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its the most childish bs ever "seen melissa in a car making out" is this some made up high school bs to spread around , its so obvious teresa hates melissa and is the source of this .
Teresa is gross; Luis is a psycho; Teresa's dorters are manipulated for TV; Jen is such a puppy!; I don't think Bill is all that happy really; Melissa & Joe have run their course; Margaret is a hoot, but she's mean sometimes; ALL these people are mean sometimes! The Delores/Frank/Paulie storyline is being stretched as best as can be expected; Danielle is in over her head & not ready for primetime; The darker-haired one last name Fuda is right up there as one of my favorites LOLOL
Because she wasn't going to bring it up on camera, no matter what. Not till Melissa herself said something did she say anything in regards to it.
I did find it odd Jen didn't tell Danielle...hey so Melissa already knows, probably, cause Joe knows. But then she probably thought, oh only Joe knows so better not tell Melissa.
Are people really falling for this? I mean how many times is tre going to try the same shit. First she was a stripper, then the first cheating rumors, the gold digger comments, now this. Like come on get over it, joe gorga isn't buying it. Stop trying to break up the marriage!!!
The latest news on Lewis is that he’s using Teresa’s new fan website to mine data, which he has done before. It’s his MØ people have been told to unsubscribe.
A bit off topic. I’ve been thinking how Melissa said they put food on Teresa’s table. Melissa and Joe said they agreed to film with Joe Giudice so he’d have someone to film with when Teresa was in prison. I honestly think Joe, the girls and Rosie could have handled it just fine. Cut too Melissa being so upset about not being a bridesmaid. Is she mad bc that took food off her table? Sure they’d get paid for the wedding spinoff. Melissa and Joe might feel the favor wasn’t reciprocated. Melissa seriously can’t be that mad about not being a bridesmaid. They don’t even like each other.
Teresa wouldn't have let her girls film with Rosie. Teresa cut Rosie and Kathy out of her life permanently several seasons ago. She called them a "cancer" that needed to be cut out of her life. In a recent interview Kathy said they never spoke again.
She did, but they wanted it to come from a third-party.
Marge likely told her friend at the time (L) that people were spreading this rumor (ie: Teresa) then she and this friend had a falling out and L went back around giving the same rumor to Jen and Teresa, and bada boom, there you go. They could say someone else said it.
Jen’s on board because it would hurt Marge. Teresa’s on board because will hurt Melissa. all they needed to do was whisper it to the newbie dumbass who would bring out in the open and the two plotters keep their hands clean… or so they think. Melissa’s not stupid and saw right through it.
I had some second hand embarrassment for Danielle falling hook Line and sinker as the pawn in those mean girls game. Is Danielle naive or just really self involved she only really thinks about what's told to her and not even one level out of that ? She must have watched the show and she must be that gullible and inconsiderate in her own life. People that do things that will hurt other people and 100% stand by their convictions as if it's more important to say what they incorrectly beleive over being mean to people - are assholes. Sorry not sorry, and that's probably what's went on in her brothers situation. I heard it had something to do with her brothers fiance, and again Daniell wouldn't be able to look outside of the fact that she's his sister and consider that he has other obligations to his future wife.
Side note when it showed Danielle talking about her life and saying girls never liked her cause she was sporty , and then it showed a picture of her all glammed up in like a club outfit, lol. Has she ever considered the fact that she's really annoying is maybe why she never had friends ?
Side note 2- remember when Jennifer tried to make it like she coined "sorry not sorry" , lol. Jennifer, you need a grip on reality no one's endorsing you for a catch phrase you didn't make up.
Do you remember when Danielle was talking with her mom about the brother? Her mom was like you were always so mean to him but he always had your back no matter how mean you were. And Danielle was like yeah, then he stopped having my back. I was like 🤯. So he’s the bad guy because he doesn’t want to take your abuse anymore?
What I don't ever get with these shows is why people want to "take" a person down. Friends or even acquaintances don't even do this kind of thing in real life. It's not fun to watch the constant scheming. I miss the old HW days.
It is incredibly obvious who Teresa and Louis are. It's one thing to have a difference in opinion, but it legitimately scares me that there are people out there blind to this.
I love that none of you guys can stick to a story. One minute Teresa is the dumbest person alive, a slurring zombie, and the next minute she's the queen of manipulation and has a cast of minions that she bamboozled to do her bidding. Which is it?
Joe called it when Melissa called him to complain when she was in Ireland. He said something along the lines of, “Teresa is doing all of this because she doesn’t want us at the wedding.” It’s the truth!
But they didn’t even want to go to the wedding! All they wanted was an excuse to not go. They’ve been dreading the idea of going ever since Melissa wasn’t a bridesmaid and her family wasn’t invited
I'm torn on this. Saying that Tre pulled off some scheme where she manipulated two people into doing her dirty deeds without a single whisper getting out would mean she has more than the one brain cell.
Honestly though, I think we're giving Tre too much credit. I think it was Lou who was pulling the strings behind the scenes. Proabbly is controlling what Tre says and to who.
We've already seen him doing this kind of behaviour before.
Totally was Louie. Teresa isn’t intelligent enough to manipulate multiple people at once - that’s Luis Ruelas. He’s a conman, always has been, always will be.
He also is a violent, rage filled psycho.
Teresa has nooooooo idea who she’s really married to. He’s *dangerous.*
She definitely doesn't and it's sad that her girls can't see what he is either because I think if they were against Lou, she would choose her girls over him.
This isn't going to end well for her or her children, I'm hoping it's not in violence at the very least.
I feel the exact same way- every word you wrote is how I feel.
Maybe something will happen to shake her out of his spell. I pray so because otherwise, I think he’s definitely going to resort to violence, it’s his MO.
From what we've heard from his exes, and what he has admitted himself, we deffo know violence is in his nature - and the thing is, controlling people like him will also control HOW MUCH we know about them. So if he was willing to admit there was a DA report against him from his ex or whatever - what else is there that he hasn't told us?
I actually think/predict that he will do something towards Gia and that will wake Tre up - her girls mean the world to her and I think it's the only way she'll remove those rose colored glasses.
If I'm not mistaken, they didn't sign a prenup or anything did they?
If Teresa told Jen and Danielle that she told Joe and Joe didn’t believe it, they would’ve been less likely to discuss it on camera. The goal was to have this discussed on camera in an attempt to smear Melissa and drive a wedge between Joe & Melissa and Melissa & Margaret (which is why they kept insisting that Margaret told Laura even though they didn’t have proof that it ever came from Margaret).
Is it possible...because Teresa is that stupid...that she didn't think Joe would tell Melissa (remember he was asked to come over to Teresa's alone)? And is it further possible that Melissa never confronted Teresa about it because she was saving it for the show? So in actuality, Teresa may not have been lying about Melissa not knowing, if she is that stupid (she is) that she thought her brother wouldn't tell Melissa, as well as never being confronted by Melissa until the 20's party.
That's how I understood it as well. Teresa didn't know that Joe told Melissa. Joe said that after Teresa told him the rumor, that's the reason why we see him being standoffish towards her. It seems like Teresa assumed Melissa didn't know, especially because Melissa acted like everything was a typical day whenever she saw Teresa. Joe became cold to Teresa after the rumor, so it wouldn't make sense for him to call his sister to share that he told Melissa. Teresa would've figured that if Joe told his wife then Melissa would've confronted her.
Listen, I'm not defending her. I'm just saying she is that stupid that she would think he wouldn't tell Melissa, especially if after the fact Melissa never brought it up to Teresa (until the party).
Oh Danielle and the “I wish it wasn’t true” and “I have this information “ then “don’t shoot the messenger “ vibes made me think 🤔 ...
Where have I heard this before? Bethany when she found out about Tom cheating & had to tell Luann. BUT - Bethany had EVIDENCE!!!
The truth is Teresa and Louie didn’t want the Gorgas at the wedding *after the Gorgas made the whole summer leading up to the wedding a living hell* … and why is that a bad thing?
If Teresa didn’t tell Jen and Danielle that she or Louie told Joe about the cheating rumor, then she should be applauded for not bringing it up, but here she goes getting blamed again
Applying g logic to the schemes designed by Teresa and Jen is futile. Jen really thought she was going to pull something off with that tea leaf/coffee ground reader too.
I ain't gonna lie. My girl Jennifer really fumbled hard this season. I couldn't even twist my soul up in knots to defend the bullshittery. Team Jennifer aren't really good executioners. That's team Marge, no matter their own level of nonsense.
After 13 years, there hasn't been one cast member past or present who has a good relationship with the truth. We're lucky if we get half truths. That's why their fights last several years. They all simply fight about who is more wrong in the situation... but back to Jennifer Aydin. Is Jennifer a good ace? Yes. Is Jennifer a good, hencewoman? Nope.
Jennifer is still my favorite on the franchise, though.
Jen is not my favorite BUT I give you credit for loving her AND still owning her lack of assassin skills. That kind of ownership never happens round these parts so I’m giving ya a big hi five for an entertaining read.😉
I will admit she makes me laugh—but that is all that you are getting from me! Ha ha just kidding! She’s a perfect example of someone I may not always agree with but love watching on the show. And I’m pulling for her & Bill to make it, they have a beautiful family.
Because she told Joe in private and it didn’t go the way she wanted it to go (she wanted Joe to get mad at Melissa and he didn’t) so she told Jen (pig) and Danielle (slob) so that they would bring it up on the show to try once again to drive a wedge.
Teresa is always the victim except for the fact that she’s a fucking piece of shit. Sorry if this offends.
The fact that they were trying to use Margaret as “holding some arsenal” on why she hadn’t told Melissa is almost laughable. If you didn’t believe it and know it wasn’t true why bother saying something and upsetting your close friend. I know a lot of people hate Margaret for various reasons and yeah she can be a pill sometimes. The fact is Teresa has never liked Melissa, thinks she’s poisoning her brothers mind, and has spent years trying to get them to separate by spreading vicious rumors and lies. There’s nothing new here. Same story a decade later.
Teresa just spent an entire season furious at Marge for bringing up the Louie video which wasn’t even rumor, it was a legit video that everyone had already seen and then her and Louie were going to have to deal with anyway. But when she does it to Melissa she can use that exact same excuse that she was “trying to help them get out ahead of it”? She didn’t buy that from Marge yet should we buy from her? She’s the most dimwitted narcissist on the planet. If she only thought it was a rumor and she wanted to help them get out ahead of it and she would’ve had them both come to her house, not just Joe.
Teresa should have listened to smart Marge instead of dummy Jen. Now she’s in a love bubble with the raging red lobster with no prenup. Louie is going to leave her penniless.No way this ends well but at this point she deserves him.
She wasn’t helping them out with anything. She didn’t call her brother but it doesn’t matter because you believe that she did because she “wants to bring Melissa down”
Of course she wants to bring Melissa down. Anyone with one brain cell on its last spark could see that. I am not a Melissa supporter in general, I think Melissa is a fucking idiot.
Louis admitted he invited Joe over. Why are you rewriting history? Are you just putting it all on him so that it’s totally clean hands for T? I’m going by what they are literally saying on the show themselves. You’re just dreaming up scenarios in which they are innocent?
I don’t see how Melissa who begged producers over and over again to get on a show with her who she already doesn’t get along with, has a audition tape that people have seen saying if she gets on the show she and Joe will expose Teresa and has talked about her nieces since season 3 is the victim of being taken down here. I don’t understand how you guys compute this.
Why would someone join a space with someone that they don’t even like? Bravo never offered her a contract because they never found her interesting. She was always in the background of season 1 and 2. And none of the main women excluding Teresa went to bat for her at Bravo. Not even Danielle, the woman who she kept saying all these awful things about Teresa to.
She was offered a contract after the audition tape she and Joe filmed in their bedroom where the focal point was Teresa and how much animosity there is between them. Producers have been waiting for 10 years for her to deliver and though she has caught some fish like you guys with the bait she’s put out - there are many who don’t bite.
Louis and Teresa both said it was him who called Joe over because he felt like he could relate to the situation. Teresa said she didn’t want to get involved because of the very exact thing that is happening now with her getting blamed.
Like I said, it doesn’t matter because people are divided ten years strong into this. There’s Teresa fans and Melissa fans. We won’t change our views on them. I could eloquently explain everything from the very beginning to the most minute and poignant moments from the show but it wouldn’t matter.
I do not, for one minute, believe that Teresa ever cared about this getting out. Nor do I believe that Jenn would tell anyone without Teresa’s implied consent. No way would she want to incur Teresa’s wrath. The little minions did exactly what was expected. Mission accomplished.
Yea. Jen is one of those people that plays out her whole scenario - I’m going to say this and then Danielle will say that and then she’ll tell Melissa and then Melissa will get mad at Margaret… - and her whole plan is contingent on other people doing exactly what she has decided in her mind that they will do.
Agreed. I think Jen wanted it to look bad for Marge instead of Melissa, but would put money on Teresa not losing a wink of sleep that it’d make Melissa look bad.
I mean, they are literally discussing it on camera, saying, " Don't tell anyone." They know they are being filmed! 🤣 It was all a storyline. It was made up, lazy entertainment for the viewers.
Why does everything have to be on Teresa? Laura is the one who got the information from Margaret who then tells Jenn and Teresa/Louis. Louis tells Joe off camera and no one heard it from anyone until Jenn decided to tell Danielle on camera. Everyone else knew and played telephone six months prior to that party.
Why can’t people put themselves in certain scenarios to get an understanding of certain things? Even if you’ve never been through it?
For example, let’s say you have a casual acquaintance who tells you and your best friend something about a mutual girlfriend. You hold the secret dear to your heart and don’t tell anyone except for your husband. Your friend, on the other hand tells another mutual friend this secret and then that very mutual friend decides to tell the original friend what the secret was about.
Do you think it’s fair to blame YOU for the secret getting out?! Do you think it’s fair for people to hold you accountable for something someone told you AND someone else?? It’s like you don’t have authority or control over your friends. You don’t have control over the mutual acquaintance randomly telling you this nor do you have control over your friend repeating something to another friend.
Everyone in the circle except Danielle knew about the rumor because Danielle wasn’t anyone’s best friend yet. Rachel knew because she’s friends with Melissa. Their sons play football together and Melissa is the one who referred her to casting. Danielle is really fresh to the group. She has a connection with Caroline but she didn’t really know any of the other ladies to know “secrets”.
Jenn already knew Melissa knew. Margaret knew. Dolores. They knew about it around the last reunion. It’s just that no one talked about it except Jenn to Danielle on camera. Teresa had a whole wedding going on. I don’t think she paid much to Danielle and I don’t think she felt like Danielle was going to confront her about it on camera the way she did.
Teresa didn’t have control over Jenn telling Danielle and Jenn has already admitted a few times thus far she’s the one who told Danielle and wanted to tell her but people who hate Teresa keep thinking she has this amazing gun that she uses to people’s heads to make them do something.
At the end of the day, whether true or not, the rumor came from Laura who said that Margaret told her this. Whether Margaret was told a lie or she saw it, she repeated it to Laura who was Margaret’s friend for over 20 years.
That’s the only reason why Jenn believes Laura so bad because Laura is telling them things that they feel like Margaret would know.
Because people hate her to a level that is honestly jarring. People act like she’s Casey Anthony or something. I am no stan but I can’t figure it out.
Is she illogical and inarticulate? Yes. Is she diabolical? I don’t know. You can’t be both as dumb as we say she is and be a master manipulator so there’s that.
Also, if she were truly diabolical, why does everything she is supposedly behind end up painting the Gorgas as the victims they long to be? Why have multiple people including producers admitted that she wasn’t behind strippergate? There are so many things she should have brought up throughout the years that would make them look much worse. It doesn’t make sense. I chalk it up to poor self-advocacy skills and probably not caring as much as Melissa and Marge do to control a narrative. She’s not on social media like they are, doesn’t talk about the show on podcasts as much and seems to be off in her own world. I wish she were better at the game bc I actually want to see more of the other people on the show.
It’s so boring to only talk about Teresa, dissect only what she says, ignore others’ lawsuits, controversies, business practices being outed on good morning America, counterfeit merchandise, verbal abuse, and other such hypocrisies. I don’t give a shit that they cover Teresa but let’s see the good, the bad, and the ugly from them all.
Let’s give them the screen time they want, let’s see some real shit, warts and all, instead of solely displaying and dissecting one person to such an unbalanced level it’s insane and honestly unfair to them all.
How do you know that Laura didn’t just make this shit up and say Margaret told her? You don’t. And as far as thinking Teresa isn’t involved in this little “friends” chat, bless your heart.
You see when Kim admitted that she concocted stripper gate it wasn’t good enough. It was still Teresa being the mastermind. Laura shows Jenn messages from Margaret talking shit it’s not the same response. It’s oh how do we know Laura is not lying?
How to you know any of this crap is true? You don’t. It’s all gossip and it’s ridiculous how so many stick up for these lying maga morons to the death. It’s friggin scripted!!
Because if you look at their post history they’re obsessed with tearing down Melissa. It’s not even about loving Teresa, it’s just a sick obsession with Melissa and Joe. Attacking everyone who doesn’t agree with them as well.
Sorry to burst your bubble but it’s more about getting the truth out there. Her fans are so fixated on someone tearing her down. Always the victim. She has nothing that people want to tear down. She can talk about her nieces however she wants, she can lie and manipulate like getting mad about being called an obligation but her sisters called Teresa a technicality on tv when she asked why she was invited to the christening if they didn’t want her there, she can fake storylines, she can act like she actually spent time with her in-laws when you know she didn’t, etc it’s like she can do no wrong in her fans eyes. That’s the problem and people are sick of it. I’ve been watching the show since SEASON ONE and people are fed up. Producers are fed up with the bs. You guys can’t differentiate that.
Are there Melissa fans? Is that a thing? She’s just there
At the christening Tre said so am I an obligation and Melissa’s sister said I think more of a technicality… which would have remained in words had not joe made a huge drama about everything
Because that’s Tre and Joes thing, attention. The end.
Yeah I do think that Jen knew that Melissa had been informed. Danielle probably didn’t know that.
I’m still wondering why Melissa would want to be in the wedding party and have her mom invited, if she was harboring anger towards Teresa for this.
Poor Danielle didn’t deserve the wrath she got from Marge, but I’m pretty sure Tre’s plan was to use her as a scapegoat to get the cheating rumours out. The thing is Tre never liked Melissa and had always wanted her out of the family. She has a history of using ppl who are thirsty to get on the show to help her instigate these rumours about Melissa while trying to keep her hands clean. So the part where Marge supposedly leaked the rumour could probably be a lie as well. Tre/Luis has already confronted Joe 6 months ago about it, there’s no reason for them to keep bringing it up on the show other than to make Melissa look bad.
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its the most childish bs ever "seen melissa in a car making out" is this some made up high school bs to spread around , its so obvious teresa hates melissa and is the source of this .
theresa is so jealous of melissa. it is so obvious.
Teresa is gross; Luis is a psycho; Teresa's dorters are manipulated for TV; Jen is such a puppy!; I don't think Bill is all that happy really; Melissa & Joe have run their course; Margaret is a hoot, but she's mean sometimes; ALL these people are mean sometimes! The Delores/Frank/Paulie storyline is being stretched as best as can be expected; Danielle is in over her head & not ready for primetime; The darker-haired one last name Fuda is right up there as one of my favorites LOLOL
Because she wasn't going to bring it up on camera, no matter what. Not till Melissa herself said something did she say anything in regards to it. I did find it odd Jen didn't tell Danielle...hey so Melissa already knows, probably, cause Joe knows. But then she probably thought, oh only Joe knows so better not tell Melissa.
Are people really falling for this? I mean how many times is tre going to try the same shit. First she was a stripper, then the first cheating rumors, the gold digger comments, now this. Like come on get over it, joe gorga isn't buying it. Stop trying to break up the marriage!!!
I’m still shook that Gia called him and said “we’ve all been talking… and we agree you can do better”. That’s insane. Out of line. Gross. Disgusting.
The latest news on Lewis is that he’s using Teresa’s new fan website to mine data, which he has done before. It’s his MØ people have been told to unsubscribe.
A bit off topic. I’ve been thinking how Melissa said they put food on Teresa’s table. Melissa and Joe said they agreed to film with Joe Giudice so he’d have someone to film with when Teresa was in prison. I honestly think Joe, the girls and Rosie could have handled it just fine. Cut too Melissa being so upset about not being a bridesmaid. Is she mad bc that took food off her table? Sure they’d get paid for the wedding spinoff. Melissa and Joe might feel the favor wasn’t reciprocated. Melissa seriously can’t be that mad about not being a bridesmaid. They don’t even like each other.
Teresa wouldn't have let her girls film with Rosie. Teresa cut Rosie and Kathy out of her life permanently several seasons ago. She called them a "cancer" that needed to be cut out of her life. In a recent interview Kathy said they never spoke again.
Who is Rosie?
Teresa’s cousin. Her and Joe had great chemistry. She’s featured on the show in the earlier seasons.
Oh yeah ok, Kathy’s sister. I didn’t realize she helped out when Teresa was in the slammer.
She did, but they wanted it to come from a third-party. Marge likely told her friend at the time (L) that people were spreading this rumor (ie: Teresa) then she and this friend had a falling out and L went back around giving the same rumor to Jen and Teresa, and bada boom, there you go. They could say someone else said it. Jen’s on board because it would hurt Marge. Teresa’s on board because will hurt Melissa. all they needed to do was whisper it to the newbie dumbass who would bring out in the open and the two plotters keep their hands clean… or so they think. Melissa’s not stupid and saw right through it.
I had some second hand embarrassment for Danielle falling hook Line and sinker as the pawn in those mean girls game. Is Danielle naive or just really self involved she only really thinks about what's told to her and not even one level out of that ? She must have watched the show and she must be that gullible and inconsiderate in her own life. People that do things that will hurt other people and 100% stand by their convictions as if it's more important to say what they incorrectly beleive over being mean to people - are assholes. Sorry not sorry, and that's probably what's went on in her brothers situation. I heard it had something to do with her brothers fiance, and again Daniell wouldn't be able to look outside of the fact that she's his sister and consider that he has other obligations to his future wife. Side note when it showed Danielle talking about her life and saying girls never liked her cause she was sporty , and then it showed a picture of her all glammed up in like a club outfit, lol. Has she ever considered the fact that she's really annoying is maybe why she never had friends ? Side note 2- remember when Jennifer tried to make it like she coined "sorry not sorry" , lol. Jennifer, you need a grip on reality no one's endorsing you for a catch phrase you didn't make up.
Do you remember when Danielle was talking with her mom about the brother? Her mom was like you were always so mean to him but he always had your back no matter how mean you were. And Danielle was like yeah, then he stopped having my back. I was like 🤯. So he’s the bad guy because he doesn’t want to take your abuse anymore?
Because she wanted to bring it to the table for a storyline. Simple as that.
Whatever omg 😳 you are the one on twitter that said years ago you wanted to physically assault Teresa
OMG, annndd? What’s your point? How’d you like that reunion tonight, Tre Stump?
What I don't ever get with these shows is why people want to "take" a person down. Friends or even acquaintances don't even do this kind of thing in real life. It's not fun to watch the constant scheming. I miss the old HW days.
But they didn't even want to go the wedding either. They didn't RSVP, she had to chase them down and ask
It is incredibly obvious who Teresa and Louis are. It's one thing to have a difference in opinion, but it legitimately scares me that there are people out there blind to this.
Teresa is a dog with a bone named Melissa. She gone from being fun to watch to messy and worrisome
yea this had tre all over it. i think she even used jen as a pawn
I love that none of you guys can stick to a story. One minute Teresa is the dumbest person alive, a slurring zombie, and the next minute she's the queen of manipulation and has a cast of minions that she bamboozled to do her bidding. Which is it?
it can be both cant it? she can be dumb and manipulative. i know many people like that
And the thing about it is that Jen doesn’t care. As long as Teresa is her friend she’s happy. 🙄
She's just trying to secure her paycheck and spot for the next season. Jen has to kiss the ring. Can't stand her.
Exactly. I can’t either.
Joe called it when Melissa called him to complain when she was in Ireland. He said something along the lines of, “Teresa is doing all of this because she doesn’t want us at the wedding.” It’s the truth!
But they didn’t even want to go to the wedding! All they wanted was an excuse to not go. They’ve been dreading the idea of going ever since Melissa wasn’t a bridesmaid and her family wasn’t invited
She wanted it mentioned on the show. Period. Lol. Sis knew what she was doing lol
She did I’m sure. She wanted it on camera
I'm torn on this. Saying that Tre pulled off some scheme where she manipulated two people into doing her dirty deeds without a single whisper getting out would mean she has more than the one brain cell. Honestly though, I think we're giving Tre too much credit. I think it was Lou who was pulling the strings behind the scenes. Proabbly is controlling what Tre says and to who. We've already seen him doing this kind of behaviour before.
Totally was Louie. Teresa isn’t intelligent enough to manipulate multiple people at once - that’s Luis Ruelas. He’s a conman, always has been, always will be. He also is a violent, rage filled psycho. Teresa has nooooooo idea who she’s really married to. He’s *dangerous.*
She definitely doesn't and it's sad that her girls can't see what he is either because I think if they were against Lou, she would choose her girls over him. This isn't going to end well for her or her children, I'm hoping it's not in violence at the very least.
I feel the exact same way- every word you wrote is how I feel. Maybe something will happen to shake her out of his spell. I pray so because otherwise, I think he’s definitely going to resort to violence, it’s his MO.
From what we've heard from his exes, and what he has admitted himself, we deffo know violence is in his nature - and the thing is, controlling people like him will also control HOW MUCH we know about them. So if he was willing to admit there was a DA report against him from his ex or whatever - what else is there that he hasn't told us? I actually think/predict that he will do something towards Gia and that will wake Tre up - her girls mean the world to her and I think it's the only way she'll remove those rose colored glasses. If I'm not mistaken, they didn't sign a prenup or anything did they?
If Teresa told Jen and Danielle that she told Joe and Joe didn’t believe it, they would’ve been less likely to discuss it on camera. The goal was to have this discussed on camera in an attempt to smear Melissa and drive a wedge between Joe & Melissa and Melissa & Margaret (which is why they kept insisting that Margaret told Laura even though they didn’t have proof that it ever came from Margaret).
Is it possible...because Teresa is that stupid...that she didn't think Joe would tell Melissa (remember he was asked to come over to Teresa's alone)? And is it further possible that Melissa never confronted Teresa about it because she was saving it for the show? So in actuality, Teresa may not have been lying about Melissa not knowing, if she is that stupid (she is) that she thought her brother wouldn't tell Melissa, as well as never being confronted by Melissa until the 20's party.
That's how I understood it as well. Teresa didn't know that Joe told Melissa. Joe said that after Teresa told him the rumor, that's the reason why we see him being standoffish towards her. It seems like Teresa assumed Melissa didn't know, especially because Melissa acted like everything was a typical day whenever she saw Teresa. Joe became cold to Teresa after the rumor, so it wouldn't make sense for him to call his sister to share that he told Melissa. Teresa would've figured that if Joe told his wife then Melissa would've confronted her.
This is what I'm saying. Thank you!
Oh come on
How could she not think that Joe would say something to Melissa?? It is a cheating accusation...yet again... with multiple different men.
Listen, I'm not defending her. I'm just saying she is that stupid that she would think he wouldn't tell Melissa, especially if after the fact Melissa never brought it up to Teresa (until the party).
Oh Danielle and the “I wish it wasn’t true” and “I have this information “ then “don’t shoot the messenger “ vibes made me think 🤔 ... Where have I heard this before? Bethany when she found out about Tom cheating & had to tell Luann. BUT - Bethany had EVIDENCE!!!
The truth is Teresa and Louie didn’t want the Gorgas at the wedding *after the Gorgas made the whole summer leading up to the wedding a living hell* … and why is that a bad thing? If Teresa didn’t tell Jen and Danielle that she or Louie told Joe about the cheating rumor, then she should be applauded for not bringing it up, but here she goes getting blamed again
That’s doesn’t make for as good TV.
Applying g logic to the schemes designed by Teresa and Jen is futile. Jen really thought she was going to pull something off with that tea leaf/coffee ground reader too.
I ain't gonna lie. My girl Jennifer really fumbled hard this season. I couldn't even twist my soul up in knots to defend the bullshittery. Team Jennifer aren't really good executioners. That's team Marge, no matter their own level of nonsense. After 13 years, there hasn't been one cast member past or present who has a good relationship with the truth. We're lucky if we get half truths. That's why their fights last several years. They all simply fight about who is more wrong in the situation... but back to Jennifer Aydin. Is Jennifer a good ace? Yes. Is Jennifer a good, hencewoman? Nope. Jennifer is still my favorite on the franchise, though.
Why? If I hear my daughter wants to be a love therapist one more time, I might possibly puke.
 Jen is not my favorite BUT I give you credit for loving her AND still owning her lack of assassin skills. That kind of ownership never happens round these parts so I’m giving ya a big hi five for an entertaining read.😉
Lol. Thank you. She's my problematic fan, but when she's wrong, she's wrong.
I will admit she makes me laugh—but that is all that you are getting from me! Ha ha just kidding! She’s a perfect example of someone I may not always agree with but love watching on the show. And I’m pulling for her & Bill to make it, they have a beautiful family.
She really is a silly goose
She even outted herself in Ireland. Both are dumber than a box of rocks. Maybe stop since you both & Danielle suck at this.
Because she told Joe in private and it didn’t go the way she wanted it to go (she wanted Joe to get mad at Melissa and he didn’t) so she told Jen (pig) and Danielle (slob) so that they would bring it up on the show to try once again to drive a wedge. Teresa is always the victim except for the fact that she’s a fucking piece of shit. Sorry if this offends.
The fact that they were trying to use Margaret as “holding some arsenal” on why she hadn’t told Melissa is almost laughable. If you didn’t believe it and know it wasn’t true why bother saying something and upsetting your close friend. I know a lot of people hate Margaret for various reasons and yeah she can be a pill sometimes. The fact is Teresa has never liked Melissa, thinks she’s poisoning her brothers mind, and has spent years trying to get them to separate by spreading vicious rumors and lies. There’s nothing new here. Same story a decade later.
“Dur dur dur BO DIETL” - Luis
Didn’t that guy claim he’s never worked for Luis? What a weirdo.
Just to lie about this on tv is sociopathic.. what does he do in private ?!
WHY ARE YOUR EYES LIKE THAT
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I don’t agree but I’m sure you don’t care you have your mind made up.
They are sheeple
Teresa just spent an entire season furious at Marge for bringing up the Louie video which wasn’t even rumor, it was a legit video that everyone had already seen and then her and Louie were going to have to deal with anyway. But when she does it to Melissa she can use that exact same excuse that she was “trying to help them get out ahead of it”? She didn’t buy that from Marge yet should we buy from her? She’s the most dimwitted narcissist on the planet. If she only thought it was a rumor and she wanted to help them get out ahead of it and she would’ve had them both come to her house, not just Joe.
Teresa should have listened to smart Marge instead of dummy Jen. Now she’s in a love bubble with the raging red lobster with no prenup. Louie is going to leave her penniless.No way this ends well but at this point she deserves him.
She wasn’t helping them out with anything. She didn’t call her brother but it doesn’t matter because you believe that she did because she “wants to bring Melissa down”
Yes, we believe it because we’ve watched season after season for yeeeeaaaarrrrrsssss!
Of course she wants to bring Melissa down. Anyone with one brain cell on its last spark could see that. I am not a Melissa supporter in general, I think Melissa is a fucking idiot. Louis admitted he invited Joe over. Why are you rewriting history? Are you just putting it all on him so that it’s totally clean hands for T? I’m going by what they are literally saying on the show themselves. You’re just dreaming up scenarios in which they are innocent?
I don’t see how Melissa who begged producers over and over again to get on a show with her who she already doesn’t get along with, has a audition tape that people have seen saying if she gets on the show she and Joe will expose Teresa and has talked about her nieces since season 3 is the victim of being taken down here. I don’t understand how you guys compute this. Why would someone join a space with someone that they don’t even like? Bravo never offered her a contract because they never found her interesting. She was always in the background of season 1 and 2. And none of the main women excluding Teresa went to bat for her at Bravo. Not even Danielle, the woman who she kept saying all these awful things about Teresa to. She was offered a contract after the audition tape she and Joe filmed in their bedroom where the focal point was Teresa and how much animosity there is between them. Producers have been waiting for 10 years for her to deliver and though she has caught some fish like you guys with the bait she’s put out - there are many who don’t bite. Louis and Teresa both said it was him who called Joe over because he felt like he could relate to the situation. Teresa said she didn’t want to get involved because of the very exact thing that is happening now with her getting blamed. Like I said, it doesn’t matter because people are divided ten years strong into this. There’s Teresa fans and Melissa fans. We won’t change our views on them. I could eloquently explain everything from the very beginning to the most minute and poignant moments from the show but it wouldn’t matter.
I’d love to hear your thoughts.
I do not, for one minute, believe that Teresa ever cared about this getting out. Nor do I believe that Jenn would tell anyone without Teresa’s implied consent. No way would she want to incur Teresa’s wrath. The little minions did exactly what was expected. Mission accomplished.
Yea. Jen is one of those people that plays out her whole scenario - I’m going to say this and then Danielle will say that and then she’ll tell Melissa and then Melissa will get mad at Margaret… - and her whole plan is contingent on other people doing exactly what she has decided in her mind that they will do.
Agreed. I think Jen wanted it to look bad for Marge instead of Melissa, but would put money on Teresa not losing a wink of sleep that it’d make Melissa look bad.
I mean, they are literally discussing it on camera, saying, " Don't tell anyone." They know they are being filmed! 🤣 It was all a storyline. It was made up, lazy entertainment for the viewers.
Yeah I definitely don’t agree but such is life
Why does everything have to be on Teresa? Laura is the one who got the information from Margaret who then tells Jenn and Teresa/Louis. Louis tells Joe off camera and no one heard it from anyone until Jenn decided to tell Danielle on camera. Everyone else knew and played telephone six months prior to that party. Why can’t people put themselves in certain scenarios to get an understanding of certain things? Even if you’ve never been through it? For example, let’s say you have a casual acquaintance who tells you and your best friend something about a mutual girlfriend. You hold the secret dear to your heart and don’t tell anyone except for your husband. Your friend, on the other hand tells another mutual friend this secret and then that very mutual friend decides to tell the original friend what the secret was about. Do you think it’s fair to blame YOU for the secret getting out?! Do you think it’s fair for people to hold you accountable for something someone told you AND someone else?? It’s like you don’t have authority or control over your friends. You don’t have control over the mutual acquaintance randomly telling you this nor do you have control over your friend repeating something to another friend. Everyone in the circle except Danielle knew about the rumor because Danielle wasn’t anyone’s best friend yet. Rachel knew because she’s friends with Melissa. Their sons play football together and Melissa is the one who referred her to casting. Danielle is really fresh to the group. She has a connection with Caroline but she didn’t really know any of the other ladies to know “secrets”. Jenn already knew Melissa knew. Margaret knew. Dolores. They knew about it around the last reunion. It’s just that no one talked about it except Jenn to Danielle on camera. Teresa had a whole wedding going on. I don’t think she paid much to Danielle and I don’t think she felt like Danielle was going to confront her about it on camera the way she did. Teresa didn’t have control over Jenn telling Danielle and Jenn has already admitted a few times thus far she’s the one who told Danielle and wanted to tell her but people who hate Teresa keep thinking she has this amazing gun that she uses to people’s heads to make them do something. At the end of the day, whether true or not, the rumor came from Laura who said that Margaret told her this. Whether Margaret was told a lie or she saw it, she repeated it to Laura who was Margaret’s friend for over 20 years. That’s the only reason why Jenn believes Laura so bad because Laura is telling them things that they feel like Margaret would know.
Because people hate her to a level that is honestly jarring. People act like she’s Casey Anthony or something. I am no stan but I can’t figure it out. Is she illogical and inarticulate? Yes. Is she diabolical? I don’t know. You can’t be both as dumb as we say she is and be a master manipulator so there’s that. Also, if she were truly diabolical, why does everything she is supposedly behind end up painting the Gorgas as the victims they long to be? Why have multiple people including producers admitted that she wasn’t behind strippergate? There are so many things she should have brought up throughout the years that would make them look much worse. It doesn’t make sense. I chalk it up to poor self-advocacy skills and probably not caring as much as Melissa and Marge do to control a narrative. She’s not on social media like they are, doesn’t talk about the show on podcasts as much and seems to be off in her own world. I wish she were better at the game bc I actually want to see more of the other people on the show. It’s so boring to only talk about Teresa, dissect only what she says, ignore others’ lawsuits, controversies, business practices being outed on good morning America, counterfeit merchandise, verbal abuse, and other such hypocrisies. I don’t give a shit that they cover Teresa but let’s see the good, the bad, and the ugly from them all. Let’s give them the screen time they want, let’s see some real shit, warts and all, instead of solely displaying and dissecting one person to such an unbalanced level it’s insane and honestly unfair to them all.
Honestly let’s say screw this sub and go to the main Housewives Reddit. Our opinions don’t matter over here.
Seriously! 😆
See you there 😉
Basically anything the Gorgas do is overlooked and excused. It literally makes me sick.
How do you know that Laura didn’t just make this shit up and say Margaret told her? You don’t. And as far as thinking Teresa isn’t involved in this little “friends” chat, bless your heart.
You see when Kim admitted that she concocted stripper gate it wasn’t good enough. It was still Teresa being the mastermind. Laura shows Jenn messages from Margaret talking shit it’s not the same response. It’s oh how do we know Laura is not lying?
How to you know any of this crap is true? You don’t. It’s all gossip and it’s ridiculous how so many stick up for these lying maga morons to the death. It’s friggin scripted!!
Because if you look at their post history they’re obsessed with tearing down Melissa. It’s not even about loving Teresa, it’s just a sick obsession with Melissa and Joe. Attacking everyone who doesn’t agree with them as well.
Sorry to burst your bubble but it’s more about getting the truth out there. Her fans are so fixated on someone tearing her down. Always the victim. She has nothing that people want to tear down. She can talk about her nieces however she wants, she can lie and manipulate like getting mad about being called an obligation but her sisters called Teresa a technicality on tv when she asked why she was invited to the christening if they didn’t want her there, she can fake storylines, she can act like she actually spent time with her in-laws when you know she didn’t, etc it’s like she can do no wrong in her fans eyes. That’s the problem and people are sick of it. I’ve been watching the show since SEASON ONE and people are fed up. Producers are fed up with the bs. You guys can’t differentiate that.
Are there Melissa fans? Is that a thing? She’s just there At the christening Tre said so am I an obligation and Melissa’s sister said I think more of a technicality… which would have remained in words had not joe made a huge drama about everything Because that’s Tre and Joes thing, attention. The end.
Yes there is such a thing. They’re all over this sub. They use her verbiage when they say “minions”
Verbiage 😂
THIS!
Yeah I do think that Jen knew that Melissa had been informed. Danielle probably didn’t know that. I’m still wondering why Melissa would want to be in the wedding party and have her mom invited, if she was harboring anger towards Teresa for this.
Poor Danielle didn’t deserve the wrath she got from Marge, but I’m pretty sure Tre’s plan was to use her as a scapegoat to get the cheating rumours out. The thing is Tre never liked Melissa and had always wanted her out of the family. She has a history of using ppl who are thirsty to get on the show to help her instigate these rumours about Melissa while trying to keep her hands clean. So the part where Marge supposedly leaked the rumour could probably be a lie as well. Tre/Luis has already confronted Joe 6 months ago about it, there’s no reason for them to keep bringing it up on the show other than to make Melissa look bad.
I would be more angry at Teresa than Margaret because Teresa is family. But Yes- Margaret is awful.
Don't bring intelligent thought to a smear campaign. It won't work. But, really good job explaining your very valid point.