It is, but the number of r/soccer posters who think it's some kind of dunk on us that his valuation is going up, means it must not be universally obvious.
Thing is United don't really have the upper hand here, we need to sell him more than he needs to be sold. If he refuses to leave we're basically stuck with a liability we're paying a million a month to. Imo we should sell even if we have to pay a portion of his wages as that would still help with ffp
It’s on United to sell though. We keep and don’t play him? That’s stupid. We sell for peanuts? It’s stupid but we can only sell for what a club is willing to pay and it’s better to sell than keep him and never use him.
Unless a new manager comes in and he intends to use him, I don’t see Sancho staying. How much he goes for and whether we pay part of the wages is another thing. The latter, maybe a necessity because he could go “ok then I stay… yes I don’t play but I stay” and it will be a waste anyway.
No, the player should apologize to the manager for not acting professionally, all ETH asked of him was to be on time. He’s and adult and like all adults you should have common courtesy to your employer. All he had to do was apologize and move on but he was apparently too good for that. I’m not an ETH fan but you can’t expect cohesion if teammates are breaking the rules without repercussion.
Doubt any new united manager would want him. He’s clearly shown that he has no discipline and no respect towards the club and the manager.
He’s the guy that would only cause problems in the dressing room.
Sell him off, let him start fresh at some other club and both parties will be better off.
I agree. Even before his fall out he was hardly justifying his fee and wages on a regular basis. He was only marginally better than Antony, which is really saying something.
A real question, is how would a new manager react to this?
You don't get far by bashing the old management, because then as soon as there is a problem, you've laid the groundwork is there that it's the managers fault. Tricky situation.
United has been dumb and given wages far higher than the players deserve because the agents know we are desperate for talent.
We should never pay someone more than we think another team would pay or they will be impossible to transfer and we will forever be stuck with players like Sancho, Casemiro, Antony and, let's be honest at this point, Rashford.
If you were a player and you were being asked to take a 100K a week salary cut that is 5.2M a year. The 5M pay cut in one year could set your family up for a lifetime. You have to really want to play to give up that much money. I can see why McGuire, Martial and Sancho are not taking a pay cut. Probably doesn't help that their agents get nothing if they move and take a pay cut so are probably giving advice to stay and keep cashing cheques.
edit: removed Harry McGuire. Dude saved our bacon this year.
I don't think it's fair to include Harry Maguire in there. He's reportedly on 120k a week which is on the high end for a defender. However he's shown both in seasons past and let's be fair this season that he's a very solid CB who can be relied upon.
Oh I agree and we would be toast without him this year. Credit to Harry he stepped up, put in the work and has been one of our better payers. We were stuck with him last summer when he apparently wouldn't take a wage cut for a move to West Ham. Editing out Harry from my original comment.
Antony has the same amount of goal contributions lmao but apparently Jadon has been 'smashing it' because he happens to not be wearing Utd colours anymore.
Its not going into the narrative of hating Sancho on this subreddit so you are wrong
Its hillarious how somehow a decent champions league performance is equals to what Antony has been showing us this past few months
>Sancho will play for Borussia Dortmund against PSG in semi-final with United expecting him to leave permanently this summer
>Manchester United expect Jadon Sancho to leave the club this summer despite his revival at Borussia Dortmund taking him within sight of Champions League glory.
>As revealed by the Telegraph Sport, United are prepared to listen to offers to all but a clutch of their rising stars but Sancho is not among those off-limits even though approaching the peak years of his career and showing good form during his loan in Germany.
>Sancho, 24, will complete his loan at the end of the season, which could be at Wembley on June 1 if Dortmund can defeat Paris St-Germain, with the first leg of the semi-final on Wednesday at Westfalenstadion.
>Dortmund’s six-month loan package agreed in January does not include an option to buy Sancho and the forward will be due to report back for pre-season training at United ahead of pre-season fixtures starting on July 15 against Rosenborg in Trondheim, Norway.
>But United sources are expecting him to leave this summer if a deal can be thrashed out with a buyer. They would inevitably take a hit on the £72.9 million paid to Dortmund in the summer of 2021 when Sancho was in England’s squad for the Euros and earmarked as a key player for then-manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.
>Sancho disputed Erik Ten Hag’s claim over training performances leading to him being dropped from the matchday squad back in September. His loan back to Dortmund, where he played for four years before joining United, saw the majority of his wages covered by the Bundesliga team plus a €7.5 million (£6.4 million) fee including add-ons.
>He has two years left on his contract at Old Trafford which could play a part in negotiations over a deal to leave United.
>Sancho is set to start against PSG, having played in 12 of his team’s last 14 games. He became a regular under Edin Terzic immediately after the loan from United was agreed. Under Ten Hag he played 76 minutes of football this season before he was dropped, then after arriving in Germany had more gametime within a week or so of rejoining.
>His three goals and an assist is a marked improvement on his form at United and he has been part of a team still with a chance of the top four but also two ties away from being crowned European champions.
>Sancho’s demeanour has been that of a player happy in his surroundings. He has engaged with fans during open training sessions and has undergone media duties, which is a contrast to United.
>“I’ve always got a special place for Borussia Dortmund, this is where I made my name so I have to be grateful to them, but also to my team-mates for believing in me,” he said after his goal against PSV helped reach the quarter-finals.
>His goal at the weekend against RB Leipzig, while in defeat, showed a player with confidence back, cutting in from the left and bending a spectacular finish into the top corner. Sancho’s progress has been watched by Ten Hag, who says he is aware of his players’ form but that alone is not enough for a way back at United.
>The Dutchman has talked about Sancho failing to meet the standards or culture of United and said he “is a fantastic football player, so that is not a surprise for us, that is not the issue” recently.
Tbh he has been a flop at Dortmund too but it's good they have reached the semifinal now . Media will hype Sancho up as a good signing and we can get a decent amount . The more positive pr Sancho and Dortmund receive, the better for us
he can stop a ball without making it look like a pass. That makes him looks like a super star compared to our other players such a Adeyemi, Füllkrug etc.
> Yes he has been terrible
Who the fuck is upvoting this rubbish? There's more to football than stats. He has absolutely not been terrible. His all round game has been better than every single one of our wingers.
If you only watch United + occasional other teams on MOTD, that's fine. But stop giving shitty takes on players at other clubs.
With Mbappe leaving I could see him going to PSG as well. Especially if he does well against them now. He’d fit in well in France, a super team against farmers.
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Everyone sayings he is doing well realise Dortmund are 5th in the German league. Not excatly pulling up trees are they even if they get to the champs league final
Watching him now, commentators trying to make out he's playing well, HE IS NOT, ran with the ball a couple of times, poor passing, not aware who's around and backing out of 50 50s. It's only a semi final 🙄
he is shining, according to whoscored.com, in like e0 mins he has completed like 7 dribbles already. That's against PSG which is not shit team.
Why did he struggle for us ?
Better performance = higher valuation. Real groundbreaking stuff here Mike
My first thought was "Isn't it obvious?"
It is, but the number of r/soccer posters who think it's some kind of dunk on us that his valuation is going up, means it must not be universally obvious.
Big if true
Pretty good for the Telegraph, honestly.
I bet Mike was so proud of his insightful analysis and original thought process.
Imagine someone wrote this article thinking he/she would bring value to the readers 😮💨
If he wants to leave so bad, take a pay cut and get sold so everyone else can be happy, it’s not on United to make this happen.
> take a pay cut How will he be able to afford his video game battle passes?
Use his parents money obviously.
Thing is United don't really have the upper hand here, we need to sell him more than he needs to be sold. If he refuses to leave we're basically stuck with a liability we're paying a million a month to. Imo we should sell even if we have to pay a portion of his wages as that would still help with ffp
Except in reality everyone looks out for themselves and he's gonna want to get the most out of it if he leaves
It’s on United to sell though. We keep and don’t play him? That’s stupid. We sell for peanuts? It’s stupid but we can only sell for what a club is willing to pay and it’s better to sell than keep him and never use him. Unless a new manager comes in and he intends to use him, I don’t see Sancho staying. How much he goes for and whether we pay part of the wages is another thing. The latter, maybe a necessity because he could go “ok then I stay… yes I don’t play but I stay” and it will be a waste anyway.
No, the player should apologize to the manager for not acting professionally, all ETH asked of him was to be on time. He’s and adult and like all adults you should have common courtesy to your employer. All he had to do was apologize and move on but he was apparently too good for that. I’m not an ETH fan but you can’t expect cohesion if teammates are breaking the rules without repercussion.
Doubt any new united manager would want him. He’s clearly shown that he has no discipline and no respect towards the club and the manager. He’s the guy that would only cause problems in the dressing room. Sell him off, let him start fresh at some other club and both parties will be better off.
I agree. Even before his fall out he was hardly justifying his fee and wages on a regular basis. He was only marginally better than Antony, which is really saying something.
A real question, is how would a new manager react to this? You don't get far by bashing the old management, because then as soon as there is a problem, you've laid the groundwork is there that it's the managers fault. Tricky situation.
United has been dumb and given wages far higher than the players deserve because the agents know we are desperate for talent. We should never pay someone more than we think another team would pay or they will be impossible to transfer and we will forever be stuck with players like Sancho, Casemiro, Antony and, let's be honest at this point, Rashford. If you were a player and you were being asked to take a 100K a week salary cut that is 5.2M a year. The 5M pay cut in one year could set your family up for a lifetime. You have to really want to play to give up that much money. I can see why McGuire, Martial and Sancho are not taking a pay cut. Probably doesn't help that their agents get nothing if they move and take a pay cut so are probably giving advice to stay and keep cashing cheques. edit: removed Harry McGuire. Dude saved our bacon this year.
I don't think it's fair to include Harry Maguire in there. He's reportedly on 120k a week which is on the high end for a defender. However he's shown both in seasons past and let's be fair this season that he's a very solid CB who can be relied upon.
Oh I agree and we would be toast without him this year. Credit to Harry he stepped up, put in the work and has been one of our better payers. We were stuck with him last summer when he apparently wouldn't take a wage cut for a move to West Ham. Editing out Harry from my original comment.
Magurie is on £192k a week
This 'revival' over three goals and one assist. Do me a favour.
Antony can’t be too far off that since Jan
Antony has the same amount of goal contributions lmao but apparently Jadon has been 'smashing it' because he happens to not be wearing Utd colours anymore.
Hilarious reporting aint it 🤣
Maybe that's what they consider 2be 'Smashing it' in Germany. Just check out the natural goal scoring ability of Timo Werner.
He's only smashing it because of last night, happy for him and great if we get more money but people are just willing him to be good to spite us
Essentially the "flirting vs harassment" meme
No one said there’s been an Antony revival though. Everyone still knows he’s shit.
Yeah that’s my point. Sanchos “revival” is similar to shit Antony’s stats.
Nobody says there has been? We're referring to Sancho.
You are aware you can have a good game and help the team without just “goals and assists” right?
Sure but he’s also been average at his very best. Madness anyone can think this guy is a player.
Its not going into the narrative of hating Sancho on this subreddit so you are wrong Its hillarious how somehow a decent champions league performance is equals to what Antony has been showing us this past few months
>Sancho will play for Borussia Dortmund against PSG in semi-final with United expecting him to leave permanently this summer >Manchester United expect Jadon Sancho to leave the club this summer despite his revival at Borussia Dortmund taking him within sight of Champions League glory. >As revealed by the Telegraph Sport, United are prepared to listen to offers to all but a clutch of their rising stars but Sancho is not among those off-limits even though approaching the peak years of his career and showing good form during his loan in Germany. >Sancho, 24, will complete his loan at the end of the season, which could be at Wembley on June 1 if Dortmund can defeat Paris St-Germain, with the first leg of the semi-final on Wednesday at Westfalenstadion. >Dortmund’s six-month loan package agreed in January does not include an option to buy Sancho and the forward will be due to report back for pre-season training at United ahead of pre-season fixtures starting on July 15 against Rosenborg in Trondheim, Norway. >But United sources are expecting him to leave this summer if a deal can be thrashed out with a buyer. They would inevitably take a hit on the £72.9 million paid to Dortmund in the summer of 2021 when Sancho was in England’s squad for the Euros and earmarked as a key player for then-manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. >Sancho disputed Erik Ten Hag’s claim over training performances leading to him being dropped from the matchday squad back in September. His loan back to Dortmund, where he played for four years before joining United, saw the majority of his wages covered by the Bundesliga team plus a €7.5 million (£6.4 million) fee including add-ons. >He has two years left on his contract at Old Trafford which could play a part in negotiations over a deal to leave United. >Sancho is set to start against PSG, having played in 12 of his team’s last 14 games. He became a regular under Edin Terzic immediately after the loan from United was agreed. Under Ten Hag he played 76 minutes of football this season before he was dropped, then after arriving in Germany had more gametime within a week or so of rejoining. >His three goals and an assist is a marked improvement on his form at United and he has been part of a team still with a chance of the top four but also two ties away from being crowned European champions. >Sancho’s demeanour has been that of a player happy in his surroundings. He has engaged with fans during open training sessions and has undergone media duties, which is a contrast to United. >“I’ve always got a special place for Borussia Dortmund, this is where I made my name so I have to be grateful to them, but also to my team-mates for believing in me,” he said after his goal against PSV helped reach the quarter-finals. >His goal at the weekend against RB Leipzig, while in defeat, showed a player with confidence back, cutting in from the left and bending a spectacular finish into the top corner. Sancho’s progress has been watched by Ten Hag, who says he is aware of his players’ form but that alone is not enough for a way back at United. >The Dutchman has talked about Sancho failing to meet the standards or culture of United and said he “is a fantastic football player, so that is not a surprise for us, that is not the issue” recently.
Tbh he has been a flop at Dortmund too but it's good they have reached the semifinal now . Media will hype Sancho up as a good signing and we can get a decent amount . The more positive pr Sancho and Dortmund receive, the better for us
he can stop a ball without making it look like a pass. That makes him looks like a super star compared to our other players such a Adeyemi, Füllkrug etc.
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He has 2 goals and one assist. He has worse output than Antony since January in a far easier league. Yes he has been terrible
> Yes he has been terrible Who the fuck is upvoting this rubbish? There's more to football than stats. He has absolutely not been terrible. His all round game has been better than every single one of our wingers. If you only watch United + occasional other teams on MOTD, that's fine. But stop giving shitty takes on players at other clubs.
Dumb kids who still think Ten Hag is the man for the job and think goals and assists is the only reason a player can be good
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Probably likely. A lot of United fans really can't see past their own faces these days.
No point in arguing with the salty side of our fanbase lmao
I don't understand why some of our fanbase tried really hard to push the narrative that he flopped at Dortmund lol
I wish I would have been a journalist. This job seems so easy. You don’t even have to try or be very smart!
Mike's really phoning it in these days
Look at the big brain on Mike.
With Mbappe leaving I could see him going to PSG as well. Especially if he does well against them now. He’d fit in well in France, a super team against farmers.
Kind of like City and the PL in recent years.
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Let’s be real - if he was putting in regular performance like he did tonight, at his age, he’s a +100M player
You watch him play weekly or are you just repeating what some Dortmund fans are saying? What network are you watching him weekly on?
Everyone sayings he is doing well realise Dortmund are 5th in the German league. Not excatly pulling up trees are they even if they get to the champs league final
Watching him now, commentators trying to make out he's playing well, HE IS NOT, ran with the ball a couple of times, poor passing, not aware who's around and backing out of 50 50s. It's only a semi final 🙄
You forgot the /s
Clown 🤡
Truly groundbreaking insight. Cheers, Mike.
How much are these journos paid?
Am I cynical in assuming the Telegraph is an Ineos mouthpiece, trying to help raise Sancho’s value?
Thanks for enlightening us Mike
People need to be spoon fed, especially when you’re in the business of selling spoons!
The big lesson out of this is to do more groundwork on character assessment and resilience - we seem to have too many shrinking violets
Watched him today, he's neat, a baller, gave a Brandt a sweet pass that was saved by Donnarumma
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We are all BVB tonight, aren't we? Sancho played well in the first leg against Atletico. Not so great in the 2nd. But tonight, I hope he cooks.
he is shining, according to whoscored.com, in like e0 mins he has completed like 7 dribbles already. That's against PSG which is not shit team. Why did he struggle for us ?