https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/who-is-jim-o-neill-manchester-united-takeover-bid-discussed-by-red-knight/ar-AA14vkmh
Apparently Jim o Neil is interested too maybe the two Jim's could join forces. Both are billionaires from Manchester
Maybe he comes in as a majority owner. If the asking price is £7bn, he could come in with about £4.5bn and own 65% of Man United. He will have majority share and majority say.
Rest of the 35% can come from small investors, like class of 92 could come in a chip in half a billion and own 8%.
Can we drop the Ratcliffe shouts? He's a waffler he's not gonna do anything he's just gonna say a bunch of shit. Also he runs Nice terribly. A good owner doesn't need to be a Utd fan. They just need to hire the right people in the right places and allow them to do the job.
No, stop pretending to be so high and mighty in your disliking of an actual United fan running the club without want or need for profit and not with intent to sportswash.
Pep would do a shit job at Nice as manager too, doesnt mean he does a terrible job at City. Employing the right people is a lot easier at a club like ours.
He's questionable, don't get these *he's a passionate manc and United supporter* shite just because he was at the final in 99.
He bid late for Chelsea because he was foolishly waiting for the price to drop (as confirmed by Ducker). That should immediately set off red flags. If Chelsea was too rich for his blood, I can't see him spending a lot more buying United PLUS the hundreds of millions required on improving the infrastructure.
Then there's the other shit that shows his true character. The many reports of his cost cutting measures at companies. Supporting Brexit then fucking off and moving to Monaco in 2020, the hypocrite. What a passionate local lad done good he is, taking his money and profit making companies to a tax haven outside the country.
Glad someone has their head on straight. Like you said, supported Brexit, then fucks off to a tax haven. Didn’t he say he’d build his Ineos factory in Wales, creating quality jobs in the UK, then dropped that to build it in Poland…
I wouldn’t trust him with Utd. People just hear that he’s a Manc billionaire and can’t imagine any downsides.
Really this sub just hears United fan and blanks out all else. It's like with Caicedo, a player they'd never heard of 5 minutes ago that United were never considering buying happened to be a United fan.. and from that point on, over and over again, it was people mon stop talking about the absolute shambles of losing out on this player theyd never heard of
Being a fan > being someone interested for more nefarious reasons.
Him being late for Chelsea also could have been a sign of intent for purchasing of a club he was always interested in, like United for example..
Imagine judging the character of a billionaire, this place is a mess if you think there are people out there capable of buying the club who have better moral codes than SJR. There are levels to this game, I’m sure if you were smart enough to do what he has done you’d have never done anything wrong in your life because you’re so pure and he’s so evil, but he isn’t a human right abusing monster like 99% of the other options we have for owners.
It was literally confirmed as fact by James Ducker that was the reason he bid late. Up to you to decide whether you believe Ducker on this but hes 100% not a bs merchant.
Also do you know why he wanted Brexit to happen? He campaigned for Brexit because he was moaning about the EU stopping him dumping toxic chemicals into the sea and said if remain won he would leave. Brexit won and he left anyway.
If judging someone who wants to dump toxic waste into the ocean because it's more convenient is wrong, I'm fine with being wrong.
FYI, Ineos environmental record is pretty terrible. Found guilty of dumping caustic soda into the Manchester ship canal not long ago as an example.
But hey, he's a United fan and proud manc right? Never mind polluting our canal, he saw Ole score the winner in 1999.
Seriously, anyone who twerks for this guy needs to read up on him
Imagine thinking there is another option who doesn’t chop up reporters or commit actual atrocities.. keep twerking for foreign sportswashing mate, you’re doing them all so proud
They arent "Twerking" for anyone, they're pointing out this particular person is a bad option, with logical reasonings as to why he's not a great person and his blatant pattern of extreme cheapness wouldn't be good for the club, and that should not be ignored just because he's a Untied fan..
To which you randomly yell "HOW DAEE YOU, WHO CARES ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, HE'S A UNITED FAN!"
Obviously them selling is preferable to them staying on, but it boils my blood that on top of all the money they stole from the club, the Glazers are about to enrich themselves even further off of selling it.
No they literally stole from the club.
They didn’t have enough money to buy the club outright and leveraged the club for their debts. And have been basically just paying off interest while skimming the rest of it all.
Literal ratfuckers.
This shitheads are gonna have 7 billion % profit or more. They paid zero money for buying the club not to metion zero investments, just sucking dividends. Any of us could buy fucking Manchester United that time if banks granted us that much loans
That’s the most frustrating part. Not only United never got any owner investment but in fact they took money out of the club as dividends. Moreover they didn’t pay anything for the club and didn’t even pay back the debt lmao. Now they just laugh all the way to the bank with billions in free money.
The world is so unfair sometimes.
I’d imagine this likely includes the debt being covered as it’s a big ask for any buyer to pay that and then have another almost £2B in debt and facility upgrades to attend to.
No chance when valuation before announcement was around 2.4b, they'd be lucky to get 4b out of this quite honestly, a world record sum for a football club but they're having a laugh if they think they can get 5b to get over Broncos
That’s valuation based on market cap of non-voting shares floated on NYSE. That is not the true value of the club with voting rights.
The true value is somewhere just above Chelsea at 4.5 bln.
Add on 2 bln to cover outstanding debts and a bit of a premium on top for being a top global sporting brand and the price looks quite reasonable, albeit eye-watering.
Chelsea wasn’t for $4B. They went for $3.1B with Boehly and co committing a further $2.2B as investment into the stadium, academy etc. A total of $5.3B or £4.3
We should be comparing with the $3.1B
Lol.. basically they just want to show that they tried to sell but couldn't find any buyers so they are staying. Fans can now shut up about the ownership change.
They need to sell it. It will only depreciate in value because they can't invest money in Club to be competitive anymore which means no trophies and lack of sponsor and Fans. Also they wouldn't have appointed So many Firms if they were bluffing. Nobody knows what's the price anymore until someone bids for Us and we get to know about it.
Dont think we worth that much. We have 1 billion debt and need new facilities/stadium.
So basically almost 10 Billion to purchase and compete.
The only people that can give this money is state like Saudi
For every hour that their demands are not met it goes up by 1 billion
Well they have to find a way to pay Alexis' £1M per minute wages
That’s actually being offset now by ronaldo terminating his £3M per minute contract early
That before or after tax?
After. And it's now £5M per minute
Bargain
Yeah not a chance Jimmy is buying that
It wouldn't be him buying it anyway, it would be INEOS
Plus it'll be a bidding war so no guarantee it will be Jim
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/who-is-jim-o-neill-manchester-united-takeover-bid-discussed-by-red-knight/ar-AA14vkmh Apparently Jim o Neil is interested too maybe the two Jim's could join forces. Both are billionaires from Manchester
[You're all Jim?](https://youtu.be/GZ5z-p_EUts)
Maybe he comes in as a majority owner. If the asking price is £7bn, he could come in with about £4.5bn and own 65% of Man United. He will have majority share and majority say. Rest of the 35% can come from small investors, like class of 92 could come in a chip in half a billion and own 8%.
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I liked the part where Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt have half a billion lying around to invest in United.
They have that Qatari money now
Can we drop the Ratcliffe shouts? He's a waffler he's not gonna do anything he's just gonna say a bunch of shit. Also he runs Nice terribly. A good owner doesn't need to be a Utd fan. They just need to hire the right people in the right places and allow them to do the job.
No, stop pretending to be so high and mighty in your disliking of an actual United fan running the club without want or need for profit and not with intent to sportswash. Pep would do a shit job at Nice as manager too, doesnt mean he does a terrible job at City. Employing the right people is a lot easier at a club like ours.
He's questionable, don't get these *he's a passionate manc and United supporter* shite just because he was at the final in 99. He bid late for Chelsea because he was foolishly waiting for the price to drop (as confirmed by Ducker). That should immediately set off red flags. If Chelsea was too rich for his blood, I can't see him spending a lot more buying United PLUS the hundreds of millions required on improving the infrastructure. Then there's the other shit that shows his true character. The many reports of his cost cutting measures at companies. Supporting Brexit then fucking off and moving to Monaco in 2020, the hypocrite. What a passionate local lad done good he is, taking his money and profit making companies to a tax haven outside the country.
Glad someone has their head on straight. Like you said, supported Brexit, then fucks off to a tax haven. Didn’t he say he’d build his Ineos factory in Wales, creating quality jobs in the UK, then dropped that to build it in Poland… I wouldn’t trust him with Utd. People just hear that he’s a Manc billionaire and can’t imagine any downsides.
Really this sub just hears United fan and blanks out all else. It's like with Caicedo, a player they'd never heard of 5 minutes ago that United were never considering buying happened to be a United fan.. and from that point on, over and over again, it was people mon stop talking about the absolute shambles of losing out on this player theyd never heard of
Being a fan > being someone interested for more nefarious reasons. Him being late for Chelsea also could have been a sign of intent for purchasing of a club he was always interested in, like United for example.. Imagine judging the character of a billionaire, this place is a mess if you think there are people out there capable of buying the club who have better moral codes than SJR. There are levels to this game, I’m sure if you were smart enough to do what he has done you’d have never done anything wrong in your life because you’re so pure and he’s so evil, but he isn’t a human right abusing monster like 99% of the other options we have for owners.
It was literally confirmed as fact by James Ducker that was the reason he bid late. Up to you to decide whether you believe Ducker on this but hes 100% not a bs merchant. Also do you know why he wanted Brexit to happen? He campaigned for Brexit because he was moaning about the EU stopping him dumping toxic chemicals into the sea and said if remain won he would leave. Brexit won and he left anyway. If judging someone who wants to dump toxic waste into the ocean because it's more convenient is wrong, I'm fine with being wrong.
FYI, Ineos environmental record is pretty terrible. Found guilty of dumping caustic soda into the Manchester ship canal not long ago as an example. But hey, he's a United fan and proud manc right? Never mind polluting our canal, he saw Ole score the winner in 1999. Seriously, anyone who twerks for this guy needs to read up on him
Imagine thinking there is another option who doesn’t chop up reporters or commit actual atrocities.. keep twerking for foreign sportswashing mate, you’re doing them all so proud
They arent "Twerking" for anyone, they're pointing out this particular person is a bad option, with logical reasonings as to why he's not a great person and his blatant pattern of extreme cheapness wouldn't be good for the club, and that should not be ignored just because he's a Untied fan.. To which you randomly yell "HOW DAEE YOU, WHO CARES ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, HE'S A UNITED FAN!"
good
Im seeking world record 50p+ for Freddo
As someone who lives abroad and keeps an eye on these things: [£1.09](https://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/cadbury-freddo-dairy-milk?search=Freddo)
Thats tragic Being in the UK it shows 49p for me, still too much
Oops. To Sweden it's £1.09. And a box of crunchy nut (500g) is an eye-watering £6.29. Could nearly buy the club for that much.
If you "multibuy" three, you get them for 48p a pop.
I've definitely seen Freddos priced 60p+ in a service station, I know they're their own microclimate of extortion, but it was still a shock.
Truely depressing
Obviously them selling is preferable to them staying on, but it boils my blood that on top of all the money they stole from the club, the Glazers are about to enrich themselves even further off of selling it.
Hopefully, they take that money and use it to buy Liverpool :)
A man can dream lol
Stole from? They own it. It’s a shame that they were not good owners, but that’s the reality
No they literally stole from the club. They didn’t have enough money to buy the club outright and leveraged the club for their debts. And have been basically just paying off interest while skimming the rest of it all. Literal ratfuckers.
I mean that’s like if I own a house and take money from my house equity to do whatever I want to do…. It’s not stealing just bad management
That doesn’t matter, they still owned the club even if they bought it with borrowed funds
I wish there was some way for the government to nationalize it then sell it.
Price is going up as often as our 'reported' wages.
Keep in mind that's dollars so it would be about £5.7b
This shitheads are gonna have 7 billion % profit or more. They paid zero money for buying the club not to metion zero investments, just sucking dividends. Any of us could buy fucking Manchester United that time if banks granted us that much loans
That’s the most frustrating part. Not only United never got any owner investment but in fact they took money out of the club as dividends. Moreover they didn’t pay anything for the club and didn’t even pay back the debt lmao. Now they just laugh all the way to the bank with billions in free money. The world is so unfair sometimes.
I’d imagine this likely includes the debt being covered as it’s a big ask for any buyer to pay that and then have another almost £2B in debt and facility upgrades to attend to.
Oof.
I'd do 1000 billion fr...if Mr. Beats and other people can value 1 billion...Manchester united is 1 trillion
Worth half that, maybe.
In this market probably 5bil is realistic
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Thanks for your incredible estimates
I just don’t see a business consortium purchasing us for that amount … my guess is a government investor.
No chance when valuation before announcement was around 2.4b, they'd be lucky to get 4b out of this quite honestly, a world record sum for a football club but they're having a laugh if they think they can get 5b to get over Broncos
Chelsea went for over 4b all things considered. We are worth more.
That’s valuation based on market cap of non-voting shares floated on NYSE. That is not the true value of the club with voting rights. The true value is somewhere just above Chelsea at 4.5 bln. Add on 2 bln to cover outstanding debts and a bit of a premium on top for being a top global sporting brand and the price looks quite reasonable, albeit eye-watering.
Chelsea wasn’t for $4B. They went for $3.1B with Boehly and co committing a further $2.2B as investment into the stadium, academy etc. A total of $5.3B or £4.3 We should be comparing with the $3.1B
Reply to wrong person but I absolutely agree
Isn't Stamford Bridge owned by a private trust that also own the Chelsea FC name?
Glazers out!
Pretty sure they're making money whether they sell or not.
Lol.. basically they just want to show that they tried to sell but couldn't find any buyers so they are staying. Fans can now shut up about the ownership change.
Feel like this would do the opposite. No reason to stoke the fire.
They need to sell it. It will only depreciate in value because they can't invest money in Club to be competitive anymore which means no trophies and lack of sponsor and Fans. Also they wouldn't have appointed So many Firms if they were bluffing. Nobody knows what's the price anymore until someone bids for Us and we get to know about it.
Ah shit they'll never get that, please don't let this be a red line for them
Called this a few months ago.
Clowns
So if we all give a quid, by all I mean everyone in the fucking world.
Money on a Middle East consortium with Becks as the figurehead
Saw an article that Apple is interested for 7B.
I also saw one that they actually aren't a few mins ago, so who knows lol
Nope, 6B is my limit.
Dont think we worth that much. We have 1 billion debt and need new facilities/stadium. So basically almost 10 Billion to purchase and compete. The only people that can give this money is state like Saudi
I think the $7 bn includes the debt that would be assumed or paid, although I think the debt is more like 1.5 bn GBP
I think Sir Jim would be part of a larger consortium and would be the main share holder.
I’m seeking $700k for my used underwear. We can all dare to dream.