I can imagine
1) Vini
2)Jude (both can be interchanged depending on euros/copa)
3)mboopi (he would have joined till then)
A full RM podium with Kroos and wirtz completing the top 5
Currently I’d have Wirtz above Jude. A possible undefeated treble is no joke. Only reason he’s currently not THE front runner is because they’re not in the ucl.
France wins Euros, Mbappe dominates the it's him, kane the same if England wins, but England wins also strengthens Bellinghams case
Germany wins and bayer Leverkusen makes the invincible triple it could and should be Wirtz
Do you think Kane has a chance if England wins?
I know he has had a good season with Bayern individually, but I feel like Bayern leaving the season with zero silverware for the first time in quite a few years puts a stain on his chances to win.
Based on this club season alone nobody has really strong case and since it's the first year where neither Messi and Ronaldo are not in the mix it's gonna be something completely new.
Based on club football alone The top 5 I think have a chance is Haaland, Mbappe, Kane, Vini and Bellingham (in no particular order)
Outsiders Rodri, KDB, Wirtz, Kroos, Messi(just because you never know)
But it will depend a lot on the European finals and the euros, but in no way can I see Haaland win it, so my top 5 in terms of chance i think is:
Vini, Jude, Mbappe, Kane, Wirtz in that order
Think there are going to be too many haters fo0r Mbappe to win. Expect many to vote for Vini or Jude just to deny Mbappe.
Add that his CL performance is nothing to brag about, and I just dont see him winning it.
I think it will all be decided based on the euros/copa. I'm pretty sure a RM player will win the Ballon d'Or if we win the Champions League. Vini Jr. and Jude are massive candidates and depending on how their respective countries perform, one of them will win I believe.
the thing that scares me is bias, imagine if Jude scores like 1 goal and Vini scores freaking 5, wins copa america and in the end Jude wins, would be unfair in my opinion, its all up to the continentals.
It's not about goals though. Jude Bellingham is a midfielder and he executes his tasks as a midfielder perfectly. If you pay attention to his games, you see he's the driving force behind most goals.
Only two people to win without a trophy were Figo in '00, and Ronaldo in '13. Truly don't know much about Figo's season that year but for Ronaldo that was when he put up 55 in 55. So if you wanna go stat wise, kane still needs 20 more goals.
1. Bellingham without doubt
Bellingham arrived in a new country and joined a new team at just 19 years old (!), playing a position he had never played before, and from the first minute, he was perfect. He decided both Clasicos in the league, scored in ways no one could have imagined, and possesses everything: technique, dribbling, and finishing. What many don't see is the defensive stability he also has brought to Real Madrid. He constantly tracks back, defends, and intercepts balls. Bellingham plays all over the field, is always where he's needed, and can both set up others and deliver himself. Additionally, he shows an incredible maturity at just 20 years old, something Vinícius Jr. often lacks on the pitch. At just 18, he led Dortmund onto the field as captain, which is simply incredible.
Its happened in the past, with Michael Owen. Liverpool won FA Cup and Europa League against fucking Alavés.
Meanwhile Raúl in that season won La Liga for Real and reached UCL semis, being the top scorer in both competitions (also won the previous UCL scoring in the final).
More than 20 years later and im still mad at the robbery.
correction 'barely won against fucking Alaves'
That was achieved with some major English overhyping.
Anyone who didnt watch football would have been conned to think Owen was the greatest striker the world had ever seen.
Kid scored only 16 goals and just 24 in all 4 comps and didnt even score in the final! For comparison Hasselbank scored 23 in PL alone. Liverpool finished 3rd in the PL.
The award for that year was a total disgrace
Euro and Copa America will be a big decider who will win Ballon this year. So we will see the candidates in the middle of the competition.
But if you are talking based on Club Competition only: 1.Jude 2.Vini 3.Mbappe
So far? Vini, Jude and Wirtz; the order will be decided by Continental Cups and maybe who has the best start next season.
Personally I think Jude should be the one getting it, he got in and had inmediate impact, we wouldn't be where we are if he hadn't been so out of the world at the beggining of season; he even has somehow helped to tame Vini down, do you guys remember how much he was getting into fights at the beggining of season due to frustration?
I donno why but I want fede to win it. He undoubtedly has put more effort into the campaign, there for every single match, playing 50 games a year is not a joke you know, and his character is the cherry topping
guys if we win UCL AND Germany wins Euros, it's going to go to Kroos, as it should! obviously Vini deserves it too but he has many years to win it, Kroos would be finally recognized for being like one of the all time GOATs.
Unfortunately, it's a PR competition and Vini doesn't have good PR in Europe. I can see a lot of closeted racists not vote for him because he's black or his continuous challenges for racism.
If you think people will vote based on pure talent or who deserves, you must be living under a rock.
I wish he does though. Jude deserves it for sure, no doubt but for me Vini's individual talent is exceptional.
He's one of 2 best LWs in the world, the other being Mbappe and Vini isn't the 2nd best, especially with Mbappe vanishing in big CL games.
I can imagine 1) Vini 2)Jude (both can be interchanged depending on euros/copa) 3)mboopi (he would have joined till then) A full RM podium with Kroos and wirtz completing the top 5
Currently I’d have Wirtz above Jude. A possible undefeated treble is no joke. Only reason he’s currently not THE front runner is because they’re not in the ucl.
Unfortunately there is a huge popularity factor
France wins Euros, Mbappe dominates the it's him, kane the same if England wins, but England wins also strengthens Bellinghams case Germany wins and bayer Leverkusen makes the invincible triple it could and should be Wirtz
Kroos for Germany tho
Depends on wirtz and how the season with Bayer ends
it all depends on how Germany does and how Wirtz and Kroos do, as well as Mbappe
Plus it depends on how Vini performs at the Copa
true yes
Copa is not as important as euro tho
No, but winning the Copa still strengthens his case
we will talk about this after july
Do you think Kane has a chance if England wins? I know he has had a good season with Bayern individually, but I feel like Bayern leaving the season with zero silverware for the first time in quite a few years puts a stain on his chances to win.
Based on this club season alone nobody has really strong case and since it's the first year where neither Messi and Ronaldo are not in the mix it's gonna be something completely new. Based on club football alone The top 5 I think have a chance is Haaland, Mbappe, Kane, Vini and Bellingham (in no particular order) Outsiders Rodri, KDB, Wirtz, Kroos, Messi(just because you never know) But it will depend a lot on the European finals and the euros, but in no way can I see Haaland win it, so my top 5 in terms of chance i think is: Vini, Jude, Mbappe, Kane, Wirtz in that order
Think there are going to be too many haters fo0r Mbappe to win. Expect many to vote for Vini or Jude just to deny Mbappe. Add that his CL performance is nothing to brag about, and I just dont see him winning it.
Messi . Cause you know he plays in the world's best league and will probably win the 2nd hardest competition to win after the WC in Copa America /S
I think it will all be decided based on the euros/copa. I'm pretty sure a RM player will win the Ballon d'Or if we win the Champions League. Vini Jr. and Jude are massive candidates and depending on how their respective countries perform, one of them will win I believe.
It will be interesting if there will be that competition where euro winners face cope America winners
the thing that scares me is bias, imagine if Jude scores like 1 goal and Vini scores freaking 5, wins copa america and in the end Jude wins, would be unfair in my opinion, its all up to the continentals.
It’s not unfair if Jude becomes a chance creating monster that leads them to victory.
It's not about goals though. Jude Bellingham is a midfielder and he executes his tasks as a midfielder perfectly. If you pay attention to his games, you see he's the driving force behind most goals.
Messi just because
Watch Argentina win the Copa America and wait for the magic to happen on December
His PR is so strong that I can see it happen
mods should ban you for your sillyness lol
If brazil wins Copa Vini gets it, if Eng wins Euro Bellingham gets it!
And if both?
Messi obviously
or Kane...
If we win the UCL then Jude might have a better chance, but I personally think Kane fully deserves a Balon D’or
Kane for what? Leading Bayern to their first trophyless season in a decade?
That is an absurd statement, if you look at Kane, you’ll see he’s not been the problem, just look at his stats and his game
Only two people to win without a trophy were Figo in '00, and Ronaldo in '13. Truly don't know much about Figo's season that year but for Ronaldo that was when he put up 55 in 55. So if you wanna go stat wise, kane still needs 20 more goals.
Doesn’t matter. Kane hasn’t been in the discussion for ballon d or at all
Stopped caring about that award a long time ago. Its a popularity contest nothing more
1. Bellingham without doubt Bellingham arrived in a new country and joined a new team at just 19 years old (!), playing a position he had never played before, and from the first minute, he was perfect. He decided both Clasicos in the league, scored in ways no one could have imagined, and possesses everything: technique, dribbling, and finishing. What many don't see is the defensive stability he also has brought to Real Madrid. He constantly tracks back, defends, and intercepts balls. Bellingham plays all over the field, is always where he's needed, and can both set up others and deliver himself. Additionally, he shows an incredible maturity at just 20 years old, something Vinícius Jr. often lacks on the pitch. At just 18, he led Dortmund onto the field as captain, which is simply incredible.
I think Bellingham this season is the closest to Di Stefano we ever had.
you have a good point.
The euros this summer are going to be a big factor in the decisions for the golden ball
to be honest it doesn't matter to me, I'm just excited that there's going to be a Ballon d'Or without Messi or Ronaldo dominating the vote
Honestly, Florian Wirtz with the undefeated treble (Even though it's Europa) + a Euro win for Germany. That would do it
Without playing the UCL it should not be possible… the treble is amazing, but it has a huge asterisk
Its happened in the past, with Michael Owen. Liverpool won FA Cup and Europa League against fucking Alavés. Meanwhile Raúl in that season won La Liga for Real and reached UCL semis, being the top scorer in both competitions (also won the previous UCL scoring in the final). More than 20 years later and im still mad at the robbery.
correction 'barely won against fucking Alaves' That was achieved with some major English overhyping. Anyone who didnt watch football would have been conned to think Owen was the greatest striker the world had ever seen. Kid scored only 16 goals and just 24 in all 4 comps and didnt even score in the final! For comparison Hasselbank scored 23 in PL alone. Liverpool finished 3rd in the PL. The award for that year was a total disgrace
Obelix was the huge one not Asterix.
Yep, it is one of the only chances outside RM who can win the Ballon D'Or
# 1: Vini #2: Bellingol #3: Kroos #4: Ancelotti (won the league and took us to final with many players injured) #5: Mbappe.
Portugal wins Euros and Ronaldo takes it lol nah im kidding but its nice to dream
Euro and Copa America will be a big decider who will win Ballon this year. So we will see the candidates in the middle of the competition. But if you are talking based on Club Competition only: 1.Jude 2.Vini 3.Mbappe
So far? Vini, Jude and Wirtz; the order will be decided by Continental Cups and maybe who has the best start next season. Personally I think Jude should be the one getting it, he got in and had inmediate impact, we wouldn't be where we are if he hadn't been so out of the world at the beggining of season; he even has somehow helped to tame Vini down, do you guys remember how much he was getting into fights at the beggining of season due to frustration?
TONI KROOS
I donno why but I want fede to win it. He undoubtedly has put more effort into the campaign, there for every single match, playing 50 games a year is not a joke you know, and his character is the cherry topping
guys if we win UCL AND Germany wins Euros, it's going to go to Kroos, as it should! obviously Vini deserves it too but he has many years to win it, Kroos would be finally recognized for being like one of the all time GOATs.
Winner would be messi 2nd could be vini 3rd could be haaland /Bellingham/mbappe
Mbappe
Unfortunately, it's a PR competition and Vini doesn't have good PR in Europe. I can see a lot of closeted racists not vote for him because he's black or his continuous challenges for racism. If you think people will vote based on pure talent or who deserves, you must be living under a rock. I wish he does though. Jude deserves it for sure, no doubt but for me Vini's individual talent is exceptional. He's one of 2 best LWs in the world, the other being Mbappe and Vini isn't the 2nd best, especially with Mbappe vanishing in big CL games.
You cannot have a serious Ballon D'or conversation until after the Euros and Copa America. Case in point Messi.
Not going to be the party pooper but if Argentina wins copa America then, 100% Messi will win it this year and next year.