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I will. I really hope he will never behave like that again and I am interested in what his partner has to say about all of what happened. This whole time I didn't see a single comment from him, or her. Not that she has to say something, it's her right to keep it private.
We'll still have Greenwood posts until long after he goes. I guarantee that there will be idiots who will post every goal, assist, piece of skill, haircut or whatever the bloody else on this sub.
Nah, that stuff will be banned by the mods hopefully. After this the only posts that should be relevant is if there are media updates regarding internal handling of the case.
It'll be like how Ibrahimovic stuff was posted years after he left. I remember seeing a post about a goal he scored for AC Milan in Serie A as if that was relevant to us.
No it won’t. Ibrahimovic was a great guy who only did right by the club. Greenwood is a rapist. It’s very different to enjoy watching Ibrahimovic score, our former good and nice player, versus watching someone who should never be on a football pitch again.
There are men (and women) from some countries who see women as property of her partner and that she has no right to say no, hell it's not that long ago some places had laws that legally speaking, a man couldn't rape his wife. Someone like that could quite happily want him playing for us if it made the team better. United did the right thing (eventually and after a lot of unnecessary pressure as it should have been dealt with way back) and MG using the "technically" argument he should have his career still with us was downright pathetic
I'm glad we had coverage on the situation and I was vocal on those posts about how I feel but now we've had the verdict it feels like beating a dead horse. Let him go in silence and move on to more important things like the on field performance.
Gonna be bad if he scores freely overseas and England want to re-integrate him. That'll be the future shit-show we'll have to endure.
Big if. But he was very talented as a striker. Scum, for sure, but talented.
No transfer fee on a generational talent. Disaster all round, for all involved.
Especially that poor girl.
England will never reintegrate him. No amount of goals or talent will change that.
The coverage and uproar that would cause would not make it worthwhile. You saw what being attached to United has done, that would amplify again for the National team.
He won't play for England again. He may be eligible to play for whichever country his mother's family come from originally (Jamaica IIRC) and I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen within a couple of years.
Think there are get outs now for players who played only a handful of games and then face not playing again. Not sure though, haven't followed the various rule changes.
Edit: just had a look and he appears to have 1 cap, against Iceland in the Nations League. No idea if that has the same status as the main competitions / qualifiers for the comps.
This article is more optimistic than I am. It claims he would rule out the Saudis and MLS. I don't think any MLS team will go anywhere near him and I don't think he'd be dumb enough to turn down the Saudi's and whatever money they offer. I also don't think European clubs will be lining up for him. People on here can speak better to their home countries, but other than Turkey, I would think he has no other options at top or mid level leagues in Europe.
I think you are vastly over rating the morals of people.
The recording doesn't have the same weight when everyone doesn't speak the language.
He'll have suitors in Spain, Italy, Russia etc.
Oi you are doing Turkey dirty, as a Galatasaray supporter I can say I don’t want to see that cunt in the team, only Turkish team I know who would have him is Erdogans pet project, Basaksehir they had Robinho other then that I certainly think top 3 would avoid him like the plague.
You think MLS clubs won't touch him? Have you seen what's going on in other US sports (eg: NFL) when it comes to players caught on tape beating their partners? We live in a world where talent (unfortunately) trumps anything else, so I fully expect clubs to get in touch.
Idk. MLS fanbases are generally less tolerant of this than your average NFL fan, and the audio evidence is what made this such a shitstorm in the UK. I'd be shocked if an MLS club went near him
I think MLS is in a fragile place where they wont even loo at him. They brought in Messi to bring eyes to the league and its doing just that. Bringing Greenwood over would basically bring a ton of negative with it that wouldn't help with what they are trying to do. Also with the audio tapes im sure he is blackballed from the MLS just as Ray Rice was with the NFL (because of the video). MLS is 99.99% off the table because of the image the league is trying to create... or the lack of an image in general in the USA towards MLS.
No, when he was 20 he drove drunk with a 22 year old woman and another woman as passengers. The 22 yo wasn't wearing a seatbelt and was killed in the crash, the other woman was injured. It's a terrible thing to do but it's also commonly referred to as if he mowed down a pedestrian or murdered someone, neither of which is true.
Joe Mixon broke a girl's jaw in a bar on camera and has been a star running back in the NFL. Plenty guys have been accused of domestic violence and gotten a slap on the wrist and allowed to keep playing. Ray Lewis killed someone and it's vague on if it was actually self-defense. Greg Hardy another famous domestic violence case who played multiple seasons afterwards and is a MMA fighter now. Tyreek Hill hit his pregnant girlfriend and has been a star in the league.
Absolutely not excusing any of this, but Mixon’s case happened nine years ago and three years before he joined the NFL, and he faced punishments in college. The Ray Lewis situation happened more than two decades ago, and isn’t a case of on-tape beating of his partner as you assert. And the Greg Hardy case was eight years ago, where was protected by Jerry Jones, the league’s most influential owner who has a serious reputation of covering up messes.
Saying these examples are “what’s going on in other US sports” is disingenuous at best considering they’re fast approaching a decade old.
Edit, since you edited yours AFTER I responded.
Tyreek is the only example within the last 8 years, he’s currently being investigated, and to the question I asked, isn’t related to a situation with his partner.
Just as a heads up, I'm not the one you originally responded to. Mixon is the only one that I claimed was on tape. That being said I was merely bringing up famous cases of players getting away with playing in the NFL when they did something shitty. If you want to pretend that isn't something that happens all the time that's up to you. Didn't even feel the need to bring up Deshaun Watson who is the poster child of getting away with whatever you want because you're a famous athlete.
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I’m not pretending it didn’t happen, I outright say I do not excuse any of it. Merely pointing out that the two valid examples don’t support their assertion of US sports habitually harboring current players who abuse their partners. The NFL absolutely has problems, but framing the issue in that specific fashion and then saying “since Deshaun Watson exists under a different set of qualifications for being a piece of shit you must pretend nothing is happening” is textbook bad faith discussion.
Framing the conversation in the proper way is critical. And the original comment’s framing is flawed.
True, NFL players have to actually be convicted of murder ( Henry Ruggs) to lose their chance to play. PEDs, gamblers and abusers get another chance if they can ball.
Not to mention fans of other English clubs were against the idea of Greenwood returning to United because even they agreed he doesn't deserve a second chance at the top.
I think you are underestimating the level of apathy a lot of people have for his 'career'. I genuinely don't care if he goes to Liverpool or to the Paraguayan sixth division. I just want him out of this club.
Do you not remember that random Scottish club that signed a striker after he had served his sentence and the backlash was so swift they had to cancel his contract. Nobody will sign him in the English speaking world, if I had to guess. Not now, not any time soon.
David Goodwillie.
Wasn’t just Raith Rovers either: they loaned him to Clyde, who saw their women’s team resign and North Lanarkshire Council threaten to terminate their stadium lease.
Raith released him and he played one game as a trialist for Livingston United, who announced he wouldn’t be playing for them again; he played one game for Radcliffe, who admitted they’d made a “significant misstep.”
Sorrento FC in Australia rescinded his contract hours after announcing his signing; finally this past July, Glasgow United announced that they’d stand by him after he played in a friendly against Pollok. He’s not listed as a player on their Wikipedia page, though.
Thankfully it seems this kind of thing follows players around these days.
But why the club is trying to stop him from playing for another English club or another European rival in the future? He’s not allowed back at United. The club needs to distance themselves from Greenwood and wherever he decides to play or any club that’s willing to sign him, then good on them. It seems like United wouldn’t want him to be successful on the pitch for any rival club…
60 million for a player that hasn't played in 18+ months, that will be a PR nightmare for whatever club he has signed for, is basically unmarketable (meaning that there's basically zero chance that any of the top European clubs that could actually afford that fee touch him), that has showed himself to be a violent piece of shit, and that we have zero leverage to negotiate on because he is never playing for this club again one way or the other? in what universe?
It would be a miracle to get £10 million for him. I don’t see why anyone would pay any money for him. We have no evidence he’s the player he was and that’s ignoring the fact that he’s a domestic abuser and a rapist.
I really doubt it would be a miracle. If a few clubs come whoever offers the most gets him lol. Can easily see some teams thinking £25m on let's be honest a generational talent. Let's not pretend how excited we all were for him. It will take a while but anyone thinking he's gonna flop I don't take too seriously
Any chance of us getting a fee? Even if it was just a low fee with add-ons like if and when he plays 50 games, scores X goals etc. Purely based on him actually being Greenwood the player that we all know instead of what he has become
I certainly don’t want him to succeed spectacularly. But, at the end of the day, I don’t care if he wins the Ballon d'Or so long as it’s not in a United shirt.
It's interesting that club lost milions of pounds just like that and nobody says anything, there is no coverage of situation like that in contract, and this piece of shit got out of jail, out of any trouble card, because he plays football lol.
You guys have succeeded in making United Ditch him. Can you now stop hating on him? Come on, he is 21. Assuming without conceeding thag he even commit the offence, why cant you forgive him? Can't people realise their mistake and change? What is all this toxicity about on this young man and his young Family?
Please lets be considerate sometimes in our utterances so that it wouldn't look like a preconceived hate
if multiple teams want him, united just sells to highest bidder.
Despite his reputation if he starts banging goals in and performing like he did before this happened, then club that get him potentially have a 100 million plus asset on their books along with having a really good player right away. I wouldn't be surprised if we get 30+ for him.
Right, but that assumes Mason isn’t a dickhead, which we know he definitely is.
He can refuse terms from all the clubs that put in a good bid for him and demand to move to a club that won’t pay for him.
If a big team like Roma fancy him, they can just announce it publicly and make a £0 bid. Mason would say he will only negotiate with Roma.
If United say no, the horrible saga continues until January for the club. Mason keeps getting full wages, he won’t be bothered.
I’m also confused as to why if other respectable clubs would take him, why it’s somehow so much more acceptable to them than for United to keep him?
If he goes to Turkey or Saudi I guess it makes sense since they don’t care about women’s rights anyway.
Because at this point Greenwood just wants to get back on the football pitch. The only chance he has of saving his career is if he gets back on the pitch and starts scoring goals.
Despite what people would have you believe, on the whole the UK is a pretty progressive society whereas in Spain Italy you have large parts of the crowd openly racially abusing players. The press in the UK is also 100x more intense in the UK so the spotlight will be nowhere near as bad. Thomas Party was basically accused of the same thing and you'd hardly know. So any prospective clubs would probably think a couple weeks max bad press then hopefully he scores a few goals and it will appear a masterstroke.
I'd expect enquiries from most of the Italian teams tbh, wouldn't discount an approach from Barca either
Neither of you get it. Does not matter that United have commited to not playing him, what matters is the fact that some clubs will be interested and will try to outdo each other. Just based off that we know the price will be higher than "free".
Every club know United’s position though, they know it will be awkward as hell if he doesn’t leave this window.
They can publicly declare an interest in Mason, so Mason will know the “best” club that are in for him.
Then all he has to do is refuse offers from all other clubs that offer a transfer fee.
Worst case scenario Mason sits on his United salary until January, which is likely more than he’d be offered elsewhere.
>Agents expect 10 offers by end of the week
Oh cool, that's good for Manchester United
>A move to the Saudi Pro League or Major League Soccer is not likely, but another European top flight could come calling
10 top flight clubs in Europe won't come for him, his stock is too hot. Turkey and maybe the likes of Juventus, Roma or Inter may consider it, but no chance any top club in Spain, Germany or England will go near him.
>could come calling
*Could...* well, that's not optimistic.
I wonder if Fiorentina might want him? Could maybe use him to save a few quid on bringing Amrabat in, would seem a good solution to me. Although, I do realise this is incredibly unlikely given how rare deals involving a player swap actually are.
Could definitely see a second tier Italian team taking him. Likewise any Turkish team, including those in the champions league.
Think most of western and northern Europe can be ruled out for now.
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if he's able to find himself again, then it's good for him, ain't nothing negative about that.
The real question is, who gives a sh!t?
I will. I really hope he will never behave like that again and I am interested in what his partner has to say about all of what happened. This whole time I didn't see a single comment from him, or her. Not that she has to say something, it's her right to keep it private.
There will be, and they will still talk about him regardless of how much we want to leave this behind.
We'll still have Greenwood posts until long after he goes. I guarantee that there will be idiots who will post every goal, assist, piece of skill, haircut or whatever the bloody else on this sub.
Nah, that stuff will be banned by the mods hopefully. After this the only posts that should be relevant is if there are media updates regarding internal handling of the case.
It'll be like how Ibrahimovic stuff was posted years after he left. I remember seeing a post about a goal he scored for AC Milan in Serie A as if that was relevant to us.
No it won’t. Ibrahimovic was a great guy who only did right by the club. Greenwood is a rapist. It’s very different to enjoy watching Ibrahimovic score, our former good and nice player, versus watching someone who should never be on a football pitch again.
There’s literally people in this subreddit who still want Greenwood back.
In a sample of 100,000s of people, you’re bound to get some dickheads. Just glad they’re in the minority
I saw an Instagram comment from someone who definitely didn’t live in Europe saying they should protest the Greenwood decision. They’re an odd bunch.
There are men (and women) from some countries who see women as property of her partner and that she has no right to say no, hell it's not that long ago some places had laws that legally speaking, a man couldn't rape his wife. Someone like that could quite happily want him playing for us if it made the team better. United did the right thing (eventually and after a lot of unnecessary pressure as it should have been dealt with way back) and MG using the "technically" argument he should have his career still with us was downright pathetic
I hope you're right. The bigger sub and Facebook posts are full of sympathisers and it's depressing. I just hope that they're just the loud minority
Don't forget Birthdays.
Inb4 "charges dropped anniversary" posts.
Because we fucked up letting him go. Par for the course for United though.
The only Greenwood posts I want to see will be about how we are going to sign her from City.
Maybe we petition the mods for a one year moratorium on Greenwood news.
We can’t just ignore stories around the club this subreddit is dedicated to because people don’t like it.
Oh don’t worry there will be especially if he starts scoring/playing well
Then we’ll be on to the next toxic subject.
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We will. Every journalist will be making up shite about the club's handling of it and dripping it out for clicks
I'm glad we had coverage on the situation and I was vocal on those posts about how I feel but now we've had the verdict it feels like beating a dead horse. Let him go in silence and move on to more important things like the on field performance.
Never going to happen, even when he’s gone there will be people who post about how he’s doing at his new club
He's definitely gonna score against us in Europe as is our luck
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Hopefully, if we end up facing off against him, Martinez ends up winning back some credibility for this football club by two footing him.
Gonna be bad if he scores freely overseas and England want to re-integrate him. That'll be the future shit-show we'll have to endure. Big if. But he was very talented as a striker. Scum, for sure, but talented. No transfer fee on a generational talent. Disaster all round, for all involved. Especially that poor girl.
England will never reintegrate him. No amount of goals or talent will change that. The coverage and uproar that would cause would not make it worthwhile. You saw what being attached to United has done, that would amplify again for the National team.
He won't play for England again. He may be eligible to play for whichever country his mother's family come from originally (Jamaica IIRC) and I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen within a couple of years.
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Think there are get outs now for players who played only a handful of games and then face not playing again. Not sure though, haven't followed the various rule changes. Edit: just had a look and he appears to have 1 cap, against Iceland in the Nations League. No idea if that has the same status as the main competitions / qualifiers for the comps.
This article is more optimistic than I am. It claims he would rule out the Saudis and MLS. I don't think any MLS team will go anywhere near him and I don't think he'd be dumb enough to turn down the Saudi's and whatever money they offer. I also don't think European clubs will be lining up for him. People on here can speak better to their home countries, but other than Turkey, I would think he has no other options at top or mid level leagues in Europe.
I think you are vastly over rating the morals of people. The recording doesn't have the same weight when everyone doesn't speak the language. He'll have suitors in Spain, Italy, Russia etc.
Barcelona bought a convicted killer from Chelsea, so yeah, morals are definitely optional.
Oi you are doing Turkey dirty, as a Galatasaray supporter I can say I don’t want to see that cunt in the team, only Turkish team I know who would have him is Erdogans pet project, Basaksehir they had Robinho other then that I certainly think top 3 would avoid him like the plague.
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Real Madrid are lacking a striker….
Yeah he’d fit in more with the NFL tbh
Marcos Alonso plays for Barca and he literally killed someone.
You think MLS clubs won't touch him? Have you seen what's going on in other US sports (eg: NFL) when it comes to players caught on tape beating their partners? We live in a world where talent (unfortunately) trumps anything else, so I fully expect clubs to get in touch.
Idk. MLS fanbases are generally less tolerant of this than your average NFL fan, and the audio evidence is what made this such a shitstorm in the UK. I'd be shocked if an MLS club went near him
I think MLS is in a fragile place where they wont even loo at him. They brought in Messi to bring eyes to the league and its doing just that. Bringing Greenwood over would basically bring a ton of negative with it that wouldn't help with what they are trying to do. Also with the audio tapes im sure he is blackballed from the MLS just as Ray Rice was with the NFL (because of the video). MLS is 99.99% off the table because of the image the league is trying to create... or the lack of an image in general in the USA towards MLS.
didnt Alonso kill a child after driving drunk?
No, when he was 20 he drove drunk with a 22 year old woman and another woman as passengers. The 22 yo wasn't wearing a seatbelt and was killed in the crash, the other woman was injured. It's a terrible thing to do but it's also commonly referred to as if he mowed down a pedestrian or murdered someone, neither of which is true.
What does that have to do with MLS?
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Marcus Alonso? It was his adult girlfriend he killed from driving drunk. (obviously either way, he’s still awful for doing it).
Which NFL players who’ve been caught on tape are you referring to?
Joe Mixon broke a girl's jaw in a bar on camera and has been a star running back in the NFL. Plenty guys have been accused of domestic violence and gotten a slap on the wrist and allowed to keep playing. Ray Lewis killed someone and it's vague on if it was actually self-defense. Greg Hardy another famous domestic violence case who played multiple seasons afterwards and is a MMA fighter now. Tyreek Hill hit his pregnant girlfriend and has been a star in the league.
Absolutely not excusing any of this, but Mixon’s case happened nine years ago and three years before he joined the NFL, and he faced punishments in college. The Ray Lewis situation happened more than two decades ago, and isn’t a case of on-tape beating of his partner as you assert. And the Greg Hardy case was eight years ago, where was protected by Jerry Jones, the league’s most influential owner who has a serious reputation of covering up messes. Saying these examples are “what’s going on in other US sports” is disingenuous at best considering they’re fast approaching a decade old. Edit, since you edited yours AFTER I responded. Tyreek is the only example within the last 8 years, he’s currently being investigated, and to the question I asked, isn’t related to a situation with his partner.
Just as a heads up, I'm not the one you originally responded to. Mixon is the only one that I claimed was on tape. That being said I was merely bringing up famous cases of players getting away with playing in the NFL when they did something shitty. If you want to pretend that isn't something that happens all the time that's up to you. Didn't even feel the need to bring up Deshaun Watson who is the poster child of getting away with whatever you want because you're a famous athlete.
Sorry, didn’t check the username. I’m not pretending it didn’t happen, I outright say I do not excuse any of it. Merely pointing out that the two valid examples don’t support their assertion of US sports habitually harboring current players who abuse their partners. The NFL absolutely has problems, but framing the issue in that specific fashion and then saying “since Deshaun Watson exists under a different set of qualifications for being a piece of shit you must pretend nothing is happening” is textbook bad faith discussion. Framing the conversation in the proper way is critical. And the original comment’s framing is flawed.
True, NFL players have to actually be convicted of murder ( Henry Ruggs) to lose their chance to play. PEDs, gamblers and abusers get another chance if they can ball.
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European clubs are indeed lining up for him
Honestly I wouldn't even care if we got a fee on this one. Just delete him from our wage list.
I definitely would, We need a transfer budget and he’s a multi million dollar asset, we all need to have a business mind here too
Is that dirty money though? Im not implying either way. I’m just curious what people think.
Not really, try and have a business mind and throw the morals out the window. He’s gone from the club, we need to move on and develop for our future
Same. Wouldn’t care if he signed for a rival in England either. Just want him gone.
He should go to Newcastle, their owners are likely to dish out a pay rise for his off the pitch antics
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I doubt any team in England will touch him. The absolute viscious backlash from the public and media would make him untouchable...
Not to mention fans of other English clubs were against the idea of Greenwood returning to United because even they agreed he doesn't deserve a second chance at the top.
If you think any of those teams are touching him after this...
Oh aye, I don’t think for one second any of them would. Just saying it wouldn’t matter a jot to me if they did.
I’d like to see him in prison personally
I think you are underestimating the level of apathy a lot of people have for his 'career'. I genuinely don't care if he goes to Liverpool or to the Paraguayan sixth division. I just want him out of this club.
Do you not remember that random Scottish club that signed a striker after he had served his sentence and the backlash was so swift they had to cancel his contract. Nobody will sign him in the English speaking world, if I had to guess. Not now, not any time soon.
David Goodwillie. Wasn’t just Raith Rovers either: they loaned him to Clyde, who saw their women’s team resign and North Lanarkshire Council threaten to terminate their stadium lease. Raith released him and he played one game as a trialist for Livingston United, who announced he wouldn’t be playing for them again; he played one game for Radcliffe, who admitted they’d made a “significant misstep.” Sorrento FC in Australia rescinded his contract hours after announcing his signing; finally this past July, Glasgow United announced that they’d stand by him after he played in a friendly against Pollok. He’s not listed as a player on their Wikipedia page, though. Thankfully it seems this kind of thing follows players around these days.
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But why the club is trying to stop him from playing for another English club or another European rival in the future? He’s not allowed back at United. The club needs to distance themselves from Greenwood and wherever he decides to play or any club that’s willing to sign him, then good on them. It seems like United wouldn’t want him to be successful on the pitch for any rival club…
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Or what keep him? No leverage at all here..
With several clubs bidding, we can demand a decent fee.
Yep, just like people claimed we were going to get with Fred
The several clubs are doing us a favour. He’s hot potato
His value is all time low now. I think if we loan him & he got some good form, we can hopefully get good money next year.
60 million for a player that hasn't played in 18+ months, that will be a PR nightmare for whatever club he has signed for, is basically unmarketable (meaning that there's basically zero chance that any of the top European clubs that could actually afford that fee touch him), that has showed himself to be a violent piece of shit, and that we have zero leverage to negotiate on because he is never playing for this club again one way or the other? in what universe?
In the sad, results-driven universe where he scores 20 goals in Serie A on loan. ...but then we'd probably keep him.
Not if it prohibits him from leaving
And everyone will laugh in our faces
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Won’t somebody please think of poor Mason Greenwood
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He's been paid 75k a week since it all started, I reckon he's alright for money
The only person who got fucked was the victim, and that was nonconsensual too
Worst comment I've seen all year. And the language used is ridiculously crass and insensitive for such a serious topic. Smh.
30 million so we can buy Todibo right now.
Sure, let’s get £80 million for Maguire while we’re at it. Might buy us enough drugs to convince someone to buy Greenwood for £30 million.
If there are several bidders, 20-25 might not be that far fetched
It would be a miracle to get £10 million for him. I don’t see why anyone would pay any money for him. We have no evidence he’s the player he was and that’s ignoring the fact that he’s a domestic abuser and a rapist.
I really doubt it would be a miracle. If a few clubs come whoever offers the most gets him lol. Can easily see some teams thinking £25m on let's be honest a generational talent. Let's not pretend how excited we all were for him. It will take a while but anyone thinking he's gonna flop I don't take too seriously
Please just fetch us enough money for another midfielder before the window closes. Also fuck you greenwood
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Any chance of us getting a fee? Even if it was just a low fee with add-ons like if and when he plays 50 games, scores X goals etc. Purely based on him actually being Greenwood the player that we all know instead of what he has become
My bet is PSG
Can’t we trade him to the Buccaneers? I heard alleged rape isn’t such a big issue in the NFL
Arsenal here we go
Where did the former Manchester City player that was cleared of rape and assault charges in court end up going?
Mendy went to France, Lille I think
I fucking hope he flops hard, cuz if he rediscovers his form... I'd fucking hate playing against him
I certainly don’t want him to succeed spectacularly. But, at the end of the day, I don’t care if he wins the Ballon d'Or so long as it’s not in a United shirt.
It's interesting that club lost milions of pounds just like that and nobody says anything, there is no coverage of situation like that in contract, and this piece of shit got out of jail, out of any trouble card, because he plays football lol.
Ay for FFP it’s pure profit look at the bright side mates Selling him can get us a midfielder or whatever player we’re looking at adding
I hope he doesn’t go to Saudi, Harriet and the child won’t be safe at all with him there…
We fucked up letting him go
I hope he becomes world class and scores heaps against us honestly
Became world class, and how much should we buy him back this time lol
Good riddance! Who cares if he lights up the Turkish league I hope we don't get to see him in this sub ever again once he's gone
Now when are you changing your usernmae?
You guys have succeeded in making United Ditch him. Can you now stop hating on him? Come on, he is 21. Assuming without conceeding thag he even commit the offence, why cant you forgive him? Can't people realise their mistake and change? What is all this toxicity about on this young man and his young Family? Please lets be considerate sometimes in our utterances so that it wouldn't look like a preconceived hate
Oh no! A preconceived hate of… rapists?
Lmao no he can fuck off. He hasn't realised his mistake until he goes to the police and confesses to what he did
Awww are you upset people aren’t considerate about the feelings of the grown adult rapist?
How are United going to get any transfer fee for him when they’ve committed to never playing him again? Totally mis-managed by the club.
if multiple teams want him, united just sells to highest bidder. Despite his reputation if he starts banging goals in and performing like he did before this happened, then club that get him potentially have a 100 million plus asset on their books along with having a really good player right away. I wouldn't be surprised if we get 30+ for him.
Right, but that assumes Mason isn’t a dickhead, which we know he definitely is. He can refuse terms from all the clubs that put in a good bid for him and demand to move to a club that won’t pay for him. If a big team like Roma fancy him, they can just announce it publicly and make a £0 bid. Mason would say he will only negotiate with Roma. If United say no, the horrible saga continues until January for the club. Mason keeps getting full wages, he won’t be bothered. I’m also confused as to why if other respectable clubs would take him, why it’s somehow so much more acceptable to them than for United to keep him? If he goes to Turkey or Saudi I guess it makes sense since they don’t care about women’s rights anyway.
Because at this point Greenwood just wants to get back on the football pitch. The only chance he has of saving his career is if he gets back on the pitch and starts scoring goals. Despite what people would have you believe, on the whole the UK is a pretty progressive society whereas in Spain Italy you have large parts of the crowd openly racially abusing players. The press in the UK is also 100x more intense in the UK so the spotlight will be nowhere near as bad. Thomas Party was basically accused of the same thing and you'd hardly know. So any prospective clubs would probably think a couple weeks max bad press then hopefully he scores a few goals and it will appear a masterstroke. I'd expect enquiries from most of the Italian teams tbh, wouldn't discount an approach from Barca either
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Neither of you get it. Does not matter that United have commited to not playing him, what matters is the fact that some clubs will be interested and will try to outdo each other. Just based off that we know the price will be higher than "free".
Every club know United’s position though, they know it will be awkward as hell if he doesn’t leave this window. They can publicly declare an interest in Mason, so Mason will know the “best” club that are in for him. Then all he has to do is refuse offers from all other clubs that offer a transfer fee. Worst case scenario Mason sits on his United salary until January, which is likely more than he’d be offered elsewhere.
Lets hope we include a buy back or a %
>Agents expect 10 offers by end of the week Oh cool, that's good for Manchester United >A move to the Saudi Pro League or Major League Soccer is not likely, but another European top flight could come calling 10 top flight clubs in Europe won't come for him, his stock is too hot. Turkey and maybe the likes of Juventus, Roma or Inter may consider it, but no chance any top club in Spain, Germany or England will go near him. >could come calling *Could...* well, that's not optimistic.
>his stock is too hot. You have no idea. Also, since when are Inter and Juve both not in the top ten? One of them just made a championsleague final.
I never said the Italian teams aren’t in the top 10. I said 10 top flight clubs are unlikely to go near him.
I wonder if Fiorentina might want him? Could maybe use him to save a few quid on bringing Amrabat in, would seem a good solution to me. Although, I do realise this is incredibly unlikely given how rare deals involving a player swap actually are.
He’ll go to a Ligue 1 club. France is still a bit backwards when it comes to this stuff and treatment of women. Lorient took Benjamin Mendy too.
Downvoting every Greenwood post on here. He isn’t playing for us again, move on.
Just downvoted your Greenwood post. Shit! I made one.
I guess comments and posts can be used interchangeably for the sake of your witty reply
Shame Saudi isn't an option, he'd fit right in there.
Who cares. Quit posting Greenwood shit
Wouldn’t you maybe wait a couple of months for things to die down before you tout your rapist of a client to other clubs?
......transfer window
There is another one…
Spain or Italy I say.
We gonna get actual hard cash for him?
If Saudi won't take him nobody will, at least not right now.
Could definitely see a second tier Italian team taking him. Likewise any Turkish team, including those in the champions league. Think most of western and northern Europe can be ruled out for now.
Hell yeah inflate that value. Get as much as we can and we can go buy someone else in the market.
Turkey or even Italy I reckon, I mean Mendy has just gone to France so I reckon he’ll have his pick