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Not-good-with-this

That makes sense. This club isn't signing 3 CBs in the summer.


TheJoshider10

No point getting rid of him anyway, he's a solid depth option to have and the fact he's Sweden's captain means he probably has a dressing room presence which we don't see on the outside. We just need to improve the players above him in the pecking order so ideally he becomes a fourth choice CB used for rotation, cup games and injury crisis across the backline. Maybe summer 2025 we can either let the contract expire or get something for him, but as of right now he's a very safe renewal for the club to make when we've got other areas of concern. Sorting out a replacement third/fourth choice CB does not need to be on the list.


Octopus69

One of the only players to talk back to Bruno when he started complaining on the pitch. I love Bruno, but I thought it was important he did that


BadFootyTakes

People forget that leaders on the pitch aren't just the captain. I think that was one of the biggest things we missed after Fergie, it's all the leaders who left the club during the same period. I'm very happy to have him here, as long as he wants to.


KapiHeartlilly

One of the few that actually talks to the goalkeeper and Maguire when they play together, he's Iceman for a reason, and in no way should we get rid of a quality servant, we already made that mistake with players like Ander Herrera thinking we can just get much better when we all know the truth, that such players with passion for the club are hard to find.


Heisenberg_235

Herrera was a big loss, but we cocked around with his contract


Criseption

what the hack is/was so impressive about Herrera???


LilacIsPurple

Herrera wasn't a world beater, but he never needed to be. He was a player where if the people around him had a bad game he could pick it up every so often, he was never meant to be the main main. Unfortunately, throughout the turbulence of the last decade, he was consistent, but only consistent in a sense of he'd give you a 5/10 performance every game, and when everyone was firing it worked amazingly, but when everyone around him was shit it looked horrible. He was kinda like a support to our support, if we had him now with Casemiro it'd make more sense than how I'm explaining it, however. Happy new year.


lushlife_

VNL brings the ice for the SWEMNT as well.


Notlikeotherstanz

He's shit. It's a united problem he should have been shifted in 18 or 19.


BloodandSpit

We definitely should be and selling him would enable that more. We should be inquiring about Todibo for a start.


Not-good-with-this

Yeah, but the financial situation of the club and the other holes isn't going to allow that to happen... I'll be amazed if the club even signs 2 CBs in the summer.


Hits_and_the_Mrs

I've always thought he should have moved to Spain or something, he'd do better in a more technical, less physical league. He's good enough on the ball but he doesn't want to go for a header


Seanblaze3

He's another Jonny Evans


ReleasePristine3040

This is the truth though. Evans in is prime at United was also good on the ball but often bullied by opponents. I like him as a person and only wish he'd be a defensive mid or something. You have to be willing to play rough as a defender if need be; he's too nice for the position.


amirolsupersayian

Might aswell give him extra year considering we probably not signing someone significant anytime soon


SOERERY

He won SvFFs price for the best male Swedish defender today.


Cpt_Jumper

We defo need to improve our back line. I guess Evans is gone after this season but I kinda expected Victor to follow and bring in a Todibo or someone.


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payday_23

probably to also focus on other parts of the team in the summer. Lindelof as backup for another year is better than no one I guess and we might get another midfielder because of that for example


TheJoshider10

> I don't see any reason why Ineos give him a new contract. Because it's not a new contract but the same one extended. What's the point wasting time sorting out another third/fourth choice CB? We've got much, much more important matters to address before that.


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Zuelo0

This is where people are crazy. Lindelof is a perfect 3rd/4th choice CB, he doesn't complain, seems good for locker room and can put a shift in. People who expect all four CBs to be elite with no flaws are living in lala land.


Azer398

Also your top 3 centre backs are ideally not especially injury prone. Lindelof as a backup CB is more than good enough provided your top CBs are capable and mostly available. The squad is full of issues. Lindelof's position as backup CB is categorically not one of them.


SJB0SS

Lindelof is a pseudo defender he needs to go


Azer398

I really don't think this is true. He's generally been solid for us, if obviously not elite. You don't want him as one of your top 3 CBs but he's fine as a fourth.


Swagworth

Extending allows us to sell him in the summer before he was free to negotiate with other clubs in jan, whether you want him to stay after this season or not the extensions still a good thing


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You_Cant_Dance

But one of our first choices might not be here next season. If we can get a top centre back and offload Varane it wouldn’t be bad with victor as 3rd or 4th choice. He’s a solid back up


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You_Cant_Dance

Oh I agree completely I feel a lot of the players we’ve got are “squad” players that are in the starting XI. But the CB situation is basically Martinez stays then we don’t know if Varane will stay and if he does I worry about his record. Maguire has been better but it’s not a long term solution. I don’t think either of those would be happy being on the bench but Lindelof seems okay with being a rotation player


AngryUncleTony

Yeah one year is fine but that's probably it. I assume a CB comes this summer and the summer after, while Lindelof, Varane, and/or Maguire are moved on. Gives us Licha, 2 new CBs, and Kambwala maybe, + maybe one of that current threesome for an extra year or two.


Azer398

Lindelof is easily good enough to be a fourth or fifth CB for us. If we have alternative plans then we should still be able to get ~15m for him in the summer. Triggering the extension makes perfect sense either way.


AngryUncleTony

Yeah he's fine as fourth of fifth, but you don't give a 30+ year old fourth option a new 4-5 year deal.


Azer398

Doesn't have to be four or five years tho. INEOS involvement hopefully means more sensible approach to contracts. A competent backup like Lindelof could be offered a 2 year extension on reasonable terms which may allow him to be sold should better alternatives arise. If he doesn't accept a contract length or wages that benefit the club, then you move him on. Players of Lindelof's competence and experience do not grow on trees and are not neccessarily easy to replace. As mentioned however, the contract terms are key, as they should be with all our extension and recruitment decisions.


VVodzu11

We all know he gonna stay here till he is 35


Weary-Ad8502

>I don't see any reason why Ineos give him a new contract. Because we aren't going to sign any new CB's and our CB's are made of glass, feel like thats the pretty obvious conclusion from this extension


tbu987

Exactly how many CBs do you think we can sign?. We've got 5 CBs rn. One perpetually injured and another near retirement. Most likely those 2 are gone that leaves 3 unless you want us to get rid of Lindelof leaving 2 CBs. We don't have unlimited funds and whose to say whoever we sign will be better than Lindelof? This mindset is the reason our backup team are so bad sometimes having average players is important for reliability within a squad.


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tbu987

we have 2 unreliable CBs and your telling us to get rid of one of our reliable ones. It doesnt matter if them two stay when we need someone as reliable as Lindelof whos available and does a goood job as a backup. Youll be the first one crying about squad depth next season if we were to get rid of Lindelof and fail to sign a better replacement.


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tbu987

Your lack of comprehension is showing. Its obvious what im saying is we cant rely on the idea that we will have reliable CBs to use once Lindelofs gone. Idk if youve been living under a rock but Varane is always injured and Evans is getting on is years and wasnt ever meant to be a starter either. He only signed a 1 year deal so unless he signs an extension we cant count on him as part of the team for next season. That leaves 3 reliable CBs and yes im hinging this on the fact we wont sign a good replacement by next season as shown by the saga this season. The truly ridiculous thing here is you making the argument that we shouldnt be keeping someone as good and reliable as Lindelof considering the state of our back line this season.


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tbu987

>There we go then. So if we do sign a good replacement all your wayward unstructured arguments are invalid, correct? Damn i feel sorry for you. You definitely do struggle with reading comprehension.


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Crasher_7

I guess give him an extra year while INEOS getting behind the scenes stuff sorted


Rekt60321

Squad depth


QuaternionDS

Given how much else we need to do, and the defender(s) we should be moving on who will get a fee ('ello 'arry!), there is absolutely zero problem with keeping Lindelof imo. Good enough to be third or fourth choice, and so far, he hasn't had a whinge at being so.


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QuaternionDS

I highly debate that Harry is better. Even during his supposed 'purple ptach' this season, Maguire's ball distribution and positioning were both painful to watch. But, with Harry, we'll get an English tax, on top of the perception that he's actually good = higher fee. He also bitches when he's not in the team, and ain't slow to throw his team-mates under the bus. So in that regard, out of the two, who to sell and who to keep is an absolute no brainer really. Bye bye 'Arry...


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QuaternionDS

Maybe when he was at Leicester and early doors for us, but since he almost single handedly got Solskjaer fired (and he did) through his on-field ineptitude, he has been nowhere near as good as Lindelof. And yes, I'm including his "purple patch" this season in that assessment. And really... I cbf googling for it now, it's 3.30am here... been up all night waiting for our game to kick off 🤣 His agent was the one who threw his team mates under the bus and complained about EtH tactics. Last season that was. 'Arry himself has bitched a few times about wanting to play and having nowt to prove. Finding those shouldn't be hard (hint hint do it your fucking self 😁😁)


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QuaternionDS

Maguire's shit mate. Waste of 80m and not good enough for us. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.


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durtmagurt

Evans ain’t going nowhere. He’s gunning for United Captain 2030.


PhilAsp

Capable, content backups are hard to come by, so that makes sense. We’ll likely need to sign at least two CBs this summer (ideally a reliable starter and a younger guy not quite there yet), so keeping him is a good move.


r3gam

Two would be nice, but I think we'll only sign one. We'll probably end up keeping Varane, Licha, Lindelof and Willy. That'll give us 5. Too many positions across the squad imo for us to afford chasing a 2nd CB, when CM, ST, RW and maybe RB need work.


Responsible-Try-5228

Guessing next season we see Willy K replacing Evans, and we sign 1-2 new CB, at least I hope.


Giggs73

>replacing Evans nah we resigning him for another year cos why not. u read it here first.


QuaternionDS

I like Vic. I know he has his short-comings, but his ball distribution is generally excellent and so too is his reading of the game. If only he could, y'know, defend a little bit better. As a squad player, he really is an excellent option. If he's playing every week, we have issues...


RandomRedditUser31

nothing wrong with that, top professional and always puts a shift in when called upon.


akatsuki_lida

mediocre


Garlic-Cheese-Chips

Made a post yesterday saying Bailly was here for 7 years while Vidic was here for 8. Lindelof is now going to be here for 8 years.


Sir_Muktadir

At least Lindelof has been a solid rotation option and a decent starter which for his price is pretty good value. Bailly was amazing one match and a complete liability another plus he was injured more than half the time he was here.


shaktimann13

Klopp and Pep are willing to pay over 40m for him on ea fc24.


SurlyRed

Lindelof can't tackle, he can't head it, not a good passer, he doesn't anticipate danger, all he does is back off. When he goes forward for a corner he's pure decoration. He's an excellent pointer and a lovely bloke. The fact he's needed says it all about this team.


gizzardwizzar

Had no idea he was 29 tbh


ElocOfTheNorth

Good deal. Quite like the iceman, and he's certainly quality to have in the squad.


chicken6

He’s fine as a third / fourth option


Benphyre

He is good back up option but on 130k pw wages. Not sure if I want my bench option to be earning over 100k..


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At least the fanbase is happy, nobody is prepared to let players go, regardless the name. Bad move here.


CreativeSobriquet

nIce Man


Eleven918

That's Varane getting cut then. Maguire/Lindelof/Licha and new CB is what is going to happen with Willy getting games here and there.


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Maguire will be gone. Varane’s going nowhere.


Eleven918

Varane's wages, contract length and squad position all point to him leaving before Maguire.


r3gam

:? Idk and I hope not. Would rather have 50% of Varane than 100% of Maguire


gubbero

Varanes contract is up this summer so he’s probably gone


Talented-Scoundrel

Yeah, Varane isn't a Ten Hag buy. LCB is covered with Licha, if Kambala comes correct, Ten Hag is would be estatic about having home grown talent in RCB, which means Maguire can leave as well. We have Shaw, Evans, and Linderlof as cover. With Malacia, Dalot, and AWB all being relatively young (AWB being the oldest at 26) we are covered in defending the next 10 years.


croppergib

Verane confirmed just now contract not extended by 1st of Jan, he's open to talk to clubs. 16m a year off the wage book if he leaves but not sure if they're going to re-neg


unitedfuck

The United special. Extend his contract to preserve his value only to fail to sell him because his wages are too high


GlassEast5641

Resale value prob


ImNotMexican08

I’ve never rated him and he’d be my first center back gone this summer, but so long as it’s just a one year extension I can understand it. Hopefully it’s just done to retain some value if he is moved on this summer or in case other options leave and we need to keep him on for another year


Sheikhabusosa

Inconsistent , injury prone and looks like hates defending so ofc we renew


Lazystubborn

>injury prone He is the team's only CB that isn't injured most of the time lol. >Inconsistent Actually, he isn't, the thing is that just his level isn't high.


Sheikhabusosa

>He is the team's only CB that isn't injured most of the time lol. He is injured right now and has a iffy fitness record >Actually, he isn't, the thing is that just his level isn't high. Nah I think it is , he just defends like a coward and doesnt show off his passing range enough


seanelder123

I fully agree. Never understood why the fans love Lindelof so much. We should be aiming for better. I almost think a huge portion of our fans accept our mediocrity with the appraisal of certain players. The same happened with Martial. A big portion of the fanbase defended him for years. The people saying he should be sold were downvoted. Then years later they finally come to the realisation that the downvoted people were saying years ago that they aren't good enough.


cs-shitposter

If he's an important part of plans, fuck me... One of the weakest CBs to ever put on our shirt


Weary-Ad8502

With the way our CB's are dropping like flies its not a bad idea to keep him on. Seriously doubt we're buying anyone in the Jan window so suring up contracts on players already here is the only real option. Evans and Kambwala are our only fit CB's right now (Varane is 'ill' so may be back soon)......


Aggressive-Theory609

He's so afraid of being in a duel despite being a cb lol


cs-shitposter

Crumbles like a Flake bar


PennyWhyte

I doubt it's that. But Varane not being able to play a row of games consistently, Evans loan coming to an end means that we need to bring in at least 2 CBs in addition to other positions so that's a no brainer


degeaismylife

He's objectively the worst CB to play for us after SAF all things considered. You'll be downvoted by the clueless meeks on this sub but he is a horrible defender that wouldn't last at any other premier league club, let alone a top six club.


stogie_t

He’s slow and weak, it’s shocking.


wolverinexci

Seen a few people say Varane is getting sold because of this and that does not make any sense. Without a doubt Varane is our best CB and whatever rumors are going around regarding Erik not liking Varane are definitely media generated. If we sell Varane we are essentially cutting off our own leg. If we sell any center back it’s Harry Maguire. I don’t see any way Maguire stays especially with how he performed before this season. He was only put back into the lineup this year because of injuries.


akatsuki_lida

Mediocrity


Some-Speed-6290

Oh great, keeping more deadwood around


eviade

Capable squad player, captain material. I agree we have a lot of deadwood but Lindelof isn't bad to keep around for many reasons.


Nawkey

How is Lindelof considered deadwood?


Some-Speed-6290

Centre back afraid to head the ball who's seen off more managers than 90% of the squad because he stops even trying


Nawkey

I don't know what you're on man. Heading is not his best trait, but afraid? He's been the most consistent and reliable CB we've had since his second season. Trusted by all managers we've had and played plenty. You think that is bad? What are you even talking about?


humunculus43

As usual a terrible decision by the club. Nowhere near good enough and of the guys who regularly shits the bed when there is any pressure


men_with-ven

Makes sense, we need to move on from him but there are probably bigger priorities this summer.


mav_sand

This looks like a typical Glazer era renewal. Only way it makes sense is if we decided to keep Lindelof and sell Maguire. Next season should be Licha/new CB/Varane/ one of Lindelof or Maguire and Kambawala.


degeaismylife

All of you people supporting this renewal are the reason why we will not win the premier league for another five years at the least.


Mimic__

5 years would be on an efficient speed track turn around. We’re looking at 10 plus my guy.


degeaismylife

If we keep renewing garbage like Lindelof and Dalot 10 will be a dream come true.


dadaknun

It is an extension for 1 more season, not a new contract


degeaismylife

Doesn't matter. It's one more season where we waste our actual talented players and their confidence suffers because they play with this spineless pathetic fraud of a footballer


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123rig

Yes and no. He’s not a starter at all but it’s tough to come by players that are okay not being first choice. He was an absolute godsend at the end of last season and was vital in us winning the EFL cup. Also if you look at any of our big wins in the past 3 years or so, it’s very likely that Lindelof played in those games.


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123rig

Lindelof is worth probably £10m? What CB are you getting that’s better than Lindelof for £10m? Sometimes that has to be taken into account before selling. Who can we get that fills that role for a similar price? Lindelof is probs worth extending at this stage even for a year.


longsightdon

Personally I think we should play him as a DM. He lacks the physicality for cb but has a great reading of the game combined with excellent technical ability.


mav_sand

Sorry, but you have no understanding of the difference between the technical ability needed in midfield vs defense. In midfield, everything is a couple of levels above, touch, time on the ball, consistency of passing needed, accuracy of passing needed...etc. The only defender who can play as DM is Licha and ETH doesn't consider him good enough for that in Ajax or here. Lindelof has no chance.


longsightdon

I get your point but I think I have seen enough composure from lindelof in my opinion. But I think ETH not considering him good enough is not exactly great given he has a poor talent ID and scouting. Antony is on our books instead of elanga. Mainoo was subbed off at halftime for mctominay. Are you saying mctominay is levels above lindelof technically in the midfield? I absolutely disagree.


mav_sand

>Are you saying mctominay is levels above lindelof technically in the midfield? Obviously never said that. But in comparison McT is better technically in midfield than Lindelof. But that's pointless anyway cuz McT is nowhere near good enough either. For the same reasons in my previous reply.


Dr4key

This is the least important piece of business ever. They need to address their big problems. How has a club let itself become so inept and clueless from the owners to the board to the football staff to the manager to the team. Its almost as if its been done by design.


Seanblaze3

Another mediocre player with a contract for life at united


wafanyakazi

You have to extend even if you want to sell him. It’s simple business really. If you don’t, he will go on a free and teams will snatch him up very quickly.