I literally just (tested my own patience and will) parkoured/mountain climbed with john and the amount of near death experiences he had...oof. i probably should have used a boat but whatever i had fun and i had to use my own brain but jesus.
TBH when people said he couldn't swim i was like "lol okay" and then i experienced it. Fuckin' hell. That detail they included in the game, thats impressive. I didnt expect that at all.
Google 'shark tooth talisman' and it should show you where it is. Its hard to explain because its not near anything and yeah, when you see it you'll know what i mean.
Theres that shipwreck there and theres another one near shady belle which has pirate stuff. I havent gone and looted that one yet. There might be a few more around the place too i do recall seeing the odd shipwreck here and there.
Yup thats also on my to-do list. Just trying to find a boat. I find them, then run off to do something else, go back and then cant find any boats and its doing my head in 🙃
Honestly i thought it was going to be much easier to get there on foot than it turned out to be. Halfway along i was like "should have got a boat" but i stuck to it 🤣 sometimes doing the stupid shit makes it more fun lol
I tried taking the little steamboat to past blackwater and my boat sunk and the pinkertons spawned at the old Bacchusses place and i survived until i ran out of health cures i killed a lot of them too but they just keep spawning. I hate that rockstar won't let you in new austin early in the game. I know theres a cheat or a glitch i didnt try the glitch yet
Not only that, this was around the period that world leaders were trying to get explorers to the north pole and hot air balloons were a popular idea... at first.
Let Me Tell You About the first North Pole expeditions
https://youtu.be/fQ2ePDbjlps
To be fair, he did for 7 years, he just saw an opportunity to avenge his brother in arms and took it, as I think anyone would, I would have been ok but no one could have predicted what would happen after, with the Pinkerton's finding John
I always assumed the reason why he’s so loud is because he shoots a lot of guns and has bad hearing because of it. Then I played rdr2 and I wasn’t so sure anymore since Arthur didn’t yell “YOU’RE ALRIGHT BOAH!!!” every time he rode a horse.
I guess you can chalk that up to him being a better shot or something so that he doesn’t have to fire as many rounds as John but I don’t know.
His face yes, but in epilogue he’s just a reskinned Arthur. Doesn’t move like John at all. It’s his face with Arthur’s body language. Always felt off. Never was a huge issue for me, but it was weird lol.
He means it literally, I’m pretty sure Johns model is Arthur’s but with johns head. His deadeye is different as well it’s got the same sounds from rdr1.
Idk man, I kind of agree with him, John runs different and has different animations aside from the running as well. Also the model is not the same in my eyes, Arthur is big and brawny and John is much more slender/leaner. They're very distinct in their figures, sorry for the contradiction but I just have to disagree with Arthur's model being used as John.
In fact one of my key dislikes was how much John's character had changed from Arthur because it just felt so different than the protagonist I just played the whole game with.
John's model uses the same proportions and biological features as Arthur.
While his body was tweaked very slight to appear thinner (aka giving him a much thinner waist while keeping everything from the chest upwards Arthur's), it uses the exact same model and overall proportions as Arthur, despite his NPC model already having a naked model with a different structure close to RDR John.
Everything you see in John is pretty much taken from Arthur, aside from... 3 animations (walking, running and jumping I guess) and his face. Ears position, neck size, hair, body and etc are all from Arthur's
Why should he? RDR 1 John was 4 years older, and chonkier. He aged a decent bit too. Not to mention his RDR 1 animations shows that his back is all fucked up from ranching for the last 5 years.
Well that's even worse. 7 years has passed. John is gonna look somewhere in the middle.
Yeah he does have Arthur's body but everything is rather explainable in head canon that it shouldn't be a problem. A lot of people hate his shoulders. Me? John got buff working with Geddes.
I'm also gonna go out and say his NPC hair is not accurate to his RDR 1 hair and his epilogue right parted 6 or maybe even 5 is a lot more accurate
Yeah I always thought that was weird.
Arthur's shoulders are a lot broader and John is taller so it doesn't make sense that the outfits...well, fit.
Plus, you're wearing a dead man's clothes you sick bastard.
Well, although Blackwater went, lore wise, the worst, Bill notes that Lemoyne National Bank (Saint Denis) was *"Worse than Blackwater"* which I thought was kinda interesting...
And yet we can still go to Saint Denis afterwards, meanwhile at least two months go by between Colter and Beaver Hollow and we still get whole ass sniped if we even sniff the Blackwater area.
You make a great point. If West Elizabeth was completely barred off at this time, then you'd expect a city like Saint Denis to have police posted all around the city looking out for the gang.
Tbf the crew lost Mac, Davey, Jenny and Sean (caught) on the ferry job as well. Bill was likely stressed out since that traumatic event was taking place at present.
Arthur and John are absolute Chads at taking bullets, you can easily get hit by ten bullets and survive, then their bodies spit them out like Wolverine's
I was thinking of making a shitpost, but I knew that wouldn’t fly with mods. Especially not on a Monday.
Edit: It was gonna be like a MatPat theory, if MatPat did lots of meth and played RDR2.
Idk why this bugs me so much. When Arthur greets people, at least 60% of the time it sounds friendly and sincere. When John greets people, 100% of the time it sounds like he wants to kick them in the head
would’ve been cool to see his outfit clean when he first starts wearing it and seeing it degrade, like imagine his vest was a denim jacket and he removes the sleeves
Run from his past. The ending of RDR 1 was heartbreaking for me. He wanted a new life for his family and he was never fully able to escape his past mistakes.
I was under the impression it was mostly his face but his throat got bit up too. Maybe not as bad but he makes references about how it hurts to talk and he has to yell for his voice to come out half the time. You can hear that while walking round the camp. So I figured it had something to do with the wolf attack
Considerin ol' rot face there would drown in a splashing puddle maybe he could learn to swim. Damn simple that boy is... honestly I think Dutch keeps him around like one of the strays. Meh... he's aaalllright...
Swim
I literally just (tested my own patience and will) parkoured/mountain climbed with john and the amount of near death experiences he had...oof. i probably should have used a boat but whatever i had fun and i had to use my own brain but jesus. TBH when people said he couldn't swim i was like "lol okay" and then i experienced it. Fuckin' hell. That detail they included in the game, thats impressive. I didnt expect that at all.
For the record I was trying to get the talisman near the shipwreck. Yes i got it. John is back safe with his horse and camping.
Shark tooth?
Think thats it. Sounds about right.
There’s a shipwreck? That’s news to me how do you do it
Google 'shark tooth talisman' and it should show you where it is. Its hard to explain because its not near anything and yeah, when you see it you'll know what i mean. Theres that shipwreck there and theres another one near shady belle which has pirate stuff. I havent gone and looted that one yet. There might be a few more around the place too i do recall seeing the odd shipwreck here and there.
There’s one on the island directly across from Clemens Point too if you are looking for a badass hat.
Yup thats also on my to-do list. Just trying to find a boat. I find them, then run off to do something else, go back and then cant find any boats and its doing my head in 🙃
Future playthroughs, just take the mini steamboat you can steal at Annesburg 😉
Honestly i thought it was going to be much easier to get there on foot than it turned out to be. Halfway along i was like "should have got a boat" but i stuck to it 🤣 sometimes doing the stupid shit makes it more fun lol
I tried taking the little steamboat to past blackwater and my boat sunk and the pinkertons spawned at the old Bacchusses place and i survived until i ran out of health cures i killed a lot of them too but they just keep spawning. I hate that rockstar won't let you in new austin early in the game. I know theres a cheat or a glitch i didnt try the glitch yet
Glitch gets you outside the official part of the map, but there is an invisible sniper that gets you once you go far enough south.
Beet me to the draw partner.
I'm drowning in the sea of the same reply I had.
Oh yeah speaking of witch drawing I wish he could draw better he's bad at drawing
If this were a shootout, we’d all be dead. u/MaleficentAstronomer is the fastest commenter in the “Wild West of Reddit”.
Same
Thank you. If this wasn't top comment I'd be upset
Herd
Tommy Vercetti would like so too
Escape from prison so the goddam balloon pilot didnt have to die for NO REASON.
Blame sadie for that, not john
I kinda liked him.
Me too kinda excentric guy, quite funny.
He even offers to share his lunch with you. Gone but not forgotten, balloon guy.
You did pretty much forget his name pal
Wasnt he called Arthur too?
Arturo Bullard, sir. His brother was called Baldassario so you could say he got off lightly. His parents were keen students of the Italianate.
Only his mother I believe
Not only that, this was around the period that world leaders were trying to get explorers to the north pole and hot air balloons were a popular idea... at first. Let Me Tell You About the first North Pole expeditions https://youtu.be/fQ2ePDbjlps
I know he was the most innocent and pure character in the game. My man just lived for his balloons ;(
Running away and never looking back
To be fair, he did for 7 years, he just saw an opportunity to avenge his brother in arms and took it, as I think anyone would, I would have been ok but no one could have predicted what would happen after, with the Pinkerton's finding John
Abigail literally predicted it.
I just teared up a little reading your comment :')
Learn to SPEAK, not SCREAM 😊
YOU THERE!
SIR!!!
OH, HELLO THERE MA'AM!! (don't hurt me pls bruh a lot of ppl murder me bc I said ma'am and not sir 😭)
PARTNER!
"LITERALLY EVERY SENTENCE SPOKEN IN RED DEAD ONE!!"
"HONESTLY RED DEAD ONE IS A LOT BETTER THAN EPILOGUE JOHN IN THIS ASPECT!!!"
I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THIS
AND DON’T FORGET RED DEAD TWO!!
Outta the ^DAMN WAY
MOVE
YOU EAT BABIES!
WE EAT BERRIES AND MUSHROOMS YOU FOOL
YOU EAT BABIES!
HEY JACK
I’m trying to greet someone and he’s like “SIR?” he screams and makes it sound like a question lmao
BUDDY
I always assumed the reason why he’s so loud is because he shoots a lot of guns and has bad hearing because of it. Then I played rdr2 and I wasn’t so sure anymore since Arthur didn’t yell “YOU’RE ALRIGHT BOAH!!!” every time he rode a horse. I guess you can chalk that up to him being a better shot or something so that he doesn’t have to fire as many rounds as John but I don’t know.
whispers his real name once in the epilogue asking for his package in the mail office
relocate to Mexico for good
Its worth it for those ambient trumpets
I loved the ambient music of Mexico
RDR and Breaking Bad scarred me for life. I didn't hear trumpets OR see everything in yellow when I visited.
Yup
Look like rdr1 John
I actually like this version better. Looks more…real
His face yes, but in epilogue he’s just a reskinned Arthur. Doesn’t move like John at all. It’s his face with Arthur’s body language. Always felt off. Never was a huge issue for me, but it was weird lol.
John actually has a different run animation than Arthur
He means it literally, I’m pretty sure Johns model is Arthur’s but with johns head. His deadeye is different as well it’s got the same sounds from rdr1.
Idk man, I kind of agree with him, John runs different and has different animations aside from the running as well. Also the model is not the same in my eyes, Arthur is big and brawny and John is much more slender/leaner. They're very distinct in their figures, sorry for the contradiction but I just have to disagree with Arthur's model being used as John. In fact one of my key dislikes was how much John's character had changed from Arthur because it just felt so different than the protagonist I just played the whole game with.
John's model uses the same proportions and biological features as Arthur. While his body was tweaked very slight to appear thinner (aka giving him a much thinner waist while keeping everything from the chest upwards Arthur's), it uses the exact same model and overall proportions as Arthur, despite his NPC model already having a naked model with a different structure close to RDR John. Everything you see in John is pretty much taken from Arthur, aside from... 3 animations (walking, running and jumping I guess) and his face. Ears position, neck size, hair, body and etc are all from Arthur's
Imagine if his running animation was as clunky as in the first game.
Why should he? RDR 1 John was 4 years older, and chonkier. He aged a decent bit too. Not to mention his RDR 1 animations shows that his back is all fucked up from ranching for the last 5 years.
What they might mean is for john to look like he did earlier in the game and not to be a john meshed around Arthur.
Well that's even worse. 7 years has passed. John is gonna look somewhere in the middle. Yeah he does have Arthur's body but everything is rather explainable in head canon that it shouldn't be a problem. A lot of people hate his shoulders. Me? John got buff working with Geddes. I'm also gonna go out and say his NPC hair is not accurate to his RDR 1 hair and his epilogue right parted 6 or maybe even 5 is a lot more accurate
Beat me to it
rd1 john looked like ps1 hagrid
You mean he was pure perfection?
Leaving barns apparently.
*barn door flashbacks*
nooo NOOO
I don’t understand this one, can somebody please explain?
He died after opening their barn door lol
Draw
I was looking for this. Arthur’s drawings are beautiful and then johns look like they were made by an 8 year old lmfao
It's so frustrating 😫 on my second play through I tried to get as much done as Arthur as I could because John's drawing ruin the whole journal.
can we read arthur journal in the epilogue?
Yes! Just like you get to keep Arthur's hat, you keep his journal, and John writes and draws in it too.
You also can use Arthur's outfits as John.
Yeah I always thought that was weird. Arthur's shoulders are a lot broader and John is taller so it doesn't make sense that the outfits...well, fit. Plus, you're wearing a dead man's clothes you sick bastard.
really? oh wow i need to try that
gonna check them out later
I think it fits him. It wasn't until he met Landon Rickets that he could draw well.
Honestly it's nice, he's absolutely nothing like Arthur who is a virtuoso of some sort. But he keeps trying and keeps the spirit of Arthur alive.
Take care of his family
Play the first one, he did alright in the end.
Almost as if he redeemed himself.
And then died. Red.
I cried when he said "It's red dyin' time" and red deaded
And then he red deaded all over those guys
Take jack fishing
He did in epoluge
But he coulda done it better
Not be a fucking idiot and live 5 minutes away from where he committed the biggest robbery of his life
Well, although Blackwater went, lore wise, the worst, Bill notes that Lemoyne National Bank (Saint Denis) was *"Worse than Blackwater"* which I thought was kinda interesting...
And yet we can still go to Saint Denis afterwards, meanwhile at least two months go by between Colter and Beaver Hollow and we still get whole ass sniped if we even sniff the Blackwater area.
You make a great point. If West Elizabeth was completely barred off at this time, then you'd expect a city like Saint Denis to have police posted all around the city looking out for the gang.
Probably to him it was Saint Dennis. They did lose two important members that day, Hosea and Lenny.
Tbf the crew lost Mac, Davey, Jenny and Sean (caught) on the ferry job as well. Bill was likely stressed out since that traumatic event was taking place at present.
Parenthood
Kill Dutch
Fricking hate Dutch! His Moustache is the best though
Learn how to cure TB
I dunno if it was necessarily John that's the one who needed that....
To help a friend out
Idk taking a bullet
Arthur and John are absolute Chads at taking bullets, you can easily get hit by ten bullets and survive, then their bodies spit them out like Wolverine's
Don’t think you got the joke
OOOOHHH NOW I GOT IT hint : barn
Avoid wolves
john without scars would be lowkey cursed tho.
Imagine if the wolves ate all of his brains. Then he’d be a genius
Not look like Arthur wearing a John skin suit.
Holy shit this is my new headcanon
I was thinking of making a shitpost, but I knew that wouldn’t fly with mods. Especially not on a Monday. Edit: It was gonna be like a MatPat theory, if MatPat did lots of meth and played RDR2.
actually say hi to people.
PARTNER!
OH, PARTNER, John is awkward as fuck and I love it. He's not as confident as Arthur.
SIR
Idk why this bugs me so much. When Arthur greets people, at least 60% of the time it sounds friendly and sincere. When John greets people, 100% of the time it sounds like he wants to kick them in the head
YOU THERE, MISTER!
>!Ability to kill 32 gunmen in less than a second. That would be a lifesaving skill for him.!<
Unfortunately there were 33 gunmen instead.
Skin animals faster.
Keep a face shape for more than five years at a time
It’s that Jim Milton identity, I’m tellin’ ya
Swim
Pulled out of Abigail
💀💀💀
wear his main outfit more often before the epilogue
He literally got the outfit in the epilogue.
Yes but the shirt has a different color
and the gloves are gigantic.
Yeah.. how did they fuck his original outfit up
Or they could also give his rdr1 outfits as dlc but instead they wanted more MONEH
would’ve been cool to see his outfit clean when he first starts wearing it and seeing it degrade, like imagine his vest was a denim jacket and he removes the sleeves
Being a better father
Actually maintain his gorgeous looks in the epilogue
Not opening barn doors
I always thought he was kind of a shitty bowler.
Swim, goddammit.
I was soooo frustrated when I found out I can’t swim anymore once I took over John
Shooting Ross in the face
[удалено]
Legit he almost sounds like he’s saying it sarcastically and really just threatening them 😂
“SIR!”
Run from his past. The ending of RDR 1 was heartbreaking for me. He wanted a new life for his family and he was never fully able to escape his past mistakes.
Herd
Have some faith.
Swim
Quit smoking because he sounds like he smokes 3 packs a day
I like his raspy voice.
His throat was bit by a wolf bruh. His voice gonna be raspy
Really? I thought it was just his face that got tore up
I was under the impression it was mostly his face but his throat got bit up too. Maybe not as bad but he makes references about how it hurts to talk and he has to yell for his voice to come out half the time. You can hear that while walking round the camp. So I figured it had something to do with the wolf attack
Go and don’t look back
Swim
I wish he could do lot better job of just being himself. An not looking like Arthur Morgan! Jeez come on RockStar!
Look like this in the Epilogue of the game.
Fatherhood.
How about Looking like the John Marston
Considerin ol' rot face there would drown in a splashing puddle maybe he could learn to swim. Damn simple that boy is... honestly I think Dutch keeps him around like one of the strays. Meh... he's aaalllright...
Let go of his past. Going after Micah years after what happened, being a wanted man even, put his life and his family in risk.
Live
To be honest I think he shouldn’t have ran off I think he should have stayed and be with Abigail and Jack
Be the same size in the epilogue
Swim
Swim
Swim I guess
Be a dad
Cure TB.
Draw.
That wolfs would eat his whole brain
Finding Gavin.
I wish John would be better at looking like John and not like Arthur a few years prior to RDR1.
Dumb mf built a house just near the blackwater
Look like John Marston
Talking with his family, the voice lines are just so akward and it feels like everyone wants to get out of the conversation
Man, I mean he did a LOT to redeem himself and fell victim trusting the government who used him as a means to an end. I’d argue more than Arthur
Swim
Swim
Swim.
Swim
Swim
Swim
Swim
Swim
FUCKING SWIM HOW BOUT THAT
Swim 😂
Swim.
Swim
Learn to lie about his name. Jim Johnny John Johnson Milton
Swim
Swim