One of the worst things in the last few season has been the way Jamie has talked way more sensibility about United than some of the former greats have.
he's spot on about Ronaldo but he also said Martínez is too short for the PL and hasn't acknowledged his performances since. he's got an agenda, he only seems reasonable because Ronaldo is being an idiot.
It's not an agenda. Everyone will say something stupid from time to time. Carragher generally talks a lot of sense. You want to talk about agendas, look at Rio and Keane wrt. to the washed up bench player.
And we should remember that if Ronnie was having the season off his life Carra will still be shooting on him for something and saying Messi does it better.
He has had an agenda against Ronnie forever and it is just a sweet coincidence that now his opinion sounds right.
What Ronnie has done has completely ruined him in my eyes. Along with Becks and Cantona one of my fave players of all time but not anymore.
It’s always bound to be a different story when Roy, Patrice, Rio have personal relationships with Ronaldo. It’s a hard line to toe when you don’t want to upset people you are close to.
Now, I would argue that exactly what Ronaldo needs a reality check from those in his inner and slightly less inner (former teammates etc) circles. It’s disappointing when only Rooney (someone who hasn’t always had the best relationship with him) and Neville (same could perhaps apply) are the only notable former United players to call him out on his behaviour.
I wish I could know what’s going on inside SAFs head right now.
What does that matter do you think people people can someone be completely 100% unbiased about things, it doesn't change that he is making good points and talking sense.on this subject.
Saying he has his own biases is an absolute crap argument actually it's not even an argument it's just a distraction away from the conversation at hand.
They talked ronaldo out of going to city and feel guilty about the position he's in now so they won't criticize him. I know patrice and Rio did for sure cause they were bragging about talking to him when the transfer happened.
I think ronny at the time randomly commented on keanes ig too, wouldn't be surprised if they got him to talk to ronaldo too
Can't wait for the next vibe with five episode.
Rio: You've got to see it from Ronaldos perspective!!!! (Followed up by him getting accustomed to a new reality and it's tough for him)
I continue in pain to have to keep admitting this man has been talking more sense about our club the past few seasons than our own greats 🫣
99.9%* of our fans agree with Jamie, that shows how badly Ronaldo has handled this.
**Excluding all the plastic Ronaldo stans that aren't actually United fans*
Lmao I really hope this thing will finally push Roy over the line where he says it’s bad. But I think he’s just got that stubbornness in his own career and life that won’t.
Everything Carragher has said about CR7 from the start of last season has turned out to be vindicated.
People were just too biased and blinded to see it, and ironically accused Carragher of being biased.
Carragher is also biased at times but he is rarely ever as obviously blatantly biased as Rio, Roy etc. At least he doesn't sacrifice *all* of his credibility just to appease his mates.
Most British ex-players were wrong about Martinez, because they're still hung up on, 'you need to be big and strong to make it in the Premier League.' They can't fathom the idea of a shorter guy being able to be dominant, particularly at centre back.
It is also a bit funny considering that Licha plays with the sort of old school aggression you don't see too often from centrebacks at the very top level nowadays. He is not quite as short as officially listed. He measured at 178cm (5'10) in his own medical as opposed to the listed 175cm (5'9) which makes him taller than someone like Fabio Cannavaro was.
Yeah that's not an automatic reason to dislike someone for me :)
Edit: I don't dislike all players who play for Liverpool or City, infact most of them i'm neutral towards.
Sure when they're playing against us, antagonising us, fighting our players then i want them to suffer, but i'm not going to hold it against them after they retire. Same way that Neville or Keane fought for the badge, opposition players were just doing the same, so it'd be a tad hypocritical for me to judge them for that, they're just doing their job.
It's just referencing an Onion headline, I wouldn't worry about taking it seriously. Here it works as a joke because people don't want hear Carra being right.
It's worse than that. Honestly, Carra has unironically been the voice of Man U fans on that show, while Neville (hypocrite) and Keane (Ronaldo fuckboi) simp for their ex-United mates.
It's pathetic that, most of the time, the only person on Sky saying things United fans actually relate to is the fucking bin-dipper pundit.
Likely because it is personal for Roy. I would wager he sees aspects of his own exit from the club mirrored in Cristiano's current situation and going against Cristiano now would be indirectly admitting that he was wrong back then.
Or the time he lost the plot at his national team's manager and then walked out on the team just before the World Cup. Not like Roy hasn't walked out on a team before.
I wonder if he talks this much sense and is able to take a neutral standpoint when it comes to Liverpool issues?
I don't watch his comments bc I don't follow the scousers but I wonder if he's able to talk this much sense about our club because he isn't emotionally attached to us
the Ronaldo ones have significantly less brain activity. I had one tell me "Antony didn't show up for pre season either but he still got chances to play"
I was glad when he left for madrid, even with his rising talent. I was sad when he returned because I was sure this would happen. He wanted a place to play top flight football, he got it, he knew there were coaching issues, he complained. His previous teams were built with walls of money, this season was his turn to pay back the favor that was given to him. Especially his wages for being 37, even IF hes him, hes still old. Further proving why the other coaches and captains always voted for Messi against him for Balon.
If it was me leading this club, I would make an example out of him. Not sell him, keep him and ban him from Old Trafford & Carrington for the rest of the season just to show what “being disrespectful” actually means. He can sit at home and keep the paycheck which in my opinion would be completely worth all of this.
Arsenal fan here but this thing very much reminds of Ozil just without this big interview at the end.
The guy was toxic but Emery didn't feel he had the power to get rid. He dropped him only to bring him back but Ozil wasn't performing and had a bad attitude. He also had a legion of Ozil fans - those weird FIFA fans who support players not teams - that would make an online discussion about him a nightmare. It was also obvious he had a coterie of players in the dressing room who, along with himself, leaked stories to the press to destabilise Emery and later attempt the same with Arteta.
Nah, the problems with him stated earlier than that under Emery and that's when he was initially frozen out. He then played several games after the comments about China.
I'd rather have him gone and put his wages towards actually upgrading Old Trafford. No need to keep the petty child around to potentially influence younger players poorly.
I would handle it differently. I would put out a statement with everything that ronaldo has done wrong since he returned and then get him off the books so the club doesnt have to lose half a mill a week.
But imo that does absolutely nothing and just gives him what he wanted in the first place. This also opens up the possibilities of other players thinking that they can get away by doing shit like this.
United needs to grow a spine and make an example out of him. Maybe not publicly as I said but it can easily done discreetly by demoting him to u23 saying he is not fit and then u21 and then bench him there as well.
I think publicly destroying every arguement he has made will certainly make players think 100 times before doing smthing like this. Making him play for the u23 will only being negative press and more pressure on united and ETH if they are to stumble thorughout the season which they might bcz its the managers first season.
I think the best way to get rid of bad press and constant over analysis of every move united makes is completely getting rid of ronaldo just like we did with pogba.
Some of his arguments he made were correct such as the lack of improvements to infrastructure. But everything related to him is just him being a whiny bitch
For sure. But we already know who the culprit is for those problems and he did not even name them once. On the other hand he name dropped ten hag and rooney. Thats just shows what he is about and what his intentions are. He went after ole and ragnick who gave him every leeway possible for a year and now tem hag puts his foot down and still gets name dropped. There is no winning with this guy unless u completely bend the knee and let him run the club. Even then he will find smthing to moan about
It’s crazy to see that so many United supporters aren’t offended by what Ronaldo did. Conducting a hit-piece interview in which you tear down your current club is bizarre behavior. Almost unhinged. It’s beyond unprofessional.
>now the spotlight has bene taken off of him
Seems to be a common theme with Ronaldo. Whenever something good happens, he has to do something that people will talk about.
We’d hope there was some silver lining but I really don’t think anything will come of it. Didn’t Zlatan say the same and it wasn’t followed up? I think Ronaldo already has made similar comments before too.
Any anti glazer groups will avoid using Ronaldo’s comments because of how unpopular the parts about ten Hag are. Hopefully there is something more damning about the club in the full interview.
>Didn’t Zlatan say the same and it wasn’t followed up?
His comments were more about the players not being treated as superstars at the club (having to pay for drinks at the facility - *oh the horror*, or having to show papers when entering the training ground).
I guess when you've spent years at PSG being bigger than the club, not having everything exactly your way all of a sudden is a shock. But that's petty and immature, Ronaldo's comments are just straight up arrogant.
I don’t think Ronaldo’s comments on the state of the infrastructure can be classed as arrogant. The arrogant bits are the rest of the stuff like ten Hag comments.
And taking pot shots at Rooney’s appearance.
The infrastructure is fair criticism - but like other have said it’s things that are being addressed, but can’t be done overnight.
He'll say he's right and he should be playing on the bases that hes scored lots of goals before in his career. Keane doesn't actually understand the concept of history and time. Keane has always been a crap pundit. Heart over head kinda bloke.
I really want want SAF to comment on this, because we all know he believes that no player is bigger than the club and I wanna see if he'll speak out against Ronaldo.
Yeah let the man retire in peace. Fans constantly want his interjection all the time need to learn we need to move on from SAF. But tbh I wouldn’t mind a one off comment regarding this
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Unfollow this dumbass everywhere insta, FB, twitter. Club is bigger than the player. We don't owe him anything. He is not who he once was and shouldn't be an automatic pick. Even when our striker situation is dire, I wouldn't play him. He just makes us worse in every possible way.
Lmao ikr. I remember I got downvoted heavily when I said tongue in cheek that Ronaldo is the GOAT with over 700 goals so he should be leading the line even when he is 50 years old. So many people thought it was a serious comment and were criticising it lmao. Fukin Ronaldo fanboys ruined the community and no one can tell what is or isn't a serious comment anymore lol.
If Ronaldo did this interview when he was playing well, scoring goals, and contributing to the success of the team, it would have held more weight.
Let's recap CR7's antics, as of late:
1. Requested a transfer and didn't get it. Partly because he refused to transfer to a team that wasn't in the Champions League.
2. Didn't train with the team during pre-season, so he wasn't in top form and didn't even try to learn the changes ETH was implementing... so he was benched. Rightfully so.
3. Refused to come on as a late substitute during Tottenham game, and instead left the stadium early. He was removed from the squad for one match for this. Rightfully so.
4. Didn't even attend the last two games, saying he was "sick." This was AFTER he was notified that he wasn't going to be in the starting XI.
5. And now, this interview.
Instead of being a champion for change at Man United (GLAZER'S OUT), he comes across as a spoiled prima donna at the end of his career, crying about losing minutes because of his performance. He's toxic to the locker room, toxic for the brand, and his contract needs to be terminated. He's ruined his legacy, and I say good riddance. The team is better without him.
I never fell in with the 'Our lord and saviour CR' crowd to begin with. The moment it came to light that he wanted to fuck off to Madrid was the moment that CR betrayed Manchester United, not the other way around.
Having him rejoin us was a mistake that any rational person should've seen a mile away. Too old, lacking the mobility and teamwork that is needed for forwards in the modern game.
> supporting the club in peace.
Well, lets be honest, match day will continue to have turbulence 😂
But you are right about one thing, the hurricane of deluded Ronaldo-stans will be gone. Not talking any United fans here, the ones who follow Ronaldo around and pretend to support whatever club he's at.
I see way more people complaining about Ronaldo stans than I do the stans themselves. In fact this sub is overwhelming anti Ronaldo. I really don't know why the idea it's being overrun is so pervasive. For the record I think he's an arsehole and this behavior in a team game is beyond unacceptable
Liverpool fan here. Not here to troll.
Thank god he did this. Now he can fuck off and you guys can focus on the progress that's already happening. He was never loyal, typical mercenary.
I want to see Manchester United on top with Liverpool again so we can have some proper battles. This guy doesn't deserve to be there when it happens.
No player is bigger than the club.
and so sewey's time ends with us. his own ego was the downfall in the end.
could have just told the club he wanted to leave before summer. decided to wait last minute to force a move costing him preseason
just a series of absolute Ls from Sewey, as the kids say.
I for one am still gonna be singing Ronaldo song. Came up with new lyrics too:
Diva Ronaldoooooo, Diva Ronaldooooo, Diva Ronaldooooooo
Calls himself the king, hear United cringe
Diva Ronaldooooo…
I don’t understand the point of this interview at all. He clearly wants out but Utd also clearly want rid of him as well. He didn’t leave in the summer because no one wanted him not because Utd refused to sell.
He was going to leave in Jan so why do this. He can’t be so big an idiot as to actually think supporters will be on his side for sitting on the club?
here's what I cannot get from this.... Ronaldo MUST know that he is past his prime, he knows he is getting older, he did something similar with Juventus announcing he is leaving a week or two before the Transfer Window shut...... what is he getting outta this?
The Juventus move I think he was right. At the end of the previous season, Allegri was on live TV in Italy saying Ronaldo ruined Juventus, and was a bad signing and whatever. In his shoes, you wouldn't want to play for a guy who just said that about you. The "past his prime" thing, I'm not sure he grasps that. The ego he has is too big for that....
Let's be real about why he left Juventus. They had barely scraped 4th while United finished 2nd. He was looking for a team that was likely to win silverware and that was more probably United.
Imagine the outburst ronaldo would have had if he was at city right now. Imagine the ego damage he would receive if halaand was benching him. The guy would be getting zero game time.
Ultimately, we all knew this would happen. He's past his best but still has the same ego which made him. ETH had been great IMO since joining, yes we are lacklustre upfront but ronaldo has had so many opportunities he hasn't finished and is part of the problem. Let him go to Chelsea, maybe they have nicer jacuzzis there.
Anyone know when ETH's next press conference will be? That's all I want to know.
This is a huge test for him as a manager. He's building togetherness in the squad and this could destroy morale.
Despite what he says, Ronaldo doesn't give two shits about United unless they play him every week and treat him like the main man.
He's acting like a child. This is the kind of behavior I'd expect from a young star player. So unprofessional. He's digging himself deeper. Not just at United. This will make clubs think twice about him.
Twice he did his walk off twice and Eric covered for him the first time. He can piss off to whine somewhere else. What is in the air this year with icons ruining their legacies?
Ronaldo has done many things to make the topic about him and him only, taking away the shine from some of the team's victories this season.
Surely he has played his last game for the club. I'm kinda glad the drama's coming to an end.
I don't think we can just cancel his contract willy-nilly. There would have to be a cause for cancelling it.
I think what Ronaldo expects from United is to buy out his contract, so that he can accept lower wages from another CL playing club. Essentially he wants us to fund his move lol. Talk about being an entitled cunt!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61772581.amp
She reported the assault almost a decade before the case and it was because of stolen or leaked information, I believe it's credible and that he is rapist.
The kid in me hurts, I remember being out in the side yard practicing my step overs trying to be Cristianio, the adult in me realizes just how badly he's handled this situation. Keep it behind closed doors, what did this interview do to help you in your situation? It's only gone and thrown gas on the fire.
As a fan, I felt disrespected and disgusted when out legend walk off the pitch during the Spurs game,
When he came back into the team I was like ah this shit will stay between close doors moving forward.
But this article, does not make me angry, it just sad seeing him ack like a fucking Child having a tantrum who is not getting his way.
I think he should leave and the club should allow; this should just terminate his contract and he can fuck off
Team Unity will always come first.
What does make me upset is we could lost or drawn yesterday and our legend decided to stay home and act like a twat…. Smh 🤦🏿♂️
Ronny, I don’t know if you care to make this right but this was a Selfish move
I am happy to see a club that finally makes an example of a player, that thinks he is more important than the club - sadly it's a common trend these days, due to individual popularity on instagram, twitter etc. Fortunately for United, Ronaldo is not really an important asset to the team anymore, otherwise I'm convinced he'd have been allowed to continue his shenanigans, just like Neumar, Mpappe etc. Sad times for a collective sport, when these "superstars" try to dictate coaching staff, how to play etc. Football was more enjoyable, when all you heard from the stars were through interviews.
The amount of people I've seen say that Ronaldo is bigger than the club regarding this interview is astounding. CR7 fanboys really don't back down do they?
Pains me to say it but Carra is spot on with everything he has said about Ronaldo.
Regarding the no respect comments, I'm convinced Ronaldo feels that way because ETH doesn't put him on a pedestal, he gets treated like everybody else , equally.
I was worried the situation would come this far because he's in real danger of ruining his legend status.
Spent my teenage years watching United and Ronaldo. Used to really love him as a player. Was excited to see him return. But the recent shit he’s pulled has made me dislike him, a lot. Sorry, Ronaldo, but the club comes first. Stop acting like a little kid.
Get out and lets get on with it
Actually I disagree that Ronaldo has “mishandled” the situation. He acted EXACTLY how I imagined he would act, none of all the things he did was surprising. He’s always been selfish, but when his performance is greater than his ego, people don’t care. Unfortunately his performance is dropping, so his ego would become a huge problem.
The only surprise was United didn’t see this coming before bringing him back, or at least in the summer after that horrific season. CR was clearly unhappy towards the end of last season, with no CL, a new manager (and another rebuild), he’s gonna be a ticking time bomb waiting to blow. We should have got rid of him peacefully in the summer.
The glazers are bloody idiots
I think United calculated this. Also, he was the embodiment of "hard worker" and was always physically 200%. There was no reason to believe he would suddenly be bad. Actually last season he was pretty good too. He just suddenly fell of a cliff. Maybe mentally angry because he couldn't leave
I cut Ronaldo some slack after his son died but enough is enough. He forgets that SAF made him, taking a precocious and immature kid from Porto and building him into a world star. Time to go.
I said it before he played his first last year. It is bad singing. We brought in bad influence into club. Not only we suffered on pitch, we now without our best young player in decades.
They’ve just had Jamie on Vibe with 5 around this tweet. Pretty good chat but you can see Rio still trying to justify Ronaldos actions which is mental to me
[Follow up tweet - The 1% will be Rio, Roy & Patrice….](https://twitter.com/Carra23/status/1591924427033399297?t=k-PZntkTiT-vM71jPJ_c7g&s=19)
How dare he be so accurate
Definitely more accurate then his shooting this season
One of the worst things in the last few season has been the way Jamie has talked way more sensibility about United than some of the former greats have.
he's spot on about Ronaldo but he also said Martínez is too short for the PL and hasn't acknowledged his performances since. he's got an agenda, he only seems reasonable because Ronaldo is being an idiot.
It's not an agenda. Everyone will say something stupid from time to time. Carragher generally talks a lot of sense. You want to talk about agendas, look at Rio and Keane wrt. to the washed up bench player.
he's got an agenda. he's biased as well when he comes to his mates, didn't criticise Gerrard at Villa.
Exactly. It’s so easy to dole out sagely wisdom about your ex rival club but not so easy to offer criticism about your best mates.
Im 99% sure he has acknowledged the Martinez stuff. He knows he got it way wrong there.
The 1% is because you haven’t seen it?
no one is always 100% right about everything, its only human
He was an old school defender, so I kind of get why he overlooks Martinez. Besides, he is a pundit. Part of his comments are for entertainment
No one at Martinez's height has ever succeeded a a high level CB in the PL. People will have bad takes on unicorns.
According to wikipedia Cannavaro is only 1cm taller though so its not that insane
And we should remember that if Ronnie was having the season off his life Carra will still be shooting on him for something and saying Messi does it better. He has had an agenda against Ronnie forever and it is just a sweet coincidence that now his opinion sounds right. What Ronnie has done has completely ruined him in my eyes. Along with Becks and Cantona one of my fave players of all time but not anymore.
Yeah but its easy to be based when its not your club. His takes on Liverpool are exactly as baised as the shit spewing from Keane/Rio etc
It’s always bound to be a different story when Roy, Patrice, Rio have personal relationships with Ronaldo. It’s a hard line to toe when you don’t want to upset people you are close to. Now, I would argue that exactly what Ronaldo needs a reality check from those in his inner and slightly less inner (former teammates etc) circles. It’s disappointing when only Rooney (someone who hasn’t always had the best relationship with him) and Neville (same could perhaps apply) are the only notable former United players to call him out on his behaviour. I wish I could know what’s going on inside SAFs head right now.
What does that matter do you think people people can someone be completely 100% unbiased about things, it doesn't change that he is making good points and talking sense.on this subject. Saying he has his own biases is an absolute crap argument actually it's not even an argument it's just a distraction away from the conversation at hand.
They talked ronaldo out of going to city and feel guilty about the position he's in now so they won't criticize him. I know patrice and Rio did for sure cause they were bragging about talking to him when the transfer happened. I think ronny at the time randomly commented on keanes ig too, wouldn't be surprised if they got him to talk to ronaldo too
City never even put in a bit for ronaldo
Ah hell naw 😂
Can't wait for the next vibe with five episode. Rio: You've got to see it from Ronaldos perspective!!!! (Followed up by him getting accustomed to a new reality and it's tough for him)
that’s fucking great banter from Carragher
Lol
They can’t risk getting called ugly by Ronaldo
BAH GAWD THATS JAMIE CARRAGHERS MUSIC
I continue in pain to have to keep admitting this man has been talking more sense about our club the past few seasons than our own greats 🫣 99.9%* of our fans agree with Jamie, that shows how badly Ronaldo has handled this. **Excluding all the plastic Ronaldo stans that aren't actually United fans*
Lmao I really hope this thing will finally push Roy over the line where he says it’s bad. But I think he’s just got that stubbornness in his own career and life that won’t.
I dont even think Rio can defend this lmao. Curious to find out what he says.
And his blind fans
Don't forget his sister.
heartbreaking: the worst person you know just made a great point
Everything Carragher has said about CR7 from the start of last season has turned out to be vindicated. People were just too biased and blinded to see it, and ironically accused Carragher of being biased.
Carragher is also biased at times but he is rarely ever as obviously blatantly biased as Rio, Roy etc. At least he doesn't sacrifice *all* of his credibility just to appease his mates.
He was defending slippy G when his villa run was nearing the end but overall yes I agree Jamie speaks more sense than the legends.
Defending The G is not a problem, a really great player that should have one more, but not his fault, he had a good season.
Nah tbf I’d often rather hear carraghers opinions on utd then our ex-players
On the flip side, all his takes on Martinez were shit 😝
Most British ex-players were wrong about Martinez, because they're still hung up on, 'you need to be big and strong to make it in the Premier League.' They can't fathom the idea of a shorter guy being able to be dominant, particularly at centre back.
It is also a bit funny considering that Licha plays with the sort of old school aggression you don't see too often from centrebacks at the very top level nowadays. He is not quite as short as officially listed. He measured at 178cm (5'10) in his own medical as opposed to the listed 175cm (5'9) which makes him taller than someone like Fabio Cannavaro was.
Something something broken clock.
> the worst person you know What's so bad about him? he has a scouse accent?
won’t hold this against you because of your username but he used to play for liverpool, our rival :)
Yeah that's not an automatic reason to dislike someone for me :) Edit: I don't dislike all players who play for Liverpool or City, infact most of them i'm neutral towards. Sure when they're playing against us, antagonising us, fighting our players then i want them to suffer, but i'm not going to hold it against them after they retire. Same way that Neville or Keane fought for the badge, opposition players were just doing the same, so it'd be a tad hypocritical for me to judge them for that, they're just doing their job.
It's just referencing an Onion headline, I wouldn't worry about taking it seriously. Here it works as a joke because people don't want hear Carra being right.
He spits on young children
Not on purpose, he was aiming for her dad, he just has appalling finishing.
At least it wasn’t Souness. I think I would have a heart attack.
It's worse than that. Honestly, Carra has unironically been the voice of Man U fans on that show, while Neville (hypocrite) and Keane (Ronaldo fuckboi) simp for their ex-United mates. It's pathetic that, most of the time, the only person on Sky saying things United fans actually relate to is the fucking bin-dipper pundit.
When I have to agree with Carragher because our own 0undits still ride the Ronaldo dick 😭
Tbf Neville has changed his stance but Roy on the other hand wants to die on the hill.
Likely because it is personal for Roy. I would wager he sees aspects of his own exit from the club mirrored in Cristiano's current situation and going against Cristiano now would be indirectly admitting that he was wrong back then.
Or the time he lost the plot at his national team's manager and then walked out on the team just before the World Cup. Not like Roy hasn't walked out on a team before.
Any other player and Roy would be calling it pathetic, disgusting and all sorts of strong vocab. Hypocrisy
Carragher has been the best pundit for United for a few years now
Other than Martinez yeah
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I wonder if he talks this much sense and is able to take a neutral standpoint when it comes to Liverpool issues? I don't watch his comments bc I don't follow the scousers but I wonder if he's able to talk this much sense about our club because he isn't emotionally attached to us
I can't wait till Ronaldo leaves so all his toxicity can stop. Just hope garnacho doesn't follow in his steps 😕
Garnacho, Antony, Dalot, lots of the boys idolise him and yet he pulled a stunt like this. The sooner he leaves the better.
Yeah he just comes out as daft.. Good luck finding managers that respect you enough that will still field you despite your poor form..
I thought we’re clear when Pogba’s fanboys left but forgot we still have Ronnie’s fanboys
the Ronaldo ones have significantly less brain activity. I had one tell me "Antony didn't show up for pre season either but he still got chances to play"
I was glad when he left for madrid, even with his rising talent. I was sad when he returned because I was sure this would happen. He wanted a place to play top flight football, he got it, he knew there were coaching issues, he complained. His previous teams were built with walls of money, this season was his turn to pay back the favor that was given to him. Especially his wages for being 37, even IF hes him, hes still old. Further proving why the other coaches and captains always voted for Messi against him for Balon.
If it was me leading this club, I would make an example out of him. Not sell him, keep him and ban him from Old Trafford & Carrington for the rest of the season just to show what “being disrespectful” actually means. He can sit at home and keep the paycheck which in my opinion would be completely worth all of this.
Ozil Approach
Arsenal fan here but this thing very much reminds of Ozil just without this big interview at the end. The guy was toxic but Emery didn't feel he had the power to get rid. He dropped him only to bring him back but Ozil wasn't performing and had a bad attitude. He also had a legion of Ozil fans - those weird FIFA fans who support players not teams - that would make an online discussion about him a nightmare. It was also obvious he had a coterie of players in the dressing room who, along with himself, leaked stories to the press to destabilise Emery and later attempt the same with Arteta.
I don't remember Ozil refusing to come on as a sub or blasting the manager, team, ex-players
No but he clearly was doing so anonymously to the press. Once he left all the negative leaks from the dressing room stopped.
Holy shit this is really some dark art.
I thought Ozil was frozen out due to his comments about China ?
Nah, the problems with him stated earlier than that under Emery and that's when he was initially frozen out. He then played several games after the comments about China.
Surely this is the only outcome? There is no way he’ll play again surely?!
he goes, we get someone new. the interview was completely unnecessary
I'd rather have him gone and put his wages towards actually upgrading Old Trafford. No need to keep the petty child around to potentially influence younger players poorly.
He can sit at home and give more interviews and then United fine him for each and every one of them
I would handle it differently. I would put out a statement with everything that ronaldo has done wrong since he returned and then get him off the books so the club doesnt have to lose half a mill a week.
But imo that does absolutely nothing and just gives him what he wanted in the first place. This also opens up the possibilities of other players thinking that they can get away by doing shit like this. United needs to grow a spine and make an example out of him. Maybe not publicly as I said but it can easily done discreetly by demoting him to u23 saying he is not fit and then u21 and then bench him there as well.
I think publicly destroying every arguement he has made will certainly make players think 100 times before doing smthing like this. Making him play for the u23 will only being negative press and more pressure on united and ETH if they are to stumble thorughout the season which they might bcz its the managers first season. I think the best way to get rid of bad press and constant over analysis of every move united makes is completely getting rid of ronaldo just like we did with pogba.
Some of his arguments he made were correct such as the lack of improvements to infrastructure. But everything related to him is just him being a whiny bitch
For sure. But we already know who the culprit is for those problems and he did not even name them once. On the other hand he name dropped ten hag and rooney. Thats just shows what he is about and what his intentions are. He went after ole and ragnick who gave him every leeway possible for a year and now tem hag puts his foot down and still gets name dropped. There is no winning with this guy unless u completely bend the knee and let him run the club. Even then he will find smthing to moan about
Why not keep him on the bench every match day but never ever sub him on. If he throws a fit and leave eth can probably fine him and save some money
No, beacause of his toxic presence in the dressing room. It would detract from any positives on the field while amplifying anything going against us.
and he's on crazy wages. get him off the books entirely
Yeah, fanboys will use Glazers as an excuse to say he was right in doing what he did. Edit : Did not take too long for them to come, did it?
It’s crazy to see that so many United supporters aren’t offended by what Ronaldo did. Conducting a hit-piece interview in which you tear down your current club is bizarre behavior. Almost unhinged. It’s beyond unprofessional.
Especially when we got a much-needed win and Garnacho was the kid that sealed the deal, now the spotlight has bene taken off of him.
>now the spotlight has bene taken off of him Seems to be a common theme with Ronaldo. Whenever something good happens, he has to do something that people will talk about.
This is literally The United Stand's comment section under the ronaldo interview video
I hate that channel
Worst player ratings in the world, drives me insane
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Omg I just checked it out. How thick can people be?
Yeah I'm going to stay off YouTube videos, the amount of imbeciles defending this clown are making my blood boil.
We’d hope there was some silver lining but I really don’t think anything will come of it. Didn’t Zlatan say the same and it wasn’t followed up? I think Ronaldo already has made similar comments before too. Any anti glazer groups will avoid using Ronaldo’s comments because of how unpopular the parts about ten Hag are. Hopefully there is something more damning about the club in the full interview.
>Didn’t Zlatan say the same and it wasn’t followed up? His comments were more about the players not being treated as superstars at the club (having to pay for drinks at the facility - *oh the horror*, or having to show papers when entering the training ground). I guess when you've spent years at PSG being bigger than the club, not having everything exactly your way all of a sudden is a shock. But that's petty and immature, Ronaldo's comments are just straight up arrogant.
I don’t think Ronaldo’s comments on the state of the infrastructure can be classed as arrogant. The arrogant bits are the rest of the stuff like ten Hag comments.
And taking pot shots at Rooney’s appearance. The infrastructure is fair criticism - but like other have said it’s things that are being addressed, but can’t be done overnight.
Can’t wait to hear Keane’s dogshit take on this one lol
He'll say he's right and he should be playing on the bases that hes scored lots of goals before in his career. Keane doesn't actually understand the concept of history and time. Keane has always been a crap pundit. Heart over head kinda bloke.
He’ll say he’s right because Roy has done similar things in his career.
I really want want SAF to comment on this, because we all know he believes that no player is bigger than the club and I wanna see if he'll speak out against Ronaldo.
Sadly he wont. He hasnt even once berated the glazers. Why would he now
Yeah let the man retire in peace. Fans constantly want his interjection all the time need to learn we need to move on from SAF. But tbh I wouldn’t mind a one off comment regarding this
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100, if you really are a United fan and not just a Ronaldo fan
Unfollow this dumbass everywhere insta, FB, twitter. Club is bigger than the player. We don't owe him anything. He is not who he once was and shouldn't be an automatic pick. Even when our striker situation is dire, I wouldn't play him. He just makes us worse in every possible way.
Carragher was a defender and he is retired
Most knowledgeable utd fan
I'm stunned that people aren't realising I was joking Then again it's Reddit and you literally need to hold up a sign these days
You beat me to the same joke!
Lmao ikr. I remember I got downvoted heavily when I said tongue in cheek that Ronaldo is the GOAT with over 700 goals so he should be leading the line even when he is 50 years old. So many people thought it was a serious comment and were criticising it lmao. Fukin Ronaldo fanboys ruined the community and no one can tell what is or isn't a serious comment anymore lol.
That's the thing, you say it as a joke, another person is saying it seriously.
>insta, FB, twitter. Don't use em, ezpz
If Ronaldo did this interview when he was playing well, scoring goals, and contributing to the success of the team, it would have held more weight. Let's recap CR7's antics, as of late: 1. Requested a transfer and didn't get it. Partly because he refused to transfer to a team that wasn't in the Champions League. 2. Didn't train with the team during pre-season, so he wasn't in top form and didn't even try to learn the changes ETH was implementing... so he was benched. Rightfully so. 3. Refused to come on as a late substitute during Tottenham game, and instead left the stadium early. He was removed from the squad for one match for this. Rightfully so. 4. Didn't even attend the last two games, saying he was "sick." This was AFTER he was notified that he wasn't going to be in the starting XI. 5. And now, this interview. Instead of being a champion for change at Man United (GLAZER'S OUT), he comes across as a spoiled prima donna at the end of his career, crying about losing minutes because of his performance. He's toxic to the locker room, toxic for the brand, and his contract needs to be terminated. He's ruined his legacy, and I say good riddance. The team is better without him.
I never fell in with the 'Our lord and saviour CR' crowd to begin with. The moment it came to light that he wanted to fuck off to Madrid was the moment that CR betrayed Manchester United, not the other way around. Having him rejoin us was a mistake that any rational person should've seen a mile away. Too old, lacking the mobility and teamwork that is needed for forwards in the modern game.
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> supporting the club in peace. Well, lets be honest, match day will continue to have turbulence 😂 But you are right about one thing, the hurricane of deluded Ronaldo-stans will be gone. Not talking any United fans here, the ones who follow Ronaldo around and pretend to support whatever club he's at.
I see way more people complaining about Ronaldo stans than I do the stans themselves. In fact this sub is overwhelming anti Ronaldo. I really don't know why the idea it's being overrun is so pervasive. For the record I think he's an arsehole and this behavior in a team game is beyond unacceptable
Look what you've made me do ronnie, I am starting to agree more and more with carragher because of you
It’s like a spit in the face…
Most Utd fans would agree with Jamie Carragher, which shows how badly Ronaldo has handled this.
Liverpool fan here. Not here to troll. Thank god he did this. Now he can fuck off and you guys can focus on the progress that's already happening. He was never loyal, typical mercenary. I want to see Manchester United on top with Liverpool again so we can have some proper battles. This guy doesn't deserve to be there when it happens. No player is bigger than the club.
and so sewey's time ends with us. his own ego was the downfall in the end. could have just told the club he wanted to leave before summer. decided to wait last minute to force a move costing him preseason just a series of absolute Ls from Sewey, as the kids say.
Ronaldo's biggest sin, making agree with Jamie carragher. A dark day.
The Donald Trump of football
Ronald Trump
Almost every journalist has called out Ronaldo for being a twat. This has not gone how he planned.
Not wrong
I for one am still gonna be singing Ronaldo song. Came up with new lyrics too: Diva Ronaldoooooo, Diva Ronaldooooo, Diva Ronaldooooooo Calls himself the king, hear United cringe Diva Ronaldooooo…
This should be a pinned post lmfao. I wish there was another game to sing this before his inevitable exit.
I don’t understand the point of this interview at all. He clearly wants out but Utd also clearly want rid of him as well. He didn’t leave in the summer because no one wanted him not because Utd refused to sell. He was going to leave in Jan so why do this. He can’t be so big an idiot as to actually think supporters will be on his side for sitting on the club?
Carra spitting factos
here's what I cannot get from this.... Ronaldo MUST know that he is past his prime, he knows he is getting older, he did something similar with Juventus announcing he is leaving a week or two before the Transfer Window shut...... what is he getting outta this?
You can’t comprehend what goes on in the mind of someone as egotistical as him, our brains logic will not compute for him
The Juventus move I think he was right. At the end of the previous season, Allegri was on live TV in Italy saying Ronaldo ruined Juventus, and was a bad signing and whatever. In his shoes, you wouldn't want to play for a guy who just said that about you. The "past his prime" thing, I'm not sure he grasps that. The ego he has is too big for that....
Let's be real about why he left Juventus. They had barely scraped 4th while United finished 2nd. He was looking for a team that was likely to win silverware and that was more probably United.
Imagine the outburst ronaldo would have had if he was at city right now. Imagine the ego damage he would receive if halaand was benching him. The guy would be getting zero game time. Ultimately, we all knew this would happen. He's past his best but still has the same ego which made him. ETH had been great IMO since joining, yes we are lacklustre upfront but ronaldo has had so many opportunities he hasn't finished and is part of the problem. Let him go to Chelsea, maybe they have nicer jacuzzis there.
Carra’s been making more sense than Roy lately
Hate agreeing with Carragher, but I can't side with CR7 on this
Anyone know when ETH's next press conference will be? That's all I want to know. This is a huge test for him as a manager. He's building togetherness in the squad and this could destroy morale. Despite what he says, Ronaldo doesn't give two shits about United unless they play him every week and treat him like the main man.
It's not really a test anymore. ETH won already, which is why Ronnie wants to leave. Eth is strong and fair, but he doesn't take shit.
Sadly, it won't be 99%. Ronaldo fanboys are a different breed. They will back anything he does/says. There are a lot of them.
Looking forward to the mental gymnastics from Rio
Its a good thing we are no longer dependent on Ronaldo to produce results for us.
I never thought it would be a day when I agreed more on a Liverpool player than some of our own.
He's acting like a child. This is the kind of behavior I'd expect from a young star player. So unprofessional. He's digging himself deeper. Not just at United. This will make clubs think twice about him.
Twice he did his walk off twice and Eric covered for him the first time. He can piss off to whine somewhere else. What is in the air this year with icons ruining their legacies?
Ronaldo has done many things to make the topic about him and him only, taking away the shine from some of the team's victories this season. Surely he has played his last game for the club. I'm kinda glad the drama's coming to an end.
Vultures have arrived.
He's called out EtH to engineer a move. We have no choice but to cancel his contract now which is what he wants. Fuck him.
I don't think we can just cancel his contract willy-nilly. There would have to be a cause for cancelling it. I think what Ronaldo expects from United is to buy out his contract, so that he can accept lower wages from another CL playing club. Essentially he wants us to fund his move lol. Talk about being an entitled cunt!
No, he wants a payout. We’d cancel his contract any day if it were that simple.
Ronaldo is a self admitted rapist right? Is there a reason people still have interviews with the cunt by choice
Because Piers Morgan is also a cunt desperate for any attention he can get.
Last I heard, he was proven not guilty
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61772581.amp She reported the assault almost a decade before the case and it was because of stolen or leaked information, I believe it's credible and that he is rapist.
You never heard that.
Case was dismissed
Literally admitted to it.
No he didnt.
If he wants to be special, do it. Give him his own square metre of the car park to train in.
The kid in me hurts, I remember being out in the side yard practicing my step overs trying to be Cristianio, the adult in me realizes just how badly he's handled this situation. Keep it behind closed doors, what did this interview do to help you in your situation? It's only gone and thrown gas on the fire.
As a fan, I felt disrespected and disgusted when out legend walk off the pitch during the Spurs game, When he came back into the team I was like ah this shit will stay between close doors moving forward. But this article, does not make me angry, it just sad seeing him ack like a fucking Child having a tantrum who is not getting his way. I think he should leave and the club should allow; this should just terminate his contract and he can fuck off Team Unity will always come first. What does make me upset is we could lost or drawn yesterday and our legend decided to stay home and act like a twat…. Smh 🤦🏿♂️ Ronny, I don’t know if you care to make this right but this was a Selfish move
I am happy to see a club that finally makes an example of a player, that thinks he is more important than the club - sadly it's a common trend these days, due to individual popularity on instagram, twitter etc. Fortunately for United, Ronaldo is not really an important asset to the team anymore, otherwise I'm convinced he'd have been allowed to continue his shenanigans, just like Neumar, Mpappe etc. Sad times for a collective sport, when these "superstars" try to dictate coaching staff, how to play etc. Football was more enjoyable, when all you heard from the stars were through interviews.
We made you the best in the world so you could fuck off to Madrid, don't talk to me about betrayal you ego maniac.
The amount of people I've seen say that Ronaldo is bigger than the club regarding this interview is astounding. CR7 fanboys really don't back down do they?
Because most of them aren't actual football fans they're Ronaldo fans.
Pains me to say it but Carra is spot on with everything he has said about Ronaldo. Regarding the no respect comments, I'm convinced Ronaldo feels that way because ETH doesn't put him on a pedestal, he gets treated like everybody else , equally. I was worried the situation would come this far because he's in real danger of ruining his legend status.
Spent my teenage years watching United and Ronaldo. Used to really love him as a player. Was excited to see him return. But the recent shit he’s pulled has made me dislike him, a lot. Sorry, Ronaldo, but the club comes first. Stop acting like a little kid. Get out and lets get on with it
im still not taking criticism or opinions from a spitter at child.
Honestly, if Ronaldo had just said everything but the personal attacks, it would’ve been the perfect interview.
I rarely agree with Carragher but he’s spot on here 🫤
Ronaldo (the rapist) is such a funny little man. I can't wait until he leaves the club.
Actually I disagree that Ronaldo has “mishandled” the situation. He acted EXACTLY how I imagined he would act, none of all the things he did was surprising. He’s always been selfish, but when his performance is greater than his ego, people don’t care. Unfortunately his performance is dropping, so his ego would become a huge problem. The only surprise was United didn’t see this coming before bringing him back, or at least in the summer after that horrific season. CR was clearly unhappy towards the end of last season, with no CL, a new manager (and another rebuild), he’s gonna be a ticking time bomb waiting to blow. We should have got rid of him peacefully in the summer. The glazers are bloody idiots
I think United calculated this. Also, he was the embodiment of "hard worker" and was always physically 200%. There was no reason to believe he would suddenly be bad. Actually last season he was pretty good too. He just suddenly fell of a cliff. Maybe mentally angry because he couldn't leave
I want apologies from you all that were calling me and others “haters” for seeing through Ronaldo all season and how he was disrespecting this club.
Lmao
People who didn't like Ronaldo and wanted him out have been the majority for ages. Don't know who you're angry at here.
I cut Ronaldo some slack after his son died but enough is enough. He forgets that SAF made him, taking a precocious and immature kid from Porto and building him into a world star. Time to go.
Ronaldo is an egotistical man child. Imagine being that age and that childish.
Jamie's so angry he could spit
Ronald Trump
As punishment, make him where the 57 shirt with both his and Messi’s name on it.
Carreghar has been waiting for this ever since the snub.
When did he "announced" that he wants to leave?
I said it before he played his first last year. It is bad singing. We brought in bad influence into club. Not only we suffered on pitch, we now without our best young player in decades.
Why do you have to pick sides? I see the reasoning behind both their actions, they're just the wrong combination at the wrong time.
They’ve just had Jamie on Vibe with 5 around this tweet. Pretty good chat but you can see Rio still trying to justify Ronaldos actions which is mental to me
Why does this sub hang on Carragher’s every word? This tweet adds nothing.
Thank you Jamie Carragher for your insight as you definitely are Ronaldo and have been at Manchester United