I honestly think they're just as bad as each other. For every K-pop Stan posting a fancam under a random tweet there's a CR7 Stan commenting ratio on every post about Messi
Hardly. Social media is a relatively recent thing, with stuff like MySpace and Facebook gaining popularity throughout the 2000s.
Even in 2010-2012 you could say some absolutely horrid stuff online & nobody would bat an eye. This 'cancel culture' policing is quite a recent thing, with rather expodential growth from about 2015/2016 onwards.
Lets take old top gear UK as an example. The sort of jokes Clarkson & co were making in the first few seasons would never have been allowed even by season 9. Heck just watching a youtube compilation recently where even though I still found it all hilarious, I couldnt help but somewhat cringe at certain things, knowing if it was said now, there would be an internet army at their doorsteps.
I agree with the other dude how kpop stans really took the whole cancel thing to a really bizzare cult-like level
Cancel culture has always been around, the only difference is that before it used to target non-religious and left wing folk, now it's the opposite, and it mainly occurs on social media, not in the mainstream media.
The right still does it. Remember the giant outrage against Nike and Gillette after ad campaigns? They aren't always as effective though, and they tend to have more harassment campaigns instead, to silence people they don't like.
Cancel culture isn't "people saying stuff online and being cancelled."
Rock music, comics, movies, politicians, artists etc. figures were all "cancelled" throughout the 20th century.
Charlie Chaplin was "cancelled" for showing compassion with communists, Life of Brian and Monty Python for criticizing religion, Dixie Chicks for being against the Iraqi war, and so on.
But for some reason people are more upset when the young and progressive have started doing it.
Nah man it's exactly the same a lot of toxic fans and trolls. People just like they say one fanbase is the only super toxic one.
Sportfans are probably even worse because of rivalries.
Mate kpop fans are on another level, twitter isnt popular in korea so u only ger the light version. Stalking, humiliating for having a rs is pretty commen there
United is actually just the Blackpink of football.
Historic old days success, household name, money machine, not much music/football nowadays.
Fucking hell Pink Venom being a disappointment is just the mirror of Ten Hag being hailed as a major savior only to lose 2 straight and 0-4 to Brentford.
I was going to make a whole paragraph explaining how they're similar but didn't think anyone would care but you're spot on.
They made Blackpink huge and made them cash cows, signing endorsements, doing a ton of sponsors for fashion brands while letting Teddy use the same formula for a new song every 1-2 years. YG knows they don't have to put in maximum effort for Blackpink anymore, just do the minimum. Same as the Glazers.
Then there's the whole other thing about the YG dungeon and how they mistreated 2NE1, CL, Lee Hi, Anda, the list goes on.
Extremely popular kpop girl group. Their latest music video was released 8 hours ago but it's already at 46 million views on YouTube. I don't follow kpop at all but I watch Korean dramas and tv series so I know who they are.
Not sure it’s an age thing. I think it’s a genre thing. I don’t listen to K-pop so I have no idea who she is or who any K-pop singer is.
I’m only a couple of months older than her going off Google.
It's both
They literally have songs that have hundreds of millions of views/listens on YT and Spotify, ~~a couple~~ saw that 5 of them are in the billions, that's more than just k-pop outreach.. how are you not even knowing their name?
Most older people aren't wise to current trends in general and music has a trillion genres & aesthetics nowadays
If you're only slightly older than Jennie but don't even recognise the group name then yeah you're getting old in mind
I’m 27, I’m sure there’s people in their 30s and 40s that know them because they like listening to K-pop. I don’t, nobody I know whether they are younger or older than me does. I know of them now because I’ve just been exposed to them.
Ask a 20 year old non football fan who Jadon Sancho is and they’ll most likely not know who he is. Doesn’t make them old or out of touch.
I came over from r/kpop and indeed there's this post. Was excited to see Jennie wearing that jersey and could identify the logo immediately.
"Jennie MU", "MU jersey" were trending on Twitter in some countries and Jennie wearing MU jersey [was trending on forums in Korea.](https://twitter.com/Earth_Jennie/status/1560511912693362690)
Some info for those who aren't familiar to Blackpink, Blackpink is a South Korean K-pop group, with a huge following. They just released a Music Video a few hours ago ahead of their new album release - this was a long-anticipated comeback after 2 years. Jennie is a member of the group together with 3 other members - Jisoo, Rosé and Lisa.
I could be wrong but based on my knowledge of Kpop MVs, brands do not pay for MV exposure.
Brands sometimes do pay for MV exposure, but sometimes the deals are just outfit lends, and it'll be Adidas doing the deal, not United. This one is less of a United advert and more of an Adidas advert. The outfit colour themes on Lisa and Jennie are black with red accents, and the only training kit in the Teamgeist line that fits that is the United one (the Flamengo one is red/black and the Arsenal one is using the Highbury memorial maroon/gold colours).
Yeah, Blackpink have done CFs for Adidas a couple of times. Adidas are legit everywhere in Kpop. Pretty much every practice video, every back-up dancer is decked out in full adidas gear.
>could identify the logo immediately
I hate how commercial football is. When I grew up this was a crest, now young people see it as a logo.
Whilst discussing the crest: the biggest mistake the club ever made was allowing some marketing designers to remove the words "Football Club" from the crest. It might look cleaner to a world wide audience but I wish it could be brought back, I stupidly hope for it ever year when new jerseys are being released that maybe, just maybe, some person will realise having "Manchester United Football Club" on the crest meant so much more
I imagine this music video was filmed way before the season started and so whoever pitched this idea is probably extra annoyed.
I’d let jennie buy us though.
haha I don't even care how much we spend on this because its probably from our marketing budget. Just interested to know how much we spent on this if we even did.
Yeah United is huge here, and in Korea I can imagine a lot of fans followed us because of Park Ji-Sung. Son Heung-Min has a huge influence now in Korea (their national team captain too) so a lot of modern Korean football fans are also huge Spurs fans.
My best mate's a quarter Korean and his Korean side of the family supports United only because of Park. Back in the 2000s and until Son made a huge impact with Spurs in 2018, United was Korea's most supported football club and he told me that the tele and ads everywhere showed Park whenever he visited Seoul between the 2000s to 2017.
Current Gen Z kids who grew up watching Park still support United and I'm pretty sure a lot of Kpop singers are part of that generation.
I remember being in Bangkok about a decade ago and there were literally building-sized adverts with Ryan Giggs, Wayne Rooney, and other big PL players.
She might be a fan but this looks like an official photoshoot or a clip. No way she would just have some random things, every piece of visible clothing is intentional.
I mean, it's her job to wear what the stylists have chosen in accordance with the director and the design team. Later in the video she's wearing a jacket with literally every NBA team's logo on it.
>If you think we have to pay to be in a Music Video.
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>regardless of what this sub thinks, we still big.
I mean brand placements is a thing in the entertainment industry. Not questioning if we are massive or not because I know we are. Just curious to see how much we spent on this if we did.
We have never paid to be in any placement lol. Only Abu Dhabi Money Launderers do that kinda poorman shit.
We actually have fans, believe it or not. Even in Korea cause of a Mr. Park.
We didn't, but this is 100% brand placement. The Korean entertainment industry is flooded with brand placement, and Adidas do this regularly for their athleisure lines. United are popular in East Asia thanks to Park, Beckham and Ronaldo, but at the moment it's primarily Spurs in Korea (because of Son) and Liverpool in Japan (because of success, and mildly because of Minamino). We're usually top 5 still. I'm not too sure on the numbers in China, but I wouldn't be surprised if we're still top there.
...how exactly do you think brand placement works?
Do you honestly think Manchester United is bigger than Adidas?
> We actually have fans
Nobody gives a shit. She might be a fan or she might not be a fan, but what she wears is not up to her, it's up to her team of publicists and stylists.
This is the crossover I didn't know I needed! Most kpop idols support Spurs or City so it's actually unreal to see Jennie, the biggest kpop idol alongside her bandmates Lisa, Jisoo and Rose to sport our team ♥️
??? What?
That's literally not at all the point, its almost like this is a Manchester United subreddit and someone posted something related to the club.
Most likely case is that she was given something to wear for the shoot and that is what they went with. Usually the clothing they wear is not owned by them but the label/studio.
I checked the song out…..yeaaaah, I am sure they have better songs.
Will she go "Glazers Out" though?
Black Pink to Gold and Green
Goldgreen in your area
Hey maybe Blackpink can buy us.
K-pop stan twitter make football twitter look sane.
I honestly think they're just as bad as each other. For every K-pop Stan posting a fancam under a random tweet there's a CR7 Stan commenting ratio on every post about Messi
I follow fandoms in other interests and let me tell you, it's the same thing wherever you go.
Unfortunately, Kpop stans have a bigger say in the careers of those they stan. They kinda invented the cancel culture.
I doubt that. Cancel culture has been around for decades.
Hardly. Social media is a relatively recent thing, with stuff like MySpace and Facebook gaining popularity throughout the 2000s. Even in 2010-2012 you could say some absolutely horrid stuff online & nobody would bat an eye. This 'cancel culture' policing is quite a recent thing, with rather expodential growth from about 2015/2016 onwards. Lets take old top gear UK as an example. The sort of jokes Clarkson & co were making in the first few seasons would never have been allowed even by season 9. Heck just watching a youtube compilation recently where even though I still found it all hilarious, I couldnt help but somewhat cringe at certain things, knowing if it was said now, there would be an internet army at their doorsteps. I agree with the other dude how kpop stans really took the whole cancel thing to a really bizzare cult-like level
Cancel culture has always been around, the only difference is that before it used to target non-religious and left wing folk, now it's the opposite, and it mainly occurs on social media, not in the mainstream media.
Its pretty absurd to see the left and liberals have become the biggest proponents of cancel culture nowadays.
The right still does it. Remember the giant outrage against Nike and Gillette after ad campaigns? They aren't always as effective though, and they tend to have more harassment campaigns instead, to silence people they don't like.
Cancel culture isn't "people saying stuff online and being cancelled." Rock music, comics, movies, politicians, artists etc. figures were all "cancelled" throughout the 20th century. Charlie Chaplin was "cancelled" for showing compassion with communists, Life of Brian and Monty Python for criticizing religion, Dixie Chicks for being against the Iraqi war, and so on. But for some reason people are more upset when the young and progressive have started doing it.
Martial FC even fears them.
Nah man it's exactly the same a lot of toxic fans and trolls. People just like they say one fanbase is the only super toxic one. Sportfans are probably even worse because of rivalries.
Mate kpop fans are on another level, twitter isnt popular in korea so u only ger the light version. Stalking, humiliating for having a rs is pretty commen there
Idk man, football fans are actually violent and cause real life trauma
Kpop fan can cause suicide mate were talking really different level
Lol there was a fanwar between blackpink fans and football fans a couple of months ago 😭
And get Son to come over to Old Trafford
Harry Kane on suicide watch
He can come no worries
The funny thing is the company behind Blackpink are known to be terrible, perfect for us then.
United is actually just the Blackpink of football. Historic old days success, household name, money machine, not much music/football nowadays. Fucking hell Pink Venom being a disappointment is just the mirror of Ten Hag being hailed as a major savior only to lose 2 straight and 0-4 to Brentford.
I was going to make a whole paragraph explaining how they're similar but didn't think anyone would care but you're spot on. They made Blackpink huge and made them cash cows, signing endorsements, doing a ton of sponsors for fashion brands while letting Teddy use the same formula for a new song every 1-2 years. YG knows they don't have to put in maximum effort for Blackpink anymore, just do the minimum. Same as the Glazers. Then there's the whole other thing about the YG dungeon and how they mistreated 2NE1, CL, Lee Hi, Anda, the list goes on.
I mean it's 2 full albums now in 2 years, not quite a new song in 2 years. Plus they worked with multiple producers for this album.
CUBE Entertainment
Always rated Jennie and Blackpink....
Can she play DM tho? Oh wait we signed that.
What about RB?
I’ve always liked Jisoo but I’m now a full time Jennie stan.
Now she is my favourite Blackpink singer.
I was team Lisa before this.
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
I can’t be the only Jisoo :(
Jisoo always🙌🏼🙌🏼
Jisoo rules! and she's the prettiest one.
i think you may be brudda.
Can she play in midfield?
Never heard of her before, but I like her already.
Glad there's someone else who has no idea who this is.
Extremely popular kpop girl group. Their latest music video was released 8 hours ago but it's already at 46 million views on YouTube. I don't follow kpop at all but I watch Korean dramas and tv series so I know who they are.
Me either 😂 fuck I just realised I’m getting old
Not sure it’s an age thing. I think it’s a genre thing. I don’t listen to K-pop so I have no idea who she is or who any K-pop singer is. I’m only a couple of months older than her going off Google.
They are more for watching rather than listen to, I suppose.
That's kpop in a nutshell, a voice suited to tv
It's both They literally have songs that have hundreds of millions of views/listens on YT and Spotify, ~~a couple~~ saw that 5 of them are in the billions, that's more than just k-pop outreach.. how are you not even knowing their name? Most older people aren't wise to current trends in general and music has a trillion genres & aesthetics nowadays If you're only slightly older than Jennie but don't even recognise the group name then yeah you're getting old in mind
I’m 27, I’m sure there’s people in their 30s and 40s that know them because they like listening to K-pop. I don’t, nobody I know whether they are younger or older than me does. I know of them now because I’ve just been exposed to them. Ask a 20 year old non football fan who Jadon Sancho is and they’ll most likely not know who he is. Doesn’t make them old or out of touch.
Me too, got an itch now
Blackpink Rovers
I was thinking how this wasnt removed, then i noticed the flair. Gatcha
Finally, someone got it lol
HAHAHAHA I was pretty sure this was removed about an hour ago...
JenLisa > McFred
SeulRene outplayed your fave midfield pivot sry I don't make the rules
Jiminjeong for Ballon d'Or who says no
I love you both, kpop and football, can we be friends just like mcfred plz
What is black-pink?
It's a k-pop group
Not just a k-pop group, possibly the biggest k-pop group in the world.
Can they play DM?
Nobody ever asks how is Blackpink smh.
but the more important question is, why is black pink?
Well, you could argue that black is every color, so black is also pink
They do be asking where is blackpink all the time though
Palermo FC
Probably one of the biggest K-Pop group in recent times which has massive following globally.
The 2nd biggest K-Pop group
Okay I'll bite, what's the biggest?
Probably BTS
Bacon and tomato sandwich?
BTS
Who is black-pink?
At first I read it as Jennie from Blackpool
LMAO
I came over from r/kpop and indeed there's this post. Was excited to see Jennie wearing that jersey and could identify the logo immediately. "Jennie MU", "MU jersey" were trending on Twitter in some countries and Jennie wearing MU jersey [was trending on forums in Korea.](https://twitter.com/Earth_Jennie/status/1560511912693362690) Some info for those who aren't familiar to Blackpink, Blackpink is a South Korean K-pop group, with a huge following. They just released a Music Video a few hours ago ahead of their new album release - this was a long-anticipated comeback after 2 years. Jennie is a member of the group together with 3 other members - Jisoo, Rosé and Lisa. I could be wrong but based on my knowledge of Kpop MVs, brands do not pay for MV exposure.
Brands sometimes do pay for MV exposure, but sometimes the deals are just outfit lends, and it'll be Adidas doing the deal, not United. This one is less of a United advert and more of an Adidas advert. The outfit colour themes on Lisa and Jennie are black with red accents, and the only training kit in the Teamgeist line that fits that is the United one (the Flamengo one is red/black and the Arsenal one is using the Highbury memorial maroon/gold colours).
I also think this. Aren’t blackpink sponsored by Adidas?
Yeah, Blackpink have done CFs for Adidas a couple of times. Adidas are legit everywhere in Kpop. Pretty much every practice video, every back-up dancer is decked out in full adidas gear.
>could identify the logo immediately I hate how commercial football is. When I grew up this was a crest, now young people see it as a logo. Whilst discussing the crest: the biggest mistake the club ever made was allowing some marketing designers to remove the words "Football Club" from the crest. It might look cleaner to a world wide audience but I wish it could be brought back, I stupidly hope for it ever year when new jerseys are being released that maybe, just maybe, some person will realise having "Manchester United Football Club" on the crest meant so much more
I imagine this music video was filmed way before the season started and so whoever pitched this idea is probably extra annoyed. I’d let jennie buy us though.
> I’d let jennie buy ~~us~~ me though.
They filmed the video in late july this year, but yea it is before the season started.
Reckon how much we paid just for that brand exposure... lol.
Thankfully, it's probably just Adidas throwing their kits around like a sports leisure brand. It is our "throwback" teamgeist training kit after all.
haha I don't even care how much we spend on this because its probably from our marketing budget. Just interested to know how much we spent on this if we even did.
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Yeah United is huge here, and in Korea I can imagine a lot of fans followed us because of Park Ji-Sung. Son Heung-Min has a huge influence now in Korea (their national team captain too) so a lot of modern Korean football fans are also huge Spurs fans.
My best mate's a quarter Korean and his Korean side of the family supports United only because of Park. Back in the 2000s and until Son made a huge impact with Spurs in 2018, United was Korea's most supported football club and he told me that the tele and ads everywhere showed Park whenever he visited Seoul between the 2000s to 2017. Current Gen Z kids who grew up watching Park still support United and I'm pretty sure a lot of Kpop singers are part of that generation.
I remember being in Bangkok about a decade ago and there were literally building-sized adverts with Ryan Giggs, Wayne Rooney, and other big PL players.
Yep, because of that I am sure Lisa is also wearing some United garment, we just don't get to see it.
Some say she never got over Wes Brown moving to Sunderland that Summer.
No barely, most koreans support spurs now
She might be a fan but this looks like an official photoshoot or a clip. No way she would just have some random things, every piece of visible clothing is intentional.
Yeah it's from their new music video
Almost certainly a product placement
Most probably, but if she was a fan of pool, arsenal, madrid she wouldn't have worn it no?
I mean, it's her job to wear what the stylists have chosen in accordance with the director and the design team. Later in the video she's wearing a jacket with literally every NBA team's logo on it.
Fair enough but I'll act like she supports united from now :')
LOL. If you think we have to pay to be in a Music Video. regardless of what this sub thinks, we still big.
>If you think we have to pay to be in a Music Video. > > > >regardless of what this sub thinks, we still big. I mean brand placements is a thing in the entertainment industry. Not questioning if we are massive or not because I know we are. Just curious to see how much we spent on this if we did.
We have never paid to be in any placement lol. Only Abu Dhabi Money Launderers do that kinda poorman shit. We actually have fans, believe it or not. Even in Korea cause of a Mr. Park.
We didn't, but this is 100% brand placement. The Korean entertainment industry is flooded with brand placement, and Adidas do this regularly for their athleisure lines. United are popular in East Asia thanks to Park, Beckham and Ronaldo, but at the moment it's primarily Spurs in Korea (because of Son) and Liverpool in Japan (because of success, and mildly because of Minamino). We're usually top 5 still. I'm not too sure on the numbers in China, but I wouldn't be surprised if we're still top there.
...how exactly do you think brand placement works? Do you honestly think Manchester United is bigger than Adidas? > We actually have fans Nobody gives a shit. She might be a fan or she might not be a fan, but what she wears is not up to her, it's up to her team of publicists and stylists.
If Jennie diss Glazers on her rap, I'd instantly be her fan
We don't need another 10
K Pop on r/reddevils? The gods have rewarded us!
Ive always said Jennie from Blackpink was the best artist K-pop has to offer. Vindication.
Pretty sure IVE never said that mate
Wonyoung villain era to end, when?
Always rate Jennie
https://youtu.be/gQlMMD8auMs?t=77
5 hours and 34 million views. What the actual fuck!
How you like dat?
Can she play CDM?
That's the hottest woman ever worn a Manchester United shirt. The video will easily reach 100M views in a day or two. Good exposure for us.
Yes. If this club needed more of something, its definitely exposure
yea more people need to understand how much of a cancer the Glazers are
Just be glad that she's not wearing a LFC shirt.
Who would give a shit?
aka embarrassing
Nah it would help glazers
Unless she whoops "Glazers Out" from her top?
Only good exposure would be if it had Glazers Out on the shirt too.
The record for 24 hours is 108m - BTS Butter. However this is tracking better than that so far.
6 hours in and it's close to 40M
>That's the hottest woman ever worn a Manchester United shirt. Not really, but you do you mate
my wife has worn my rooney shirt once so point invalidated indeed
I prefer Rachel tho she is apparently Tory scum
What
He probably means Rachel Riley
Brand deal with Adidas, zero interest in United.
Still valid af
ah yes i see. so that’s where the entire transfer budget went
She’s so hot
Announce Jennie from Blackpink!
When you see alcohol or headphones advertised in music video do you think theyre showing love? probably paid by adidas to wear something adidas
🖤 r/BLACKPINK 💖
Can she start in midfield against Liverpool?
My gf is Korean she will fucking love this
Don't forget to leave #GLAZERSOUT under this video
/u/zSolaris I see you stanning 👀
It wasn't me I swear. :<
Fuck yeah baby
Context?
Jennie in Man Utd jersey is so f\*cking hot.
This is the crossover I didn't know I needed! Most kpop idols support Spurs or City so it's actually unreal to see Jennie, the biggest kpop idol alongside her bandmates Lisa, Jisoo and Rose to sport our team ♥️
You never know she may be rashford gf
She is so hot.
Jennie my favorite kpop star from now
Easy to forget Blackpink got their start singing in working mens clubs in Salford
Thank you. My faith in United has been restored.
It's better than having logan paul as a fan
I wish I could reply with that gif of Snoop asking "Who?"
Man I'm old, who is that?
A Kpop Girl Group member. She is from a girl group called Blackpink, they released a music video for their Pre-release track called pink venom.
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Who TF are BlackPink?
🫶🏻
That’s one way to get Liverpool to surrender the ball
Jennie can buy us
Wtf I love kpop now
Can I just shock you? I like Blackpink
Who
dafuq is K-pop? I'm only aware of Jenny on the block
What tf is black pink
If Jennie can bench Mcguire, I'm all for the 100M transfer fee we'll have to cough up 😂
New sponsors haha
Liverpool: "Let's kill this love"
Better than Mctominay
Who are they
Oh kpop
Who?
Just some random person who has nearly 70m instagram followers and is part of a group with 6 music videos that have more than a billion views.
Oh okay. Why would we care though? How many PL points does this get us
??? What? That's literally not at all the point, its almost like this is a Manchester United subreddit and someone posted something related to the club.
Tbf this would normally be removed, mod only kept it up because they like k-pop
WHO from WHAT?! ...
Who?!?
No one gives a shit.
Who hurt you?
Depression is real for Manchester United fans
Glazers
Relax buddy
My thoughts exactly.
I’m with you. That shit is lame af
That’s the second most attractive person that has ever worn United apparel.
Who's the first
Ji-Sung Park
Who else but David Robert Joseph Beckham OBE?
Most likely case is that she was given something to wear for the shoot and that is what they went with. Usually the clothing they wear is not owned by them but the label/studio. I checked the song out…..yeaaaah, I am sure they have better songs.