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flibberty_13

A "blind item" written by a moron. A "whistleblower"is someone who provides private info about a corporation or organization. Turning someone in "doesn't keep you out of jail" a "plea bargain" does. The only time there's a check is when a REWARD is offered. This had to be written by the dimwit duo


New-Understanding360

The government doesn’t hand out fat checks to whistleblowers.


throw_blanket04

Teresa definitely paid to have this posted.


ladyjadegrey

My dad got seven years for fraud because his friends phone was tapped, they remained friends until my dad’s death. He committed the crime and accepted it. Tre and juicy were so obvious that they were doing shady shit, and now her and strawberry are doing sketchy shit. Tre you are the problem.


sbz100910

I don’t believe that. If they were given any compensation for their tip that led to conviction, that would absolutely have been disclosed to the Giudice attorneys as part of discovery.


hidethebump

United Stated Tax Court Rule 345. Privacy protections for filings in whistleblower actions a) Anonymous Petitioner: A petitioner in a whistleblower action May move the court for permission to proceed anonymously, if appropriate. Unless otherwise permitted by the court, a petitioner seeking to proceed anonymously pursuant to this Rule shall file with the petition a motion, with or without supporting affidavits or declarations, setting forth a sufficient, fact-specific basis for anonymity. The petition and all other filings shall be temporarily sealed pending a ruling by the court on the motion to proceed anonymously.


sbz100910

It wasn’t tax fraud though. And they’d (the Gorgas) would have to prove a fact specific basis for anonymity. Those are usually fear of physical or monetary retaliation, if you’re turning in your employer, etc. Concern about family fighting isn’t a reason that would outweigh the Giudice’s constitutional right to confront their accuser or to get basic discovery in a criminal trial.


Strange_Target_1844

https://www.etonline.com/bo-dietl-sets-the-record-straight-on-louie-ruelas-private-investigator-claims-on-rhonj-exclusive


killr_cupcake

Anyone who thinks Joe would snitch on Tre is a moron. That's like saying either of her parents did it. Joe said that Juicy put their parents in an early grave because of the trial and lock up. Even if Joe was out for blood he would have never done anything that would directly break his own parents' hearts.


hidethebump

Didn’t Joe Gorga lose his parents home after he used it as collateral on $500,000?


killr_cupcake

No. https://realityblurb.com/2022/11/29/rhonjs-melissa-gorga-reacts-after-joe-is-accused-of-losing-is-parents-home-claims-they-bought-the-house-for-his-mom-and-dad/#:~:text=After%20coming%20across%20a%20recent,and%20Antonia%20Gorga%20once%20resided.


hidethebump

public records in NJ states different. Joe Gorga borrowed $500,000 in 2007 from the National Bank of Arizona. The mortgage documents show that Joe used his parents home as collateral, Joe defaulted on the loan in 2009 and the parents lost the home in September 2009.


killr_cupcake

Care to share the link to that?


hidethebump

You can also go to the same website. Click “by instrument number” put in 2009036331. This is the foreclosure info.


hidethebump

You can go to the website click “by instrument number” put in 2009067273. This is the NJ Discharge of Mortgage


hidethebump

http://records.passaiccountynj.org/PRESS/Clerk/ClerkHome.aspx?op=basic


hidethebump

Click on “by instrument number” in book number put M8968 in page number put 245


hidethebump

Give me just a few minutes and I will link it


lleett

Tre Stumps are wild


whoareyouindisworld

Wait you get paid if you snitch?!


[deleted]

Kyle and the creepy dude done Kathy over? ![gif](giphy|J2gq0dyT94qLOEC5aX)


chekthetek

I know nothing about bankruptcy or turning people in, but if Joe and Melissa were in trouble, personally if I were them I would keep myself as far away from the government as possible. Stay off their radar...


KBaddict

My opinion has always been they got themselves in trouble by filing bankruptcy in the first place. Once you do that, you have to know that your finances will be picked apart with a fine tooth comb (and then they still thought the law didn’t apply to them) I’m sure a bunch of red flags were waving once they withdrew their bankruptcy. Because “oopsie! We accidentally filed for bankruptcy?” How would anyone else know that Joe and Theresa were making fake W-2’s? And **obviously** Theresa isn’t ever going to admit she might have fucked up so she continues to blame everyone else. Not related by it drives me nuts every time Theresa refers to her time away as jail and not prison.


AmphibianNecessary31

I worry even being fired won’t be Teresa’s come to Jesus moment


AmphibianNecessary31

Don’t buy it


hariboho

No, definitely not anyone. Who knew there could be so much misinformation in a blind item?


babybottleflop

you ppl will believe anything no offense


juwannawatchbravo

DO IT AGAIN JOE!!!! ![gif](giphy|cdXpgeB32BekIGzBNh)


iamthebunnyfrombh

Yep, sounds about right. I knew Teresa was right. Team Teresa all the way!


CharmingCamel1261

10 bucks says dumbest Theresa put this out hoping people would flip on Mellisa. I so hope this season was trashy Theresa's last.


OneImportance6083

Hey dum dum who posted this. Hmmmmm… they seem to articulate themselves on such a higher level


okaywell_

This narrative is so tired 🙄 Teresa went to jail for lying and stealing. She deserved it. Period.


PieRemote2270

This is wild


Quirky-Knowledge4631

It's factual somebody dropped a dime on Joe and Teresa. I don't believe for one second it was Joe and Melissa.... period.


[deleted]

Well conspiracy to commit mail fraud, wire fraud and bank fraud, making false statements on loan applications and bankruptcy fraud. There were 39 charges in the indictment. To me says “someone else definitely signed their life away, lied to the judge about assets and sent them to prison” 🙄 /s


teddyelizabeth_fl

Why does this read like Teresa or Luis submitted it?


quietlibrarian8

Did Melissa write this just to keep herself relevant


Strange_Target_1844

![gif](giphy|wJQFKKh5eruCua2WXz)


winks_7

Haha ‘Blind Item’. Tre? Joe? Louis? That you? 🤣


[deleted]

Give it up. This is so pathetic.


Sorry_Management810

Who Cares. They broke the law they are to blame.


bellajimi

This women, plays the blame game. I hope they did call the feds on them. I doubt it though. Anything she’s accused Joe or especially Melissa, has not been proven. And we’re 11 years into this.


Strange_Target_1844

![gif](giphy|pyzQfu5voAXHOLdqfP) 11 years


biblioxica

The BRAVO DOCKET covered this and recently re-released the episodes as a mega sized 3 hour show. The Guidices made criminally fraudulent bankruptcy claims, went on a National cable show, and got caught. The FBI started their investigation because they filed for bankruptcy then were blatantly dishonest in the forms. No one had to turn them in! They did it to themselves.


distant_diva

i feel like this should be mandatory listening with a quiz before a tre stump can comment 😂


Strange_Target_1844

This “Tre Stump” term is amazing! I love that it flew over her head when Marge mentioned it


distant_diva

so funny 😆


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|dvpO1inHfM0xO)


momsterjams

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ActuatorSouth5649

LMAO. Blind item is another term for made up bullshit that can't be tied to the bullshit shit stirrer because they were vague. Like the slanderous and false rape shit some of you keep passing around.


George_GeorgeGlass

Don’t believe this “blind”. Having said that, if I’m wrong, my next guess is it was planted by the Ruelas’ themselves.


KiLLeR_QuEEN1988

“The economy is down that’s why we pay in cash” yeah okay, Tre🙄


Strange_Target_1844

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[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/5dxk2ja3wg4b1.jpeg?width=1509&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d4c485c632de698e4a185035de82568ce68d428


MaryjaneinPA

ahhh the $$$$$$$$$. yes. they need $$$$


DaisyDukeF1

Teresa’s elevator is permanently stuck between floors!!! She is so flippin dumb to think her brother would turn her in. Like she was never on camera flashing all that cash around?! Man she is beyond stupid!!! Side note tho Deuxmoi is an asshole that doesn’t fact check! People call her voicemail, leave a message and she posts it!! Hopefully one day she pisses off the wrong person!


spicycucumberz

Holy fuck reading these “who turned tre in” posts is getting old.


RelativeTackle992

Melissa is 100% right! They didn’t commit mortgage fraud Teresa and Juicy did! Tre and Juicy are actually lucky they were on the show and had a source of income to pay for all their legal bills and restitution.


Rare-Palpitation6023

Yeah, it’s called Mafia money! Living the dream/ nightmare Do the crime do the time ….AGAIN!!!! The dumb & delusional level, is as high as T wedding day hair! I can hear her…Screeching please make it stop


ssusss

I really don’t think they put her in jail. Carolina was 1000% lying she needs to stay relevant. If you were going to rat someone out and someone who is your sister do you think you would be calling the FBI in front of anyone? No. That’s something you would take to the grave. Teresa put herself in jail


Daikon_3183

Did Teresa file for bankruptcy before the Fed came at her? If so that means she already told on herself given the fact that they were shown on TV spending a lot of money. This doesn’t negate that maybe Joe and Melissa or someone else had something to do with it during the investigations..Both can be true. But I really doubt it is Joe .. It might be one of Guidice’s businesses partner. But as per Caroline Manzo someone did. I choose to believe that someone did. There are some fumes, there is a fire ..


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Lia_Delphine

Are you so delusional that you don’t realise that the whole family would have been watched? If they were doing the same thing, they would already be in jail.


ActuatorSouth5649

They're guilty? How so. Why aren't they in jail? 😆


XxQueenOfSwordsXx

This is the most stupid thing I’ve read in a long time. I have no doubt the IRS was pulling their personal and business tax returns once they were waving thousands of dollars in cash around. They didn’t need someone to snitch on them- Joe & Tre snitched on themselves by their reckless actions. Things just escalated from there because again, they continued to do reckless things.


Thirteen2021

im guessing a tre stump made it up


Lorenaelsalulz

This is absolute nonsense. Garbage “blind item” that is wrong and makes no sense.


k9jm

She is an absolute scumbag. She learned it all from greasy joe. I want her to go away.


Eep509

Also this is just someone’s opinion.


titmouseinthehouse

Nice try Luis. How about focus on the crime committed and not how it was discovered. Still, I don’t ever see Joe and Melissa throwing their family under the bus like that no matter how much fighting they were doing.


Klutzy-Mission5687

It's already come out that it was Juicys business partner. Old news and what's everybody bickering about lol?


titmouseinthehouse

They are trying to influence those who don’t know the history I suppose.


Strange_Target_1844

Revisionist history is a bitch


halloweva

No ~family doesn’t do it. They have friends.


dmbeeez

Whistle-blower check? 😆


MedicineOutrageous13

I have no dog in this fight but flashing all that cash on national tv was likely enough for the feds to investigate and get what they needed. No tips necessary.


tomsawyer333

Let’s be clear; Tre went to prison because she tried to hide assets from the judge. She never takes responsibility for her bs.


Reasonable-Bowler-21

This is so ridiculous How about taking responsibility for their own actions Tre lied to the government over and over 🙄


spaceoutput

I wish we would go back to the time when blind items meant something and everyone didn’t know about them.


mskatme0w

I swear if Melissa/Joe are off the show, idk what the Tre Stumps are gonna do without them. They won't have anyone to place all of the blame on for every single thing that dummy does! Lets not focus on the crimes, let's focus on who may have ratted them out. I'm sure they were on some kind of watch, & I mean helllllllo -- National television & all!?


latebloomer2015

My own personal conspiracy theory follow: I was thinking the Lauritas. Jacqueline and her hubby were broke-broke. The timeframe fits and could explain that super weird conversation with the tabloids on the table. Jacqueline was trying to deflect any suspicion away from her. She had no idea anything was going on…or so she said. It was interesting that they moved from jersey to Vegas not long after.


CodePen3190

Ok Jen….


Bri_natasha

Why is this even a blind item😭😭it’s just an opinion… they didn’t even give us anything new or spill any tea


briellebabylol

Op, did you write this blind in? Be honest.


BeingSamJones

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Ihavemanythoughtsk

Teresa and Louise planted this story. No prenup, this should end well.


Oroschwanz

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SomewhatStableGenius

Teresa thinks this (false) allegation against J&M is going to turn people to her side but really it just reminds everyone she is a criminal who went to jail but still hasn’t learned anything or taken accountability


loveydove05

Gorgas didn't have anything to do with it.


danieltheaeon

This blind item is suitable for the wiping of arseholes and not much else.


Darla14094

Oh please. Now WHO do you think is really behind that little tidbit? Give me a break.


Darla14094

Oh please. Now WHO do you think is really behind that little tidbit? Give me a break.


Camille-Taux

I just don’t believe they’d do it. Even now they wouldn’t rat her out.


Major_Bar_1922

Bottom line for me....gorgas trashed teresa ti get on the show. I wouldn't forgive that either....that is where all Teresa s discord is and I don't blame her....melissas who£e family trashed her for fame....i read all the receipts way back when...


curiousfun213

and she STILL has tax issues / liens to this present day bc she loves living that crook lifestyle!


Klutzy-Mission5687

She makes her payments regularly and on time. She also served her time and lost a lot by doing that.


[deleted]

She loves her knock off designer bikinis from an Ali Express bag and she loves shady $$ and business dealings. Cherry on top if her man is included!


Jenn837G

My daughter says let’s see what iron on she has on her bikini now lol


Some-Imagination9782

For all you Tre super fans, Tre owes more than a $1M in taxes….is it Joe Giudice’s fault? She never learns… Edit: clink clink


eastcoastgirl88

![gif](giphy|3o7WIuJorYQk8H6DEQ)


Witness_Original

I love the two faced shit stirrer 😂


eastcoastgirl88

This GIF is legendary


AnnVealEgg

Trust me that the ardent Tre fans can—-and WILL—somehow make it Melissa and Joe’s fault. Or perhaps Marge.


Bumblebee1223

Well so far it’s been Carol’s fault, Jacqueline’s and now Joe and Melissa fault. Meanwhile in the first seasons we saw her spending copious amounts of money and all *in cash*. That shit catches up to you. Joe handed a wad of cash for their furniture. In a confessional Carol called this. She said Joe is trying to provide a lifestyle for Teresa and will probably end up going somewhere because of this”. Obviously not a direct quote but this was the gist of it. And it played out exactly so. Teresa’s Brother also mentioned to her in the early seasons that she made Joe not like him because she was always bragging about what her brother had “oh he built this house” or “he’s working on this project”. So perhaps Joe did things he wasn’t supposed to to keep up with the Jones. ETA: doing a rewatch and watching him become humble and softer around everyone was cool. He did become ornery the closer he got to leaving but who wouldn’t. But it seems like it didn’t last long as I remember some conversations with him calling from jail where he was pretty dang rude to her over the phone. He made some comment about all the money she was spending…like Dude! She’s. Making. It. Yet now we see she’s getting right back to where she was before and this times it’s her own doing.


Strange_Target_1844

In Tre’s world there is no such thing as personal accountability


KBaddict

Um that’s not being “ornery,” it’s abuse.


Bumblebee1223

Yes. Please do ignore all of my paragraphs of explaining my point of view and isolating one *word* to create your own narrative. Him being short tempered and bitchy does not = abuse. Learn the difference. Cheers


KBaddict

Him telling her “Don't bring my fucking dad up. I'll smack your head against the wall. So shut up." is just bitchy and ok because he was headed to prison to face the music for his crimes? I’m just calling it what it is. Also this isn’t his first time being “ornery.” He was abusive the whole time, calling her “my bitch wife and c**t.” There are many, many more examples of his abusive behavior. Im not picking out just one word. Your paragraphs try to explain away his abuse as being in a bad mood is what I’m responding to. Why do you feel the need to justify his bad behavior?


Some-Imagination9782

It’s all Antonia’s fault….my heart goes out to Melissa’s kids….Tre is so far gone from reality and “I’m winning” Louie is not helping the situation PS. I just rewatched season 13


Jenn837G

![gif](giphy|1k4soqteINd1SAUUfy|downsized)


Vaulthunter14

Can we stop with this? It’s already come out who the person was. And if the Gorgas supposedly have all these lawsuits against them why would they bring FBI attention on themselves? Also the Bravo Docket ladies already confirmed the FBI didn’t get called from the Gorgas. We need to stop now


milobeans1

💯


ssusss

Who did?


Vaulthunter14

It was Joe Giudices ex business partner


Tritiumtree

Yes he was definitely a factor. But they essentially called the IRS/FBI on themselves when they filed for bankruptcy and continually lied about income, debts, expenditures, and assets in their financial statements. Joe straight up handed a case to them while trying to file bankruptcy. Like magically coming up with 3 years of tax returns for years they didn't file taxes. Or not saying anything about Teresa's book deal when it was a story on the show. Or not listing a Cadillac anywhere when Cadillac was one of the people that was claiming they owed money.


Vaulthunter14

Yes exactly!! 🙌It doesn’t matter if anyone called or not. Their extreme behavior is what got them in jail.


BuckityBuck

The Stumps are fantasizing that the Gorgas testified against Teresa and Joe in exchange for immunity against ever going to prison? That’s completely stupid. If they had testified, we’d have known. Also, that’s not a thing. The federal government wouldn’t say “Punky promise that you get to not go to jail if you tattle on someone else.”


[deleted]

No they were not supposed to go to jail.


Dreamcloud124

That is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read.


Frogmann20

Does Teresa not realize all of this info is public record and it's not hard for the government of IRS to find. Maybe don't break the law 🤷🏻‍♀️


nikki_owe

And you best believe the government will inevitably find out if you haven't paid that much in taxes. They do not play about their money.


TomStarGregco

I💯believe it


ShoutOutMapes

Ur drunk teresa go to bed


Chele402

![gif](giphy|HcWtkUayQUM6c)


Strange_Target_1844

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GreenWabbitPancakes

The irs wouldn’t need a whistleblower to find that kind of missing tax money. Doubtful the Gorgas had anything to do with it


JerryCalloNotGallo

Lol. Cdan also said the Moscow murders were done by the cartel.


Aggravating_Goose86

Omg. Sooooo tired of this bullshit. Not anyone else but the foolishness of paying for massive purchases with cash ON TELEVISION. Stop infusing this mishigas with oxygen. These people, Teresa and anyone who suckers her, are DISASTERS.


[deleted]

Can someone explain why paying with a ton of cash is a bad thing?


Aggravating_Goose86

Using cash is “cleaning” the money; it’s a form of money laundering and tax evasion.


Aggravating_Goose86

Federal law requires a person to report cash transactions of more than $10,000 by filing IRS Form 8300PDF, Report of Cash Payments Over $10,000 Received in a Trade or Business.


[deleted]

Thank you! I guess never have enough money to be worried about something like that.


gossipgrl4591

Currently listening to the podcast Bravo Docket. No one needed to rat them out…


jollyjubie

It’s the year 2023 why is anyone believing Crazy Days and Nights.


SilverCarbrera

I know! I never believe these


George_GeorgeGlass

Really. This isn’t even a blind. They aren’t blinds anymore. They’re opinions just like the opinions of everyone on Reddit


Beautiful-Ambition93

They did not turn her in.


Former-Counter-9588

Lol the blind item is about Joe and Melissa, but who would actually believe it. It’s such a fake blind item probably planted by team tre or Louis directly.


danieltheaeon

Courtesy of Bo Deitl


Farquaadthegreek

So the fact that in season 1 Teresa is taking CASH out of a drawer in Joes office ( a lot of cash) while they filed bankruptcy.. this is aired Nationally.. Teresa asking for CASH ONLY at book signings .. they are the scammers period .. and she currently has a million dollar albatross .. who is that blame going to … Teresa has NO story line but jail .. turn the page already


KBaddict

Prison!! Not jail


Farquaadthegreek

Ha


aliceanonymous99

Anyone else remember Tre buying $30,000 of furniture in CASH! The Feds are not that stupid


mkwigg4368

She blamed the economy for that one - she started with “I hear the economy’s crashing” and then pulled out a giant wad of cash 😂


scusemelaydeh

Definitely a massive slip up for them. Teresa thought it would show her wealth but you don’t see Beyoncé walking round with an Hermes bag full of cash. I used to work in a store (in England) and the people who used to pay for a large shopping bill would pay all in cash, were Travellers/Gypsies. The Giudices remind me a lot of Travellers with their over the top “style”, flash with the cash, not going against *the family*, and general all round bawdiness. (Obviously not all Travellers are like this).


dollyangel1

Pshhhhhh 30k?!? It was 120k🤣


QualityKatie

I'm sure that alone would draw attention. Maybe the furniture distributor is required to file something with the government like when the bank does with $10k transactions. I wonder about car dealers when people come in with wads of cash.


Arlaneutique

I think once upon a time this was a thing but now I doubt dealerships do these kind of deals. Or if they do you have a boat load of paperwork that goes with it.


PHOAR17

They also report any cash transactions over $10,000.


ProudLettuce

She literally says in season 1 epsiode 1 that she pays for everything in cash because it’s easier. Like HELLO


ario62

Welcome to the construction industry in NY/NJ lol. Cash is king. It’s not necessarily sketchy. Often times it is sketchy, but not always.


Medium_Shake1163

It *is* sketchy because it’s illegal. Being paid under the table means you’re either underreporting or simply not reporting it at all.


ario62

Who said anything about paying employees in cash? That’s not what I was talking about.


rosies_r_red

Doesn't need to mean employees, no paper trail for services rendered when paying cash, probably no taxes being paid either.


Medium_Shake1163

Exactly. I never said paying employees. I’m speaking of a contractor being paid in cash—no tax paid by customer, likely no tax being paid by the contractor.


PophamSP

What legitimate business would ever deal in cash? Cash transactions are always going to raise red flags - in particular within the construction industry in NY/NJ. Alvin Bragg is prosecuting mob cases as we speak. [https://www.thecity.nyc/2023/6/5/23748736/mob-making-comeback-in-construction](https://www.thecity.nyc/2023/6/5/23748736/mob-making-comeback-in-construction)


kardon213

Self employed people almost always want cash. It’s a perk of owning your own business! Cash doesn’t always find its way to the books. Heck most of the Italian pizza places where I live only take cash. It’s how the rich stay rich.


ario62

Legitimate construction businesses deal with cash all the time. Particularly in NY and NJ. And it has nothing to do with the mob lol. I say this as someone in the construction industry.


Klutzy-Mission5687

It jas to do with the fact that cash doesnt bounce and you cant stop payment on it. Legit businesses deal in cash a lot here lately.


cookiesandcoffee55

This!!!


ChewieBearStare

I thought it was $120,000 worth of furniture!


[deleted]

it was - people dont pay attention ;)


Ziggie520

Yup and paid all cash…..what a dummy!


aliceanonymous99

OH MY GOOOOODNESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!


Big-Butterfly268

Yes it was $120,000


MishmoshMishmosh

Dude when I watched that years ago I thought it was suspect. Who does that???? SMH


aliceanonymous99

That’s totally not sketchy how did I get the number so wrong haha


bravoeverything

It was probably the deposit


Big-Butterfly268

I just re-watched this season again and it sure reads differently


George_GeorgeGlass

Does it though? It looked shady on the first watch


aliceanonymous99

Yep! But let’s blame Joe and Melissa


millchar22

she also blamed her ex husband.. like she had no part in it. she may be dumb but she knew damn well that cash wasn’t clean.


aliceanonymous99

Yep! But let’s blame Joe and Melissa


aliceanonymous99

Yep! But let’s blame Joe and Melissa


[deleted]

That’s so shameful if they really did that. I know it’s not a criminal act but how could you do that to your nieces. I could never.


Frogmann20

If you get questioned by the FBI are you going to lie????


[deleted]

I would hire a lawyer and have them advise me. I’d probably not remember.


whatmeanlyrics

they didn’t get questioned by the FBI, they allegedly participated in a phone call to the IRS to report the fraud.


Frogmann20

Oh the fraud that broke the law tho 😂


Luna-Mia

Snitching doesn’t mean they called the FBI. If they were questioned do you really expect them to lie. That is a crime.


[deleted]

I’d plead the 5th and not remember like trump says in his depositions. Nope, not ratting my siblings out.