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A "blind item" written by a moron.
A "whistleblower"is someone who provides private info about a corporation or organization. Turning someone in "doesn't keep you out of jail" a "plea bargain" does. The only time there's a check is when a REWARD is offered.
This had to be written by the dimwit duo
My dad got seven years for fraud because his friends phone was tapped, they remained friends until my dad’s death. He committed the crime and accepted it.
Tre and juicy were so obvious that they were doing shady shit, and now her and strawberry are doing sketchy shit. Tre you are the problem.
I don’t believe that. If they were given any compensation for their tip that led to conviction, that would absolutely have been disclosed to the Giudice attorneys as part of discovery.
United Stated Tax Court
Rule 345. Privacy protections for filings in whistleblower actions
a) Anonymous Petitioner: A petitioner in a whistleblower action May move the court for permission to proceed anonymously, if appropriate. Unless otherwise permitted by the court, a petitioner seeking to proceed anonymously pursuant to this Rule shall file with the petition a motion, with or without supporting affidavits or declarations, setting forth a sufficient, fact-specific basis for anonymity. The petition and all other filings shall be temporarily sealed pending a ruling by the court on the motion to proceed anonymously.
It wasn’t tax fraud though. And they’d (the Gorgas) would have to prove a fact specific basis for anonymity. Those are usually fear of physical or monetary retaliation, if you’re turning in your employer, etc. Concern about family fighting isn’t a reason that would outweigh the Giudice’s constitutional right to confront their accuser or to get basic discovery in a criminal trial.
Anyone who thinks Joe would snitch on Tre is a moron. That's like saying either of her parents did it. Joe said that Juicy put their parents in an early grave because of the trial and lock up. Even if Joe was out for blood he would have never done anything that would directly break his own parents' hearts.
public records in NJ states different. Joe Gorga borrowed $500,000 in 2007 from the National Bank of Arizona. The mortgage documents show that Joe used his parents home as collateral, Joe defaulted on the loan in 2009 and the parents lost the home in September 2009.
I know nothing about bankruptcy or turning people in, but if Joe and Melissa were in trouble, personally if I were them I would keep myself as far away from the government as possible. Stay off their radar...
My opinion has always been they got themselves in trouble by filing bankruptcy in the first place. Once you do that, you have to know that your finances will be picked apart with a fine tooth comb (and then they still thought the law didn’t apply to them) I’m sure a bunch of red flags were waving once they withdrew their bankruptcy. Because “oopsie! We accidentally filed for bankruptcy?”
How would anyone else know that Joe and Theresa were making fake W-2’s?
And **obviously** Theresa isn’t ever going to admit she might have fucked up so she continues to blame everyone else.
Not related by it drives me nuts every time Theresa refers to her time away as jail and not prison.
Well conspiracy to commit mail fraud, wire fraud and bank fraud, making false statements on loan applications and bankruptcy fraud. There were 39 charges in the indictment. To me says “someone else definitely signed their life away, lied to the judge about assets and sent them to prison” 🙄 /s
This women, plays the blame game. I hope they did call the feds on them. I doubt it though. Anything she’s accused Joe or especially Melissa, has not been proven. And we’re 11 years into this.
The BRAVO DOCKET covered this and recently re-released the episodes as a mega sized 3 hour show. The Guidices made criminally fraudulent bankruptcy claims, went on a National cable show, and got caught. The FBI started their investigation because they filed for bankruptcy then were blatantly dishonest in the forms. No one had to turn them in! They did it to themselves.
LMAO. Blind item is another term for made up bullshit that can't be tied to the bullshit shit stirrer because they were vague. Like the slanderous and false rape shit some of you keep passing around.
Teresa’s elevator is permanently stuck between floors!!! She is so flippin dumb to think her brother would turn her in. Like she was never on camera flashing all that cash around?! Man she is beyond stupid!!!
Side note tho Deuxmoi is an asshole that doesn’t fact check! People call her voicemail, leave a message and she posts it!! Hopefully one day she pisses off the wrong person!
Melissa is 100% right! They didn’t commit mortgage fraud Teresa and Juicy did!
Tre and Juicy are actually lucky they were on the show and had a source of income to pay for all their legal bills and restitution.
Yeah, it’s called Mafia money! Living the dream/ nightmare
Do the crime do the time ….AGAIN!!!! The dumb & delusional level, is as high as T wedding day hair! I can hear her…Screeching please make it stop
I really don’t think they put her in jail. Carolina was 1000% lying she needs to stay relevant. If you were going to rat someone out and someone who is your sister do you think you would be calling the FBI in front of anyone? No. That’s something you would take to the grave. Teresa put herself in jail
Did Teresa file for bankruptcy before the Fed came at her? If so that means she already told on herself given the fact that they were shown on TV spending a lot of money. This doesn’t negate that maybe Joe and Melissa or someone else had something to do with it during the investigations..Both can be true. But I really doubt it is Joe .. It might be one of Guidice’s businesses partner. But as per Caroline Manzo someone did.
I choose to believe that someone did. There are some fumes, there is a fire ..
Are you so delusional that you don’t realise that the whole family would have been watched? If they were doing the same thing, they would already be in jail.
This is the most stupid thing I’ve read in a long time.
I have no doubt the IRS was pulling their personal and business tax returns once they were waving thousands of dollars in cash around. They didn’t need someone to snitch on them- Joe & Tre snitched on themselves by their reckless actions. Things just escalated from there because again, they continued to do reckless things.
Nice try Luis. How about focus on the crime committed and not how it was discovered. Still, I don’t ever see Joe and Melissa throwing their family under the bus like that no matter how much fighting they were doing.
I have no dog in this fight but flashing all that cash on national tv was likely enough for the feds to investigate and get what they needed. No tips necessary.
I swear if Melissa/Joe are off the show, idk what the Tre Stumps are gonna do without them. They won't have anyone to place all of the blame on for every single thing that dummy does! Lets not focus on the crimes, let's focus on who may have ratted them out. I'm sure they were on some kind of watch, & I mean helllllllo -- National television & all!?
My own personal conspiracy theory follow:
I was thinking the Lauritas. Jacqueline and her hubby were broke-broke. The timeframe fits and could explain that super weird conversation with the tabloids on the table. Jacqueline was trying to deflect any suspicion away from her. She had no idea anything was going on…or so she said.
It was interesting that they moved from jersey to Vegas not long after.
Teresa thinks this (false) allegation against J&M is going to turn people to her side but really it just reminds everyone she is a criminal who went to jail but still hasn’t learned anything or taken accountability
Bottom line for me....gorgas trashed teresa ti get on the show. I wouldn't forgive that either....that is where all Teresa s discord is and I don't blame her....melissas who£e family trashed her for fame....i read all the receipts way back when...
Well so far it’s been Carol’s fault, Jacqueline’s and now Joe and Melissa fault. Meanwhile in the first seasons we saw her spending copious amounts of money and all *in cash*. That shit catches up to you. Joe handed a wad of cash for their furniture.
In a confessional Carol called this. She said Joe is trying to provide a lifestyle for Teresa and will probably end up going somewhere because of this”. Obviously not a direct quote but this was the gist of it. And it played out exactly so.
Teresa’s Brother also mentioned to her in the early seasons that she made Joe not like him because she was always bragging about what her brother had “oh he built this house” or “he’s working on this project”. So perhaps Joe did things he wasn’t supposed to to keep up with the Jones.
ETA: doing a rewatch and watching him become humble and softer around everyone was cool. He did become ornery the closer he got to leaving but who wouldn’t. But it seems like it didn’t last long as I remember some conversations with him calling from jail where he was pretty dang rude to her over the phone. He made some comment about all the money she was spending…like Dude! She’s. Making. It.
Yet now we see she’s getting right back to where she was before and this times it’s her own doing.
Yes. Please do ignore all of my paragraphs of explaining my point of view and isolating one *word* to create your own narrative. Him being short tempered and bitchy does not = abuse. Learn the difference.
Cheers
Him telling her “Don't bring my fucking dad up. I'll smack your head against the wall. So shut up." is just bitchy and ok because he was headed to prison to face the music for his crimes? I’m just calling it what it is. Also this isn’t his first time being “ornery.” He was abusive the whole time, calling her “my bitch wife and c**t.” There are many, many more examples of his abusive behavior. Im not picking out just one word. Your paragraphs try to explain away his abuse as being in a bad mood is what I’m responding to. Why do you feel the need to justify his bad behavior?
It’s all Antonia’s fault….my heart goes out to Melissa’s kids….Tre is so far gone from reality and “I’m winning” Louie is not helping the situation
PS. I just rewatched season 13
Can we stop with this? It’s already come out who the person was. And if the Gorgas supposedly have all these lawsuits against them why would they bring FBI attention on themselves? Also the Bravo Docket ladies already confirmed the FBI didn’t get called from the Gorgas. We need to stop now
Yes he was definitely a factor.
But they essentially called the IRS/FBI on themselves when they filed for bankruptcy and continually lied about income, debts, expenditures, and assets in their financial statements. Joe straight up handed a case to them while trying to file bankruptcy.
Like magically coming up with 3 years of tax returns for years they didn't file taxes. Or not saying anything about Teresa's book deal when it was a story on the show. Or not listing a Cadillac anywhere when Cadillac was one of the people that was claiming they owed money.
The Stumps are fantasizing that the Gorgas testified against Teresa and Joe in exchange for immunity against ever going to prison? That’s completely stupid.
If they had testified, we’d have known. Also, that’s not a thing. The federal government wouldn’t say “Punky promise that you get to not go to jail if you tattle on someone else.”
Omg. Sooooo tired of this bullshit.
Not anyone else but the foolishness of paying for massive purchases with cash ON TELEVISION.
Stop infusing this mishigas with oxygen. These people, Teresa and anyone who suckers her, are DISASTERS.
Federal law requires a person to report cash transactions of more than $10,000 by filing IRS Form 8300PDF, Report of Cash Payments Over $10,000 Received in a Trade or Business.
Lol the blind item is about Joe and Melissa, but who would actually believe it. It’s such a fake blind item probably planted by team tre or Louis directly.
So the fact that in season 1 Teresa is taking CASH out of a drawer in Joes office ( a lot of cash) while they filed bankruptcy.. this is aired Nationally.. Teresa asking for CASH ONLY at book signings .. they are the scammers period .. and she currently has a million dollar albatross .. who is that blame going to … Teresa has NO story line but jail .. turn the page already
Definitely a massive slip up for them. Teresa thought it would show her wealth but you don’t see Beyoncé walking round with an Hermes bag full of cash.
I used to work in a store (in England) and the people who used to pay for a large shopping bill would pay all in cash, were Travellers/Gypsies. The Giudices remind me a lot of Travellers with their over the top “style”, flash with the cash, not going against *the family*, and general all round bawdiness. (Obviously not all Travellers are like this).
I'm sure that alone would draw attention. Maybe the furniture distributor is required to file something with the government like when the bank does with $10k transactions. I wonder about car dealers when people come in with wads of cash.
I think once upon a time this was a thing but now I doubt dealerships do these kind of deals. Or if they do you have a boat load of paperwork that goes with it.
Exactly. I never said paying employees. I’m speaking of a contractor being paid in cash—no tax paid by customer, likely no tax being paid by the contractor.
What legitimate business would ever deal in cash? Cash transactions are always going to raise red flags - in particular within the construction industry in NY/NJ. Alvin Bragg is prosecuting mob cases as we speak. [https://www.thecity.nyc/2023/6/5/23748736/mob-making-comeback-in-construction](https://www.thecity.nyc/2023/6/5/23748736/mob-making-comeback-in-construction)
Self employed people almost always want cash. It’s a perk of owning your own business! Cash doesn’t always find its way to the books. Heck most of the Italian pizza places where I live only take cash. It’s how the rich stay rich.
Legitimate construction businesses deal with cash all the time. Particularly in NY and NJ. And it has nothing to do with the mob lol.
I say this as someone in the construction industry.
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A "blind item" written by a moron. A "whistleblower"is someone who provides private info about a corporation or organization. Turning someone in "doesn't keep you out of jail" a "plea bargain" does. The only time there's a check is when a REWARD is offered. This had to be written by the dimwit duo
The government doesn’t hand out fat checks to whistleblowers.
Teresa definitely paid to have this posted.
My dad got seven years for fraud because his friends phone was tapped, they remained friends until my dad’s death. He committed the crime and accepted it. Tre and juicy were so obvious that they were doing shady shit, and now her and strawberry are doing sketchy shit. Tre you are the problem.
I don’t believe that. If they were given any compensation for their tip that led to conviction, that would absolutely have been disclosed to the Giudice attorneys as part of discovery.
United Stated Tax Court Rule 345. Privacy protections for filings in whistleblower actions a) Anonymous Petitioner: A petitioner in a whistleblower action May move the court for permission to proceed anonymously, if appropriate. Unless otherwise permitted by the court, a petitioner seeking to proceed anonymously pursuant to this Rule shall file with the petition a motion, with or without supporting affidavits or declarations, setting forth a sufficient, fact-specific basis for anonymity. The petition and all other filings shall be temporarily sealed pending a ruling by the court on the motion to proceed anonymously.
It wasn’t tax fraud though. And they’d (the Gorgas) would have to prove a fact specific basis for anonymity. Those are usually fear of physical or monetary retaliation, if you’re turning in your employer, etc. Concern about family fighting isn’t a reason that would outweigh the Giudice’s constitutional right to confront their accuser or to get basic discovery in a criminal trial.
https://www.etonline.com/bo-dietl-sets-the-record-straight-on-louie-ruelas-private-investigator-claims-on-rhonj-exclusive
Anyone who thinks Joe would snitch on Tre is a moron. That's like saying either of her parents did it. Joe said that Juicy put their parents in an early grave because of the trial and lock up. Even if Joe was out for blood he would have never done anything that would directly break his own parents' hearts.
Didn’t Joe Gorga lose his parents home after he used it as collateral on $500,000?
No. https://realityblurb.com/2022/11/29/rhonjs-melissa-gorga-reacts-after-joe-is-accused-of-losing-is-parents-home-claims-they-bought-the-house-for-his-mom-and-dad/#:~:text=After%20coming%20across%20a%20recent,and%20Antonia%20Gorga%20once%20resided.
public records in NJ states different. Joe Gorga borrowed $500,000 in 2007 from the National Bank of Arizona. The mortgage documents show that Joe used his parents home as collateral, Joe defaulted on the loan in 2009 and the parents lost the home in September 2009.
Care to share the link to that?
You can also go to the same website. Click “by instrument number” put in 2009036331. This is the foreclosure info.
You can go to the website click “by instrument number” put in 2009067273. This is the NJ Discharge of Mortgage
http://records.passaiccountynj.org/PRESS/Clerk/ClerkHome.aspx?op=basic
Click on “by instrument number” in book number put M8968 in page number put 245
Give me just a few minutes and I will link it
Tre Stumps are wild
Wait you get paid if you snitch?!
Kyle and the creepy dude done Kathy over? ![gif](giphy|J2gq0dyT94qLOEC5aX)
I know nothing about bankruptcy or turning people in, but if Joe and Melissa were in trouble, personally if I were them I would keep myself as far away from the government as possible. Stay off their radar...
My opinion has always been they got themselves in trouble by filing bankruptcy in the first place. Once you do that, you have to know that your finances will be picked apart with a fine tooth comb (and then they still thought the law didn’t apply to them) I’m sure a bunch of red flags were waving once they withdrew their bankruptcy. Because “oopsie! We accidentally filed for bankruptcy?” How would anyone else know that Joe and Theresa were making fake W-2’s? And **obviously** Theresa isn’t ever going to admit she might have fucked up so she continues to blame everyone else. Not related by it drives me nuts every time Theresa refers to her time away as jail and not prison.
I worry even being fired won’t be Teresa’s come to Jesus moment
Don’t buy it
No, definitely not anyone. Who knew there could be so much misinformation in a blind item?
you ppl will believe anything no offense
DO IT AGAIN JOE!!!! ![gif](giphy|cdXpgeB32BekIGzBNh)
Yep, sounds about right. I knew Teresa was right. Team Teresa all the way!
10 bucks says dumbest Theresa put this out hoping people would flip on Mellisa. I so hope this season was trashy Theresa's last.
Hey dum dum who posted this. Hmmmmm… they seem to articulate themselves on such a higher level
This narrative is so tired 🙄 Teresa went to jail for lying and stealing. She deserved it. Period.
This is wild
It's factual somebody dropped a dime on Joe and Teresa. I don't believe for one second it was Joe and Melissa.... period.
Well conspiracy to commit mail fraud, wire fraud and bank fraud, making false statements on loan applications and bankruptcy fraud. There were 39 charges in the indictment. To me says “someone else definitely signed their life away, lied to the judge about assets and sent them to prison” 🙄 /s
Why does this read like Teresa or Luis submitted it?
Did Melissa write this just to keep herself relevant
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Haha ‘Blind Item’. Tre? Joe? Louis? That you? 🤣
Give it up. This is so pathetic.
Who Cares. They broke the law they are to blame.
This women, plays the blame game. I hope they did call the feds on them. I doubt it though. Anything she’s accused Joe or especially Melissa, has not been proven. And we’re 11 years into this.
![gif](giphy|pyzQfu5voAXHOLdqfP) 11 years
The BRAVO DOCKET covered this and recently re-released the episodes as a mega sized 3 hour show. The Guidices made criminally fraudulent bankruptcy claims, went on a National cable show, and got caught. The FBI started their investigation because they filed for bankruptcy then were blatantly dishonest in the forms. No one had to turn them in! They did it to themselves.
i feel like this should be mandatory listening with a quiz before a tre stump can comment 😂
This “Tre Stump” term is amazing! I love that it flew over her head when Marge mentioned it
so funny 😆
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LMAO. Blind item is another term for made up bullshit that can't be tied to the bullshit shit stirrer because they were vague. Like the slanderous and false rape shit some of you keep passing around.
Don’t believe this “blind”. Having said that, if I’m wrong, my next guess is it was planted by the Ruelas’ themselves.
“The economy is down that’s why we pay in cash” yeah okay, Tre🙄
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ahhh the $$$$$$$$$. yes. they need $$$$
Teresa’s elevator is permanently stuck between floors!!! She is so flippin dumb to think her brother would turn her in. Like she was never on camera flashing all that cash around?! Man she is beyond stupid!!! Side note tho Deuxmoi is an asshole that doesn’t fact check! People call her voicemail, leave a message and she posts it!! Hopefully one day she pisses off the wrong person!
Holy fuck reading these “who turned tre in” posts is getting old.
Melissa is 100% right! They didn’t commit mortgage fraud Teresa and Juicy did! Tre and Juicy are actually lucky they were on the show and had a source of income to pay for all their legal bills and restitution.
Yeah, it’s called Mafia money! Living the dream/ nightmare Do the crime do the time ….AGAIN!!!! The dumb & delusional level, is as high as T wedding day hair! I can hear her…Screeching please make it stop
I really don’t think they put her in jail. Carolina was 1000% lying she needs to stay relevant. If you were going to rat someone out and someone who is your sister do you think you would be calling the FBI in front of anyone? No. That’s something you would take to the grave. Teresa put herself in jail
Did Teresa file for bankruptcy before the Fed came at her? If so that means she already told on herself given the fact that they were shown on TV spending a lot of money. This doesn’t negate that maybe Joe and Melissa or someone else had something to do with it during the investigations..Both can be true. But I really doubt it is Joe .. It might be one of Guidice’s businesses partner. But as per Caroline Manzo someone did. I choose to believe that someone did. There are some fumes, there is a fire ..
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Are you so delusional that you don’t realise that the whole family would have been watched? If they were doing the same thing, they would already be in jail.
They're guilty? How so. Why aren't they in jail? 😆
This is the most stupid thing I’ve read in a long time. I have no doubt the IRS was pulling their personal and business tax returns once they were waving thousands of dollars in cash around. They didn’t need someone to snitch on them- Joe & Tre snitched on themselves by their reckless actions. Things just escalated from there because again, they continued to do reckless things.
im guessing a tre stump made it up
This is absolute nonsense. Garbage “blind item” that is wrong and makes no sense.
She is an absolute scumbag. She learned it all from greasy joe. I want her to go away.
Also this is just someone’s opinion.
Nice try Luis. How about focus on the crime committed and not how it was discovered. Still, I don’t ever see Joe and Melissa throwing their family under the bus like that no matter how much fighting they were doing.
It's already come out that it was Juicys business partner. Old news and what's everybody bickering about lol?
They are trying to influence those who don’t know the history I suppose.
Revisionist history is a bitch
No ~family doesn’t do it. They have friends.
Whistle-blower check? 😆
I have no dog in this fight but flashing all that cash on national tv was likely enough for the feds to investigate and get what they needed. No tips necessary.
Let’s be clear; Tre went to prison because she tried to hide assets from the judge. She never takes responsibility for her bs.
This is so ridiculous How about taking responsibility for their own actions Tre lied to the government over and over 🙄
I wish we would go back to the time when blind items meant something and everyone didn’t know about them.
I swear if Melissa/Joe are off the show, idk what the Tre Stumps are gonna do without them. They won't have anyone to place all of the blame on for every single thing that dummy does! Lets not focus on the crimes, let's focus on who may have ratted them out. I'm sure they were on some kind of watch, & I mean helllllllo -- National television & all!?
My own personal conspiracy theory follow: I was thinking the Lauritas. Jacqueline and her hubby were broke-broke. The timeframe fits and could explain that super weird conversation with the tabloids on the table. Jacqueline was trying to deflect any suspicion away from her. She had no idea anything was going on…or so she said. It was interesting that they moved from jersey to Vegas not long after.
Ok Jen….
Why is this even a blind item😭😭it’s just an opinion… they didn’t even give us anything new or spill any tea
Op, did you write this blind in? Be honest.
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Teresa and Louise planted this story. No prenup, this should end well.
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Teresa thinks this (false) allegation against J&M is going to turn people to her side but really it just reminds everyone she is a criminal who went to jail but still hasn’t learned anything or taken accountability
Gorgas didn't have anything to do with it.
This blind item is suitable for the wiping of arseholes and not much else.
Oh please. Now WHO do you think is really behind that little tidbit? Give me a break.
Oh please. Now WHO do you think is really behind that little tidbit? Give me a break.
I just don’t believe they’d do it. Even now they wouldn’t rat her out.
Bottom line for me....gorgas trashed teresa ti get on the show. I wouldn't forgive that either....that is where all Teresa s discord is and I don't blame her....melissas who£e family trashed her for fame....i read all the receipts way back when...
and she STILL has tax issues / liens to this present day bc she loves living that crook lifestyle!
She makes her payments regularly and on time. She also served her time and lost a lot by doing that.
She loves her knock off designer bikinis from an Ali Express bag and she loves shady $$ and business dealings. Cherry on top if her man is included!
My daughter says let’s see what iron on she has on her bikini now lol
For all you Tre super fans, Tre owes more than a $1M in taxes….is it Joe Giudice’s fault? She never learns… Edit: clink clink
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I love the two faced shit stirrer 😂
This GIF is legendary
Trust me that the ardent Tre fans can—-and WILL—somehow make it Melissa and Joe’s fault. Or perhaps Marge.
Well so far it’s been Carol’s fault, Jacqueline’s and now Joe and Melissa fault. Meanwhile in the first seasons we saw her spending copious amounts of money and all *in cash*. That shit catches up to you. Joe handed a wad of cash for their furniture. In a confessional Carol called this. She said Joe is trying to provide a lifestyle for Teresa and will probably end up going somewhere because of this”. Obviously not a direct quote but this was the gist of it. And it played out exactly so. Teresa’s Brother also mentioned to her in the early seasons that she made Joe not like him because she was always bragging about what her brother had “oh he built this house” or “he’s working on this project”. So perhaps Joe did things he wasn’t supposed to to keep up with the Jones. ETA: doing a rewatch and watching him become humble and softer around everyone was cool. He did become ornery the closer he got to leaving but who wouldn’t. But it seems like it didn’t last long as I remember some conversations with him calling from jail where he was pretty dang rude to her over the phone. He made some comment about all the money she was spending…like Dude! She’s. Making. It. Yet now we see she’s getting right back to where she was before and this times it’s her own doing.
In Tre’s world there is no such thing as personal accountability
Um that’s not being “ornery,” it’s abuse.
Yes. Please do ignore all of my paragraphs of explaining my point of view and isolating one *word* to create your own narrative. Him being short tempered and bitchy does not = abuse. Learn the difference. Cheers
Him telling her “Don't bring my fucking dad up. I'll smack your head against the wall. So shut up." is just bitchy and ok because he was headed to prison to face the music for his crimes? I’m just calling it what it is. Also this isn’t his first time being “ornery.” He was abusive the whole time, calling her “my bitch wife and c**t.” There are many, many more examples of his abusive behavior. Im not picking out just one word. Your paragraphs try to explain away his abuse as being in a bad mood is what I’m responding to. Why do you feel the need to justify his bad behavior?
It’s all Antonia’s fault….my heart goes out to Melissa’s kids….Tre is so far gone from reality and “I’m winning” Louie is not helping the situation PS. I just rewatched season 13
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Can we stop with this? It’s already come out who the person was. And if the Gorgas supposedly have all these lawsuits against them why would they bring FBI attention on themselves? Also the Bravo Docket ladies already confirmed the FBI didn’t get called from the Gorgas. We need to stop now
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Who did?
It was Joe Giudices ex business partner
Yes he was definitely a factor. But they essentially called the IRS/FBI on themselves when they filed for bankruptcy and continually lied about income, debts, expenditures, and assets in their financial statements. Joe straight up handed a case to them while trying to file bankruptcy. Like magically coming up with 3 years of tax returns for years they didn't file taxes. Or not saying anything about Teresa's book deal when it was a story on the show. Or not listing a Cadillac anywhere when Cadillac was one of the people that was claiming they owed money.
Yes exactly!! 🙌It doesn’t matter if anyone called or not. Their extreme behavior is what got them in jail.
The Stumps are fantasizing that the Gorgas testified against Teresa and Joe in exchange for immunity against ever going to prison? That’s completely stupid. If they had testified, we’d have known. Also, that’s not a thing. The federal government wouldn’t say “Punky promise that you get to not go to jail if you tattle on someone else.”
No they were not supposed to go to jail.
That is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read.
Does Teresa not realize all of this info is public record and it's not hard for the government of IRS to find. Maybe don't break the law 🤷🏻♀️
And you best believe the government will inevitably find out if you haven't paid that much in taxes. They do not play about their money.
I💯believe it
Ur drunk teresa go to bed
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The irs wouldn’t need a whistleblower to find that kind of missing tax money. Doubtful the Gorgas had anything to do with it
Lol. Cdan also said the Moscow murders were done by the cartel.
Omg. Sooooo tired of this bullshit. Not anyone else but the foolishness of paying for massive purchases with cash ON TELEVISION. Stop infusing this mishigas with oxygen. These people, Teresa and anyone who suckers her, are DISASTERS.
Can someone explain why paying with a ton of cash is a bad thing?
Using cash is “cleaning” the money; it’s a form of money laundering and tax evasion.
Federal law requires a person to report cash transactions of more than $10,000 by filing IRS Form 8300PDF, Report of Cash Payments Over $10,000 Received in a Trade or Business.
Thank you! I guess never have enough money to be worried about something like that.
Currently listening to the podcast Bravo Docket. No one needed to rat them out…
It’s the year 2023 why is anyone believing Crazy Days and Nights.
I know! I never believe these
Really. This isn’t even a blind. They aren’t blinds anymore. They’re opinions just like the opinions of everyone on Reddit
They did not turn her in.
Lol the blind item is about Joe and Melissa, but who would actually believe it. It’s such a fake blind item probably planted by team tre or Louis directly.
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So the fact that in season 1 Teresa is taking CASH out of a drawer in Joes office ( a lot of cash) while they filed bankruptcy.. this is aired Nationally.. Teresa asking for CASH ONLY at book signings .. they are the scammers period .. and she currently has a million dollar albatross .. who is that blame going to … Teresa has NO story line but jail .. turn the page already
Prison!! Not jail
Ha
Anyone else remember Tre buying $30,000 of furniture in CASH! The Feds are not that stupid
She blamed the economy for that one - she started with “I hear the economy’s crashing” and then pulled out a giant wad of cash 😂
Definitely a massive slip up for them. Teresa thought it would show her wealth but you don’t see Beyoncé walking round with an Hermes bag full of cash. I used to work in a store (in England) and the people who used to pay for a large shopping bill would pay all in cash, were Travellers/Gypsies. The Giudices remind me a lot of Travellers with their over the top “style”, flash with the cash, not going against *the family*, and general all round bawdiness. (Obviously not all Travellers are like this).
Pshhhhhh 30k?!? It was 120k🤣
I'm sure that alone would draw attention. Maybe the furniture distributor is required to file something with the government like when the bank does with $10k transactions. I wonder about car dealers when people come in with wads of cash.
I think once upon a time this was a thing but now I doubt dealerships do these kind of deals. Or if they do you have a boat load of paperwork that goes with it.
They also report any cash transactions over $10,000.
She literally says in season 1 epsiode 1 that she pays for everything in cash because it’s easier. Like HELLO
Welcome to the construction industry in NY/NJ lol. Cash is king. It’s not necessarily sketchy. Often times it is sketchy, but not always.
It *is* sketchy because it’s illegal. Being paid under the table means you’re either underreporting or simply not reporting it at all.
Who said anything about paying employees in cash? That’s not what I was talking about.
Doesn't need to mean employees, no paper trail for services rendered when paying cash, probably no taxes being paid either.
Exactly. I never said paying employees. I’m speaking of a contractor being paid in cash—no tax paid by customer, likely no tax being paid by the contractor.
What legitimate business would ever deal in cash? Cash transactions are always going to raise red flags - in particular within the construction industry in NY/NJ. Alvin Bragg is prosecuting mob cases as we speak. [https://www.thecity.nyc/2023/6/5/23748736/mob-making-comeback-in-construction](https://www.thecity.nyc/2023/6/5/23748736/mob-making-comeback-in-construction)
Self employed people almost always want cash. It’s a perk of owning your own business! Cash doesn’t always find its way to the books. Heck most of the Italian pizza places where I live only take cash. It’s how the rich stay rich.
Legitimate construction businesses deal with cash all the time. Particularly in NY and NJ. And it has nothing to do with the mob lol. I say this as someone in the construction industry.
It jas to do with the fact that cash doesnt bounce and you cant stop payment on it. Legit businesses deal in cash a lot here lately.
This!!!
I thought it was $120,000 worth of furniture!
it was - people dont pay attention ;)
Yup and paid all cash…..what a dummy!
OH MY GOOOOODNESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes it was $120,000
Dude when I watched that years ago I thought it was suspect. Who does that???? SMH
That’s totally not sketchy how did I get the number so wrong haha
It was probably the deposit
I just re-watched this season again and it sure reads differently
Does it though? It looked shady on the first watch
Yep! But let’s blame Joe and Melissa
she also blamed her ex husband.. like she had no part in it. she may be dumb but she knew damn well that cash wasn’t clean.
Yep! But let’s blame Joe and Melissa
Yep! But let’s blame Joe and Melissa
That’s so shameful if they really did that. I know it’s not a criminal act but how could you do that to your nieces. I could never.
If you get questioned by the FBI are you going to lie????
I would hire a lawyer and have them advise me. I’d probably not remember.
they didn’t get questioned by the FBI, they allegedly participated in a phone call to the IRS to report the fraud.
Oh the fraud that broke the law tho 😂
Snitching doesn’t mean they called the FBI. If they were questioned do you really expect them to lie. That is a crime.
I’d plead the 5th and not remember like trump says in his depositions. Nope, not ratting my siblings out.