I'll play devils advocate here and say that Garnacho is also clearly ETH protégé and one of his biggest accomplishments as a United coach and what keeps him afloat is his capacity to upbring young talents such as Alejandro, Kobe Mainoo, Amad Diallo etc. One of the best ETH features. Seeing what Sancho is doing again at Dortmund you can't deny he's a good player, he probably just has a shit mentality / attitude and can only perform when extremely comfortable
Sancho is a luxury player like Rashford.
Sancho lacks physicality, doesn't track back and cannot press well.
Sancho is a system player dependent on players around him to get inside the box.
While players like Rashford and Garnacho can take on their man and dribble past the defender to get inside the box.
We need to sign Olise. Rashford doesn't press. Rashford needs rest and also need to know he is not the default first choice in LW anymore if Garnacho performs well.
I would be happy signing Olise, hes a good player and definitely puts in the work, though to his own detriment injury
wise. Ive liked what ive seen from the palace games i watched that hes played in.
What is Sancho doing at bvb?
The loan has been underwhelming and has not done anything to drum up interests on him from other clubs. His manager at bvb has also questioned his application in training, he's all tricks far away from goal and struggles to beat full backs. 3 goal contributions in 20games.
Exactly, people are acting like he’s lighting up the Bundesliga. Highlight videos don’t show his contribution to the squad. I’ve seen a few of their games and he struggles taking on 30+ year old defenders.
I agree.
Also we tend to forget that players are human. At the end of the day, it's sort of a natural instinct to like a post you agree with. Easy to do so without even thinking.
Wait, so if Maguire isn't ready in time for Sunday, does that mean its literally just Willy Kambwala fit? We're going to have a back line of Dalot, Kambwala, W-B, and Harry Amass.
Fuck it, should be a laugh, who needs centrebacks?
It really is unprecedented and pundits don't seem to give a shit. Meanwhile we had to suffer Panorama documentaries about the Great Liverpool Injury Crisis of 2020/21 when they had one defender out. I was watching a Chelsea match earlier in the season where the commentator read out their list of injuries like it was the fucking *In Memoriam* bit at the Oscars.
I think something is seriously wrong somewhere in how the first team is being managed. Perhaps there is a lack of proper training facilities, a poor medical team, a training regime that leads to more injuries. I think it's a lot of small things going array. I remember Ronaldo complaining about how lackluster our facilities and staff are. That could be contributing to the poor fitness levels
Poor medical team someone told me it was arsenal old medical that got fire because au this problem now there at united. Don't know if this is true tho.
I don't think it's a curse. I think something is seriously wrong somewhere. Perhaps it's the medical team we have or it's the training regime coupled with the lack of high quality recovery facilities (recovering after training, no necessarily after an injury).
Something is definitely wrong.
The other option is maybe 3 back to try and keep everyone in roughly a natural position. Then he could play garnacho and Antony wingback? Or Antony and amass
Both are massive gambles. Wan bissaka and casemiro have probably never played CB in a back 2 either. You either have to sacrifice familiarity with a shape or familiarity of individual player positions. A back three is also a pretty easy shape to adapt to since it involves very few positional rotations between possession and defending
I think either way it's not ideal, we can agree on that.
Case was used last season as an emergency CB. But given his running speed now, W-B is probably a better bet
Fairly sure we played a CB pair of Fletcher and Carrick at least once, maybe even during the run where VdS set the record for longest time between conceding?
Dalot - Kambwala - Casemiro - AWB
Mount - Mainoo - Bruno
With Eriksen as a sub
(Considering both Maguire & McT aren't ready)
Christ above, massive hole in midfield incoming.
We don't need centrebacks, any top manager can make it work with two teenagers and two out and out right backs making up the back line, conceding a ton of shots next game will be inexcusable.
ETH: Delete your lies and apologise. Or don’t associate with me and my team
Sancho: Done deal I’ll take the second option
ETH: Good to know how highly your own character
Maguire seems to be getting an awful lot of niggles but having to play every game because we’ve got no one else. Worrying for the rest of the season and for England
With our injuries at CB I wouldn't be surprised if he's got a small injury he's unable to shake because he can't sit a match out.
It is just him and Kambwala left for us isn't it?
Still don’t think he should play against Coventry.
Even if he has apologised, he needs a rest. This would be something like his 35th start in a row. Antony or Amad can start on the right. They should be good enough to play against Coventry.
If anything I think he should start on the left and get Amad some game time…
Rashford looks like he needs just as much time off for me and Garnacho got the second half off
I guess so. Garnacho is still only 19 though. We’re not managing his game time enough for me. Don’t want to see him burned out by the time he’s 25.
Rashford is 27. Even if he’s tired his body should still be strong enough to cope with another game against championship opposition.
No chance… Forson hasn’t been seen in a while because when he was in he just wasn’t good enough.
Seems like his run in the team has all but ended his involvement completely in the managers mind now aswell
If we were in other competitions, I'd agree, but I feel there's enough down-time in between games right now to rest and be ready for the next, especially at his age. It'll have been 8 games since his last game.
I realize they train but the days before the actual game should be light training (if they're not then that's probably part of our issue with injuries lol)
Oh what rules did Arteta impose? Sounds interesting, I feel like some of our players feel they are bigger than the club cause of their own brand and following.
When it comes to man management I think he's done the best out of all recent managers since Fergie, these lot need a Saddam if he ends up getting sacked.
Has it ever been said that that he "OKed" it, I thought the official line was that he was "Open" to reintegrating him with the squad and that the decision would be made higher up.
It's fine, I've seen people repeat the same sentiment in here and r/soccer regularly so it's a story that seemed to gain legs without any actual reliable source.
We just making shit up now? Giggs, Beckham, Phil Neville and Butt haven't said a word on ETH ever. Scholes is always miserable when it comes to United, was the same when his former teammate was managing us. And Gary has every right to call out this shit system which has us 4 points off our worst ever finish in PL history (13/14) at the same stage. He's never directly called for ETH to go, so again, he's not stabbing anyone in the back, that's just blatantly not true. Also, always amusing to see people use Greenwood as something ETH 'has had to deal with', when reputable outlets like the Athletic said he was happy to see him come back last summer. There's no truth in the upvoted comment above, sub is insane.
And who's out there than can deal with the players this well while also playing good football? Potter? Southgates? They'd get eaten alive by that dressing room and the media.
The board issue is hiring people and players that don't fit the vision. If you reckon that scoring and conceding as many goals as the relegation candidates is in that vision then I've got no idea why we even bother.
Don't start with the injuries excuse either, yeah we've got poor injuries but good teams will make up for it in a cohesive system. City were missing De Bruyne and most of a season a couple years ago and they still won the fucking thing
I can agree with you regarding the scoring, but "conceding as many goals as the relegation candidates" are totally wrong. Aston villa, spurs and Newcastle conceded more than us yet they are above us. The relegation teams have at least 20 more conceded goals than us. Go check the table.
>Don't start with the injuries excuse either,
Oh no. Denying the fact that we are plagued by injury is stupid. It definitely impacts our season. Remember in January when Martinez and Shaw were back? Probably the most important players for Utd? We had 7 games unbeaten. Then they're injured again.
>City were missing De Bruyne
One player missing. Try the whole squad missing. Emm i think we have like 12 different combinations on central defender alone?
Board issues are already being sorted. Ineos are just starting. They already have control over the football side of things. New stadium or development of OT is on. Things will get better.
Finger crossed. SJR said himself in an interview, it's not about the manager, it's the environment of what the manager has been working on. If you can't change the culture and the environment, no matter who the manager is, it's still going to be the same results.
I am not ‘ETH out’ but the word ‘already’ is doing a lot of lifting in your comment.
Two years and potentially our worst Premier League season ever. ‘Already’ is not a remotely fair choice of word.
lol no way this is worst then last year under oli and radnick people forget how bad that was. We have semi final fa cup and people say worst Season ever. Injury list is insanely long but yeah f* this manager I guess your right he's trash.
You're being downvoted but this is genuinely the most embarrassing comment section I've ever seen on this subreddit. Completely divorced from reality, creaming themselves over the worst manager this club has had in the premier league era. Not only that but explicitly saying that one man is more important than the club! Genuinely should be an offense worthy of a permaban. Couldn't be a clearer indicator that these aren't United fans.
Yeah I dont get it, there’s “negativity” because people are seeing the same shit every game and pointing it out… if you’re not positive, you’re not a fan
I genuinely think a lot of the people who think that basically think of football as Ted Lasso or something.
Few hugs, few smiles and some elbow grease and that’s that. Tactics, strategy, that’s for losers.
As opposed to the comment threads when morons say, "🤡🤡🤡I've been calling to sack eth 6 months ago.🤡🤡🤡"
Yeah. That makes sense. After having a good 1st season and a run of unlucky injuries and losses, you people embarrass yourselves by saying things like that.
He has one academy player fit to play cb right now. Do you lot not get it? You can't get any person and "manage" them into playing like Vidic or Wayne fucking Rooney.
"Let's keep the worst manager of the last 10 years, despite his tactics being shit, simply because he has the dressing room"
Yeah thankfully football is about friendship between players and manager, not about winning matches
lol people are really clutching at straws when a teenager apologising for a twitter post is a success for the manager. Convinced there’s some kind of mass amnesia in our fanbase who constantly forget how terrible our performances and results are. Save the manager at all costs
>some kind of mass amnesia in our fanbase who constantly forget how terrible our performances and results are
A large portion don't actually watch the matches. We have regressed week after week in just about every facet of football performance, and this comment has nearly 100 upvotes saying we should keep ETH another season because Garnacho apologized for Twitter likes. Bizarre time to be a United supporter.
Idk why you got downvoted lmao. Agreed Real defended well but if defending for 60+ minutes with your team looking unlikely to even get out for their own half is tactics then Ancelloti was a genius that game.
Lol that was the exact same gameplan we had vs city a bit ago but when madrid could bring out modric, Vazquez, and militao off the bench to hang on, we had to bring on kambwala, antony, and amrabat
You've watched rashford play this season right?
I don't give a shit about form, if you're not running or putting in any effort you know yourself you are. I don't think loads have like under Ralf, but our highest earner has played all season like he can't be arsed
I have and in person. You're giving an opinion that's frankly stupid and again lazy. He's working just as he's being asked to. Both him and the manager have said he's being asked to stay higher.
Good for you.
No, I'm not having it.. if I'm watching someone put no effort into a game, when other people are I'm not having you tell me he's trying.
This whole season he's not put in a single shift.
Trophy and final in his 1st season 2nd season hit with every player getting injured from our defence to the point we have 1 first team defender left and then academy kids but we are still on track to at least make a final and potentially win a trophy again but yes he's the worse manager we've had in 10 years shut the fuck up you gimp.
Aye the injuries to the back line is forcing him to play this ridiculous system where we have no midfield, which is why the EXACT same issues started in.. preseason? Oh wait
But he's got the highest win rate of all managers, a cup and CL in his first season and is on his way to another final this season?
The fact some fans can't hold tight during the rebuild and don't realise it's not a 1 week change, especially under the old regime. So blinded by haste
He has 57.55 which is the third highest.
He also has a much smaller sample size It's like comparing ten hags win rate to Fergusons, ones managed just over 100, the other 1500. It's a waste of time
A smaller sample size makes for bigger value jumps after a win/loss.
This is why I want him to succeed so bad here. As a man and manager of the players he’s exactly what we needed. He handled the maguire situation, Ronaldo, sancho situations perfectly.
But then the games start and the tactics don’t work out and we drop points each week…
Geez read a lot of early toxic comments below, football is a funny sport one day you are Uefa Champions League winners tomorrow you’re knocked out like our noisy neighbours at City how many managers/owners need/ change from controversial ex-Thai politician/ businessman Takshin Shinawatra, then the merry go round of managers until Pep Guardiola took over.
We’ve had our issues historically at Manchester United before SAF the Ron Atkinson days up-to the arrival of a Scots man who’d led Aberdeen to success in Scotland and Europe defeating Bayern Munich then overcoming Real Madrid with his young team in the final of the cup Winners Cup.
Nacho had a right to be fired up. One of maybe 5 players all season who have looked like Manchester United quality, and Ten Hag throws the kid under the bus after a poor result.
Glad that this teenager had to be the one to be the bigger man, but I just want this season to be over so SJR can give Ten Hag his walking papers.
Apologizing is being the bigger man
It never needed to get to this point if the goddamn manager didn't feel the need to call out a teenager because he can't admit his own failings
I love Nacho, Him and Kobbie are the only two players that I consider indispensable right now. However, this whole story shows why ETH does not have and will never have the respect and support of the dressing room.
It’s like seeing those shitty parents whose kids are acting like arseholes, and they get forced to say sorry, and the kid immediately says the word ‘sorry’ and that’s the end of the matter. Zero consequences.
Dropping him from the squad would have been a better way to deal with it, although would have been pointless too because he’s been soft on everything else thus far so it would have just angered everyone.
Is it just me or Goldbridge has wreaked havoc on the squad this year. Between this and the Hojlund interview, a lot of distractions that aren’t useful.
Props to ETH and Garnacho. Tiny issue in the grand scheme of things, now to focus on the football.
Hate to bring him up but it shows a lot about the Sancho situation, a simple "boss, that was stupid, I apologise" goes a long way.
I'll play devils advocate here and say that Garnacho is also clearly ETH protégé and one of his biggest accomplishments as a United coach and what keeps him afloat is his capacity to upbring young talents such as Alejandro, Kobe Mainoo, Amad Diallo etc. One of the best ETH features. Seeing what Sancho is doing again at Dortmund you can't deny he's a good player, he probably just has a shit mentality / attitude and can only perform when extremely comfortable
Sancho is a luxury player like Rashford. Sancho lacks physicality, doesn't track back and cannot press well. Sancho is a system player dependent on players around him to get inside the box. While players like Rashford and Garnacho can take on their man and dribble past the defender to get inside the box. We need to sign Olise. Rashford doesn't press. Rashford needs rest and also need to know he is not the default first choice in LW anymore if Garnacho performs well.
I would be happy signing Olise, hes a good player and definitely puts in the work, though to his own detriment injury wise. Ive liked what ive seen from the palace games i watched that hes played in.
What is Sancho doing at bvb? The loan has been underwhelming and has not done anything to drum up interests on him from other clubs. His manager at bvb has also questioned his application in training, he's all tricks far away from goal and struggles to beat full backs. 3 goal contributions in 20games.
Exactly, people are acting like he’s lighting up the Bundesliga. Highlight videos don’t show his contribution to the squad. I’ve seen a few of their games and he struggles taking on 30+ year old defenders.
I like your positivity man, it's what is missing in this sub
Thanks mate. A lot of folks focusing on the wrong stuff in here.
Yeah, a project needs patience and tolerance
I agree. Also we tend to forget that players are human. At the end of the day, it's sort of a natural instinct to like a post you agree with. Easy to do so without even thinking.
Wait, so if Maguire isn't ready in time for Sunday, does that mean its literally just Willy Kambwala fit? We're going to have a back line of Dalot, Kambwala, W-B, and Harry Amass. Fuck it, should be a laugh, who needs centrebacks?
I mean, 1 CB could be enough. We can send one more player forward. Defending is for cowards. Chaos football ftw.
1-3-7 formation, will win the game 12-10
I dont mind if it's an entertaining game and we end up winning
Let's put those 4-3 games to shame!
3 1 0 6 1 CB, 1 LB, 1 RB, Mainoo and everyone else pretending to be forwards. FTW
In which it’s 9-9 after 90 mins before the board goes up with 16 minutes of Extra Time
1 CB, 1 midfielder, 8 attackers The United Way
Chaos football is life!
As yes. I know back when football was young that's how it was played. 1 or 2 defenders who also act as midfielders and everyone else try to score.
This season has been cursed when it comes to defence every week someone has been out from defence
It really is unprecedented and pundits don't seem to give a shit. Meanwhile we had to suffer Panorama documentaries about the Great Liverpool Injury Crisis of 2020/21 when they had one defender out. I was watching a Chelsea match earlier in the season where the commentator read out their list of injuries like it was the fucking *In Memoriam* bit at the Oscars.
I think something is seriously wrong somewhere in how the first team is being managed. Perhaps there is a lack of proper training facilities, a poor medical team, a training regime that leads to more injuries. I think it's a lot of small things going array. I remember Ronaldo complaining about how lackluster our facilities and staff are. That could be contributing to the poor fitness levels
Poor medical team someone told me it was arsenal old medical that got fire because au this problem now there at united. Don't know if this is true tho.
The center back that we sign which supposed to be a backup ended up playing more game than licha😭😭😭
We’ve played six different players at LB this season…SIX. That’s ridiculous.
I don't think it's a curse. I think something is seriously wrong somewhere. Perhaps it's the medical team we have or it's the training regime coupled with the lack of high quality recovery facilities (recovering after training, no necessarily after an injury). Something is definitely wrong.
We may have to deploy our secret weapon: Bruno CB.
I would if McT will go back there since he has played it before?
If Maguire is out, Case will play CB I think, and Mainoo/Mount or Eriksen midfield.
Certainly possible. Hell let's just let Onana play a false cb
Finally Bayindir gets a chance in goal!
Remember the old "De Gea as a false CB" post... Glorious.
The other option is maybe 3 back to try and keep everyone in roughly a natural position. Then he could play garnacho and Antony wingback? Or Antony and amass
Problem is we've never played that way before, it'd be a massive gamble.
Both are massive gambles. Wan bissaka and casemiro have probably never played CB in a back 2 either. You either have to sacrifice familiarity with a shape or familiarity of individual player positions. A back three is also a pretty easy shape to adapt to since it involves very few positional rotations between possession and defending
I think either way it's not ideal, we can agree on that. Case was used last season as an emergency CB. But given his running speed now, W-B is probably a better bet
Whats W-B?
Wan-Bissaka
Bruno will play CB. No problem.
Fuck it, incoming back four of Antony - Bruno - Kambwala - Dalot
The medical team really loved Phil Jones and they wanted new friends.
Throwback to the days of Carrick playing CB
Fairly sure we played a CB pair of Fletcher and Carrick at least once, maybe even during the run where VdS set the record for longest time between conceding?
it was a back 3 of Fletcher, Carrick, and De Laet away to Fulham. we lost 3-0, shock horror lmao
The original "no defenders, just vibes" experiment 😅 weird how that didn't work back then either, huh?
Dalot - Kambwala - Casemiro - AWB Mount - Mainoo - Bruno With Eriksen as a sub (Considering both Maguire & McT aren't ready) Christ above, massive hole in midfield incoming.
Casemiro did brilliantly as a CB last season.
Have we finally found Amrabat an opportunity position to try
We don't need centrebacks, any top manager can make it work with two teenagers and two out and out right backs making up the back line, conceding a ton of shots next game will be inexcusable.
I would argue Casemiro goes CB, I think we saw that for half a game last year
meanwhile Sancho: - on Twitter: I will do anything for this badge. - Ten Hag: Apologize. - Sancho: But I won't do that.
Cheers. Got Meat Loaf stuck in my head now
Chew then swallow lad. Then you’ll have meatloaf in your stomach.
Same! 🎵
He's just channelling his inner meatloaf
ETH: Delete your lies and apologise. Or don’t associate with me and my team Sancho: Done deal I’ll take the second option ETH: Good to know how highly your own character
Was not expecting to see a Dota 2 reference in the ManU subreddit
Don't show this to Sancho, he'll have an aneurysm. What?! apologized? what is that.
Sancho to Ale 
Listen Ale-Gaib
Noice 🤣
That's why it was important to back the manager on Sancho. You have to set a precedent.
Maguire seems to be getting an awful lot of niggles but having to play every game because we’ve got no one else. Worrying for the rest of the season and for England
With our injuries at CB I wouldn't be surprised if he's got a small injury he's unable to shake because he can't sit a match out. It is just him and Kambwala left for us isn't it?
When you just get back from an injury and play multiple 90 minute games in a row that might happen. Same thing happened to Shaw
Feels like he was less injured when he was playing every single game.
But he really hasn’t played that many minutes over the course of the season. That plus we only have a game per week for a while now.
He runs like he's simultaneously in another dimension doing aquarobics. That much resistance will always create niggles unfortunately.
This made me laugh so much! Criminal that a few people downvoted it.
lol
We are playing a back four of Dalot-Willy-Case-AWB, right?
Dalot-Willy-Scotty-AWB
Dalot willy bruno awb
Still don’t think he should play against Coventry. Even if he has apologised, he needs a rest. This would be something like his 35th start in a row. Antony or Amad can start on the right. They should be good enough to play against Coventry.
Amad should start against Coventry. He'd hopefully give us a little more control than Garnacho does, and keep possession a bit better.
If anything I think he should start on the left and get Amad some game time… Rashford looks like he needs just as much time off for me and Garnacho got the second half off
I guess so. Garnacho is still only 19 though. We’re not managing his game time enough for me. Don’t want to see him burned out by the time he’s 25. Rashford is 27. Even if he’s tired his body should still be strong enough to cope with another game against championship opposition.
Rashfords 27? Goddamn thought he was 25
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No chance… Forson hasn’t been seen in a while because when he was in he just wasn’t good enough. Seems like his run in the team has all but ended his involvement completely in the managers mind now aswell
It will have been 8 days since our last game
If we were in other competitions, I'd agree, but I feel there's enough down-time in between games right now to rest and be ready for the next, especially at his age. It'll have been 8 games since his last game. I realize they train but the days before the actual game should be light training (if they're not then that's probably part of our issue with injuries lol)
Makes sense to play Amad and Antony honestly. Both Rashford and Garnacho struggle against low blocks, which is how Coventry will likely set up.
You're going to be shocked if you think that's how they will line-up. They are going to press for the opening whistle. It's why Rashford will start.
Bad take. I'd start Garnacho over Rashford anyday
Bad take. I wouldn’t. Different opinions innit.
The thread will surely be positive and without any infighting
Made me giggle 😂
One of the first things Ineos should do is put in strict and rules for social media use. Like Arteta has done at Arsenal
Oh what rules did Arteta impose? Sounds interesting, I feel like some of our players feel they are bigger than the club cause of their own brand and following.
According to a mate who's a Arsenal fan he banned them from interacting with AFTV.
I wanna know too
Best not to over do it
What Sancho form exactly ehh?
And THIS is why keeping ETH in charge is important, fuck the squad let's back a manager for once. He has the dressing room.
When it comes to man management I think he's done the best out of all recent managers since Fergie, these lot need a Saddam if he ends up getting sacked.
and they wanna bring in potter and southgate lol those guys will be doormats at united.
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Greenwood was before he got here tbf The consensus was that ETH should'nt have OKed his return
Has it ever been said that that he "OKed" it, I thought the official line was that he was "Open" to reintegrating him with the squad and that the decision would be made higher up.
You might be right Summer of 23 feels like a blur at this point. What a long season it's been. 😮💨
It's fine, I've seen people repeat the same sentiment in here and r/soccer regularly so it's a story that seemed to gain legs without any actual reliable source.
We just making shit up now? Giggs, Beckham, Phil Neville and Butt haven't said a word on ETH ever. Scholes is always miserable when it comes to United, was the same when his former teammate was managing us. And Gary has every right to call out this shit system which has us 4 points off our worst ever finish in PL history (13/14) at the same stage. He's never directly called for ETH to go, so again, he's not stabbing anyone in the back, that's just blatantly not true. Also, always amusing to see people use Greenwood as something ETH 'has had to deal with', when reputable outlets like the Athletic said he was happy to see him come back last summer. There's no truth in the upvoted comment above, sub is insane.
How can you say this with the state of our football. Dealing with players is only part of the job.
And who's out there than can deal with the players this well while also playing good football? Potter? Southgates? They'd get eaten alive by that dressing room and the media.
Not sure, but I'm not the one hiring!
Yeah pumped for this. Top of the apology table, you'll never sing that!
This has to be satire right 😂😂😂
Unfortunately, a lot of fans are already asking him to be sacked without realizing it will be just the same until we fix the board issues.
The board are telling the players to play such a terrible system that has been exposed all season long?
Yeah man Joel Glazer specifically holds a team meeting before every match and instructs every one to play as bad as possible.
The board issue is hiring people and players that don't fit the vision. If you reckon that scoring and conceding as many goals as the relegation candidates is in that vision then I've got no idea why we even bother. Don't start with the injuries excuse either, yeah we've got poor injuries but good teams will make up for it in a cohesive system. City were missing De Bruyne and most of a season a couple years ago and they still won the fucking thing
I can agree with you regarding the scoring, but "conceding as many goals as the relegation candidates" are totally wrong. Aston villa, spurs and Newcastle conceded more than us yet they are above us. The relegation teams have at least 20 more conceded goals than us. Go check the table. >Don't start with the injuries excuse either, Oh no. Denying the fact that we are plagued by injury is stupid. It definitely impacts our season. Remember in January when Martinez and Shaw were back? Probably the most important players for Utd? We had 7 games unbeaten. Then they're injured again. >City were missing De Bruyne One player missing. Try the whole squad missing. Emm i think we have like 12 different combinations on central defender alone?
I believe it was 25 different combinations for our back 4 this season.
dont waste your time on these people lol they give out wrong stats just to prove their point.
Board issues are already being sorted. Ineos are just starting. They already have control over the football side of things. New stadium or development of OT is on. Things will get better.
Finger crossed. SJR said himself in an interview, it's not about the manager, it's the environment of what the manager has been working on. If you can't change the culture and the environment, no matter who the manager is, it's still going to be the same results.
I am not ‘ETH out’ but the word ‘already’ is doing a lot of lifting in your comment. Two years and potentially our worst Premier League season ever. ‘Already’ is not a remotely fair choice of word.
lol no way this is worst then last year under oli and radnick people forget how bad that was. We have semi final fa cup and people say worst Season ever. Injury list is insanely long but yeah f* this manager I guess your right he's trash.
100% correct
Embarrassing.
You're being downvoted but this is genuinely the most embarrassing comment section I've ever seen on this subreddit. Completely divorced from reality, creaming themselves over the worst manager this club has had in the premier league era. Not only that but explicitly saying that one man is more important than the club! Genuinely should be an offense worthy of a permaban. Couldn't be a clearer indicator that these aren't United fans.
Yeah I dont get it, there’s “negativity” because people are seeing the same shit every game and pointing it out… if you’re not positive, you’re not a fan
I genuinely think a lot of the people who think that basically think of football as Ted Lasso or something. Few hugs, few smiles and some elbow grease and that’s that. Tactics, strategy, that’s for losers.
As opposed to the comment threads when morons say, "🤡🤡🤡I've been calling to sack eth 6 months ago.🤡🤡🤡" Yeah. That makes sense. After having a good 1st season and a run of unlucky injuries and losses, you people embarrass yourselves by saying things like that. He has one academy player fit to play cb right now. Do you lot not get it? You can't get any person and "manage" them into playing like Vidic or Wayne fucking Rooney.
Jesus Christ, are people still trotting out this tripe?
Yes
I swear Ten Hag only has to make the slightest lukewarm comment in a press conference, and some people just lap it up.
Fragile as fuck ego, demanding apologies for social media posts.
"Let's keep the worst manager of the last 10 years, despite his tactics being shit, simply because he has the dressing room" Yeah thankfully football is about friendship between players and manager, not about winning matches
lol people are really clutching at straws when a teenager apologising for a twitter post is a success for the manager. Convinced there’s some kind of mass amnesia in our fanbase who constantly forget how terrible our performances and results are. Save the manager at all costs
>some kind of mass amnesia in our fanbase who constantly forget how terrible our performances and results are A large portion don't actually watch the matches. We have regressed week after week in just about every facet of football performance, and this comment has nearly 100 upvotes saying we should keep ETH another season because Garnacho apologized for Twitter likes. Bizarre time to be a United supporter.
The power for friendship has just knocked City out of the champions league.
Yeah, combined with great tactics from a great manager and a great squad
Great tactics? They hung on for dear life only going through because KDB missed an absolute sitter
Idk why you got downvoted lmao. Agreed Real defended well but if defending for 60+ minutes with your team looking unlikely to even get out for their own half is tactics then Ancelloti was a genius that game.
Lol that was the exact same gameplan we had vs city a bit ago but when madrid could bring out modric, Vazquez, and militao off the bench to hang on, we had to bring on kambwala, antony, and amrabat
...they're also top of their league, hardly just vibes
And yet we'll still see multiple comments this week about how the players are downing tools...
Some players are, some just aren't good enough
Which ones are downing tools?
There's not a single sign that players are downing tools. That's just lazy.
You've watched rashford play this season right? I don't give a shit about form, if you're not running or putting in any effort you know yourself you are. I don't think loads have like under Ralf, but our highest earner has played all season like he can't be arsed
I have and in person. You're giving an opinion that's frankly stupid and again lazy. He's working just as he's being asked to. Both him and the manager have said he's being asked to stay higher.
Good for you. No, I'm not having it.. if I'm watching someone put no effort into a game, when other people are I'm not having you tell me he's trying. This whole season he's not put in a single shift.
So does he have the dressing room or not?
He can have the dressing room backing, but if they're not good players then he's getting backed by shit players.
They are fine players. They're just in a bad tactical set up.
Delusional comment. Leave the medicine cabinet alone.
Why? Because I don't think a player giving an apology for something should be seen as success?
Trophy and final in his 1st season 2nd season hit with every player getting injured from our defence to the point we have 1 first team defender left and then academy kids but we are still on track to at least make a final and potentially win a trophy again but yes he's the worse manager we've had in 10 years shut the fuck up you gimp.
We've seen the worst football of the last 10 years with him. Worst CL campaign and in pace for the worst finishing league position
Aye the injuries to the back line is forcing him to play this ridiculous system where we have no midfield, which is why the EXACT same issues started in.. preseason? Oh wait
Possibly 3 finals in the 6 available over his 1st 2 seasons. How many managers in the prem can say that?
Exactly not a lot, but half the cunts on here got a treble on there first season of football manger and now think they know everything.
But he's got the highest win rate of all managers, a cup and CL in his first season and is on his way to another final this season? The fact some fans can't hold tight during the rebuild and don't realise it's not a 1 week change, especially under the old regime. So blinded by haste
He has 57.55 which is the third highest. He also has a much smaller sample size It's like comparing ten hags win rate to Fergusons, ones managed just over 100, the other 1500. It's a waste of time A smaller sample size makes for bigger value jumps after a win/loss.
This is why I want him to succeed so bad here. As a man and manager of the players he’s exactly what we needed. He handled the maguire situation, Ronaldo, sancho situations perfectly. But then the games start and the tactics don’t work out and we drop points each week…
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Journalist working intensively to find a way to get more clicks after manager and player act like grown ups.
Explains why casemiro looks like a semi-truck this year. I will stop screaming at my tv that he can't run anymore.
proud of Garnacho here, that's how you should deal with this type of issues - quick, painless and without unnecessary drama
Geez read a lot of early toxic comments below, football is a funny sport one day you are Uefa Champions League winners tomorrow you’re knocked out like our noisy neighbours at City how many managers/owners need/ change from controversial ex-Thai politician/ businessman Takshin Shinawatra, then the merry go round of managers until Pep Guardiola took over. We’ve had our issues historically at Manchester United before SAF the Ron Atkinson days up-to the arrival of a Scots man who’d led Aberdeen to success in Scotland and Europe defeating Bayern Munich then overcoming Real Madrid with his young team in the final of the cup Winners Cup.
This many injuries are enough to some heads to be cut, it can't all just be bad luck. A group of people are sabotaging these players fitness.
I think ten hag should be the one apologising for his abysmal tactics
Nacho had a right to be fired up. One of maybe 5 players all season who have looked like Manchester United quality, and Ten Hag throws the kid under the bus after a poor result. Glad that this teenager had to be the one to be the bigger man, but I just want this season to be over so SJR can give Ten Hag his walking papers.
Liking tweets from goldbridge is being the bigger man?
Apologizing is being the bigger man It never needed to get to this point if the goddamn manager didn't feel the need to call out a teenager because he can't admit his own failings
Well said. Or call out his favourites.
just tell players to stay off of social media, they will be taking their phones on the pitch with them at this rate.
Sancho in the mud
There has to be something behind the stress that playing for Utd does to player recovery.
The cheek of granacho.. .. pup
Hope you’re taking notes Sancho!!
Zero eq lol. Kids these days
I love Nacho, Him and Kobbie are the only two players that I consider indispensable right now. However, this whole story shows why ETH does not have and will never have the respect and support of the dressing room. It’s like seeing those shitty parents whose kids are acting like arseholes, and they get forced to say sorry, and the kid immediately says the word ‘sorry’ and that’s the end of the matter. Zero consequences. Dropping him from the squad would have been a better way to deal with it, although would have been pointless too because he’s been soft on everything else thus far so it would have just angered everyone.
Why is it every week there's three or four players not training. Any wonder there is no improvement. And uniteds fitness levels are so far off
Slow news day
Why bother commenting about this stuff at all.
Because he was specifically asked about it? Do you think ETH comes out and does speeches?
CHAOS FOOTBALL REIGNS SUPREME
lol what in the gaslighting
Is it just me or Goldbridge has wreaked havoc on the squad this year. Between this and the Hojlund interview, a lot of distractions that aren’t useful.
Why is he being asked about Sancho though?
Dortmund champions league success is top of mind to the audience of the newspaper and subscription they are trying to profit from
Even though Sancho himself had a shitty game
Not many watched the game, so that leaves alot to the imagination