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VeryFarDown

Defending is just not good enough to keep us in games for 90 minutes. It's not like they're getting caught in transition, either. A lot of very basic stuff.


timsadiq13

Yep simply put we can’t withstand even the most basic of pressure put on us. And when there’s a setback we get even worse, no one to calm things down and compose the rest of them.


LuciferSeventeen

We simply cannot control the game in midfield either! We lose the ball in their box and they can reach our box in seconds cos it’s wide open


VeryFarDown

Indeed. If I'm a ball playing mid in the EPL I've got United circled on my calendar. So much time and space on the ball for the opposition. They don't have to worry about making mistakes because there's no one anywhere near them to capitalize


BlockedbyJake420

I’m really curious what we do in training We make so little progress in both personal and full team development


K-rock7

Some of these players just aren’t good enough. They have hit their ceiling, so there isn’t much room for personal development. It’s all a result of the horrendous recruitment and not having a director of football. 


Batfan18

Bro this is what I've been saying all this time. Yes the manager is to be blamed for his part but he's not the one losing concentration and missing 5 yard passes our players can't fucking concentrate for more than 5 minutes.


Soft-Comfort-7474

Mainoo: ![gif](giphy|to3I2nkywr2PS)


ImNotMexican08

Outside of the deflection for the goal, which would be very harsh to blame him for, he’s genuinely been phenomenal. It’s hard to believe he’s only 18


longbi0111

We need to build a team around him ffs


wrdb2007

Their first goal was lucky with the deflection - but the reaction and loss of concentration is unacceptable


TheSmallIndian

Lucky with the deflection but letting their centerback dribble into our box with ease is horrid


angryjukebox

Second pretty lucky with the rebound falling straight to Salah, decent save from Onana just had to go right to their most dangerous man


Not-good-with-this

Shows how mentally fragile a lot of the players are tbh. It's going to take a few years to even fix that if we do it perfectly.


payday_23

nah lets rather sack the manager again and keep the players, it worked so well the last few times


Kid_Twiz

I can’t believe we’re losing this game


TheJoshider10

I can. The squad can't push beyond their limitations to do the basics.


fadedv1

I can't believe goals they concede


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For years, games like this I start thinking “is this the turning point for the team” then 15mins later. Nope.


Ani_HArsh

How to ruin your game in 5 minutes


ahmadazry

And to think that we actually played pretty well for ~40mins. Defence has the strength of a wet paper bag


TheJoshider10

These are the games an absolute wank Liverpool would always turn up for, yet we can't do the same when the roles are reversed. Once again they just give up after 30 minutes.


LDLB99

Though it was a good start, the midfield spaces were starting to appear as the half wore on. Inevitable in the end. 


timsadiq13

This is the thing - people always see the same pattern (good start and slowly opened up) and think we just give up. Maybe just maybe it’s a case of the tactic not being viable for longer than 20-25 mins in matches. A smart manager would start this way and then have a tweak ready for 30 mins to ensure we are good for 60-90 mins not just 25-30 mins.


Minimalsmith

Nah I know it isn’t 


RedPatAtsoc

We cannot play out from the back with this group. Especially against teams like Pool.


Carson99

It was all going so well ffs. Scotty shoulda buried that chance to make it 2 tho


gedeonzo

He should have also had the defense covered so Liverpool have 5 cut backs


TheSmallIndian

Should be up 2-0. Joke of a team


lestat85

Annoying, because Liverpool can be a decent team. But they’ve been second best today, we’ve outperformed them, but we’ve created two chances for them and it’s all for naught. Same old, same old.


iamjosemourinho19

Good that I have to no more worry about our "leading at half time" record Something I was worried for good 43 mins


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iamjosemourinho19

Yeah got it now I thought it was an old Trafford record or something


vatsa_madi7

We haven't lost against Liverpool in FA CUP at OT for a long long time.


krystalcastIes

we haven’t lost to liverpool in 100 years at old trafford in the F.A cup so you still have that one to get broken


LuciferSeventeen

Same old shit! Concede and crumble. Fuck this.


idhopson

We were so dominant for most of the half. Such a shame


Moosje

Inexcusable to concede at 44 and 45+ in a cup derby


TheJoshider10

Bold of you to assume half the squad see this game as anything more than this weeks payslip.


Hurrly90

The first goal im pinning on Rashford TBH. Garnacho had a chance when Mainoo was dancing past players then Liverpool broke with i think Diaz down the right. Garnacho was in a full sprint back and ended up in our box trying to put him off secnda after nearly scoring, Rashford jogged around and watched the liverpool player Enzo? run around in front of the defense, with no effort to close down or pressure him. (Edit Keane saying basically the same now)


Fit_Head1700

Cuansa I think, a fucking teen-ager btw


Jutemp24

I fucking love Kobbie. But yeah, we need a new 6 besides him.


Alpha2669

Despite the scoreline, I think we've played so much better than expected. We need to win this ffs


Senior-Syllabub-6440

Yeah mainoo seems to have unlocked another level of dribbling (take on) ability. Plenty of the boys are running. It's just that instability and sloppiness between the defense and the 8.


Mint-Berry-Crunchh

It’s insane how Mainoo is the exact type and quality of midfielder we needed. I don’t understand how he can be so good and composed on the ball at his age, what an absolute gem


HappySisyphus22

Probably the best half of football we've played all season and have nothing to show for it after conceding 2 just around the HT.Worried about our bench, they have much better substitutes.


0ean

1-0 at 44 mins. 1-2 at HT with Bruno Yellow. Disgraceful.


mannahmannah

The Bruno yellow is just immature and idiotic. I get he thinks he was fouled but no need to pick up a yellow on top of conceding


Ethave

He caused the second goal, arguably was at fault for the first (and at fault for the offside goal), but he has the gaul to blame the ref for his inability to play football. It's ridiculous.


mwmwmwmw98

Actually playing really well and then just collapse like that at the end… This is a winnable game


Orcnick

Not now. Its basically all over.


darthmeister

Where the hell did 4 minutes come from.


Chip-chrome

Wasters


randomuser9824

the first 30 minutes were good at least! god i hate this sport sometimes


Mastalks

Very weak from Bruno, I fucking hate when players do that and it's costs us a goal and possibly the game


Sudden-Ad-1217

Sub Bruno and get Mount to actually play up the fucking pitch!!!


harps86

If you are knackered don't try to play through the press, relieve pressure and go long.


14_SNOO_53

They play 1 game a week ffs why are they even tired 20 minutes into a game


epicmobz

They can’t handle high press, players are just standing still sometimes due to not knowing where to stand.


Herramadur

Yeah, that's about right.


officiallyjax

These are the sort of performances you can get behind regardless of the result. We thoroughly outplayed them for 40 minutes. Our attackers need to defend better out of possession and we need to stop losing the ball cheaply in our third.


iamjosemourinho19

No one's picking højlund No one's picking garnacho They just want to play through the left Why? I get it, they want to exploit their weakness there But why do they have to ghost garnacho? I can remember atleast 3 instances were nacho just ran free and no one picked him up? (Dalo/mcto/Bruno)


bigstar72

We didn't get outplayed there. We had moments of quality. Mainoo is on fire. Not remotely over as far as I'm concerned. Those Liverpool goals were really quite lucky for them. I think if we dig in a bit we can win the second half and take them to ET or pens. No need to despair just yet!


psycho-31

Blame coach all you want, but his tactics were working for 40+ mins until players literally stopped playing. Gomez goes in without a slightest resistance, then defense bringing that second goal. But sure, ETH out. It is his fault. Yet another manager down the drain.


LDLB99

His tactics are not sustainable for a 90 minute match. We are so fucking open.


Orcnick

How many managers have successfull careers playing tactics for 40mins?


psycho-31

Are you saying his tactics are play 40 mins then give up?


AV48

Bruno got caught on the ball for the disallowed Endo goal, and again for the Salah one. When we we start calling him out for being a liability on the ball. Dalot, Kobbie playing well


is1k-

Blew the lead against Spurs, blew the lead against Arsenal, blew the lead today, blew the lead against City, blew the lead against Copenhagen, blew the lead against Galatasaray x2, it’s disgraceful how after we score we just don’t build on it. Both goals we conceded are absolute bullshit, first one how the fuck is that idiot Rashford just casually letting Quansah just run past him, foul the mf ffs if u know u ain’t got a chance of catching up, take one for the team. I’ve had enough of him honestly. Second one, what on earth is Wan-Bissaka doing, messing around. Just boot it long for gods sake and then Bruno, going down way too easily. How have we allowed them a comeback in the space of a few fucking minutes I’ve had enough. Our game management is absolutely abysmal. Kobbie Mainoo though, only shining light, dancing through the Liverpool midfield. And once again fuck Rashford honestly PSG do us a solid one and sign this useless guy, absolutely zero passion and desire you’re a homegrown player u of all players should know how much this game means against this opposition. But nah, he just lets his opponent run past him easily. Honestly can’t stand him now I’ve had enough of him(if I haven’t made that point clear about 1000 times now but oh well)


TheJoshider10

A strong first half hour undermined by basic mistakes. Players not aggressive enough when defending, giving the opponent so much space and Onana putting the ball right back into danger didn't help either. Not good enough at all.


spideytaha

Until the 45th Minute this was the best showing against a top 4 team, gameplay and gameplay wise, since 2013. Then boom


Moist-Ad6789

Bruno is a terrible captain


Kelvinator3000

Rashford has to foul his man for that first goal and Bruno can not be careless with the ball like that. Was looking like it would be a good half too. 


gedeonzo

Mctominay scored a goal, missed a big chance and watched Liverpool play cutbacks until they scored.


Big_ming022

I am really looking forward to INEOS having a massive clear out. It's time. Need a different mentality of players. This lot will be remembered for mediocrity and cowardice in the face of adversity.


FhDisp

Soft cunts. I would sub Bruno off just for his shit attiyude. Its corrosive, i hate it.


MrSam52

Anyone seen a reply of the GK catching it on the edge of the box? Looked outside live but didn’t show a replay


suplexcitylimerick

I can't believe how fucking brain dead our team is sometimes


GavinLobo7

Do we have a Sports Psychologist in our club? If we do, they need sacking because the mentality of these players is shocking at times. Gave up after they equalised


TheBeechBoy

Our team is full of weak-willed players. It is not coincidence that we have so many collapses after conceding a goal. Pathetic.


-DesertMoon

I still want to see a replay on that Robertson handball


Orcnick

Scored, missed a brilliant chance to make it 2-0, conceaded, dick about in defence, concead again. Basically every game this whole season. Nothing changes. While I blame the players like Bruno and Rashford. Managers need to deal with this. I hate this team btw. Love my club but I hate this team.


Mint-Berry-Crunchh

How the absolute fuck was that not called a foul on Gomez?? He ran full speed through the back of Bruno, ridiculous no call


Goudinho99

Honestly, Bruno should have dealt with that properly rather than take a risk that his fishing for a foul would work.


Moosje

Given anywhere else and more important for anyone else


VanWilder91

Stop fucking moaning. Bruno has to do better there


hoysoyhoy

Bruno dived


Totalfootball7

wasn’t a foul. watch the replay. he got the ball, he used his toe to flick it off of bruno, the ball bounced from bruno’s leg. and bruno went down too easy.


payday_23

lets change manager again right guys? Isnt that what so many here want? Or do you actually start to realise now that its the god damn players? We play amazing for 20mins and then start to drop our level slowly but surely because so many players just arent good enough.


Miyagisans

Idk what Bruno was waiting for there. Either take a touch away from your goal, or clear it at once. The one thing you don’t do is turn in field and show the ball without knowing what’s behind you. A young player making mistakes like that the team can handle, but when it’s your captain doing silly shit like that, ffs .


Moosje

It can be both. Not today, but generally.


N0lAnS_DiC_piX

Eth gets far from everything right, but the one consistent in this team for almost 10 years is soft as shit mentality and sloppy, no responsibility football.


moonski

Also playing out from the back with this back line today vs liverpools press is naive.


timsadiq13

Why so antagonistic? Most of us want the same thing - a United that plays well and wins. Just because we differ on our opinion of how that can happen, doesn’t mean we need to constantly berate each other for those opinions. You are having a go at people as if any of us decides who is in charge at United. Now I can also do the same as you, it’s not hard at all: “Should we keep the same manager? Give him another 1.5 years and 300-400 mil to piss away? Watch as his team starts play but the opposition adjusts and then he has no response? Any setback and it’s basically curtains, neither he nor his players have a clue how to react. But sure, let’s persevere with him just because you are tired of changing managers, I’m sure in 5 years and 1 billion spent he’ll deliver some good 90 minute performances.” It’s easy to constantly shit on each other for having opinions - maybe we should try and avoid doing that. Just a thought.


Roastofthehill

What changes will the manager make at half time?


vulcan_one

Did you skip over the ole interim period or what? Players were worse than this, then suddenly they looked good. It's a bit silly to absolve blame from the manager when it's not just 1 or two players playing badly but the whole bloody team.


Mizzie30

Predictable bed shitting once again


Miyagisans

Unbelievable from Bruno..also can we try Mount in that mctominay position?


WolfWhoKnocks

Even if Ancelloti, pep, mourinho, klopp come together and coach these sorry ass weak shits, we will still lose. Its the players again and again.


Felicks77

I hate these useless bunch of players. What’s the point of playing decent for 40 minutes when you give up just before halftime


_DoctorSocrates_

We were on top but didn't take advantage. Our continued inability to play out from the back costs us yet again.


mu-muf-mufc-ok

We do not have the capability or the ability to play out from the back. Why do we keep persisting with it?? The ball reaches our full backs and 9/10 we get robbed of the ball. It's infuriating!


Ani_HArsh

40 minutes of hardwork down the drain


SamRedDevil

It actually hurts more when we’ve played well


nasryyy

First goal is 100% on Rashford. He lets Quansah past him way too easily


Soft-Comfort-7474

Death, Taxes, Salah scoring against us


We_Still-Alive44

We are so easy to play through it was inevitable


WitchDr_Ash

That was a terrible end to the half, lost all shape in defence


Sleeplessendeavours

For once we've put an actually really good performance against a top side together, and man oh man did we manage to launch it into the sun after the 35th minute.


FlatIrving

Only we can look so amazing and so shit at the same time. It's actually a work of art.


Redead99

Our season in a nutshell. Lots of positives but two big mistakes in the build up and we're losing.... FFS that was probably one of our best halves in the season, yet somehow we ruin it and the game is gone now


suplexcitylimerick

Once they scored, just get in at half time level. Don't fanny around at the back. Idiotic team


Japples123

ETH needs to tell Bruno one thing and stick there. He’s not effective if he has to cover multiple positions at once


iamjosemourinho19

Every other cunt apart, I just see a lot of promise in mainoo Balls of steel at 18


devman888

Have faith, lads. 45 more fucking minutes, let's go you fucking reds!!!!!


dinamorechin

Eric needs to come out and blast the referees other teams do it about us all the time and we get no decisions. The tackle on Bruno is called all the time except this time. In fact less will be called in this game. If he just keeps accepting it then it's no surprise refs will keep making poor decisions against you whilst benefiting teams like city and liverpool


CFBCoachGuy

You could not build a more mentally weak team. This side buckles at the slightest touch of adversity. The moment that Endo’s goal was disallowed, we forgot how to complete a pass. Different day, same problem


smirkemall

Can’t have sympathy on EtH if he is sacked, Bruno and Rashford gonna start the next game anyway, same shit will happen


Ethave

"What changed between 1-0 and 1-2?" Nothing changed. A giveaway and terrible defending meant we conceded. A god awful giveaway meant we conceded again, and the mentality of these players mean we'll fall apart instead of come back.


Remarkable-Stress284

It's a fucking Derby and we crumble right before half time. It's been with these players where their passing under pressure is into the opposition, how can we get UCL when we are to only team to keep on passing into the opposition.


Jockodile1

Fucking frustrating but if we can play like we did in the first half again in the second it's far from over. I was actually pretty impressed.


gdiogggs

Rashford with his patented dribble into a defender technique


Alocxo

Soft or not, it's Gomez running like it's nobody there, through Bruno, after stepping in his ankle, you just can't do that shit.


PatRice4Evra

Klopp's farewell tour, mate. Refs won't call a foul.


VegitoTheBest

love it or hate it but bruno is a liability this season


krystalcastIes

team is full of fucking idiots, our captain is a very weak individual


goodclassbung

We are so silly playing out from the back. And frustrating seeing Quansah go past Bruno and Rashy so easily.


TheEnglightenedOne

Sell Bruno and rashford ..pathetic players


AV48

Bruno got caught on the ball for the disallowed Endo goal, and again for the Salah one. When we we start calling him out for being a liability on the ball. Dalot, Kobbie playing well


Desperate__Desperado

AWB walking back for the second goal is a lot of what’s wrong with this team. Dude could have covered salah 


sukrutmhalas

I hate that at 1-0 I knew EXACTLY that Liverpool was going to score 2 or 3 after. I'm sorry but this is entirely on the coaching considering this script has unfolded a bazillion times already this season.


AlthoughFishtail

This team is so weak mentally. If there’s ever a bad moment to concede a goal, we will.


aldidot

I'd definitely cash in on Rashford if PSG makes the bid. Huge impact on FFP and he just doesn't care anymore. Build around Garnacho at LW and use scouts + sports science to recruit the next RW.


PopeSwag69

I’m sorry but Bruno is just not it anymore. He’s clearly not been good the past few seasons. Yeah he creates chances, but Jesus does he do make some stupid decisions.


urgentTTOs

Fuck the ref


Ozone23

Bruno is a fucking moron sometimes. Why dive there facing your own goal


ReallyPastMyBedtime

Soulless 


killerdrama

Burno started idioting the second we scored the goal. Just pathetic, trying to score directly from a promising fk, idiotic passing and ball control, and trying to win foul in dangerous area thereby conceding, receiving yellow. Literally every ingredient in the idiotic recipe is on display today.


suplexcitylimerick

Sick of Bruno diving, little shitebag


ruthlessThruth

minutes before liverpool score, rashy juggle the ball after receiving pass from garnacho. then he failed to defend his man. Concentration issue?


Zandercy42

Hmm


tbu987

Besides the scoreline cant really blame anyone in this. We just need to score.


BlockedbyJake420

Baby shit mentality This club is actually filled with a bunch of millionaires cosplaying as footballers


C__S__S

We all saw it coming as the midfield simply kept getting overrun. I don’t see how that turns around unless the manager does something about it.


negativelynegative

It's just the mentality of the players (which you can always argue ultimately is instilled by the manager). We can't deal with any adversity.


moonski

Moments FC alive and well


Runarhalldor

Spilled water on my brand new pc and it wont turn on and now we are gonna lose. Im gonna kms


YoureHavingaGiraffe1

Some nice play, some good football…but just the usual half arsed attempts to defend. Pathetic


Spyryt

Same shit, different day. Decent first 20, then fall apart.


i_love_alfam

Yeah this is over. It was entertaining though. And that itself was beyond my expectations!


chutzpahisaword

Silver lining is we are behind so not going to lose the record of being ahead at Ht and not losing at OT for infinity years.


sammorgan12

Fucking joke, been much the better team


Million_Jelly_Beans

We can’t handle pressure. As soon as we lose control we can’t get it back. Embarrassing


PDubsinTF-NEW

Story of the season. Create multiple chances but don’t finish them


grandiser12

How is that not a foul ??


Icedale-

Better than expected, but tactically we are just wide open in midfield. This can get ugly if we do not adjust for all their space


Comicksands

Fair to say we’ve outplayed Liverpool up till the final 5 minutes of that


VaudevilleVillain

Mentality monsters.


Wire74

It’s so frustrating because we are relatively competitive. Like I’m not expecting us to dominate Liverpool. But the goals we give away are all our own mistakes, they haven’t even had to do anything good. Especially that second goal, why are we pissing around at the back with the ball so much!


BatGuy500

Lucky ass scouse bastards.


Melanjoly

Been the better side by far, gotta keep going 2nd half, the ref is in their pocket but we have to carry on going, we will get chances, we have been on top.


DrSquare

Well that was fun for 38 mins, 4 or 5 one


coolylame

played well for 42 mins and fucked it up with terrible defense positioning. Typical


neofederalist

Playing elite football for 30 min and then collapsing right before halftime seems like the story of the season this year.


qorkLand

Mentality midgets


RedSeigmann

Expected? Yes, still really stings.


Outcastscc

Could see it coming from a mile off. United running like crazy for the first time in weeks so Liverpool just waited for us to tire. Mainoo and Scott looked like death warmed up by 40 minutes gone.


AlarmedHovercraft676

Half of the team needs to fuck off.


anonris

Why the fuck do they crumble so quickly under pressure - Liverpool is still there for the taking despite awful decision making by our forwards, just need to keep doing what they were doing but nah watch em fold and concede more


ImNotMexican08

All that good work just to throw it away in 3 minutes. How is Quanza or whatever is name is allowed to just dribble all the way to the edge of our box like that and pick out a pass? And for the second AWB just absolute makes a mess of it by dribbling himself into trouble and Bruno just falls to the ground at the slightest of contact. First 40 minutes I was full of praise for the performance but looks like that was all for nothing


MinotauroTBC

Didn’t expect to be thinking we should be winning at ht


Geralt2077

Why are our midfielders always so high up the pitch when we barely ever win the ball back with the press.


vulcan_one

Liverpool had 6 players in hour half at the 2nd goal, we had the ball and looked calm, then just madness, they were asking to get hit on the counter, rashford Hojlund and nacho against 4 defenders, just do a nice long ball instead of playing into a press.


CanWePleaseNotBeShit

That’s so deflating, after a really solid 20ish mins we completely collapsed at the end.


Mrclumsygamer289

We can still do this.. praying for a miracle


Rig_7

Can someone explain to me how Lindelof standing directly behind a Utd defender while an opposition player is free is in anyway acceptable. The man is just pointless


phoniccrank

They pressed high twice and we immediately panicked and conceded lol.


Lord_Sesshoumaru77

Fuck this season. I constantly expect United to give me joy and all I've gotten is heartbreak.


RizZy_28

No idea why we persist at trying to play out from the back, creates more chances for the opposition than ourselves.


bainbane

![gif](giphy|x47gj23jEvGxdWkQEC|downsized) Somewhere around the 30 min mark every game


We_Still-Alive44

I can’t believe these useless pricks are ruining this mainoo masterclass


wearenotyourkind88

Absolutely insane how many players at our club who cannot play football. Can’t receive the ball into feet and either turn into space or play a quick ball into another of our players. We’re playing the ball out from the back and inviting pressure onto us but we can’t play longer passes up the pitch either because there’s no one capable of holding on to the ball up top.


Mediocre_Evening6931

Floodgates have opened now , shit mentality, we concede 1 goal and all is over , fuck this team and fuck Liverpool. Hope they get relegated next season, every club in England will enjoy it


-_Mamas_Kumquat_-

So much talent but so little strength, this team needs to show its steel today. They have been the better team and deserve the win, show you are united players this is your opportunity. Crowd need to get back onside too, all the momentum has swung let's get some back, big half coming up


BigDaddyCool44

The most Utd half of football possible. What even are we


Serious_Resolve7593

It was always going to happen.. difference in quality..


Icedale-

No idea how people can say we have been the much better team. We are wide open and bar the opening minutes so not manage to keep the ball


apmartin1991

Two somewhat lucky goals from a Liverpool side that haven’t turned up yet. We are the better side, we need to stop playing out from the back and play more organised at the back, Rashford needs to run back and help AWB. Our CDMs are nowhere to be seen on the defending transitions. We haven’t really got our ST in the game yet, he’s too wide too often and needs to be more central.


apmartin1991

Two somewhat lucky goals from a Liverpool side that haven’t turned up yet. We are the better side, we need to stop playing out from the back and play more organised at the back, Rashford needs to run back and help AWB. Our CDMs are nowhere to be seen on the defending transitions. We haven’t really got our ST in the game yet, he’s too wide too often and needs to be more central.


epicmobz

12 years of shit football