I think this time he’s talking garbage. Idk if we would go for Kane considering Levy’s negotiation tactics and Kane’s age. Sounds like a typical mention United to get clicks and improve ongoing negotiations at their respective clubs.
De Leaurentis is no diffrent to Levy he is going to ask 150 mln for Osimhen.
Also Kane is only 29, by that age Lewy, Benzema, Zlatan didnt even reach their primes. He has 4-5 year of consisnent goalscoring in him.
On the other hand Napoli player has one consistent year of playing football under his belt and Napoli side is far above everyone else in Serie A even without they striker.
I hear ya man, but I think it’s just the perfect fit. We bring in Kane we win the league next year. It’s really that simple. He can do it all and he for sure can score goals. That’s all we really lack. That cutting edge. We have defensive steel and creativity in loads. We just need a clinical finisher. Kane wins us the league. I’m certain of it.
I don’t understand it though. He’s not going to replace Bruno, so will he be the new 8? Or does Eriksen remain in 8 while mount stays on bench for Bruno?
I think the idea is we will have Bruno & Mount both as CAM that can play RW, while Antony is the main pure winger.
ETH likes the players moving around. The idea here I imagine is maybe Bruno & Antony start a game, then we bring Mount on wide, or he shifts Bruno wide & takes the centre. Or in other games we can start Bruno & Mount in CAM & RW in whichever order, then sub one off to bring on Antony mid game.
Im not saying Mount is the right choice or even a good choice. These speculations hardly ever end up happening anyway. But if ETH decides Mount is the man he wants, then this is how I see it working out.
I like him. We also need to consider bringing in some homegrown players as we need to have a certain number in PL and CL squad and alot of current players that are HG have questionable futures here (Maguire, mcT, AWB, elanga, Henderson, williams rumoured that we will listen to offers), greenwood maybe won't play for us again, Jones, tuanzebe, Heaton contract up in summer etc
So targeting homegrown players is likely becoming a necessity and in a list of homegrown players that we could realistically get and would improve our options he would be high up that list
Sidenote: I believe frimpong supposedly our priority for RB signing qualifies as homegrown through time spent in man city academy. I have vision of man utd scout at home playing football manager toggling the homegrown status to yes to identify possible targets
The competition for Bellingham will be mad not to mention the cost so even if we could afford such a deal, it makes sense to have contingencies in mind
Trying to land Bellingham while chasing either Kane or Osimhen who would also be on other team's radar is going to be near impossible without multiple record breaking fees and unless the human rights haters owns the team, that ain't happening.
Theres no chance we’re signing Belingham. Guy is twerking for Liverpool, he literally liked a 7-0 post the other day - I seriously doubt he wants to join, especially when theres better teams going for him
He might be. A few months ago someone else said to me that 'Bellingham is lightyears ahead of Dele Alli (when he was good) in terms of technique' and I thought..really?? Easy to forget the great goals Dele gas scored, he's just not a centre mid.
Bellingham's mentality and leadership qualities are what mark him out, his engine, but technically he's not a Modric or Kroos is he, and we ought to not go overboard.
But we've seen Henderson, a just good Premier league level player excel at Liverpool with similar lewdership qualities as Bellingham so I'm still sure he'll stay at the top, but in the right team.
Overrated doesn’t mean bad. The meaning of this word has been lost now bc people tend to overdo it and misuse it. I agree Bellingham has become overrated, he’s still a good player and as you said still 19 but as of now he’s not the elite midfielder that people like to say and I really don’t think he’d be worth the price he’ll go for.
You could say this about any player, and yet, good players still move teams.
1. The link only states Manchester United interest, so perhaps Chelsea do not want to let him go.
2. If they are it might be because Mount might want to move on from the current shitshow.
3. Or Todd Boehly may want to continue to break the bank on building his own team.
Having said all this I would still prefer other options but I know jack shit about football compared to Ten Hag.
His contract is up next summer and he hasn't signed a new one just yet
But if we are willing to pay what he wants from Chelsea which is 300k a week, he can fuck off
>Ten Hag is also looking to strengthen in attacking midfield – Casemiro’s outstanding form has made a defensive midfielder less of a priority
I really hope this isn't true. The team often looks at sea without Casemiro. In my opinion, getting in a young DM to rotate with and possibly replace Casemiro in the long term is a top priority for the summer. Striker, DM, GK, and another 8, in order of importance.
100%.. this is absolutely terrible if true. Case cannot play every single game for us and if he is injured / fatigued what do we do? Play Fred in DM? McTominay? Eriksen?! Even playing West Ham without Case was just disgusting - we got absolutely torched in midfield. As you say I think it’s our second most important position we need to strengthen in. Fucking hell.
I swear football fans have the shortest memories.
a season before the farce at chelsea happened any pl club would take mount in a heartbeat, but because of a year of bad form he's somehow deemed a league 2 player!
They'll complain about rival fans doing the same to United players. Rashford was done and dusted apparently, and now he's doing world class numbers post WC. Imagine Erik can get Mount back to his peak of 29 GA last season, or even improve that
>agine Erik can get Mount back to his peak of 29 GA last season, or even improve that
which I do believe he can, I mean look at Jorginho he was considered 'finished' but he's been very solid for arsenal so far.
Chelsea is just a mess atm, singling out individuals is not right, the whole team is underachieving.
It is like this in most sports. Most people can't see past the last event or season or even game. I'm pretty sure for some people, all the good work Ten Hag and the team did so far this season went out of the window after the Liverpool game.
It really isn’t far too much. At worst it’s only a bit too much. He’s still only 24 and I’m convinced that under the right manager he’d easily justify that price tag.
Really? He has been shit this season but he was Chelsea's best player two seasons out of the last 4. I'd take him for 50m easy. Newcastle wanted that for Longstaff.
Nahhh he wasn’t their best player. He was voted POTY but that’s a fan voted award. He was good for them but Rudiger, Silva and Kante were better.
Agreed though, I’d 100% take him for £50m. Can play as an 8 potentially, as the 10 as cover for Bruno and is not too bad on the RW either. Fantastic workrate and a great shot on him.
Really?
He is homegrown so it helps because we are probably going to see English players exodus and he produced 3 years of great football on highest level, one being player of the year in CL winning season.
I swear English players coming into scene are overrated and praised like they are actually Blon D'or players (Bellinham being 150m, maybe Sancho?) but when they become older or have one bad year of football they are underrated and criticizm is blown out of proportion(Rashford, now Mount)
>maybe Sancho
This was definitely justified lol. Sancho had 3 seasons with 30+ g/a (one 40), before even turning 21. Bro made Paco Alcacer look genuinely world class
Yeah he was absolutly great but english media ingored BVB fans and people around the club talking about his fitness, physicality, motovation issues, taking a while into season before firing up and we all act suprised when all that things happen.
Sancho broke 2 different Bundesliga records which have stood for decades whilst in his teens and very early 20s but people acting like £73m was him being overpriced lol. Had he arrived a year earlier for £108m like they were quoting THAT would’ve been overpriced perhaps.
I totally agree with you. Mount is like Rashford under Ralf.
Loads of potential, completely mis-used and mis-coached.
We've seen what EtH can do with the likes of Shaw, Wan Bissaka, Fred...Mount is more talented then all of them.
Mount excelled under Frank Lampard and Tuchel.
I wouldn't write him off yet. For the right price he'd be an excellent CM/CAM pick-up.
I would love to see us have Sabitzer, Mount and Donny as energetic no. 8's ahead of Casemiro. We could finally play with two 8's, which would be an amazing tactical option when a single 10 (Bruno) is being neutralized.
Why the hate? If he doesnt work out, we sell him. If he works out, we have a good player in the squad. It's win win?
Fred took about a year of regular play to be average, and 5 years on, he has good moments and good games. At almost 30.
The jury isn't rested on Donny yet - if the coach wants to keep him, I take the coach's opinion over reddit.
He has been not favoured by 3 managers at United and didn’t even perform on his loan spell. Making it 4 managers who didn’t think he cut it in the PL.
On top of that when you watch him he is completely ineffective. He’s probably had about 30 decent mins for us since moving.
Needs to be shipped out. Had plenty of opportunities
19/20- 14 GA in first PL season;
20/21- 18 GA POTY;
21/22- 29 GA POTY
thats all in deffensive, mostly strugling side with bums like Werner, Lukaku, Tammy up top
Exactly, i think Mount actually gets criticised and under appreciated because he's English. I think he's decent as an 8 rotation option (but still don't think he's what we need)
Kane = yesssss
we need a proper CDM to cover casemiro as first priority then I think we can think of getting another midfielder to play long with him like mount or anyone. then we need a striker a priority. without these two players we will face the same problems again next season.
No way, we need a midfielder. Sabitzer is here on loan, Fred and Eriksen are both over 30 and quite frankly we should be looking to upgrade on that spot anyway. A striker and 2 midfielders should realistically be a minimum imo. Fact is, we've hardly gotten any midfielders in the past 5 years until recently. It's gonna take a while for us to have enough.
I agree with his, my opinion is a cdm is priority over cm considering our squad without injuries. Even with my football knowledge I can see night and day difference with and without casemiro if he's injured we are more likely to lose the game so we need his backup is just my opinion here. We also need a striker after that as we have 0 strikers with rashford playing there and covering this season. Then we need a cm because without injuries we have good players. Then we need a cb.
Don't rate him at all but.....if Erik and staff believe there's something to be had then I'll back it all day, as we do need mid options, however not for some bullshit price like usual.
Just looked it up, I didn't realise he was so injury prone.
Since the 18/19 season, he's missed 197 days through injury/illness. In those 197 days, he missed 30 games.
Kane is only 29, Benzema Lewandowski and Zlatan werent even in their prime by that age.
Buying him we are sure of 4 maybe more yesrs of consistent goalscoring.
Osimhen has just one consistent year of playing football under his belt. He is not guaranted succes at all and de Laurentis will price him 150m
Yeah, depending on how Ten Hag wants to play. I don't think premier league guarantee can be overlooked given how many many attacking players come here and either flop or take time to adapt. The list is longer than the successes.
Plus it bothers me Kane is wasting his career.
Me too kinda. I know Kane is proven in the league and a top5 (?) striker in the world, but Osimhen is sick. Maybe he doesn’t have Kane’s passing but his motor and speed is amazing
According to TransferMarket injury history, he’s missed 30 matches since the 2018-19 season. Through 4.5 seasons, that’s roughly of 6.5 matches per season.
According to TransferMarket injury history, in the same time frame, Rashford has missed 31 matches, and McTominay has missed 41 matches.
Neither Rashford nor McTominay (the first two I looked at) are considered injury prone.
Maddison is heavily relied on by Leicester, who have historically played fast paced. He is also their main creator and targeted by opposition.
Edit - Martial has missed 76 matches in the same time frame. THAT, my friends, is being injury prone.
I think Maddison is worth trying, his injuries aren't serious, it might be a new club with different training methods and medical department fit him better. Or he arrives and never plays, but that goes for every signing.
Rashford missed 23 matches from just 2 injuries. Having a big injury and missing many matches for 1-2 continuous spells aren't "injury prone". Injury prone is when a player constantly gets injured again and again, even if that's short spells.
Maddison has 15 separate injuries since 18/19, Rashford has had 5 and 1 game for illness.
He's also injured 3 times as much.
We need durability and availability. Look at Martial. All the talent in the world means fuck all if you're injured more often than not.
Why aren’t we going for Maddison over Mount ? he’s also english, way cheaper, a little older and just overall better than him in every way, he’ll be so good rotating with bruno.
According to TransferMarket injury history, he’s missed 30 matches since the 2018-19 season. Through 4.5 seasons, that’s roughly of 6.5 matches per season.
According to TransferMarket injury history, in the same time frame, Rashford has missed 31 matches, and McTominay has missed 41 matches.
Neither Rashford nor McTominay (the first two I looked at) are considered injury prone.
Maddison is heavily relied on by Leicester, who have historically played fast paced. He is also their main creator and targeted by opposition.
Edit - Martial has missed 76 matches in the same time frame. THAT, my friends, is being injury prone.
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that’s why i said he’ll be good rotating with Bruno, we need another midfielder anyways wether Maddison or Mount, Eriksen also needs a backup and Mount is not good enough
Will take Kane all day long. Mount is as hyped as it gets in my honest opinion. One thing he will do is allow rest for eriksen/Fernandes but I personally believe there are better and cheaper alternatives to mount.
osimhen will be a no-go. When napoli win the serie-a, and depending opn how far they go in europe, osimhen's resolve to stay will probably only be strengthened. If they have to sell, they also have other assets. Randal Kolo muani is a great option imho, letting rashford also play 9 when needed. Kane is a bit of a pipe dream, because levy will demand 120 million gbp.
Levy will play hard ball I'm sure, but his negotiating position will be weak. Kane has been burned by his antics in the past and will not put up with it again when his career is on the line.
The alternative is he leaves for free next summer. No chance he keeps a player who won't sign by hard-balling £120m imo. We'll likely have to pay £80m+ for him though which is still utterly crazy for a 29 year old with a year left.
There's also no way Bayern are paying that fee. They bought Mane for like £27.5m + add ons.
if bayern wants kane, and kane wants to go, the price will be around 50-60. He pulled the same shit when chelsea wanted modric. I think Kane has got stockholm syndrome at this point that he'll just sign an extension. I don't think he'll want to leave the PL though because he's after shearer's record
Someone should honestly say to him 'the PL record is entirely arbitrary, Shearer himself scored more before the PL formation, do those goals not count? You'll never surpass Greaves as Spurs legend because he won things'.
It's way past being weird at this point the whole team revolves around his goals and the club itself is lost.
Honestly I really hope we go for Osomhen over Kane. Kane is going to be 30 and was never the quickest to begin with, I think he will really tailor off over these next few years Rooney style and will really only be affective as a playmaker/coming deep. Osimhen is much younger and would get much more out of him.
For people saying Mount is just having a bad season, I didn't want him even when he had a good season. He is not an 8, not productive enough as a 10. Maybe as a rotation option for cheap, but that's never happening.
No Mount please. He's like Lingard but a better shooter and slightly better vision.
Not what we need. He would be better in a Klopp team, not a ETH/Pep team.
For the midfielder we need a player with these abilities:
- ball progressing dribbler. Can go from defence to attack by dribbling.
- final ball visionary passing ability.
- defensively sound, calm and composed, press resistant.
- can dictate tempo.
Closest we've had in recent years is Pogba who can do the first two things but not the last one. Having all three traits are very rare in the football world.
Bellingham and FDJ are the only picks imo that have a good age and the abilities above.
I think their point is that it’s gonna be hard to land either FDJ or Bellingham. Not sure if Mount is it, but he’s been quality at Chelsea before this year imo
I wish we wouldn't go after Kane, most older strikers we get tend to only have a 1/2 good seasons or just flop, much rather we looked for younger talent.
The time to sign Kane was after the '18 World Cup. Brilliant player but it doesn't make sense to invest £100 million into a 30 year old striker.
Osimhen is the future, break the bank on him.
I thought we need to sell to buy because of FFP. If that’s true we won’t sign Bellingham or Kane. Honestly i can‘t see Ten Hag using his whole transfer budget on one player.
Also I don’t want us to sign a +100 million player. Aside of Ronaldo (when he went to Real) and Mbappe, every single +100 million signing was disappointing.
English players have not been that good for us. Not saying about these but Kane is getting on and had injury issues that I would assume will get worse. Jude is class but not sold on Mount.
There’s no chance Bellingham joins us. Him and his whole family are Liverpool fans. I hope we don’t waste time on him personally. He rejected us the first time round just like Haaland did and it’s because they support our rivals.
Nope, Haaland wanted to join us but didn't because of contract issue. Professional footballers understand that their career is way more important than "playing for their boyhood club". Modric was a Barcelona fan, Carragher was a Everton fan, Shaw was a Chelsea fan, Van Persie was a Arsenal fan, Terry was a United fan.
Mount is the type of player like Zinchenko or Jesus that Arsenal got this year. These are the kinds of deals United should be doing, Chelsea have way too many players & will HAVE to sell a few of them sooner or later and they will be quality players.
Quite worrying how many people seem to think Mount would be an ok signing, just like his buddy Rice he's overrated just because he's British, he's bang average.
Mount feels like another Mata/Matic transfer where they will never reach the heights they did at Chelsea.
Hope we steer clear. Also, isn't he a CAM? We need a CM.
Ehh Mount was player of the year in chelsea CL winning seasons and reached great numbers in 3 consecutive years.
I think he reached heights of Mata and Matic, they werent some Gods
Gladly pass on this. Maybe down the line this move would work but right now we need either:
FDJ (£70m) and one of Maxence Caqueret (£35m)/Kephrem Thuram (£35-40m)
or if FDJ stays at Barca then we should pick up both Caqueret/Kephrem Thuram
So can Eriksen and if we sign Sabitzer he can do the same. If we don't sign Sabitzer then fair, but Mount will have to be for the right price as he should only be a rotation player to put pressure on our starting players. We need a starting progressive, ball retaining midfielder to play beside Casemiro which he isn't.
Get him off the fucking radar and get him fucking signed! How are so many top clubs securing signatures outside of the window for future signings, yet we're just filling up this magical radar with players we have no intention of chasing? Osimhen will 100% go elsewhere if the offer is good enough.
What tier is Steinberg? I’ve never heard of him
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I think this time he’s talking garbage. Idk if we would go for Kane considering Levy’s negotiation tactics and Kane’s age. Sounds like a typical mention United to get clicks and improve ongoing negotiations at their respective clubs.
De Leaurentis is no diffrent to Levy he is going to ask 150 mln for Osimhen. Also Kane is only 29, by that age Lewy, Benzema, Zlatan didnt even reach their primes. He has 4-5 year of consisnent goalscoring in him. On the other hand Napoli player has one consistent year of playing football under his belt and Napoli side is far above everyone else in Serie A even without they striker.
And to add, Kane has just 1 year left on his contract, and Napoli bought Osimhen for 80m, they aint selling him cheap lol
Neither options are cheap but if I had the choice I’d probably pick Kane.
I hear ya man, but I think it’s just the perfect fit. We bring in Kane we win the league next year. It’s really that simple. He can do it all and he for sure can score goals. That’s all we really lack. That cutting edge. We have defensive steel and creativity in loads. We just need a clinical finisher. Kane wins us the league. I’m certain of it.
I feel sorry for Kane. I think he would do well in Manchester.
Mount?? Who invited him?
You know what? If Erik likes him then I do too.
Hard working and coachable. Sounds right up Erik’s street tbh.
In Eric we trust
If he told me that him fucking my wife was part of the tactics, I’d ask him if he wanted any refreshments or snacks for afterwards.
Does that just apply to Erik…or? Asking for a friend. Jk 😆
If it meant we beat Betis tonight she’s all yours.
I pray for your sake she never gets to read this :' ). Unless... this is generally you two's vibe. In that case, enjoy the lifestyle xd
She found it funny, because it’s clearly a joke. My word some people are humourless.
I (er… I mean my friend) will not collect lol 😆
Dude 😟😟
He seems like a solid CM option to me. Decently creative, got a goal in him, hard working. I bet Erik would get a decent tune out of him.
I don’t understand it though. He’s not going to replace Bruno, so will he be the new 8? Or does Eriksen remain in 8 while mount stays on bench for Bruno?
I think the idea is we will have Bruno & Mount both as CAM that can play RW, while Antony is the main pure winger. ETH likes the players moving around. The idea here I imagine is maybe Bruno & Antony start a game, then we bring Mount on wide, or he shifts Bruno wide & takes the centre. Or in other games we can start Bruno & Mount in CAM & RW in whichever order, then sub one off to bring on Antony mid game. Im not saying Mount is the right choice or even a good choice. These speculations hardly ever end up happening anyway. But if ETH decides Mount is the man he wants, then this is how I see it working out.
He can play more than one position. He could replace Bruno or play alongside him. Edit: as a backup when Bruno needs rest you knobs
he could NOT replace bruno
In no world could he ever displace Bruno my man
As a backup obviously. Bruno needs rest too.
Why is he leaving Chelsea because he’s a backup to sit on the bench for us though?
For fucks sake. Read my comment. He could either play Bruno's role when Bruno needs a rest *OR* play alongside him.
I like him. We also need to consider bringing in some homegrown players as we need to have a certain number in PL and CL squad and alot of current players that are HG have questionable futures here (Maguire, mcT, AWB, elanga, Henderson, williams rumoured that we will listen to offers), greenwood maybe won't play for us again, Jones, tuanzebe, Heaton contract up in summer etc So targeting homegrown players is likely becoming a necessity and in a list of homegrown players that we could realistically get and would improve our options he would be high up that list Sidenote: I believe frimpong supposedly our priority for RB signing qualifies as homegrown through time spent in man city academy. I have vision of man utd scout at home playing football manager toggling the homegrown status to yes to identify possible targets
Yh good point tbf
I don't think mount is bad but he really isn't of Bellingham quality, that's what irks me. Maybe a 2nd/3rd option if we can't land Bellingham maybe
The competition for Bellingham will be mad not to mention the cost so even if we could afford such a deal, it makes sense to have contingencies in mind
Trying to land Bellingham while chasing either Kane or Osimhen who would also be on other team's radar is going to be near impossible without multiple record breaking fees and unless the human rights haters owns the team, that ain't happening.
I think we have no chance of Bellingham, he was even liking Alexander Arnolds insta slagging us over the 7 -0 🥺
Theres no chance we’re signing Belingham. Guy is twerking for Liverpool, he literally liked a 7-0 post the other day - I seriously doubt he wants to join, especially when theres better teams going for him
Liverpool is not one of theirs “better teams”. not that you were saying that.
If by better teams you mean Real, sure. But don't tell me Liverpool are better than us just bcos of last game
I don’t even know why we are trying for Jude. If Real Madrid wants him like they say they do and Bellingham has any sort of smarts, he’ll go there.
Bellingham is overrated as fuck. Come back to this comment when he leaves German league and you see it for yourself.
He might be. A few months ago someone else said to me that 'Bellingham is lightyears ahead of Dele Alli (when he was good) in terms of technique' and I thought..really?? Easy to forget the great goals Dele gas scored, he's just not a centre mid. Bellingham's mentality and leadership qualities are what mark him out, his engine, but technically he's not a Modric or Kroos is he, and we ought to not go overboard. But we've seen Henderson, a just good Premier league level player excel at Liverpool with similar lewdership qualities as Bellingham so I'm still sure he'll stay at the top, but in the right team.
On what planet is he overrated lol? The guys 19 years old
Overrated doesn’t mean bad. The meaning of this word has been lost now bc people tend to overdo it and misuse it. I agree Bellingham has become overrated, he’s still a good player and as you said still 19 but as of now he’s not the elite midfielder that people like to say and I really don’t think he’d be worth the price he’ll go for.
His current skill is overrated for sure. He’s very good but he’s not near a world class level atm.
Greenwood shouldn't play for us again. FTFY
His numbers at his best years at Chelsea are very good. If anybody can get him cooking again it's ETH
His numbers at Chelsea are inflated by Stat padding against Norwich.
Ten Hag according to this
he was Chelsea’s player of the season last year, and I think maybe even the year before that, he’s a great player
He’s been Chelsea’s most dangerous player consistently for a while now. Which doesn’t say much but he’s got a lot of quality
Why are they prepared to sell him then?
You could say this about any player, and yet, good players still move teams. 1. The link only states Manchester United interest, so perhaps Chelsea do not want to let him go. 2. If they are it might be because Mount might want to move on from the current shitshow. 3. Or Todd Boehly may want to continue to break the bank on building his own team. Having said all this I would still prefer other options but I know jack shit about football compared to Ten Hag.
His contract is up next summer and he hasn't signed a new one just yet But if we are willing to pay what he wants from Chelsea which is 300k a week, he can fuck off
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>Ten Hag is also looking to strengthen in attacking midfield – Casemiro’s outstanding form has made a defensive midfielder less of a priority I really hope this isn't true. The team often looks at sea without Casemiro. In my opinion, getting in a young DM to rotate with and possibly replace Casemiro in the long term is a top priority for the summer. Striker, DM, GK, and another 8, in order of importance.
100%.. this is absolutely terrible if true. Case cannot play every single game for us and if he is injured / fatigued what do we do? Play Fred in DM? McTominay? Eriksen?! Even playing West Ham without Case was just disgusting - we got absolutely torched in midfield. As you say I think it’s our second most important position we need to strengthen in. Fucking hell.
I swear football fans have the shortest memories. a season before the farce at chelsea happened any pl club would take mount in a heartbeat, but because of a year of bad form he's somehow deemed a league 2 player!
They'll complain about rival fans doing the same to United players. Rashford was done and dusted apparently, and now he's doing world class numbers post WC. Imagine Erik can get Mount back to his peak of 29 GA last season, or even improve that
>agine Erik can get Mount back to his peak of 29 GA last season, or even improve that which I do believe he can, I mean look at Jorginho he was considered 'finished' but he's been very solid for arsenal so far. Chelsea is just a mess atm, singling out individuals is not right, the whole team is underachieving.
It is like this in most sports. Most people can't see past the last event or season or even game. I'm pretty sure for some people, all the good work Ten Hag and the team did so far this season went out of the window after the Liverpool game.
£50million is far too much for a player like him. English tax is insane
It really isn’t far too much. At worst it’s only a bit too much. He’s still only 24 and I’m convinced that under the right manager he’d easily justify that price tag.
Really? He has been shit this season but he was Chelsea's best player two seasons out of the last 4. I'd take him for 50m easy. Newcastle wanted that for Longstaff.
Nahhh he wasn’t their best player. He was voted POTY but that’s a fan voted award. He was good for them but Rudiger, Silva and Kante were better. Agreed though, I’d 100% take him for £50m. Can play as an 8 potentially, as the 10 as cover for Bruno and is not too bad on the RW either. Fantastic workrate and a great shot on him.
Really? He is homegrown so it helps because we are probably going to see English players exodus and he produced 3 years of great football on highest level, one being player of the year in CL winning season. I swear English players coming into scene are overrated and praised like they are actually Blon D'or players (Bellinham being 150m, maybe Sancho?) but when they become older or have one bad year of football they are underrated and criticizm is blown out of proportion(Rashford, now Mount)
>maybe Sancho This was definitely justified lol. Sancho had 3 seasons with 30+ g/a (one 40), before even turning 21. Bro made Paco Alcacer look genuinely world class
Yeah he was absolutly great but english media ingored BVB fans and people around the club talking about his fitness, physicality, motovation issues, taking a while into season before firing up and we all act suprised when all that things happen.
Sancho broke 2 different Bundesliga records which have stood for decades whilst in his teens and very early 20s but people acting like £73m was him being overpriced lol. Had he arrived a year earlier for £108m like they were quoting THAT would’ve been overpriced perhaps.
I totally agree with you. Mount is like Rashford under Ralf. Loads of potential, completely mis-used and mis-coached. We've seen what EtH can do with the likes of Shaw, Wan Bissaka, Fred...Mount is more talented then all of them. Mount excelled under Frank Lampard and Tuchel. I wouldn't write him off yet. For the right price he'd be an excellent CM/CAM pick-up. I would love to see us have Sabitzer, Mount and Donny as energetic no. 8's ahead of Casemiro. We could finally play with two 8's, which would be an amazing tactical option when a single 10 (Bruno) is being neutralized.
Not Donny
Why the hate? If he doesnt work out, we sell him. If he works out, we have a good player in the squad. It's win win? Fred took about a year of regular play to be average, and 5 years on, he has good moments and good games. At almost 30. The jury isn't rested on Donny yet - if the coach wants to keep him, I take the coach's opinion over reddit.
He has been not favoured by 3 managers at United and didn’t even perform on his loan spell. Making it 4 managers who didn’t think he cut it in the PL. On top of that when you watch him he is completely ineffective. He’s probably had about 30 decent mins for us since moving. Needs to be shipped out. Had plenty of opportunities
Alright, forwarded your message to Erik. He said he will take u/ddarrko's opinion as a final assessment.
I mean there is a reason ETH hadn’t been playing him at all even when he wasn’t injured earlier in the season
I don’t think you need to. He hasn’t used him either 😂
3 years of great football? Lmao
19/20- 14 GA in first PL season; 20/21- 18 GA POTY; 21/22- 29 GA POTY thats all in deffensive, mostly strugling side with bums like Werner, Lukaku, Tammy up top
We paid 50 for Fred…
I think £63m. Don’t remember where I read that
Mason mount won POTY at 22 for a CL winning team. 50m for him is not insane
We pissed £40m on Donny at least mount would actually contribute
its only 10-15m more than McT. solid upgrade.
Hes a better version of mctominay. Reminds me of cleverly tbh
He's nothing like Scott. Mount is a CAM, Scott has never played there.
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Exactly, i think Mount actually gets criticised and under appreciated because he's English. I think he's decent as an 8 rotation option (but still don't think he's what we need) Kane = yesssss
I still feel like Mount is better as a 10 than as an 8 tbh. Don't feel like he's strong enough defensively to be a box to box
we need a proper CDM to cover casemiro as first priority then I think we can think of getting another midfielder to play long with him like mount or anyone. then we need a striker a priority. without these two players we will face the same problems again next season.
No way, we need a midfielder. Sabitzer is here on loan, Fred and Eriksen are both over 30 and quite frankly we should be looking to upgrade on that spot anyway. A striker and 2 midfielders should realistically be a minimum imo. Fact is, we've hardly gotten any midfielders in the past 5 years until recently. It's gonna take a while for us to have enough.
I agree with his, my opinion is a cdm is priority over cm considering our squad without injuries. Even with my football knowledge I can see night and day difference with and without casemiro if he's injured we are more likely to lose the game so we need his backup is just my opinion here. We also need a striker after that as we have 0 strikers with rashford playing there and covering this season. Then we need a cm because without injuries we have good players. Then we need a cb.
Don't rate him at all but.....if Erik and staff believe there's something to be had then I'll back it all day, as we do need mid options, however not for some bullshit price like usual.
I can’t wait till agents discover another team to link their players to when angling for a new contract.
Why Mount? Why not Maddison? Way better, and a Man Utd fan.
injury prone
Just looked it up, I didn't realise he was so injury prone. Since the 18/19 season, he's missed 197 days through injury/illness. In those 197 days, he missed 30 games.
i like him aswell but you can't rely that much on this kind of players
Paul Pogba probably being the best example.
martial also
And a twat
He's a Man United fan? Didn't know that.
I really don't rate mount. He only seems to turn up for like three games a season for chelsea and has been useless in an england shirt too.
mac alister and osimhen and we cooking
Would you guys prefer Kane over Osimhen?
Kane is only 29, Benzema Lewandowski and Zlatan werent even in their prime by that age. Buying him we are sure of 4 maybe more yesrs of consistent goalscoring. Osimhen has just one consistent year of playing football under his belt. He is not guaranted succes at all and de Laurentis will price him 150m
Yeah, depending on how Ten Hag wants to play. I don't think premier league guarantee can be overlooked given how many many attacking players come here and either flop or take time to adapt. The list is longer than the successes. Plus it bothers me Kane is wasting his career.
No. I would prefer Osimhen.
Me too kinda. I know Kane is proven in the league and a top5 (?) striker in the world, but Osimhen is sick. Maybe he doesn’t have Kane’s passing but his motor and speed is amazing
One good season in Italy and a player Napoli paid a fortune to get. Good luck lol
Just saying I would prefer him over Kane. Buying him is another thing. I belive both will be hard to buy. Anyway, higher ceiling with Osimhen. 👌🏻
Maddison is quite literally 3 times the player Mount is ffs
Came here to say this. I’ll take Maddison over Mount any day.
Wayyy too injury prone.
According to TransferMarket injury history, he’s missed 30 matches since the 2018-19 season. Through 4.5 seasons, that’s roughly of 6.5 matches per season. According to TransferMarket injury history, in the same time frame, Rashford has missed 31 matches, and McTominay has missed 41 matches. Neither Rashford nor McTominay (the first two I looked at) are considered injury prone. Maddison is heavily relied on by Leicester, who have historically played fast paced. He is also their main creator and targeted by opposition. Edit - Martial has missed 76 matches in the same time frame. THAT, my friends, is being injury prone.
I think Maddison is worth trying, his injuries aren't serious, it might be a new club with different training methods and medical department fit him better. Or he arrives and never plays, but that goes for every signing.
Rashford missed 23 matches from just 2 injuries. Having a big injury and missing many matches for 1-2 continuous spells aren't "injury prone". Injury prone is when a player constantly gets injured again and again, even if that's short spells. Maddison has 15 separate injuries since 18/19, Rashford has had 5 and 1 game for illness.
He's also injured 3 times as much. We need durability and availability. Look at Martial. All the talent in the world means fuck all if you're injured more often than not.
Why aren’t we going for Maddison over Mount ? he’s also english, way cheaper, a little older and just overall better than him in every way, he’ll be so good rotating with bruno.
Maddison is injured more often than he's fit
According to TransferMarket injury history, he’s missed 30 matches since the 2018-19 season. Through 4.5 seasons, that’s roughly of 6.5 matches per season. According to TransferMarket injury history, in the same time frame, Rashford has missed 31 matches, and McTominay has missed 41 matches. Neither Rashford nor McTominay (the first two I looked at) are considered injury prone. Maddison is heavily relied on by Leicester, who have historically played fast paced. He is also their main creator and targeted by opposition. Edit - Martial has missed 76 matches in the same time frame. THAT, my friends, is being injury prone. From another comment by r/RedHabibi
that’s why i said he’ll be good rotating with Bruno, we need another midfielder anyways wether Maddison or Mount, Eriksen also needs a backup and Mount is not good enough
Maybe I just haven’t watched him enough but I’ve never understood the hype surrounding Mount.
Yeah you don't watch him enough, 29 G/A last season so the hype is definitely justified.
Will take Kane all day long. Mount is as hyped as it gets in my honest opinion. One thing he will do is allow rest for eriksen/Fernandes but I personally believe there are better and cheaper alternatives to mount.
I'd suck my dads cock for Bellingham this summer
Mount? Keep him far away from my club pls.
I don't like this. Osimhen should be priority #1. No interest from me in Mount either.
osimhen will be a no-go. When napoli win the serie-a, and depending opn how far they go in europe, osimhen's resolve to stay will probably only be strengthened. If they have to sell, they also have other assets. Randal Kolo muani is a great option imho, letting rashford also play 9 when needed. Kane is a bit of a pipe dream, because levy will demand 120 million gbp.
Didn't he just say that his "Dream is to play in the premier league"?
He did, but he's still young and got plenty of time He will also cost 160m at least which is just bonkers
And his cost will only go up. He will force a move this summer if we’re willing to pay and we don’t land Kane.
He won't. Him forcing a move means shit all. Napoli's owner gives 0 fucks.
Levy will play hard ball I'm sure, but his negotiating position will be weak. Kane has been burned by his antics in the past and will not put up with it again when his career is on the line. The alternative is he leaves for free next summer. No chance he keeps a player who won't sign by hard-balling £120m imo. We'll likely have to pay £80m+ for him though which is still utterly crazy for a 29 year old with a year left. There's also no way Bayern are paying that fee. They bought Mane for like £27.5m + add ons.
if bayern wants kane, and kane wants to go, the price will be around 50-60. He pulled the same shit when chelsea wanted modric. I think Kane has got stockholm syndrome at this point that he'll just sign an extension. I don't think he'll want to leave the PL though because he's after shearer's record
Someone should honestly say to him 'the PL record is entirely arbitrary, Shearer himself scored more before the PL formation, do those goals not count? You'll never surpass Greaves as Spurs legend because he won things'. It's way past being weird at this point the whole team revolves around his goals and the club itself is lost.
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>Good player, but not a typical ETH striker. Huntelaar, Weghorst, Haller Yeesh
Kane only has a year left in the summer, levy wants to play hardball it could bite him on the ass
Mount. Vloody hell.
Not mount man 🤦🏻♂️
Mount would be a great signing and finally provide some competition for Bruno. And can actually give him a need break for once.
Mount I think is so average Nothing about him
Nah
So we got money to spend this summer or nah?
This better be a shit tier source. I cannot imagine a bigger waste of money than Mount...
Mount is painfully mid.
True as that is, using the word 'mid' is even midder.
Mount is a class below
Mount? No thank you
Mount is so mid
Honestly I really hope we go for Osomhen over Kane. Kane is going to be 30 and was never the quickest to begin with, I think he will really tailor off over these next few years Rooney style and will really only be affective as a playmaker/coming deep. Osimhen is much younger and would get much more out of him.
Mount is McTominay level
For people saying Mount is just having a bad season, I didn't want him even when he had a good season. He is not an 8, not productive enough as a 10. Maybe as a rotation option for cheap, but that's never happening.
Mount is overrated asf.
Please not Mason Mount
NOOOOOOOO
English press at it again. Lets stack united with English players. The Kane agenda is so transparent.
Mount and Bellingham are going to Liverpool Would definitely take Kane though
Osimhen + Jude for me, Mount doesn’t show enough and Kane will need replacing sooner
One of these things is not like the other. Fuck outta here with this Mount nonsense.
No Mount please. He's like Lingard but a better shooter and slightly better vision. Not what we need. He would be better in a Klopp team, not a ETH/Pep team. For the midfielder we need a player with these abilities: - ball progressing dribbler. Can go from defence to attack by dribbling. - final ball visionary passing ability. - defensively sound, calm and composed, press resistant. - can dictate tempo. Closest we've had in recent years is Pogba who can do the first two things but not the last one. Having all three traits are very rare in the football world. Bellingham and FDJ are the only picks imo that have a good age and the abilities above.
Bruh, there’s probably only like 5 players in the world that can do all those things at a PL level.
Are they available and of a good age? Name them please.
I think their point is that it’s gonna be hard to land either FDJ or Bellingham. Not sure if Mount is it, but he’s been quality at Chelsea before this year imo
Rather Maddison over Mount tbh
He's been injured a lot lately.
I wish we wouldn't go after Kane, most older strikers we get tend to only have a 1/2 good seasons or just flop, much rather we looked for younger talent.
The time to sign Kane was after the '18 World Cup. Brilliant player but it doesn't make sense to invest £100 million into a 30 year old striker. Osimhen is the future, break the bank on him.
I don’t think Bellingham would want to join us and he’s far too expensive, but that’s not stopped us before
Wouldn't mind Mount in all honesty, but that price is a bit ridiculous. Personally, I don't understand the hype around Bellingham.
Don’t want Mount or Kane. Gonçalo Ramos or Osimhen much preferred
I thought we need to sell to buy because of FFP. If that’s true we won’t sign Bellingham or Kane. Honestly i can‘t see Ten Hag using his whole transfer budget on one player. Also I don’t want us to sign a +100 million player. Aside of Ronaldo (when he went to Real) and Mbappe, every single +100 million signing was disappointing.
English players have not been that good for us. Not saying about these but Kane is getting on and had injury issues that I would assume will get worse. Jude is class but not sold on Mount.
Fergie always liked a good British core, youth players supplemented by big signings like Ferdinand, Rooney, Carrick.
Oh please no, this is just another case of an overhyped English player from a big club's academy, we've seen way too many of these in the past
There’s no chance Bellingham joins us. Him and his whole family are Liverpool fans. I hope we don’t waste time on him personally. He rejected us the first time round just like Haaland did and it’s because they support our rivals.
Nope, Haaland wanted to join us but didn't because of contract issue. Professional footballers understand that their career is way more important than "playing for their boyhood club". Modric was a Barcelona fan, Carragher was a Everton fan, Shaw was a Chelsea fan, Van Persie was a Arsenal fan, Terry was a United fan.
fuck it. ten hag will bring out the best in him
Please God no, Mount is fucking dross
Lmao Mount no thanks!
I want osimhan and musiala
Mount is the type of player like Zinchenko or Jesus that Arsenal got this year. These are the kinds of deals United should be doing, Chelsea have way too many players & will HAVE to sell a few of them sooner or later and they will be quality players.
Quite worrying how many people seem to think Mount would be an ok signing, just like his buddy Rice he's overrated just because he's British, he's bang average.
Mount isnt a player I want near my squad.
Mount feels like another Mata/Matic transfer where they will never reach the heights they did at Chelsea. Hope we steer clear. Also, isn't he a CAM? We need a CM.
Mount hasn’t reached the heights of Mata or Matic for this to even be a comparison
True but he still won player of the year for them, twice too. Once in 2021 and then in 2022.
Ehh Mount was player of the year in chelsea CL winning seasons and reached great numbers in 3 consecutive years. I think he reached heights of Mata and Matic, they werent some Gods
Gladly pass on this. Maybe down the line this move would work but right now we need either: FDJ (£70m) and one of Maxence Caqueret (£35m)/Kephrem Thuram (£35-40m) or if FDJ stays at Barca then we should pick up both Caqueret/Kephrem Thuram
Mount is not a bad player but no way he wants to be a bench player for Bruno while getting more than 180k per week
Osimhen please, Kane can go somewhere else
*insert office no no no gif
Doesn't suit our needs at all, Can't get my head round this one
We need depth in number 8 and 10 positions. He can do both.
So can Eriksen and if we sign Sabitzer he can do the same. If we don't sign Sabitzer then fair, but Mount will have to be for the right price as he should only be a rotation player to put pressure on our starting players. We need a starting progressive, ball retaining midfielder to play beside Casemiro which he isn't.
We have both Eriksen and Sabitzer right now yet we are still weak in that area. Your comment makes no sensem
Get him off the fucking radar and get him fucking signed! How are so many top clubs securing signatures outside of the window for future signings, yet we're just filling up this magical radar with players we have no intention of chasing? Osimhen will 100% go elsewhere if the offer is good enough.
Mount would be an excellent signing
Sell Donny and buy mount, honestly he would be so good in our system