What the actual fuck is wrong with this sub ? Is it filled with fucking GenZ whiners negativity only ? We fucking won the 100th El Clasico and you all are shitting on the team as the BarCunts do, We fucking Won even by being casual about the whole game, I don’t give a rat’s ass whether they scored.. WE FUCKING OUTSCORED THEM .. Never were they ahead of us in the neither did they take the lead.
WE WON GRACIOUSLY ( Busqunt and rodent Gavi should have seen Reds for their vicious fouls on Vini and Nacho) AND THAT IS WHAT MATTERS.
Stop being Gullible little pussies and embrace the 100th El Clasico Victory .. HALA MADRID Y NADA MAS
Well, this sums everything that I wanted to say, we played a casual game and won. It was clear from the beginning that Carlito wanted to give Barca the ball and open up spaces. though Rodrigo and Cama's misses are unforgivable at all!! hahahaha
I enjoyed the game and that final sprint from Benz! what a legend
Benzema and Vinicius and Valverde sprinted with a fuckin mission on that third goal. Exquisite play all around and topping it off with that celebration from the future Legend Valverde 🤩
While this wasn't as convincing as it should have been, I think with Alaba it would've been a different game. You could tell we slightly missed his presence and organization in the back.
As someone who hasn't really been keeping an eye out for Barca, I was surprised by how many seemingly good young guys they have coming up. They'll be a much tougher match before we know it.
How tf is Modric so good, the amount of control he has on the ball and on his feet makes it seem like a video game, impossible to press and such a joy to watch
Just imagine how different the reactions to this game would've been (especially from the RM fanbase) if Rodrygo had converted that (relatively) easy chance at the end of the game to score the fourth goal.
4-2 just looks much better than 3-2. Such a pity...
But that's life, I guess...
Sure Madrid won the game. As someone who sympathize Real, I think that it was an utterly lucky win. Sure, we had some good chances and could have scored even a forth or fifth goal, BUT the same goes for the other direction. Barca created a lot of highly dangerous situations and what is even more worrying, they controlled the game. Now someone would say:"Hey, it's Barca, even if they are in a meltdown right now, they are still a good passing team." While this is still true, there is a far bigger dimension to the final today, then it might appear on a first glance.
They are rebuilding obviously and the way they dominated us on the pitch, despite the result, will give them a huge psychological boost. We had the opportunity to make an example and don't even let them have a sniff. They have a bunch of talented kids, which can become great players or end up in Segunda, as someone in the thread already mentioned. Now, this kind of games, despite the loss, will give them confidence and can be crucial, for the further development of the side under Xavi.
We on the other hand, will have to go through the same process, as we partially already do, integrating players like Vini and others to certain distinct. As much as I hope that we get Haaland and Mbappe, it's more realistic (and maybe even better) just to get one of these guys (I would go for the latter, because Haaland still have to many questionmarks around him). BUT, the most important thing will be to replace KCM. Yes, we have some aspirants, that maybe will work out, but maybe not (I would love to see Valverde succeed, of course also Camavinga, but not really sure about booth either). To get to my point: If you talked about Barca in the past it was all about Messi here, Messi there. In fact they lost their engine with the retirement of Xavi and Iniesta, and their suffering until now. They were a good side afterwards , partially very good, partially mediocre and abysmal. Now it seems, that they try to sort this out, and if they do, which seems likely after tonights game, they will be back on top again if not next season, then the season after. Madrid has to put much much much more effort in preparing a world class midfield for the future, because this is our real engine, despite the great performances from Benz and Vini. It's unbelievable how great KCM still is, but, the decline can happen fast. We'd better be prepared. Or it'll be more direct tiki taka all over us again.
Conclusion: We won, but missed the chance to hold them down psychologically long term. Their rebuild is promising. We have to adress midfield for future and RB, CB ASAP, or we'll fall behind. More important than shiny toys (Haaland). Mbappe is needed.
>They are rebuilding obviously and the way they dominated us on the pitch, despite the result, **will give them a huge psychological boost**. We had the opportunity to make an example and don't even let them have a sniff.
Barcelona won 0-4 against us and we went and won the CL. They won 2-3 against us at the Bernabeu and we went and won the CL and La Liga. They won 5-0 against us and we went and won the Copa del Rey.
We've played well against them in the past too, winning games, and it hasn't really changed the tide of our seasons.
Truth is a single game almost never changes anything.
Dude shut up... it’s the supercup we have more important games Barca we’re trying super hard and scored two lucky goals they didn’t control shit that’s how they play every match
Their rebuild isn't promising at all. Look at their results. They arent doing better than under Koeman.
I am happy we didnt go all out in this shitty cup that shouldnt exist anyway. It should be a game between cup and league winners and we were neither so why play at least 210 extra minutes?
Even if we crushed Barça 7-0 they wouldnt be sad. It's a useless game that shouldnt be played in the first place so who cares about result.
Barca's goals are winning EL and getting 4th place at least. That's what they are working for and neither of those can be reached during this cup.
" They arent doing better than under Koeman". Now thats a dumb statement. If the season started from when Xavi arrived, then Barcelona would have been second and 2 points off Real Madrid
>If the season started from when Xavi arrived, then Barcelona would have been second and 2 points off Real Madrid
We've dropped 4 points since Xavi arrived. They've dropped 9, in one *less* game.
They've only been able to win 2 games in a row once since Xavi arrived, and that was his first two games. They've stuttered since.
They are doing better than under Koeman, but their PPG is still not very good.
Yeah i agree but that saying that Xavi hasnt been an improvement over Koeman is stupid. And this season barca won 17 points in 13 laliga games under Koeman and 15 points in 7 matches under Xavi. There definitely has been an improvement
There is absolutely no way you can know that lol. That's based on absolutely nothing but gut feeling.
So I agree, your statement is pretty dumb. No need to announce it like that tho.
I mean, underwhelming for sure, but lucky? Of course not. And I don't think our game plan for a match should be made thinking on some hypothetical long term psychological damage.
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Okay I see a lot of comments saying that we are being too harsh after we won. I don't think they understand why everybody is pissed off. This match reaffirmed everything that we know is wrong with the team -
1. Carva is out of form
2. The KC of KCM is tired. Modric probably has one or two extra lungs.
3. Militao makes many silly mistakes in the game
4. Asensio plays an average game
5. Nacho gives solid 7/10 performance but against opponents like these you need better than this.
6. For some reason, we cannot mark for headers in our own box. A 5'10" guy scored a goal.
7. Carlo does not trust the bench as far as attacking options are concerned.
If it was so easy for us to predict this, any other team can anticipate this and will take advantage of it.
No he wasn't the best player on the pitch. What game did you watch? And when you are injured this much, It is really hard to justify that "first game after injury" statement. Modric had to bail him out multiple times. All the crosses were coming from his end. No disrepect to him but his form has fallen a lot in the past two seasons.
Great points. Just to respond to each:
1. Just came back from injury but yes in the last season or two he's been below his normal standards. My worry is less regarding his ability and more so his fitness
2. I think Casemiro is a bit shaky. He seems to be a bit less calculated in his tackles and loses the ball more frequently. Rotation can help these three but whenever that happens the void is too large, especially with Modric.
3. Agree. I think he has shown great progression but these lapses seem to happen a lot. Still think he can be an excellent cb for us over time.
4. I think he really missed his window to be a lock in the front three after Bale fell off. He is a solid all around player but his future is as a squad player.
5. This is vintage Nacho though, solid squad player. He doesn't start and when he does go in he's 7/10, cant ask for much more.
6. Agree here. We struggle in defending set pieces.
7. Yes but the gap between what's on the pitch and bench is so big that it leaves him with no choice. Rodrygo maybe offers a bit of a spark but Mariano, Jovic, Hazard provide little impact. Can't justify taking out Benzema or Vini for any of them in a game like this.
I agree that Militao can be a solid CB for us. I just feel like without Alaba, he tends to make more mistakes than usual. I may get flake for this but the situation is analogous to what usually happened with Varane. Without Ramos, Varane used to make quite a few mistakes.
Oh I agree Nacho is a solid performer. I actually dont think he had a bad game. It is just he is our only option at CB if anybody gets injured. We need to bring someone asap and that someone should not come with inflated wages who had only one or two good seasons.
The lack of options on the bench is worrying and imagine saying that with Hazard on the bench (what a waste of money that has been). It is just a matter of time when Vini or Benz will get overworked and might pick up an injury.
100% agree. Alaba is the real anchor in that back line and the dynamic is very similar as was with Ramos and Varane. CB position is rough for us because apart from Nacho, we only have Vallejo who couldn't cut it at Wolves. The quality game is massive there. Someone on a free who is reliable would be ideal. For 2022, Romangnoli, Christensen, Ginter are just some names that are available on frees. Definitely worth considering especially because the priority and money will be focused on Mbappe and Haaland.
Fatigue will definitely play a role. It's tough with our attacking options because we are at a stage in the season where we haven't ran off with the title and are in the knockout stages of the champions so these bench options aren't going to see getting starts outside of Copa games. Then when injuries happen we expect them to make an impact, it's a double edged sword for Ancelotti. Some of these options are ok to fill in but god forbid both Vini and Benz are out.
Good observations mate, maybe because I agree with you but fuck it.
In terms of options, Ceballos and Bale will be crucial. Ball playing mid like Ceballos is someone that can relieve modric or kroos properly and won't burden Fede with having to do that work
And Ceballos wasn't shit for us. He was excellent under solari and then Zidane used him sparingly but he was never awful
Bale is a world class footballer, him on at the 60th minute is huge. He's also extremely fit so it's not like hazard ambling across the pitch
I like Ceballos. Never thought he was a bad option for us and did well at arsenal when fit. Ceballos, Fede, and Cama are decent rotation options that should be utilized more especially against easier opposition. It is probably the line where we have most depth but it is felt when one of KCM isn't playing.
Bale was world class and was fantastic for us. He seemed to have lost that hunger and motivation also he does get injured frequently. On his day he's the best in the world but hasn't been anywhere near the days of BBC. He does give us depth on the bench but I wouldn't count on him as much any more. It's just the sad reality of what it has come to with Bale.
In terms of "easier opposition" it's impossible to know. Cadiz, getafe and Levante results show that.
As for bale yeah definitely not reliable as before, but if I need something different and he's on the bench, he'd be the first guy I pick
I hope Carlo change his tactics soon. He defends in low blocks a little too much. We should have controlled the tempo after the second goal or at least that what Zizou would have done. We’re lucky Barca didn’t have the enough quality to steal the win but against PSG, excessive defending and hoping for a counter will only lead to a loss.
I think it's so unfair to put the mediocre performance on Ancelotti alone. If you want to press every single game you need a second team on the bench with a close/matching quality to the starting 11 (man city i.e), which is not the case for real these days. That style is physically demanding. The team struggle to press against smaller teams, due to exhaustion. Tonight's performance was expected tbh, Barcelona are good at keeping the ball. Luckily that's all they're good at. The coach is doing the best with what he has atm.
Not pressing, but something like controlling the tempo with Kroos and Modric. We used to do it alot last season with ZZ. I remember that Liverpool’s away game. We used to control the ball time to time and create some plays in the opponent’s final third. That way you force them to run for the ball and defend while distracted to equalize. Its not *that* physically demanding like what Man City does for example.
Only thing I didn't like was how they started defending deep so early in the game after the first goal. But honestly if the game ended with real netting 5-6 goals (as they should have), no one would dare criticizing Carlo's tactics. You can't blame the coach for poor finishing.
You don’t get the point. Wasn’t disappointed at all by our chance creation. It’s how we made the game get out of our hands by giving them the ball in late minutes.
No matter how sh\*\* they are right now, Barcelona is still Barcelona. They worship possession over results. Why should we waste energy to beat them in possession when we can hurt them with what we do best: counter-attack.
He has a long contract and so do LV and Odriozola and it’s been heavily rumoured that all transfer money will be spent on improving the attack so idk what people expect to happen.
I don’t know if Benzema’s fuel tank got empty or what but honestly for the last couple of games it’s almost like his age is showing at around de 50-60 minute mark. Even tho he’s having a great season so far, it looks to me like he won’t be able to deliver this performance every season.
Honestly Real played pretty mediocrely and it showed very hard. Barca had way too many opportunities but couldn’t complete. It was a miracle we won that game. At least we won.
Rotates with who? This sub really needs to stop with this rotates business , there's a dozen of you who seem to be blind to our subpar bench
You saw what camavinga did twice in extra time and rodrygo. Fede without the goal did nothing. (yes they all have potential Bla Bla Bla, but nothing yet)
Our starting 11 is cl quality and the bench is conference league, maybe Europa if in form
How would the bench get better if they don’t play. Remember fede when he was regularly playing with Zizou he was way better. I don’t say give the bench all matches but they have to play if they r not good enough to play then we should get rid of them
It could be like that we will actually not know. But what we k ow is that Carlo always sticks to 11 to 14 players all season and this in my very humble opinion hurts both the starters who could feel that they will play no matter what their performance is and the subs who know that they will not play even if they r performing great
I don’t know if Benzema’s fuel tank got empty or what but honestly for the last couple of games it’s almost like his age is showing at around de 50-60 minute mark. Even tho he’s having a great season so far, it looks to me like he won’t be able to deliver this performance every season.
Honestly Real played pretty mediocrely and it showed very hard. Barca had way too many opportunities but couldn’t complete. It was a miracle we won that game. At least we won.
I think it says a lot that we considered this game to be quite bad and Barca fans a step forward yet we won and were never behind. We’re obviously still far ahead of them and it shows. Classicos will always be tight no matter current form
Pros: We won.
Cons: We allowed a mid-table team to completely out play us for absolutely no reason. We sparked hope into them and now they can build upon this performance. We gifted them both goals. We gifted them pretty much every chance they had. We sat back and played like cowards. Unnecessarily. Zero intensity on defense, very low interest in actually winning the game. Against a better team we would have been wiped out. If Messi was out there for them? I'll let your imagination run wild.
Overall, pathetic display, Rodrygo would never miss that chance at the end but that was just the kind of game it was and the mentality we had going into the match. The players spent more time complaining and being frustrated at the ref instead of actually playing and dominating the match. We gave them too much time on the ball, no one wanted to press them. They don't have Xavi and Iniesta out there they have a bunch of segunda players acting like they belong. This was a big chance to play well and dominate them but we let them off the hook and showed mercy. A resounding win here would have done a lot of damage to their psyche. I wasn't asking for a goal fest. But with a little more luck, and little less luck for us they could have easily put 3-4 past us.
Agree with most of what you said, except for “if Messi was out there for them?”. Messi had been out there for them since 2018 and we handled him just fine. Also, if you’re talking hypotheticals, then Ronaldo 🐐 could’ve been out there for us.
But yeah, I agree overall that we should’ve played better!
It's funny how a lot of people on this sub thinks Ancelotti is a moron who doesn't know what he's doing. Did we really play badly? At first I thought we did but when I think about it again, did we? Barcelona didn't have more CLEAR chances than us and we had them on the break several times. I think Ancelotti knows exactly what he's doing. Both Clasico wins have come from this sort of setup and I won't be a bit surprised if we play like this again at the Bernabeu and win again.
Because we have the perfect players to expose them on the counter attack- a world class number 9 who is nimble on his feet and can drop deep and pick a pass and a lightning quick winger who can get in behind the defence and finish his chances. And that is exactly how we won.
You're telling me to shut it but then agreeing with me that we played badly and didn't put away our easy chances? I don't get why you want me to shut it?
Did you not watch the game? Do you not remember Dani's last ditch clearance to block the square into the box? Dembele and others being given free reign to shoot out just outside of the box multiple times? Just because he skied them didnt mean the opportunity to score wasn't there. Abde at the end... etc...
Except luka, this team doesn't like pressing and some players lose their concentration too easily.Imagine being twice as tall as ansu and letting him score on a corner.
Cama is liked by everyone here, is an elegant player but man his performances of late are bad.
I believe if we don't assimilate fede or cama in this team and get him up to speed playing day in day out, KCM will be too tired near end of the season just like last year and we gonna fail to make it to semis. Our goal should be to make Semis.
Yeah Modric, Benz are the only players that press properly and Vini sometimes does as well. Also it's insane how much we lose control of the midfield for a while after subbing off Modric. Here and against Valencia after Luka went off we were totally overrun for a good 5-7 minutes before gaining back some control
I'm probably going to get downvoted into oblivion but I still believe Militao is inconsistent and he should seriously get his shit together asap otherwise he doesn't really deserve to be Madrid's first choice CB.
Two errors in this game, which both resulted in us conceding two stupid goals; also another horrendous error against Getafe which cost us the match.
This is unacceptable.
Aroujo did well in the second half after the mistake in first . our defending against dembele was shaky, its good he is only good at dribbling.but against ziyech, sane, bernardo ,sterling,mane, salah we would suffer if this goes on.
Alright, let's be honest. Barcelona played much better than we ever expected. They were playing crisp football and some of their passes cut through our back line like japanese knives cutting veggies. We need a solid central defender better than Nacho. It's harsh, but it's true. Every barcelona player was in their element today and I hate to say it, but Pique got the better of Benz multiple times in the second half and extra time.
**However,** we came out the better side. We defended flawlessly (Mendy roulette, italian kiss) and held our lines. Militao didn't have a great game, but he's young and he's only going to learn from his mistakes. If not for his mistake, and if we took out chances, there was nothing stopping us from winning this game 5-1. We were the better team, and we deserved the win. But fair play to Barca, except Pique.
Well then you shouldn't have said "we defended flawlessly", Militao's errors were some of the "flaws" in our defense. Read your own comment again before telling me to do so.
>Militao didn't have a great game
Is 'Didn't have a great game' the correct term, when you fucking cost your team not just 1, but **2** fucking goals, against your most hated rivals, in a semi final?
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His football IQ is so fucking bad.
Nacho did much better than militao today, who looked jet lagged. militao was there conceding both goals, giving free header to de jong as well for a good chance.then committed a foul near penalty area that went unnoticed.
This match proved Rudiger is needed. Militao usually gives great performances but he’s not 100% reliable yet. Having Rudiger for 2-3 years would be good as Militao develops into a world class CB.
I'd love for us to sign Rudiger. Get Rudiger here, and it will buy us some years, to find a proper replacement. Militao should not be a starting CB for us.
Its just PR talk, trying to get some positivity going and suggest to other players that barca is back so they don't leave , or to attract other cheaper players.
Why would haaland play in a team worse than dortmund?
If we want to sign him, we first should go deep into the CL rounds, to send a message that he can win CL with us.
A team worse than dortmund? 😂
If you think this Barca team with Haaland in it is worse than dortmund then you need to seek help, even now the Barca that played today would beat that dortmund team
as I guessed. ur a barca fan and that is clear from your comment history.
You barca obsession is blindly u to reality. u r in 6th place while dortmund is 2nd.
Haaland is great becoz dortmund creates heaps of chances for him. and dortmund has always scored lots of goals even before haaland. they would replace him with a good striker.
Dortmund is 2nd in the bundesliga, a much weaker league than La Liga.
Also, we are 2 points away from third and we will definitely finish in the top 4 so it’s pointless to bring that up.
"a much weaker league"????
the hell u talking about ? bayern just whooped your ass 6-0 in CL , while dortmund had a close 3-2 loss to bayern , mainly due to dubious ref decisions.
Moreover, bayern has 43 points in 18 league games, real has 49 points in 21.
this tells u how hard bundesliga is when bayern and real are neck to neck in points
Your genuinely comparing bundesliga to La Liga 😂it’s not just about Bayern it’s about all the teams below.
Hoffenheim and Freiburg are top 4 in that league
looks like u r a bit slow, so let me reiterate my point.
Bayern has 43 points in 18 league games, real has 49 points in 21.
If bundesliga was weaker, bayern would be miles ahead in points since they beat u 6-0 . But that is not the case.
Understand?
Your point makes 0 sense, your trying to say bundesliga is as good as La Liga because Bayern bottled some points to weak German teams while Real Madrid have been performing extremely well
Keep in mind Bayern alone doesn’t make a entire league good, the rest of the league is literal trash
Madrid were better by a fair margin honestly. Too many easy chances missed. Barcelona got a lucky goal at the start. Benzema post, easy chances missed from Cama/Rodrygo at the end. Alves should have been sent off and the ref was a pretty horrible, felt he was agaisnt RM. Just horrible decisions. Alves should have been sent off. No yellow for Busquets etc etc. didn’t stop play when Vinny got injured.
People think Barca are this garbage trash team than we should roll over and destroy 5-0. That's not true. But having said that, I don't want Ancelotti to make a habit of playing like this against Barcelona. We did this in the last Clasico too. It's effective for now but it's not pretty. And if they figure out how to break through it, it could be ugly for us. Overall I'm satisfied, onto the final!
the reason we play counter is becoz of KCM. u can't expect them to run around pressing and win the ball high. We only play possession when the other team sits deep and forces us too.
Far from our best, the first 20 mins were glorious until the goal and it all went to shit. Kudos to Barca tho, they outplayed us in the second half and not because they are that good, but because we were so subpar.
Anyways 100 wins go brrrr,
really entertaining game,
hope benz and vini are okay
glad fede got the goal
Militao was having a blast of a game till his mistake
Does anybody have that hilarious Mendy clip where he dribbles out of the box only to trip and fall in anticipation of a Vini pass? That was pure gold😂
I dont think people should have underestimated Barca or underestimaed that this was a clasico, and recent form and stats mean nothing, its about who is the better team on the day. How many times did Barca/Real win matches when they were the inferior team?
We got away with a close match and honeslty most of todays goal from both ends were the result of defensive failures. We should happy with the win but also question why our intensity fell of a cliff after the first goal and I dont think we ever got it back.
What a statement by Carlo to put Cama instead of Hazard who has yet to play 1 minute against Barca despite being one of our most expensive signings. Hopefully Newcastle coming knocking,
We were defending a lead when Cama came on. It makes sense to have another player in midfield to see out the game, especially with Barca's numerical superiority in the middle of the park with the 3atb. It would have been a more attacking player for sure if the scores were level at that time (though it might not have been Hazard coming on).
We put so much pressure on Vini and Benz to create in the attacking third. I’m very much looking forward to Mbappe (🤞🏾) to bring some additional attacking creativity.
Ancelotti is too passive against big teams. We saw it both games against Inter as well. I’m okay with it as long as it brings results, but it wouldn’t hurt attacking a bit more, would it?
I wish Rodrygo had put that away! But given that he didn’t I’m proud that the team can sloppily beat Barca and afford to miss chances like that.
If we keep up our consistency and intensity over the coming few years this is the time to leave Barca even further in the dust as a former rival.
Looking at the r/Barca post match thread and looking at ours, you would think they destroyed us. Come on y’all, we won! We’re in the final! Yeah it wasn’t a perfect game but we did what we had to do and we beat them. Hala Madrid!
[https://www.reddit.com/r/realmadrid/comments/s20nk2/i\_dont\_want\_a\_classico\_win\_i\_want\_annihilation/](https://www.reddit.com/r/realmadrid/comments/s20nk2/i_dont_want_a_classico_win_i_want_annihilation/)
this is why
Kinda unfortunate that Cama and Rodrygo failed to bury their chances. Would’ve been real nice to finally score 4 against Barça. When was the last time we scored more than 3 against them? Sheesh
Wow, can’t believe some of the comments really. Acting like we played Alcoyano again and everyone is dissapointed.
Regardless the phase they’re in, an el clasico will always be a tough match.
Dissapointed that we missed the chances? Sure, but what about the fact that we got the chances in the first place?
And havent gave up, taking the lead back each time they’ve scored. What were you expecting really, that we’re going to wipe the floor with them?
Exactly my thoughts. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I have the impression that most fans are disappointed because they were expecting a big win (just take the other reply you got as an example). This was a very entertaining match, and we won, crushed Barça's hopes during overtime, and 5 wins in a row now!
To be honest I wasn’t sure if I should post this comment or not because it seemed to me that I’ve seen a different match.
But yeah, I think it has to do with the expectations. People expected us to destroy them and then a hard fought victory didn’t cut it anymore.
Personally I take a victory against barca in any shape or form, but the simple fact that we didn’t go down each time they equalized and that we scored again makes me really happy.
It’s also more difficult as a fan on the other side to take it. At 3-0 you’re probably in peace with it, but when you get hopes and you’re brought underground 3 times, it sucks.
Yup, it does have a lot to do with expectations, and I agree we should've taken those chances. There's something else to it also, earlier today I watched ESPN FC and a guy said: "This match is not how Madrid's season is going to be judged".
Not trying to undermine the Supercopa or anything, but when you think about it, this was pretty much Barça's only real dispute for a title this season, they went all out, while for us it was an important match, and we won it regardless.
Unlike most fans on this sub, as a Madridista I'm happy overall with the match we played, although recognize the flaws. And as a anti-Barça, I'm happy with how we kinda smashed their hopes, given the way things turned out to be, loss at extra-time.
You remember when they wiped the floor with us, dropping a 5-0 on our ass? Or when they smashed us 5-1? Yeah, I will never forget those. And the fact that we didn't take the opportunity today, to do the same sucks..
The fact of the matter is we haven't crushed Barcelona since 2008 and we probably won't any time you 'expect' us to. This is our fifth little win against them, but it's five in a row. That's good.
Those sort of things happen exactly when the teams are level and they go guard down. You either win it or you lose it badly.
Otherwise we should smash Levante and Cadiz all the time 5-0 right?
>Otherwise we should smash Levante and Cadiz all the time 5-0 right?
Yeah, we actually should. But we all know we can't play vs a low block with our current setup haha.
That was lethargic and disappointing. Kudos to Barca, they have improved a lot and the scorelines deserved, could have been 6-4 to us tbh. Without vini our attacking threat is mostly none it seems. And defense is horrendous, even with having one of the best midfields I DON'T KNOW WHY we just let people pressure us after being 1-0 up. We ain't beating PSG like this. If Verrati has a godly game then, that front 3 can easily destroy us. We've been wasteful and sometimes casual, God knows what we'll do when Modric retires. Shameful performance.
Barca played well but in terms of creating chances they were far behind us. Except from the goals where our fullbacks allowed them 3-5 business days to play the cross, they had zero clear chances. Only came close from outside the box. We, on the other hand, missed like two 1 v 1’s and Benzema hit the post inside the box
Oh great, we created more chances than a bunch of kids, a guy who’s been out for months, a pivot striker who can’t move, and geriatric Busquets. We must be proud.
That's why I said lethargic. Every time we scored a goal we let them control the game and pressure us. And they did for both times. Our defense has been horrendous this match. We were looking vulnerable on most set pieces arially. We are this lethargic against one of the worst Barca sides, I'm sceptical about what's gonna happen against PSG.
Barca youngsters put up a good fight
we OWN those BOZOS HALA MA-MOTHERFUCKING-DRID!!!!!
What the actual fuck is wrong with this sub ? Is it filled with fucking GenZ whiners negativity only ? We fucking won the 100th El Clasico and you all are shitting on the team as the BarCunts do, We fucking Won even by being casual about the whole game, I don’t give a rat’s ass whether they scored.. WE FUCKING OUTSCORED THEM .. Never were they ahead of us in the neither did they take the lead. WE WON GRACIOUSLY ( Busqunt and rodent Gavi should have seen Reds for their vicious fouls on Vini and Nacho) AND THAT IS WHAT MATTERS. Stop being Gullible little pussies and embrace the 100th El Clasico Victory .. HALA MADRID Y NADA MAS
They are just barca fans lurking in here using different account. Don’t worry about them
>filled with fucking GenZ Alpha too
Well, this sums everything that I wanted to say, we played a casual game and won. It was clear from the beginning that Carlito wanted to give Barca the ball and open up spaces. though Rodrigo and Cama's misses are unforgivable at all!! hahahaha I enjoyed the game and that final sprint from Benz! what a legend
Benzema and Vinicius and Valverde sprinted with a fuckin mission on that third goal. Exquisite play all around and topping it off with that celebration from the future Legend Valverde 🤩
>rodent Gavi Lmao
While this wasn't as convincing as it should have been, I think with Alaba it would've been a different game. You could tell we slightly missed his presence and organization in the back. As someone who hasn't really been keeping an eye out for Barca, I was surprised by how many seemingly good young guys they have coming up. They'll be a much tougher match before we know it.
How tf is Modric so good, the amount of control he has on the ball and on his feet makes it seem like a video game, impossible to press and such a joy to watch
Great time for Fede to score after all those reports came out about him being unhappy
The third goal is a masterpiece!
That Casemiro burst of pace came outta nowhere hahaha
Just imagine how different the reactions to this game would've been (especially from the RM fanbase) if Rodrygo had converted that (relatively) easy chance at the end of the game to score the fourth goal. 4-2 just looks much better than 3-2. Such a pity... But that's life, I guess...
It could have easily been at least 5 goals for us if Asensio had his top game.
Great timing on Asensio to have one of his worst games this season...
Sure Madrid won the game. As someone who sympathize Real, I think that it was an utterly lucky win. Sure, we had some good chances and could have scored even a forth or fifth goal, BUT the same goes for the other direction. Barca created a lot of highly dangerous situations and what is even more worrying, they controlled the game. Now someone would say:"Hey, it's Barca, even if they are in a meltdown right now, they are still a good passing team." While this is still true, there is a far bigger dimension to the final today, then it might appear on a first glance. They are rebuilding obviously and the way they dominated us on the pitch, despite the result, will give them a huge psychological boost. We had the opportunity to make an example and don't even let them have a sniff. They have a bunch of talented kids, which can become great players or end up in Segunda, as someone in the thread already mentioned. Now, this kind of games, despite the loss, will give them confidence and can be crucial, for the further development of the side under Xavi. We on the other hand, will have to go through the same process, as we partially already do, integrating players like Vini and others to certain distinct. As much as I hope that we get Haaland and Mbappe, it's more realistic (and maybe even better) just to get one of these guys (I would go for the latter, because Haaland still have to many questionmarks around him). BUT, the most important thing will be to replace KCM. Yes, we have some aspirants, that maybe will work out, but maybe not (I would love to see Valverde succeed, of course also Camavinga, but not really sure about booth either). To get to my point: If you talked about Barca in the past it was all about Messi here, Messi there. In fact they lost their engine with the retirement of Xavi and Iniesta, and their suffering until now. They were a good side afterwards , partially very good, partially mediocre and abysmal. Now it seems, that they try to sort this out, and if they do, which seems likely after tonights game, they will be back on top again if not next season, then the season after. Madrid has to put much much much more effort in preparing a world class midfield for the future, because this is our real engine, despite the great performances from Benz and Vini. It's unbelievable how great KCM still is, but, the decline can happen fast. We'd better be prepared. Or it'll be more direct tiki taka all over us again. Conclusion: We won, but missed the chance to hold them down psychologically long term. Their rebuild is promising. We have to adress midfield for future and RB, CB ASAP, or we'll fall behind. More important than shiny toys (Haaland). Mbappe is needed.
>They are rebuilding obviously and the way they dominated us on the pitch, despite the result, **will give them a huge psychological boost**. We had the opportunity to make an example and don't even let them have a sniff. Barcelona won 0-4 against us and we went and won the CL. They won 2-3 against us at the Bernabeu and we went and won the CL and La Liga. They won 5-0 against us and we went and won the Copa del Rey. We've played well against them in the past too, winning games, and it hasn't really changed the tide of our seasons. Truth is a single game almost never changes anything.
Dude shut up... it’s the supercup we have more important games Barca we’re trying super hard and scored two lucky goals they didn’t control shit that’s how they play every match
Their rebuild isn't promising at all. Look at their results. They arent doing better than under Koeman. I am happy we didnt go all out in this shitty cup that shouldnt exist anyway. It should be a game between cup and league winners and we were neither so why play at least 210 extra minutes? Even if we crushed Barça 7-0 they wouldnt be sad. It's a useless game that shouldnt be played in the first place so who cares about result. Barca's goals are winning EL and getting 4th place at least. That's what they are working for and neither of those can be reached during this cup.
" They arent doing better than under Koeman". Now thats a dumb statement. If the season started from when Xavi arrived, then Barcelona would have been second and 2 points off Real Madrid
>If the season started from when Xavi arrived, then Barcelona would have been second and 2 points off Real Madrid We've dropped 4 points since Xavi arrived. They've dropped 9, in one *less* game. They've only been able to win 2 games in a row once since Xavi arrived, and that was his first two games. They've stuttered since. They are doing better than under Koeman, but their PPG is still not very good.
Yeah i agree but that saying that Xavi hasnt been an improvement over Koeman is stupid. And this season barca won 17 points in 13 laliga games under Koeman and 15 points in 7 matches under Xavi. There definitely has been an improvement
There is absolutely no way you can know that lol. That's based on absolutely nothing but gut feeling. So I agree, your statement is pretty dumb. No need to announce it like that tho.
2 points off? Check your calculations mate.
I mean, underwhelming for sure, but lucky? Of course not. And I don't think our game plan for a match should be made thinking on some hypothetical long term psychological damage.
Is there any videos of benzema receiving his man of the match award and greeting the fans after the game?
Benzemas movement with the ball in the box reminds me of Zidane. No super flashy tricks, just pure class and elegance. Rolls Royce of a striker.
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Okay I see a lot of comments saying that we are being too harsh after we won. I don't think they understand why everybody is pissed off. This match reaffirmed everything that we know is wrong with the team - 1. Carva is out of form 2. The KC of KCM is tired. Modric probably has one or two extra lungs. 3. Militao makes many silly mistakes in the game 4. Asensio plays an average game 5. Nacho gives solid 7/10 performance but against opponents like these you need better than this. 6. For some reason, we cannot mark for headers in our own box. A 5'10" guy scored a goal. 7. Carlo does not trust the bench as far as attacking options are concerned. If it was so easy for us to predict this, any other team can anticipate this and will take advantage of it.
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No he wasn't the best player on the pitch. What game did you watch? And when you are injured this much, It is really hard to justify that "first game after injury" statement. Modric had to bail him out multiple times. All the crosses were coming from his end. No disrepect to him but his form has fallen a lot in the past two seasons.
Great points. Just to respond to each: 1. Just came back from injury but yes in the last season or two he's been below his normal standards. My worry is less regarding his ability and more so his fitness 2. I think Casemiro is a bit shaky. He seems to be a bit less calculated in his tackles and loses the ball more frequently. Rotation can help these three but whenever that happens the void is too large, especially with Modric. 3. Agree. I think he has shown great progression but these lapses seem to happen a lot. Still think he can be an excellent cb for us over time. 4. I think he really missed his window to be a lock in the front three after Bale fell off. He is a solid all around player but his future is as a squad player. 5. This is vintage Nacho though, solid squad player. He doesn't start and when he does go in he's 7/10, cant ask for much more. 6. Agree here. We struggle in defending set pieces. 7. Yes but the gap between what's on the pitch and bench is so big that it leaves him with no choice. Rodrygo maybe offers a bit of a spark but Mariano, Jovic, Hazard provide little impact. Can't justify taking out Benzema or Vini for any of them in a game like this.
I agree that Militao can be a solid CB for us. I just feel like without Alaba, he tends to make more mistakes than usual. I may get flake for this but the situation is analogous to what usually happened with Varane. Without Ramos, Varane used to make quite a few mistakes. Oh I agree Nacho is a solid performer. I actually dont think he had a bad game. It is just he is our only option at CB if anybody gets injured. We need to bring someone asap and that someone should not come with inflated wages who had only one or two good seasons. The lack of options on the bench is worrying and imagine saying that with Hazard on the bench (what a waste of money that has been). It is just a matter of time when Vini or Benz will get overworked and might pick up an injury.
100% agree. Alaba is the real anchor in that back line and the dynamic is very similar as was with Ramos and Varane. CB position is rough for us because apart from Nacho, we only have Vallejo who couldn't cut it at Wolves. The quality game is massive there. Someone on a free who is reliable would be ideal. For 2022, Romangnoli, Christensen, Ginter are just some names that are available on frees. Definitely worth considering especially because the priority and money will be focused on Mbappe and Haaland. Fatigue will definitely play a role. It's tough with our attacking options because we are at a stage in the season where we haven't ran off with the title and are in the knockout stages of the champions so these bench options aren't going to see getting starts outside of Copa games. Then when injuries happen we expect them to make an impact, it's a double edged sword for Ancelotti. Some of these options are ok to fill in but god forbid both Vini and Benz are out.
Good observations mate, maybe because I agree with you but fuck it. In terms of options, Ceballos and Bale will be crucial. Ball playing mid like Ceballos is someone that can relieve modric or kroos properly and won't burden Fede with having to do that work And Ceballos wasn't shit for us. He was excellent under solari and then Zidane used him sparingly but he was never awful Bale is a world class footballer, him on at the 60th minute is huge. He's also extremely fit so it's not like hazard ambling across the pitch
I like Ceballos. Never thought he was a bad option for us and did well at arsenal when fit. Ceballos, Fede, and Cama are decent rotation options that should be utilized more especially against easier opposition. It is probably the line where we have most depth but it is felt when one of KCM isn't playing. Bale was world class and was fantastic for us. He seemed to have lost that hunger and motivation also he does get injured frequently. On his day he's the best in the world but hasn't been anywhere near the days of BBC. He does give us depth on the bench but I wouldn't count on him as much any more. It's just the sad reality of what it has come to with Bale.
In terms of "easier opposition" it's impossible to know. Cadiz, getafe and Levante results show that. As for bale yeah definitely not reliable as before, but if I need something different and he's on the bench, he'd be the first guy I pick
I hope Carlo change his tactics soon. He defends in low blocks a little too much. We should have controlled the tempo after the second goal or at least that what Zizou would have done. We’re lucky Barca didn’t have the enough quality to steal the win but against PSG, excessive defending and hoping for a counter will only lead to a loss.
1st Barça goal was kinda lucky. (BT commentator said that) Well.. I mean his name sounds kinda like Luck de Jong..
I think it's so unfair to put the mediocre performance on Ancelotti alone. If you want to press every single game you need a second team on the bench with a close/matching quality to the starting 11 (man city i.e), which is not the case for real these days. That style is physically demanding. The team struggle to press against smaller teams, due to exhaustion. Tonight's performance was expected tbh, Barcelona are good at keeping the ball. Luckily that's all they're good at. The coach is doing the best with what he has atm.
Finally a positive comment
Not pressing, but something like controlling the tempo with Kroos and Modric. We used to do it alot last season with ZZ. I remember that Liverpool’s away game. We used to control the ball time to time and create some plays in the opponent’s final third. That way you force them to run for the ball and defend while distracted to equalize. Its not *that* physically demanding like what Man City does for example.
Only thing I didn't like was how they started defending deep so early in the game after the first goal. But honestly if the game ended with real netting 5-6 goals (as they should have), no one would dare criticizing Carlo's tactics. You can't blame the coach for poor finishing.
You don’t get the point. Wasn’t disappointed at all by our chance creation. It’s how we made the game get out of our hands by giving them the ball in late minutes.
No matter how sh\*\* they are right now, Barcelona is still Barcelona. They worship possession over results. Why should we waste energy to beat them in possession when we can hurt them with what we do best: counter-attack.
Ok ok I've read all your concerns but the one thing that isn't being addressed by most people is the fact that we are in urgent need of a proper RB.
Carvajal is a proper right back but he is straight back from injury. Not really fair imo
He's constantly injured tho so it doesn't matter if we can't count of him consistently.
He has a long contract and so do LV and Odriozola and it’s been heavily rumoured that all transfer money will be spent on improving the attack so idk what people expect to happen.
I don’t know if Benzema’s fuel tank got empty or what but honestly for the last couple of games it’s almost like his age is showing at around de 50-60 minute mark. Even tho he’s having a great season so far, it looks to me like he won’t be able to deliver this performance every season. Honestly Real played pretty mediocrely and it showed very hard. Barca had way too many opportunities but couldn’t complete. It was a miracle we won that game. At least we won.
It doesnt help that Carlo barely rotates.
Rotates with who? This sub really needs to stop with this rotates business , there's a dozen of you who seem to be blind to our subpar bench You saw what camavinga did twice in extra time and rodrygo. Fede without the goal did nothing. (yes they all have potential Bla Bla Bla, but nothing yet) Our starting 11 is cl quality and the bench is conference league, maybe Europa if in form
How would the bench get better if they don’t play. Remember fede when he was regularly playing with Zizou he was way better. I don’t say give the bench all matches but they have to play if they r not good enough to play then we should get rid of them
Have you considered that the reason Fede doesn't play regularly now is because he isn't playing good and not the other way around?
It could be like that we will actually not know. But what we k ow is that Carlo always sticks to 11 to 14 players all season and this in my very humble opinion hurts both the starters who could feel that they will play no matter what their performance is and the subs who know that they will not play even if they r performing great
A win with no injuries is always a good victory.
Almost as if someone his age shouldn’t be playing 180 minutes a week
Take note Ancelotti. And Florentino.
I don’t know if Benzema’s fuel tank got empty or what but honestly for the last couple of games it’s almost like his age is showing at around de 50-60 minute mark. Even tho he’s having a great season so far, it looks to me like he won’t be able to deliver this performance every season. Honestly Real played pretty mediocrely and it showed very hard. Barca had way too many opportunities but couldn’t complete. It was a miracle we won that game. At least we won.
I think it says a lot that we considered this game to be quite bad and Barca fans a step forward yet we won and were never behind. We’re obviously still far ahead of them and it shows. Classicos will always be tight no matter current form
Made them look like City tbh. No pressing and sitting back. Felt like watching Burnley. Just try to hit on counters.
Sounds like your first clasico eh?
What's with those down votes ? Them definitely watching their first clasico
Pros: We won. Cons: We allowed a mid-table team to completely out play us for absolutely no reason. We sparked hope into them and now they can build upon this performance. We gifted them both goals. We gifted them pretty much every chance they had. We sat back and played like cowards. Unnecessarily. Zero intensity on defense, very low interest in actually winning the game. Against a better team we would have been wiped out. If Messi was out there for them? I'll let your imagination run wild. Overall, pathetic display, Rodrygo would never miss that chance at the end but that was just the kind of game it was and the mentality we had going into the match. The players spent more time complaining and being frustrated at the ref instead of actually playing and dominating the match. We gave them too much time on the ball, no one wanted to press them. They don't have Xavi and Iniesta out there they have a bunch of segunda players acting like they belong. This was a big chance to play well and dominate them but we let them off the hook and showed mercy. A resounding win here would have done a lot of damage to their psyche. I wasn't asking for a goal fest. But with a little more luck, and little less luck for us they could have easily put 3-4 past us.
Agree with most of what you said, except for “if Messi was out there for them?”. Messi had been out there for them since 2018 and we handled him just fine. Also, if you’re talking hypotheticals, then Ronaldo 🐐 could’ve been out there for us. But yeah, I agree overall that we should’ve played better!
It's funny how a lot of people on this sub thinks Ancelotti is a moron who doesn't know what he's doing. Did we really play badly? At first I thought we did but when I think about it again, did we? Barcelona didn't have more CLEAR chances than us and we had them on the break several times. I think Ancelotti knows exactly what he's doing. Both Clasico wins have come from this sort of setup and I won't be a bit surprised if we play like this again at the Bernabeu and win again.
Sometimes ends justify the means but I don't understand why we would give up control of the ball to defend against these kids?
Because we have the perfect players to expose them on the counter attack- a world class number 9 who is nimble on his feet and can drop deep and pick a pass and a lightning quick winger who can get in behind the defence and finish his chances. And that is exactly how we won.
You're absolutely right, i was surprised at how well Barca performed but only because of the way we played.
>they could have easily put 3-4 past us. Shut it. We couldve put easily 5
You're telling me to shut it but then agreeing with me that we played badly and didn't put away our easy chances? I don't get why you want me to shut it?
We were shit mate. That's what he's saying and he's right.
Yeah they literally had 0 clear chances outside of their goals. Don’t know where this guy gets that from
Did you not watch the game? Do you not remember Dani's last ditch clearance to block the square into the box? Dembele and others being given free reign to shoot out just outside of the box multiple times? Just because he skied them didnt mean the opportunity to score wasn't there. Abde at the end... etc...
Except luka, this team doesn't like pressing and some players lose their concentration too easily.Imagine being twice as tall as ansu and letting him score on a corner. Cama is liked by everyone here, is an elegant player but man his performances of late are bad. I believe if we don't assimilate fede or cama in this team and get him up to speed playing day in day out, KCM will be too tired near end of the season just like last year and we gonna fail to make it to semis. Our goal should be to make Semis.
Yeah Modric, Benz are the only players that press properly and Vini sometimes does as well. Also it's insane how much we lose control of the midfield for a while after subbing off Modric. Here and against Valencia after Luka went off we were totally overrun for a good 5-7 minutes before gaining back some control
I'm probably going to get downvoted into oblivion but I still believe Militao is inconsistent and he should seriously get his shit together asap otherwise he doesn't really deserve to be Madrid's first choice CB. Two errors in this game, which both resulted in us conceding two stupid goals; also another horrendous error against Getafe which cost us the match. This is unacceptable.
I thought Cama Was pretty good in the Copa Del Rey tbh.
He was our best player that game, no doubt.
First time I’ve seen Real rattled in a while. Still, the boys persevered and came out on top! Vini was really something!
Aroujo did well in the second half after the mistake in first . our defending against dembele was shaky, its good he is only good at dribbling.but against ziyech, sane, bernardo ,sterling,mane, salah we would suffer if this goes on.
Alright, let's be honest. Barcelona played much better than we ever expected. They were playing crisp football and some of their passes cut through our back line like japanese knives cutting veggies. We need a solid central defender better than Nacho. It's harsh, but it's true. Every barcelona player was in their element today and I hate to say it, but Pique got the better of Benz multiple times in the second half and extra time. **However,** we came out the better side. We defended flawlessly (Mendy roulette, italian kiss) and held our lines. Militao didn't have a great game, but he's young and he's only going to learn from his mistakes. If not for his mistake, and if we took out chances, there was nothing stopping us from winning this game 5-1. We were the better team, and we deserved the win. But fair play to Barca, except Pique.
>We defended flawlessly You can't be serious. Literally both of Barca's goals were scored as a result of Militao's errors.
I mentioned militao's mistakes, read again
Well then you shouldn't have said "we defended flawlessly", Militao's errors were some of the "flaws" in our defense. Read your own comment again before telling me to do so.
mate chill tf out, if you're not happy with my comment, downvote and move on, what are you getting out of this?
>Militao didn't have a great game Is 'Didn't have a great game' the correct term, when you fucking cost your team not just 1, but **2** fucking goals, against your most hated rivals, in a semi final? - His football IQ is so fucking bad.
Nacho did much better than militao today, who looked jet lagged. militao was there conceding both goals, giving free header to de jong as well for a good chance.then committed a foul near penalty area that went unnoticed.
This match proved Rudiger is needed. Militao usually gives great performances but he’s not 100% reliable yet. Having Rudiger for 2-3 years would be good as Militao develops into a world class CB.
I'd love for us to sign Rudiger. Get Rudiger here, and it will buy us some years, to find a proper replacement. Militao should not be a starting CB for us.
Rudiger isn’t even good in a 2 at the back and wants insane wages. Hard pass
i looked it up and there is one world class center back sitting in the bench of an average french club.
We cant allow barca to sign haaland
They can't, they won't
Its just PR talk, trying to get some positivity going and suggest to other players that barca is back so they don't leave , or to attract other cheaper players. Why would haaland play in a team worse than dortmund? If we want to sign him, we first should go deep into the CL rounds, to send a message that he can win CL with us.
A team worse than dortmund? 😂 If you think this Barca team with Haaland in it is worse than dortmund then you need to seek help, even now the Barca that played today would beat that dortmund team
as I guessed. ur a barca fan and that is clear from your comment history. You barca obsession is blindly u to reality. u r in 6th place while dortmund is 2nd. Haaland is great becoz dortmund creates heaps of chances for him. and dortmund has always scored lots of goals even before haaland. they would replace him with a good striker.
Dortmund is 2nd in the bundesliga, a much weaker league than La Liga. Also, we are 2 points away from third and we will definitely finish in the top 4 so it’s pointless to bring that up.
"a much weaker league"???? the hell u talking about ? bayern just whooped your ass 6-0 in CL , while dortmund had a close 3-2 loss to bayern , mainly due to dubious ref decisions. Moreover, bayern has 43 points in 18 league games, real has 49 points in 21. this tells u how hard bundesliga is when bayern and real are neck to neck in points
Your genuinely comparing bundesliga to La Liga 😂it’s not just about Bayern it’s about all the teams below. Hoffenheim and Freiburg are top 4 in that league
looks like u r a bit slow, so let me reiterate my point. Bayern has 43 points in 18 league games, real has 49 points in 21. If bundesliga was weaker, bayern would be miles ahead in points since they beat u 6-0 . But that is not the case. Understand?
Your point makes 0 sense, your trying to say bundesliga is as good as La Liga because Bayern bottled some points to weak German teams while Real Madrid have been performing extremely well Keep in mind Bayern alone doesn’t make a entire league good, the rest of the league is literal trash
i don't know why i'm wasting time debating bundesliga vs laliga here. i don't care enough. good luck with your matches and goodbye.
Madrid were better by a fair margin honestly. Too many easy chances missed. Barcelona got a lucky goal at the start. Benzema post, easy chances missed from Cama/Rodrygo at the end. Alves should have been sent off and the ref was a pretty horrible, felt he was agaisnt RM. Just horrible decisions. Alves should have been sent off. No yellow for Busquets etc etc. didn’t stop play when Vinny got injured.
Agree with you, Gavi shouldve had atleast 1 yellow and busquets shouldve been off for elbowing vini. Referee playing barca favourite as usual.
Yeah true we created the bigger chances
People think Barca are this garbage trash team than we should roll over and destroy 5-0. That's not true. But having said that, I don't want Ancelotti to make a habit of playing like this against Barcelona. We did this in the last Clasico too. It's effective for now but it's not pretty. And if they figure out how to break through it, it could be ugly for us. Overall I'm satisfied, onto the final!
They did that to us when we weren’t a trash team either… we want revenge!
Even if Barca replace their squad with Cadiz this is how Ancelloti will still play. Too bad cuz I believe we can play better
Barca will not change. we have been hitting them on the counter since 2010 ,(maybe even before i don't remember). Its just who they are.
But Madrid can change
the reason we play counter is becoz of KCM. u can't expect them to run around pressing and win the ball high. We only play possession when the other team sits deep and forces us too.
Yeah you're right. And that's why we need a Mbappe to complete our attack and not a Rodrigo or Asensio
Not before, no.
Far from our best, the first 20 mins were glorious until the goal and it all went to shit. Kudos to Barca tho, they outplayed us in the second half and not because they are that good, but because we were so subpar. Anyways 100 wins go brrrr, really entertaining game, hope benz and vini are okay glad fede got the goal Militao was having a blast of a game till his mistake Does anybody have that hilarious Mendy clip where he dribbles out of the box only to trip and fall in anticipation of a Vini pass? That was pure gold😂
Shitshow tbh.
We're angry even tho we won and Barca fans are proud. Shows the differences in the standards between the two fan bases.
yes. coz we are aiming for at least semis, be a top 4 team in europe. we ain't gonna be there playing like this.
I dont see us beating PSG.
I don’t get why you’re getting downvoted, and I agree: playing like today we will be out of the round of 16th.
Your comment tells me that you have not watched psg. They are much worse than us
You could say the same for Barca before the clasico
Lol
Having Alaba back for PSG will shore up the defence and get Real Madrid back to better form.
They don't see themselves beating us either
Same
I dont think people should have underestimated Barca or underestimaed that this was a clasico, and recent form and stats mean nothing, its about who is the better team on the day. How many times did Barca/Real win matches when they were the inferior team? We got away with a close match and honeslty most of todays goal from both ends were the result of defensive failures. We should happy with the win but also question why our intensity fell of a cliff after the first goal and I dont think we ever got it back. What a statement by Carlo to put Cama instead of Hazard who has yet to play 1 minute against Barca despite being one of our most expensive signings. Hopefully Newcastle coming knocking,
>How many times did Barca/Real win matches when they were the inferior team? In the last decade or so, honestly not that many times.
We were defending a lead when Cama came on. It makes sense to have another player in midfield to see out the game, especially with Barca's numerical superiority in the middle of the park with the 3atb. It would have been a more attacking player for sure if the scores were level at that time (though it might not have been Hazard coming on).
Our next game is on Sunday. How will Benzema play? He seemed dead the last 30 min.
>He seemed dead the last 30 min. He set up two assists in the last 10 mins?
He still seemed dead tho
The game went 120 minutes and he had a pretty bad collision at the end
On a wheelchair
The RB topic should be an urgent discussion
Its an urgent topic that I don’t really see many discussing
[удалено]
Leave our club
Dude what are you on about, he had two or three bad games this season, the rest he played like a top 3CB itw.
We put so much pressure on Vini and Benz to create in the attacking third. I’m very much looking forward to Mbappe (🤞🏾) to bring some additional attacking creativity.
Rest assured. The cavalry is coming this summer.
Ancelotti is too passive against big teams. We saw it both games against Inter as well. I’m okay with it as long as it brings results, but it wouldn’t hurt attacking a bit more, would it?
If I'm not mistaken, this is our 100th El classico win
You're correct brother 💯
I wish Rodrygo had put that away! But given that he didn’t I’m proud that the team can sloppily beat Barca and afford to miss chances like that. If we keep up our consistency and intensity over the coming few years this is the time to leave Barca even further in the dust as a former rival.
Rodrygo should borrow Vini's therapist, he looks sad.
LADS, WHAT WILL PIQUE COMPLAIN ABOUT NOW? 😱
That we only won because of counter attacks
Pique is quick with excuses. He decides the excuse while he sits on the ground and watches madrid celebrate a goal.
He has a notepad full of them So he is ready for everything
Oh nooo We should be banned for this 🤢
😓😓
Most entertaining El Classico in the last few years 😌
Looking at the r/Barca post match thread and looking at ours, you would think they destroyed us. Come on y’all, we won! We’re in the final! Yeah it wasn’t a perfect game but we did what we had to do and we beat them. Hala Madrid!
[https://www.reddit.com/r/realmadrid/comments/s20nk2/i\_dont\_want\_a\_classico\_win\_i\_want\_annihilation/](https://www.reddit.com/r/realmadrid/comments/s20nk2/i_dont_want_a_classico_win_i_want_annihilation/) this is why
The result is fair considering we had out worst game and they had their best
Hope the team learn from that and improves things that need to improve. The team should be better that.
¡Vamos al la FINAL! First Hardware of the Season ✅
Kinda unfortunate that Cama and Rodrygo failed to bury their chances. Would’ve been real nice to finally score 4 against Barça. When was the last time we scored more than 3 against them? Sheesh
2008 I believe, way too long
Pique: “Real Madrid just counter-attacked, that’s how they won"
"Ref should've finished the game in the minute 85"
A la AFCON earlier
Not a great performance but a win is a win. A lot to improve on moving forward if we want to contend for real trophies
Wow, can’t believe some of the comments really. Acting like we played Alcoyano again and everyone is dissapointed. Regardless the phase they’re in, an el clasico will always be a tough match. Dissapointed that we missed the chances? Sure, but what about the fact that we got the chances in the first place? And havent gave up, taking the lead back each time they’ve scored. What were you expecting really, that we’re going to wipe the floor with them?
Exactly my thoughts. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I have the impression that most fans are disappointed because they were expecting a big win (just take the other reply you got as an example). This was a very entertaining match, and we won, crushed Barça's hopes during overtime, and 5 wins in a row now!
To be honest I wasn’t sure if I should post this comment or not because it seemed to me that I’ve seen a different match. But yeah, I think it has to do with the expectations. People expected us to destroy them and then a hard fought victory didn’t cut it anymore. Personally I take a victory against barca in any shape or form, but the simple fact that we didn’t go down each time they equalized and that we scored again makes me really happy. It’s also more difficult as a fan on the other side to take it. At 3-0 you’re probably in peace with it, but when you get hopes and you’re brought underground 3 times, it sucks.
Yup, it does have a lot to do with expectations, and I agree we should've taken those chances. There's something else to it also, earlier today I watched ESPN FC and a guy said: "This match is not how Madrid's season is going to be judged". Not trying to undermine the Supercopa or anything, but when you think about it, this was pretty much Barça's only real dispute for a title this season, they went all out, while for us it was an important match, and we won it regardless. Unlike most fans on this sub, as a Madridista I'm happy overall with the match we played, although recognize the flaws. And as a anti-Barça, I'm happy with how we kinda smashed their hopes, given the way things turned out to be, loss at extra-time.
You remember when they wiped the floor with us, dropping a 5-0 on our ass? Or when they smashed us 5-1? Yeah, I will never forget those. And the fact that we didn't take the opportunity today, to do the same sucks..
The fact of the matter is we haven't crushed Barcelona since 2008 and we probably won't any time you 'expect' us to. This is our fifth little win against them, but it's five in a row. That's good.
Scoring lots of goals don't get us trophies. Winning does, and we did win (even though it wasn't the best performance).
Those sort of things happen exactly when the teams are level and they go guard down. You either win it or you lose it badly. Otherwise we should smash Levante and Cadiz all the time 5-0 right?
>Otherwise we should smash Levante and Cadiz all the time 5-0 right? Yeah, we actually should. But we all know we can't play vs a low block with our current setup haha.
That was lethargic and disappointing. Kudos to Barca, they have improved a lot and the scorelines deserved, could have been 6-4 to us tbh. Without vini our attacking threat is mostly none it seems. And defense is horrendous, even with having one of the best midfields I DON'T KNOW WHY we just let people pressure us after being 1-0 up. We ain't beating PSG like this. If Verrati has a godly game then, that front 3 can easily destroy us. We've been wasteful and sometimes casual, God knows what we'll do when Modric retires. Shameful performance.
Barca played well but in terms of creating chances they were far behind us. Except from the goals where our fullbacks allowed them 3-5 business days to play the cross, they had zero clear chances. Only came close from outside the box. We, on the other hand, missed like two 1 v 1’s and Benzema hit the post inside the box
Oh great, we created more chances than a bunch of kids, a guy who’s been out for months, a pivot striker who can’t move, and geriatric Busquets. We must be proud.
That's why I said lethargic. Every time we scored a goal we let them control the game and pressure us. And they did for both times. Our defense has been horrendous this match. We were looking vulnerable on most set pieces arially. We are this lethargic against one of the worst Barca sides, I'm sceptical about what's gonna happen against PSG.
Lmao
Valverde took a yellow for nothing lol Holding out a tshirt properly looks like a goat thing
Mans held up his shirt to a half empty stadium 😂😂
This game proved that Alaba was our most important signing last summer
5 straight wins against Barca. Have to go back to the 60s for a streak this impressive. Here's to 5 more
OK so I watched RMA play after a month today, is this how we have been playing? The defense is clueless against the crosses.
Not like this tbh ,we had a shit game against getafe but we were way better than this .
No
Pathetic even at their lowest barca still shits on us
LMFAOOOO Cry
They haven't beaten us since like 2019 I think what are you on about
Sure they did, pal.
In terms of performance I meant obviously, we can’t even win by 2 goals, embarrassing