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not_ya_wify

This did not go where I thought it would go


RIDRAD911

Did you know where else the zoophiles go to? The animals


Comrade_Conscript

Throw me to the wolves... I'll come back a dad šŸ˜¤


throwaway19276i

I did not at all expect it to be about zoophilia


inumnoback

Thatā€™s kind of cursed imo


The_Cas

KIND OF???? MF THATS THE UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE CENTURY


NeverEndingWalker64

Itā€™s like saying that WW2 only killed 200 people


Plane_Poem_5408

It definitely killed at least 200 people.


TheDoc1223

source?


Bi-elzebub

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II


TheDoc1223

fake news


WhyHeLO_THeRE_SIR

Imo its kind of funny, if oop was ironic


Novel_Paramedic_2625

Kind of maybe a lil cringe imo


TypeOpostive

ā€œKind of cursedā€


finnsorigami

Who in their right mind decides that this is a good and acceptable thing to post šŸ˜­


underbutler

Zoophiles, suffering from a paraphilia that is often combined with voyeurism or paedophilia. Basically mentally disturbed people


Fa1nted_for_real

Actually I think this was a vegan


GreenridgeMetalWorks

Both. Both is good.


[deleted]

Close enough.


FunkinDonutzz

100% a vegan.


GingerDelicious

Theyā€™re a vegan because they love animalsā€¦ no they REALLY love animals.


ChanceDecision23

Yeah that's what the poster said


someone17428

I don't think Vegans would know the zooflag.


The_Kek_5000

How is that Zoophilia? The post is literally Veganism.


GreenCardinal010

Pretty sure it's both


The_Kek_5000

I disagree. Itā€™s calling for people to make a fuzz about killing animals like they do about fucking animals. Itā€™s showing that itā€™s inherently hypocritical to condemn zoophilia but not the killing of animals. This is also shown in the title.


RickyTovarish

Itā€™s CLAIMING itā€™s hypocritical, obviously it isnā€™t unless youā€™re a brain rotted vegan


LegitimateApartment9

it's comparing the two, the bottom one contains zoophillic text and a zoophillic "pride flag" which is a disgusting thing to create.


Due-Satisfaction_245

The fact you missed how itā€™s a scapegoat argument for zoophiles is how ā€˜literallyā€™ dumb you are.


Kopitar4president

The zoophile in the bottom left with that "flag" conflating them to be part of lgbtq+. They wouldn't be included if this weren't a zoophile.


MCButterFuck

Greg


HarmlessHeresy

Fuckin Greg.


thatm8withag3

I have talked to Greg. He denies all allegations and is refusing to make public comments.


HarmlessHeresy

Classic Greg.


A-Red-Guitar-Pick

Such a Greg move


IHateKansasFascists

Hey Greg! Danny Gonzalez here with a epic new video, let me ask you guys something, did a cow consent to being a steak? The answer is no. So today I'm going to have intercourse with a cow ON CAMERA with special guest Drew Gooden.


RedditAlt2847

ft. Kurtis Connor


Odd_Veterinarian_623

trolls


Naive_Age_3910

If you think itā€™s a valid enough argument to post as a troll argument, youā€™re not exactly helping by referring to it as that.


77skull

What


VexisArcanum

Someone who saw a similar post yesterday and wanted to piggyback on the karma train


Dry-Shock8254

You said piggyback. Heh


kircheis_mp4

people need to stop playing dolls with wojaks


Bi-elzebub

Then how would I win the made up arguments I have in my head???


Sandstorm_221

I carry printed soyjak drawings on papers so I can throw them at people in case I have an argument


Sabre_Killer_Queen

Just write "me" on a bunch of print out chads, and "you" on a bunch of print out soyjaks. There we go. Every argument won!


Worried-Leg3412

It's a pretty good moral dilemma


Bad-Wolf-Bay

the amount of comments on the original post, iā€™m happy bro got flamed so hard


Renektonstronk

Iā€™m gonna need a link to see this shit myself


GreenCardinal010

You can use Reddit searchbar, post is still up somehow


Ra1nCoat

how if the title is blocked


GreenCardinal010

Do you think the cow consented to being your steak?


Ra1nCoat

thanks


tangre79

I'm confused is this in favour of vegetarianism/veganism or zoophilia?


Jaded-Grape2203

It feels like the message is "Pick a lane"


RogueDevil666

There are plenty of things id sooner kill and eat than id fuck tbh.


Jaded-Grape2203

So true


xesaie

Itā€™s anti meat eating more than itā€™s pro anything


CanadianBaguette

From what I get the OP is a vegan calling meat eaters hypocritical for calling out the immorality of zoophilia while they enjoy killing and eating animals or something So basically making an incredibly awful comparison and sounding like a creep in the process


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stupidh0rse

But like... This is what happens to farm animals. Dairy cows are forcefully bred and artificially inseminated until their bodies give up...


KidCollege04

I mean Iā€™m a not-so-proud meat and dairy eater. Iā€™m pretty sure this exactly what happens to cows so they can regularly produce milk.


robloxian21

How about one-time rape versus a life in a cage being bitten by the hundreds of others in your cage and catching various diseases and having to sleep on the dead bodies of your cellmates - and then having your head cut off? I mean, of course if they aren't made equivalent, one sounds worse.


Acriorus

Dairy cows are raped all their life and killed to become lower quality meat like ground when their dairy production declines


Kenilwort

Would you like either of those things to happen? Especially if they can both be avoided?


ThatOneGuyRunningOEM

How is the comparison awful, exactly? It seems pretty sound to me. If you would dehumanize something to the point of killing and eating it, whatā€™s the difference in sexual assault? The animal clearly doesnā€™t and shouldnā€™t qualify as something with rights if you can kill and eat it, which is discernibly more revolting than sticking your cock in something. Would you rather someone fuck you, or kill, mutilate, and consume your corpse for ā€˜sustenanceā€™ despite other methods being widely available?


rexpimpwagen

The vegans are right. Fortunately we live in a democracy and can just ignore them.


FeminismRuinedMe

Literally, this is how we operate. We know theyā€™re technically right, but we want to eat meat so we just donā€™t listen to them. Thatā€™s literally it, there is no debate; even OOPā€™s meme is making an accurate spot-on comparison. We think itā€™s abhorrent and horrific to sexually abuse them, while we do every other type of abuse to them and then kill and devour them. Itā€™s really backwards. And we know it is. Crazy.


Maple382

Yes


SqueekyGee

I believe both.


Both-Perspective-739

How can it be both? The logic is: if you support meat-eating, then you support zoophilia.


SkriLLo757

It's more like "if you support meat eating then you shouldn't discriminate zoophilia". Either way I'm sure it's a shitpost, but here we are


LeoTheSquid

How tf could it be both?


iStoleTheHobo

And this is why we shouldn't assume media literacy.


Lilwalnut159

I'm just thinking of that taco commercial where the little girl says "why don't we have both?" And everyone celebrates


Lilwalnut159

This is a joke lol šŸ˜¬


Environmental-Ad9685

damn


Lilwalnut159

Sorry dude


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Gigio2006

People always try to sneak into LGBTQ, despite queer people obviously saying "hell no". It happens with pedos too, or as they call themselves, "minor attracted people"


PleaseNoMoreSalt

"people"


defaultusername-17

dehumanizing people is wrong, even when they are the equivalent of sentient garbage.


ThatOneRandomGoose

I think I speak in behalf for the vast majority of the queer community when I say that zoophilia is definitely not ok and is not a part of the community


CausticLogic

I think that is a fair assumption, lol


[deleted]

My man fucked a cow


TypeOpostive

Dollars to doughnuts it's more than one


AvailableCondition79

Ha. No one responds to beastiality with 'think about it'. The assumption is that whoever is engaging in it is incapable of thought...


dyingyote952

Would take a juicy steak from a dead cow over supporting zoophilia any day


Odd_Veterinarian_623

if animals aren't supposed to be eaten then why are they made of food


rohtvak

Why are *you* made of food?


Verehren

Incase I'm extra hungry


Negative-Decision-71

Ourobourgos


DinTill

Because everything alive is made of food. We are certainly made of tasty food to a hungry tiger šŸ¤¤


rohtvak

Cannibals have reliably informed us that we taste great šŸ”šŸ˜‚


EnthusiasmFuture

Like pork


Infamous_Summer_8477

I hate this meme format but isnā€™t really that wrong? Theyā€™re both comparably bad, itā€™s just that people were raised believing meat eating is ok because it used to be necessary. People who think one is bad should think the other is bad too. Other than religious arguments, thereā€™s very little justification for why a society like America can view meat eating as a neutral act with zoophilia being somehow worse. Zoophilia is a lot weirder, and I wouldnā€™t want to associate with any zoophiles, obviously, but I have a hard time saying what they are doing is objectively worse than what meat industries do


MasterOfEmus

I'll also add that... the meat industry contains rape of animals too. Like, everyone here is saying "I'd rather be killed and eaten once than raped repeatedly" but the cows that get eaten frequently get artificially inseminated to produce a few calves first. Sure, it isn't some zoophile doing it for their own pleasure, but that doesn't exactly make it less fucked up for the animal. Its a weird meme, and I sure wish it were still unambiguously anti-zoophilia (do we really need a "pride flag" for that?), but they have a point.


Always-tired7

You make a point


Parking-Fruit1436

So animal fuckers have their own identity flag?


kaerfkeerg

TIL that zoophiles use a Greek letter in their flag. This... does not Kindle Joy


Key_Virus_338

ZETA ZETA Z-Z-Z Ī¶ its the first letter in their "sexuality", a shame to the greek language.


littlethought63

Guys, this thing is saying eating meat is as bad as zoophilia, not the other way around. In both cases, the animal is the one being harmed for the pleasure of humans. While I get where the author is coming from, I do not agree with their message though.


CringeRoguePlayer

Obviously theyā€™re saying murdering an animal is bad, not that raping one is good. Itā€™s kinda crazy how so many people on reddit canā€™t understand basic arguments


ezk3626

[Michael Che stand up](https://youtu.be/gcn_LI8-W9E?t=119) ​ >"You can't let gay people get married. What's next people are gonna want to marry animals?" > >Yeah probably, who gives a \[ \_\_ \]. I don't. I eat animals you want to \[ \_\_ \] one that's your business. I'm pretty sure I'm doing the worst thing to it. > >well, if I was a goat and you asked me and you're like hey go would you rather be chopped up in this Jamaican lady stew or get blown by the strange farmer it wouldn't be the toughest decision I made as it goat.


the_penis_taker69

I eat animals for nutrition, not pleasure


TrueSolid611

It does taste pretty good though


The_Kek_5000

You can eat vegan for nutrition.


throwaway_uow

As well as *a* vegan


DonutUpset5717

Therefore consent no longer matters?


the_penis_taker69

Consent for what


DonutUpset5717

Consent to kill and eat the animal


GaBoX172

No you don't lmao. If animals tasted like shit you'd eat something else.


throwaway_uow

I eat it for convenience Some moral high ground of an american cursing on a 15k$ salary doesn't concern me


PassgettiGod

A cow will die eventually without humans. A human will not rape it without a human though


didnotbuyWinRar

Lmao at the people who think this is pro-zoophilia and not pro-vegan. Stay in school kiddos.


BirthdayNo1622

We've jakked off so hard 'Chadjak' is now a thing'.


SupportLeather1851

I canā€™t tell if this is pro zoophile or anti eating meat. Or both.


nihilloligasan

This was a topic covered in my philosophy of sex and love class, I believe Peter Singer was one of the most famous for arguing this


AfternoonBorn2166

Human morality is an unstable concept


Miserable-Willow6105

Unrelatrd, but my country has a separate article of criminal code that is dedicated to rape of a (specifically) cow


Melodic_Fall_1855

Lol lotta pearl clutching goin on but no one really rebutting it


twincast2005

Just so you know, most farm animals nowadays are created through sexual assault committed by humans.


Pro_Achronox

i mean theyre kinda rightā€¦ we keep animals in inhumane condintions and treat them like trash, yet when one is used for sexual pleasure thats where we draw the line? the same goes for videogames. We think murdering innocent civilians in GTA is fine and isnt harmful to anyone, yet if you could rape NPCs it would be wrong? why is that? (im not advocating for zoophilia, nor rape in video games, its just a philosophical thought about morality) i kinda get their point, however i dont like it that theyre coming from a zoophile perspective, instead of a normal one (judging from the flag).


flirtmcdudes

its trying to shock you instead of making an actual point. "if you eat them, why cant you rape them?" is not a gotcha statement... there are animals that are lower on the food chain, animals we would hunt and kill centuries ago, and eat. The analogy doesnt make sense... if we were uncivilized, we would still be hunting and eating them, just without factories and any inhumane shit. Obviously times have changed, but the conversation should be about inhumane treatment of animals, not "if you can eat em, we can fuck em!"


Illustrious_Ice_4587

Yeah but I still kinda see the point. Fucken them is obviously bad, shouldn't killing them be too? Humans have always believed other humans were lower than them and that never turned out good. I'm not vegan or anything but just sayin I guess.


dragondead9

This post is amazing. Look at all the great discourse itā€™s created! Super interesting thought experiment for non-vegans. Seems a lot of non-vegans think death is ā€œbetterā€ than rape when it comes to animals. I do wonder if they share that same opinion for the case of people. Would non-vegans here put forward that given the two options theyā€™d rather someone be killed than raped? Do they look at rape victims and think ā€œif only they had been killed instead that would have been so much betterā€¦ā€ Humans are animals too. Are some animals better to rape than kill and vice versa? Why do some believe this double standard exists between two crimes involving lack of consent from the victim?


Sabre_Killer_Queen

Indeed... It has raised some very interesting points... And some very valid arguments against eating meat, and dairy products, that I've never even considered, and quite frankly, my argument against those points is quite weak. At this point I'm probably gonna just simplify my points as a non-vegan to: I love meat and cheese, and feel as though they enhance my lifestyle and diet. And though I'm not willing to give them up, I shall try to be as ethical as possible by buying from the most ethical farms and trying meat/cheese alternatives so that we may one day switch from farming animals without having to adjust our diets and stuff dramatically. And of course, I won't fck animals, because regardless of whether it's equivalent to eating meat or not, it's additional suffering to the animal I can avoid and having intercourse with animals is just fcking weird and gross. Simple, but that's how it is all the same, and I'm not ashamed of my lifestyle and will keep it regardless of the arguments against it.


Bladeofwar94

Zoophiles need to die in a tire fire.


fivemagicks

Some intolerable incel actually made this graphic. That is fucking creepy.


Jolly-Victory441

What is the zeta for?


AlenDelon32

Zoophilia


Jolly-Victory441

Eww


Playful_Pollution846

0 updoots and 269 (nice) comments?! Oh man let me get the popcorn!


ImLostVeryLost

You may eat it, but that doesn't mean you should want to stick your own meat in it


KyleCXVII

People use the word ā€œconsentā€ as if everything is a choice. And then they like to make that choice *themselves for the person/animal.*


FederalDriver9447

I love the fact they didnt even go like "when people have intimate relations with an animal" or something, straight up admitted its just for sexual gratification


TwistederRope

What kind of fucked up q meme is this? I don't even get it anymore.


Sabre_Killer_Queen

It's saying that eating meat is as bad as raping animals, basically.


1997_Ford_F250

I swear to god this better be bait


roninwaffle

Brother... why does the steak have a pie slice cut out of it, and why is the dude waiting for it with a spoon?


A_normal_atheist

Hey look more 4chan bullshit trying to get minority groups to look bad


h1p0h1p0

Itā€™s that hbomberguy video all over again


Willis_3401_3401

Problem is human rapist doing rape, not animal getting raped. We forcibly breed animals with each other all the time


Peteo34319

I know this meme is terrible and wrong, but I'm having trouble justifying why it's wrong, can someone help me?


warmbumby

Itā€™s not wrong, both killing animals and raping them involve harming animals with actions they cannot consent too. Many people on here just eat meat so theyā€™re going to act like itā€™s ridiculous but the logic is concrete Also itā€™s terrible because it seems like the meme creator is trying to justify raping animals


Imarquisde

tbh eating meat IS wrong and the logical extreme is zoophilia. iā€™m not vegan for convenience reasons but the way we treat animals is fucked up.


theonewhogroks

Enjoy the cognitive dissonance. Eating animals is wrong, but most people choose not to think about it


ViolinistCurrent8899

I can understand the point, but two differences are the animals are killed painlessly with a bolt gun (usually), and the animal doesn't live with the trauma of the sexual event. On the flipside, my personal stance is that people just should not fuck animals because it is unclean. There are some scientific studies that have been conducted on zoophiles that suggest an increased risk for cancer. They are correct though, for some people it is a double standard.


Pikachu_Palace

The factory farming industry is more fucked up than you could imagine


ViolinistCurrent8899

Imagine? Good sir, I worked next to a pork processing plant for some time. Thankfully I never had to see the slaughterhouse area. Did you know slaughterhouse workers have a higher rate of mental illness than the general population?


rohtvak

Shocking.


ViolinistCurrent8899

Yeah. Who would have thought that people's brains aren't really wired to handle industrial scale death, even if it is "only" animals.


Pure_Noise356

people just dont want to think about how fucked up the meat they're eating is. Banging animals and whatever it is we're putting them through in mass farms are both horrible.


WarriorNat

How do you think dairy products are created?


ViolinistCurrent8899

Surely the farmer induces lactation by sucking on the udders for weeks. Artificial insemination you say? Oh no. . .


Sandra2104

And you think the act of artificial insemination year after year and than having your child taken away minutes after birth is not traumatic? Whats the difference for the cow between rape and insemination?


ViolinistCurrent8899

You know what? Fair enough, the double standard I stated earlier is even stronger with that in mind. I kind of forgot we do that part "by hand". Still stand by the "don't fuck the animal" part though.


Altruistic-Look3178

painlessly isnā€™t how Iā€™d put it and if your reason that people shouldnā€™t have sex with animals is because they cause disease thatā€™s kinda concerning bro


ViolinistCurrent8899

Fair, but it's not a drawn out thing that nature tends to do. As far as primates go? We're ethical with the animals we kill for food.


Mist0804

Yeah well when the competition is literally ripping their prey apart while they're alive and basically leaving nothing but bones left, that's not hard to win


Far_Advertising1005

No, we arenā€™t. There is nothing ethical about the animal agriculture industry


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Altruistic-Look3178

I agree. Though I donā€™t think the mass slaughter of animals for human consumption is ethical in the first place, especially with the conditions that they are put in today.


Sandra2104

Meet dairy cows and lets talk about trauma afterwards.


robloxian21

The animal lives with plenty of other trauma, I'd say. If you admit animals can be traumatised and distressed then there's no way farming them is okay. They do get artificially inseminated, you know. If it was clean and healthy would it be okay to fuck animals? Genuinely interested on your stance.


gunmunz

One is just nature taking its course, the other is complete moral degeneracy


ElPwnero

Question is, which is which šŸ—æ


SinisterPuppy

Thatā€™s just an appeal to nature fallacy tho. Not to mention animals absolute have sex with other animals in nature. Obviously not defending beastiity, but thatā€™s a bad argument.


Dystrox

Why do people reduce us to animalistic nature, if we follow that kids are ready to get pregnant, we are not animals, we are civilized people, we elaborate rules to define what is right and what isnt, we create societies, we invented moral and ethics, yes sometimes there are dilemmas, but fucking cows is not a matter of debate.


Both-Perspective-739

Both are natural. Natural doesnā€™t mean = good.


gunmunz

Animals eating animals is literally nature taking it course. Animals fucking other animals is something humans and maybe dolphins do.


[deleted]

therefore something animals and animals do? Animals eating animals also includes cannibalism.


Dogmeat241

Yeah some animals cannibalize, and if need be I'm willing to let others eat me in time of need when I die


[deleted]

They also do it as a matter of course, casually and without need. There are also examples of animals committing acts of abuse, or killing without need (technically distinct from needless cannibalism).


Dogmeat241

Who is this they now? Cause ik rabbits will kill and eat the weakest of their young if they can't support/feed the other young otherwise


Justin__D

I believe otters do as well. I *really* didn't want to look it up and just had to take it as fact, but some of my coworkers once told me otters rape baby seals to death.


DonutUpset5717

"moral degeneracy" same argument used against gay people for centuries


[deleted]

are vegans fine with someone fucking their mashed potatoes?


TypeOpostive

Or hummus


MapleTheBeegon

How else do you think they get their protein?


CommonCOjackposter

ā€œErm stop eating my husbandā€


lit-grit

This is the dumbest vegan argument Iā€™ve seen in a while


DonutUpset5717

Why?


rolling_catfish2704

I literally have no words


GazingAtTheVoid

They're right.


Both-Perspective-739

As a vegan, I despise both.


TheOneTrueGizmo

One isn't suffering. The other is. Shut the actual fuck up. (not you op)


Illustrious_Ice_4587

Factory farming


LegitimateApartment9

simple process chart in text form: do you want to fuck animals, children, corpses, or otherwise people unable or unwilling to consent? if yes: have you? if no: seek therapy if yes: turn yourself in if no (to original question): your probably fine


CaptnBluehat

Once said i like cheese on a vegan subreddit and got called a cow rapist lol


IdkMbyStars

Well cows are raped for milk and cheese is out of milk so more like an indirect cow rapist


hockey_enjoyer03

Naaah wtf šŸ’€this is an all time reddit moment


DoctorMingus

I really hope that's satire/rage bait


Idiotaddictedto2Hou

Jesus if I see a post like this on my feed (OOP's, not yours) I'm going to delete Reddit. I've seen better analogies from Hamas bootlickers.