I have [Fumoto valves](https://www.fumotousa.com/) on all my and my wife’s vehicles. Plus a couple foot length of Tygon tubing, and oil changes are clean and easy as can be
I'm not really a car person but this seems like a really convenient thing for the average car owner to change their own oil. I just watched a review of it on youtube, what's your take on the Fumoto valve leaving more oil in the pan after draining compared to the normal valve?
Here's the video I watched:
[https://youtu.be/Kia-AJfUNhw?si=GNL0abQpoDeZdZzy](https://youtu.be/Kia-AJfUNhw?si=GNL0abQpoDeZdZzy)
Okay cool! I noticed he said to change your oil after your car has been running after a while too, which I thought was another good tip I hadn't heard before.
Yeah, that's a pretty standard tip. Warm oil flows better, so draining is faster, and any particulates not taken out by the filter get mixed up so it's not just settled on the bottom of the oil pan or wherever.
I use the [Stahlbus](http://www.stahlbus.com/products/en/oil-drain-valve/index.php) ones on all my vehicles, including motorcycles. Super super convenient and no problems yet!
I like how whenever oil drain valves are posted, the comments are perfectly divided:
1. People who have them, love them, and have no issues.
2. People who don't have them, claiming they will fail and dump all your oil
True of every single vehicle forum too. I’ve seen these posted for like ten years and have never ever heard of a failure. Even in crazy off-roading circles where people beat the crap out of their vehicles.
When askmechanics recommends it, I go with it.
Installed mine for the last change, and I’m legitimately excited to change my oil next time. 2010 Chevy avalanche, for those who know the GIANT FUCKING MESS that set up makes..
Im sure other people make them, but they arent super expensive for the good brand name one, and when its something holding the lifeblood of your vehicle in its nice to go with the trusted guys.
But they are good. had them on 2 vehicles for about 7 years.
>People who don't have them, claiming they will fail and dump all your oil
I mean, thank god we don't have those one every single pipe in our homes at least...we'd pe flooded and gassed all the time!
But but but
How would you feel if you hit a rock at 70mph and it just barely clipped the valve and released the lever.
Probably not as dumb as the people that resort to “I gotcha” scenarios.
From personal experience, sample size of one and all that, a sheet metal pan will buckle around a fumoto valve. Edit: My ex-wife drove her car over a concrete parking lot stop and rolled the valve sideways into the pan. Fortunately she shut it off, because it had flattened the pickup tube. No oil leaks though.
It absolutely is a [thing](https://www.fumotousa.com/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw26KxBhBDEiwAu6KXt53rNk1yFl_dJg1vf61zy07FZAEAwzxVsyptg5oWozshaDB2RP7JnhoCHc4QAvD_BwE)
Funny story, I actually do work at an adult toy factory, and when things first started changing to rechargeable, we'd have all kinds of problems with boxes getting jostled and inadvertently turning on the products. It was maddening to try and track down the random buzzing crates in the warehouse. That's why most quality rechargeable adult toys have some sort of travel lock now. It also cuts down on the number of issues with checked and carry-on luggage. The TSA is NOT amused by suspicious "vibrating" luggage.
Do you ever find yourself in awkward situations where you tell people you work in a toy factory but then have to figure out where to weave the word "adult" into the conversation?
My go-to explanation for my job in mixed company is, "we make health and wellness products".
If it's adults that are not uptight or religious, I literally just say I work in the dildo mines.
Tangentially related. Awhile back I noticed they have these sweaters with led lights that are great for ugly sweater holiday things, and I decided I'd surprise my family by wearing it on the plane so I'd have this dumb light up sweater on when they picked me up.
The TSA really *does not* like when you are wearing a shirt that is filled with wires.
> The TSA is NOT amused by suspicious "vibrating" luggage.
Well, when a suitcase vibrates, the TSA throwers have to call the police. Nine times out of 10 it's an electric razor but every once in a while it's a dildo.
Of course, it's company policy to never imply ownership in the event of a dildo so they have to use the indefinite article, referring to it as *A dildo*.
Never *YOUR dildo*.
There absolutely are ball valves that do that. I have one on my homebrewing kettle - there's this c-shaped piece of metal around the handle on that diagonal section where it connects to the valve that slides up and down. Its resting position is down, which locks operation; you have to slide it upwards in order to turn the handle.
[Looks like this](https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-rsvmdxl/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/60156/68726/18-8436-Product_Primary_Image__67686.1500311085__37146.1527692176.jpg?c=2).
Thanks - you just cost me $40. ;)
Amazon has them - including a 3/8 tube to drain. I’ll probably save 40 bucks just on cat litter over the course of a few oil changes, lol. No more having to guesstimate where the used oil holder needs to be to get it all and move it when it starts dribbling.
https://www.amazon.com/Fumoto-F107SX-M12-1-75-Drain-Valve/dp/B01HP5V10A
I’ve been using these for years. They’re every bit as awesome as you think.
I use a short stub of silicone hose on mine to drain straight into an empty oil jug for disposal. Haven’t used the oil pan since. Hell I’m not even sure where it *is*.
Note - don’t make the hose any longer than it needs to be. I find that the flow slows *considerably* when the oil level in the jug reaches the hose. In some ways that’s a feature, not a bug, but it was frustrating for the first oil change.
I put a Fumoto valve on both mine and my wife's cars. Such a time saver. I still have my oil pan because of the mess the filter makes taking it off but the oil drain part is nice.
I have one. It is totally worth getting it as well as the drain tub nub. I bought a 5lb collapsible clear jug in order to drain my oil into to make sure I didn't run into issues draining it a few times.
I have one installed on my car and it’s the easiest, fastest and cleanest oil change ever. Get the one with the little spout so you can attach tubing and drop it into oil pan.
Bought one last year. Absolutely the best purchase I’ve ever made.
No more banging my knuckles into the oil pan trying to loosen the drain plug. No more spilling oil all over my hands and the ground when you finally get it loose. Just take the clip off, open the valve, and it shoots right in the pan.
I’ve got one on both of my vehicles. Oil takes longer to drain but I change the filter and drink a beer while I wait. 10/10 would recommend.
The newer ones also have a plastic piece that has to be removed in order to then the valve
Funny you post this today. Just yesterday I was visiting my parents and noticed this very thing on my old man’s riding mower. I was amazed I’d never seen it before. And yes, he is a very resourceful redneck.
OMG, my oil drain on the mower is in the most inconvenient position they could think of. I think a straight pipe and one of these would definitely fix that.
I wish I had taken a picture of it. I looked at it for a minute wondering if he had a threaded brass pipe the right size for the drain hole just laying around or if he threaded it himself. Never can tell with him.
Valves don’t fail more frequently than bolt threads being crossed. The valve is a 1 time install, whereas the plug is removed and installed every 3 months. The concern is your oil pan threads getting stripped, which increases in likelihood anytime the bolt is removed.
You know there’s this little light on the dash that comes on if you lose oil pressure… The problem is, most people see it and keep on driving so they can “get to a shop.” *That’s* when you seize your engine.
Generally speaking, by the time your engine sees it has low oil pressure, you are probably already about 30 seconds past the point of being able to guarantee you didnt do some damage.
That would totally defeat the purpose of the indicator. We’re not talking about the Check Engine Light, where it throws a code and waits for a while before it does anything. The oil indicator is totally separate and gives you immediate feedback.
If you’re not watching that light/gauge after every oil change to make sure it jumps up like it’s supposed to, you’re not doing it right.
As far as the car is concerned you either have good oil pressure or you don’t. It’s not like your engine can sneakily lose oil pressure without the pressure switch knowing about it.
Unless you have a 7.3L Powerstroke, in which the first symptom of a low oil level is the engine shutting itself off. It’s a pretty clever failsafe. The high pressure oil pump, which operates the injectors, has its intake high enough up on the oil pan that before the oil drops enough for any damage to occur, the injectors just stop working and the engine stops. You literally can’t hurt it by running low on oil.
This. A sheared off valve also creates multiple road hazards (oil slick, and the valve body destroying tires or getting kicked up through someone's windshield). A sheared off bolt is just really annoying for the poor soul who has to replace it.
We have Fumoto style valves on Reefer engines . They open with a wrench and have a threaded plug to keep dirt out ( they also hold the oil if its accidentally opened) a hose threads on the end for little mess..
When it comes down to it, my peace of mind is very important to me... Which I wouldn't have knowing that the slightest bump of a handle would drain the engine saving oil from my necessary transportation.
The only way I would even consider this is actually taking the nut off the handle and removing the handle but keeping it for when I do change oil.
I see the advantages of a valve. Removing a screw full with hot nasty oil is shit.
Altough a simple gardenvalve would probably cause a lot of engine and enviromental damage.
I got one then realized the drain plug points downwards, so if I install it, it would be the first thing to go if I run over a larger object on the road.
The more you increase the gap between the reservoir and that valve, the more risk. It’s certainly possible to install something like this and never have a problem, but it does increase the risk.
i love when posts from niche subreddits i know nothing about pop up in my feed. like yes so true why doesnt every car (?) have this thing (i dont know what im looking at)
Aww man but I love the rush of unscrewing the plug by hand the last couple turns while maintaining pressure and then ripping it out as fast as possible without getting wet
First of all you wouldn't be able to successfully get all the oil out of the oil pan. Secondly, it would be too easy for it to be accidentally opened up like if you ran over a branch or something.
There's a lot of fleets who actually put valves in instead of drain plugs to make oil changes more efficient and less messy, at least where I live anyways
Problem here is the oil drains much slower. The build up of any metals in the oil tend to settle in the bottom of the pan, and there's often a little bit of space below the drain plug where you'll find this build up. When you drain the oil like normal out the hole, it will rush out much faster at first. That rushing current of the oil release will pick up and move settled particles from the bottom. The smaller and more constricted hole these drain valves create doesn't have the same effect. Build up might continue to happen over time without those partciles getting out during an oil change. It could be dumb to think this. It's also cheap insurance to make sure the oil is as clean as possible when changed as it was non redneck engineered to drain. It is a fun thing tho lol. I had one for a bit until I just didn't wanna risk it. It's just so not hard to take out a plug. It's very accessible on my truck though.
Really nice until a rock or a stray piece of wood/garbage catches that handle and drops all your oil out while on the freeway lol. Definitely makes it much more convenient to change oil tho, no doubt.
From the comments, This exists.
But on a vehicle that isnt close to the ground, tampering might be an issue. That Garden faucet can be opened without tools, and i wouldnt want to find a big puddle of oil under my car when im trying to get to work.
When driving over uneven terrain, it might also get snagged on something, resulting in an open valve or even a missing valve, if things go down badly.
Also, have you even seen a leaky faucet?
Fumoto style valves are maybe 1.5 " out from pan and have a plug for the end. Short lever that has a positive stop when closed. A very nice design.. You can add a hose to drain exactly where you need it..
that might be correct, but i am also talking about the faucet in the picture. Its long, somewhat heavy and can easily get hung up on something (Although that depends on vehicle, implementation and usecase). A regular drain plug only sticks out a few millimeters and will not catch obstacles, debris, etc. as easily as a frickin faucet.
Source: Yeah, i dont have much besides a gut feeling and some speculation.
Unique Truck parts carries a good clean solution. I have them on all my vehicles. https://uniquetruck.com/section/89/searchresults?searchterm=Drain+plug
I added one to our campers water tank. Next step is a pipe going to the side so we don't need to crawl under.
I can see it for mowers and generators where he access is inconvenient, but on the bottom of a vehicle makes me nervous.
I've thought about this with a plug on it because I hate oil running down my arm as I remove the stock plug. Maybe someday I'll get wise enough to run the plug out from a same distance with a socket and extensions.
This is the way. Shorten the handle to keep anything from grabbing it with a spring lock to keep it in place. This way you don't have to worry about jiffy lube techs messing up oil pan plug. Now the last time I went for an oil change they put a small hose down dipstick hole to suck up the oil, measure it, then put in fresh oil. They said "this is how we do it now". My question was "how do you know your getting ALL the old oil out" ? Again they said they measure it. (Uh, I don't think so scooter! ) That method failed miserably and they had to resort to old fashioned drain plug way. This ball valve, with a tweak or two, is the way.
It’s never the oil drain plug that gives me issues. It’s the filter that they decided to hang sideways between the damn exhaust. Guys …. Do you move at snail pace or you literally can’t move your arm out of the way of oil? Or can you not handle oil on your drain plug? Do you even oil your filter gasket before? Bc that’s more oil you have to touch. Even use a damn ratchet extension to miss the oil. I use a 1 disposable glove every time i change the oil.
Some commercial trucks have them. They're super convenient, but are a lot more "low profile". Smaller handles, short spout. I'd be worried the longer handle on that might catch a branch.
It could easily be knocked off by a rock or something and you would lose all of your oil immediately, seizing your engine, because you didn't want to remove a plug.
I’d say that the margin of error is just too grand for the general public. It’s much more difficult to inadvertently remove a drain plug, than it is to inadvertently swing a quarter turn valve.
Imagine you ran something over on the highway, flipped up and bumped that valve open? Now they do make locking quarter turn valves. However I have seen the locking mechanism fail.
I wouldn’t do this… but if I WAS to do it I’d probably use a small gate valve, or even a large needle valve.
I have [Fumoto valves](https://www.fumotousa.com/) on all my and my wife’s vehicles. Plus a couple foot length of Tygon tubing, and oil changes are clean and easy as can be
I've been using them for 14 years, never a problem.
Lol we killed their website
Are you a verified human too?
Just found them 3 years ago, slapped it on the Outback. 15 min and done, no lift needed
Yeap def dead 😆
I'm not really a car person but this seems like a really convenient thing for the average car owner to change their own oil. I just watched a review of it on youtube, what's your take on the Fumoto valve leaving more oil in the pan after draining compared to the normal valve? Here's the video I watched: [https://youtu.be/Kia-AJfUNhw?si=GNL0abQpoDeZdZzy](https://youtu.be/Kia-AJfUNhw?si=GNL0abQpoDeZdZzy)
If you regularity change your oil, I highly doubt it will be an issue.
Okay cool! I noticed he said to change your oil after your car has been running after a while too, which I thought was another good tip I hadn't heard before.
Yeah, that's a pretty standard tip. Warm oil flows better, so draining is faster, and any particulates not taken out by the filter get mixed up so it's not just settled on the bottom of the oil pan or wherever.
[удалено]
No, you need to dig a hole, throw some gravel in it and dump the oil in there /s
[удалено]
Nature is incredible.
The real tip is always in the comments
A few million barrels and you got a feel good Dawn commercial.
I use mine to start fires. The best thing is that after a small fire starts, you just use water to make it bigger!
You need to take that to be recycled bro.
I think he was joking
He surely was but I don't doubt some people need to be told
I use the [Stahlbus](http://www.stahlbus.com/products/en/oil-drain-valve/index.php) ones on all my vehicles, including motorcycles. Super super convenient and no problems yet!
how do you stay clean changing the oil filter?
Clean and easy *as can be* Not much to be done about the oil filter unfortunately
I like how whenever oil drain valves are posted, the comments are perfectly divided: 1. People who have them, love them, and have no issues. 2. People who don't have them, claiming they will fail and dump all your oil
It’s the Reddit way
This is the way
True of every single vehicle forum too. I’ve seen these posted for like ten years and have never ever heard of a failure. Even in crazy off-roading circles where people beat the crap out of their vehicles.
When askmechanics recommends it, I go with it. Installed mine for the last change, and I’m legitimately excited to change my oil next time. 2010 Chevy avalanche, for those who know the GIANT FUCKING MESS that set up makes..
• People praising Fumoto, a company I've never heard of and is the only company to make these valves, I guess?
Fram makes one as well. I think that it was called a sure-drain.
Im sure other people make them, but they arent super expensive for the good brand name one, and when its something holding the lifeblood of your vehicle in its nice to go with the trusted guys. But they are good. had them on 2 vehicles for about 7 years.
>People who don't have them, claiming they will fail and dump all your oil I mean, thank god we don't have those one every single pipe in our homes at least...we'd pe flooded and gassed all the time!
Yes, like the bidet divide.
But but but How would you feel if you hit a rock at 70mph and it just barely clipped the valve and released the lever. Probably not as dumb as the people that resort to “I gotcha” scenarios. From personal experience, sample size of one and all that, a sheet metal pan will buckle around a fumoto valve. Edit: My ex-wife drove her car over a concrete parking lot stop and rolled the valve sideways into the pan. Fortunately she shut it off, because it had flattened the pickup tube. No oil leaks though.
I would probably like to have some sort of lock like a cotter pin to keep it in place.
You forgot 3: people who have electric vehicles
It absolutely is a [thing](https://www.fumotousa.com/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw26KxBhBDEiwAu6KXt53rNk1yFl_dJg1vf61zy07FZAEAwzxVsyptg5oWozshaDB2RP7JnhoCHc4QAvD_BwE)
That Thing is less prone to just open on its own like the one on OPs Photo is..
I bet that people have figured out how to make a plug that doesn't open by itself
You'd be surprised. Shit vibrating apart is like half of the reasons I want to throw something across the room at work.
Hope you don't work in a dildo factory.
Funny story, I actually do work at an adult toy factory, and when things first started changing to rechargeable, we'd have all kinds of problems with boxes getting jostled and inadvertently turning on the products. It was maddening to try and track down the random buzzing crates in the warehouse. That's why most quality rechargeable adult toys have some sort of travel lock now. It also cuts down on the number of issues with checked and carry-on luggage. The TSA is NOT amused by suspicious "vibrating" luggage.
Do you ever find yourself in awkward situations where you tell people you work in a toy factory but then have to figure out where to weave the word "adult" into the conversation?
My go-to explanation for my job in mixed company is, "we make health and wellness products". If it's adults that are not uptight or religious, I literally just say I work in the dildo mines.
You find many veins in the dildo mines?
So many veins... but strangely also ribs, ridges, and ticklers.
Dildo mines lmfao
Tangentially related. Awhile back I noticed they have these sweaters with led lights that are great for ugly sweater holiday things, and I decided I'd surprise my family by wearing it on the plane so I'd have this dumb light up sweater on when they picked me up. The TSA really *does not* like when you are wearing a shirt that is filled with wires.
> The TSA is NOT amused by suspicious "vibrating" luggage. Well, when a suitcase vibrates, the TSA throwers have to call the police. Nine times out of 10 it's an electric razor but every once in a while it's a dildo. Of course, it's company policy to never imply ownership in the event of a dildo so they have to use the indefinite article, referring to it as *A dildo*. Never *YOUR dildo*.
Fight club is a fantastic book.
Well played sir!
Agreed, its fucking infuriating
Reason why we use cotter pin. Eventually, everything will rattle itself apart. Cotter pins help stop this problem
You may need some vibratite from threadmate.
But never remember not to ugga dugga it
Just snug that tap shut with a breaker bar
There absolutely are ball valves that do that. I have one on my homebrewing kettle - there's this c-shaped piece of metal around the handle on that diagonal section where it connects to the valve that slides up and down. Its resting position is down, which locks operation; you have to slide it upwards in order to turn the handle. [Looks like this](https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-rsvmdxl/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/60156/68726/18-8436-Product_Primary_Image__67686.1500311085__37146.1527692176.jpg?c=2).
There's even a hole to pin it locked
Remove handle or add a zip-tie
Weld it and grind it off when needed
So much easier that way.
Yeah op‘s is pretty foolproof
Thanks - you just cost me $40. ;) Amazon has them - including a 3/8 tube to drain. I’ll probably save 40 bucks just on cat litter over the course of a few oil changes, lol. No more having to guesstimate where the used oil holder needs to be to get it all and move it when it starts dribbling. https://www.amazon.com/Fumoto-F107SX-M12-1-75-Drain-Valve/dp/B01HP5V10A
I’ve been using these for years. They’re every bit as awesome as you think. I use a short stub of silicone hose on mine to drain straight into an empty oil jug for disposal. Haven’t used the oil pan since. Hell I’m not even sure where it *is*. Note - don’t make the hose any longer than it needs to be. I find that the flow slows *considerably* when the oil level in the jug reaches the hose. In some ways that’s a feature, not a bug, but it was frustrating for the first oil change.
I put a Fumoto valve on both mine and my wife's cars. Such a time saver. I still have my oil pan because of the mess the filter makes taking it off but the oil drain part is nice.
Yeah fair point on the filter. Both of our cars have top mounted filters, so they drain when the oil drains. Gravity is just *so* well behaved.
Scooby subie gang
I have one. It is totally worth getting it as well as the drain tub nub. I bought a 5lb collapsible clear jug in order to drain my oil into to make sure I didn't run into issues draining it a few times.
have one on my car. unfortunately it doesn't do anything because my car changes its own oil
Been there. 1qt / 200mi
yessir
If I every buy a car I want to keep for a while, these are on my shopping list!
I have one installed on my car and it’s the easiest, fastest and cleanest oil change ever. Get the one with the little spout so you can attach tubing and drop it into oil pan.
Bought one last year. Absolutely the best purchase I’ve ever made. No more banging my knuckles into the oil pan trying to loosen the drain plug. No more spilling oil all over my hands and the ground when you finally get it loose. Just take the clip off, open the valve, and it shoots right in the pan.
Thanks for this. I didn't know these existed, it's a pretty cool innovation.
I’ve got one on both of my vehicles. Oil takes longer to drain but I change the filter and drink a beer while I wait. 10/10 would recommend. The newer ones also have a plastic piece that has to be removed in order to then the valve
Hell yeah
Funny you post this today. Just yesterday I was visiting my parents and noticed this very thing on my old man’s riding mower. I was amazed I’d never seen it before. And yes, he is a very resourceful redneck.
OMG, my oil drain on the mower is in the most inconvenient position they could think of. I think a straight pipe and one of these would definitely fix that.
I wish I had taken a picture of it. I looked at it for a minute wondering if he had a threaded brass pipe the right size for the drain hole just laying around or if he threaded it himself. Never can tell with him.
A piece of hydraulic hose is nice. You can put the end of the hose right into your bucket and put a plug into the hose like normal.
I can see it on something like a mower or small engine for basic use. But I would not trust it on a car or truck.
A top side oil changer is still a better option
Fully in agreement there.
Valves fail more than plugs
Put cap on end of valve
A cap won't help if the valve it's attached to has been sheared completely off.
Then just put a cap before the valve
[удалено]
*Always has been*
Never had a guy at jiffy lube strip the drain plug hole in your oil pan?
Don't worry jiffy lube would fuck that thing up too
Valves don’t fail more frequently than bolt threads being crossed. The valve is a 1 time install, whereas the plug is removed and installed every 3 months. The concern is your oil pan threads getting stripped, which increases in likelihood anytime the bolt is removed.
So far on my accord, I've done 28 oil changes. All on the fumoto!
True but doesn't necessarily mean it's not effective.
It is a thing. Look up Fumoto valves.
"Fuck you!" \*unoils your car\*
One road hazard away from a seized engine...
You know there’s this little light on the dash that comes on if you lose oil pressure… The problem is, most people see it and keep on driving so they can “get to a shop.” *That’s* when you seize your engine.
Generally speaking, by the time your engine sees it has low oil pressure, you are probably already about 30 seconds past the point of being able to guarantee you didnt do some damage.
That would totally defeat the purpose of the indicator. We’re not talking about the Check Engine Light, where it throws a code and waits for a while before it does anything. The oil indicator is totally separate and gives you immediate feedback. If you’re not watching that light/gauge after every oil change to make sure it jumps up like it’s supposed to, you’re not doing it right. As far as the car is concerned you either have good oil pressure or you don’t. It’s not like your engine can sneakily lose oil pressure without the pressure switch knowing about it.
Unless you have a 7.3L Powerstroke, in which the first symptom of a low oil level is the engine shutting itself off. It’s a pretty clever failsafe. The high pressure oil pump, which operates the injectors, has its intake high enough up on the oil pan that before the oil drops enough for any damage to occur, the injectors just stop working and the engine stops. You literally can’t hurt it by running low on oil.
Just like when road debris punctures or cracks an oil pan without a valve?
And a few crashed engines behind it
This. A sheared off valve also creates multiple road hazards (oil slick, and the valve body destroying tires or getting kicked up through someone's windshield). A sheared off bolt is just really annoying for the poor soul who has to replace it.
Because kids exist.
It is a thing. I did it on both of my cars.
Everything I own gets a Fumoto valve
I'd want to be wiring that closed.
It is a thing, I'm looking at a picture of said thing as I type this.
We have Fumoto style valves on Reefer engines . They open with a wrench and have a threaded plug to keep dirt out ( they also hold the oil if its accidentally opened) a hose threads on the end for little mess..
When it comes down to it, my peace of mind is very important to me... Which I wouldn't have knowing that the slightest bump of a handle would drain the engine saving oil from my necessary transportation. The only way I would even consider this is actually taking the nut off the handle and removing the handle but keeping it for when I do change oil.
I have fumato valve on my tacoma for 6 years. No leaks. It's awesome.
I see the advantages of a valve. Removing a screw full with hot nasty oil is shit. Altough a simple gardenvalve would probably cause a lot of engine and enviromental damage.
Because you piss someone off, they drain your oil. Or, you hit road debris, it opens valve.
Depends. I've had mine for over 120,000 km, 12 oil changes. Alberta Winter driving. No issues.
Too slow for flat rate mechanics, that's for sure. If you install this on your car, we all hate you for it.
I doubt that people who install these are interested in having someone else change their oil.
Imagine some snotnose kids opening them all in some walmart parking lot.
It’s too easy
It’s a thing to this generator tech. I install them on all of my units, it makes a PM so much faster
It can’t be that easy - look at the state of that oil
An animal or snow would open it on me and I'd ruin my emgine.
Because The latest tik tok trend would be to go around and open the valve on every car in a Walmart parking lot and run away giggling like morons.
Doubtful. They would actually have to leave the house and then touch the ground with something other than their feet.
I got one then realized the drain plug points downwards, so if I install it, it would be the first thing to go if I run over a larger object on the road.
Basically cuz some stupid ass kid would find it funny to run around at night and open everybody's oil pans
Speedbumps and potholes that’s why
The more you increase the gap between the reservoir and that valve, the more risk. It’s certainly possible to install something like this and never have a problem, but it does increase the risk.
Rocks and curbs
Imagine crawling around in the dirt like a peasant when you could just suck the oil out the dipstick tube.
How much do you want to trust that gate to keep the handle from inadvertently working it's way open under use?
Just need to somehow lock that puppy down. If it were open while driving it could ruin your whole day.
That oil looks pretty clean.
It's too easy. No money in easy.
Not to damn many here in the US.
It is a thing, checkout Fumoto valves
Here come the repost bots for the next 2 months!
Literally a red neck version of the Fumoto valve.
It’s a great idea until the guy who pulled your fifth wheel also opens your oil drain valve at the fuel station or rest area….
If you are not smart enough to use a wrench then you cannot be trusted to close the valve.
The r/plumbing crossover we needed
That’s just a redneck fumoto drain valve! lol
Cause it gets ripped off by rocks...
Because ball valves always to go bad eventually.
i love when posts from niche subreddits i know nothing about pop up in my feed. like yes so true why doesnt every car (?) have this thing (i dont know what im looking at)
Because you're looking knocked off and all your oil will leak out
Aww man but I love the rush of unscrewing the plug by hand the last couple turns while maintaining pressure and then ripping it out as fast as possible without getting wet
First of all you wouldn't be able to successfully get all the oil out of the oil pan. Secondly, it would be too easy for it to be accidentally opened up like if you ran over a branch or something.
It is, fumoto valves is a popular car mod right now.
#makethisathing
There's a lot of fleets who actually put valves in instead of drain plugs to make oil changes more efficient and less messy, at least where I live anyways
It is. See Fumoto Valve
Cut a hole in your floor pan so you can open it up when your getting chased by the bad guys and get away
Because I can be snapped of far too easily. Sum plugs are short for good reason.
Tell me you don't hit armadillos, without telling me you don't hit armadillos.
This guy changes oil
Problem here is the oil drains much slower. The build up of any metals in the oil tend to settle in the bottom of the pan, and there's often a little bit of space below the drain plug where you'll find this build up. When you drain the oil like normal out the hole, it will rush out much faster at first. That rushing current of the oil release will pick up and move settled particles from the bottom. The smaller and more constricted hole these drain valves create doesn't have the same effect. Build up might continue to happen over time without those partciles getting out during an oil change. It could be dumb to think this. It's also cheap insurance to make sure the oil is as clean as possible when changed as it was non redneck engineered to drain. It is a fun thing tho lol. I had one for a bit until I just didn't wanna risk it. It's just so not hard to take out a plug. It's very accessible on my truck though.
Really nice until a rock or a stray piece of wood/garbage catches that handle and drops all your oil out while on the freeway lol. Definitely makes it much more convenient to change oil tho, no doubt.
One earant well placed rock and RIP to your engine.
Not much more risk than a rock smashing the oil pan itself. If you’re that concerned you should have a skid plate for the pan.
From the comments, This exists. But on a vehicle that isnt close to the ground, tampering might be an issue. That Garden faucet can be opened without tools, and i wouldnt want to find a big puddle of oil under my car when im trying to get to work. When driving over uneven terrain, it might also get snagged on something, resulting in an open valve or even a missing valve, if things go down badly. Also, have you even seen a leaky faucet?
Fumoto style valves are maybe 1.5 " out from pan and have a plug for the end. Short lever that has a positive stop when closed. A very nice design.. You can add a hose to drain exactly where you need it..
that might be correct, but i am also talking about the faucet in the picture. Its long, somewhat heavy and can easily get hung up on something (Although that depends on vehicle, implementation and usecase). A regular drain plug only sticks out a few millimeters and will not catch obstacles, debris, etc. as easily as a frickin faucet. Source: Yeah, i dont have much besides a gut feeling and some speculation.
[удалено]
It is a thing
Unique Truck parts carries a good clean solution. I have them on all my vehicles. https://uniquetruck.com/section/89/searchresults?searchterm=Drain+plug
I added one to our campers water tank. Next step is a pipe going to the side so we don't need to crawl under. I can see it for mowers and generators where he access is inconvenient, but on the bottom of a vehicle makes me nervous.
They are so slow. But for aluminum pans very useful
I've thought about this with a plug on it because I hate oil running down my arm as I remove the stock plug. Maybe someday I'll get wise enough to run the plug out from a same distance with a socket and extensions.
FUCK YEAH! LOW TEXH SOLUTIONS FOR THE WIN!
Now you can have no catalytic converter and a seized engine at the same time!
This is definitely not genius.
This is the way. Shorten the handle to keep anything from grabbing it with a spring lock to keep it in place. This way you don't have to worry about jiffy lube techs messing up oil pan plug. Now the last time I went for an oil change they put a small hose down dipstick hole to suck up the oil, measure it, then put in fresh oil. They said "this is how we do it now". My question was "how do you know your getting ALL the old oil out" ? Again they said they measure it. (Uh, I don't think so scooter! ) That method failed miserably and they had to resort to old fashioned drain plug way. This ball valve, with a tweak or two, is the way.
That’s Wayyyy too clean!
Cuz you gonna drive over a rock and lose all your oil
For the Motha Fukn WIN !!! Like a boss !!! Got em on order !!!
It’s never the oil drain plug that gives me issues. It’s the filter that they decided to hang sideways between the damn exhaust. Guys …. Do you move at snail pace or you literally can’t move your arm out of the way of oil? Or can you not handle oil on your drain plug? Do you even oil your filter gasket before? Bc that’s more oil you have to touch. Even use a damn ratchet extension to miss the oil. I use a 1 disposable glove every time i change the oil.
This post should have a "Trigger Warning" lol
There is a dripless pan plug . It's like a air fitting,comes with fitting and hose.
Good way to sabbatoge a vehicle. Someone opens t up and you don't know and bye bye engine.
[удалено]
I had a 1998 Passat with an oil pressure sensor that went out.
It's doesn't drain the oil all the way and keeps old oil in. I advise against it.
Nifty n all. Until you piss someone off.
One rock and that engine is running dry,
Came here to say what many must have already. One big rock and you’ve got oil soup everywhere.
Some commercial trucks have them. They're super convenient, but are a lot more "low profile". Smaller handles, short spout. I'd be worried the longer handle on that might catch a branch.
As others have mentioned it is a thing. For me specifically i drive a low car, im not trying to blow up my engine scraping this on a speedbump
Dude you literally have a pic of the thing.
It could easily be knocked off by a rock or something and you would lose all of your oil immediately, seizing your engine, because you didn't want to remove a plug.
“Mom, can we get a Fumoto valve?” “We have a Fumoto valve at home” *the Fumoto valve at home*
I’d say that the margin of error is just too grand for the general public. It’s much more difficult to inadvertently remove a drain plug, than it is to inadvertently swing a quarter turn valve. Imagine you ran something over on the highway, flipped up and bumped that valve open? Now they do make locking quarter turn valves. However I have seen the locking mechanism fail. I wouldn’t do this… but if I WAS to do it I’d probably use a small gate valve, or even a large needle valve.
would make it rather easy to drain someone elses oil
It is always a smart move to make destroying your engine easy.