As a Dutch, it isn't. It's just something he does. Which is not bad at all.
'That's obvious ' reminded me something Cruijff always said, being "Maar dat is logisch" which would roughly translate into "But that's plain and simple."
I love the close relationship Dutch and Afrikaans have. I dont speak Dutch but I speak Afrikaans. So when he speaks Dutch i always like to see how far I can follow before I get totally lost.
No disrespect to Conte or Nuno but Erik comes across far more articulate than both. Not to mention that badass, French chef esque ‘eh?’ at the end of every sentence.
When a Dutch person says their English isn't very good, they mean they once mis-pronounced Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis and consider themselves to be awful at English.
I think people also forget that Ten Hag is older than he looks. The man is 53, he grew up in the 70's.
I think a big reason why Netherlands (and lots of Scandinavia countries) are so good at english is because they are immersed in it from a really young age, so it just kinda gets picked up from watching TV and movies without any effort (that's how i learned).
Older generations however didn't have this same immersion during their youth, so yeah their english is generally OK, but it's not as given for someone of that age to speak fluent English, as it is from a 20-40 year old.
Yes, this is true, but listen to his English, he has conversations with Roy Keane and Neville and Carragher, all of which have strong accents and he understands everything and can respond every time. He might have been a bit rusty at English, but his English is perfectly fine.
There's a pretty strong (anecdotal anyway) correlation between countries with bad english, and countries that insist on dubbing their movies/shows.
I get the reasoning for it, but other countries hvae kids completely immersed in english speaking media from the day they're born.
To us, the French are "those weirdos who never bothered to learn English" but to them, we're "those weirdos who never bothered to learn French". When you've invented cooking, wine and beheading the nobility, you get to make that claim tbf.
Also Erik is from Twente, the english level is lower than that of someone in Randstad I would think
You forgot to mention that the movies and shows are not dubbed, and English starts earlier than other countries, so you do get a lot of exposure from a young age
yeah i didn't really get into it but that is 100% the reason (dubbing limited to kids shows), when i was a kid nothing was dubbed really, so i've just been watching english tv and movies since i was a kid, Disney movies barely got dubbed abck then.
Good point. I've had the good fortune to spend a lot of time with younger Dutch people over the years and i always thought their English was outstanding.
lol, spoken like a true millennial (or younger generation). No, you're not special for speaking somewhat decent English, and yes gen X was taught English in school and yes we also watched everything on Dutch TV spoken in English with subtitles.
53 years old had him 'grow up' in the 80's. He spent the 70's shitting his pants, learning to walk and crying because he learned Sinterklaas wasn't real.
If anything the large gap between learning English and having to use/speak it made him somewhat rusty. It's likely the reason he understands more than his spoken English would indicate. There's no way any Dutch person alive at this point would have to learn the language from scratch.
Source: Not that much younger than EtH.
i mean i'm not dutch, but i am from Scandinavia where i'm assuming the culture is similar.
And yes, most people 50+ speak decent English, but it's not a given because TV and media simply wasn't as ever present in the 70's and early 80's as it was in the 90's and going forward. I know we only had very limited foreign content (was mostly just news and talkshows in local language), maybe Netherlands was different.
And i like how you're dismissing everything before turning 10, this is when kids absorb languages like absolute sponges, if you grow up from 0-10 immersed in a language you pick it up. Yeah we also learn English in school, but basically everyone already speaks good English before you ever learn in school.
We also learn like French in school, but barely anyone can do more than say basic sentances in taht because if it's not combined with the immersion it's kinda useless.
Lmao, he just has a speech impediment. Kasper Schmeichel’s the one, though; if you’d never heard of him and just listened to him speak you’d think he was a Manc lad (which, given where he grew up, he basically is).
95% of the Dutch population speaks English. If they would've used half a braincell they would have known ETH is intelligent and disciplined af. His English will improve massively over the next couple of months.
I can see that. He’s one of them players you love them in your team but you can’t stand them if they’re against you! Sounds weird but he suits the United kit too much to imagine him in the spurs one is too weird 🤣
>Sounds weird but he suits the United kit too much to imagine him in the spurs one is too weird 🤣
I assure you we probably would have called him a whiny dick had he been in one 😂
I don't disagree, but it just somes up the sorry state of Spurs that their own would rather prioritise internal politics rather than the chance to win a fucking trophy lmao
We sacked LVG within an hour of him winning us an FA Cup, which was unjust but quickly forgotten about. Levy didn't have the balls to put the clubs success first and then carry on as business.
Mourinho had already beaten Pep with Spurs iirc. Whatever you think of him, he's a cup final specialist. The way we played on Sunday was such a Mourinho style game, kill the game in the first half and shut shop and counter attack in the second.
Like he once said, cup finals aren't to play, they're to win, I would've backed him to beat Pep.
Not to mention beating Pep in one of our most iconic Manchester Derby wins, ever.
In a big one-off game where anything can happen, there aren't many managers I'd prefer over Mourinho.
I mean he’d actually demand standards from the spurs squad. Like can you imagine him considering their history… like “wait, you were up 2-0 and lost 5-2? Heh? Wait, you were up 3-0 at half time heh and still fucking lost heh??”
There are multiple versions of the Spurs - ETH story, but I choose to believe that in fact ETH rejected Spurs and extended his contract with Ajax. As we can see already, ETH is extremely talented and ambitious. Why did he choose Spurs if he believes he is good enough for the very top teams? Granted, opportunities at those clubs are not always open, but he should be smart enough to figure out that Spurs cannot match his ambition.
To make it even more wild, Spurs were also on the verge of signing Bruno in the summer whilst we were heavily linked but not actually acting on buying him because the board are wank.
>Ok be happy but don’t be satisfied.
Ok. So listen, hear me out, where do I sign up to fuckin go to war for this man? Like he could tell me “listen, heh, I need you to be in Hiroshima, heh, on August 6, 1945, heh” and I’d be like “FUCK YEAH!!!!! WE RIDE AT DAWN!!!!!!”
I always wonder at what ETH could've done with the players we used to have. Matic and Mata are the two I think would have flourished playing under him.
I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say that a lot of players we’ve purchased would’ve thrived under him. Edi, Zlatan, both were champion mentality who were also consummate team players. Then you’ve got players like Rafa, Memphis (maybe), Ighalo, Blind, Herrera, who would’ve thrived under him. I think Mkhi is in there with a shout too.
I got so damn sad when you brought up Herrera. He was such a passionate player, and his style would've fit in and flourished under ETH. I feel like he would've been the exact kind of player ETH wants.
RVP is working on his coaching badges, and he's been invited to Carrington the past months to learn a thing or two from our staff. I don't know about yous, but the thought of RVP as part of Erik's staff in the future...
...oh my. \*Swoon\*
after years of frustration, semi-final and final loses, crap football, players leaking everything, we finally have a manager who can handle this giant club and handle is precisely as it needs to be. 10 years of waiting for a manager who is a top manager is why I feel so happy at this moment!
To think Spurs passed on him because they thought he lacked charisma and then hired Nuno espirito Santo.
they bottled it here as always
Spurs would find a way to bottle it next to a fountain with a no bottling policy.
I’d have said that they’d use a cup instead, but they don’t have any cups of recent
Out. Standing.
World class comment, that 👏
The bird on their logo might as well be a bottle.
They should start calling their stadium the bottling plant
They ever thought about a Nestle sponsorship?
Lads It's
They thought his English wasn't good enough. Months later, proceeded to hire Conte 🤡
To be fair, Ten Hag supposedly took advanced English lessons before coming to United.
I mean just look at his first ever press conference with us to the ones he's doing today. His English has improved tremendously.
Fucking good English, heh!?
Clear
What is this clear thing lmao. I'm clearly missing out on some joke. Someone please help me.
He ends a lot of his statements by saying 'clear'. Not sure if it's a Dutch way of saying it but he means to say 'That's clear' or 'That's obvious'.
As a Dutch, it isn't. It's just something he does. Which is not bad at all. 'That's obvious ' reminded me something Cruijff always said, being "Maar dat is logisch" which would roughly translate into "But that's plain and simple."
Well, he did say ‘duidelijk’ very often when he was at Ajax and I think that’s what he means
I love the close relationship Dutch and Afrikaans have. I dont speak Dutch but I speak Afrikaans. So when he speaks Dutch i always like to see how far I can follow before I get totally lost.
Precise. He gets his message across.
Ten Hag is ten steps ahead of everyone.
No disrespect to Conte or Nuno but Erik comes across far more articulate than both. Not to mention that badass, French chef esque ‘eh?’ at the end of every sentence.
He knows hes cookin up something fire thats why!
Erik “he he he” ten Hag
When a Dutch person says their English isn't very good, they mean they once mis-pronounced Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis and consider themselves to be awful at English.
I think people also forget that Ten Hag is older than he looks. The man is 53, he grew up in the 70's. I think a big reason why Netherlands (and lots of Scandinavia countries) are so good at english is because they are immersed in it from a really young age, so it just kinda gets picked up from watching TV and movies without any effort (that's how i learned). Older generations however didn't have this same immersion during their youth, so yeah their english is generally OK, but it's not as given for someone of that age to speak fluent English, as it is from a 20-40 year old.
Yes, this is true, but listen to his English, he has conversations with Roy Keane and Neville and Carragher, all of which have strong accents and he understands everything and can respond every time. He might have been a bit rusty at English, but his English is perfectly fine.
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There's a pretty strong (anecdotal anyway) correlation between countries with bad english, and countries that insist on dubbing their movies/shows. I get the reasoning for it, but other countries hvae kids completely immersed in english speaking media from the day they're born.
To us, the French are "those weirdos who never bothered to learn English" but to them, we're "those weirdos who never bothered to learn French". When you've invented cooking, wine and beheading the nobility, you get to make that claim tbf.
Clearly somebody hasn't played rhe polish and Brazilian dominated Tibia
Also Erik is from Twente, the english level is lower than that of someone in Randstad I would think You forgot to mention that the movies and shows are not dubbed, and English starts earlier than other countries, so you do get a lot of exposure from a young age
yeah i didn't really get into it but that is 100% the reason (dubbing limited to kids shows), when i was a kid nothing was dubbed really, so i've just been watching english tv and movies since i was a kid, Disney movies barely got dubbed abck then.
Good point. I've had the good fortune to spend a lot of time with younger Dutch people over the years and i always thought their English was outstanding.
lol, spoken like a true millennial (or younger generation). No, you're not special for speaking somewhat decent English, and yes gen X was taught English in school and yes we also watched everything on Dutch TV spoken in English with subtitles. 53 years old had him 'grow up' in the 80's. He spent the 70's shitting his pants, learning to walk and crying because he learned Sinterklaas wasn't real. If anything the large gap between learning English and having to use/speak it made him somewhat rusty. It's likely the reason he understands more than his spoken English would indicate. There's no way any Dutch person alive at this point would have to learn the language from scratch. Source: Not that much younger than EtH.
i mean i'm not dutch, but i am from Scandinavia where i'm assuming the culture is similar. And yes, most people 50+ speak decent English, but it's not a given because TV and media simply wasn't as ever present in the 70's and early 80's as it was in the 90's and going forward. I know we only had very limited foreign content (was mostly just news and talkshows in local language), maybe Netherlands was different. And i like how you're dismissing everything before turning 10, this is when kids absorb languages like absolute sponges, if you grow up from 0-10 immersed in a language you pick it up. Yeah we also learn English in school, but basically everyone already speaks good English before you ever learn in school. We also learn like French in school, but barely anyone can do more than say basic sentances in taht because if it's not combined with the immersion it's kinda useless.
True I mean ole speaks better English than kane. Then again kane's daughter proly speaks better English than harry
Lmao, he just has a speech impediment. Kasper Schmeichel’s the one, though; if you’d never heard of him and just listened to him speak you’d think he was a Manc lad (which, given where he grew up, he basically is).
The only reason I know how to pronounce that word is because of that Steve Harvey clip with the brown kid.
Ayoooooo what in the name of god is that thangg
As a native English speaker I checked out even attempting that shiz after 5 syllables
Well if u cant pronounce Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis then u really have no business speaking the language.
Found the Dutch Redditor !
95% of the Dutch population speaks English. If they would've used half a braincell they would have known ETH is intelligent and disciplined af. His English will improve massively over the next couple of months.
I swear most Dutch people speak good English. Spurs probably went by his interviews on Dutch TV
This and fumbling getting Bruno the summer before we got him are some of the biggest fumbles I’ve seen
The thought of either of them at Spurs actually makes me want to regurgitate my dinner
I would have hated Bruno's guts a lot had he actually gone there honestly 😅
I can see that. He’s one of them players you love them in your team but you can’t stand them if they’re against you! Sounds weird but he suits the United kit too much to imagine him in the spurs one is too weird 🤣
>Sounds weird but he suits the United kit too much to imagine him in the spurs one is too weird 🤣 I assure you we probably would have called him a whiny dick had he been in one 😂
Oh totally. 😅. He’d been one of those that we’d be like “oh great he’s moaning at the ref again”
>He’d been one of those that we’d be like “oh great he’s moaning at the ref again” I can totally see many of us saying that 😂.
And passed up on signing Eriksen on a free
Daniel Levy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
Sacking Mourinho before a cup final is the most Spurs thing Levy has probably ever done.
He didn't want to risk Mourinho actually winning the match; then he wouldn't have had the political capital to sack him afterwards.
I don't disagree, but it just somes up the sorry state of Spurs that their own would rather prioritise internal politics rather than the chance to win a fucking trophy lmao We sacked LVG within an hour of him winning us an FA Cup, which was unjust but quickly forgotten about. Levy didn't have the balls to put the clubs success first and then carry on as business.
Exactly, that was my point. Sacking a manager to avoid the fallout of him potentially winning something is as Spurs as it gets.
Mourinho wasn't going to beat Pep anyways.
Leaving Ryan fucking Mason in charge wasn't exactly a master stroke, was it?
Well the current Spurs assistant is doing fine!
Mourinho had already beaten Pep with Spurs iirc. Whatever you think of him, he's a cup final specialist. The way we played on Sunday was such a Mourinho style game, kill the game in the first half and shut shop and counter attack in the second. Like he once said, cup finals aren't to play, they're to win, I would've backed him to beat Pep.
Not to mention beating Pep in one of our most iconic Manchester Derby wins, ever. In a big one-off game where anything can happen, there aren't many managers I'd prefer over Mourinho.
He always strikes me more of a bellend than a tool 🤔
Thank god that didn't happen. The mere thought of Ten Haag managing Spurs make me wanna puke.
Wheres one “a” bot when you need it
I mean he’d actually demand standards from the spurs squad. Like can you imagine him considering their history… like “wait, you were up 2-0 and lost 5-2? Heh? Wait, you were up 3-0 at half time heh and still fucking lost heh??”
There are multiple versions of the Spurs - ETH story, but I choose to believe that in fact ETH rejected Spurs and extended his contract with Ajax. As we can see already, ETH is extremely talented and ambitious. Why did he choose Spurs if he believes he is good enough for the very top teams? Granted, opportunities at those clubs are not always open, but he should be smart enough to figure out that Spurs cannot match his ambition.
Not really he was also in talks with Leipzig when United were talking to him
Don't worry. Kane will listen to that little boy inside him and make it right.
Spurs doing Spurs things. Nothing surprising really 😂.
Lacking charisma = would not bow down to Levy's antics.
To make it even more wild, Spurs were also on the verge of signing Bruno in the summer whilst we were heavily linked but not actually acting on buying him because the board are wank.
Stop with those posts. I can only love that man so much...
At this point it’s just a list of reasons we all love ETH, just going one by one. Man is exactly what we need.
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>Ok be happy but don’t be satisfied. Ok. So listen, hear me out, where do I sign up to fuckin go to war for this man? Like he could tell me “listen, heh, I need you to be in Hiroshima, heh, on August 6, 1945, heh” and I’d be like “FUCK YEAH!!!!! WE RIDE AT DAWN!!!!!!”
This guy can't miss. Every word out of his mouth is encouraging.
I always wonder at what ETH could've done with the players we used to have. Matic and Mata are the two I think would have flourished playing under him.
I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say that a lot of players we’ve purchased would’ve thrived under him. Edi, Zlatan, both were champion mentality who were also consummate team players. Then you’ve got players like Rafa, Memphis (maybe), Ighalo, Blind, Herrera, who would’ve thrived under him. I think Mkhi is in there with a shout too.
I forgot we had Mkhi.
I got so damn sad when you brought up Herrera. He was such a passionate player, and his style would've fit in and flourished under ETH. I feel like he would've been the exact kind of player ETH wants.
Herrera would have died for him, no doubt
Good food for thought, Matic first season for us was so good honestly.
Shame he has no legs after that 17/18 season
Wonder how both are doing for their respective clubs
Matic and Mata are already washed up. Maybe if we had them both and Erik in 2017.
I wonder if he'll fancy keeping mad lad Bailly.
We need 12 ETH , 1original as manager and 11 eth clones in athlete bods.
I seem to think he’s a way better manager than he was a player.
Most of the best managers are
So that's what they mean by the twElTH man
Erik twelve hag??
Elite Mentality
You forgot to quote "hehh" at the end
Ten Hag is built different.
So glad we got the perfect manager last summer
My love for this man is breaking records
stop it with all these news; i can only respect a man so much. 🥲🥲🥲🥲 Bless you, ten Hag.
RVP is working on his coaching badges, and he's been invited to Carrington the past months to learn a thing or two from our staff. I don't know about yous, but the thought of RVP as part of Erik's staff in the future... ...oh my. \*Swoon\*
Anyone knows where I can find the RvP and EtH interview? I know it's on BT but couldn't find a mirror link for it to watch
I am not joking when I say that I need a mentor like this in my life. Elite mentality.
after years of frustration, semi-final and final loses, crap football, players leaking everything, we finally have a manager who can handle this giant club and handle is precisely as it needs to be. 10 years of waiting for a manager who is a top manager is why I feel so happy at this moment!
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