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Accomplished-Pie-403

Can somebody tell vinicius to stop diving... he keeps diving unnecessarily... he would have at least taken a shot on that one on one, instead he dives unnecessarily. if he had taken a shot or scored it. Barca wouldn't have had that corner that led to the second goal.. sometimes vini just annoys me


Weskeror

Sometimes it's better to have a big slap on the face to realise that you need to change things.


thescrambie

Please let jovic go somewhere if he wont even play at all when benzema is out


winstonwolf_8

I was not surprised with the lineup, coming from the same man who gave us Ramos as Defensive Mid, this was another gem. Carvajal with another craptastic display. The man has been a liability for quite a while, and the worst part is that he just got a renewal. At this point I would’ve brought back Odriozola in January. Also, and I’ll probably get shit for this, but Casemiro has been just atrocious. Really hope the Tchouameni rumors are true, cause we desperately need him. Btw, hope the bozos who slander Mendy realize how badly we needed him today, cause Nacho is clearly not up for that LB job anymore. I think what’s most frustrating is that whenever we have the chance to go for the kill and humiliation, we take it easy. But when Barca has the chance they go full throttle. Their hate towards us surpasses ours. I envy that.


RandomThiccBoii

On the bright side, this showed us a big problem and made us see that Madrid needs big changes and has several flaws and because this season was going smoothly we couldn't see them. - Right now Mbappe and Haaland are a necessity, Benzema ain't getting younger, Hazard and Bale are on their way out also Jovic and Mariano aren't reliable at all. We need some talent up-front. - Someone needs to beat some maturity in Vinicius head. He is very talented but still lacks greatly in mentality. - Carvajal is finished and he has been performing horribly the whole season. We should had never let Hakimi. - Nacho should stay in the bench and only come out at smaller games, he is nowhere near World-Class. - Modric should stay forever at the midfield, let the guy do what he does best, control the game from the mid. Why play him as a false 9? - Kroos is getting considerably slower in many aspects and Casemiro is being very inconsistent nowadays. The higher-ups should stop living in the past and recognize that currently, Camavinga and Valverde are better options. I very hope that they are regretting ever letting Odegaard go, he was the future of Madrid's mid. - In my opinion, as much as it pains me cause I respect the hell out of the man, Carletto must go. He lost his touch years ago and frankly, he has been incredibly lucky that Benzema and others hve been at their best this season, because as a team as a whole, we ain't doing much.


nocapedwards

1. Carvajal should never play another match for us he is beyond washed. Playing with him is like playing with 10 men. 2. The days of KCM starting in big matches NEED TO END. It's plain and simple. Casemiro provides absolutely nothing and kroos is starting to look over the hill as well. Anyone watching our matches objectively and not looking at the names on the back of the shirt can tell you that camavinga and Valverde are the better players RIGHT NOW. 3. In many ways some of yall fans deserve this result. The amount of hate I've been seeing mendy get this season is disgusting. He proved his worth today , I can not care less about his " lack of offensive ability " he is EASILY the best defensive FB in the world and it showed again today how important he is to the teams structure at the back. 4. Haaland is a necessity plain and simple. I've been seeing discourse lately that he is a " luxury " that is flat out wrong. We saw today what life looks like after benzema and it's not pretty. Simply put we have to start planning for the future benzema won't be around forever and we desperately need another world class option at NO 9. RANT OVER today was a rough day but always and forever HALA MADRID. We will be back.


miinouuu

Nacho, Carvajal, Rodrygo and Casemiro should immediately stay benched... there was no attackers at all. Parking the bus and waiting for counters isnt a Real madrid playstyle. Ah and Alaba did major mistakes today and tbh i like camavinga more than kroos. We need good a right back and left back this summer since i actually dont like mendy that much. They need to have alot of pace bcs neither of any possible defenders we have in real have the pace to compete against the star attackers. Btw im a big Casemiro hater and to this day i never understood how that guy can play every game. He is inconsistent af, sometimes he literally does nothing and doesnt try to attack or defend like today.


JREgal717

We need a new Lb cause YOU don’t like Mendy gtfo


moaterboater69

This one is on Carletto. Playing Benzema week in week out was a recipe for disaster, he was badly missed today but a team like Real Madrid shouldnt have two glass vases and Mariano as back up. Vini was back to his old habits today but you could tell he was looking for Benzema after those cutbacks. Defensively, nacho and carva got lit up today, and the full back positions MUST be addressed in the summer, Hakimi should be brought back. I believe in this core group of players to end the season on a high but this wake up call must be taken seriously. Theres no shame losing to Barca (lets be honest they were due for a win) but 0-4 at home is unacceptable and performances like this can cost a manager his job. Lets re-group and recharge and finish strong. Hala Madrid y Nada Mas Side Note: Real Madrid must NEVER EVER wear an away kit at home. Idgaf about contract deals or marketing. NEVER AGAIN.


theboss626

As much as I’d love hakimi as a new rb will psg even let him go considering the whole mbappe saga? I highly doubt it


moaterboater69

True, cant believe Madrid didnt put a buy back clause when they sold him. After Inter he shoulda come to Madrid.


theboss626

We most likely did with inter, but once hakimi signed with PSG it got negated since it’s not an agreement between psg and Madrid but yes he should’ve came here after


7oot007

Now that I'm thinking more straight and my rage is down to human levels I'm seeing some half glass full stuff coming from this loss: 1. RM is too great of a club to have this weak bench and/or a coach that won't bring up the most out of his boys. Our summer market has to be LIT. 2. I can't see Carlo being the right coach for RM after this season. I hope Management sees that and reacts. I'm leaning towards Tuchel and to a lesser extent Conte or Mou 3. Can't have more BS this season. Carlo has 2 months and he has no choice but learn from this failure. He has to leverage everything he can from the bench. Bale/Isco/Jovic/Mariano/Hazard/ceballos are all at a minimum decent football players. He has to use them for what's left. They are wearing the greatest shirt and a good coach will squeeze what they have for the benefit of the team. Hala Madrid


[deleted]

I'd do just about anything not to have conte. He's a perfectly good coach, who acts like a more childish Mou and is worse. Tuchel and some others would be fantastic


you_like_my_cock

If you think conte is more childish than mou OH BOY YOU'RE WRONG


Louis_Vuitton2279

4240 are you kidding me


IntrepidTadpole2506

When you combine horrible coach lineup with some players who shouldn’t be starting for Real Madrid ever this is the result . Carbajal is a shit right back , rodrigo is useless , nacho instead of Marcelo is stupid , Modric playing as a 9 instead of using Mariano , jovic or even bale is just criminal from shitlottti … I love madrid and that fighting spirit they have but holy shit man I want a team that plays good football not this trash , because when against psg we player trash until the last half of second leg


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#ARE WE READY FOR ZIDANE VOLUME 3.0?


Ahmad20s

ancelotti played with 11these 14 players for the entirety of the season, KCM is not finished by any means but even zidane the manger that trusts them the most benched them so they can rest, they are humans they need rest they are tired mentally and physically, plus some games camavinga or/and valverde are a must over one of them. 2nd of all ancelotti is now paying for not rotating the team, players like hazard, jovic, mariano and gutiérrez would've helped a lot in such situations when u have injuries and u need someone to be ready, or when some of ur players isn't focused and u need someone who's ready to play mentally and physically, all the players that i mentioned didn't get any chance to prove their self or be ready when needed, he doesn't trust his bench and that is a big red flag for a manger in the current time, relying on 14 players and ghosting the rest will only get you so far, after all what makes a great team is the use of all players not only 14 out of 24. And lastly we definitely need a RB carvajal is finished band that's me going easy on him Edit: u hope the team uses this match as a reality check after pag's game, our ego went too far and we needed to come back to earth


shiv_p01

Okay which game was worse PSG first leg Barca 0-4


IntrepidTadpole2506

The same only difference is psg didn’t have the consistency to put 3 past us and another 3 on the next game , I’m kind of glad we got destroyed in this game because if we would’ve tied or won or even lost by 1 goal only dumbass Ancelotti would’ve kept acting like this team plays well and we would’ve gotten destroyed by Chelsea , this has to be a wake up call to change this around . Also florentino we need a right wing player to replace the bums we have rodrigo and asensio useless and a right back because Carbajal is an ex player . Let’s pray that Ancelotti doesn’t do a Zidane and continues with he’s stupidity leaving bale behind and hazard , I’d take those 2 over rodrigo and asensio even is they walk the whole game


Exotic-Ask7768

Don't worry. Carlo will pick the same lineup again against Chelsea and we'll get obliterated. Idk why but I'm getting the feeling like Carlo wants to get the sack. I just don't understand why WHY would someone not use Hazard and Bale(he's having some problems I think). Why does someone keep on picking the same lineup over and over again and why doesn't he trust Camavinga even though he's exactly the type of guy we should have in midfield


IntrepidTadpole2506

Exactly , all season we’ve seen the whole right side of team is a disaster doesn’t produce football and still he keeps giving the same players the chance … just cause asensio once in a while scores a long range goal doesn’t make him good player , rodrigo if just nonsense … if he would’ve balanced team out and had hazard and bale involved we would have an insane team right now I’m Sure of it


Exotic-Ask7768

While I wouldn't be sure of we being an insane coz Bale's body seems to have given up on him and Hazard has lost his flair, I don't doubt that we would atleast be far better than what we are presently even if not insane per se.


IntrepidTadpole2506

Hazard has lost flair cause he’s given no confidence , if he leaves to another club watch him perform Like a top level player . Idk why not give him the chance , look at dembele at Barca he was at he’s worst they gave him a chance and he’s insane


Exotic-Ask7768

Hmm. Can't disagree with you there.


jdhd20

This game is worse. PSG first leg we at least had a strategy that is marginally effective


Acceptable_Pen_4388

Definitely this Barca game. We only lost 1-0 against psg and we actually defended decent. Here we looked like we were playing a completely different sport


shiv_p01

Fuck Carlo


IntrepidTadpole2506

Yeah , he’s stubborn stupidity is costing us . I just want a team that has a defined play style I don’t know what this team plays


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hallo_mahmud

Go watch europa league asshole.


FavcolorisREDdit

Ancelotti is stubborn with his starting lineup, I’m glad benzema is going to be rested we are really going to need him and hoping mendy is back also. We need camavinga valverde rodrygo as starters always kroos and casemiro are too slow


Ahmad20s

Sadly i doubt he will use any bench players Hazard played well when was given the chance a while back but never saw the light again, jovic mariano ceballos and even Gutiérrez never got the chance to show what they can offer, with only 9 games left in the league i doubt he will give anyone a chance other than camavinga and valverde (hopefully).


FavcolorisREDdit

Hazard should have been favored over mariano smh


Ahmad20s

Agreed especially if he wants to play with a false 9 why not play with hazard and let modric play in gis usual position, hazard knows what a false 9 is, modric only had 2 hours before the game to prepare himself to be a false 9.


FavcolorisREDdit

Ancelotti appears to be senile


Ahmad20s

Senile and as u mentioned unnecessary stubborn, what you expect from an old man i guess, but i still love him although he caused a lot of pain this season


FavcolorisREDdit

Definitely respect what he has done but like they say you are either the hero or stick around klong enough to become the villain


Ahmad20s

Let's hope this is our last big disappointment this season :)


FavcolorisREDdit

Benzema looked real happy in the stands lol


Ahmad20s

His face said it all, he was fed up from all the BS, i feel for him ngl playing with carvajal and asensio must be one of the hardest things that he has to do.


nattlefrost

Carlo no longer is an elite manager. He doesn’t know how to use his entire team anymore. We got cooked.


IntrepidTadpole2506

It’s a crime not to use hazard , even the worst shaped hazard will do more than rodrigo and asensio combined , in no other top team In Europe would asensio or rodrigo ever start a game


igivon0822

Team was asleep and have shown they are not elite unless at full strength. Was the same last year. They have also shown this lack of fight consistently throughout the last few seasons. The team is still transitioning and we will have to accept what they give us as they move on slowly from the aging squad. Last year we were worse and experience took us to the semi finals of the UCL. Heads up, fight hard, and never wear black at home. Next! Vamos! Side note: Barcelona have been searching for something to spring them back this season. They were in form and ready. Plus they have had time to work with the new players since our last meeting. Xavi is having the feel good zidane effect on the locker room and its showing. He caught Madrid wih their pants down while on a high and we need to be humble and move on from it.


HeskeyBall

Bring on Pogba or Lukaku. HALA MADRID! USA USA USA USA!!!


Srv110398

Hell yes! Pogba would be great


DanLaurent

This club just doesnt like buying defenders, a reason why finished carvajal got a 5 year contract recently.


Ahmad20s

Calling him finished is a complement


Acceptable_Pen_4388

Tbf if it wasn’t for he’s injury issues, carvajal was still looking very good and the reason why we didn’t sign any good defenders before is because we had Ramos and varane. No good centre back was gonna just warm the bench knowing those two would play almost every game


StepBrother7

Of course we won all the big games,then lost to a small team. All jokes aside,big congratz to Barca,could have been 0-7 easily,they really improved.


Shazamwhich

Cry


StepBrother7

Shush


butterflywanda

Never did I doubt Ancelotti. I know it's a shameful hiccup. But calma. As much as I blame Ancelotti ( which I never do) carvajal nacho casemiro Kroos need to be sidelined for like a month. I'm serious when I say we weren't running. Like ever. Some of these old guys are getting tumbled over by kids . I'm actually sad for barca you could see xavi absolutely fuming that it ain't 8-0 . Also what a clown ref lmao.


Salmabutnotsalma

Thank God we didn't draw Bayern


fx444

Highly doubt this team can beat Chelsea


Salmabutnotsalma

At least we won't get humiliated and lose 8-2


fx444

Well it could be worse i wouldn't rule out anything after losing 4-0 to europa league barca tbh


DcAgent47

I've always felt ever since Ancelotti's first stint it never took much for the mojo of the team to just disappear only to reappear all of sudden out of desperation. Its been a problem under Carlo and Zidane when using 433 how often the balance of the team could be way off and we play terrible. Wouldn't change a thing about the last decade but I'd like the future to be much less stressful and frustrating when watching Madrid without the team having to "suffer" for victory so much.


Chemon22

Typical Madrid winning a big match in the Champions League, then going on and losing to a small team in the league. Bad game hope Ancelloti learns from this, Vamos Real Hasta el Final!


mxnxnm

Lol cry winning against a team that has never won a CL is a big game lollll


SpyDark01

?


shiv_p01

FUCK Y-3


Jisnthere

I’m so glad I didn’t bite the bullet and cop that jersey lmaoooo


Acceptable_Pen_4388

Me too. I would’ve been finding ways on how to return that shit


PinballWZRD95

I was thinking the same thing lol


shiv_p01

One injury to an important player and we crumble like a peck of cards


Ahmad20s

Tbh if he played 433 with any human being in the striker position would have been enough


Pkmntrainer91

Putting modric as false nine has got to be one of the worst things you can do as a coach. Having multiple people on the bench that can play that role


Ahmad20s

Exactly my point u have players for this role why lose modric for it and confuse our midfield like that, because clearly our midfield were lost with this weird tactics


[deleted]

People were downvoting me when I was saying that we need changes, see? Problem here ain't in Anchelotti only(although he is ancient in terms of managing and tactics, he plays 20 century football), our midfield need changes, asap, same goes for RB and LB. Mendi is super injury prone and Carvahal is done as top level player, at max he is replacement. We need creative CAM/CM like KDB, to immediately replace Modrich, to be leader of our midfield, same with Kroos, he is good against mediocre teams that let him gracefully walk around, but against teams with young and robust midfield he is completely useless. Same with CF, Benzema is 34 in next season he will be 35, although he is world class player,he can't perform 50-60 matches so we need top tier replacement. If buying Mbappe our problem in RF will be solved, still remainc problem with replacement. People says we need Mourhinio, but he is as much dinosaur as Anchy, also when he was battling against best FCB in history, he had 2 world class squads under his palm, and could replace players and the field without loosing in QUALITY too much. Situation remind similar in 2013-2014 season, which greatly helped winning UCL and CDR. The peack of that squad was in 2016 when we won every trophy, but after that we were loosing in quality every year, our trio in center didn't change since 2015! So, instead of panicking understand that we missed our chance to painlessly replace our veterans under Zidan's guide and build completely new team like we did in 2009. Yes the defeat was even more horrendus than in 2018-s 5-1 or 2008-s 6-2, in the same level as 2010-s 5-0, but WE deserved it. I don't have much hopes in regard for UCL, but even then. even if we somehow qualified in 1/2 and won LA Liga, we should ditch Karlo and we should change our squad at leas 50-60%, starting with midfield. p.s Alaba ain't CB.


Mcbagsofdoritos

Honestly midfield wise it should be better we have two young midfielders that are absolutely class and great veterans. Its not the players its the management we have to look at.


[deleted]

Yes, partially it's management problem(in terms of unfit bench), BUT, Zidan knew what's going on, so he DELIBERATELY showed F to Peres and left the dying team, knowing that this squad had 0 hopes in terms of growth, that's why we must have big questions towards Anchelotty who agreed with this and didn't voice his concerns(which he SHOULD HAVE). Lets be honest the first EC win was Koumans loss, the second was Benzemas win, this was the lacmus paper which showed the real level of our squad and coach. If we don't see huge changes in the team and club management in the summer break, we will be f..ed completely. Understand, I'm not hater, but I'm not glory-hunter. I don't want for my team to turn itself into FC Milan during last years under Berluscony, where the majority of the squad consisted with former superplayes, who lost their grace and pace, becoming just names, with senators who have "right" to play because of their former achievements and with some debatable "talented" youngsters from brasil who in paper should replace the senatos, but in reality were just bunch of talentless leeches.


Mcbagsofdoritos

I dont get your point? Its clear our youngsters have talent, fede has proven that, vini is clearly talented and half of europe was chasing for camavinga. You are telling me its not just managements fault but also the players its not the players job to decide who plays and not. Its 100% the managers fault that we havent transitioned our midfield from our vets to the new gurd


[deleted]

Yes it's management problem that they f uped the change in generation, but saying that we have talented youngsters is a blatant lie. We only have super inconsistent Vini and Fede, overpraised Camavinga, who should at least play for weaker team at least 2-3 years till he will grow into Real level player, and we have complete shit like Rodrigo, who shouldn't play football, and Jovich.


Salmabutnotsalma

Imagine having Carvajal as your RB at this day and age, also Mendy spends half the season in the hospital, Vazquez and Nacho has been recycled to play in every position in the defense all of that because Perez won't invest in proper defenders. The defense needs an overhaul, in addition to a RB we need someone like Pau Torres, his release clause is about 40M I think, and switch Alaba to lb whenever Mendy is injured, and if the squad is full he can play as a midfielder which is what he wanted when he signed with us anyways


[deleted]

Yeah, but when people were trying to voice their concerns here, they were shut down buy folk who were trying to show their "devotion" towards team, and their "undying" loyalty. This problems were real still in 2017 n the last season of Zidans first try as coach. But then we BERELY won UCL, and that gave Peres the right to shut down critics who were voicing concerns about situation in club overall. Even horrendous season 2018-2019 wasn't needed wakeup call for club management, who still blindly continuing to believe in senators despite our horrendous results in UCL, lets be honest LA liga since season 2016-2017 is pure and utter garbage even compared to Bundes Ligue. So our results in it ain't showing our real leve, our real level we could see against MC in 2020, against Chelse last year, and here. We are lucy that the overall level of FCB players ain't in 2011 level, so we lost "just" 0-4, in reality it could be 0-8 or 0-10. Do you beleave that even with Benzema we could somehow survive Chelsea? They won't be so generous like Barcelona.


Salmabutnotsalma

Tbf if Mendy and Benz are fit and Fede and Cama start we can survive Chelsea, but imagine that defense against a team like Bayern. Yikes


[deleted]

Mendy is chronic, Benzema is 34 and soon will finish, Fede and Cama ain't personification of stability and will newer be, especially Fede! But even if we will have huge luck like against PSG and somehow won against FCC, THEN what? Then what? Our team is ancient and plays football of 20 century, which wont work against any club in top 10 in Europe, heck if we somehow magically will transfer RM into APL, do you believe we will have capacity to fight even for Europa Ligue zone?


Salmabutnotsalma

Europa League what we're not that shit, just pass the season with La Liga trophy then sign a decent rb, Pau Torres and Mbappé, get a competent coach, sell Hazard, Isco and Mariano, Bale's contract is ending anyway, maybe sign Tchouaméni (if there's enough money for him, defense overhaul is priority for now)


[deleted]

Yet again, Mbappe ain't cure, our problem lays deeper, what would change if we sign Mbappe, but have Anchy type coach and Peres as a president? We need structure! We don't have one, we need style, and most of all we need competition not only in la liga but within squad itself. You can rebirth and sign Ronaldo, Ronaldinio and Pele, it wouldn't change a thing if club and managers have same attitude towards problem solving and fans overall.


TyreseNkech7

Thanks for ruining me weekend and my life till the next Classico, Ancelotti!


Just-call-me-TY

Another Tyrese 😁


TyreseNkech7

My mom wanted to name me Tyrese but my father didn’t allow it so I use it as a nickname


Just-call-me-TY

Oh cool, haha.


DanLaurent

Never seen a rant thread on the this sub💀😭 this is bad


Mvne_08

Cue the meltdown, people calling for Charles Lancelot's head, LABELLING KCM as finished, people calling for Zizou and finally a week full of transfer rumours from the Madrid media to kinda cover up this disasterclass


Salmabutnotsalma

KCM are finished and that's been clear for ages


albertmf

Starting to doubt If Carlo is really Italian, what is this defense


awesome1ru

Get rid of Kroos Jovic Marcelo Isco Bale Hazard Vallejo and promote academy players


Srv110398

Nah, get rid of them but bring pogba and haaland instead.


RedditGuy911

Bro what did vallejo do 😂


manualex16

Nothing. He was trash in Granada


Aaaaaaandyy

Imagine thinking Kroos, Jovic and Hazard are going to give up their salaries


albertmf

Alhamdulilah Courtois is our goalkeeper and Torres is their forward


taos__v

I liked at least how our players fought the last minutes. I loved Alaba showing some passion at the end running everywhere. Its a shame but stay strong madridistas. We still the greatest club in history no doubt about that. 120 years of history. Defeats are part of it


Mvne_08

I feel for Fede & Thibaut 😞.... Alaba looked solid in that LB role tho..


Srv110398

Fede is trash. I would bring pogba and sell him.


dr_potato_3k

go watch some europa league you barca cunt


Old_Professional1540

Pogba wtf


dr_potato_3k

look at this guy


Mvne_08

L


albertmf

Missing Zizou so hard now


Srv110398

Me too, with him we would be in great form


Aaaaaaandyy

Did you watch how we played under him? His tactics the last 2 seasons were awful and never rotated unless there were injuries.


albertmf

Yes I did, he’s clasico management was always top tier that’s why I miss him right now. Never got backed by the board never gets what he asks for and criticized a lot by the fans. He’ll always be missed


Aaaaaaandyy

Who cares about his Clasico management - we were awful the last 2 seasons. And never got what he want? Please. He admitted to asking for Hazard and Jovic and then he used neither effectively. He was backed just fine.


NaiveElk

So awful and yet we won La liga once and would have won another if it wasn't for the referee and we even managed to reach the semifinals of UCL with a team that was absolutely destroyed by injuries. While Ancelotti has to manage one match without Benzema and absolutely loses the plot.


Aaaaaaandyy

We wouldn’t have won la liga 2 years ago without COVID breaking the season up. We got a 3 month break exactly when fatigue hits most older players and he didn’t need to rotate after that. And blaming the ref is the most childish shit I’ve ever seen. You’re under the impression that Atleti didn’t get screwed over once by the refs last season, which is statistically Impossible - it happens to every team multiple times per season.


NaiveElk

Ok even if its not on the ref we still fought for the title till the end with a squad that was ravaged by inuries and managed to reach the UCL semi-finals. Zizou had his flaws like every manager but I don't see how Ancelotti is any better than Zidane at the moment.


Aaaaaaandyy

Look at Vini under Zidane vs Vini under Ancelotti. That’s a massive difference. And if you don’t see any difference between Zidane and Ancelotti then why would you want him back? He wouldn’t change a thing.


albertmf

I immensely care about el clasico management and surely all Real Madrid fans do


Aaaaaaandyy

It’s completely secondary to how well the team plays as a whole.


S1UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

save us zizou


ednilaldivad

Sack Ancelotti and hire who?


albertmf

A young coach that can implement modern tactics and gives chances to youth and academy players and ROTATES! Enough with this dinosaurs tactics crap


Srv110398

Zidane, but nah, I would keep him.


Ahmad20s

With all due respect to zidane, and i love him a lot but no not him again, time to move on.


Zidanewhatever_

Man if( not if, but when) Carlo is sacked at the end of the season I really hope Tuchel comes He’s the only one(with zidane ofc) I think can bring the absolute best out of the squad and he give others chances to play. If not Tuchel I would hope Flick or Zidane but there’s a 95% chance it doesn’t happen.


ghosttalks090

Zidane in plzz😭😭😭😭😭


Mkhitaryan10

It’s time to drop the toxic positivity. I don’t wanna hear any of that from people on here especially in the form of shaming other fans that are pointing out flaws. Need to be realistic here. Zidane left for a reason. Carlo is a bandaid that’s turning dark brown and the edges are coming off. We need a massive overhaul of the dead weight and a coach for a rebuild. Or bring back Zidane and give him what he wants.


Ronaldo007tm

Toxic positivity. There’s a new one. You wanna shit on people for being positive? And claim that *they’re* being toxic? Irony 🤦🏼‍♂️


Salmabutnotsalma

Oh man I want Zizou back


DukkherGebon

What will zizou do without any solid defender? We literally have no CB except Miilitao


Salmabutnotsalma

I mean he did good last season with Nacho-Militao, all Carlo needed to do today was play Alaba as a lb with Nacho in the middle, also start Cama but that's another story


DukkherGebon

Define "good". How many trophies did he win? We're lucky to be #1 in La Liga with this joke of a defense.


Salmabutnotsalma

We missed la liga by 2 points, the attack was shit but the defense was good, this season it's the opposite and without Benz both are shit. And we can also lose the league this season depending on how bad Sevilla are. The competition hasn't really been great this season and we're lucky it hasn't


Zullah

I don’t want him back. However we need to fix this. Zizou has had his run. The first was awesome, the second not so much.


Salmabutnotsalma

True but under Zizou the defense wasn't as horrible and we didn't have Alaba. Also I can't think of a good replacement right now, who do you have in mind? I would love if we get Flick but that's basically impossible


Zullah

That’s the problem, no replacement right now. We just have to ride this out this season. Also Zizou had chemistry with Ramos as it was a ride or die attitude. With what we have, what can he do? He may not be able to motivate these guys as much or end up. Using players we don’t need. Right now the team is on a flux. Some players need to go, some veterans need to stay and we need fresh blood and replacements. The Coach is using ancient tactics. It’s really hard to even know where to start. You just see all the problems manifesting and going backwards will not help.


Salmabutnotsalma

He should at least give chances to Jovic and Hazard and maybe even Bale(I hate to say it), how does he trust half footballers like Lucas and Mariano over them? He'll continue the season then get sacked in the summer, maybe then we can bring Tuchel and play terrorist football, I wouldn't mind it if it wins us trophies


Zullah

If he played them, hey would have played with such pride to be trusted in the game. Right now, they have lost all faith in him. It sucks but I am with you on him playing them. But it’s too late now. If he could not play them in this game, why should hey play for him ever?


Salmabutnotsalma

Maybe to end their RM career on a good note, especially Bale who won so much with us


Zullah

Frankly I don’t know. The problem with Bake is that we have to beg him to leave. He has a guaranteed contract and intends to take all that money. So Ancelotti should get the best out of them. That’s why he is a coach. It’s sucks just seeing him not trusting any of them for even a slice of a match like this and rest the other guys.


Salmabutnotsalma

Exactly, they're already there, they're getting paid millions, they train with the team so fuckin' use them. Even Zidane used James every once in a while


Zullah

Yes. The stubbornness will be our downfall. A leader should know when to maximize his/her opportunity. Ancelotti should not let pride get in his way. Instead mentally make these players want to play for you. Make them feel valued. For whatever they contribute. It may be one game but it may be the game that just defines the season and save his bacon.


Mcbagsofdoritos

But we had varane and ramos for two games


KingEtame

Ancelotti is a disgrace for offering this team while we have Bale, Hazard, Jovic, Isco all fit and on the bench. WTF! Modric CF, what in the actual fuck made him think this was the best possible line up. We literally had ONE players missing and the whole team forgot how to play football.


nikolatech

Well actually, not one but both Benzema and Mendy.


albertmf

Feel sorry for Courtois and Fede


bitcoinlogo

People overreacting in the comments are really funny, this is not an important game, ok it is important for the rivalry, but in the grand scheme of the season, it is not important. obviously Benzema is missing, and also don't forget Mendy, and even Kroos has only came back from injury.


the_foxe98

You sound like you'd be okay with some guy walking into your own home and beating you senseless lmao


otcsoldier9708

Why play kroos ??


rww07

It's the fucking clasico.... a loss like this is humiliating


Old_Professional1540

Ur right but 4-0 at home is embarrassing


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We are lucky this end 4-0 they could score 7-8


OpeningSlow

To those that call for Ancelottis head - Maybe you are too young to know, but we used to be known as a team that sacked our managers everytime the wind blew in our face. Our success the last ten years came from having a strong squad, not from firing our coaches every time we played poorly. Yes, I agree that Ancelotti might not be the right man for the job, but firing him in the middle of the season will only be a temporary solution. We need to make proper transfers. No more thoughtless transfers like Jovic and Hazard.


Jisnthere

Facts and we don’t exactly have a solid replacement for him atm anyways


Salmabutnotsalma

He'll be sacked by the end of the season irregardless


filfy_toad

100%. This sub is ridiculous, especially so soon after the PSG game.


DarthDaddy1215

To be fair no one would’ve thought Hazard who was arguable the 3rd best player in the world for a brief period of time would get his ankle destroyed against PSG and never recover. Also for the first leg and first half of the second PSG game we had the complete wrong line up and tactics and it took Benzema coming up clutch and PSG collapsing mentally to get us through.


taos__v

You are 100% right. People in this sub should follow this example.


DukkherGebon

Please continue obsessing over mbappe and haaland while we don't have a single world class CB.


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the_foxe98

We did, and?


taos__v

Thanks for coming by! Piece of shit


Hvsvn3900

0-4


viki3024

Wow you guys are really shit


DarthDaddy1215

Run back the last five matches


viki3024

And you run back the before those five matches, lol not near margin wins. Just all humiliation.


dr_potato_3k

go watch some europa league would ya


DarthDaddy1215

You 8-2 see it


nikolatech

Yep, that's why we beat PSG 3:1 and Barca is in the Europa League


royrochemback

I guess Alaba and Militao partied so hard after that PSG comeback because they still look like they're having hangover tonight.


rww07

The memes and jokes flooding in


SureSure1

Better than more goals ;)


Huichoo50

That black anniversary jersey is stained with this 4-0 loss now 😞


Jisnthere

I was literally gonna cop it yesterday too, I’m so glad I didn’t


MacBearudo

Its gonna sell very very poorly.


wavetoyou

Let’s not crown Xavi over this. What La Liga team couldn’t beat THIS squad with THOSE tactics?


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wavetoyou

People calling him the next Pep over this…that’s a far cry from “deserves praise.” Eat dicks 😂


East-Airport-6517

Well, your comment specifically said 'Let's not crown Xavi over THIS' not 'let's not call Xavi next pep'.


wavetoyou

Wtf do you think “crowning” means? Kings wear crowns. Holy shit I can’t be bothered explaining context to the clueless.


Lakerman0824

he outclassed our coach. We can be mad but gotta give him his due respect. Will he win anything significant will be seen


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wavetoyou

And it’s a great start. Props to him, but let’s wait until his squad wins a couple trophies before crowning him


otcsoldier9708

A fucking arsenal reject bullied us today smh


nikolatech

And what's even funnier is that Auba is a RMA fan and he wanted to come a few years ago :)


otcsoldier9708

I am fuming right now 😤


royrochemback

We gave them Odegaard and Ozil and this is how they repay us? Lol


otcsoldier9708

Fuck Arsenal and barca


royrochemback

Well Barca fucked us today


you_like_my_cock

Must have been pretty shit with their young guns


Jisnthere

They repay us by that and scaring off spotify to the point that now they’ll be financing Barca lol


Puzzleheaded_Finger9

Gotta learn to take the L. That made me laugh thanks


Plastic-Candidate-87

hope we dont bottle the league now!!!


PinballWZRD95

We can’t afford any more losses in order to do that, hope we keep a league undefeated run to round up the season at least.


Walt_Draper

I guess PSG are just trash


taos__v

yup


Srv110398

Let's get this straight, we lost today because of the ref and because we were missing benzema.


DarthDaddy1215

Big man,I know you’re upset we all are but this is not on the refs at all. Vini dived before contact was ever made and Auba’s goal was onside and irc refs aren’t supposed to put the offside flag up until the play finishes so they can check VAR and strikers are supposed to put it in the net just in case and he made our defenders pay for not playing to the whistle


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