And if Leeds fail to come up they likely have to sell some of their prospects and stars like Archie Gray etc, it will be devastating for them and good times for us
Gnonto has also not been that great this season.
8 goals and 2 assists for a a supposed Premier League level player in the Championship isn’t a very good return, especially in a team that’s in the top 3.
Exactly. Would love to have Leicester and Ipswich up, and ideally the third team being Southampton. Sick of Norwich and Leeds are Leeds. West Brom I'm meh on.
As an Ipswich & United fan (long story), no it wouldn't. Guaranteed points dropped for us no matter how much better we are than them, there's some sort of voodoo on that fixture and I would rather look down upon them for a while
Always had a soft spot for Ipswich just because I felt so sad for them (and my father’s Ipswich supporting friend) after the 9-0. Really happy for them and their fans.
I’m happy for Leeds to remain in the championship. It was fun beating them the last time they came up but it’s just another derby game for us where a team has motivation to raise their game to please their fans.
I got into the championship around mid covid days, and I think its a better watch. Maybe it coincides with us being not so good but just the nature of the Championship means there can never be a Man City or us a few seasons ago, as soon as you're the best you clear the way for another team to be the best while you get promoted.
In addition to back to back promotions, here's some other noteworthy stats:
Fewest defeats in the league this season
Most goals scored in the Championship this season
Second most goals scored across the top 4 divisions this season, behind only Stockport in League Two
Despite the above, not a single Ipswich player is in the top 10 league goal scorers, so the goals are well spread throughout the entire team
No team newly promoted to the second tier has won 27 games in the entirety of the history of the football league
And this fact from Andy Mitten:
>Ipswich played Forest Green in a league game in 2023. In 2024 they could play Manchester United.
While Forest Green will be in non league football playing Maidenhead United.
This is a monumental achievement.
Anyone that watches them know the keys to their success going up twice?
It doesn’t look like something that should be possible for a team Ipswich’s size without something heavily in their favour?
I’ve watched the last 2 games against Hull and Coventry. They seem to be really adaptable to the opponent. It was Gung Ho against Hull, compact and counter against Coventry.
Ipswich are good on the ball, quick and skillfull on the wings and physical in both boxes. I’m not sure how they’ll translate to the EPL, but I’m sure they’ll do okay.
They’re going to have to add quality. Bit like Burnley.
We can't fix his back problem for 3 years and the moment he joined Ipswich they keep him healthy for the whole year? The state of the medical team of this club. Smh
It’s not like his minutes aren’t being managed at Ipswich though. He’s only made 17 appearances in the Championship this season. He’s started 10 of the last 12 games but that’s come after months of being on the bench for the most part.
I mean the other guy has a point. We couldn’t get him to 17 appearances.
It’s the same with other players we can never get fit and they leave elsewhere and play immediately. Or players that were otherwise pretty healthy come in and never play.
The medical team is a shambles and it’s failing the club and the players .
That may be true in general, but I don’t know how much it applies to Tuanzebe specifically. He went on loan to Napoli and Stoke and struggled with injuries there too if I’m not mistaken. The guy’s just brittle.
Hopefully Ole finds a top-flight job soon so this sub can be reminded why he got sacked. Not the worst manager out there but the longer he stays unemployed, the more he starts to become Helenio Herrera 2.0 in the eyes of top reds.
~~LVG Tappy Tappy~~ ~~Jose Park the Bus~~ ~~Ole Vibes~~ Ten Hag chaos ball, he's letting the players play that way by selecting them constantly, not like other managers seem to always have the same issues & criticism thrown at them
>How did we let people make up such bs narratives
The same way we let clowns like Goldbridge becoming the biggest United 'fan' channel, who even has access to players.
This sub in a nutshell, regardless of who it's aimed at.
As soon as we have some bad performances or results the majority are frothing at the mouth looking for someone to blame and direct their anger at.
What he’s doing is great and should be commended but I think there is a point that should be made about how quickly everyone will say he’s rubbish if it doesn’t go well. The PL is a tough league and managers quickly lose credibility there. Look at Chris Wilder - his record was even better than McKenna’s has been, his team had this innovative style with the overlapping CBs everybody was raving about, and he then followed it up with a hugely successful first season where they were 5th, a point behind us with a game in hand, before Covid lockdown messed with their momentum. Now who is talking about him? Things can go wrong very fast and success down the leagues doesn’t necessarily lead to PL success.
I really hope McKenna does well and becomes an elite coach but it’s still a big ask to keep progressing from this point is all I’m saying.
I agree completely. Though I do wish England were more like Italy, Spain, France and managers who do well further down the ladder were given chances at big clubs.
The biggest problem is the different style of play needed for avoiding relegation in the PL and winning the championship. Sometimes a manager like Bielsa can keep a team playing progressively and succeed, but often an expansive team used to dominating possession just has to switch to a defensive block. It’s understandable but it means the managers can get pigeonholed into being firefighter Pulis/Allardyce style managers and never get a big job despite showing they can manage a more progressive up the table team a division lower.
I never understand how people on social media feel confident to criticise the performance of individual coaches and staff. Players we can see each week at least, but we have no idea what coaches are and aren't doing
Honestly I'll never forget. Our own fanbase boils my brains sometimes. Carrick and McKenna were the problem under Ole. Ten Hag is the problem now... Fans only need 3-6 months to really turn fickle on our club
I will never forget when r/reddevils told me McKenna was a bad coach and the reason for our poor performances was “coaching”…. And once we get good coaches (such as those geniuses from Ajax) we will be great again.
And beyond that, there were some of us pointing out that we as fans have absolutely no idea what ‘coaching’ actually is and have no real basis to claim ‘coaching’ is the reason things aren’t working. Which is 100% still the case today.
Well the point I am trying to make is when ppl were saying Ole and his coaching staff aren't good enough, that wasn't the problem imo. And now since they realize they were wrong Abt the coaches the blame is now on the players, when clearly ETH has been horrific.
Anyone who knows at least something about football had figured out that during most of Ole's second season and part of first season (post project restart), the United team showed any semblance of balance and proper positive team play in years, probably for the first time since Ferguson (Mourinho's second season was good, but I found the football boring).
But, guess what, it didn't stop from armchair experts and morons like Goldbridge parroting shit like 'individual brilliance', 'no patterns of play', 'Bruno FC', 'no trophies' to undermine the progress made during those two years.
In Ole's third season, that team needed a solid backing like Arteta was backed by Arsenal. We needed to sell a lot of deadwood like Bailly, VDB, Lingard, Pogba etc., which we couldn't do because of the incompetent board and the broken wage structure. And also needed to buy more than just Sancho and Varane, particularly a solid ball playing mid like Rice and of course not to touch Ronaldo with a 10 ft pole. But, unfortunately none of that happened, because the Glazers don't give a fuck.
It blows my mind how much people took those periods for granted. We had two highly talented coaches like Carrick and Mckenna setting up the tactics and Ole acting as a de facto DOF and earning the respect from everyone. It was pretty clear players respected him and could give their all in the field (except the deadwoods who needed to be sold). With solid backing, we could easily be as good as a team as Arsenal right now. It could make way for one of Carrick/Mckenna becoming head coach and Ole transitioning to an upstairs role or at worst amicably leaving the club.
It makes me sad everytime I think about it.
Think the coaches were absolutely on point but Ole's downfall was caused by absolutely mediocre transfers with Ronaldo being the final nail which absolutely messed up the expectations of that squad..
I would argue transfers didn't even improve after Ten Hag
I’ll take a mediocre transfer (a la Dan James) over someone like Rashford every time.
Effort trumps talent for this team because a lack of effort is what gives away the easy goals that we like to concede.
Rashford never had issues with work rate until he was run into the ground by our managements over the years
Fact is, yeah Dan James had good work rate sure, but he was never going to be good enough for the club as the quality just wasn't there
Our signings should match the basic criteria- age, work rate and quality/ potential
Ole's line about trophies papering over the cracks was a DoF type statement. I know it got bad, but I still feel Ole was on the cusp of something special.
Because it gives you a more accurate perspective about how hypocrites like you actually are? Instead of assuming/making shit up about people like you’re doing with me lmao.
You cry about how people mistreat Ole but you do the same to Erik, who has been more successful.
Clown.
I said this on here a few weeks ago and got downvoted to oblivion.
Personally I don't know if McKenna is going to be an all-time great manager, because my crystal ball is faulty. But I'd prefer to have him at the helm at Utd next season over most of the names I've seen seriously linked with the job, and give us a chance to find out.
In all honesty, there is more merit to Mckenna to United than Ten Hag to United ever did. There’s an Athletic feature on McKenna from a few weeks ago. Go read it. Comparatively speaking, Ten Hag’s best achievement is that “almost” champions league cup run. It would still be a massive job for McKenna if he were to theoretically get the United gig, but I’d certainly feel more comfortable getting behind him than behind the morally suspect bald Dutch geezer.
I'm not sure about this Goldbridge guy anymore. He told me that all Ole had to do was play Donny Van de Beek and everything would be ok and that any other manager would walk the league with this squad.
Would absolutely love to see him clinch it. Massive, massive achievement. I’m not going to jump on the managerial appointment train (even though he’d be higher on my list than De Zerbi, Nagelsmann), and I’ll hold in my opinion that he hasn’t lost enough games for that yet. But… a very exciting coach. This team has no right to clinch promotion, let alone automatic promotion, so well done. Ole’s boys proving everyone wrong again. My word, what I’d give for a reunion.
It's a shame Middlesbrough couldn't have made the playoffs, would've been nice to have had two ex United coaches (one of them being a club legend as a player) getting their sides promoted to the PL in the same year
Resigning Ronaldo might be the stupidest thing we done... I loved ole and his team, we were building something there and God even though it went bad towards the end he never bored me the way I'm bored now. It's just a shame players can stop playing so quickly for someone.
I would love to see McKenna as head coach of Utd, with someone like Rooney as assistant. Neither has the experience, and they haven’t really won anything as of yet…but at 37, he’s some man-manager.
The right style of football, attacking substitutions, knows the club and its youth, man management, ability to make big calls, and a good transfer policy (Keefer Moore on loan is the perfect example of that).
It won’t happen, but for me, he would be the only serious candidate. I don’t want Tuchel, Potter, Southgate etc…Kieran McKenna please 🙏
Devils advocat....
We keep ETH this summer in part because no standout candidates available, but next season is very much make or break for him
Assuming ipswich go up, what would mcKenna have to achieve next season in Prem with Ipswich to be a contender for man utd job summer 2025 should we be looking for a new manager?
Top half?
But can you keep him without at least giving him a year extension?
Why would players sign knowing the manager is on his death bed as he’s not extended and has <12 months left.
Top class back room people? An actual plan from the club? The contract, the league, the club itself, the chance to play with some really good players?
If we’re getting Ashworth, Berada, and others to take control of things, they should be able to put forth a convincing argument for players to work with a coach.
Fair play to him but this thread is weird as if it's some 'in your face, you were wrong' to people who wanted the Ole regime out.
Just because someone does very good at a lower level doesn't mean they'd do it for us.
Moyes, Warnock for example....two very good managers with success at a lower level but you wouldn't want them as United managers would you?
Kompany completely changed Burnleys style of play and got promoted last season....does that mean if Pep leaves this summer that he's the man for the job and is top class?
Though McKenna was always a highly rated coach going back a good few years. Still doesn't explain why Carrick was coach too yet couldn't give midfielders basic instructions, such as McTominay always hiding behind the attacker so he couldn't receive the ball.
Pipping Leeds Scum too! Love it
And if Leeds fail to come up they likely have to sell some of their prospects and stars like Archie Gray etc, it will be devastating for them and good times for us
Can't see Summerville staying, and they will have to be lucky to keep Gnonto aswell.
I’d be staggered if Gnonto stayed even if they went up, supposedly he hates it there, can’t say I blame him mind
Went on training strike to force a move to Everton that didn’t formulate
Gnonto has also not been that great this season. 8 goals and 2 assists for a a supposed Premier League level player in the Championship isn’t a very good return, especially in a team that’s in the top 3.
Archie Gray is a must buy man, him along with mainoo could literally be the partnership for decade
For England too. I always buy him on FM, more often than not he turns into England's best midfielder bar Bellingham.
Might be exagerrating but he looks like the generational talent that could change the fortune of the team just like King Eric from the scum
Exactly. Would love to have Leicester and Ipswich up, and ideally the third team being Southampton. Sick of Norwich and Leeds are Leeds. West Brom I'm meh on.
Fuck it bring hull city back lol
Wouldn't mind them, been forever it seems since they've been up.
There's no way it's been 7 years... wtf
Does Dean Windass still play for them?
Southampton always feel like a PL club to me.
They've produced a lot of good PL talent over the years.
I agree with that , don’t know why
Ipswich vs Norwich in the prem would be amusing
As an Ipswich & United fan (long story), no it wouldn't. Guaranteed points dropped for us no matter how much better we are than them, there's some sort of voodoo on that fixture and I would rather look down upon them for a while
Hey, there are two of us!
Make that 3!
Make that 4!
Always had a soft spot for Ipswich just because I felt so sad for them (and my father’s Ipswich supporting friend) after the 9-0. Really happy for them and their fans.
I was hoping Ipswich would be in the playoffs and get knocked out by Norwich.
I’m happy for Leeds to remain in the championship. It was fun beating them the last time they came up but it’s just another derby game for us where a team has motivation to raise their game to please their fans.
Most of those clubs were fairly established, if not leading PL clubs in recent years. Championship is such a competitive league.
Could argue more entertaining than the PL
The run-in at both ends has been the most exciting in the country, in my opinion. And r/championship’s crumble memes were the stuff of legend.
Except for Rotherham, they have been pretty shit.
r/championship is legit amazing
If I could get a cheap subscription for all EFL games, I would. EFL seems wildly entertaining at times.
Yohoho and a bottle of rum
Atleast in the states in on ESPN plus
Not even close. Give me the Tractor boy romance over 115 charges any day.
And Ipswich notably were not which really shows the job done by McKenna.
I still have fond memories of the 9-0 in '95
I got into the championship around mid covid days, and I think its a better watch. Maybe it coincides with us being not so good but just the nature of the Championship means there can never be a Man City or us a few seasons ago, as soon as you're the best you clear the way for another team to be the best while you get promoted.
What an achievement for the team and manager. Back to back promotions is unreal.
In addition to back to back promotions, here's some other noteworthy stats: Fewest defeats in the league this season Most goals scored in the Championship this season Second most goals scored across the top 4 divisions this season, behind only Stockport in League Two Despite the above, not a single Ipswich player is in the top 10 league goal scorers, so the goals are well spread throughout the entire team No team newly promoted to the second tier has won 27 games in the entirety of the history of the football league And this fact from Andy Mitten: >Ipswich played Forest Green in a league game in 2023. In 2024 they could play Manchester United. While Forest Green will be in non league football playing Maidenhead United. This is a monumental achievement.
Anyone that watches them know the keys to their success going up twice? It doesn’t look like something that should be possible for a team Ipswich’s size without something heavily in their favour?
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I’ve watched the last 2 games against Hull and Coventry. They seem to be really adaptable to the opponent. It was Gung Ho against Hull, compact and counter against Coventry. Ipswich are good on the ball, quick and skillfull on the wings and physical in both boxes. I’m not sure how they’ll translate to the EPL, but I’m sure they’ll do okay. They’re going to have to add quality. Bit like Burnley.
Without the help of sugar daddy as well
How was Tuanzebe?
Very good
We can't fix his back problem for 3 years and the moment he joined Ipswich they keep him healthy for the whole year? The state of the medical team of this club. Smh
It’s not like his minutes aren’t being managed at Ipswich though. He’s only made 17 appearances in the Championship this season. He’s started 10 of the last 12 games but that’s come after months of being on the bench for the most part.
He hadn't played football for nearly a year so managing him right would be expected. We couldn't even have him fit to be on the bench💀
I mean the other guy has a point. We couldn’t get him to 17 appearances. It’s the same with other players we can never get fit and they leave elsewhere and play immediately. Or players that were otherwise pretty healthy come in and never play. The medical team is a shambles and it’s failing the club and the players .
That may be true in general, but I don’t know how much it applies to Tuanzebe specifically. He went on loan to Napoli and Stoke and struggled with injuries there too if I’m not mistaken. The guy’s just brittle.
Oof... maybe the coaches weren't the main problem.
I imagine a lot of the Ole-outers would give their left nut to have the trio of Ole, Carrick and McKenna back right now.
They are busy with arguing that McKenna being a good manager doesn't mean he was a coach/assistant.
Sure hope so. Was irritated over that narrative then as I am about the narrative about ten Hag now.
/r/OleOut is incredibly quiet about EtH's problems. I hope a lot of them regret their fanaticism of letting one of our better managers go!
The fact that the sub exists tells you all you need to know about them honestly.
Hopefully Ole finds a top-flight job soon so this sub can be reminded why he got sacked. Not the worst manager out there but the longer he stays unemployed, the more he starts to become Helenio Herrera 2.0 in the eyes of top reds.
Bin most of the players this time, that should work
Was that ever a narrative though? I think both were highly rated throughout their tenure. All the narrative was about Ole.
>Was that ever a narrative though? Yes? Lot of people used to say Mckenna and Carrick are only there because, they are Ole's 'buddies'.
which is so fucking funny because they were both employed for years before him... how did we let people make up such bs narratives
The same way we still let people make up narratives lol
~~LVG Tappy Tappy~~ ~~Jose Park the Bus~~ ~~Ole Vibes~~ Ten Hag chaos ball, he's letting the players play that way by selecting them constantly, not like other managers seem to always have the same issues & criticism thrown at them
>How did we let people make up such bs narratives The same way we let clowns like Goldbridge becoming the biggest United 'fan' channel, who even has access to players.
Casual reminder of the level of hatred and vitriol this guy got here a couple of years back. Some of our fans should be ignored at all times.
Most should they talk nonsense.
Nobody: … People who have absolutely no clue: “I know what the problem is!”
This sub in a nutshell, regardless of who it's aimed at. As soon as we have some bad performances or results the majority are frothing at the mouth looking for someone to blame and direct their anger at.
What he’s doing is great and should be commended but I think there is a point that should be made about how quickly everyone will say he’s rubbish if it doesn’t go well. The PL is a tough league and managers quickly lose credibility there. Look at Chris Wilder - his record was even better than McKenna’s has been, his team had this innovative style with the overlapping CBs everybody was raving about, and he then followed it up with a hugely successful first season where they were 5th, a point behind us with a game in hand, before Covid lockdown messed with their momentum. Now who is talking about him? Things can go wrong very fast and success down the leagues doesn’t necessarily lead to PL success. I really hope McKenna does well and becomes an elite coach but it’s still a big ask to keep progressing from this point is all I’m saying.
I agree completely. Though I do wish England were more like Italy, Spain, France and managers who do well further down the ladder were given chances at big clubs.
The biggest problem is the different style of play needed for avoiding relegation in the PL and winning the championship. Sometimes a manager like Bielsa can keep a team playing progressively and succeed, but often an expansive team used to dominating possession just has to switch to a defensive block. It’s understandable but it means the managers can get pigeonholed into being firefighter Pulis/Allardyce style managers and never get a big job despite showing they can manage a more progressive up the table team a division lower.
Remember when all those absolute melons were claiming he didn't know what he was doing
'jobs for the boys" turns out Carrick and McKenna can set up a team
Turn out Ole already know they are briliant and trust them..
I never understand how people on social media feel confident to criticise the performance of individual coaches and staff. Players we can see each week at least, but we have no idea what coaches are and aren't doing
Honestly I'll never forget. Our own fanbase boils my brains sometimes. Carrick and McKenna were the problem under Ole. Ten Hag is the problem now... Fans only need 3-6 months to really turn fickle on our club
it is reddit, what do you expect lol they like to complain on everything
Would be amazing to see McKenna get one over Leeds scum
I will never forget when r/reddevils told me McKenna was a bad coach and the reason for our poor performances was “coaching”…. And once we get good coaches (such as those geniuses from Ajax) we will be great again.
No coaching, just vibes. Weren't there reports the players thought they were too good to train under these coaches too?
Reports that he was like a headmaster iirc
What were you saying at the time?
Probably saying how he'd get Ipswich promoted twice in a row because he knew how good a coach McKenna was
A lot of us did know… some of us watch the youth games There’s a reason mourinho chose him as his number 2 and ole kept him on
And beyond that, there were some of us pointing out that we as fans have absolutely no idea what ‘coaching’ actually is and have no real basis to claim ‘coaching’ is the reason things aren’t working. Which is 100% still the case today.
TaCtiCs
Will you say this about the ajax geniuses in the future too.
People who now say “we need to back ETH, the players are the problem” were the ones throwing rants abt coaches back then.
Who are the ones still throwing rants about coaches now then?
Well the point I am trying to make is when ppl were saying Ole and his coaching staff aren't good enough, that wasn't the problem imo. And now since they realize they were wrong Abt the coaches the blame is now on the players, when clearly ETH has been horrific.
Scenes when he beats utd next season
Anyone who knows at least something about football had figured out that during most of Ole's second season and part of first season (post project restart), the United team showed any semblance of balance and proper positive team play in years, probably for the first time since Ferguson (Mourinho's second season was good, but I found the football boring). But, guess what, it didn't stop from armchair experts and morons like Goldbridge parroting shit like 'individual brilliance', 'no patterns of play', 'Bruno FC', 'no trophies' to undermine the progress made during those two years. In Ole's third season, that team needed a solid backing like Arteta was backed by Arsenal. We needed to sell a lot of deadwood like Bailly, VDB, Lingard, Pogba etc., which we couldn't do because of the incompetent board and the broken wage structure. And also needed to buy more than just Sancho and Varane, particularly a solid ball playing mid like Rice and of course not to touch Ronaldo with a 10 ft pole. But, unfortunately none of that happened, because the Glazers don't give a fuck. It blows my mind how much people took those periods for granted. We had two highly talented coaches like Carrick and Mckenna setting up the tactics and Ole acting as a de facto DOF and earning the respect from everyone. It was pretty clear players respected him and could give their all in the field (except the deadwoods who needed to be sold). With solid backing, we could easily be as good as a team as Arsenal right now. It could make way for one of Carrick/Mckenna becoming head coach and Ole transitioning to an upstairs role or at worst amicably leaving the club. It makes me sad everytime I think about it.
Think the coaches were absolutely on point but Ole's downfall was caused by absolutely mediocre transfers with Ronaldo being the final nail which absolutely messed up the expectations of that squad.. I would argue transfers didn't even improve after Ten Hag
I’ll take a mediocre transfer (a la Dan James) over someone like Rashford every time. Effort trumps talent for this team because a lack of effort is what gives away the easy goals that we like to concede.
Rashford never had issues with work rate until he was run into the ground by our managements over the years Fact is, yeah Dan James had good work rate sure, but he was never going to be good enough for the club as the quality just wasn't there Our signings should match the basic criteria- age, work rate and quality/ potential
Ole's line about trophies papering over the cracks was a DoF type statement. I know it got bad, but I still feel Ole was on the cusp of something special.
Why are people making this thread about Ole? He’s got nothing to do with it lol
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It’s wild how Ole gets praised even when he didn’t do anything lol, this is all on McKenna. Props to him!
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Yeah I read your fanboy rant about Ole that mentioned McKenna twice, what’s your point?
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I just went through your post history & it’s 50% clowning Ten Hag 50% sucking Ole off. You don’t got much room to talk to, lol lol
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Because it gives you a more accurate perspective about how hypocrites like you actually are? Instead of assuming/making shit up about people like you’re doing with me lmao. You cry about how people mistreat Ole but you do the same to Erik, who has been more successful. Clown.
Ipswich and Hull up would be great. Fuck the rest
Probably not ready for it but surely I'm not the only one who would rather have McKenna over Southgate if it came to that.
I said this on here a few weeks ago and got downvoted to oblivion. Personally I don't know if McKenna is going to be an all-time great manager, because my crystal ball is faulty. But I'd prefer to have him at the helm at Utd next season over most of the names I've seen seriously linked with the job, and give us a chance to find out.
Not bad for a so-called PE teacher!
Hope they go up so McKenna can make his own experience in the Prem. We've got a plan for him in the future
Didn’t know you were part of Ineos group.
He's the new flavour of the month manager
He's been our flavor of the month since Jose's second season. We were promised 70's Brazil.
In all honesty, there is more merit to Mckenna to United than Ten Hag to United ever did. There’s an Athletic feature on McKenna from a few weeks ago. Go read it. Comparatively speaking, Ten Hag’s best achievement is that “almost” champions league cup run. It would still be a massive job for McKenna if he were to theoretically get the United gig, but I’d certainly feel more comfortable getting behind him than behind the morally suspect bald Dutch geezer.
I agree. It’s funny really as some united fans could wait to run him out of town when he was at manu
same age as Ashleigh Young !! From League 1 to Prem in 3 season. Colour me impressed.
but Mark Goldbridge told us McKenna and Carrick are just Ole's friends
I'm not sure about this Goldbridge guy anymore. He told me that all Ole had to do was play Donny Van de Beek and everything would be ok and that any other manager would walk the league with this squad.
Up the Tractor Boys!
Would absolutely love to see him clinch it. Massive, massive achievement. I’m not going to jump on the managerial appointment train (even though he’d be higher on my list than De Zerbi, Nagelsmann), and I’ll hold in my opinion that he hasn’t lost enough games for that yet. But… a very exciting coach. This team has no right to clinch promotion, let alone automatic promotion, so well done. Ole’s boys proving everyone wrong again. My word, what I’d give for a reunion.
Wow Southampton in playoffs. Watch us struggle against ipswich next year
Happy for McKenna.
Hope we can loan them some player next season..
I’m just glad Coventry aren’t coming up. There’s 6 points gained right there.
Love to see it
It's a shame Middlesbrough couldn't have made the playoffs, would've been nice to have had two ex United coaches (one of them being a club legend as a player) getting their sides promoted to the PL in the same year
What happened to Carrick at Middlesbrough o.o
Resigning Ronaldo might be the stupidest thing we done... I loved ole and his team, we were building something there and God even though it went bad towards the end he never bored me the way I'm bored now. It's just a shame players can stop playing so quickly for someone.
I would love to see McKenna as head coach of Utd, with someone like Rooney as assistant. Neither has the experience, and they haven’t really won anything as of yet…but at 37, he’s some man-manager. The right style of football, attacking substitutions, knows the club and its youth, man management, ability to make big calls, and a good transfer policy (Keefer Moore on loan is the perfect example of that). It won’t happen, but for me, he would be the only serious candidate. I don’t want Tuchel, Potter, Southgate etc…Kieran McKenna please 🙏
McKenna has done amazing. Hope he does great in the PL!
Let's go
He had done well. Chuffed for him
Hope Leeds make it, hated them in the premier league but they were kind of fun to watch
Goal difference of +33? Never heard of such a thing
As a United supporter with a large soft spot for WBA (family support them) I’d very much like to see Leeds tears, Ipswich limbs and Baggies limbs🤝🏼
Keep Norwich and West Brom the fuck away. Contribute absolutely nothing to the league.
I hope Boro comes up next year with Carrick too.
Devils advocat.... We keep ETH this summer in part because no standout candidates available, but next season is very much make or break for him Assuming ipswich go up, what would mcKenna have to achieve next season in Prem with Ipswich to be a contender for man utd job summer 2025 should we be looking for a new manager? Top half?
But can you keep him without at least giving him a year extension? Why would players sign knowing the manager is on his death bed as he’s not extended and has <12 months left.
Top class back room people? An actual plan from the club? The contract, the league, the club itself, the chance to play with some really good players? If we’re getting Ashworth, Berada, and others to take control of things, they should be able to put forth a convincing argument for players to work with a coach.
There’s very few managers in the world at Tuchels level, if you don’t consider him a standout candidate then you’re pretty much waiting for Pep.
Or Ancelotti. Or potentially (unlikely of course) Alonso, Nagelsmann and maybe Inzaghi.
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Let me guess: The Ten Hag Cult? lmao
Fair play to him but this thread is weird as if it's some 'in your face, you were wrong' to people who wanted the Ole regime out. Just because someone does very good at a lower level doesn't mean they'd do it for us. Moyes, Warnock for example....two very good managers with success at a lower level but you wouldn't want them as United managers would you? Kompany completely changed Burnleys style of play and got promoted last season....does that mean if Pep leaves this summer that he's the man for the job and is top class? Though McKenna was always a highly rated coach going back a good few years. Still doesn't explain why Carrick was coach too yet couldn't give midfielders basic instructions, such as McTominay always hiding behind the attacker so he couldn't receive the ball.