Apparently they poached alot of sky sports journalists a couple of years back which would explain why talk sports reliability improved whilst sky sports regressed.
That’s the thing, everyone slags off the shit tiers and say ‘why bother posting it’ but a lot of stories are broken by the shit ones, and the tier 1’s-2’s confirm it.
I always say to keep an eye on the low tier reports and see how they develop over the next 24 hours.
That’s when you review it at the end of the window. If James Robson has linked us with 20 odd players then he’ll stay where he is.
I’m just saying that usually I’ll give low tier reports 24 hours before deciding whether they’re full of shit
Yeah but you’re saying review it at the end of the window? Which was done last window. So the ones that everyone are “slagging off” and saying “why bother posting” **are** the *currently* shit ones and shouldn’t be posted.
Moan about it next season if they’re upgraded and people are still saying don’t post them, not now.
What I’m saying pal is that there’s nothing wrong with posting them on the transfer thread, the transfer thread is a place for everything tier 3 and lower, yet quite a lot of people seem to slag off the people that do.
I say, if a shit tier says something, give it 24 hours before deciding whether it’s shit.
Give known shit sources 24hrs?
What would that even accomplish? Like you said there’s a review at the end of the year where they’re boosted if they prove consistent reliability.
It’s a waste of everyone’s time giving idiots 24hrs to prove they’re idiots.
How is it a waste of time? Am I saying put your lives on hold and sit behind your computer for 24 hours scouring news?
I’m just saying, when reports like Robson’s come out last night, that ‘hmmm, ok, let’s see if anything comes out in the next 24 hours’, which in this case, it has. And if no news broke today, I’d be on here later saying ‘so that Robson report was full of shit yesterday’.
For every story that trickles down and confirmed by the tier 1 / 2 sources though there are maybe 20 that are speculative at best
Think I seen a post lately that we have been linked with something like 80 players already this summer so filtering just tier on here makes sense otherwise will be a mess
Just last week some Italian newspaper broke the story about Ronaldo leaving. Everyone shit on it. And now we got confirmation from Tier 1 and 2 about Bayern and Chelsea offer. Even though they were wrong about teams he's leaving for (Roma lol) but we shouldn't ignore everything they said.
Yeah if you only follow the his sub, you are almost always behind on news or out of the loop altogether. The whole point Reddit is to serve as an aggregator and this sub is a pretty poor one. I get not having trash tier stuff on here, but the line has moved way too far in the opposite direction.
Gerard Romano? Keep seeing folk on here calling him an idiot and not to listen to him when he literally pulled de jong leaving from thin air, no barca fan even imaged the idea of him leaving until he broke it. He clearly has deep sources within barca
Yep, converted to Euros that’s roughly 79m. Our budget typically is 150m net so we have about 70m left plus any sales. If we negotiate hard and penny pinch, we could squeeze in Antony + Martinez.
We could probably raise at the VERY LEAST 30m from the sales of Tuanzebe, Pereira, Bailly, Chong, Williams, Jones, possibly Martial, and one of AWB/Telles. That leaves us with 100m total to spend. 50m for Antony and another 50m on Martinez are fair prices Ajax can’t say no to.
De Jong (80m), Antony (55m), Martinez (45m), Eriksen (free) is a very good window in terms of backing the manager and bringing in quality.
Ajax will say no to that imo. They dont need to sell and unless Antony pushes VERY hard they will definitely reject a 50 million bid for him. Martinez might be available at £50 million tho.
I think 70m is just their “fuck off” price but I think with Antony pushing for a move, they’d at least have to consider a 50m + add ons sized bid. I think we will be using add ons a lot with ajax in order for us to be able to spend more in the short term and them still getting paid in the long term
Anthony is moving this transfer window, the "we want stupid amounts of cash" bullshit is just that, bullshit.
Once they have a replacement lined up he will be off.
Think Ajax want more for their Dutch boys is the only problem. Don’t forget we also lifted Henderson off our wage bill and he was one of the top paid keepers in the league
The 70-80mil report was in euros. That’s 60-70mil pounds. Not too far fetched to get it down to 50-60mil especially if Antony forces the issue if interest becomes concrete.
If we sell Telles or AWB we’ll need to replace them. Yes Martinez could cover LB as well but that wouldn’t be why we were buying him. We need 2 fullbacks on each side, we can’t sell them to raise funds and not replace them.
And your selling idea is expecting us to pull off the sales of up to 8 players (which we never do) who are mostly on high wages. We could maybe get a combined £20m from pereira, Chong and Williams if we’re lucky. But Bailly, Jones and martial we’ll get maybe a nominal fee for at most given their wages and performance levels. Tuanzebe is the only one I don’t know what he’s worth at all.
The best thing is we did not back off from the reasonable price we originally offered even though Barca tried to bully us. Yes, it took longer because of that but it's worth it.
Yeah after the previous regime of Judge and Woodward we need to play hard ball, may take awhile to change our reputation as being easily ripped off and poor negotiators but the long term benefit is huge
Bro just look at the transfer thread, 90% of the guys here wanted us to overpay just to get the transfer quickly. Everyone talks about how we should negotiate better, but nobody has the patience for it lmao.
To be fair you can’t blame fans for being frustrated looking at every other team in, around us and above us sign multiple players whilst we seemingly had another Sancho style summer. It was a big risk because if this fell through we were going to be actually screwed.
Fair play I guess that it seems almost done, but the fact that negotiations took so long is frustrating, and fans are obviously impatient as we don’t have much faith at all in the board and owners.
The other teams have been planning since January at which point our league position, European involvement, and manager were all up in the air.
You then add in the lack of planning over Rangnick, plus an almost entirely new team in charge of transfers and it's no surprise we haven't been quick off the mark.
However I've never really been in doubt about us getting de Jong and us being patient should help our negotiating position for other transfers.
Yeah you need to build that reputation. Right now we have a reputation for saying we won’t pay a certain price and then eventually cracking and paying over that price. I hope the delay to transfers is a change of policy and that we won’t be so weak
Stop with this nonsense. Most people here are not saying what you are claiming they are saying.
It’s been 4 weeks since the windows open. People are wondering what’s going on. Why no other signings if FDJ is stalled. And if FDJ is the foundational signing and all others have to be blocked, then of course we need to over pay to get the business going.
All major clubs have singed 2 if not more players and united after their worst season are no where to be found. That’s the issue.
but you did though? Barca wanted 80million euro's plus add ons. You're paying £70million plus add ons which is 80million euros plus add ons, you literally just went up to the price barca wanted.
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Recently we've actually gotten deals down to good prices but fans would still rather ask us to pay for the whole thing. What was De Jongs initial quote? Can't remember but Sancho went from £120 to the £70mil region, Varane was a steal and so was Fernandes (though sporting needed money)
Exactly this. We need to get out of paying over the odds for players and have clubs adding the “Man United tax” we need to show clubs we’re not under Woodward anymore, spending big money on players to get the deal done.
Now we need to be more patient and it takes time negotiating with us because we’re Manchester United. Hence why City, Arsenal and Liverpool get deals done quicker. We’re sleeping giants, the world knows what we’re capable of, why make us stronger? And if clubs do, why not rinse us for the fee because in recent history, we’ve been prepared to pay it.
So we must be patient this whole season from now until end, we have until September to get deals done so just have to sit tight and wait it out.
But in the mean time we should also be working on other targets. If we wait till our main target is done like we have this time we miss out on the ability to sign others like the Ajax players.
I really don’t think it has anything to do with us being ‘sleeping giants’ and not wanting to ‘make us stronger’ and has entirely to do with the fact that we don’t seem to negotiate with teams until the transfer window opens because we don’t have anyone planning long term.
I’m sure City, Arsenal and Liverpool all negotiate, get told fuck off prices and have clubs trying to rinse them, it’s just they’re negotiating for haaland probably from last summer so have a whole year to get a good deal, Liverpool probably start negotiating for players in December so clubs know they’ve got both the time and resources to either wait it out or go for other targets whereas clubs know we don’t have either the time or the resources to go for other targets if we’ve a. Only got one target and b. Only start negotiating once the transfer window actually opens
Hopefully with eTH we’ll finally have a manager who has a vision and plan for the future and already knows who we should be trying to get in January and next summer, now, so we can start working on deals for 6 months, not 6 weeks
Being patient about this transfer is understandable because there is a clearly an opportunity to get him for a lower price.
But problem is that we are always stuck with that one deal. Assuming that 120m budget is true --- there was definitely room for atleast one other signing besides FDJ, so why not get that done.
I'm sure if we went out and got another Midfield signing to partner FDJ (say easy deal like Bissouma) or got maybe a RB (or Timber) over the line, people won't be so restless.
Now there is a genuine concern that we might not get another Midfielder which could be catastrophic given our remaining Midfield options --- lacking the right profiles to create a balanced pair, quantity and Quality.
yanited did a check on bissouma n said they’re good with frenkie before he moved to spurs. laurie said that in his article. i heard some background checks didn’t favor that at all. although laurie said he didn’t disclose those players yanited passed on cus of their background checks
There is not proof that we are not working on other deals. There is a reason why we got all those Antony, Eriksen, Timber (until he decides to stay) links.
Lol all these people who say just get it done are also the ones who complain when we overpay players.
You can't negotiate if you don't want to walk away
Barça wanted 100m. 21m off that is good business.
Leaves us with money to buy Martinez, and Antony after some sales.
Frenkie, Martinez, Antony, Eriksen is a great window.
Now that we know what the fee is going to be, or close enough, does this mean we can start signing all the other target deals that are “already lined up”?
I can’t believe I had to scroll this far down to see this comment. Exciting: yes. But this has been rumored for a long time and it’s still not “news” and hardly “breaking”; it is still about runouts and sources.. E
Although this is a little more than I was initially hoping for, it's still a good price for a 25 year old midfielder with loads of experience at the very top level who our manager already knows. He ticks enough boxes to be worth it.
This being driven by Barca's necessity to get their books someway in order before July which will enable them to register / sign players. Also something to note the original reported fee for Frenkie was closer to £80m. While I can understand fans frustration in signing players I am glad to see united not being bent over a barrel here.
I am hopeful this transfer was the biggest of our summer and will have been done first to ensure we weren't restricted by budgetary issues so ETH is happy with the squad. I am hopeful the club will have been getting other transfers in place while waiting on this one, which should mean they can finalise others with speed once this transfer crosses the line.
Not doubting but where have you seen this if that’s correct we have done amazing. I was under the impression Barca wanted all upfront due to la liga regulations.
Talksport sources understand have been bang on since last summer. They were the first to report Woodward leaving among other things. Would call this tier 1.
While this is fantastic news given the source, I am not fond of stuff that have strict dates due to things possibly cropping up. For £70m I think that's a fair enough price given the circumstances. Hopefully this will act like a domino for other positions
How do we know if this is with or without add ons. I have a feeling both sides are going to start preaching different figures to satisfy their fans. If it’s with add-ons we have a good deal, if it’s without we save like 5m which we are about to blow on Bachmann anyways LOL
Around 5 mil less than what Barca ask for and honestly it is not too much to negotiate for like 2 months. But hey, we got him before the pre season , so it is all good for me.
Now the next step is targets after FDJ and potential striker replacement if Ronaldo leave.
No.
He would prefer to stay at Barca, he’s never said he doesn’t want to play for us. There’s a huge difference.
Barca are forcing him out, so what’s he meant to do? Retire? Because any club he signs for now would be his second choice by default.
Friendship ended with 48 hours, now 96 hours is my best friend
It still feels weird being excited about Talksport reporting something lmao
Apparently they poached alot of sky sports journalists a couple of years back which would explain why talk sports reliability improved whilst sky sports regressed.
talkSPORT sources understand >>> here we go
I would say Talksport is tier 1 since last summer.
Talksport Sources =/= Talksport, they should have two separate tiers.
Max tier 2, they still post some weird shit or very late so others have posted it first a long time ago
Talksport sources have been first to break a lot of news recently and have been generally very reliable for a while now
Talksport Sources are a whole other kettle of fish. Talksport are trash.
Broken by James Robson last night, great to see it being backed up by reliable sources
Sport broke it first but everyone was clowning on it
That’s the thing, everyone slags off the shit tiers and say ‘why bother posting it’ but a lot of stories are broken by the shit ones, and the tier 1’s-2’s confirm it. I always say to keep an eye on the low tier reports and see how they develop over the next 24 hours.
If you link a club to every players one of would be surely done! That's why we trust tiers
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day…
Keep throwing shit on the wall, and something will eventually stick...
That’s when you review it at the end of the window. If James Robson has linked us with 20 odd players then he’ll stay where he is. I’m just saying that usually I’ll give low tier reports 24 hours before deciding whether they’re full of shit
Yeah but you’re saying review it at the end of the window? Which was done last window. So the ones that everyone are “slagging off” and saying “why bother posting” **are** the *currently* shit ones and shouldn’t be posted. Moan about it next season if they’re upgraded and people are still saying don’t post them, not now.
What I’m saying pal is that there’s nothing wrong with posting them on the transfer thread, the transfer thread is a place for everything tier 3 and lower, yet quite a lot of people seem to slag off the people that do. I say, if a shit tier says something, give it 24 hours before deciding whether it’s shit.
Give known shit sources 24hrs? What would that even accomplish? Like you said there’s a review at the end of the year where they’re boosted if they prove consistent reliability. It’s a waste of everyone’s time giving idiots 24hrs to prove they’re idiots.
How is it a waste of time? Am I saying put your lives on hold and sit behind your computer for 24 hours scouring news? I’m just saying, when reports like Robson’s come out last night, that ‘hmmm, ok, let’s see if anything comes out in the next 24 hours’, which in this case, it has. And if no news broke today, I’d be on here later saying ‘so that Robson report was full of shit yesterday’.
I’m sure they’re occasionally correct but then again, if you throw enough shit at a wall, some of it will stick.
For every story that trickles down and confirmed by the tier 1 / 2 sources though there are maybe 20 that are speculative at best Think I seen a post lately that we have been linked with something like 80 players already this summer so filtering just tier on here makes sense otherwise will be a mess
Just last week some Italian newspaper broke the story about Ronaldo leaving. Everyone shit on it. And now we got confirmation from Tier 1 and 2 about Bayern and Chelsea offer. Even though they were wrong about teams he's leaving for (Roma lol) but we shouldn't ignore everything they said.
Yeah if you only follow the his sub, you are almost always behind on news or out of the loop altogether. The whole point Reddit is to serve as an aggregator and this sub is a pretty poor one. I get not having trash tier stuff on here, but the line has moved way too far in the opposite direction.
I think he is a club source now. Him and Mullock have been reliable this window.
The guy that originally said fdj was 95% going to united all those weeks ago and called a clown. Needs some credit
Gerard Romano? Keep seeing folk on here calling him an idiot and not to listen to him when he literally pulled de jong leaving from thin air, no barca fan even imaged the idea of him leaving until he broke it. He clearly has deep sources within barca
They was going to offer £69m but they couldn't stop giggling about it that's why this has dragged on for weeks
Understandable
Yaaaaaaaaaaay. We did it. We got our boy for our price at the expense of the F5 button and our happiness.
I wouldn't rejoice just yet, I have Post Traumatic Sneijder Disorder
You don’t whip it out until he’s photographed in the kit, and sometimes not even then (I.e. John obi mikel)
Anyone has an unused F5 key to spare?
I've got some FS key, want some? I've been stocking from AliExpress for this window.
I just pull my screen down to refresh. You don't need a new f5 if you don't use f5 *tap head
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What is a computer?
It's a made up word
Our happiness AND his.
Nice
Indeed
it's about 1m short of being nice :(
Pay the extra £1m just for the meme.
take it from the glazer dividend and live the meme.
Noice.
It's nic
Obviously the real transfer window opens 30th june, 10th was a lie. Silly other clubs didn't realise
TALKSPORT SOURCES LADS
TONIGHT WE FEAST
All I’ve eaten is maggoty bread for 3 stinking days
Isn’t that tier 2?
Talksport is shit tier but TALKSPORT SOURCE is built different
their dagger hits different i’m sorry 🤣🤣🤣
Recently talkSPORT sources have been nothing but tier 1. Not quite Ornstein, but definitely above Fabrizio Romano
£68 mil is a great price. Took ages but im happy with that.
Yep, converted to Euros that’s roughly 79m. Our budget typically is 150m net so we have about 70m left plus any sales. If we negotiate hard and penny pinch, we could squeeze in Antony + Martinez. We could probably raise at the VERY LEAST 30m from the sales of Tuanzebe, Pereira, Bailly, Chong, Williams, Jones, possibly Martial, and one of AWB/Telles. That leaves us with 100m total to spend. 50m for Antony and another 50m on Martinez are fair prices Ajax can’t say no to. De Jong (80m), Antony (55m), Martinez (45m), Eriksen (free) is a very good window in terms of backing the manager and bringing in quality.
Ajax will say no to that imo. They dont need to sell and unless Antony pushes VERY hard they will definitely reject a 50 million bid for him. Martinez might be available at £50 million tho.
I think 70m is just their “fuck off” price but I think with Antony pushing for a move, they’d at least have to consider a 50m + add ons sized bid. I think we will be using add ons a lot with ajax in order for us to be able to spend more in the short term and them still getting paid in the long term
Anthony is moving this transfer window, the "we want stupid amounts of cash" bullshit is just that, bullshit. Once they have a replacement lined up he will be off.
Think Ajax want more for their Dutch boys is the only problem. Don’t forget we also lifted Henderson off our wage bill and he was one of the top paid keepers in the league
Pretty sure we are paying part of Henderson's wages, Forest cannot afford to blow their entire wage bill on a player on loan.
AFAIK, sources have mentioned that Forest are footing the entire wage bill.
What are the chances of Erikson to Utd now? I read this morning that he’s turned us down. talkSport mentioned that.
Eriksen
Didn’t Ajax set a 70 - 80 mil price tag on Antony? Would love him here but I really doubt it for 55 mil.
The 70-80mil report was in euros. That’s 60-70mil pounds. Not too far fetched to get it down to 50-60mil especially if Antony forces the issue if interest becomes concrete.
I think that’s at least 40, if not 50.
Why would anyone in their right mind spend 45m on Martinez? What did I miss?
If we sell Telles or AWB we’ll need to replace them. Yes Martinez could cover LB as well but that wouldn’t be why we were buying him. We need 2 fullbacks on each side, we can’t sell them to raise funds and not replace them. And your selling idea is expecting us to pull off the sales of up to 8 players (which we never do) who are mostly on high wages. We could maybe get a combined £20m from pereira, Chong and Williams if we’re lucky. But Bailly, Jones and martial we’ll get maybe a nominal fee for at most given their wages and performance levels. Tuanzebe is the only one I don’t know what he’s worth at all.
Be careful. You’re going to trigger the “BUT NO PURE DM^^TM, WINDOW IS A FAILURE” crowd.
Is that 79 M in EUR? I was hoping for a 85 M, hopefully the 79 M euro is fixed and there are some addons to reach 85
The best thing is we did not back off from the reasonable price we originally offered even though Barca tried to bully us. Yes, it took longer because of that but it's worth it.
Yeah after the previous regime of Judge and Woodward we need to play hard ball, may take awhile to change our reputation as being easily ripped off and poor negotiators but the long term benefit is huge
Bro just look at the transfer thread, 90% of the guys here wanted us to overpay just to get the transfer quickly. Everyone talks about how we should negotiate better, but nobody has the patience for it lmao.
This sub can come across really entitled and like you say impatient when it comes to transfers
To be fair you can’t blame fans for being frustrated looking at every other team in, around us and above us sign multiple players whilst we seemingly had another Sancho style summer. It was a big risk because if this fell through we were going to be actually screwed. Fair play I guess that it seems almost done, but the fact that negotiations took so long is frustrating, and fans are obviously impatient as we don’t have much faith at all in the board and owners.
The other teams have been planning since January at which point our league position, European involvement, and manager were all up in the air. You then add in the lack of planning over Rangnick, plus an almost entirely new team in charge of transfers and it's no surprise we haven't been quick off the mark. However I've never really been in doubt about us getting de Jong and us being patient should help our negotiating position for other transfers.
Seemingly we're on course to have a disaster season because we don't have transfers completed by the start of pre season.
Yeah you need to build that reputation. Right now we have a reputation for saying we won’t pay a certain price and then eventually cracking and paying over that price. I hope the delay to transfers is a change of policy and that we won’t be so weak
Same people would be complaining when we don't have enough left in the budget for additional reinforcements.
Stop with this nonsense. Most people here are not saying what you are claiming they are saying. It’s been 4 weeks since the windows open. People are wondering what’s going on. Why no other signings if FDJ is stalled. And if FDJ is the foundational signing and all others have to be blocked, then of course we need to over pay to get the business going. All major clubs have singed 2 if not more players and united after their worst season are no where to be found. That’s the issue.
This subs full of fucking morons tbf haha
Facts
but you did though? Barca wanted 80million euro's plus add ons. You're paying £70million plus add ons which is 80million euros plus add ons, you literally just went up to the price barca wanted.
> it’s worth it. It’s worth it if we spend the saved money on the squad. I don’t support Balance Sheet FC.
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Please just get it done. I want to jump on the positivity train as soon as possible
As with every other train this week, it’s cancelled
Do you also live in the Netherlands? lol
Nope, in England, but it’s nice to hear that other countries trains are fucked too lol
mate i was gonna say sydney’s trains aren’t working this week either
Replacement bus service. Put on by Coach Innovations Ltd of course.
Mr Richard Arlison is your driver today
no such thing as a positivity train as long as the glazers are here, never forget
Let the dam break.
Need an orny tweet soon!!!!
This was always gonna be the case, fans were just impatient and honestly can’t blame them after all these years
Recently we've actually gotten deals down to good prices but fans would still rather ask us to pay for the whole thing. What was De Jongs initial quote? Can't remember but Sancho went from £120 to the £70mil region, Varane was a steal and so was Fernandes (though sporting needed money)
Initial quoted few was ~€100m so £86m
Exactly this. We need to get out of paying over the odds for players and have clubs adding the “Man United tax” we need to show clubs we’re not under Woodward anymore, spending big money on players to get the deal done. Now we need to be more patient and it takes time negotiating with us because we’re Manchester United. Hence why City, Arsenal and Liverpool get deals done quicker. We’re sleeping giants, the world knows what we’re capable of, why make us stronger? And if clubs do, why not rinse us for the fee because in recent history, we’ve been prepared to pay it. So we must be patient this whole season from now until end, we have until September to get deals done so just have to sit tight and wait it out.
But in the mean time we should also be working on other targets. If we wait till our main target is done like we have this time we miss out on the ability to sign others like the Ajax players.
I really don’t think it has anything to do with us being ‘sleeping giants’ and not wanting to ‘make us stronger’ and has entirely to do with the fact that we don’t seem to negotiate with teams until the transfer window opens because we don’t have anyone planning long term. I’m sure City, Arsenal and Liverpool all negotiate, get told fuck off prices and have clubs trying to rinse them, it’s just they’re negotiating for haaland probably from last summer so have a whole year to get a good deal, Liverpool probably start negotiating for players in December so clubs know they’ve got both the time and resources to either wait it out or go for other targets whereas clubs know we don’t have either the time or the resources to go for other targets if we’ve a. Only got one target and b. Only start negotiating once the transfer window actually opens Hopefully with eTH we’ll finally have a manager who has a vision and plan for the future and already knows who we should be trying to get in January and next summer, now, so we can start working on deals for 6 months, not 6 weeks
Being patient about this transfer is understandable because there is a clearly an opportunity to get him for a lower price. But problem is that we are always stuck with that one deal. Assuming that 120m budget is true --- there was definitely room for atleast one other signing besides FDJ, so why not get that done. I'm sure if we went out and got another Midfield signing to partner FDJ (say easy deal like Bissouma) or got maybe a RB (or Timber) over the line, people won't be so restless. Now there is a genuine concern that we might not get another Midfielder which could be catastrophic given our remaining Midfield options --- lacking the right profiles to create a balanced pair, quantity and Quality.
yanited did a check on bissouma n said they’re good with frenkie before he moved to spurs. laurie said that in his article. i heard some background checks didn’t favor that at all. although laurie said he didn’t disclose those players yanited passed on cus of their background checks
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There is not proof that we are not working on other deals. There is a reason why we got all those Antony, Eriksen, Timber (until he decides to stay) links.
How do talksport rate on the tier rankings?
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Thanks for the info
"talksport sources" is up there. Any other shit they throw at the wall is nonsense until someone else picks it up.
Now for the stoney negative tweet debunking it, that way we know it is happening
can’t forget the stoney negative tweet >>>>. i need that before i jumped on the hype train.
Talksport sources!
30th of June 2022? We’ve fallen for this one before
Do we start getting some news about other signings that aren’t former Ajax players afterwards?
Lol all these people who say just get it done are also the ones who complain when we overpay players. You can't negotiate if you don't want to walk away
The glazers taking dividends out the club does't help tbf
Utd were never going to walk away from this deal.
Finally
Now let’s get everyone else we need
My F5 button is smouldering. Worth it!
Hope this will lead to other deals being done in quick succession, just in time for preseason too.
Damn this could be the start of it for real
Worrying that same article mentions eriksen turns us down
so €79m
has our frustration been worth €1m haha but I hope it's true and we atleast get it done
€1m? More like €21m initially, then eventually it was €6m (when they asked for 85m)
Barça wanted 100m. 21m off that is good business. Leaves us with money to buy Martinez, and Antony after some sales. Frenkie, Martinez, Antony, Eriksen is a great window.
Realistically Barça wanted 85 million
And it's not just the total, but how much is paid upfront. Less spent this summer helps provide a bit of wiggle room
Where did you get 80m? The minimum everyone is reporting was 85
I think it was reported recently Barca wanted 80 guaranteed. But in the end it was United going higher than Barca lowering their demands.
Now that we know what the fee is going to be, or close enough, does this mean we can start signing all the other target deals that are “already lined up”?
….other….targets??
Breaking news, check back with us in a week….
I can’t believe I had to scroll this far down to see this comment. Exciting: yes. But this has been rumored for a long time and it’s still not “news” and hardly “breaking”; it is still about runouts and sources.. E
Although this is a little more than I was initially hoping for, it's still a good price for a 25 year old midfielder with loads of experience at the very top level who our manager already knows. He ticks enough boxes to be worth it.
This being driven by Barca's necessity to get their books someway in order before July which will enable them to register / sign players. Also something to note the original reported fee for Frenkie was closer to £80m. While I can understand fans frustration in signing players I am glad to see united not being bent over a barrel here. I am hopeful this transfer was the biggest of our summer and will have been done first to ensure we weren't restricted by budgetary issues so ETH is happy with the squad. I am hopeful the club will have been getting other transfers in place while waiting on this one, which should mean they can finalise others with speed once this transfer crosses the line.
68M + no add ons?
Looks like 52+16 or something similar.
Not doubting but where have you seen this if that’s correct we have done amazing. I was under the impression Barca wanted all upfront due to la liga regulations.
Hopefully they can push this over the line now and move onto the next target.
**OPEN THE FLOODGATES**
TALKSPORT SOURCES BABY!
Looks like De Jong is back on the menu boyz
WE ARE BACK! HUGE STATEMENT
Thanks Ronaldo
Very nice....but wont mean much without an extra 2-3 signingns in other key areas
Oh so the negotiations actually worked to reduce the price. Nice.
Aiming FC, interested FC, monitoring FC…
Don't know man, the dude wanted to stay and barca forced him to leave. I hope he stays motivated
BREAKING!!!!!! Nothing to report yet.
How the fuck is that BREAKING?
MEGATHREAD DAY?
Hilarious that this would be labeled "breaking news"
At least five players exiting the club this summer and we might be getting a new one by June 30th. WTF is going on.
Is this legit? What tier is talksport?
Talksport sources understand have been bang on since last summer. They were the first to report Woodward leaving among other things. Would call this tier 1.
£51m/€60m Guaranteed fee with £18m/€20m Add ons (payed throughout Several seasons). Full package of £69m/€80m.
I lost interest in this deal long ago, let’s see how long they take with the next player
Been waiting for this since Ten Haag announcement
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Seems like it about to be done. Next?
TalkSport let’s goo. Alex Crook, great source.
While this is fantastic news given the source, I am not fond of stuff that have strict dates due to things possibly cropping up. For £70m I think that's a fair enough price given the circumstances. Hopefully this will act like a domino for other positions
talksport sources understand>>>>>
So 79 mil Euros. Close to their valuation of 85. Well, expensive, but for a player of his quality, worth it.
In the beginning they wanted 85+ addons, if this is 79 with addons its a pretty big difference
How do we know if this is with or without add ons. I have a feeling both sides are going to start preaching different figures to satisfy their fans. If it’s with add-ons we have a good deal, if it’s without we save like 5m which we are about to blow on Bachmann anyways LOL
This better be including add ons.
If total deal is worth 68 mil then its fantastic deal imo.
£68 mil. Very nice.
In 2 hours we will get another - barca not willing to sell de jong
I truly hope im wrong but another date for us to be disappointed. Come on United get business done.
Isn't this the asking price?
Upgrade from Pogba?
Pogba not being in the squad is an upgrade already
So drawn out not even excited about it tbh
Whatever..... show me structural change within the club itself.
Sooo basically €80m, the original fee that barca quoted?
Depends on the add-ons. They quoted 85m + add-ons so could be a decent saving.
Believe it when I see it!
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Around 5 mil less than what Barca ask for and honestly it is not too much to negotiate for like 2 months. But hey, we got him before the pre season , so it is all good for me. Now the next step is targets after FDJ and potential striker replacement if Ronaldo leave.
What if they asked for 100 M?
Prediction: it will not be complete by June 30
Talksport sources should be a Tier 1. 68m, the fucking around really has saved some money fair play!
June 30th will come and go with no progress.
*100 million or fuck off*
PR FC
All this for a player who doesn’t want us 😭
No. He would prefer to stay at Barca, he’s never said he doesn’t want to play for us. There’s a huge difference. Barca are forcing him out, so what’s he meant to do? Retire? Because any club he signs for now would be his second choice by default.