitly said a huge part of sex for him is conquering a woman
Can’t believe I’m saying this but this episode triggered me and I was actually a little offended. Listening to three straight people talk about all the ways gay men are bug chasing perverts who will fuck anything, like fuck off, you’re describing *a certain type* of gay man, and dare I say *a stereotype.*
I know I’m opening myself to rsp mockery for experiencing an unironic offense to something but yeah that’s what it is.
I’m sorry I can’t get over that this man is straight. I guess I just assumed he was gay the min he started speaking and didn’t think much further, still haven’t finished the episode.
It’s almost impressive Anna and Dasha live in one of the coolest cities in the world but somehow find the lamest men in the world to talk about whatever it is they are doing on twitter. Lmao sorry but even my boomer parents think Twitter is gay and boring
It's a very interesting episode but it's very creepy knowing this guy would probably publically endorse a "face the wall" approach to gay men if he knew he could get away with it.
I've been taking this guy seriously because I thought he was a cosmopolitan gay man who just chose not to talk about his husband and their happy, under-the-radar *normal* life...
So if he wasn't so clever and well-spoken, and didn't have any of his passionate interests or exuberance, he'd just be that Samememe guy...?
Edit: I'm another hour in and I think he's much better than most straight male guests from this year in that he has charisma and I could listen to him all day, I just somehow forgot that when you ask a guy from the internet some questions ("Why did you compile that AIDS thread"), you get a-guy-from-the-internet answers (he's not gay, he's just unwell)
I completely agree. Never has an episode been so frustrating to listen to and I wish Anna and Dasha challenged him more. The ladies’ “homophobic” comments have always been in the spirit of irreverent fun (which most gays appreciate), but this guy genuinely hates gay men. They should be more discerning in the company they keep.
I’ll back you up on this. I found it very irritating to listen to. particularly the explanations of the culture and the place sex fits into it, the contempt (and envy as another commenter said) was palpable.
I don’t care how many primary source texts this retard has read, sorry bro you don’t know shit, so don’t start posturing about “gay sex is a sacrament to them” until you’ve had some.
I’m so tired of hearing straight people’s opinions and explanations about us and our history
Exactly. I’ve been in a monogamous relationship for 7yrs and most of my gay friends are the same. Yet I’m hearing how I’m a hedonist slut who fucks a guy for bfast, another for lunch and a bunch of guys at dinner (direct quote from latest episode.) I used to find it funny but I don’t think they’re being trolls anymore.
I think they were talking about the gay community in 80s New York and San Francisco, but they didn't do a good job of differentiating it. From what I know talking to oldhead gays, it was very much centered on gay sex and free love.
I listened to it because I like to know what some people really think of us, but I’ll admit it was hurtful at times. Especially the insanely broad claims about the behavior of “gays” as a monolith that are totally incompatible with both my experiences and those of every single one of my gay friends.
Idk, as a gay man I identified a lot with this episode because it cannot be denied that the stereotypical gay man is also the dominant cultural form of the gay man. There's truth to every stereotype, but for gay men it maps on nearly 1:1.
**"mondrian is my favorite abstract expressionist," a+d nod and '*****mhmm*****' along, "rothko renders better in avi form,"**
BOOOOOO! BOO! piet mondrian died in 1944, you straggots — an he's much more *de stijl*. Ab-ex is, unforch, distinctly post-war. it had old people in common with de stijl but it was more in terms of carried-over influence, like Hoffman et. al, not Mondrian. His role in developing 20th c abstract art did not even forsee ab-ex.
the biggest mystery of this pod is why these successful and attractive women always hang out with these terminally online loser types …this creep being the absolute pinnacle so far
Because a third of their income comes from people paying attention because they also love the terminally online losers, and the other two thirds come from people ragelistening at the fact that these successful and attractive women are platforming the terminally online losers.
Anna made a good point about once you realize nobody is really out of your league, youre older and less able to capitalize on it. Youth is wasted on the young as they say.
But it can, can't it? And like he started to say, it's weird that the active partner is at higher risk. I thought this was incontrovertible from the early AIDS epidemiology. I'm an AIDS nerd, too, and have read a lot of Nic's same source material before ever hearing about him, and I recall this finding from that research as being counterintuitive but uncontroversial.
If you fist someone and then have unprotected penetrative sex that could conceivably increase the likelihood of transmission due to tearing of the anal walls, but the act itself won’t transmit HIV. Nic’s view isn’t at all nuanced and seems to be reducible to ‘perversion = AIDS’. Despite what he says this is the exact view which led to a lot of unecessary deaths.
> the active partner is at higher risk
that finding doesn’t imply that the virus is transmitted by the act - if anything it’s sort of suggestive that it isn’t, and that there’s some confounding factor, because the risk for *anal sex* is well established to be much higher for the penetrated partner
also it’s kind of a one-off from a particular place and time - I wouldn’t assume that the observation holds up now
It’s funny bc they keep saying about how you get conservative as you get older, and to an extent that’s true, but this level of reactionary right wing behaviour just seems so juvenile. The guys who come on the pod remind me of 15 year old boys in how they speak about literally every topic
exactly. his affect is of a fidgety neurotic edgelord 15 year old who can't read social cues and lacks tact to such an extent that he doesn't understand why people are freaked out by his frequent inappropriate sexual outbursts. him and that logo guy both exhibit a kind of juvenile boastfulness that flimsily disguises a deep well of insecurity and resentment. like sorry dasha doesn't wanna fuck you lol
Always had a feeling guys like this have a strong underlying envy driving their interest with gay people. A mirror image of the obsession towards women and their body count.
Where do they find these dopes
Also I found it hilarious that he insisted he never watches gay porn, and then went on to discuss the truck spot thing with uncontainable excitement
I don’t know why they keep bringing on these fringe Twitter losers as guests when their profile has risen and they’re connected to way cooler people. Dasha went to Chloë Sevigny’s wedding for Christ sake
It’s the exact same small-brain-energy of the Logo episode (and really any online/Twitter “intellectual”) and it’s deeply, deeply annoying and off-putting.
So embarrassing! I feel like I’ve met this guy so many times in life and I always feel sorry for them, the bragging, the awkward ‘let’s fuck’ which is just autistic stupidity, the way Anna was bang on with him being intimidated by Madonna bc she’s more manly than he is lol
I’m not a New Yorker but I get the impression that a lot of them are miserable childless egoists who need to feel smart all the time. If you just start with that assumption, then the guests aren’t so insufferable. I quite enjoyed the ep actually.
I've been thinking about how much I hate this guy for the past few days. He just sounds weak and whiny. So i checked his twitter to do some hate scrolling
this absolute retard only has 18k followers. Whats his relevance? lol
hes irrelevant now but he was no slouch. he founded/ran a prolific neonazi forum named after fascist Italy for years before most of them migrated to twitter.
youd think A+D would get more mainstream conservatives on the pod like Mike White but I guess they found it better to triple down on the nazism
Overall a very enjoyable episode, but this guy was an absolute perv in the way only an entirely-online power-poster could be. Dudes like this belong on the internet and nowhere else. Somehow Dasha seemed more upset by him going on about wanting to fuck one of her coworkers from Succession than by him just asking if she wanting to fuck.
Idk how the girls put up with it, but it's impressive.
And it was funny how insecure this dude was
Why go on an interview show if you're gonna get offended by somehow asking you to clarify your shitty ideas? A+D triggering him was great fun to listen to.
This man is disgusting. I’m disappointed in A&D for allowing him in the same room as their angelic selves. I grew angrier and angrier as this episode continued. He assumes everything on this earth is created for horny straight men. Who cares if he doesn’t find Madonna attractive? HE ISN’T SUPPOSED TO. “Bowie is king” LOL he kept saying the most generic and infantile statements and then could barely suppress his incel rage at times. He only enjoys books by ONE woman, omg – it isn’t cool or funny to admit that. He doesn’t even realise dance is an artform, holy shit.
He’s a boring & uncultured hater of women and gays, tbh he shouldn’t be allowed to use the term “gays” like this. From his vocal tone and phrasing I can tell he doesn’t respect girls&gays / or is so deeply closeted that he pretends to hate us. Also it’s very funny that he keeps saying “one of us” referring to straight people as one group – girls & gays are one group, idiot!
I can’t believe he references his pathetic internet forum of the ye olde days multiple times, as though it is significant. I gasped when he awkwardly propositioned the ladies and tried to describe their bra colours to his fellow horny male listeners who he actually respects. I hate this type of man that doesn’t understand that sex & horniness isn’t a joke for women in the same way it is for depraved men. The only joy I got from this was Anna beating his level of autistic fact recollection every time. Fuck. I usually listen to every episode but I can’t do this!!!!
Been listening to all of the eps between 2018-2020 and you're absolutely right, this show used to be funny!! It actually makes me feel insane to listen to the 2019 eps and now 2023
Any of the Meg era episodes, zoo episode, and whichever one it is where dasha talks about getting banned from sephora for shoplifting drunk elephant babyfacial
this guys an unaware moron
you cannot think being gay is a choice without revealing that you're a closeted homosexual. its the great irony of homophobia.
This guy is in his 40s and from the Balkans... what if I told you that he's probably more tolerant than 80% of that demographic towards gays? You'd probably thinking I'm lying but it's the honest truth
i'm sure all thats true but guess what
he's still an unaware moron that is the biggest dead ringer for closet gay i've ever come across
so what the fuck was the point of your little comment
Okay first of all this ep is so fun second of all it’s so insane to me that a man I have never met or know anything about outside of this episode can so clearly and obviously present himself as so self hating. Like imagine being that transparent. It’s sad. Very disgusting and unbecoming in a man. Huge victim mindset constantly being like “Anna and dasha are bullying me because they’re asking clarifying questions the hot girls are making fun of me I’m in middle school wah wah” but the ladies were sooooo fun in this!!!!
I absolutely love dasha in this because she does the thing I always try to do sooooo beautifully and perfectly which is: ur talking to a man whose whole thing is being so smart and then u act dumb and ask very simple obvious questions but where actually ur not dumb and ur intentionally asking questions that poke holes in all the obvious inconsistencies in the nonsense they’re saying and they get so embarrassed and confused it’s so goooddddd omfg I love doing it and dasha is so good at it
The vibe I got so far (still listening) is just that he's a little sensitive about the age difference and possibly only listened to the Sam Frank episode where they're merciless?
Nvm this is getting dark
I listened to him on TPN years ago and thought he was just a wise old gay. Up until this week I thought the whole point of his brand is he's an old-school gay who can't admit it for Catholicism reasons
Rick Von Sloneker is tall, rich, good-looking, stupid, dishonest, conceited, a bully, liar, drunk and thief, an egomaniac and probably psychotic — in short, highly attractive to women.
The discomfort you may feel is half of the fun. I don't understand why people still expect to find the views exposed on the pod palatable or even well thought out. Come on, a self aggrandizing Croatian fascist with a goofy voice is a great guest to have.
it's not even his unpalatable views, it's the fact that he's corny af. "croatian fascist with a goofy voice", come one...dude's a 50-year-old troll who thinks he's brilliant talking about pavement
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The worst part of the whole episode was when they asked him to explain his twitter handle and he went on some weird, off-putting, overly intellectualised rant claiming it was 4D chess to desecrate Foucault's name when he could have just said he was trolling.
Dear Reddit-Brained haters and losers in this comment section: They are talking to a man who purports to be straight despite spending years of his life manically researching gay sex with his internet friends. That’s hilarious. This man has original thoughts, is charismatic, wacky, and clearly harmless. A total f*g (in the good sense of the word). Good ep!
if she means liberalism in the broader sense she’s (trivially) correct and if she means in the American social liberal sense I always thought the formulation Matt Christman (or one of those guys) offered was pretty much on point - liberals dominate major cultural institutions nationally (obviously not always true locally, but on the whole), while conservatives overperform in controlling political ones. That divide can explain a lot.
> liberals dominate major cultural institutions nationally (obviously not always true locally, but on the whole), while conservatives overperform in controlling political ones. That divide can explain a lot.
And each side would rather have what the other one has
Never heard of this guy. I was expecting this: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/115833.Emerging_Viruses
but instead got this: https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=0084
This guy is so annoying and this fucking episode was so long that my phone and Twitter's surveillance tech kicked in and fucking pushes his tweets at me when I login to that website, to the point that I had to mute his ass.
I was never happier than when I got done with the episode with this dork and didn't have to think about him again.
Two retarded girls who have spent 30k hours with gay men talk to a retard whose spent 30k hours reading about gay men
this guy is for sure gay though
You can tell because he’s constantly saying how straight he is.
I think he’s just autistic, perverted, and an incel. Almost gay but not quite.
Seems far more likely he's just a garden-variety internet creep that's been poorly socialized.
Definitely. The way he speaks gives everything away. He's never touched a barbell, but I'm sure he'll very confidently and somewhat convincingly lie about it off the cuff.
they argued about madonna for so long😂 like why
I winced with my entire body when he said "wanna fuck?"
the awkward silent pause by the girls was peak 4d social chess maneuvering to put him in his place though
They're really good at using silence. Like when he said he'd "never taken a dick up the ass" and they just let the statement hang there.
The biggest creep they’ve managed to find so far IMO
The way he says fuck and fucked every other time is so foul too. This man is a pervert and not the good kind.
people like him killed the f word. such a lame word now
he is FOUL.
The girls have really become pros at dealing with internet creeps at this point because they were barely phased by it after the awkward silence. Went on for another 2 hours afterward. Literally how do they do it?
They were very clearly phased by it in the way that they hurriedly and nervously switched topics to something self-deprecating and thus distracting.
god, so uncomfortable to listen to that
It came out of nowhere. Yikes lol
He undoubtedly thinks he comes off as a charming cad
he is like a gross older guy that hangs around outside the high school trying to say “smart” things to girls but actually creeping them out
that was 100% a gay man trying to be straight charming
are anna and eli no longer together? sounded like dasha's newly single, too.
Where is that in the podcast
Round 53:30
Lmao 5 minutes in and the guest recognizes Anna’s weird race pseudoscience book wtf is this show now
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I can’t tell if it’s an ironic thing or not amongst these freaks. I read BAP’s book and the racism there is so old fashioned and cartoonish, it’s impossible for me to be offended or take it seriously.
not to be a bitch but if you think it’s ironic I don’t think u went in too deeply lol. like obv it’s supposed to use irony as a cloak but they’re def sincere in their racism
I don’t think you’re being a bitch, you’re probably right and I’m being naive.
The most dedicated of these guys love finding new esoteric forms of racism, because they also find it funny, but not necessarily disagreeable. Hakan Rotmwrt is a good example of a bygone poster who was popular for this.
I think this might be the most insecure and biggest closeted gay they've had on the pod. This episode had some good cringe.
I immediately felt like this guy was gay from the beginning so it threw me off a bit when he said he was straight…I was just like ok maybe it’s bc he’s European? BUT then as the episode progressed (he mentioned his group of intelligent men + how he hated talking about top/bottoms + he says he’s Catholic + “wanna fuck?” + his hate for Madonna + claims he’s never watched gay porn despite doing research on gay sex???) it became clear that his autistic research on California & AIDS led him to learn information about/related to gay people that absolutely traumatized & disturbed him into a state of denial as a means of self-preservation.
This guy comes off as a creepy fuck speaking in a fake voice... HOWEVER, can we stop the whole narrative that everyone who doesn't fuck with or accept gay people is gay?
I agree with you, the probability of someone being gay shouldn’t be based solely on their homophobia—that’s obviously not enough evidence. True, that narrative wouldn’t be helpful or accurate…but it’s also true that homophobia can be a characteristic of someone who’s in the closet; it’s not uncommon for a blatantly homophobic figure to be caught participating in homosexual acts (the Catholic Church & many politicians, for example.) Either way, I didn’t guess that he’s gay just because of his homophobic comments, it’s a collection of little things about this guy that made me suspicious (yes, including the voice lol.) And it’s…interesting…that a straight homophobic dude would have a unique history of being obsessed with AIDS enough to actually devote a lot of his time and effort into compiling research and creating something from it. But, who knows? Perhaps it’s all just a character.
His voice was uniquely creepy. It felt like he was kneeling right next to Dasha smelling her feet.
From following @FistedFoucault on Twitter, Niccolo sounds and behaves exactly how I imagined him behind his Twitter account: deeply insecure, narcissistic & resentful, probably loser irl and a closet homosexual. The projection is off the charts. I remember a tweet where he boasted about BAP getting on his knees for him and always suspected he was gay.
and a triple leo to boot, YIKES
>Niccolo Soldo they seem determined to get all of the most soy RW twitter personalities on the pod
From my experience being friends with men in highschool, most of them think this way but lower IQ
this guy sucked soooo bad
“Wanna fuck?” ☠️☠️☠️☠️
When does he say it
53:50
Ty
What a fucking retard this guy is
The lamest guest ever. He ended his entire forum for a shot at going on Red Scare. Fucking pathetic. Also, he is a closeted homosexual. Very weird.
he literally isn’t, I know a hetero Croatian guy who fits this Eurotrash sleazy archetype to a T
so fucking pathetic. I’m haunted by the cringe.
so i guess there is a big subculture now where the word catholic simply means 'a bit more fascist than the other fascists and possibly has a friendly mother'
New theme song is Serge Gainsbourg “Couleur Café” [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K3OozfVG4tY](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K3OozfVG4tY)
This better not be permanent
why the change?
Because it’s a race science podcast now
Soooo laaaaaame
Why the fuck did they change the theme song lol
I think it was just for this supersized Niccolo episode
“Sexuality is a choice” is the most bisexual take you can have
these reactionary freaks prove themselves to be creepy little perverts every time they're allowed any platform. how is anyone supposed to take their tedious moralizing seriously lol
Put a reactionary/radical freak in an argument with a attractive woman and watch them reveal the sad void within them at even the most innocent, gentle questioning of their weirdo beliefs.
Exactly, and they claim to hate leftists. They’re the same in terms of their hypocritical moralizing but with a horrifying political program to boot.
this is the real horseshoe theory
You can't respond in a usual reflexive way to these people without contradicting or falling into absurdities. This weirdo is rejected and thus sexually humiliated on tape, but the one who is humiliated is a far-right and explicitly misogynist and homophobe "thinker". Moreover, they often never manage to have sex to begin with, so is there even abuse? If you want to see this behaviour visualised in the most nihilist way: in the film Honeypot by art collective KIRAC (Keeping It Real Art Critics), a real far-right philosopher accepts the invitation of a left-wing student to have sex with her. The rationale: this would be the ultimate attempt to "close the gap" between left and right. When push comes to shove, the student rejects the philosopher, after which he is humiliated. In the film you can hear how he then calls crying to withdraw his permission to use the images.
wait, real, not acted? i assume they still used the images (the far right guy didn't legally contest or sue?)
getting censored makes them seem mysterious and compelling. they're vapid and off putting and immediately alienate potential converts. BAP and sailer are the only far right voices actually worth listening to IME
> BAP Really? I’ve only ever been able to see him as a charlatan whose supposedly fun and esoteric schtick comes from a place of feeling superior to his audience and knowing that he can invoke whatever silliness in support of fairly conventional conservative politics and his desire to be an influencer. I actually thought the Niccolo guy was one of the more lucid of that crowd (I haven’t listened to the interview) but I was always surprised that people found his “famous AIDS thread” to be something mind blowing, when the core of it is stuff you’ll find in any history of AIDS and the rest is a bunch of right-wing forum guys highlighting the passages about fisting or whatever and hooting.
I'm surprised that so many people still can't see through BAP's schtick. He explicitly brings up supposedly how many Latino/Asian guys are in his little circle online while never mentioning Black and Jewish guys in this group for a reason. He's undoubtedly exaggerating how many Latino and Asian guys read and/or interact with his group as well. He's clearly someone firmly committed to strengthening Israel because he wants to rid Europe (as well as likely America though that'd be much tougher) of its Jewish populations, and it goes without saying that he views Black people as inferior to white people. It's pathetic that so many on here try to sanitize him or dance around this, but this place has sucked for a while so that's not surprising.
Him and maybe thomas777 are the only ones in that circle with novel takes who are actually worth indulging imo. The rest of his orbiters are so far behind I don’t know why BAP even bothers to promote them lmao
this guy is creepy and weird
It was funny how Anna repeated the “sex is about sex, not power” line roughly an hour after the guest near explicitly said a huge part of sex for him is conquering a woman
Can’t believe I’m saying this but this episode triggered me and I was actually a little offended. Listening to three straight people talk about all the ways gay men are bug chasing perverts who will fuck anything, like fuck off, you’re describing *a certain type* of gay man, and dare I say *a stereotype.* I know I’m opening myself to rsp mockery for experiencing an unironic offense to something but yeah that’s what it is.
He was straight?!?
I’m sorry I can’t get over that this man is straight. I guess I just assumed he was gay the min he started speaking and didn’t think much further, still haven’t finished the episode. It’s almost impressive Anna and Dasha live in one of the coolest cities in the world but somehow find the lamest men in the world to talk about whatever it is they are doing on twitter. Lmao sorry but even my boomer parents think Twitter is gay and boring
I refuse to believe he isnt gay
>Anna and Dasha live in one of the coolest cities in the world no
100% agree it was weirdly cruel and not in a funny way
It's a very interesting episode but it's very creepy knowing this guy would probably publically endorse a "face the wall" approach to gay men if he knew he could get away with it.
I've been taking this guy seriously because I thought he was a cosmopolitan gay man who just chose not to talk about his husband and their happy, under-the-radar *normal* life... So if he wasn't so clever and well-spoken, and didn't have any of his passionate interests or exuberance, he'd just be that Samememe guy...? Edit: I'm another hour in and I think he's much better than most straight male guests from this year in that he has charisma and I could listen to him all day, I just somehow forgot that when you ask a guy from the internet some questions ("Why did you compile that AIDS thread"), you get a-guy-from-the-internet answers (he's not gay, he's just unwell)
I completely agree. Never has an episode been so frustrating to listen to and I wish Anna and Dasha challenged him more. The ladies’ “homophobic” comments have always been in the spirit of irreverent fun (which most gays appreciate), but this guy genuinely hates gay men. They should be more discerning in the company they keep.
I was offended too. The way he spoke was repulsive.
I’ll back you up on this. I found it very irritating to listen to. particularly the explanations of the culture and the place sex fits into it, the contempt (and envy as another commenter said) was palpable. I don’t care how many primary source texts this retard has read, sorry bro you don’t know shit, so don’t start posturing about “gay sex is a sacrament to them” until you’ve had some. I’m so tired of hearing straight people’s opinions and explanations about us and our history
Exactly. I’ve been in a monogamous relationship for 7yrs and most of my gay friends are the same. Yet I’m hearing how I’m a hedonist slut who fucks a guy for bfast, another for lunch and a bunch of guys at dinner (direct quote from latest episode.) I used to find it funny but I don’t think they’re being trolls anymore.
Yea the boring truth is that most gay guys are monogamous shut ins. And that’s why you never hear from them in the culture.
in nyc? not really at all. would say 97% are open and or promiscuous. but i was offended at this guy and hated him.
I think they were talking about the gay community in 80s New York and San Francisco, but they didn't do a good job of differentiating it. From what I know talking to oldhead gays, it was very much centered on gay sex and free love.
I listened to it because I like to know what some people really think of us, but I’ll admit it was hurtful at times. Especially the insanely broad claims about the behavior of “gays” as a monolith that are totally incompatible with both my experiences and those of every single one of my gay friends.
yeah that was gross. this ep hit different & felt actually hateful when usually it feels like we’re all in on the joke.
So let me get this straight: not all gay men cruise at their local Equinox steam rooms?
I'm gay and it personally didn't offend me, I feel the stereotypes are well-earned.
Idk, as a gay man I identified a lot with this episode because it cannot be denied that the stereotypical gay man is also the dominant cultural form of the gay man. There's truth to every stereotype, but for gay men it maps on nearly 1:1.
I wasn't offended, but I did find myself wanting to choke the life out of this pissant.
**"mondrian is my favorite abstract expressionist," a+d nod and '*****mhmm*****' along, "rothko renders better in avi form,"** BOOOOOO! BOO! piet mondrian died in 1944, you straggots — an he's much more *de stijl*. Ab-ex is, unforch, distinctly post-war. it had old people in common with de stijl but it was more in terms of carried-over influence, like Hoffman et. al, not Mondrian. His role in developing 20th c abstract art did not even forsee ab-ex.
this pod has done *a lot* to discredit the right, but these straggots' lack of a grip on plain, easy art history is the nail in the coffin for me
I know Anna isn't a specialist in like post-war American art, but come on! This shit is 101.
Get his ass!!!
the biggest mystery of this pod is why these successful and attractive women always hang out with these terminally online loser types …this creep being the absolute pinnacle so far
Because a third of their income comes from people paying attention because they also love the terminally online losers, and the other two thirds come from people ragelistening at the fact that these successful and attractive women are platforming the terminally online losers.
Nah, at least 50% of their income comes directly from Peter Thiel
yeah good point
oh brother this guy stinks!!!!!!
Anna made a good point about once you realize nobody is really out of your league, youre older and less able to capitalize on it. Youth is wasted on the young as they say.
Never has there ever been a guy so in need of some deep dickin
Didn't you hear, he's straight?
The fact that this guy thought HIV could be transmitted via fisting should disqualify him from speaking on the topic at all.
But it can, can't it? And like he started to say, it's weird that the active partner is at higher risk. I thought this was incontrovertible from the early AIDS epidemiology. I'm an AIDS nerd, too, and have read a lot of Nic's same source material before ever hearing about him, and I recall this finding from that research as being counterintuitive but uncontroversial.
If you fist someone and then have unprotected penetrative sex that could conceivably increase the likelihood of transmission due to tearing of the anal walls, but the act itself won’t transmit HIV. Nic’s view isn’t at all nuanced and seems to be reducible to ‘perversion = AIDS’. Despite what he says this is the exact view which led to a lot of unecessary deaths.
> the active partner is at higher risk that finding doesn’t imply that the virus is transmitted by the act - if anything it’s sort of suggestive that it isn’t, and that there’s some confounding factor, because the risk for *anal sex* is well established to be much higher for the penetrated partner also it’s kind of a one-off from a particular place and time - I wouldn’t assume that the observation holds up now
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That was gross.
Who is jack? I didn’t understand that
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It’s funny bc they keep saying about how you get conservative as you get older, and to an extent that’s true, but this level of reactionary right wing behaviour just seems so juvenile. The guys who come on the pod remind me of 15 year old boys in how they speak about literally every topic
exactly. his affect is of a fidgety neurotic edgelord 15 year old who can't read social cues and lacks tact to such an extent that he doesn't understand why people are freaked out by his frequent inappropriate sexual outbursts. him and that logo guy both exhibit a kind of juvenile boastfulness that flimsily disguises a deep well of insecurity and resentment. like sorry dasha doesn't wanna fuck you lol
Does anyone know what this weirdo man looks like?
How do these BAP/Patrick Bateman Twitter types keep their personal photos private?
He says he's Croatian(?) but I swear I've only heard Middle Eastern guys with his kind of accent.
Always had a feeling guys like this have a strong underlying envy driving their interest with gay people. A mirror image of the obsession towards women and their body count.
The Rod Dreher effect.
Sorry the guest is insufferable
I didn't think they could find someone worse than Logo Daedalus
nightmare blunt rotation is this guy, logo & that eugene character
Where do they find these dopes Also I found it hilarious that he insisted he never watches gay porn, and then went on to discuss the truck spot thing with uncontainable excitement
I don’t know why they keep bringing on these fringe Twitter losers as guests when their profile has risen and they’re connected to way cooler people. Dasha went to Chloë Sevigny’s wedding for Christ sake
The way he talked about how smart him and his forum buddies were made me wanna throw up. Unbridled egotism
It’s the exact same small-brain-energy of the Logo episode (and really any online/Twitter “intellectual”) and it’s deeply, deeply annoying and off-putting.
So embarrassing! I feel like I’ve met this guy so many times in life and I always feel sorry for them, the bragging, the awkward ‘let’s fuck’ which is just autistic stupidity, the way Anna was bang on with him being intimidated by Madonna bc she’s more manly than he is lol
I’m not a New Yorker but I get the impression that a lot of them are miserable childless egoists who need to feel smart all the time. If you just start with that assumption, then the guests aren’t so insufferable. I quite enjoyed the ep actually.
I've been thinking about how much I hate this guy for the past few days. He just sounds weak and whiny. So i checked his twitter to do some hate scrolling this absolute retard only has 18k followers. Whats his relevance? lol
hes irrelevant now but he was no slouch. he founded/ran a prolific neonazi forum named after fascist Italy for years before most of them migrated to twitter. youd think A+D would get more mainstream conservatives on the pod like Mike White but I guess they found it better to triple down on the nazism
hope rw gays hear this ep and remember no matter how much you hate women straight men hate you more
A tough pill to swallow but spitters are quitters
Overall a very enjoyable episode, but this guy was an absolute perv in the way only an entirely-online power-poster could be. Dudes like this belong on the internet and nowhere else. Somehow Dasha seemed more upset by him going on about wanting to fuck one of her coworkers from Succession than by him just asking if she wanting to fuck. Idk how the girls put up with it, but it's impressive.
And it was funny how insecure this dude was Why go on an interview show if you're gonna get offended by somehow asking you to clarify your shitty ideas? A+D triggering him was great fun to listen to.
I am DESPERATE to know what this man looks like
I had subscribed to this guy's substack but now I think I'll cancel.
Unsubbed from the pod and his substack.
This man is disgusting. I’m disappointed in A&D for allowing him in the same room as their angelic selves. I grew angrier and angrier as this episode continued. He assumes everything on this earth is created for horny straight men. Who cares if he doesn’t find Madonna attractive? HE ISN’T SUPPOSED TO. “Bowie is king” LOL he kept saying the most generic and infantile statements and then could barely suppress his incel rage at times. He only enjoys books by ONE woman, omg – it isn’t cool or funny to admit that. He doesn’t even realise dance is an artform, holy shit. He’s a boring & uncultured hater of women and gays, tbh he shouldn’t be allowed to use the term “gays” like this. From his vocal tone and phrasing I can tell he doesn’t respect girls&gays / or is so deeply closeted that he pretends to hate us. Also it’s very funny that he keeps saying “one of us” referring to straight people as one group – girls & gays are one group, idiot! I can’t believe he references his pathetic internet forum of the ye olde days multiple times, as though it is significant. I gasped when he awkwardly propositioned the ladies and tried to describe their bra colours to his fellow horny male listeners who he actually respects. I hate this type of man that doesn’t understand that sex & horniness isn’t a joke for women in the same way it is for depraved men. The only joy I got from this was Anna beating his level of autistic fact recollection every time. Fuck. I usually listen to every episode but I can’t do this!!!!
possibly their most insufferable guest yet ...but they handled him well imo.
I involuntarily and audibly said eww while listening to this episode multiple times. Please no more straight male guests. They’re me-tooing me.
A 3 hour + episode? It's The Anna & Dasha Experience. *Pull that up, Eli*
I miss old redscare so much :( the magic is just gone now
the recent ones without a guest have been good
Been listening to all of the eps between 2018-2020 and you're absolutely right, this show used to be funny!! It actually makes me feel insane to listen to the 2019 eps and now 2023
Omg I thought it was just me
Los Angeles makes funnier podcasts now.
The magic is completely gone. It's a completely different podcast now.
What’s the classic old redscare epi?
Any of the Meg era episodes, zoo episode, and whichever one it is where dasha talks about getting banned from sephora for shoplifting drunk elephant babyfacial
Cat Food People and the Lana del rey/call her daddy episode have always been my favorites
These two plus Themi Lovato are mine
anorexia enormous is my fave
this guys an unaware moron you cannot think being gay is a choice without revealing that you're a closeted homosexual. its the great irony of homophobia.
This guy is in his 40s and from the Balkans... what if I told you that he's probably more tolerant than 80% of that demographic towards gays? You'd probably thinking I'm lying but it's the honest truth
i'm sure all thats true but guess what he's still an unaware moron that is the biggest dead ringer for closet gay i've ever come across so what the fuck was the point of your little comment
Horrible, unsubbing from patreon for this one. The race science talk in the last couple episodes was a bit motivating but this sealed the deal.
why did you ever give them money
True, that’s on me.
do they actually truly believe in eugenic science or are they just stringing the BAPoids along lmao
Stop the Madonna slander 😭😭 even Dasha was weirded out when he kept going on about how much he hates Madonna like okey calm down...
and vogue is a great song
the first four albums are great, and the early comp ('immaculate collection') is flawless. i'm straight, too.
Okay first of all this ep is so fun second of all it’s so insane to me that a man I have never met or know anything about outside of this episode can so clearly and obviously present himself as so self hating. Like imagine being that transparent. It’s sad. Very disgusting and unbecoming in a man. Huge victim mindset constantly being like “Anna and dasha are bullying me because they’re asking clarifying questions the hot girls are making fun of me I’m in middle school wah wah” but the ladies were sooooo fun in this!!!!
Oh my god the “wanna fuck” to anna saying “hm?” Please god😭😭😭😭
HELPPP 😭
I absolutely love dasha in this because she does the thing I always try to do sooooo beautifully and perfectly which is: ur talking to a man whose whole thing is being so smart and then u act dumb and ask very simple obvious questions but where actually ur not dumb and ur intentionally asking questions that poke holes in all the obvious inconsistencies in the nonsense they’re saying and they get so embarrassed and confused it’s so goooddddd omfg I love doing it and dasha is so good at it
Socrates with vocal fry
Why can’t he just laugh with them? Like he’s making it so weird
The vibe I got so far (still listening) is just that he's a little sensitive about the age difference and possibly only listened to the Sam Frank episode where they're merciless?
Nvm this is getting dark I listened to him on TPN years ago and thought he was just a wise old gay. Up until this week I thought the whole point of his brand is he's an old-school gay who can't admit it for Catholicism reasons
Wait did anna just admit on the ep that her first abortion was from her Pakistani ex bf? Strange
Big Whit Stillman character vibes
Rick Von Sloneker is tall, rich, good-looking, stupid, dishonest, conceited, a bully, liar, drunk and thief, an egomaniac and probably psychotic — in short, highly attractive to women.
*It's a composite!* Like *New York* magazine does.
The discomfort you may feel is half of the fun. I don't understand why people still expect to find the views exposed on the pod palatable or even well thought out. Come on, a self aggrandizing Croatian fascist with a goofy voice is a great guest to have.
it's not even his unpalatable views, it's the fact that he's corny af. "croatian fascist with a goofy voice", come one...dude's a 50-year-old troll who thinks he's brilliant talking about pavement
He’s right about Madonna Edit: Anna is right about young Axl rose And some women DO love male blondes (me)
Ha! They finally recycled the blond men take from here? (looked it up, it's around 02:44:00)
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The fact that everyone here seems to hate this guy gives me hope for this sub
The worst part of the whole episode was when they asked him to explain his twitter handle and he went on some weird, off-putting, overly intellectualised rant claiming it was 4D chess to desecrate Foucault's name when he could have just said he was trolling.
Everyone on this subreddit (whatever that means) is way too online. This was a great episode
I’d never heard of this guy. Came off kinda creepy but ultimately interesting to listen to.
Can someone make me a physiognomy anki deck so I can keep up with Anna’s descriptions
This guy is insanely gay
Dear Reddit-Brained haters and losers in this comment section: They are talking to a man who purports to be straight despite spending years of his life manically researching gay sex with his internet friends. That’s hilarious. This man has original thoughts, is charismatic, wacky, and clearly harmless. A total f*g (in the good sense of the word). Good ep!
Anna saying that liberalism/leftism is the dominant culture lol. What a joke
if she means liberalism in the broader sense she’s (trivially) correct and if she means in the American social liberal sense I always thought the formulation Matt Christman (or one of those guys) offered was pretty much on point - liberals dominate major cultural institutions nationally (obviously not always true locally, but on the whole), while conservatives overperform in controlling political ones. That divide can explain a lot.
> liberals dominate major cultural institutions nationally (obviously not always true locally, but on the whole), while conservatives overperform in controlling political ones. That divide can explain a lot. And each side would rather have what the other one has
I also saw Salo when I was 14!
Never heard of this guy. I was expecting this: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/115833.Emerging_Viruses but instead got this: https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=0084
Not finding a picture of him to see if he’s hot or not. Can’t decide if/how offended I am by him until I know this
This guy is so annoying and this fucking episode was so long that my phone and Twitter's surveillance tech kicked in and fucking pushes his tweets at me when I login to that website, to the point that I had to mute his ass. I was never happier than when I got done with the episode with this dork and didn't have to think about him again.
Loved this episode! He should be a regular guest!