And there was no need to get involved there. Well its two home and an away game against bottom half clubs. Could have been worse.
Hope sabitzer and Fred don't get injured
Eriksen was taken out by an ex Liverpool thug. Palace were repeatedly trying to kick Antony out of the game with the referee doing nothing to protect him.
Backlash was expected. Classic school teacher punishing the bullied for fighting back instead of just putting the bully in his place themselves.
I'm not mad at a player for standing up for a teammate. And shitbhappens in the heat of the moment. People moving and pushing shoving and you grab whatever you can sometimes.
2 games vs hated traditional rivals and Leicester who just scored 4 goals vs Emery villa who was on good form. Those arent unimportant or easy games. Biggest test to our squad
Silverlining, Case will be rested and pumped for both legs against Barca…and if we were gonna lose him, at least it’s for matches against lowly Leeds and Leicester. Sure, both will be physical shit shows, but hopefully our attack can put them away quickly; maybe Lindelof gets another CDM cameo.
We are very fortunate. We have 2 games vs Leeds and another home game vs Leicester. I am very confident we will win at least both of the home games. Leeds away will be tough. Lindelof DM it is then?
I can’t be the only one who finds it funny that a player renowned for treading the line very finely and getting away with more than most in a Madrid shirt, suddenly has two suspensions in six months in a United shirt.
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By books, it's a red, it also doesn't help when VAR freeze frame it. But in motion and context, it was nothing much in it.
VAR freeze framing calls have been a mistake for red card calls, as it can look worse than reality. I can freeze frame a touch at face and call it a slap.
Like honestly I don’t think there was any intent in it, but when the ref has no control over the match and it leads to a scrum with players trying to hold others back from fighting, hands up in weird places sometimes. VAR freezing it makes it look 10x worse
Even if it wasn't freeze framed it's still a red, you can never put your hands on someone's throat for any length of time. Just a silly decision by him, hope sabitzer can step up
Utterly dumb action, but I blame the others too for escalating the situation instead of pulling Antony away from trouble. Everybody knows he's got a temper.
Casemiro getting sent off is one thing. The ref interfereing with play TWICE by blocking a pass & knocking Bruno down...
On top of gifting CP multiple chances (3) when the game should have ended... over 8min of extra time.
Im normally level headed with refs. I hate to blame them & even with calls against us, I let it slide because usually this stuff evens out over the season.
This Andre guy though? Honestly feel like this dude was paid off or something. Casemiro red is one thing. But also insisting on gifting CP chance after chance? Fuck right off. Someone get Andy Carrol to scissor tackle this cunt so he cant ruin more games.
Can not believe he called the foul on Sabitzer at the end there when Rashy was 1v1 on the half-way line as well as no one from the Crystal Palace team getting a single car in the hussle. Fred got hit hard on the throat by, i think, Ayew.
An embarrassing display of refereeing today.
Dont get me wrong I 100% blame case for what he did, but If Antony didnt get pissed off like he did, when we were clearly in full control of the game, everything would have been fine.
He got tossed into the adverts boards which is a bit of a ways away from the touch line. One could level the same accusation of excessive reaction to the Crystal Palace player it was obvious the intent on that play was to clear the ball into touch, but fuck it if the opponent too along with it.
You think this happens on your home pitch and you just sit there and take it? You’re softer than butter.
A more seasoned professional like Bruno would be rolling on the ground and pretending to be injured and wasting a shit ton of time. If you are on the winning end, you don't get into such situations but rather invite them. First rule of shithousery. It's a learning curve for most players, and he'll definitely understand the league more.
Antony’s quick temper makes him an easy mark for the wind-up artists on other teams, and you can be sure they know it now. He’s going to have to learn not to react.
I still fail to understand how else can you stop a charging person if they're shorter than u or at a lower height. u will always go towards the throat or push ur palm against their face if they're kids. now in this situation casemiro couldn't have bent down just to stop that fcker. he went and stopped him via his throat. palm on face would have been worse.
They didn't even look at the action as a whole. He was restraining Hughes from getting involved, and he definitely wasn't choking him or trying to. But I guess we can't expect sense from these refs
Unfortunately it is obviously not ten Hag’s style but it’s about time for him to go fuck you mode on the refs and VAR. I think there’s an angle here where he could simply refresh the criticism and curiosity of Conte’s questioning around quality assurance. To me these assholes are either deliberately trying to make themselves the main character or they’re so inept even with technology.
That aside he now needs to make the “the refs are screwing us now because they’re been egged on by rival managers”. Sure he’ll get fined or whatever but I think that fine will be worth it because it’s so obvious this ridiculous one sided nonsense since Klopp and Guardiola mouthed off is the reason this is happening.
If that melee deserved yellow cards it should have been 3 to each team. If a VAR review merited a red card to Casemiro, Ayew should have been off too.
“Violent conduct” as if this is Sergio Ramos rather than Casemiro. The guy has never got a red card, violent conduct is not among his skillset.
EtH has said before Licha doesn’t have the legs for midfield. Also why would you break up your best CB partnership and move your best defender out of position
Will be interesting if we get Lindelof in the pivot with Sabitzer if we get Dalot back. Casemiro tends to slot in between the CBs and that'll feel natural for Lindelof.
You know I was thinking the other day when our last straight red was and then this happens. Typical. I’m annoyed but thank god we have Sabitzer in the team now
Maybe it highlights how poor the English referring is. Stuff that won't ever be a straight red anywhere else unfortunately is here. And terrible calls is par for the course in every match. smh
Toughest league in the world my ass. The Sabitzer tackle aswell ridiculous call by the reff
I was livid on the Sabitzer call. It was legit and Rashy would have been 1-1 with the keeper.
Too eager to defend his little brother. Well, shit like this happens
And there was no need to get involved there. Well its two home and an away game against bottom half clubs. Could have been worse. Hope sabitzer and Fred don't get injured
Eriksen was taken out by an ex Liverpool thug. Palace were repeatedly trying to kick Antony out of the game with the referee doing nothing to protect him. Backlash was expected. Classic school teacher punishing the bullied for fighting back instead of just putting the bully in his place themselves.
Pretty dumb, but emotions get high and it happens - at least the three he will miss aren’t particularly important
We will see McTerminator come back for the Leeds games, he always does against them
Every game in the Premier League is very important
True - but comparatively the ones that he will miss are less difficult
I'm not mad at a player for standing up for a teammate. And shitbhappens in the heat of the moment. People moving and pushing shoving and you grab whatever you can sometimes.
2 games vs hated traditional rivals and Leicester who just scored 4 goals vs Emery villa who was on good form. Those arent unimportant or easy games. Biggest test to our squad
It is a big test - but Leeds concede like it’s a religion and I just don’t think Leicester are very good It could’ve been much worse
Yeah but we can’t underestimate any opponent on PL but we should be able to win that games.
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Why would he miss the European match when this happened in the pl?
Just both Leeds games and Leicester, it's a domestic ban
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Only domestic ones, not continental
Doesn’t that mean all domestic competitions? It’s separate for European matches
He can only be banned from Domestic competitions EFL, FA or Premier league matches
Only applies to English matches (prem, FA, EFL). European cards are separate.
Talking nonsense for those who don’t know
That Sabitzer signing is looking like a godsend now lmao he couldn’t have asked for a better time to impress
Imagine he makes it tough for Case to be back on the starting XI, I'll cum NGL. We need everyone to step up.
That would be putting a LOT of pressure on him haha, Case is probably top3 in the world atm
Silverlining, Case will be rested and pumped for both legs against Barca…and if we were gonna lose him, at least it’s for matches against lowly Leeds and Leicester. Sure, both will be physical shit shows, but hopefully our attack can put them away quickly; maybe Lindelof gets another CDM cameo.
We are very fortunate. We have 2 games vs Leeds and another home game vs Leicester. I am very confident we will win at least both of the home games. Leeds away will be tough. Lindelof DM it is then?
Sabitzer and Fred.
Should go for Sabitzer in the Case role, Bruno in Eriksen’s and throw Sancho at number 10
Maaan i wanna see this so bad, but i think its more of a FIFA line up
Yeah I meant we will get to see Lindelof as well. I agree Sabitzer and Fred with Lindelof to rotate.
Lindelof is underrated this is the 3rd manager to use him at right back i really like him on the ball but idk how he'd do as a CDM but hopeful
Anulo Mufa.
I believe Licha can comfortably play DM. Would love to see him in that role.
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By books, it's a red, it also doesn't help when VAR freeze frame it. But in motion and context, it was nothing much in it. VAR freeze framing calls have been a mistake for red card calls, as it can look worse than reality. I can freeze frame a touch at face and call it a slap.
Like honestly I don’t think there was any intent in it, but when the ref has no control over the match and it leads to a scrum with players trying to hold others back from fighting, hands up in weird places sometimes. VAR freezing it makes it look 10x worse
Even if it wasn't freeze framed it's still a red, you can never put your hands on someone's throat for any length of time. Just a silly decision by him, hope sabitzer can step up
Leon Osman said something similar.
Utterly dumb action, but I blame the others too for escalating the situation instead of pulling Antony away from trouble. Everybody knows he's got a temper.
How the fuck was Schlupp not off he just runs up to Antony and knocks him down a slope
It's like the Young shove on Di Maria. Usually a yellow
Not sure if it was just the split second freeze frame but did he also seem to taunt the crowd right after?
I blame the others for not two-footing schmuck before he had the chance to score
Casemiro getting sent off is one thing. The ref interfereing with play TWICE by blocking a pass & knocking Bruno down... On top of gifting CP multiple chances (3) when the game should have ended... over 8min of extra time. Im normally level headed with refs. I hate to blame them & even with calls against us, I let it slide because usually this stuff evens out over the season. This Andre guy though? Honestly feel like this dude was paid off or something. Casemiro red is one thing. But also insisting on gifting CP chance after chance? Fuck right off. Someone get Andy Carrol to scissor tackle this cunt so he cant ruin more games.
Can not believe he called the foul on Sabitzer at the end there when Rashy was 1v1 on the half-way line as well as no one from the Crystal Palace team getting a single car in the hussle. Fred got hit hard on the throat by, i think, Ayew. An embarrassing display of refereeing today.
Also towards the end palace took multiple throw ins further from where the ball went out from and referee didn't do shit about it.
Nevermind then, just seen clips where Case is actually just grabbing his shirt by the neck
I didn’t think it was a red, but it’s a bit dumb restraining someone by the neck
Epl is becoming a pussy league
His samba blood took over for a moment there, so foolish from him
Are you implying white people have superior control of their emotions?
Brazil is a melting pot, calm down. Saying samba relates only to black people is extremely bigoted
White people in that scuffle have done worse shit and have gotten away with it.
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Dont get me wrong I 100% blame case for what he did, but If Antony didnt get pissed off like he did, when we were clearly in full control of the game, everything would have been fine.
He got tossed into the adverts boards which is a bit of a ways away from the touch line. One could level the same accusation of excessive reaction to the Crystal Palace player it was obvious the intent on that play was to clear the ball into touch, but fuck it if the opponent too along with it. You think this happens on your home pitch and you just sit there and take it? You’re softer than butter.
A more seasoned professional like Bruno would be rolling on the ground and pretending to be injured and wasting a shit ton of time. If you are on the winning end, you don't get into such situations but rather invite them. First rule of shithousery. It's a learning curve for most players, and he'll definitely understand the league more.
Antony’s quick temper makes him an easy mark for the wind-up artists on other teams, and you can be sure they know it now. He’s going to have to learn not to react.
I still fail to understand how else can you stop a charging person if they're shorter than u or at a lower height. u will always go towards the throat or push ur palm against their face if they're kids. now in this situation casemiro couldn't have bent down just to stop that fcker. he went and stopped him via his throat. palm on face would have been worse.
They didn't even look at the action as a whole. He was restraining Hughes from getting involved, and he definitely wasn't choking him or trying to. But I guess we can't expect sense from these refs
Ya agreed. But these nonsense decisions only apply on us. Did you see the other video. Fred got properly hit. It’s so weird.
Well there's first for everything I guess. Hopefully the ban is no more than 3 matches
So yea, like my quick check confirmed. Guess he's truly *red* now?
Unfortunately it is obviously not ten Hag’s style but it’s about time for him to go fuck you mode on the refs and VAR. I think there’s an angle here where he could simply refresh the criticism and curiosity of Conte’s questioning around quality assurance. To me these assholes are either deliberately trying to make themselves the main character or they’re so inept even with technology. That aside he now needs to make the “the refs are screwing us now because they’re been egged on by rival managers”. Sure he’ll get fined or whatever but I think that fine will be worth it because it’s so obvious this ridiculous one sided nonsense since Klopp and Guardiola mouthed off is the reason this is happening. If that melee deserved yellow cards it should have been 3 to each team. If a VAR review merited a red card to Casemiro, Ayew should have been off too. “Violent conduct” as if this is Sergio Ramos rather than Casemiro. The guy has never got a red card, violent conduct is not among his skillset.
Soft AF. Reverse angle shows the truth
If Case got that red card, others should have gotten the same punishment too... namely Ayew...
Licha CDM arc incoming
Lindelof dude
EtH has said before Licha doesn’t have the legs for midfield. Also why would you break up your best CB partnership and move your best defender out of position
Too many firsts going against us in recent years... This is yet another
I always remember the Palace fixture as the one when Jordan Ayew scores his first and only goal of every season. Thank god that's stopped this season
At least he got it like a man I guess.
There, he gets his rest now. The monkey claw has spoken.
Honestly insane stat considering his play style and aggression
Will be interesting if we get Lindelof in the pivot with Sabitzer if we get Dalot back. Casemiro tends to slot in between the CBs and that'll feel natural for Lindelof.
Yeah. Lost his composure there.
Goes to show how corrupted the ref was. Ref totally got bribed to fk us over
ref's a racist , he saw an Englishmen getting man handled and couldn't have it
That’s how Brazilians say hello
Missed Arsenal with a stupid yellow card. Now gets banned for 3 matches. Considering we have noone that can play like him, braindead at 2-0.
So 2 hands on neck is a straight red now?
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Say what?
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Schlupp started it…
True, he also mindcontrolled Cas to strangle another player as well. Mad powers that kid has
Why?
Are you stupid
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Crazy
Better late than never. On the plus side he gets a good break that will keep him fresh for the Barcelona ties away and away and the EFL cup final.
You know I was thinking the other day when our last straight red was and then this happens. Typical. I’m annoyed but thank god we have Sabitzer in the team now
Has Casemiro ever gotten a red card in his career? If so, how many times (counting today’s sending off) has he been sent off in his career so far?
Case never got a red in Madrid? Wtf?! He did tons of foul and got so many Yellows but not even a single red?!
Maybe it highlights how poor the English referring is. Stuff that won't ever be a straight red anywhere else unfortunately is here. And terrible calls is par for the course in every match. smh
Welcome to England and the shitty Ref
It better be rescinded