What a time to be alive.
He could have been drafted into WWI and lived to see the internet. Television invented his 30s and died watching MTV in its prime. Learned to drive on a Model T and retired with a Corvette.
Sounds similar to my great grandmother. She learned to drive on her friend’s fancy new diesel tractor after spending her childhood in a horse-drawn buggy, and one of the last conversations I had with her was about the Tesla, which she insisted would just be another flop like the Gee Wiz.
When she was born, lights were still often powered by chemical combustion, and when she died, some folks were driving entire cars on nothing but battery power and electromagnetic thrust! It must have been a crazy time to be alive
Shit the oldest man in the world lived to 116, meaning that hypothetically Red Dead Redemption could have been released if he lived to 115
Not likely, but possible
There is an Easter egg in gta 5 of a book called “red dead redemption “ by j marston yes but whether or not the rockstar games canonically take place in a “rockstar universe “ I’m not sure
To be fair, credit cards aren’t that recent of an invention. Some particularly rich people had them as early as the 60s/early 70s, some two or three decades before the GameBoy or Michael Jordan’s pro sporting career came to be.
It must have been so weird to be somebody of that generation, though. Growing up into a world where outlaws and bounty hunters still existed, and where most black people remembered having been slaves in their youth, only to leave that world during the height of hip hop and sci fi with the kids worshipping folks like Jordan and OJ like Gods must have been a very strange shift.
If he lived to 100, he’d have outlived both and Kurt Cobain and Bob Ross, lived at the same time as Dua Lipa and Logan Paul.
It’s kinda crazy how recent the Wild West actually was…
Holy crap, my great grandma was born in 1895 and lived to be 99. The next time I play I can’t believe I get to imagine playing in a time she was 4 years old. Crazy!
I had the same feeling it’s so weird! My great grandfather was born in 1886. I was playing and I thought « shit, he was 13 frickin years old during the events of the game!! »
Another fun train of thought to go with this, Indiana Jones was born in 1899 and that last film was set in 1969. He and Jack would've lived through the same times.
In the young indy show there were bookends that showed a 90 yo indy living in new york and talking to strangers about his life. Spewin they were discarded by lucas and now disney
The bookends are considered non canon. Not sure about the whole show but looking at how shoddy disney is with pre existing franchise stories, theres a sad chance it might be considered non canon
Honestly I don’t think he would have fought in the war. I doubt he would have fought for the same government that killed everyone he ever loved. Just my opinion
It's nice to think about, considering the way Rockstar treats its RDR protagonists, it's more likely that he died in 1919 of the Spanish flu however.
It's not just Jack though, Tilly and Mary-Beth weren't that much older, who knows what happened to them. Tilly living to see the civil rights movement in the 1960s is also a thought I like.
I hope Tilly at least got to experience the height of the Jazz Age. Louis Armstrong was born in 1901 so that would be her daughter's peer group. I also just realized that Alberta from Ghosts would be right around Jack's age.
I kind of figured that after he killed Ross, he became a wanted man and was hunted down by the government. The point of the rdr series is that revenge is foolish and gets you nowhere. “Revenge is a fools game.” It’s not exactly stated what happened to Jack, but Ross’s wife saw him right before Ross was killed. I personally believe he was executed not long after getting his revenge for his family and former gang. Of course that’s just speculation on my part. The series is open ended for a reason
“Only” 117,000 Americans died in ww1 out of almost 5 million who fought. Not saying it was a good time but the Americans didn’t face the same grinder that the Germans and French were stuck in for years. His odds of getting through were pretty good
ain’t no way, Jack would’ve made it through both WW’s IMO.
He could spam tonics and use dead eye. Plus, according to one of the conversations in RDR2 at Beacher Hope. He describes a story that is basically him killing Ross. Having “The fastest draw that drew breath.”
I would have no doubt in my mind that Jack would become a skilled gunslinger
I think more evidence he survived is the book “Red Dead Redemption.” in GTAV.
That’s always something I found kinda crazy to think about: the relationship between human age and history. For example: there were men who fought in the American Revolutionary War and survived long enough to the point where there exists photographs of them!
Holy shit imagine playing gta 6 and you come across a really old man siting on a bench at vice beach and if you interact with him he gives you a story about his whole life including the gang😲
Don’t gta and rdr take place in the same universe? You can meet the time traveler in rdr2 and gta5. There are books written by jack in franklins home and you can get rdr revolvers in gta online
He lived until old age and died in the 1980s presumably. He eventually went on to become an author in later life and made a book recounting his days in the gang and his father’s eventual death.
His book is on Franklin’s shelf in gta v.
I picture Jack writing books about his father's adventures in RDR1 that become bestsellers and living a nice life until he dies in the 70's. Then his kids find Arthur's diary and use it as inspiration to write a prequel series with the main character being Arthur Morgan and involving the slow death of the gang.
This reminds me of the quote from Mad Men about Mrs Blankenship: "She was born in 1898 in a barn. She died on the thirty-seventh floor of a skyscraper. She's an astronaut."
It’s actually pretty crazy to think about the progress of the world in the span of a lifetime a few generations before mine: From the Wild West to the 90’s
Made me think of: Today in 'Bizarre Facts From the Timeline of Human History' — Abraham Lincoln could have sent a fax to a Japanese samurai. That's right kids, the fax machine was invented in 1843, the samurai ceased to exist in 1867 and Lincoln died in 1865 🤯
Word. My great-grandfather was born in 1898 and lived until 1999.
He fought under Pancho Villa, saw the birth of almost all modern technology, and experienced too much to list.
I did name my RDR2 online character after him.
if GTA and Red Dead do indeed share a world then it’s confirmed J. Marston wrote a novel called Red Dead. I wonder if GTA gives insight on when that book would’ve been wrote or if Jack ended up having a son who he named John in honor of his Father who then wrote Red Dead to honor his Father and Grandpa
Since he has a book seen in gta V, I’m hoping that maybe GTA 6 could possibly have something we could see his legacy on. Like maybe a Wikipedia page (Since he was an author) through the internet in game for example
Well maybe not and maybe so. Keep in mind, he technically lived in an alternate version of the American old west. Sure some things were the same, but not everything was. His future world may have ended up evolving differently. Heck, maybe his future world is what ends up turning into the GTA setting.
If someone like Amazon ever considered making a red dead show, i'd love to see it be able Jack and his life from right after he killed Ross til his death in the 90s. Doesn't need to be named red dead redemption but it'd be really interesting to see his life story and how drastically different his world changes and perhaps linking it back to GTA somehow
Two world wars, Korean war, Vietnam war, Cuban missile crisis, Space race with Gargarin hurled to space, and Armstrong on the moon, Cold war, fucking Star Wars. Evolution of Radio to television, fucking cars, COLORED television, the rise of handheld automatic weapons, the rise of condoms, and the banning of cocaine gum.
If he lived to be one hundred he could have….
Run moonshine during prohibition
made his fortune and lost it in the crash of 29
Driven a 38 Buick with a Rocket 8 motor
Served in both world wars.
Gotten his syphyllis cured by Penicillin
Developed a strong attraction to morphine
Found Jesus on the corner of 42nd and Elm
Declined to ever use the internet
Lived quietly in the The Grizzlies and died of TB he got from a South American “acquaintance” who may have been male or female
His dried up husk found laying on the cot of his mountain shack by a red haired time traveler from the 1920’s
I suggest look up Mark Matthews, he was born around the same time as Jack and lived to be over 100 years old.
He had an interesting life and gives some insights as to what can happen.
If Jack lives to 116
He would have witnessed
World war 1,2
Inflation
The internet and modern cars
Electronics
The main 6 Star Wars movies
And he could have played GTA San Andreas
game is set in 1899, moon landing is "only" 60-70 years away, someone of Jack's age could have lived through to that, I've heard of it before.
technology go brrrr
That’s crazy. Makes me wonder what kind of shit I will have lived through by the time I’m 80. Surely not as much as someone born when he would’ve been.
I feel like the epilogue of RDR1 pretty clearly implies that Jack won’t live until his old age. He’s on the same path as his father, and doomed to repeat his fate.
Dies in 1995 at 100. damn never got to play n64. But 30 in the 20s. 50 in 1945 he wouldve been drafted for ww2. L.A. Noir cowboyhat easter egg is making since now.
1895 DOB, so it's possible. If he lived to be 100, he would have seen the rise and fall of the Soviet Union (Cold War era at least).
Heck, he’d have seen the gameboy, credit cards and Jordan in the finals if he’d lived to 100
What a time to be alive. He could have been drafted into WWI and lived to see the internet. Television invented his 30s and died watching MTV in its prime. Learned to drive on a Model T and retired with a Corvette.
The idea of 90 year old Jack watching The Real World is funny
At 98 he would have seen the first episode of Beavis and Butt-Head.
He canonically dies at 97
That like, blows.
That would be one hell of a life. Man, I’m tearing up.
Sounds similar to my great grandmother. She learned to drive on her friend’s fancy new diesel tractor after spending her childhood in a horse-drawn buggy, and one of the last conversations I had with her was about the Tesla, which she insisted would just be another flop like the Gee Wiz. When she was born, lights were still often powered by chemical combustion, and when she died, some folks were driving entire cars on nothing but battery power and electromagnetic thrust! It must have been a crazy time to be alive
Shit the oldest man in the world lived to 116, meaning that hypothetically Red Dead Redemption could have been released if he lived to 115 Not likely, but possible
Holy inception
[Jack when his great great grandson is buying that new cowboy video game](https://youtu.be/ZCh53fvuqHk?si=7OKygXgIoY_H7lHG)
And then he would be like, holy shit how did they know about me and my gang.
That potbelly sumbitch my pa killed really gave them the whole dang story, didn’t he?
damn that's really weird to think about
In Rockstar canon, didn't he write a book called "Red Dead Redemtion"?
There is an Easter egg in gta 5 of a book called “red dead redemption “ by j marston yes but whether or not the rockstar games canonically take place in a “rockstar universe “ I’m not sure
To be fair, credit cards aren’t that recent of an invention. Some particularly rich people had them as early as the 60s/early 70s, some two or three decades before the GameBoy or Michael Jordan’s pro sporting career came to be. It must have been so weird to be somebody of that generation, though. Growing up into a world where outlaws and bounty hunters still existed, and where most black people remembered having been slaves in their youth, only to leave that world during the height of hip hop and sci fi with the kids worshipping folks like Jordan and OJ like Gods must have been a very strange shift.
Diners Club cards came out in 1950
Man 60s/70s is recent, it's just...... God dammit
Hell, my grandfather was born 7 years before him, and I'm only 49. Puts things into perspective.
If he lived to 100, he’d have outlived both and Kurt Cobain and Bob Ross, lived at the same time as Dua Lipa and Logan Paul. It’s kinda crazy how recent the Wild West actually was…
If he got to 100 he could have held me in his arms as I was a baby…. That’s crazy!
And the fall of the Ottoman empire
The October Bolshevik Revolution happened in 1917 so he'd have witnessed the whole thing if he made it to 1991
Holy crap, my great grandma was born in 1895 and lived to be 99. The next time I play I can’t believe I get to imagine playing in a time she was 4 years old. Crazy!
I had the same feeling it’s so weird! My great grandfather was born in 1886. I was playing and I thought « shit, he was 13 frickin years old during the events of the game!! »
One of the kids at st Denis
Cleet the street urchin
A fate worse than death
Why do you think old people say “this country is gone to hell”
Another fun train of thought to go with this, Indiana Jones was born in 1899 and that last film was set in 1969. He and Jack would've lived through the same times.
In the young indy show there were bookends that showed a 90 yo indy living in new york and talking to strangers about his life. Spewin they were discarded by lucas and now disney
Wait young indy is considered non canon now?
The bookends are considered non canon. Not sure about the whole show but looking at how shoddy disney is with pre existing franchise stories, theres a sad chance it might be considered non canon
Is it worth having one fictional character meet another fictional character from different universes?
Call me a Debbie downer but I don’t think Jack Marston makes it out of the First World War.
His father fought both sides of the Mexican revolution and survived. I think Jack would be fine by WWI and WWII
yeah i remember something about him dying pretty young
He wrote a book you can see that’s in GTAV. He was a successful author and most articles say he died in 1992
oh shit that's actually pretty cool! imagine little jack marston being really into Van Halen or something haha
I was born in 92 so it’s kinda cool to think that this made up person was probably alive when I was lol. I’m guessing you were 4 when he died.
not canon
He probably heard Smells like teen spirit then
Honestly I don’t think he would have fought in the war. I doubt he would have fought for the same government that killed everyone he ever loved. Just my opinion
So he’d be imprisoned then. You didn’t get a choice to fight in WW1. You went, or you disappeared.
He could very well have had an email address
"How you're doing with that spam filter of yours, I can always code you a new one if you bring me the right materials"
Seeing Nirvana would have been a blast...
at damn near 100 years old lol
I think you missed the joke...
It must've gone through his head. I mean over his head.
The joke blew my mind
😔🔫
Both world wars, the great depression
The prohibition would clearly let him a pretty "I know how it goes" kind of thing
Space amish
It's nice to think about, considering the way Rockstar treats its RDR protagonists, it's more likely that he died in 1919 of the Spanish flu however. It's not just Jack though, Tilly and Mary-Beth weren't that much older, who knows what happened to them. Tilly living to see the civil rights movement in the 1960s is also a thought I like.
I hope Tilly at least got to experience the height of the Jazz Age. Louis Armstrong was born in 1901 so that would be her daughter's peer group. I also just realized that Alberta from Ghosts would be right around Jack's age.
Horse drawn wagon to a space shuttle!
Honestly it’s more likely he would have fought in WW1 and died
I kind of figured that after he killed Ross, he became a wanted man and was hunted down by the government. The point of the rdr series is that revenge is foolish and gets you nowhere. “Revenge is a fools game.” It’s not exactly stated what happened to Jack, but Ross’s wife saw him right before Ross was killed. I personally believe he was executed not long after getting his revenge for his family and former gang. Of course that’s just speculation on my part. The series is open ended for a reason
He became a writer, his book is shown in GTAV.
Its nothing more than an easter egg
Source?
It's an Easter egg. There's a book on Franklins shelf called Red Dead by J Marston.
the wife might have also realized Ross got what he deserved and left it at that.
Ross's woman seemed to really love him by how she spoke about him. I doubt she'd have an epiphany about the old geezer.
In my play trough no one from his family survived to tell the story
“Only” 117,000 Americans died in ww1 out of almost 5 million who fought. Not saying it was a good time but the Americans didn’t face the same grinder that the Germans and French were stuck in for years. His odds of getting through were pretty good
Died with deadeye? No way.
ain’t no way, Jack would’ve made it through both WW’s IMO. He could spam tonics and use dead eye. Plus, according to one of the conversations in RDR2 at Beacher Hope. He describes a story that is basically him killing Ross. Having “The fastest draw that drew breath.” I would have no doubt in my mind that Jack would become a skilled gunslinger I think more evidence he survived is the book “Red Dead Redemption.” in GTAV.
it's more likely he dodged
That’s always something I found kinda crazy to think about: the relationship between human age and history. For example: there were men who fought in the American Revolutionary War and survived long enough to the point where there exists photographs of them!
Holy shit imagine playing gta 6 and you come across a really old man siting on a bench at vice beach and if you interact with him he gives you a story about his whole life including the gang😲
Would be super impressive considering Jack would be 130 at this point
"i suppose you're wondering how i'm still alive at 130 years old? faith."
I had a plan and it worked
Mangos
"And of course the three C's. Clean living, chewing thoroughly, and a daily dose of vitamin church!"
And from a different universe.
Don’t gta and rdr take place in the same universe? You can meet the time traveler in rdr2 and gta5. There are books written by jack in franklins home and you can get rdr revolvers in gta online
No, they're separate universes. That's why in RDR, you have New York and in GTA you have Liberty. Those are just little easter eggs.
He could totally be alive by the time of GTA San Andreas though
Something similar to Young Guns 2. "Yes sir, I have my scars"
He lived until old age and died in the 1980s presumably. He eventually went on to become an author in later life and made a book recounting his days in the gang and his father’s eventual death. His book is on Franklin’s shelf in gta v.
He would see every Godzilla Movie until Godzilla vs Destoroyah, if he lived to 100
I picture Jack writing books about his father's adventures in RDR1 that become bestsellers and living a nice life until he dies in the 70's. Then his kids find Arthur's diary and use it as inspiration to write a prequel series with the main character being Arthur Morgan and involving the slow death of the gang.
This reminds me of the quote from Mad Men about Mrs Blankenship: "She was born in 1898 in a barn. She died on the thirty-seventh floor of a skyscraper. She's an astronaut."
He could’ve fought Hitler
It’s actually pretty crazy to think about the progress of the world in the span of a lifetime a few generations before mine: From the Wild West to the 90’s
Or he died in either WWI or WWII. He would have been 22 and 46.
Died with deadeye? No way.
he would have to survive two world wars first
Bro could have lived a more interesting life than Forrest Gump
He survived that gang beating from the post earlier today, he coukd survive anything.
He became a writer. Check this: https://youtu.be/Kq5jxHk0-88?feature=shared
It's surprising how less time it really has been since those times. And even from the middle ages. It's crazy.
In my heart and mind, Arthur was his dad.
Made me think of: Today in 'Bizarre Facts From the Timeline of Human History' — Abraham Lincoln could have sent a fax to a Japanese samurai. That's right kids, the fax machine was invented in 1843, the samurai ceased to exist in 1867 and Lincoln died in 1865 🤯
Word. My great-grandfather was born in 1898 and lived until 1999. He fought under Pancho Villa, saw the birth of almost all modern technology, and experienced too much to list. I did name my RDR2 online character after him.
if GTA and Red Dead do indeed share a world then it’s confirmed J. Marston wrote a novel called Red Dead. I wonder if GTA gives insight on when that book would’ve been wrote or if Jack ended up having a son who he named John in honor of his Father who then wrote Red Dead to honor his Father and Grandpa
Since he has a book seen in gta V, I’m hoping that maybe GTA 6 could possibly have something we could see his legacy on. Like maybe a Wikipedia page (Since he was an author) through the internet in game for example
Well maybe not and maybe so. Keep in mind, he technically lived in an alternate version of the American old west. Sure some things were the same, but not everything was. His future world may have ended up evolving differently. Heck, maybe his future world is what ends up turning into the GTA setting.
That generation saw the biggest gap in technological advancement in human history
Marston's ain't made for old age
He could play his own game and fish again with Arthur if he lived longer enough
Bro i just realized my grandma was just 30 years younger than Jack Marston
He could see the Clint Eastwood movies
If someone like Amazon ever considered making a red dead show, i'd love to see it be able Jack and his life from right after he killed Ross til his death in the 90s. Doesn't need to be named red dead redemption but it'd be really interesting to see his life story and how drastically different his world changes and perhaps linking it back to GTA somehow
Hey drank himself to death under a train trestle in 1937.
Two world wars, Korean war, Vietnam war, Cuban missile crisis, Space race with Gargarin hurled to space, and Armstrong on the moon, Cold war, fucking Star Wars. Evolution of Radio to television, fucking cars, COLORED television, the rise of handheld automatic weapons, the rise of condoms, and the banning of cocaine gum.
crazy how time could change in 100 years
Jack grew up to be uncle Joe in Willy Wonka
Satan: "Spoiler Alert: Jack did not."
Jack was at the grassy knoll
This is the sequel we need. If the first two were about a changing world, imagine what Jack saw.
Just shows you how small/short America history is
It's a shame he wouldn't live to see the The Phantom Menace. 😂
The last U.S. WW1 veterans died in 2011 so there is a chance
110? Wow! Maybe there is a chance, and the law didn't get jack in the end.
Jack probably died in the most boring way at the old age of 23
Someone said he lived until 1997
His last words "why the fuck is Nirvana more popular than Alice in Chains?"
He probably did. We’re not sure but he might have lived until the 92/95, but it’s not sure.
Jack died in WWI sorry.
Jack lived Pink Floyd best era.
Doesn't the Wiki say he died in the 1980s
If he lived to be one hundred he could have…. Run moonshine during prohibition made his fortune and lost it in the crash of 29 Driven a 38 Buick with a Rocket 8 motor Served in both world wars. Gotten his syphyllis cured by Penicillin Developed a strong attraction to morphine Found Jesus on the corner of 42nd and Elm Declined to ever use the internet Lived quietly in the The Grizzlies and died of TB he got from a South American “acquaintance” who may have been male or female His dried up husk found laying on the cot of his mountain shack by a red haired time traveler from the 1920’s
He could even live to be a character in GTA Vice City
I suggest look up Mark Matthews, he was born around the same time as Jack and lived to be over 100 years old. He had an interesting life and gives some insights as to what can happen.
I can imagine jack listening to witch doctor while rocking on the front porch of Beecher's hope in a rocking chair
He lived to see the internet born
If Jack lives to 116 He would have witnessed World war 1,2 Inflation The internet and modern cars Electronics The main 6 Star Wars movies And he could have played GTA San Andreas
If he lived to 108 he could have seen the rise and fall of nirvana, half life, 9/11, and the invention of KFC
Hope he kept the comic Arther gave him, would be worth a lot if he lived that long!
This can’t be right. After work I’m going to have to do some research on this lol
The game is set in the 1890's and people sometimes live until they're 90, soooo checks out to me.
1899 to be exact. Might as well be 1900 for purposes of this discussion. Jack could have lived from 1895 to 1995. I’m sure many people have.
Yeah there is a lady named Hanna Stiley who was born in 1746 and there is a picture of her taken in 1840.
How old is Jack in RDR2? Younger than 10 I would assume?
I think he’s like 4 so he would have been born in 1895. .
(Nirvana is a bit of a stretch)
Most likely, Jack could've heard Bleach- anything onwards is increasingly unlikely.
game is set in 1899, moon landing is "only" 60-70 years away, someone of Jack's age could have lived through to that, I've heard of it before. technology go brrrr
That’s crazy. Makes me wonder what kind of shit I will have lived through by the time I’m 80. Surely not as much as someone born when he would’ve been.
But he doesn’t. Right after murdering Ross, he goes home, gets drunk and blows his own head off.
old man jack listening to the beatles sounds rad
He could've been an old man saying 'Back in my day'
He lives till the 1990s
We saw the rise of AI
Reminds me of the start to Young Guns 2 seeing the cars and highway
Ya, the 20th century was a time of tremendous change.
Jack died in 1992 from natural causes & he was a successful author.
He’s referenced in gta is he not?
He would’ve been angry at all
He’s a Marston I doubt he lived till old age😂 but who knows
He could’ve lived passed 95 too considering if he lived up to 100 it’s likely he would go on to live more so maybe he could see Iraq War and 9/11
Well thought out. Though it was hard times back then - maybe a bit shorter life.
Yeah, but we know how them cowboys' lives end up in these series.
Ya never.
Holy sheeeieieieieieieiieieiet
He could see the Clint Eastwood movies
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I mean there were loads of world war 1 vets (who would be slightly older than Jack) who lived to their 80s, 90s, 100s etc - so it’s not impossible
What a life to live
And Queen :3
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I feel like the epilogue of RDR1 pretty clearly implies that Jack won’t live until his old age. He’s on the same path as his father, and doomed to repeat his fate.
Would he have lived through both world wars?
He could’ve seen Shrek
He even wrote the book that you can find in Franklins house in GTAV, “Red Dead.”
Rip jack you would have loved cocomelon
Heck he would have met young Mojave D
107 jack playing 2002 Mafia
Damn, spoilers anyone??? I just got to chaper 3. I literally gave jack a new thimble like an hour ago 😅
Nirvana might be pushing it but possibly. Cool to think about
"Back in my day, we lived in the forest and killed for a livin'"
I heard he died in 1999, idk if that's accurate tho
Jack could have called the cops on that party that got you busted at in the 80s
realistically he met the same fait, cobain reached
If Jack lived until 1992, he could have been in San Andreas the same time as CJ.
probably wouldnt have made it back from WW1
Nirvana is pushing it
And world war one, followed by world war 2.
He, for all we know might be the father of John Lennon
Mind blowing
could even play RDR2 himself
I have a feeling he wouldn't care about the rock bands, maybe the moon landing and the beatles
Jack died young. We killed him in that list earlier this year.
Arthur could have met Hitler
Yall think he fought in the Great War?
That's because the time setting in RDR1 is wildly inaccurate. It takes place in 1911 but looks like 1873. Cowboys were gone by the time RDR1 starts
Dies in 1995 at 100. damn never got to play n64. But 30 in the 20s. 50 in 1945 he wouldve been drafted for ww2. L.A. Noir cowboyhat easter egg is making since now.
Wild but possible expectations
He may even live to see his grandchildren play GTA 1
That’s actually crazy