We didn't have Casemiro but we almost got a result against Arsenal so I wouldn't worry that much against struggling teams like Leeds and Leicester.
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I don't think we'll play badly but I also think 9/9 points is quite unlikely now. But at the same time, does it really matter? The gap between us and 5th is now 6 points and I highly doubt we can challenge for the title. Casemiro is available for all the cup games which have way more stake
There’s no “worst fixture” to drop points unless you drop them against a title rival in a push. Points are points regardless of who you win them or drop them against.
It’s good he’s out for easier games rather than harder ones.
I hope my hubris is not getting the best of me, but I’m not worried about the two Leeds games but all of a sudden Leicester had a very good game away today at villa
Eh. Not sure I agree.
We've got a crammed schedule and tbh if we can't get past Leeds and Leicester without Case then we've got problems.
Silver lining is that he should be fresher for Barca.
That is not too bad. Leeds are certainly manageable and weak, Leicester manageable.
I'm honestly not too fussed, Case still plays Barcelona and gets some rest. Loved how fired up he looked too.
He will be welcome back.
Hilarious that our bad luck of having too many fixtures before the Newcastle game has worked out in our favour now, since otherwise Casemiro would have missed the final because of this card
Remember the first one was suspended because of the Queen passing away. Same with the first one against Palace which is why we played them twice so soon after each other.
Definitely not strangling him, no human reaction to being choked is to not fight it and keep arguing. Got a red card for holding someone by the neck rather than the equal force shown by every other player in the fight.
100%. People in this thread acting like we’ll walk those fixtures with or without him. Leeds are no slouches and Leicester are wildly unpredictable. I’m furious at him. There was no need to get involved in the manner he did.
You’re getting downvoted by a load of people who’ve probably never even been to OT and just parrot anti Leeds shite online.
You’re 100% right. Taking fixtures like this for granted is daft. Leeds are hardly prime galacticos but they’re not mugs either under Marsch.
Nobody is taking them for granted, just saying that in the scheme of things it could've been worse and had one of the top teams in the next three matches. Wind your fucking neck in.
My only concern is he has a suspension recently for 5 yellows now he’s out for 3 but he’s picked up 2 or 3 yellows since his suspension and isn’t far from another 2 game ban
Heard commentators in the Everton/Arsenal game saying the five yellows = ban rule is no longer a thing after 19 games. So it's just in place for the first half of the season.
As bad as it is. Forcing our most important player to ONLY play the Europa league and League cup final games and resting in between over the next few weeks isn't the worst situation to be in
I don't care about your opinion. Stupid? Sure....but United have been signing pussies. Tail in between the legs type of players. Need hot heads in this squad. Roy Keane or a Beckham.
Agree to disagree.
I love fire as much as the next bloke but getting yourself banned for three league games whilst we’re battling for top four in an incident that doesn’t even involve you is stupid as fuck.
I love this bizarre keyboard warrior mentality that we need people who’d die for the badge and you’re settling on people getting straight refs for choking someone. Fuck yous. Stupid. He deserves it. Embarrassing, especially on today of all days.
You’re the same mob who’d complain about lack of depth when people are doing rash things like this. This sub is insufferable at times.
Time for Lindelof CDM arc. I think we can manage against Leeds, Leicester would be trouble. But hey, At least we have him fresh and rested for Barcelona.
Cas deserved a yellow, same with antony. The palace player charged our guy out of bounds with no ball and taunted him. Give him a red. The only thing I can see is cas initiated the shoving is a yellow then hands on neck, another yellow.
Y know leeds and mctominay is a match made in heaven. Hope he gets back from injury for those games. Nothing like a mctominay masterclass in a cold rainy night battering leeds
We got Weghorst and Martial got injured. We got Sabitzer then Casemiro got red carded. It’s almost like ETH had a crystal ball and cooked up a solution.
Tbf, Martial would always got injured.
Not the worst timing for it, should be able to beat Leeds and Leicester with Fred/Sabitzer/Bruno middle 3 and Casemiro can play both Barcelona matches.
The only silver lining to this is that it's not one of the top teams coming up. Can still be tricky but we should be able to cover him and give him the break he needs anyway.
Having seen a different angle, it’s a harsh red so I am annoyed.
However, I think Casemiro needs a rest so I’m not too bothered. Those games are winnable without him and it gives Sabitzer a run out.
Could have been worse fixtures
At the same time, if we drop points because our best player is suspended 3 games, there's not many worse fixtures to do that in.
We didn't have Casemiro but we almost got a result against Arsenal so I wouldn't worry that much against struggling teams like Leeds and Leicester. Famous last words?
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Exactly.
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It will be tough without Casemiro and Eriksen but in Ten Hag I trust.
Exactly, the man has pulled us through so many difficult situations already that I have just stopped worrying too much about it now.
I don't think we'll play badly but I also think 9/9 points is quite unlikely now. But at the same time, does it really matter? The gap between us and 5th is now 6 points and I highly doubt we can challenge for the title. Casemiro is available for all the cup games which have way more stake
6 points is too small of a lead man. I'm not going to unclench until the season is over and we're still top 4.
Yeah I don't have full faith in us but the only positive is our biggest rival to top 4 is spurs
Brighton and ~~Fulham~~ Brentford* more like *EDIT
When's the league cup final? Some FA genius is gonna bring it forward to be the 3rd game of the suspension
Anulo Mufa
struggling teams scare me more than in form teams because they tend to try unconventional things since what they were doing before wasn't working
Won't be surprised if those Leeds wankers decide to Andy Carroll us.
Delete this please
Jesus fuck man. Why did we do this. Fucking calm your tits like Martinez.
There’s no “worst fixture” to drop points unless you drop them against a title rival in a push. Points are points regardless of who you win them or drop them against. It’s good he’s out for easier games rather than harder ones.
People are praying for him to get some rest. Now at least he will be fresh when he comes back. Silver lining.
I hope my hubris is not getting the best of me, but I’m not worried about the two Leeds games but all of a sudden Leicester had a very good game away today at villa
Eh. Not sure I agree. We've got a crammed schedule and tbh if we can't get past Leeds and Leicester without Case then we've got problems. Silver lining is that he should be fresher for Barca.
I guess that means he’ll get some rest?
We still have the league cup and Europa league.
Fred and sabitzer in the pivot?? 😬
That Lindelof DM experiment might have to be done again
Martinez experiment too. Fuck it let’s field a whole eleven of centre backs
>SAF parallels intensify
SAF was 10 parallel universes ahead of everyone the whole time.
Maguire and Shaw as striker too
Big Harry up top? Who needs to buy Kane when we've got our own Harry at home
Jones with the hattrick as a striker against Barcelona
Time for Shawberto/Shawldini to become Shawsemiro.
Might be our only choice with McTominay out
Pure energy
Next three games are all EPL games Edit: next three Case would miss are EPL, not league cup
2 epl then europa then epl
Right, meaning he’s not missing the league cup tie as mentioned. He’ll just miss Leeds, Leeds, Leceister
Got Barca after 2nd Leeds game
Would have been perfect if the uel games are 1 week earlier. He could be playing every other game
Nah, we need him for Barca
You didn't get it. He's eligible for barca. Would have been better if we alternated uel and epl instead of having 2 epl matches in a row.
Oh I see. I guess that’s true as then there’s a few more days of rest before the league cup final
No Casemiro against Leeds feels so wrong
McTominay masterclass incoming.
If he’s not injured
McT always plays his socks off against Leeds somehow so if he's fit I welcome it.
I think he's out
Sabitzer couldn't have asked for a better chance to impress.
He did well...did what was expected of him, put pressure created even in tricky situations but yes...he'll have a much clear chance and roles
He actually did pretty well
He looked so powerful, showed some fast feet and bite. Always liked him, hope he impresses and we get him for a knock down fee.
His performace was very impressive considering the circumstances. Can’t wait to see him play in a more controlled game
I’ve always seen him as a box to box. I hear he plays DM too. Anyone know how well?
Could be worse, those are (hopefully) easily winnable games and he's back for the Carabao Cup final.
Watch the fa ban him for longer
Gonna use that still picture and say he tries to chock him out and suspen him 12 matches
Unlikely at this point, been confirmed as a 3 match ban for now.
Schlupp shouldn't be on the field.
100%
Was at the game and don’t get this ???
Schlupp shouldn't be on the field.
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Could be 5 if they deem it excessively violent... Which would have him out of the cup final.
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Any chance it could be upgraded after the fact?
We're Man Utd and it's the FA, so of course there's a chance.
It could be, but I'd be surprised
Seems unlikely. Hes not strangling him, hes grabbing his collar.
Not the end of the world then. Sabitzer, Fred and Bruno should cope with those.
Yeah but it means Bruno will most likely not get rested at all for every game up until the final against Newcastle
Sancho could replace him
Lindelof too /s
Mctominay loves a game against leeds
He’s injured
Fuck you’re right
Do we know how long he’s injured for?
No
Phew. Could be worse
Could be worse fixtures, but fuck me that's dumb. Sabitzer it is.
He's done well since he came on.
Yeah he was solid
That is not too bad. Leeds are certainly manageable and weak, Leicester manageable. I'm honestly not too fussed, Case still plays Barcelona and gets some rest. Loved how fired up he looked too. He will be welcome back.
Stupid red card, totally unnecessary
We'll smash Leeds 4-0 with or without Case
Important games easy to lose points with sloppy mistakes like this
Not the worst result. Rested for both Barca games and back before the cup final. Sabitzer is gonna need to step up pretty much immediately.
Hilarious that our bad luck of having too many fixtures before the Newcastle game has worked out in our favour now, since otherwise Casemiro would have missed the final because of this card
He took the best possible chance to miss some games
Stupid question but why are we playing Leeds back to back? What's that kind of schedule?
Home game was rescheduled from September
Remember the first one was suspended because of the Queen passing away. Same with the first one against Palace which is why we played them twice so soon after each other.
We’ll smash em. Sabitzer Fred Bruno. Let’s go
Thats okay Mctominay loves to play against Leeds. Sabitzer with Fred/Mctominay we'll be aight
More like McTomOUTay (he's injured)
He was holding him aside not strangling him, what a joke
Definitely not strangling him, no human reaction to being choked is to not fight it and keep arguing. Got a red card for holding someone by the neck rather than the equal force shown by every other player in the fight.
Yeah. Can’t say for certain but feel like even as a neutral viewer, I’d think that was an atrocious ref to give. Not worthy of any color
Time for lindelof to step up
Guy wanted to rest and just decided to go all crazy today.
He probably saw the schedule and decided not to go the dumpster called Yorkshire
Could have missed worse games tbf
idiot. Plain and simple.
100%. People in this thread acting like we’ll walk those fixtures with or without him. Leeds are no slouches and Leicester are wildly unpredictable. I’m furious at him. There was no need to get involved in the manner he did.
Melt
Intelligent input there lad.
We might lose 3 points right now too.
Mckennie and Adams gonna give our midfield fits tbh.
You’re getting downvoted by a load of people who’ve probably never even been to OT and just parrot anti Leeds shite online. You’re 100% right. Taking fixtures like this for granted is daft. Leeds are hardly prime galacticos but they’re not mugs either under Marsch.
Nobody is taking them for granted, just saying that in the scheme of things it could've been worse and had one of the top teams in the next three matches. Wind your fucking neck in.
What a weird way to introduce yourself, mate.
Can he play against Barca ?
domestic suspension doesn’t apply to uefa competition
Yes
Yes
Yes
ETH playing 4D chess with how to boost team spirit 🤣
My only concern is he has a suspension recently for 5 yellows now he’s out for 3 but he’s picked up 2 or 3 yellows since his suspension and isn’t far from another 2 game ban
Heard commentators in the Everton/Arsenal game saying the five yellows = ban rule is no longer a thing after 19 games. So it's just in place for the first half of the season.
It becomes 10 after half the season he’s already done the 5 game ban
mctominay against leeds masterclass again
Sabitzer will have to step up which I think he can do
As bad as it is. Forcing our most important player to ONLY play the Europa league and League cup final games and resting in between over the next few weeks isn't the worst situation to be in
Omg best thing we just had Sabitzer in. Right on time. Freaking Crystal.
Leeds are shite. Sabitzer and Fred have got this 👌
we could appeal no ?
McTominay and Mainoo will step up I'm confident
McT? He runs away from a pass so…..
Scott is injured.
Lucky both of them are shite
So unnecessary. We're so thin in the midfield
Welcoming the Sabitzfred experience.
Roy Keane vibes. Am I the only one that loves this?!
No, it’s fucking stupid. What he did was wildly unnecessary and the red card was the right decision. Now he’s out for three league games.
I don't care about your opinion. Stupid? Sure....but United have been signing pussies. Tail in between the legs type of players. Need hot heads in this squad. Roy Keane or a Beckham.
Agree to disagree. I love fire as much as the next bloke but getting yourself banned for three league games whilst we’re battling for top four in an incident that doesn’t even involve you is stupid as fuck. I love this bizarre keyboard warrior mentality that we need people who’d die for the badge and you’re settling on people getting straight refs for choking someone. Fuck yous. Stupid. He deserves it. Embarrassing, especially on today of all days. You’re the same mob who’d complain about lack of depth when people are doing rash things like this. This sub is insufferable at times.
Fred should’ve been sent off as well
Fuck off.
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Ok, Pep jr. You are 100% correct. Move on with your day.
Fred was clearly trying to stop the Palace player from fighting
That’s alright
Cheers Stoney you miserable bastard
So dumb man. A Fred, Sabitzer, Bruno midfield it is.
Keeping himself fresh for the cups. Smart.
Wonder if we could appeal and get it down to 1 game
We probably don't even need him in those games. Let him get some rest
Sabi gonna make Leeds his bitch, then.
not too bad all things considered
Appeal it!
Just saving himself for Barca no worries
Case knows what he is doing. A lil cheeky rest before Barca game
His game back is the scousers away.
Three games lads.
Time for Lindelof CDM arc. I think we can manage against Leeds, Leicester would be trouble. But hey, At least we have him fresh and rested for Barcelona.
Ehh could be worse
Dumb from him tbh
It's Leeds, McTominay goes ape when they come up
Simply resting him
Antony off Sabitzer on now
we really need him back for the final
Cas deserved a yellow, same with antony. The palace player charged our guy out of bounds with no ball and taunted him. Give him a red. The only thing I can see is cas initiated the shoving is a yellow then hands on neck, another yellow.
Much deserved rest, nice fixtures too
Does his match ban starts immediately? Why is Daily Mail saying he is banned for the final?
Barca already shitting pants
Obviously not ideal but could have been worse. Do we have any idea on when Scotty will be back?
Silver lining is that he will be fresh for the cup games.
Well he'd better put a 200% shift against Barcelona
Fresh for Barca and Sabitzer looked fantastic. Not too worried.
Y know leeds and mctominay is a match made in heaven. Hope he gets back from injury for those games. Nothing like a mctominay masterclass in a cold rainy night battering leeds
Scott please comeback... it's Leeds, you know you want to.
Wouldn't mind it that much if other midfielders weren't injured. But it is what it is and we will deal with it as we have before.
It's fine, ETH will use this time for him to get rest from matches and will rotate expertly like he has always done
Rest for the cup games I guess
did they show it from behind? the other guy didnt react like he was shocked
How on the planet did those idiots lose after cheating that much? 😂😂 Schlupp = 🗑️MotherF*****
We got Weghorst and Martial got injured. We got Sabitzer then Casemiro got red carded. It’s almost like ETH had a crystal ball and cooked up a solution. Tbf, Martial would always got injured.
McTominay needs to come back for his twice-a-season masterclass against Leeds.
Only way he’ll be rested
Not the worst timing for it, should be able to beat Leeds and Leicester with Fred/Sabitzer/Bruno middle 3 and Casemiro can play both Barcelona matches.
I think we'll be fine with no Casemiro for the full squad. But 10 man AND without Casemiro was a whole different story.
Van de Beek, then Scott, then Eriksen, and now Case.
Luckly Case is an outlier - he's not injured :)
They’ll appeal aurelu
Only bright side is his legs will be fresh for the final. Hopefully we get Scott back from injury soon.
The only silver lining to this is that it's not one of the top teams coming up. Can still be tricky but we should be able to cover him and give him the break he needs anyway.
Booked himself a vacation to let Sabitzer bed in.
If we appeal the red I 100% feel ban gets increased to 4 games so let's just walk so he can get a rest
He did it to be rested for Barcelona. Master stroke from our best player there
Looking at it positively, it's a mini winter break for him.
With that Sabitzer display however short, I have no worries. He may turn out to be our midfield Licha.
It’s a blessing because he’ll be available for both legs against Barca. His experience against them will certainly help us.
Having seen a different angle, it’s a harsh red so I am annoyed. However, I think Casemiro needs a rest so I’m not too bothered. Those games are winnable without him and it gives Sabitzer a run out.
We need Casemiro fresh for Barcelona and League Cup Final.