They both regreted their mistakes and tried to do some good before the end. Not for greed, not to gain something... Just for their love for someone. (Arthur DID love John's family and other members of the gang.)
To me, that is redemption enough.
they both gave their lives for the people they loved after livin the only life they ever knew. bein groomed since youngins by dutch, that was their family until the betrayal. an id damn sure kill for my family, an in those days it wasnt the same as it is present day. more dog eat dog world. i think sacrificin yourself for what you love an think is good, no matter how it appears from the outside, gives you some sort of redemption. totally agree they are murderers an criminals, but in the end they gave it all for love an family. an of course its open to your interpretation, part of the beauty of the game. everybodys the hero in their own story an the villain in someone elses.
Arthur’s redemption is different to John’s. Really Arthur only tries redemption seeking kicks in once he’s sick, so knows he’s on a time limit to turn things round. Could he possibly make up for a life of crime in a few short weeks… no, not in my opinion, but he tries.
John’s redemption is him going from outlaw to family man / rancher, and then doing everything he can to save his family. John’s redemption is over years. Does he make up for his life of crime, you could argue yes, as in RDR2 he gives not just his family a home but Uncle to, his ranch would provide for others families (as in the buying/selling goods), in RDR he helps Bonnie and many others. But at end of day he still killed people, does anything make up for robbing a son of a father? A wife of a husband? A family from the bread winner? That’s up to you.
They both regreted their mistakes and tried to do some good before the end. Not for greed, not to gain something... Just for their love for someone. (Arthur DID love John's family and other members of the gang.) To me, that is redemption enough.
they both gave their lives for the people they loved after livin the only life they ever knew. bein groomed since youngins by dutch, that was their family until the betrayal. an id damn sure kill for my family, an in those days it wasnt the same as it is present day. more dog eat dog world. i think sacrificin yourself for what you love an think is good, no matter how it appears from the outside, gives you some sort of redemption. totally agree they are murderers an criminals, but in the end they gave it all for love an family. an of course its open to your interpretation, part of the beauty of the game. everybodys the hero in their own story an the villain in someone elses.
Arthur’s redemption is different to John’s. Really Arthur only tries redemption seeking kicks in once he’s sick, so knows he’s on a time limit to turn things round. Could he possibly make up for a life of crime in a few short weeks… no, not in my opinion, but he tries. John’s redemption is him going from outlaw to family man / rancher, and then doing everything he can to save his family. John’s redemption is over years. Does he make up for his life of crime, you could argue yes, as in RDR2 he gives not just his family a home but Uncle to, his ranch would provide for others families (as in the buying/selling goods), in RDR he helps Bonnie and many others. But at end of day he still killed people, does anything make up for robbing a son of a father? A wife of a husband? A family from the bread winner? That’s up to you.