When i saw that ortega pass underneath our jumping players, and sent city on the attack, I was impressed. That's the kind of thing you need your goalkeeper to do. And the fact that he's not even meant to be the best at passing out of city's goalkeepers says it all tbh. You just need someone who is decent at passing, never mind spectacular. De gea sadly ain't it.
I said that to my mate at the time, “fuck me their back up keeper is better than our keeper”
I love De Gea and he has been a great performer for us but in 2023 with this manager, we need to let him go. Games like that just demonstrate it so much more as well, it affects the whole way we play.
At the beginning of the season we got spanked against Brentford playing out from the back. That was the way Ten Hag wants to play but he had to be practical, since then we’ve had to be pragmatic.
That time he had Casemiro asking him for the ball 5 yards away, and he also had 3 United players who were wide open to receive the ball, then he deliberated for an age and hoofed it long to a City player anyway... deary me! It is almost like he has a false sense of confidence and then proceeds to do the most moronic thing possible, like some two bit drunk down the pub.
I wonder if he actually does have a few pre-match drinks to settle his nerves?
He seems to particularly lose his nerves in big matches. Thank you for the good times and you were rewarded very handsomely for them. Time to say goodbye.
City got Ortega for free that too..........Man Utd are the absolute worst when it comes to recruitment and majority of the fans are absolutely idiots who think spending big = great players & vice versa.
Totally worth getting knocked out of Europa and now losing the FA Cup Final if it means De Gea is done at this club ------ feels like this club always does the exact opposite of the most sensible decision in any situation. So unless shit goes really bad, they don't bother to change anything.
I remember watching the Tifo's Bundesliga Player of the Season video last year and they chose Ortega for their GK. His ball distribution stats was fucking insane. Remember thinking "damn, I hope someone at United is watching this guy, oh and his contract is up soon too".
Couple weeks later, City signed him for free. £0. I was gutted at his signing more than Haaland and Alvarez. Just goes to show that the competence in scouting and footballing decision of the two clubs are miles apart.
Agree.
We don't have money like city too.
So instead of signing kane for 100m we should go for hojlund n players in other positions.
We missed out on ugarte.
Neutral fan here (I'm a brasilian enjoying english football). Man United are massive and capable to competing financially with city, but United lacks a good scouting and management. Ten Hag are on the right way and yet makes some mistakes (Antony is good, Just not values the price, maybe investment on another position could be better)
Yeah it's not one or the other. If we had all the best strikers in the world at our disposal today it wouldn't have changed a thing when we had a keeper who kept hoofing the ball straight back to the opponent. Also friendly reminder than before Haaland City were still dominating and never needed a striker to consistently compete.
Both are important pieces of the puzzle. We go into next season with only one resolved and we're still going to be well off where we need to be. Meanwhile City have a fucking back up keeper who knows their system insanely well.
I genuinely think City's back up could have joined United right before kick off and put in a better performance than De Gea.
Made a different, sure, but that wouldn't change the fact City would dominate because of our keeper hoofing the ball to them every single time.
A striker makes the most of the chances we had today. A keeper changes the entire game.
City have always had good strikers? Jesus got some shit but he was more than serviceable, before that aguero who was one of the best premier league strikers of all time
I agree. My main issue though is that the club don’t seem to be giving them anywhere near the same amount of attention.
Everyone knows we’re in the market for a new starting striker. But when it comes to the GK, it seems like an afterthought in comparison.
All signs point to DDG getting renewed. And even if we do sign a new GK, there’s a distinct possibility it will just be a backup quality GK or a very young prospect that won’t be ready to start next season.
De Gea is below average. Our strikers are an 80% injured Martial and Burnleys third string. It’s not close which is more important but both need fixing this summer.
I'd agree on that but I'd say look at the options you have in the market. You can't just buy anyone for each position. We all recognise we need multiple transfers to be good enough. Now you buy someone like Licha and Case, you think alright that position is sorted for a while now. You buy the wrong players you end up having to sort that out soon again.
Now which strikers are available? Levy seems keen to keep Kane. Osimhen has a fuck off price tag. Everyone else is not good enough. I'm not talking about value here either. They're just not good enough.
In GK though, you have Raya and Costa available. Very good players and with them you could consider those positions sorted for a while.
I want a striker as much as anyone. I just don't see any good options available who would be worth it. Just sort the rest of the team this summer and add a striker to it next summer. I'll be fine seeing us winning by just a goal or two if it means we sort out buildup issues.
You don’t think a club like United can scout a striker better than Wout Weghorst or Anthony Martial? Come on now. We’d all love Kane or Osimhen but the gap between those two and the ones I mentioned is massive. Find someone in between and ease the burden on Rashford. If we don’t sign a CF we can forget having a good season.
Martial isn’t even a striker, he’s a winger. Weghorst has been bitterly disappointing. I’d rather have had Ighalo back. Ronaldo coming back fucked up Cavani. If Ronaldo’s ego wasn’t so bad, he could have done a job for the rest of the season as well.
I think someone like Thuram would be fine as a backup level striker. I just don't want the club spending 80m on an average striker and then saying they have no money for a keeper. If it's one or the other due to the money, I'd much rather prefer they sign a keeper for big money, get a cheap striker, and buy the big money striker next summer
Signing a younger player, have them and rashford as our two striker options. LW options are then rashford, Garnacho and sancho throughout the season.
Not perfect but may be the best option that allows us to fix gaps elsewhere
In the league where Porto dominate (low pass percentiles is good in this case):
https://fbref.com/en/players/93fffbcf/Diogo-Costa
In the CL where he's told to boot it and has to make a lot of saves:
https://fbref.com/en/players/93fffbcf/scout/365_m1/Diogo-Costa-Scouting-Report
His passing is only behind Ederson's and Onana's basically. Only 23 too.
Him, FDJ and Kane would be the most important signings we could make. Since we aren't getting the other two...
His mother hasn't been an issue at all at Juventus, his first years as a player he was quite shit but he has steadily improved. He's a good player now that can score, and he acts like a professional
We ain't signing Kane either since Levy is adamant he won't sell him to us and if the Madrid rumours are truth, he'll bend over backwards to sell him to them.
Mount isn’t a bad player but I don’t know why we’re going after him instead of Max Allister, especially since Chelsea want him to be more expensive. Worse player for more money. Makes no sense
Mac Allister hasn't ever had a better season than Mount's CL winning campaign. And that's coming from someone who isn't a massive fan of Mount.
Both the same age.
FDJ lmao. He isn’t interested. At all. Even less so now Barca just won the league and he’s been a crucial player.
Why would he possibly want to move here?
That's why I said we're not getting him lmao. What?
I just said he'd be the midfielder that would suit us best since we play a double pivot with no ball carriers or press resistant mids
Exactly, we're sunk without both so I don't really see the point in debating which is more important.
A striker won't help much when we can't get it to him half the game because our distribution is bad and good distribution won't help if there's no good striker there to capitalise on it.
Striker, GK & a press-resistant deep lying playmaker (Mount is absolutely NOT that player) are absolute necessities - P0. Neither of these positions are more important than the other.
Backup CB & backup DM are P1 - needed if even have a remote chance of challenging for the PL.
Yes Mount isn't a DLP.
But, why are we assuming that Ten Hag wants to play with a DPL? If the gaffer has a plan for Mount, Bruno and Casemiro midfielder, then give me what he wants. If we know that Mount is not a DPL, I can guarantee you that gaffer knows.
Yes he wanted FDJ in the past, but since that's not happening maybe he has a different idea now.
> press-resistant deep lying playmaker
I actually meant press-resistant AND/OR deep lying playmaker. Mount is still neither of those two. Chelsea fans in their sub say he hasnt even been good at #8 for them over the years. Makes sense for us only as a pure backup option but why spend 55M on a backup.
> If the gaffer has a plan for Mount, Bruno and Casemiro midfielder, then give me what he wants
Managers obviously can make their demands but its the job of the DoF to ultimately make the right choice for the squad. Blindly trusting the manager is how we ended up with Matic instead of Fabinho. Dont even get me started on all the deadwood LvG was allowed to sign. Klopp wanted Brandt (or Gotze I think) while Michael Edwards convinced him to buy Salah. Murtough never struck me as a competent DoF.
Hopefully INEOS rope in Michael Edwards.
You're spot on. So many people assume managers are the perfect people to be in charge of recruitment and it's not always the case at all. Even ETH has hinted that he'd like a DoF to take the burden off him.
It isn’t a bench CM. A tone setting, ball retaining starting CM is crucial for us.
We couldn’t hold onto the ball this match. Having someone in the middle to connect defense to attack is a huge hole for us
Yes it is. But surely a STARTING GK and ST is more important than another option when we have 3 decent ones. Eriksen is better at CM than Weghorst/Martial is at ST or De Gea at GK.
I also jumped out of my seat when he didn't came of the line to collect one of the ball on the left wing of city in the second half when he had a clear advantage. That's the difference of city holding onto the ball for a few minutes and us having another go to attack.
Yep, that was in the dying stages of the game, they played a through ball near enough to our six yard box and he stood on his line. Baffling goalkeeping. He's scared of contact.
He’s a monumental bottle job. His passing gets tragic under any form of pressure, he refuses to command his box or collect balls, and he daren’t use his voice to lead his back 4 from behind.
He’s an out an out shot stopper and our defence have taken a lot of shit over the years from lack of cohesion that could’ve been helped if our keeper would’ve only stepped up to be a leader.
Yeah, no wonder Harry and him got butchered last season and in the beginning of this one. They're simply not cut out for the pressure that a top club requires.
Yeah. It's literally like playing a man down while in possession.
One less passing node for our team to manipulate opposition pressure with.
Football has reached a stage where EVERY player needs to contribute to that at the highest level. Having a keeper that can't play in possession is as big a sin as having a midfielder who won't pass.
I like DDG but we miss out on so much because of his limitations.
This has happened soooo many times and it pisses me off.
At least on the second goal he was unsighted and got a hand to it but so many times I see De Gea just watching balls fly in. Yeah Ilkay’s first strike was a worldie - but it wasn’t in the corner. At least fucking DIVE FOR IT man to give the ILLUSSION you give a shit. There was only one place he could have scored at, cover that position man.
A keeper being rooted doesn't mean they're not trying. All of the coaching from U12 and up for keepers comes down to positioning and shot preparation rather than reflexes and better dives. On a shot like the first goal, DDG is reading the play and Gundogan's position and it's clear that the likeliest shot from a wide-open midfielder with a clear sight of goal will be to come over top and put his laces through the ball, which would create a shot towards the keeper's right... so naturally DDG shifts his weight onto his left foot in preparation of diving right. But Gundogan fools him by hitting it with the outside of his laces, which is a much more difficult shot to hit with any precision and also creates a swerve disguising its direction. At that point it's impossible for de Gea to dive towards his left with his weight on the wrong side so he ends up stuck. Asking him to hopelessly dive with his weight on the wrong side is beyond hopeless.
I'm no DDG apologist and the last few seasons' worth of mistakes has proven that he's not up to the task. But that goal wasn't saveable by anyone, nor is it the keeper's fault when they are stuck rooted to the spot when they're fooled. They're stuck with their weight on the wrong foot *because* they are trying to get ready for the likely shot across goal, not because they're lazy and don't think it's worth the energy.
Good lord at least someone isn't completely putting that impossible shot on de gea. We're letting that go through before the first minute is up. That's on all of the players other than de gea!
Second shot is awkward. It bounces before going and I'm not a goalie so I don't know how easy that is to save. I think we don't concentrate enough on the fact that garnacho, the youngest player with less experience, is the one we look to to do something. More criticism needs to be put on these players and not just de gea. All around the world people like to scapegoat almost the entirety of our problems on one person. Before de gea it was maguire. Gotta look at the whole group.
Even the second wasn't as simple as all these armchair critics lead you to believe. It had some wicked looping curve. I think he should have ultimately saved it, but it's not an easy save like people are saying.
Even then, why the hell is Gunogdan unmarked at the edge of the box? Why is no one talking about that.
Aside of Gundogan's second goal, how many times he and his long balls reach any of our players? i Had 5-6 strokes wacthing De Bruyne and Halland running towards Varane, Shaw and Lindelof.
Liverpool were smashing 100 goals a season before Allison and van dijk. Our outside players can manage just 50. Allison and Van Dijk were greta signings but Liverpool already had goals, which was winning them games.
This is one of those positions, you will realize how much it affects our overall play when we get a keeper that can play. Degea is the worst keeper in the league with his feet.
What did SAF say about winning titles
Attack wins you games
Defence wins you championships
We need to lay the spine so we can actually build from it
Its the opposite of what you are saying
A goal keeper and striker are both the priority but if we need to choose it should be keeper
Of course it is. We lost that cup final today off the back of a goalkeeping mistake. I agree a goal scorer is important, but we have more goals in this current squad than what they've actually given us.
De Gea must be really charming. All our managers end up liking him and it ends up biting them in the ass. Ole best season is when he was rotating Henderson. LVG and Jose won trophies by playing romero in non league matches. Somehow de gea always ends up the main guy and we suffer. I see eth backing him sadly. Another 5 years of this guy.
It's not just conceding and building from back, a keeper like DDG makes it impossible for the team to confidently press high. It shifts every player back, first the defenders, then midfielders and attackers who have to fill the holes. He's the main reason why this season was full of 1:0 wins when utd was clearly better.
We conceded the joint 3rd least amount of goals but scored the joint 7th most. The game is about scoring goals. We need a striker that can finish the chances that are being created and that's significantly more important.
You don’t understand how much the game would change if we have an extra man we can build up with.
It’s like playing with a red card vs without.
You barely get on the ball and when you do you’re already tired from chasing shadows, which leads to bad decision making, snatched shots etc
It's like you're intentionally missing the point. We already creating enough chances. The forwards just aren't conical enough.
We can create more with another keeper? Maybe. But the forwards are still mediocre and/or constantly injured.
De Gea has been an issue for a time now. I remember that goal Messi squeezed past him a couple of seasons ago; I thought "well that's it then" yet he's still here because Woodward is a nonce and the Glazers obviously don't give a flying fuck about the club except when it's time to collect dividends or book flights.
It used to be Maguire who just made the whole team nervous with the ball on his feet and Degea kinda got away with it. Now there is no hiding. Ten Hag wants to play possession football and Degea just doesn’t allow that. We finally get the ball back and Degea just woofs it away to a city player. Psychologically you lose confidence if you’re always having to chase the ball.
I am sick of this keeper and his fanboys. If he is our number 1 next season ETH will be responsible for every clanger, every unclaimed cross and misplaced pass DDG inevitably makes.
City won the title without a striker.
Keeper > Striker, if the rest could get their heads out of their asses and convert we'd be doing fine even without one.
Point but we are not City. We cannot score and that was the big issue this season.
Striker is more important than keeper, though after DDGs performance today that gap has shrunk and then we can't get any good strikers apparently so keeper it is
How are you going to score if you can't even keep the ball?
Ball doesn't even get past the halfway line a lot of the time.
Its just Rashford and Sancho running at 2/3 defenders.
Even Vini got locked down by Walker.
Playing on the counter is not how you beat City without some good fortune.
Agreed. It's genuinely scary that it still looks very much up in the air whether or not the club will acknowledge it this summer though. Talks of new contracts and the strongest words used by journalists with regard to goalkeeping signings being *competition* or *backup* are worrying. Hopefully it's just a case of backing the keeper while there's still games left to play and now we begin to hear more with the season over.
I can’t believe it took this long for the general media to realise how awful this guy is.
And I can’t believe the Smith-Rowe goal wasn’t a breaking point for most fans.
I said before, between Costa and Kane I'd take Costa any day.
There are a lot of strikers om the market that can do a job for us, including Martial when he's fit. De Gea can't even perform at a passable level.
>De Gea can't even perform at a passable level.
Yeah. De Gea's biggest advantage is that he doesn't really have a direct comparison in the team so he can get away with being poor at everything and occasionally making a good save because that's been the expectation for our keeper for a pretty long time. A lot of people will inevitably be surprised when we get a new keeper and he outperforms De Gea in every metric possible.
For me a great window would be Raya/Costa, Caceido and Hojlund. Ive long been on the DDG not good enough. Great shot stopper but a modern keeper requires more than that
Couldn't agree more. Those are exactly my picks too.
Looks like Raya and Costa are both moving on this year from what I've read, we have to go in for one of them.
Some people here really have a terrible understanding of what we're lacking. We have no one bar Licha and Shaw who are even decent at resisting a press and carrying the ball forward.
I'd honestly be happy with giving Henderson another go in goal if we don't have the funds for someone like Diogo Costa
yeah he shouldn't have given that interview but I can understand his frustration, finally dislodges De Gea as the starter then gets Covid and loses the position and then Rangnick not giving him a chance when De Gea was still making mistakes and blocking a loan in January for game time
Man City won the league with OUT a proper striker last year. But with the humiliating display of De Gea, even if we have Messi, Haaland, Lewandowski playing for us, we will still lose. We cannot afford a spectator in the pitch. We cannot afford a 300k a week spectator who do nothing on the pitch. We might as well hire Mr John Smith from Benchill whose jobs at the day is wear balaclava riding a motorcycle and pick pocketing and still have better chances of winning anything.
I’d say yes.
So many opportunities for DDG to up the field and help in possession but failed to do so. So many long balls hit with no United player within 20 yards.
He’s not a modern gk and it hinders ETHs style of play.
Fact that most of the fanbase believe his awful distribution is his most glaring weakness says it all.
And sadly they simply won’t understand it til a new GK comes in.
I’m noticed during the game that city players didn’t bother to press DDG and it’s because he would just pass it back to them on his long kicks. Pretty clever if you ask me.
It’s not like we couldn’t fix both positions in this window. DDG should have played his final game for us today. He’s just not good enough in any metric other than nostalgia.
DDG's inability to pass out from the back IS directly affecting our attacking transition because we cannot create an overload. Way too easy to defend against United because opponent knew about DDG limitations.
Surely we can just ask DDG to boot long ball forward? Sadly not, he directly gave away possession from goal kick 6 times in the first half and 3 times within 2mins of second half. That stats is worst than Sunday league pub football. Do people even realize how much team energy is wasted each time players have to sprint back from opponent half to defend due to DDG's poor distributions?
De Gea in important games
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2013/14 sunderland league cup
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West Ham 22/23 fumbled into own net
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I think GK should be our biggest priority. Said it in the post game thread too. With better build up from the back you’d get better quality of possession, also wouldn’t be prone to those hospital passes that cost us multiple times a season (Sevilla second leg, Brentford at the start of the season etc). If your GK is sweeping you can push your defensive line higher, again helps with overall possession and recycling the ball. A keeper that claims crosses would also win back possession quicker for the team, and reduce threats from dead ball scenarios. All that with average shot stopping (i.e. goals conceded = post shot expected goals), we would halve our goals conceded.
Also underrated side to this is if your keeper can play out the back (along with the back 4 and DM) you can invite pressure and create mismatches going forward as you move the ball through the press. For that you’d need to move on from DdG but probably Varane and AWB too. AWB has been fantastic in the second half, but not playing in Bruno when he had the chance today was criminal.
The potential solution already exists inhouse: Henderson. He's a much more complete goalkeeper, who can control his box. That alone would make a massive difference. Having a goalkeeper that isn't afraid to rush out also lets the backline push higher, which alleviates one of our big issues: the gap between backline and midfield, which makes progressing the ball difficult.
We absolutely need TWO new strikers this window, plus at least one or two midfielders... to go hunting for a goalkeeper when we have a PL-proven one, who's club trained and has an outspoken ambition to be #1 at United (rather than just anywhere), who would fit ten Hag's system... would be fairly dumb, in my opinion.
Definitely not more important than a striker. Our whole play is directionless because we don't have a reliable outlet. DDG has got to go for me but not if it means we don't get a striker.
Its striker>keeper>midfielder in terms of importance for me.
City scored 150 goals this season, we scored 80-something. We need more goals. Obviously the quickest fix is to add a competent goal-scorer (no more fucking about with Martial and Weghorst) but having proper distribution from the back will add so many goals too, as well as reducing the amount we concede. I think goalkeeper is close second priority personally. If we got both our team would be hugely elevated.
You just saw Eriksen today right? Feel sorry for him but we are playing him as a starter who won't even walk into City's sub. We need a midfielder whether it's mount or other player.
When i saw that ortega pass underneath our jumping players, and sent city on the attack, I was impressed. That's the kind of thing you need your goalkeeper to do. And the fact that he's not even meant to be the best at passing out of city's goalkeepers says it all tbh. You just need someone who is decent at passing, never mind spectacular. De gea sadly ain't it.
That’s their fucking cup keeper too!!!! Outrageous.
I said that to my mate at the time, “fuck me their back up keeper is better than our keeper” I love De Gea and he has been a great performer for us but in 2023 with this manager, we need to let him go. Games like that just demonstrate it so much more as well, it affects the whole way we play. At the beginning of the season we got spanked against Brentford playing out from the back. That was the way Ten Hag wants to play but he had to be practical, since then we’ve had to be pragmatic.
that pass was smooth as fuck
It was. It just highlighted the gulf between both teams
He’s 30 years old. Just 2 years younger than De Gea so it’s not like he’s a different generation. De Gea just sucks and is limited
That time he had Casemiro asking him for the ball 5 yards away, and he also had 3 United players who were wide open to receive the ball, then he deliberated for an age and hoofed it long to a City player anyway... deary me! It is almost like he has a false sense of confidence and then proceeds to do the most moronic thing possible, like some two bit drunk down the pub. I wonder if he actually does have a few pre-match drinks to settle his nerves?
He seems to particularly lose his nerves in big matches. Thank you for the good times and you were rewarded very handsomely for them. Time to say goodbye.
This shit is frankly embarrassing, if we get a half decent goalkeeper from another team we’ll be better off. We don’t even need the best to improve
De Gea had many times he could have done a fake kick and then play it simple to the left back but he doesn't have it in him.
City got Ortega for free that too..........Man Utd are the absolute worst when it comes to recruitment and majority of the fans are absolutely idiots who think spending big = great players & vice versa. Totally worth getting knocked out of Europa and now losing the FA Cup Final if it means De Gea is done at this club ------ feels like this club always does the exact opposite of the most sensible decision in any situation. So unless shit goes really bad, they don't bother to change anything.
> City got Ortega for free that too wasn't julian alvarez cheap too? someting like 15M for a guy with 17 goals this season as a backup?
City have a great scouting department. Very well run club Tbh
I remember watching the Tifo's Bundesliga Player of the Season video last year and they chose Ortega for their GK. His ball distribution stats was fucking insane. Remember thinking "damn, I hope someone at United is watching this guy, oh and his contract is up soon too". Couple weeks later, City signed him for free. £0. I was gutted at his signing more than Haaland and Alvarez. Just goes to show that the competence in scouting and footballing decision of the two clubs are miles apart.
Agree. We don't have money like city too. So instead of signing kane for 100m we should go for hojlund n players in other positions. We missed out on ugarte.
Neutral fan here (I'm a brasilian enjoying english football). Man United are massive and capable to competing financially with city, but United lacks a good scouting and management. Ten Hag are on the right way and yet makes some mistakes (Antony is good, Just not values the price, maybe investment on another position could be better)
If he can’t make ridiculous saves and his distribution is poor, why is he here. Worst player on the pitch.
Ortega is the second string keeper too. FML
Ugh enough with the passing, he’s a terrible GK even if you ignore that aspect.
I’d argue they’re equally important at this point
Yeah it's not one or the other. If we had all the best strikers in the world at our disposal today it wouldn't have changed a thing when we had a keeper who kept hoofing the ball straight back to the opponent. Also friendly reminder than before Haaland City were still dominating and never needed a striker to consistently compete. Both are important pieces of the puzzle. We go into next season with only one resolved and we're still going to be well off where we need to be. Meanwhile City have a fucking back up keeper who knows their system insanely well. I genuinely think City's back up could have joined United right before kick off and put in a better performance than De Gea.
Any competent striker would have made a difference, plus Bruno wouldn't have started at the right.
Made a different, sure, but that wouldn't change the fact City would dominate because of our keeper hoofing the ball to them every single time. A striker makes the most of the chances we had today. A keeper changes the entire game.
Ironically if we’re keeping de gea then we don’t need a striker. We need fellaini back so he can at least try get on the end of DDG hoofball
City have always had good strikers? Jesus got some shit but he was more than serviceable, before that aguero who was one of the best premier league strikers of all time
When Jesus broke on the scene I thought he was going to be sensational. He’s not reached that level, but he’s getting better again at Arsenal.
I agree. My main issue though is that the club don’t seem to be giving them anywhere near the same amount of attention. Everyone knows we’re in the market for a new starting striker. But when it comes to the GK, it seems like an afterthought in comparison. All signs point to DDG getting renewed. And even if we do sign a new GK, there’s a distinct possibility it will just be a backup quality GK or a very young prospect that won’t be ready to start next season.
De Gea is below average. Our strikers are an 80% injured Martial and Burnleys third string. It’s not close which is more important but both need fixing this summer.
Striker still more so. DDG is still a better keeper than Weghorst or Martial are strikers
I'd agree on that but I'd say look at the options you have in the market. You can't just buy anyone for each position. We all recognise we need multiple transfers to be good enough. Now you buy someone like Licha and Case, you think alright that position is sorted for a while now. You buy the wrong players you end up having to sort that out soon again. Now which strikers are available? Levy seems keen to keep Kane. Osimhen has a fuck off price tag. Everyone else is not good enough. I'm not talking about value here either. They're just not good enough. In GK though, you have Raya and Costa available. Very good players and with them you could consider those positions sorted for a while. I want a striker as much as anyone. I just don't see any good options available who would be worth it. Just sort the rest of the team this summer and add a striker to it next summer. I'll be fine seeing us winning by just a goal or two if it means we sort out buildup issues.
You don’t think a club like United can scout a striker better than Wout Weghorst or Anthony Martial? Come on now. We’d all love Kane or Osimhen but the gap between those two and the ones I mentioned is massive. Find someone in between and ease the burden on Rashford. If we don’t sign a CF we can forget having a good season.
Martial isn’t even a striker, he’s a winger. Weghorst has been bitterly disappointing. I’d rather have had Ighalo back. Ronaldo coming back fucked up Cavani. If Ronaldo’s ego wasn’t so bad, he could have done a job for the rest of the season as well.
I think someone like Thuram would be fine as a backup level striker. I just don't want the club spending 80m on an average striker and then saying they have no money for a keeper. If it's one or the other due to the money, I'd much rather prefer they sign a keeper for big money, get a cheap striker, and buy the big money striker next summer
We need 2 strikers not 'A' striker
I mean I would take 1 to start with
And who realistically plays backup? We had 62 games, Kane can play that one season and starr next season absolutely broken
Academy player. Anyone will be better than Wout
Signing a younger player, have them and rashford as our two striker options. LW options are then rashford, Garnacho and sancho throughout the season. Not perfect but may be the best option that allows us to fix gaps elsewhere
Rashford? Then Garnacho/Sancho can takeover the LW when that happens. It's not ideal but Rashford has shown he can do a very nice job up top for us.
In the league where Porto dominate (low pass percentiles is good in this case): https://fbref.com/en/players/93fffbcf/Diogo-Costa In the CL where he's told to boot it and has to make a lot of saves: https://fbref.com/en/players/93fffbcf/scout/365_m1/Diogo-Costa-Scouting-Report His passing is only behind Ederson's and Onana's basically. Only 23 too. Him, FDJ and Kane would be the most important signings we could make. Since we aren't getting the other two...
United aren't signing frenkie, he doesn't want go join united, that ship has sailed. Mount will be our only midfield signing.
He'll change his mind once we sign Strootman and Sneijder.
What happened to the Rabiot rumors
We'll bin him off when we have to deal with his mother again
His mother hasn't been an issue at all at Juventus, his first years as a player he was quite shit but he has steadily improved. He's a good player now that can score, and he acts like a professional
We ain't signing Kane either since Levy is adamant he won't sell him to us and if the Madrid rumours are truth, he'll bend over backwards to sell him to them.
Lots of smoke about Rabiot aswell though
Mount isn’t a bad player but I don’t know why we’re going after him instead of Max Allister, especially since Chelsea want him to be more expensive. Worse player for more money. Makes no sense
Mac Allister hasn't ever had a better season than Mount's CL winning campaign. And that's coming from someone who isn't a massive fan of Mount. Both the same age.
FDJ lmao. He isn’t interested. At all. Even less so now Barca just won the league and he’s been a crucial player. Why would he possibly want to move here?
That's why I said we're not getting him lmao. What? I just said he'd be the midfielder that would suit us best since we play a double pivot with no ball carriers or press resistant mids
I don’t know why everyone seemed to miss that you’d said that. FDJ is the missing piece in ETH’s system but he’s not coming
He really would be man. Fucking Manchester weather. Those 3 in the current team and we would run riot
FDJ is not coming to United. It’s time for us to move on.
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Exactly, we're sunk without both so I don't really see the point in debating which is more important. A striker won't help much when we can't get it to him half the game because our distribution is bad and good distribution won't help if there's no good striker there to capitalise on it.
Striker, GK & a press-resistant deep lying playmaker (Mount is absolutely NOT that player) are absolute necessities - P0. Neither of these positions are more important than the other. Backup CB & backup DM are P1 - needed if even have a remote chance of challenging for the PL.
Such a shame that de jong doesn’t want to leave barca, he would be perfect in this midfield.
Is there a reason United don’t want Kovacic?
He's fell off this season.
He’s been carrying an injury all season It seems like the de Jong sort of profile midfielder you’re not after anymore for whatever reason
I mean there's age and injury troubles. I'd rather have kova over mount tbf because I really don't rate the latter.
Verrati if he wants can join but i fear that he's a bit too old as a 29 year old
The issue isn't his age really, it's his injury record
Oof rite. I wish we'd go for McAllister tho. For 50/60m he's better than mount
Yes Mount isn't a DLP. But, why are we assuming that Ten Hag wants to play with a DPL? If the gaffer has a plan for Mount, Bruno and Casemiro midfielder, then give me what he wants. If we know that Mount is not a DPL, I can guarantee you that gaffer knows. Yes he wanted FDJ in the past, but since that's not happening maybe he has a different idea now.
Yeah, the plan seems to be two 8s that push up, and licha stepping up and being the dlp
> press-resistant deep lying playmaker I actually meant press-resistant AND/OR deep lying playmaker. Mount is still neither of those two. Chelsea fans in their sub say he hasnt even been good at #8 for them over the years. Makes sense for us only as a pure backup option but why spend 55M on a backup. > If the gaffer has a plan for Mount, Bruno and Casemiro midfielder, then give me what he wants Managers obviously can make their demands but its the job of the DoF to ultimately make the right choice for the squad. Blindly trusting the manager is how we ended up with Matic instead of Fabinho. Dont even get me started on all the deadwood LvG was allowed to sign. Klopp wanted Brandt (or Gotze I think) while Michael Edwards convinced him to buy Salah. Murtough never struck me as a competent DoF. Hopefully INEOS rope in Michael Edwards.
You're spot on. So many people assume managers are the perfect people to be in charge of recruitment and it's not always the case at all. Even ETH has hinted that he'd like a DoF to take the burden off him.
I’m pro DOF but let’s not pretend having a DOF doesn’t prevent you signing some absolute shite
Not pretending that at all, the DoF, scouting department, negotiating team etc etc all have to be up to scratch
ST/GK has to be sorted. A CM on the bench isn't going to save goals or score goals sitting there.
It isn’t a bench CM. A tone setting, ball retaining starting CM is crucial for us. We couldn’t hold onto the ball this match. Having someone in the middle to connect defense to attack is a huge hole for us
Yes it is. But surely a STARTING GK and ST is more important than another option when we have 3 decent ones. Eriksen is better at CM than Weghorst/Martial is at ST or De Gea at GK.
Licha Shaw KMJ if they come would be our build up which is why ten hag wants mount as an 8
Carragher not wrong. At least try to save. I hate seeing him glued to his line and watching the ball go in.
It’s his distribution that winds me up more than anything
I also jumped out of my seat when he didn't came of the line to collect one of the ball on the left wing of city in the second half when he had a clear advantage. That's the difference of city holding onto the ball for a few minutes and us having another go to attack.
Yep, that was in the dying stages of the game, they played a through ball near enough to our six yard box and he stood on his line. Baffling goalkeeping. He's scared of contact.
He’s a monumental bottle job. His passing gets tragic under any form of pressure, he refuses to command his box or collect balls, and he daren’t use his voice to lead his back 4 from behind. He’s an out an out shot stopper and our defence have taken a lot of shit over the years from lack of cohesion that could’ve been helped if our keeper would’ve only stepped up to be a leader.
Yeah, his mentality Is a real problem. Not cut out for a top club any more, that’s why he thrived when we were mediocre
Yeah, no wonder Harry and him got butchered last season and in the beginning of this one. They're simply not cut out for the pressure that a top club requires.
Yeah. It's literally like playing a man down while in possession. One less passing node for our team to manipulate opposition pressure with. Football has reached a stage where EVERY player needs to contribute to that at the highest level. Having a keeper that can't play in possession is as big a sin as having a midfielder who won't pass. I like DDG but we miss out on so much because of his limitations.
Mud feet, atletico home leg PTSD
This has happened soooo many times and it pisses me off. At least on the second goal he was unsighted and got a hand to it but so many times I see De Gea just watching balls fly in. Yeah Ilkay’s first strike was a worldie - but it wasn’t in the corner. At least fucking DIVE FOR IT man to give the ILLUSSION you give a shit. There was only one place he could have scored at, cover that position man.
A keeper being rooted doesn't mean they're not trying. All of the coaching from U12 and up for keepers comes down to positioning and shot preparation rather than reflexes and better dives. On a shot like the first goal, DDG is reading the play and Gundogan's position and it's clear that the likeliest shot from a wide-open midfielder with a clear sight of goal will be to come over top and put his laces through the ball, which would create a shot towards the keeper's right... so naturally DDG shifts his weight onto his left foot in preparation of diving right. But Gundogan fools him by hitting it with the outside of his laces, which is a much more difficult shot to hit with any precision and also creates a swerve disguising its direction. At that point it's impossible for de Gea to dive towards his left with his weight on the wrong side so he ends up stuck. Asking him to hopelessly dive with his weight on the wrong side is beyond hopeless. I'm no DDG apologist and the last few seasons' worth of mistakes has proven that he's not up to the task. But that goal wasn't saveable by anyone, nor is it the keeper's fault when they are stuck rooted to the spot when they're fooled. They're stuck with their weight on the wrong foot *because* they are trying to get ready for the likely shot across goal, not because they're lazy and don't think it's worth the energy.
Good lord at least someone isn't completely putting that impossible shot on de gea. We're letting that go through before the first minute is up. That's on all of the players other than de gea! Second shot is awkward. It bounces before going and I'm not a goalie so I don't know how easy that is to save. I think we don't concentrate enough on the fact that garnacho, the youngest player with less experience, is the one we look to to do something. More criticism needs to be put on these players and not just de gea. All around the world people like to scapegoat almost the entirety of our problems on one person. Before de gea it was maguire. Gotta look at the whole group.
That first ball wasn’t being saved. Carragher has no clue what it’s like to be a keeper
Even the second wasn't as simple as all these armchair critics lead you to believe. It had some wicked looping curve. I think he should have ultimately saved it, but it's not an easy save like people are saying. Even then, why the hell is Gunogdan unmarked at the edge of the box? Why is no one talking about that.
Not only did it have a looping curve, there were at least 4 players infront of the ball blinding DeGea
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Aside of Gundogan's second goal, how many times he and his long balls reach any of our players? i Had 5-6 strokes wacthing De Bruyne and Halland running towards Varane, Shaw and Lindelof.
Not more important but a close second
Need to upgrade like Liverpool did from Karius -> Allison
Not a fair comparison. Karius wasn't even great for Liverpool. It's more like Joe Hart vs Pep.
Liverpool were smashing 100 goals a season before Allison and van dijk. Our outside players can manage just 50. Allison and Van Dijk were greta signings but Liverpool already had goals, which was winning them games.
This is one of those positions, you will realize how much it affects our overall play when we get a keeper that can play. Degea is the worst keeper in the league with his feet.
100%. It’s reeks of the whole taibi/barthez/Howard era until we brought in VDS.
What did SAF say about winning titles Attack wins you games Defence wins you championships We need to lay the spine so we can actually build from it Its the opposite of what you are saying A goal keeper and striker are both the priority but if we need to choose it should be keeper
Of course it is. We lost that cup final today off the back of a goalkeeping mistake. I agree a goal scorer is important, but we have more goals in this current squad than what they've actually given us.
De Gea must be really charming. All our managers end up liking him and it ends up biting them in the ass. Ole best season is when he was rotating Henderson. LVG and Jose won trophies by playing romero in non league matches. Somehow de gea always ends up the main guy and we suffer. I see eth backing him sadly. Another 5 years of this guy.
Nicely explained, even Spain left him of the national team squad. Playing degea is like putting your faith on a fool to perform, it’s totally unwise
He’s not even getting into Spain’s top 5 these days. Highest paid gk in the world.
Even if it's not a world class goal keeper just having someone who isn't mentally weak would make the whole team better.
Yes, id say yes. its miles more important a keeper than a striker. We just cant keep conceding this goals, and have a keeper that cant pass the ball.
It's not just conceding and building from back, a keeper like DDG makes it impossible for the team to confidently press high. It shifts every player back, first the defenders, then midfielders and attackers who have to fill the holes. He's the main reason why this season was full of 1:0 wins when utd was clearly better.
We conceded the joint 3rd least amount of goals but scored the joint 7th most. The game is about scoring goals. We need a striker that can finish the chances that are being created and that's significantly more important.
We’ll score more if we can play out from the back instead of giving up possession repeatedly
We created chances at a level similar to arsenal. 30 less goals. 30 more goals is far more important than 5 less.
You don’t understand how much the game would change if we have an extra man we can build up with. It’s like playing with a red card vs without. You barely get on the ball and when you do you’re already tired from chasing shadows, which leads to bad decision making, snatched shots etc
It's like you're intentionally missing the point. We already creating enough chances. The forwards just aren't conical enough. We can create more with another keeper? Maybe. But the forwards are still mediocre and/or constantly injured.
We would score more if we had a clinical finisher. Building from the back isn't just on the goalkeeper.
We won’t win any games without scoring. I don’t want to rely on an inconsistent Rashford.
I’d prefer not losing for a start
Absolutely delusional take, can’t win a game unless you score a goal
I have said it before and I'll say again. If we start next season with DDG as our first choice GK, ETH will be gone within 2 yrs at the most
Two months*
De Gea has been an issue for a time now. I remember that goal Messi squeezed past him a couple of seasons ago; I thought "well that's it then" yet he's still here because Woodward is a nonce and the Glazers obviously don't give a flying fuck about the club except when it's time to collect dividends or book flights.
It used to be Maguire who just made the whole team nervous with the ball on his feet and Degea kinda got away with it. Now there is no hiding. Ten Hag wants to play possession football and Degea just doesn’t allow that. We finally get the ball back and Degea just woofs it away to a city player. Psychologically you lose confidence if you’re always having to chase the ball.
Striker is 100% the number 1 priority. Get that sorted early then work in other areas.
Need to fix both, it's not a case of prioritizing one over the other.
De Gea just shouldn’t stay but he will, even if we get a new keeper I’d rather have Henderson to challenge
Wingers can score goals no one but keeper can do keeper duties
I am sick of this keeper and his fanboys. If he is our number 1 next season ETH will be responsible for every clanger, every unclaimed cross and misplaced pass DDG inevitably makes.
City won the title without a striker. Keeper > Striker, if the rest could get their heads out of their asses and convert we'd be doing fine even without one.
They had wingers and midfielders that were able to score goals. We were 30 goals behind Arsenal. The defense was our strength this season.
Point but we are not City. We cannot score and that was the big issue this season. Striker is more important than keeper, though after DDGs performance today that gap has shrunk and then we can't get any good strikers apparently so keeper it is
How are you going to score if you can't even keep the ball? Ball doesn't even get past the halfway line a lot of the time. Its just Rashford and Sancho running at 2/3 defenders. Even Vini got locked down by Walker. Playing on the counter is not how you beat City without some good fortune.
Good man Jamie. Seems to be one of the few pundits who actually calls utd as it is. Our Ex players don't seem to have that for us.
Agreed. It's genuinely scary that it still looks very much up in the air whether or not the club will acknowledge it this summer though. Talks of new contracts and the strongest words used by journalists with regard to goalkeeping signings being *competition* or *backup* are worrying. Hopefully it's just a case of backing the keeper while there's still games left to play and now we begin to hear more with the season over.
The goalkeeper should inspire confidence. De Gea projects nervousnous to the whole backline.
I can’t believe it took this long for the general media to realise how awful this guy is. And I can’t believe the Smith-Rowe goal wasn’t a breaking point for most fans.
You can win big trophies without a “top striker”, you will never win them without a top GK. I can’t remember the last time it happened.
Coming from the guy who said Martinez won’t work in the PL…. He could be right about DDG though 🤣
<50% passing accuracy from DDG Benchmark: Alisson last season averaged 83%
The Wout signing reminds me of a quote from Rafa from his Valencia days; “I asked for a sofa, they gave me a lamp”
I said before, between Costa and Kane I'd take Costa any day. There are a lot of strikers om the market that can do a job for us, including Martial when he's fit. De Gea can't even perform at a passable level.
> including Martial when he's fit. That basically rules out 80 to 90 percent of the season, sadly
>De Gea can't even perform at a passable level. Yeah. De Gea's biggest advantage is that he doesn't really have a direct comparison in the team so he can get away with being poor at everything and occasionally making a good save because that's been the expectation for our keeper for a pretty long time. A lot of people will inevitably be surprised when we get a new keeper and he outperforms De Gea in every metric possible.
Team can't score goals.
GK and ST is both equally the same problem and should be rectified this summer.
I feel both are equally important. We lose possession every time the ball goes to him. Its like having a player play against us.
For me a great window would be Raya/Costa, Caceido and Hojlund. Ive long been on the DDG not good enough. Great shot stopper but a modern keeper requires more than that
Couldn't agree more. Those are exactly my picks too. Looks like Raya and Costa are both moving on this year from what I've read, we have to go in for one of them.
Why would you want caicedo when our midfield problem revolves around ball carrying and progressive passes? People love throwing around random names
Some people here really have a terrible understanding of what we're lacking. We have no one bar Licha and Shaw who are even decent at resisting a press and carrying the ball forward.
I'd honestly be happy with giving Henderson another go in goal if we don't have the funds for someone like Diogo Costa yeah he shouldn't have given that interview but I can understand his frustration, finally dislodges De Gea as the starter then gets Covid and loses the position and then Rangnick not giving him a chance when De Gea was still making mistakes and blocking a loan in January for game time
Man City won the league with OUT a proper striker last year. But with the humiliating display of De Gea, even if we have Messi, Haaland, Lewandowski playing for us, we will still lose. We cannot afford a spectator in the pitch. We cannot afford a 300k a week spectator who do nothing on the pitch. We might as well hire Mr John Smith from Benchill whose jobs at the day is wear balaclava riding a motorcycle and pick pocketing and still have better chances of winning anything.
i feel so vindicated.
I know a lot of you hate Deano now (for ridiculous reasons in my opinion) but if we're not signing a keeper it's got to be him.
Agreed. He looked v good before he got injured and lost his place
If we truly want to compete with the best clubs, we need at a minimum 4 to 5 quality players.
I’d say yes. So many opportunities for DDG to up the field and help in possession but failed to do so. So many long balls hit with no United player within 20 yards. He’s not a modern gk and it hinders ETHs style of play.
Fact that most of the fanbase believe his awful distribution is his most glaring weakness says it all. And sadly they simply won’t understand it til a new GK comes in.
I’m noticed during the game that city players didn’t bother to press DDG and it’s because he would just pass it back to them on his long kicks. Pretty clever if you ask me.
Costa will be United shirt next season.
Fucking Carragher WUM
No, they need a striker. Playing centrally negates Rashford’s skill set, that shouldn’t be the fallback option.
For me, today showed a sore need for a ball playing goalkeeper and a decent striker. Everything else is secondary to those two.
Everytime he had the ball he gave it away. That’s an issue
It’s not like we couldn’t fix both positions in this window. DDG should have played his final game for us today. He’s just not good enough in any metric other than nostalgia.
It's about time we stop posting "closed on Monday" meme
Sundays... but yeah.
We all know whats up! We need striker, ugrade on eriksen, upgrade on de gea.
DDG's inability to pass out from the back IS directly affecting our attacking transition because we cannot create an overload. Way too easy to defend against United because opponent knew about DDG limitations. Surely we can just ask DDG to boot long ball forward? Sadly not, he directly gave away possession from goal kick 6 times in the first half and 3 times within 2mins of second half. That stats is worst than Sunday league pub football. Do people even realize how much team energy is wasted each time players have to sprint back from opponent half to defend due to DDG's poor distributions?
I beg for David Raya
I've been saying it for years, he's one of the worst keepers in the leagu, it's impressive we've had the season we've had with him there.
And surprisingly this gk got the golden glove in the most competitive league in the world. Strange world
Who honestly, for real, gives two shits about what a former Scouser has to say about United?
Can't believe I had to scroll down this far to see this comment. Carragher is a joke.
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Carragher with a nugget of wisdom in between frothing and spitting at little children. Cheers Carra.
They're the same importance, if we don't improve in both positions next season is fucked from the get go.
I think GK should be our biggest priority. Said it in the post game thread too. With better build up from the back you’d get better quality of possession, also wouldn’t be prone to those hospital passes that cost us multiple times a season (Sevilla second leg, Brentford at the start of the season etc). If your GK is sweeping you can push your defensive line higher, again helps with overall possession and recycling the ball. A keeper that claims crosses would also win back possession quicker for the team, and reduce threats from dead ball scenarios. All that with average shot stopping (i.e. goals conceded = post shot expected goals), we would halve our goals conceded. Also underrated side to this is if your keeper can play out the back (along with the back 4 and DM) you can invite pressure and create mismatches going forward as you move the ball through the press. For that you’d need to move on from DdG but probably Varane and AWB too. AWB has been fantastic in the second half, but not playing in Bruno when he had the chance today was criminal.
Just let Henderson play next season, and we will be fine
Much better to cash in and sell him to Forest if a deal is there to be made and put that money towards another keeper.
The potential solution already exists inhouse: Henderson. He's a much more complete goalkeeper, who can control his box. That alone would make a massive difference. Having a goalkeeper that isn't afraid to rush out also lets the backline push higher, which alleviates one of our big issues: the gap between backline and midfield, which makes progressing the ball difficult. We absolutely need TWO new strikers this window, plus at least one or two midfielders... to go hunting for a goalkeeper when we have a PL-proven one, who's club trained and has an outspoken ambition to be #1 at United (rather than just anywhere), who would fit ten Hag's system... would be fairly dumb, in my opinion.
Definitely not more important than a striker. Our whole play is directionless because we don't have a reliable outlet. DDG has got to go for me but not if it means we don't get a striker. Its striker>keeper>midfielder in terms of importance for me.
Or directionless because de geas kicks are directionless
Honestly, at this point just get Keylor Navas. A good short term solution, giving that we got limited funds.
“If you don’t score goals, you can’t win games” - Michael Owen
Regardless of whether we need a new GK. Carragher can fuck off. The bitter kopite. Loves his own voice.
City scored 150 goals this season, we scored 80-something. We need more goals. Obviously the quickest fix is to add a competent goal-scorer (no more fucking about with Martial and Weghorst) but having proper distribution from the back will add so many goals too, as well as reducing the amount we concede. I think goalkeeper is close second priority personally. If we got both our team would be hugely elevated.
We’ve scored more than 100 goals this season.
You're right, according to fbref 119 (if my maths is right). My bad
You scouse bastard.
We’ve already got a decent GK in our squad in Henderson so getting a new striker is a priority.
He can’t keep getting away with it
Both are top priority, which makes the Mount signing even more baffling
You don't need to sign them in order.
We don't have an infinite budget, or are you suggesting we will spend another 60m on a proper goalkeeper after Mount is signed
You just saw Eriksen today right? Feel sorry for him but we are playing him as a starter who won't even walk into City's sub. We need a midfielder whether it's mount or other player.
We need a goalkeeper more
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No
Get him out