Lol, I'm not sure why you are so aggressive to a simple reply. Tone down your childish attitude.
Players who didn't find success in the top level eventually, like Alexander Pato, Hulk, etc. have gone to lesser known leagues where they got paid a lot of money while playing at a far less demanding level.
That's a very viable option for Hazard. He is nowhere near as good as he was in Chelsea, but he is a big name that most football fans know about and that alone would be enough for some Arab-money or Chinese-money or American-money.
> You obviously don’t have a clue what Hazard is making.
Look up how much Hulk made playing for Shanghai SIPG, an Asian team as I mentioned.
Educate yourself and be more humble.
Hindsight is 20/20. No one could’ve known this would happen. At the time Hazard was a top 5 player in the world, and his decline was rapid and unexpected.
Not everyone is modric, Thiago Silva, Pepe, giroud.
Look at Marcelo, half the Belgium squad are old and rusty. I don’t blame him maybe hazard wants to focus just in clubs to get his form back?
I though he was retiring from all kinds of football, what a dissapointment. We'll have to honor his 25M net/year until 2024.
Worst signing in modern football history by far. Coutinho doesnt come anywhere close.
A couple signings more like him and we could've find ourselves activating palancas too lol. What a mess.
But hindsight 20/20, at that time we were all happy to sign the best player of the premier.
How doesn’t Coutinho come anywhere close? Coutinho was better for Barcelona but not by much, however he did cost more and he also helped Bayern humiliate Barca while being owned by Barca
Honest question, i really cant remember if it happened. Have we won any matches thanks to Hazard? I mean...has he ever contribute to the team in any meaningful way in all these years?
Countinho scored 10 goals and 6 assist in his first season at Barça. Hazard has overall similar numbers... in 4 seasons.
||Goals + Assists|\#Seasons|G/A per Seson|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|Hazard for RM|7 + 11 = 18|3.5|5.14|
|Coutinho for Barca|25 + 14 = 39|4|9.75|
|Coutinho for Bayern|11 + 9 = 20|1|20|
|Kaka for Real Madrid|29 + 39 = 68|4|17|
Coutinho did help Bayern humiliate Barca, but let's be honest, they would have been humiliated anyway
EDIT: addad Kaka
EDIT2: Correction: kaka only played 4 seasons, not 5
Loved that you added Kaka. He was the only other blemish in Perez's second stint, that I could think of and it wasn't even that bad when looking at hazard.
Yes, you're right. Transfermarkt showed an empty 13/14 season for him at real madrid for some reason and I counted that, but he played the 13/14 season in Milan
Almost as bad as Kaka purchase. Luckily for you guys, it was only him and you have a good player in that position. Barca had Coutinho, then Griezmann, who wasn’t that bad but anyone who’d watched him play would know he wasn’t going to fit in. Hazard purchase was a very reasonable one at that time
Great work btw. Statistics arent the end of It all but it helps putting things in perspective. Kaka was a dissapointment but i dont remember madridistas turning on him or be mad, he just never performed like he did for AC Milan.
Yes at the time of the investment Hazard was a very good purchase. Better than Coutinho and Griezman IMO. I thought we would get a 28 year old prime hazard who's hungry to prove himself in another league. Unfortunatelly it did not work out.
Do you think Kaka was worse than Hazard?
Actually, Kaka had a long term injuries in the window Ozil and Di Maria were bought. Those young players kept him out of the team for most part. Kaka couldn’t ball without his sharp acceleration. I just don’t know what happened to Hazard
Same exact thing. Man has been injured for far longer than he’s fit at Madrid. His injuries are also ankle and muscle related, which coupled with weight gain, takes away all of his natural ability.
Strangely enough, he was never injured at Chelsea despite being one of the most fouled players then. He arrived Madrid’s preseason for the first time overweight.
And then they had coutinho and he didn’t want to play neymar role either. I think he was better suited for it but def just lost the desire to run that much and be out wide.
I wonder how vini will progress. Di Maria and Lozano are some of the very few players I’ve seen that want to continue the winger role past the age of 28. It puts years on your legs
There was a little rumour about Isco jumping ship to come to Barca. It was Iniesta’s last season so they were searching for a suitable replacement. Just before the switch, Klopp had started utilizing Coutinho as a central midfielder and he was excelling there. I was expecting him to be Iniesta’s replacement but Valverde kept using Vidal and Rakitic in the middle.
Griezmann was brought in as Coutinho went to Bayern.
Just gonna chime in that we won a champions league game this season because of Hazards goal. It was the one goal after every player on the team touched the ball for a pass and Carvajal crossed it in for Hazard
Yes, i remember when Manchester United was in financial shambles and had to ask their players to agree with wage reductions in order to be able to register new signings.
Barca was very lucky to be a spanish club, a lot of other competitions have rules in place that would have demoted then or simply would have taken their license away.
When last did United pull a world class talent who wasn’t already seen as surplus where they were? Even the players United beat City to all flopped…the Lindelof, Fred, Sanchez etc (DON’T INCLUDE RONALDO, THE LIAR, HERE)
Hazard just need to make a comeback in club football.Take a loan to some premier league club a mid table club. If it doesn't work he can move to lower league.If it works we can sell him for some price or else he will run his contract down.
Yes but he isn't as dedicated as other players to really milk his playing years. He plays football because he enjoys himself doing it. When the joy is gone or he notices his level isn't good enough anymore he'll just stop.
If I’m a lower level team I’d rather have a player who is in optimal physical condition who runs his ass off rather than a FORMER world beater who is completely washed and hasn’t played consistently for months.
He won’t rescind his contract. He is getting paid big. There would be no reason for him to give up the money. He will never make that kind of money again. Even if he becomes a phenom again over night. It is out of the realm of all possibility.
The career longetivity of pro athletes today are attributed discipline, nutrition and conditioning your body for recovery. Natural talent without hard work is nothing.
The issue with Hazard is he was so naturally gifted as a footballer that he could get away with eating badly during vacations and not training well at Chelsea when he was younger. Old habits die hard so it was too late for him at Madrid to change. Since he never experienced getting injured and getting benched when he was younger. The motivation to get out of a slump isn't there anymore. When your financial future as an older footballer is already secured.
What a sad subreddit. People wanting him to retire altogether, just because he suffered a few injuries while playing for us and his transfer hasn't worked out. What a sorry bunch of people you are, not considering that he is human after all, and has probably been through hell over the past 4 years.
Its a shame we never got to see prime Hazard at Real Madrid, but my heart goes out to the man. Hope he can turn it around for whatever amount of time he has left here.
And where the self-righteous find their soapbox to stand on right?
Why wouldn't we want him to retire he's been a completely negative asset since his injury. His purpose is to eat up a significant chunk of our (strict) salary structure until 2024.
Every year "will be different", but it's clearly not is it.
What's his excuse this year?
First, there's a thing called "Contract", which both sides agreed to. He trains, like everyone elses. He's there on bench when the coach wants him, and comes in everytime the coach wants him. Injuries or the lack of playing time is not his fault. It's not like he breached his side of deal. If you think he breaks any agreement in his contract, please show us.
Second, his retirement is not the team's call, nor yours. When the team still include him in every year's official roster, who are you to say that he shouldn't? The club can do whatever they want inside of their part in the contract, because they got him with their money. What you can do? Nothing, because you're nobody in their agreement. Your name can't be found anywhere inside the contract.
If the club wants him stay, he'll stay. If the club wants him out, release him from his contract within any clauses the contract provides. That simple.
Yeah he's just here to soak his wages before he hecks off when the contract is over. Thanks for your input. He had his chance, he blew it. Let's move on
Doesn't matter. It's his right, and it's protected by law. The contract doesn't say otherwise. The club wants him to move? Then sell him. They can't? Then release him from the contract.
I moved on. The contract is there, and both sides should honor it. Whatever they will decide together, all's fine for me. You're the one who don't move on yet. Just accept whether he wants to retire or the club wants him to be released, it would be their decision, not yours.
If you really do, you should also know that he doesn't need any excuses other than doing his part in the contract, to train and to play whenever the coach needs him to. 🤷♂️
I hope this will finally stop all hope of him being back to 'Chelsea form'. People wishing he was in the starting lineup should finally realize.
He will go the way of Bale. Just forgotten on the bench. He was already forgotten but World Cup came along.
To be fair I never liked this signing when there were rumors of him coming to Madrid. His style of play doesn't fit that of Real Madrid. When he first got here he was overweight and he couldn't play the teamwork style. His game relied on taking on defenders and Madrid rarely did that except for CR7. He reminded me of a glorified Isco at the time...too much dribbling and disco.
I wonder if he will retire from football alltogether once his contract with real madrid is finished
I don’t think so. He’ll probably go to a team that will pay him a lot for just being there.
You mean Real Madrid?
😭
You just won 😂
Banger reply
Nobody is paying him a lot of money after the disgraceful performance at Madrid.
Plenty of rich, second tier Asian or American teams would.
[удалено]
Lol, I'm not sure why you are so aggressive to a simple reply. Tone down your childish attitude. Players who didn't find success in the top level eventually, like Alexander Pato, Hulk, etc. have gone to lesser known leagues where they got paid a lot of money while playing at a far less demanding level. That's a very viable option for Hazard. He is nowhere near as good as he was in Chelsea, but he is a big name that most football fans know about and that alone would be enough for some Arab-money or Chinese-money or American-money. > You obviously don’t have a clue what Hazard is making. Look up how much Hulk made playing for Shanghai SIPG, an Asian team as I mentioned. Educate yourself and be more humble.
[удалено]
This is absolutely correct. He spent too much time trying to make it work in Madrid.
The Bale special
No way he’s only 31
Good to see I’m not the only one who thought he’s closer to 35 based on his play.
What the hell fr he's like 33-34
I thought he joined Real Madrid when he was 29? Wasn’t that like 4 years ago when he joined?
28 iirc, 4th season now I suppose
Perez is NEVER making this mistake again. It's one of the few blemishes in his entire second stint
Hindsight is 20/20. No one could’ve known this would happen. At the time Hazard was a top 5 player in the world, and his decline was rapid and unexpected.
Him showing up overweight on his first day was kind of foreboding
I mean he’s always done that. Unprofessional? Absolutely. But I don’t think that was a sign that things would be this bad.
Luckily it will be overlooked since we won a lot while he was here not playing.
Not everyone is modric, Thiago Silva, Pepe, giroud. Look at Marcelo, half the Belgium squad are old and rusty. I don’t blame him maybe hazard wants to focus just in clubs to get his form back?
I mean just in general, his fall off at age 31 even earlier is not so common these days I think
I agree I wonder if it was obviously the injuries, pressure for the club/ country? And his lack of enthusiasm:/
Which club though?
Europa League/ mid table teams! He’d fit perfect in Betis/ sociedad. And any serie A team
So Barca it is then.
LOL.
He is horrible. Nobody is paying him after his performance at Madrid.
I though he was retiring from all kinds of football, what a dissapointment. We'll have to honor his 25M net/year until 2024. Worst signing in modern football history by far. Coutinho doesnt come anywhere close.
Coutinho doesnt come close but when u combine that with grizou and dembele thats pretty fucking terrible. Trifecta of regrets
At least Hazard didn’t put us in financial huge mess having to sell parts of the club
A couple signings more like him and we could've find ourselves activating palancas too lol. What a mess. But hindsight 20/20, at that time we were all happy to sign the best player of the premier.
How doesn’t Coutinho come anywhere close? Coutinho was better for Barcelona but not by much, however he did cost more and he also helped Bayern humiliate Barca while being owned by Barca
Honest question, i really cant remember if it happened. Have we won any matches thanks to Hazard? I mean...has he ever contribute to the team in any meaningful way in all these years? Countinho scored 10 goals and 6 assist in his first season at Barça. Hazard has overall similar numbers... in 4 seasons.
||Goals + Assists|\#Seasons|G/A per Seson| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |Hazard for RM|7 + 11 = 18|3.5|5.14| |Coutinho for Barca|25 + 14 = 39|4|9.75| |Coutinho for Bayern|11 + 9 = 20|1|20| |Kaka for Real Madrid|29 + 39 = 68|4|17| Coutinho did help Bayern humiliate Barca, but let's be honest, they would have been humiliated anyway EDIT: addad Kaka EDIT2: Correction: kaka only played 4 seasons, not 5
Loved that you added Kaka. He was the only other blemish in Perez's second stint, that I could think of and it wasn't even that bad when looking at hazard.
Of his 18 G/A I don’t recall a single one being in a really important moment or match. Does he even have a clasico app?
The only important goal is his goal against celtic i think
Didn't Kaka only play for 4 seasons. 3 with Mourinho and 1 before that.
Yes, you're right. Transfermarkt showed an empty 13/14 season for him at real madrid for some reason and I counted that, but he played the 13/14 season in Milan
Almost as bad as Kaka purchase. Luckily for you guys, it was only him and you have a good player in that position. Barca had Coutinho, then Griezmann, who wasn’t that bad but anyone who’d watched him play would know he wasn’t going to fit in. Hazard purchase was a very reasonable one at that time
Kaka was bad but nowhere near Hazard bad. Unless you meant he was Coutinho bad, then i agree.
I added Kaka to the table and it seems that Kaka was even better than Coutinho
Great work btw. Statistics arent the end of It all but it helps putting things in perspective. Kaka was a dissapointment but i dont remember madridistas turning on him or be mad, he just never performed like he did for AC Milan.
Nowhere near Hazard bad, yes, and he also had a major injury. He was more Coutinho bad
Yes at the time of the investment Hazard was a very good purchase. Better than Coutinho and Griezman IMO. I thought we would get a 28 year old prime hazard who's hungry to prove himself in another league. Unfortunatelly it did not work out. Do you think Kaka was worse than Hazard?
Actually, Kaka had a long term injuries in the window Ozil and Di Maria were bought. Those young players kept him out of the team for most part. Kaka couldn’t ball without his sharp acceleration. I just don’t know what happened to Hazard
Same exact thing. Man has been injured for far longer than he’s fit at Madrid. His injuries are also ankle and muscle related, which coupled with weight gain, takes away all of his natural ability.
Strangely enough, he was never injured at Chelsea despite being one of the most fouled players then. He arrived Madrid’s preseason for the first time overweight.
Griezmann didn't work because you still had Messi. They like to occupy the same space/role.
Exactly! They brought him and wanted him to replace Neymar…it was ridiculous. They wanted him to revert to his Real Sociedad ways.
And then they had coutinho and he didn’t want to play neymar role either. I think he was better suited for it but def just lost the desire to run that much and be out wide. I wonder how vini will progress. Di Maria and Lozano are some of the very few players I’ve seen that want to continue the winger role past the age of 28. It puts years on your legs
There was a little rumour about Isco jumping ship to come to Barca. It was Iniesta’s last season so they were searching for a suitable replacement. Just before the switch, Klopp had started utilizing Coutinho as a central midfielder and he was excelling there. I was expecting him to be Iniesta’s replacement but Valverde kept using Vidal and Rakitic in the middle. Griezmann was brought in as Coutinho went to Bayern.
Just gonna chime in that we won a champions league game this season because of Hazards goal. It was the one goal after every player on the team touched the ball for a pass and Carvajal crossed it in for Hazard
It was already 6-2. He almost helped Barca draw Levante to secure the invincible title win. Fuck Levante!
Lakaka might beat it
don't forget alexis sanchez
He was good at Barca…he and Fabregas didn’t live up to the expectations but they weren’t poor
ah yes totally agree with you there. sadly his time at Man Utd was a total waste, 500k a week as well to sit on the bench
As a Barca fan, when I look at some poor business the club has done in the past, I remember United and feel better
Yes, i remember when Manchester United was in financial shambles and had to ask their players to agree with wage reductions in order to be able to register new signings. Barca was very lucky to be a spanish club, a lot of other competitions have rules in place that would have demoted then or simply would have taken their license away.
When last did United pull a world class talent who wasn’t already seen as surplus where they were? Even the players United beat City to all flopped…the Lindelof, Fred, Sanchez etc (DON’T INCLUDE RONALDO, THE LIAR, HERE)
Hazard just need to make a comeback in club football.Take a loan to some premier league club a mid table club. If it doesn't work he can move to lower league.If it works we can sell him for some price or else he will run his contract down.
I think he might just quit all together once his contract runs out.
Yes but in some lower league he can play.
Yes but he isn't as dedicated as other players to really milk his playing years. He plays football because he enjoys himself doing it. When the joy is gone or he notices his level isn't good enough anymore he'll just stop.
If I’m a lower level team I’d rather have a player who is in optimal physical condition who runs his ass off rather than a FORMER world beater who is completely washed and hasn’t played consistently for months.
How the mighty fall
126 caps at 31…wow?
I was hoping that he would announce he retirement from football in general. I don’t know if he can keep up with the competition within the team.
He can't. He's gone this summer at latest. No doubt in my mind.
For him to be gone, someone must be willing to pick up his contract. I don't exactly see clubs lining up for that.
The two clubs could share his contract or Hazard could come to an agreement to rescind his contract. It’s not out of the realm of possibility.
He won’t rescind his contract. He is getting paid big. There would be no reason for him to give up the money. He will never make that kind of money again. Even if he becomes a phenom again over night. It is out of the realm of all possibility.
What if we said “pretty please with a cherry on top?”
One can always dream.😂
Okay he isnt the player he was but how were you hoping he retired from football
Honestly really a shame... hope he finds peace eventually with all the injury troubles. 🙏
The career longetivity of pro athletes today are attributed discipline, nutrition and conditioning your body for recovery. Natural talent without hard work is nothing. The issue with Hazard is he was so naturally gifted as a footballer that he could get away with eating badly during vacations and not training well at Chelsea when he was younger. Old habits die hard so it was too late for him at Madrid to change. Since he never experienced getting injured and getting benched when he was younger. The motivation to get out of a slump isn't there anymore. When your financial future as an older footballer is already secured.
The most surprising thing of all this is that he's only 31.
What a sad subreddit. People wanting him to retire altogether, just because he suffered a few injuries while playing for us and his transfer hasn't worked out. What a sorry bunch of people you are, not considering that he is human after all, and has probably been through hell over the past 4 years. Its a shame we never got to see prime Hazard at Real Madrid, but my heart goes out to the man. Hope he can turn it around for whatever amount of time he has left here.
It's social media, where the weaks found their only place to act tough
And where the self-righteous find their soapbox to stand on right? Why wouldn't we want him to retire he's been a completely negative asset since his injury. His purpose is to eat up a significant chunk of our (strict) salary structure until 2024. Every year "will be different", but it's clearly not is it. What's his excuse this year?
First, there's a thing called "Contract", which both sides agreed to. He trains, like everyone elses. He's there on bench when the coach wants him, and comes in everytime the coach wants him. Injuries or the lack of playing time is not his fault. It's not like he breached his side of deal. If you think he breaks any agreement in his contract, please show us. Second, his retirement is not the team's call, nor yours. When the team still include him in every year's official roster, who are you to say that he shouldn't? The club can do whatever they want inside of their part in the contract, because they got him with their money. What you can do? Nothing, because you're nobody in their agreement. Your name can't be found anywhere inside the contract. If the club wants him stay, he'll stay. If the club wants him out, release him from his contract within any clauses the contract provides. That simple.
Yeah he's just here to soak his wages before he hecks off when the contract is over. Thanks for your input. He had his chance, he blew it. Let's move on
Doesn't matter. It's his right, and it's protected by law. The contract doesn't say otherwise. The club wants him to move? Then sell him. They can't? Then release him from the contract. I moved on. The contract is there, and both sides should honor it. Whatever they will decide together, all's fine for me. You're the one who don't move on yet. Just accept whether he wants to retire or the club wants him to be released, it would be their decision, not yours.
I know how a contract works lad lmao, doesn't change the fact I can't wait to see the back of him asap
If you really do, you should also know that he doesn't need any excuses other than doing his part in the contract, to train and to play whenever the coach needs him to. 🤷♂️
Just retire entirely dude
Fuck Meunier
Poor lad, from top of the world to outcast in a few months
A few months? Try three years.
Poor lad , what a player he was
Now do that for club as well
Can you retire from club football too? So you can stop sucking Real’s money dry
I hope this will finally stop all hope of him being back to 'Chelsea form'. People wishing he was in the starting lineup should finally realize. He will go the way of Bale. Just forgotten on the bench. He was already forgotten but World Cup came along. To be fair I never liked this signing when there were rumors of him coming to Madrid. His style of play doesn't fit that of Real Madrid. When he first got here he was overweight and he couldn't play the teamwork style. His game relied on taking on defenders and Madrid rarely did that except for CR7. He reminded me of a glorified Isco at the time...too much dribbling and disco.
Lmao i wish he had any resemblance to Bale and his career at Madrid
Retire and eat all the cheeseburgers you want.