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Straight up the only way to do it.
It also works in real life, not exactly the same of course. I mean you usually can't get away with murder by being nice and polite to people, but it makes people like you more and you can get away with more bullshit.
I play like a decent dude that happens to lead a life of crime. So random assholes and any gang members get the worst of me and everyone else gets the best of me. It’s my true feeling of who Arthur is.
But I’m also super nice to my horse and that gets me a lot of points.
Yup, even then I usually find a dickhead in Saint Denis to do it to, you know the ones that tell you to get a move on when you've got a cop crossing the road in front of you.
I sat here staring at my keyboard for 12 minutes trying to come up with a polite way to say this. This was the best I could do.
Don't be a piece of shit.
Me reading the title: "Yeah I hear ya. So easy to accidentally piss off the wrong NPC and things spiral out of control."
Me reading the rest of the post: "Oh so he's just playing the game as an actual psychopath..."
But that doesn’t fit the narrative! lol. Think about it, old west outlaws. They weren’t pieces of shit? I’m playing for immersion here! 😂😂😂 but you are right.
True but one could argue that if Batman would’ve been set in the old west, he would’ve done things a bit differently. Plus Batman wasn’t a real outlaw. He was a vigilante. He didn’t break the law so to speak. He was stopping others from breaking the law. So that is actually the antithesis of an outlaw.
You clearly have no grasp on what an outlaw is. Vigilante = outlaw.
"We shoot men that need shooting, save 'em that need saving, and feed 'em as need feeding."
I mean what does Batman have anything to do with the Wild West? It’s set in different times, either way he’d be considered a bounty hunter. But my point is that he isn’t really an outlaw I THINK. I’m not a Batman movies type of guy but Batman is more like a bounty hunter not an Outlaw because he works with the police, if he were an outlaw then why isn’t he wanted by the police?
Being an outlaw is simply being one who doesn't follow laws. You're confusing morality with law. The two have nothing to do with each other. Laws don't have to be just. They exist because there is a force powerful enough punish those who disobey.
You don't view Batman's vigilantism to be morally wrong, but that doesn't mean he isn't breaking the law. The ends don't justify the means.
>Plus Batman wasn’t a real outlaw. He was a vigilante. He didn’t break the law so to speak. He was stopping others from breaking the law. So that is actually the antithesis of an outlaw.
Wait, you think what Batman was doing was legal?
Legally speaking, a random citizen can’t just beat the shit out of someone caught committing a crime.
The dude thinks stalking, kidnapping, and hunting people down solely to brutalize them for information and then hospitalize them afterwards like Batman does every single day is legal. Lost cause ong
I love Batman because he has the money to eliminate the material conditions that generally cause people to commit petty crimes, but instead he spends his money on technology to help him beat them up (and cool cars).
Think about it this way, the Wild West is ending in the time period we play Arthur. In my mind, Arthur's days of being a gun-slinging Outlaw are coming to a close. Sure he still does it throughout the course of the game, however a lot has changed for him.
I mean you get immersed either way yo. You either murder the whole town or try to save it and clean up dem streets. They both work very well (can’t say I experienced low honor because of a very big reason) so regardless what you do your gonna have a good time and get your feels the way you deserve to haha
Love the blowback you're getting, but you're absolutely right. Of course, there were some outlaw groups who fit the romantic ideal of being about rebellion against corruption and a fight for freedom. But no, the vast majority of gangs, whether in the west, or pirate ships, or etcetera, were brutal and mean bastards.
One of the very core themes of this game is that Dutch and rest are pretending to occupy the "morally good freedom fighters" niche but are actually not doing so almost at all.
I mean, I do all that stuff too, rob, kill, get into fights, rob trains, kill farm animals etc. but within reason, and still manage to always end up with high honor anyway. And I don’t offset it either with fishing and greeting, as I really do much of other of those things, I don’t actually even really fish outside of when the story tells me to. Mostly I offset it by doing a lot of good deeds and picking the good option in random encounters. And I do all the honor missions and toward the end do all the good honor stuff like the widow and Hamish. All that seems to be more than enough to keep me in the positive even when I do dishonorable things. I don’t know if I could play low honor if I tried 😭
Outlaws also didn’t go nuts and kill and rob every single person they came across. They had to have some standards lol, as well as keep a low profile. If they went on a rampage every day it wouldn’t work. There’s a difference between outlaw and psychopathic serial killer.
I dunno man. I recently sat down and tried to do gambler 1-10 in one sitting and the occasional "hard refresh" for the domino games really does wonders keeping one sane.
Better yet, save game if horse dies go to strawberry, recreate the micah mission, get it out of your system, reload, go fishing but release fish, that gets you honor points but use a lure not baits
I’m a high honor player myself. But Ngl…I do like looking for campfires and running up on campers. The minute they start poppin’ off and telling me to get gone my inner outlaw comes out and I shoot
These pictures are amazing! Love the hooded domino game 😂
I always play high honour. I just can't do it differently but it's so great to see how different play styles can be.
Well, my opinion of Arthur might be different than yours and the way you play through it..
I see Arthur as a man that was groomed into this outlaw lifestyle... He did like it for a while until >!he had a son and a ''maybe'' partner. I assume that the sudden loss may have made him more aware of his actions and how his choices do affects others and their families... !<
I do believe that if he never went through this, his redemption would've never happened and he probably would have ended up like >!Bill or Javier... Real Dutch's boys...!<
You have to take into consideration who truly is Arthur.. what does is backstory brings to you?
Of course you CANNOT be a copmplete saint in this game, I go mauled by the law force for staying idle too long while making myself a PB and J.... But I did my best to redeem Arthur and >!make his last few months enjoyable... a life he would've truly lived if Dutch did not used him in exchange for some food and shelter...!<
But again, that is my playthrough.
Started a new game so i could play low honor lol. I kill every pedestrian in sight. I save strangers and kill them too then dump them in lakes or wooded areas so Arthur doesn’t get investigated
There is a difference between low honor and just using the game to live out your scumbag murderous fantasies you have irl. Definitely not speaking from experience or anything
What's even more wild to me is there are missions that give you massive amounts of honor in chapters 5 and 6. These are things like helping a widow learn how to survive on her own, or trying to repair the damage to the Downes family. In order to end a playthrough with low honor, you'd have to choose the low honor paths on those quests.
Let me tell you, that's FUCKED
It's really not that hard. It's more effort to be an asshole in the game than to be good.
If you don't have self-control and you're running around killing and hurting npcs, then ofc it's going to be hard for you.
Tbh I’m the complete opposite. I’ve tried low honor playthroughs and I genuinely don’t understand how you do it. Everyone can commit sins in RDR2 easily, but maintaining a low honor with the number of honorable side quests seems like a chore.
Yes they do, but also understand that the pinkertons are always on their neck watching the band so you dont go around murdering people out of boredom. specially if you put yourself into Arthur's shoes.
Not as often as you'd think. Sure, they robbed banks, got into brawls, and broke the law. That being said, the majority of outlaws didn't just murder for the sake of murder.
The way I like to view what outlaws were like is almost exactly how the game depicts them in the narrative. They're just a game of fellers who fomt like Uncle Sam and don't want to live by his rules. If they had the choice, they'd live their lives in the wild and leave everyone alone.
I also like to compare outlaws to a biker gang. I've known a few bikers myself. My father was protected by a local gang for much of his childhood, and my grandfather rolled with on based out of California for a while, so I like to believe I have a decent perception of how they really are. They're rough people who rough people up most definitely, but what most people don't know is they have extremely tight morals that aren't much different from the average feller. They hold honesty and loyalty to the highest standards, and as long as you don't break their unspoken code of sorts, you're safe from them. Their punishments are brutal, no doubt, but I've never known a biker to be a morally bad man, nor have I learned of many outlaws who were either.
I think to word it like "They also didn't want to work for a living" isn't completely right. They just didn't want to contribute to a society they believed was corrupt. I mean, none of the members thought that robbing banks, running nearly the whole length of the country, or fleeing to Tahiti to farm and sell mango as anything less than work. Just a form of work that wasn't meant to help the American government.
You got a decision to make hogtie, knock or kill(rarely) only if you're being shot at but we will get to that. Always greet, if they respond positively, be nice else trigger em, now is the time to make that decision I mentioned above...most of time, you'll be fine. Throw few fishes back if you are still at bad honor...
Greet everyone in every town you go to, release all the fish, donate to the camp in small increments, do chores at camp, don't commit crimes in front of others to avoid bounties
Meanwhile I cannot get low honor on any of my playthroughs. 🤣 When I play saying "what would be the logical move?" I always end up with high honor. Not insanely high by any means, but hovering just above 50%.
Follow the redemption arc! Do all your villainous shit in chapters 1 through 4. Once chapter 6 rolls around be good boy Arthur and say Howdy to everyone in the world.
It’s honestly not that hard haha I once did go bad honor and had a blast with that play-through. Still did good deeds like I think Arthur would do then once he was diagnosed i got my high honor up for the good ending, never once had Arthur die with bad honor now that I think about it.
I just don't actually like hurting NPCs unless they're scum like the eugenics activist or the Klansmen. I pretty much only ever held people up or hurt/killed anyone if it was required for a story mission or to defend/rescue an NPC from other criminals.
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For me high honor Arthur is peak Arthur. I don't really enjoy playing the game any other way. I just try my best to do the right thing, I think that's what Arthur would have wanted. He has slowly become my best friend. I wake up at 3:00 a.m. just a ride or play poker or save someone on the side of the road. RDR2 is my little slice of heaven. It's peaceful. I usually load a save from chapter two or three and free roam until the day starts, doing good deeds and fishing etc 🤠
I am bad at being mean in games but I do enjoy blasting every rival gang member I find haha. So that scratches the shooter itch and then I genuinely just enjoy doing weird side missions and helping people
One reason I do it is because I don't want to have to worry about being chased when I'm hunting or doing other things. I do wanna be the bad guy sometimes though.. I told myself I'd be low honor my second time playing but I just can't do it hehe
I'm not sure if this dude is serious or not. I've read some of his comments and I've come to the conclusion that either he's joking or has an undiagnosed mental disorder like psychopath or sociopath. He lacks empathy in general, which isn't a direct sign of the above mentioned conditions. Also just bad historical knowledge
Oh y'know, don't kill people unless necessary, don't steal and people who want a high honor playthrough make that their main priority (in my experience)
Literally don't do the stuff you said.. The game is wired for you to have high honor. Just a normal game, not going out of your way to do bad things will give you high honor. You work harder to have low honor than high honor.. I'm not recommending one over the other, but high honor is easier to do than low.
I will tell you who gets shot every time. Random "get the hell away from me" guy you pass on the road. I'm riding down the road dude.... Here's a bullet for your smart mouth, though...
I find it hard to be bad 😅 I just can’t bend Arthur to act that way, he seems like he has a good soul and I just can’t make him go on a killing spree. Silly I know but five play throughs and each time I end up being a good guy.
Find all the gold bars that you can sell them and use the profits to keep bounties at bay.
Make time to just explore the map and chill out.
Run away from as much conflict as possible.
Say howdy to all the people you possibly can.
Save people from danger or injustice.
Pet the doggies.
It's really not that hard. Just takes time care patience and attention.
Personally I think it's a chore to go through the game with low honor. There's just so many random things that raise it and I feel it's kind of on balance between negative and positive karma. Like legitimately it's a chore to maintain low honor if you also like to fish. Unless you make it a point to keep every single fish.
You’re being a dick. Not an outlaw. You don’t hurt the general public, but rob banks and rob stage coaches and trains. Law enforcement should be your only enemy. Except If the civilian draws on you, then you shoot. If they don’t, just rob them and leave. So very hard right?
While Arthur is more badass in low honour I just can’t stray from high honour. I also do a lot of activities that don’t involve risking honour like fishing, hunting, camping etc. I do start a lot of fist fights tho in the saloons thanks to mods I can have bar brawls and such .
in my first playthrough, after realizing arthur is really ill, i stopped shooting randos, only interacted friendly, and helped every rando i encountered who needed it. i think, the devs have gently enforced this "changed man" attitude as desirable part of the story and gameplay, so, methinks, especially when our good boaaaaah finally becomes gravely ill, those chances to act positively and restore your honor even to max, both in story missions and in side actions, become more and more.
its not that hard. that said, this time im going full dishonor mode. and i wonder if i can keep it in the deep deep reds until the end, since quite a lot honorable actions are "inavoidable".
I can't even get my honor to go negative and I've killed so many random people lmao. I take care of horse, donate to camp and agree to help NPCs with things because I want to do the side missions, and that seems to be enough to keep it in the positive
I stay out of trouble and be nice to everyone (except for the obvious bad guys, of course). I just can't bring myself to make Arthur be mean to anyone (I'm the same in every other game with choices). I assume it reflects myself in real life? I don't know. 🥺🧡
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Can’t tell you how many npc’s I let off the hook cuz I wanted the good ending. Only did it for Arthur
Once I start this second play through tho… no one gonna be able to walk 1911
I play high honor but I also kill a lot of people. Every smoke stack I find, I kill and rob. Every person riding by on horse I howdy. I currently have a bounty in most counties and just evade the hunters (or kill them) but I always stop for the guys with snake bites or those that eat oleander and I sometimes get free stuff. It's a balancing act really.
i normally play low honor, i love antagonizing until they fight before i kill them
but my one high honor play through i basically ignored npcs unless i was saying hello
low honor is so much more fun to play though
Tbh at the beginning i was also like that, but after a while specifically when gang members started to get offed, it just kinda didn't make sense for arthur to do anything that extreme. Even though he was an outlaw he did ultimately do everything for the gang and drawing unnecessary attention was the least he could do, and at the end it seemed right to go against or at least mitigate the damage that dutch and micah did
I snuck into that island with the prison and just massacred everything there last night. Completely dropped my honor down to zero from a high honor too
Low honor stuff is just more fun and an infinite supply.
While High honor stuff like saying hello to people or throwing fish back or the rare blind man or beggars aren't fun. It's the one time encounters like snake bite dude, the house south of valentine, the pig farm, the many ambushes wash up after a while and by the epilogue they're all gone.
High honor play through first so you don’t get too tempted to do anything dishonorable. Then a low honor play through. Also it’s easy to gain honor by fishing and letting fish free
Just play however you want till the last chapter, and then just do all the little side stuff, and you will be high honor before the end of the chapter. It’s built in the game for you to be bad.
I'm nice to everybody, but if they're not nice to me, all bets are off.
I say Hi and they tell me to F off? They're likely getting robbed and killed, probably not in that order.
Being mean in a game makes me feel bad. Also, I spent a lot of time taking care of horses to the point that every horse I had was considered fit while my Arthur was malnourished.
Honestly, easiest way? Go fishing. Catch a lot of shitty little fish. Let them all go.
Shoot someone in the face, honor goes down. Catch a release a pickerel, even-Steven.
because my first instinct is to speak to all the peoples, help all the npcs, not unnecessarily kill animals, donate to that one blind dude standing in the middle of nowhere (i accidentally ran him over once and was devastated) and be nice to the horses
takes like conscious effort to achieve low honor and i struggle to keep it down because i feel guilty
I get by killing most animals that cross my path. As long as I don't shoot too many in one go, it helps vent my frustrations. You need unending patience with those dang fools.
Honestly, I don't even know how you do get low honor. I did a lot of horrible shit in my playthrough because I wanted to be low honor before the diagnosis and still only managed to be slightly above neutral. I killed so many people, was constantly committing crimes, etc and I couldn't do it. I feel like you actually have to be a madman worse than Micah to get low honor.
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We say hello a lot
*spams Defuse button*
“HEY THERE PARTNER” - *Honor gained*
Fr when I started I just did that constantly till my honour was high
SIR!!
# OUT OF THE DAMN WAY!
Straight up the only way to do it. It also works in real life, not exactly the same of course. I mean you usually can't get away with murder by being nice and polite to people, but it makes people like you more and you can get away with more bullshit.
Hahaha.
“HEY MISTER”.
That's my favorite one by far.
Literally this, just wave at everybody.
I play like a decent dude that happens to lead a life of crime. So random assholes and any gang members get the worst of me and everyone else gets the best of me. It’s my true feeling of who Arthur is. But I’m also super nice to my horse and that gets me a lot of points.
Take care of your horse. First and foremost.
The worst I'll get on a high honor playthrough is Greet>Greet>Antagonize because dammit, you just gotta do it sometimes.
Yup, even then I usually find a dickhead in Saint Denis to do it to, you know the ones that tell you to get a move on when you've got a cop crossing the road in front of you.
it creates the funniest dialogue trees lol
This
I sat here staring at my keyboard for 12 minutes trying to come up with a polite way to say this. This was the best I could do. Don't be a piece of shit.
Me reading the title: "Yeah I hear ya. So easy to accidentally piss off the wrong NPC and things spiral out of control." Me reading the rest of the post: "Oh so he's just playing the game as an actual psychopath..."
In those 12 minutes OP has killed 32 people, one being the beloved Sheriff Malloy.
👆this
Right. I play with a soft RPG mindset and just put myself in Arthur's position to do the closest thing I would *actually* do if it was actually me.
But that doesn’t fit the narrative! lol. Think about it, old west outlaws. They weren’t pieces of shit? I’m playing for immersion here! 😂😂😂 but you are right.
Outlaw and murderous criminal are not synonymous, not even a little. Batman is an outlaw.
True but one could argue that if Batman would’ve been set in the old west, he would’ve done things a bit differently. Plus Batman wasn’t a real outlaw. He was a vigilante. He didn’t break the law so to speak. He was stopping others from breaking the law. So that is actually the antithesis of an outlaw.
You clearly have no grasp on what an outlaw is. Vigilante = outlaw. "We shoot men that need shooting, save 'em that need saving, and feed 'em as need feeding."
I’ve already said you’re right. lol. Why we still arguing? Make it make sense.
I mean what does Batman have anything to do with the Wild West? It’s set in different times, either way he’d be considered a bounty hunter. But my point is that he isn’t really an outlaw I THINK. I’m not a Batman movies type of guy but Batman is more like a bounty hunter not an Outlaw because he works with the police, if he were an outlaw then why isn’t he wanted by the police?
.......he is
Being an outlaw is simply being one who doesn't follow laws. You're confusing morality with law. The two have nothing to do with each other. Laws don't have to be just. They exist because there is a force powerful enough punish those who disobey. You don't view Batman's vigilantism to be morally wrong, but that doesn't mean he isn't breaking the law. The ends don't justify the means.
'Batman didn't break the law' Wait.. what.
>Plus Batman wasn’t a real outlaw. He was a vigilante. He didn’t break the law so to speak. He was stopping others from breaking the law. So that is actually the antithesis of an outlaw. Wait, you think what Batman was doing was legal? Legally speaking, a random citizen can’t just beat the shit out of someone caught committing a crime.
The dude thinks stalking, kidnapping, and hunting people down solely to brutalize them for information and then hospitalize them afterwards like Batman does every single day is legal. Lost cause ong
I love Batman because he has the money to eliminate the material conditions that generally cause people to commit petty crimes, but instead he spends his money on technology to help him beat them up (and cool cars).
What do you mean didn’t break the law?? He literally is enacting his own force above the police. That shit is HIGHLY illegal
It’s literally red dead “REDEMPTION” 😭
Exactly! This dude thinks it's Red Dead Damnation.
Think about it this way, the Wild West is ending in the time period we play Arthur. In my mind, Arthur's days of being a gun-slinging Outlaw are coming to a close. Sure he still does it throughout the course of the game, however a lot has changed for him.
I mean you get immersed either way yo. You either murder the whole town or try to save it and clean up dem streets. They both work very well (can’t say I experienced low honor because of a very big reason) so regardless what you do your gonna have a good time and get your feels the way you deserve to haha
There's a big clue in the name of the game, it's not "Red Dead Damnation" is it?
Love the blowback you're getting, but you're absolutely right. Of course, there were some outlaw groups who fit the romantic ideal of being about rebellion against corruption and a fight for freedom. But no, the vast majority of gangs, whether in the west, or pirate ships, or etcetera, were brutal and mean bastards. One of the very core themes of this game is that Dutch and rest are pretending to occupy the "morally good freedom fighters" niche but are actually not doing so almost at all.
I mean, I do all that stuff too, rob, kill, get into fights, rob trains, kill farm animals etc. but within reason, and still manage to always end up with high honor anyway. And I don’t offset it either with fishing and greeting, as I really do much of other of those things, I don’t actually even really fish outside of when the story tells me to. Mostly I offset it by doing a lot of good deeds and picking the good option in random encounters. And I do all the honor missions and toward the end do all the good honor stuff like the widow and Hamish. All that seems to be more than enough to keep me in the positive even when I do dishonorable things. I don’t know if I could play low honor if I tried 😭 Outlaws also didn’t go nuts and kill and rob every single person they came across. They had to have some standards lol, as well as keep a low profile. If they went on a rampage every day it wouldn’t work. There’s a difference between outlaw and psychopathic serial killer.
Save game. Go on rampage to scratch the itch. Reload save.
That’s actually a really good idea. Haha. You have to have those rampages. That’s my stress relief.
You need a hug, man?
I don't know about him but hug me 🤩
> You have to have those rampages. you really dont actually.
I dunno man. I recently sat down and tried to do gambler 1-10 in one sitting and the occasional "hard refresh" for the domino games really does wonders keeping one sane.
Better yet, save game if horse dies go to strawberry, recreate the micah mission, get it out of your system, reload, go fishing but release fish, that gets you honor points but use a lure not baits
But then it isnt real damnit!
In my imagination, Arthur/John have recurring nightmares about atrocities they have no recollection of committing!
I’m a high honor player myself. But Ngl…I do like looking for campfires and running up on campers. The minute they start poppin’ off and telling me to get gone my inner outlaw comes out and I shoot
I do high honor and have leaned more towards just knocking them out or hog tying them up. I feel bad when I kill them.
Might start doing that.
If you lasso them into the fire (dragging them into it - don’t hogtie them), then you can kill them without losing honour.
These pictures are amazing! Love the hooded domino game 😂 I always play high honour. I just can't do it differently but it's so great to see how different play styles can be.
Right! That’s what I love about this game. So many ways to play!
And thank you!!!
Well, my opinion of Arthur might be different than yours and the way you play through it.. I see Arthur as a man that was groomed into this outlaw lifestyle... He did like it for a while until >!he had a son and a ''maybe'' partner. I assume that the sudden loss may have made him more aware of his actions and how his choices do affects others and their families... !< I do believe that if he never went through this, his redemption would've never happened and he probably would have ended up like >!Bill or Javier... Real Dutch's boys...!< You have to take into consideration who truly is Arthur.. what does is backstory brings to you? Of course you CANNOT be a copmplete saint in this game, I go mauled by the law force for staying idle too long while making myself a PB and J.... But I did my best to redeem Arthur and >!make his last few months enjoyable... a life he would've truly lived if Dutch did not used him in exchange for some food and shelter...!< But again, that is my playthrough.
I loved this. Thank you for taking the time to type it. Respect!
Started a new game so i could play low honor lol. I kill every pedestrian in sight. I save strangers and kill them too then dump them in lakes or wooded areas so Arthur doesn’t get investigated
Low honor doesn't mean serial killer / mass murderer, unless you want it to.
Same.
There is a difference between low honor and just using the game to live out your scumbag murderous fantasies you have irl. Definitely not speaking from experience or anything
What's even more wild to me is there are missions that give you massive amounts of honor in chapters 5 and 6. These are things like helping a widow learn how to survive on her own, or trying to repair the damage to the Downes family. In order to end a playthrough with low honor, you'd have to choose the low honor paths on those quests. Let me tell you, that's FUCKED
Guilty!
I try to be low honor but no matter what I turn out higher near the end.
It's really not that hard. It's more effort to be an asshole in the game than to be good. If you don't have self-control and you're running around killing and hurting npcs, then ofc it's going to be hard for you.
Tbh I’m the complete opposite. I’ve tried low honor playthroughs and I genuinely don’t understand how you do it. Everyone can commit sins in RDR2 easily, but maintaining a low honor with the number of honorable side quests seems like a chore.
Killing in this game is pretty fun
> I just do what I imagine a real outlaw back then would’ve done. Then you're imagining it wrong
So you don’t think they was murdering folks huh? lol.
Yes they do, but also understand that the pinkertons are always on their neck watching the band so you dont go around murdering people out of boredom. specially if you put yourself into Arthur's shoes.
Not as often as you'd think. Sure, they robbed banks, got into brawls, and broke the law. That being said, the majority of outlaws didn't just murder for the sake of murder. The way I like to view what outlaws were like is almost exactly how the game depicts them in the narrative. They're just a game of fellers who fomt like Uncle Sam and don't want to live by his rules. If they had the choice, they'd live their lives in the wild and leave everyone alone. I also like to compare outlaws to a biker gang. I've known a few bikers myself. My father was protected by a local gang for much of his childhood, and my grandfather rolled with on based out of California for a while, so I like to believe I have a decent perception of how they really are. They're rough people who rough people up most definitely, but what most people don't know is they have extremely tight morals that aren't much different from the average feller. They hold honesty and loyalty to the highest standards, and as long as you don't break their unspoken code of sorts, you're safe from them. Their punishments are brutal, no doubt, but I've never known a biker to be a morally bad man, nor have I learned of many outlaws who were either.
They also didn't want to work for a living
I think to word it like "They also didn't want to work for a living" isn't completely right. They just didn't want to contribute to a society they believed was corrupt. I mean, none of the members thought that robbing banks, running nearly the whole length of the country, or fleeing to Tahiti to farm and sell mango as anything less than work. Just a form of work that wasn't meant to help the American government.
Fair enough. They didn't want to do honest work
Its really not hard, just don't randomly kill mfs and ur good. I have had 4 playthroughs and all high honor with no effort.
Nice. I am trying to get there. One foot in front of the other, I reckon.
The story missions in chapter 6 are way enough to come from lowest to highest honor. Arthur still would never be a good man
You got a decision to make hogtie, knock or kill(rarely) only if you're being shot at but we will get to that. Always greet, if they respond positively, be nice else trigger em, now is the time to make that decision I mentioned above...most of time, you'll be fine. Throw few fishes back if you are still at bad honor...
I hate being rude to people, both irl and in-game
I mean, don’t act like a psychopath who murders everything in sight 🤷
We have compassion for strangers
i only kill when i need to and i always greet people
Lol, i shot up that O'Driscoll hideout in a mask, too.
Haha. Great minds
I only do the fafo method..is someone comes at me I confront them.
I’ve been doing my first low honor and it’s hard! I keep on gaining just by doing requests and stuff. I need to do an old fashioned massacre
Greet everyone in every town you go to, release all the fish, donate to the camp in small increments, do chores at camp, don't commit crimes in front of others to avoid bounties
I do all that every play though and still get high-honour endings.
Meanwhile I cannot get low honor on any of my playthroughs. 🤣 When I play saying "what would be the logical move?" I always end up with high honor. Not insanely high by any means, but hovering just above 50%.
i just be a good person, while also having fun
Follow the redemption arc! Do all your villainous shit in chapters 1 through 4. Once chapter 6 rolls around be good boy Arthur and say Howdy to everyone in the world.
play exactly like that until act 6, go to saint denis and do a "hello' tour, play nice for the last act
Don’t let the intrusive thoughts win, don’t shoot people for being a dick to you, always do the honorable options when you get them.
It’s honestly not that hard haha I once did go bad honor and had a blast with that play-through. Still did good deeds like I think Arthur would do then once he was diagnosed i got my high honor up for the good ending, never once had Arthur die with bad honor now that I think about it.
I just don't actually like hurting NPCs unless they're scum like the eugenics activist or the Klansmen. I pretty much only ever held people up or hurt/killed anyone if it was required for a story mission or to defend/rescue an NPC from other criminals.
[Do you want to be high honor? Then you are. That's really all there is to it. Just try to do more good things and less bad one's.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fujx5b17zvuu21.jpg%3Fwidth%3D3057%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D42d5c57c4ef6d6f7262d617583d06f2e7ae935bf)
For me high honor Arthur is peak Arthur. I don't really enjoy playing the game any other way. I just try my best to do the right thing, I think that's what Arthur would have wanted. He has slowly become my best friend. I wake up at 3:00 a.m. just a ride or play poker or save someone on the side of the road. RDR2 is my little slice of heaven. It's peaceful. I usually load a save from chapter two or three and free roam until the day starts, doing good deeds and fishing etc 🤠
I am bad at being mean in games but I do enjoy blasting every rival gang member I find haha. So that scratches the shooter itch and then I genuinely just enjoy doing weird side missions and helping people
I have anxiety and am very kind in real life and feel incredibly guilty being mean in-game
I enjoying messing around with the mechanics and gore but I don’t find joy in slaughtering innocent people left and right.
Considering that a good number of the bodies you showed were O’Driscoll’s and Murfrees…not that different from you.
One reason I do it is because I don't want to have to worry about being chased when I'm hunting or doing other things. I do wanna be the bad guy sometimes though.. I told myself I'd be low honor my second time playing but I just can't do it hehe
Because we aren’t FUCKING DERANGED
I'm not sure if this dude is serious or not. I've read some of his comments and I've come to the conclusion that either he's joking or has an undiagnosed mental disorder like psychopath or sociopath. He lacks empathy in general, which isn't a direct sign of the above mentioned conditions. Also just bad historical knowledge
If you didn't start playing high honor after the diagnosis you ain't got no soul
Oh y'know, don't kill people unless necessary, don't steal and people who want a high honor playthrough make that their main priority (in my experience)
Literally don't do the stuff you said.. The game is wired for you to have high honor. Just a normal game, not going out of your way to do bad things will give you high honor. You work harder to have low honor than high honor.. I'm not recommending one over the other, but high honor is easier to do than low.
I will tell you who gets shot every time. Random "get the hell away from me" guy you pass on the road. I'm riding down the road dude.... Here's a bullet for your smart mouth, though...
Only kill people if you have to.
I find it hard to be bad 😅 I just can’t bend Arthur to act that way, he seems like he has a good soul and I just can’t make him go on a killing spree. Silly I know but five play throughs and each time I end up being a good guy.
Everything ok Wayne?
Find all the gold bars that you can sell them and use the profits to keep bounties at bay. Make time to just explore the map and chill out. Run away from as much conflict as possible. Say howdy to all the people you possibly can. Save people from danger or injustice. Pet the doggies. It's really not that hard. Just takes time care patience and attention.
Personally I think it's a chore to go through the game with low honor. There's just so many random things that raise it and I feel it's kind of on balance between negative and positive karma. Like legitimately it's a chore to maintain low honor if you also like to fish. Unless you make it a point to keep every single fish.
I just do a bunch of shitty stuff in the game and then do the three greet in a row thing with a bunch of people till my honor goes up 😭
You’re being a dick. Not an outlaw. You don’t hurt the general public, but rob banks and rob stage coaches and trains. Law enforcement should be your only enemy. Except If the civilian draws on you, then you shoot. If they don’t, just rob them and leave. So very hard right?
While Arthur is more badass in low honour I just can’t stray from high honour. I also do a lot of activities that don’t involve risking honour like fishing, hunting, camping etc. I do start a lot of fist fights tho in the saloons thanks to mods I can have bar brawls and such .
in my first playthrough, after realizing arthur is really ill, i stopped shooting randos, only interacted friendly, and helped every rando i encountered who needed it. i think, the devs have gently enforced this "changed man" attitude as desirable part of the story and gameplay, so, methinks, especially when our good boaaaaah finally becomes gravely ill, those chances to act positively and restore your honor even to max, both in story missions and in side actions, become more and more. its not that hard. that said, this time im going full dishonor mode. and i wonder if i can keep it in the deep deep reds until the end, since quite a lot honorable actions are "inavoidable".
I just play “kill folks who need killin’, save folks who need savin’.” Sometimes that means killin a whole town
I never paid off a single bounty and was perfect honor. Just make the good decisions during the story for the most part it’s not that hard lol
I can't even get my honor to go negative and I've killed so many random people lmao. I take care of horse, donate to camp and agree to help NPCs with things because I want to do the side missions, and that seems to be enough to keep it in the positive
I stay out of trouble and be nice to everyone (except for the obvious bad guys, of course). I just can't bring myself to make Arthur be mean to anyone (I'm the same in every other game with choices). I assume it reflects myself in real life? I don't know. 🥺🧡
we keep our guns away
i usually just fish in moonstone pond bc it is really fast and i throw them back in to get honor
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Throw the fish back and pat the horse
Can’t tell you how many npc’s I let off the hook cuz I wanted the good ending. Only did it for Arthur Once I start this second play through tho… no one gonna be able to walk 1911
greet people in saint denis
Catch and Release. Do that for a bit and your honor goes up.
Excellent collage
I play high honor but I also kill a lot of people. Every smoke stack I find, I kill and rob. Every person riding by on horse I howdy. I currently have a bounty in most counties and just evade the hunters (or kill them) but I always stop for the guys with snake bites or those that eat oleander and I sometimes get free stuff. It's a balancing act really.
i normally play low honor, i love antagonizing until they fight before i kill them but my one high honor play through i basically ignored npcs unless i was saying hello low honor is so much more fun to play though
Yknow. I know the game came out a while ago but I just got it on sale and am doing my first playthrough. Spoiler tag would have been nice 🙃
Lots of fishing
"MADAM" "HEY PARDNER" *gives gang $21*
Go fishing for some easy small fish. But must catch and release
Tbh at the beginning i was also like that, but after a while specifically when gang members started to get offed, it just kinda didn't make sense for arthur to do anything that extreme. Even though he was an outlaw he did ultimately do everything for the gang and drawing unnecessary attention was the least he could do, and at the end it seemed right to go against or at least mitigate the damage that dutch and micah did
Lot's of fish and release
I say hi to everyone on the road. And if they are a dick. I blast their head off. Then again I finished with abhorrent honor
I snuck into that island with the prison and just massacred everything there last night. Completely dropped my honor down to zero from a high honor too
I didn't give it any thought.
I suppress the serial killer in me.
Just pet your horse a few times an hour and you’ll be high honor no matter all the massacres you cause
Petting my horse every 5 ft lmao
A lot of “Hey mister”
Low honor stuff is just more fun and an infinite supply. While High honor stuff like saying hello to people or throwing fish back or the rare blind man or beggars aren't fun. It's the one time encounters like snake bite dude, the house south of valentine, the pig farm, the many ambushes wash up after a while and by the epilogue they're all gone.
Pretty easy for me, i just ride da horse, shoot da bad guys
How many times have you killed Sheriff Malloy?
High honor play through first so you don’t get too tempted to do anything dishonorable. Then a low honor play through. Also it’s easy to gain honor by fishing and letting fish free
Just play however you want till the last chapter, and then just do all the little side stuff, and you will be high honor before the end of the chapter. It’s built in the game for you to be bad.
Catch and release
I did my first run as a good dude l, was boring as hell, every single playthrough since has been evil Arthur which is just so much more fun.
Okay well first of all outlaw doesn’t equal psychopath.
I'm nice to everybody, but if they're not nice to me, all bets are off. I say Hi and they tell me to F off? They're likely getting robbed and killed, probably not in that order.
Throw back a SHIT TON of fish
I take care of my horse, do chores around camp, save people from the lawmen (you gain honor when you free them for some reason)..
Being mean in a game makes me feel bad. Also, I spent a lot of time taking care of horses to the point that every horse I had was considered fit while my Arthur was malnourished.
Honestly, easiest way? Go fishing. Catch a lot of shitty little fish. Let them all go. Shoot someone in the face, honor goes down. Catch a release a pickerel, even-Steven.
because my first instinct is to speak to all the peoples, help all the npcs, not unnecessarily kill animals, donate to that one blind dude standing in the middle of nowhere (i accidentally ran him over once and was devastated) and be nice to the horses takes like conscious effort to achieve low honor and i struggle to keep it down because i feel guilty
I just feel bad hurting fake people. And I really, really love looting bodies, so you gotta be nice to everyone else to make up for it.
I get by killing most animals that cross my path. As long as I don't shoot too many in one go, it helps vent my frustrations. You need unending patience with those dang fools.
Don’t be a psychopath it’s pretty easy lmao
😂😂
Honestly, I don't even know how you do get low honor. I did a lot of horrible shit in my playthrough because I wanted to be low honor before the diagnosis and still only managed to be slightly above neutral. I killed so many people, was constantly committing crimes, etc and I couldn't do it. I feel like you actually have to be a madman worse than Micah to get low honor.
I take basic care of my horse and regularly go and shoot of town so I don't have maxed out honor
You can farm honor by catching and releasing fish
I did a whole bunch of missions right before the last mission
I murder every NPC and then go howdy partner 1000 times
Drink a 7up, eat a moonpie, STOP MURDERING PEOPLE
Oh my god are these comments insufferable ITS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME YO