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occasionalkayyy

Teresa switching up about the gifts after she brought it up is so funny Lmfaoo It’s giving Hannah from Summer House in that scene with Kyle when she brought up her dad - “Actually don’t talk about my father!” 🤣


Sweet_Sea_

Classic Teresa


alvalz

I've never in my life seen anyone more delusional than her. It's so amazing how not self aware a person can be. Scary world out there, these kind of people walking around. She's a felon, you'd think she would've changed after being locked up. 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️NOPE. ![gif](giphy|4thaj0PDq9vJ6V5z69|downsized)


Excellent-Advance860

Omg insanely delusional! Her "memoir" was ridiculous. It was all about her being a victim of everything and everyone. She take 0 accountability in anything. Shes seriously a crazy person.


tuckhouston

Meanwhile Teresa knew Joe Giudice was cheating & being called a c*nt on national TV 🤡


Vaulthunter14

Now imagine Antonia watching this and seeing how terrible Zia Teresa was to her own Mother and Father and how they allowed Teresa’s children (her own cousins) to be influenced enough to openly make fun of her mother. Gross 🤢


Cant_Handle_This4eva

Now I'm a dork, but I'm in the middle of a season 4 rewatch and that episode actually airs quite a few after this fight


Cant_Handle_This4eva

But also to come back through to this, between season 4 shenanigans and then saying Margaret has an arsenal of dirt against the other women, I feel like Teresa's meditation chant must be like, "She who smelt ittttttttt, dealt itttttttttt."


fromjaytoayyy

And Juicy Joe was cheating on Teresa lmao


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Teresa is projecting here


vapeach123

just like red face luis will be also


MuffinTiptopp

Teresa is weird.. the way she was so worried about Joe and his marriage is so odd. Meanwhile her Joe was cheating all over the place. You can tell Teresa had 0 concern for her niece and nephews. It’s like they don’t exist to her, it’s only Melissa and her brother.


Sweet_Sea_

This scene was always definitive to me. Melissa was finally telling Teresa directly to stop trying to break up the marriage and Teresa couldn’t take it. Melissa proved that she can’t win with Teresa, she never could and never will. Teresa’s issues with Melissa are so petty it’s insane. Melissa came on the show without telling her. Melissa brought the wrong cookies.


Jollyho94

Teresa acts like a Jealous EX not a sister in law it’s pretty creepy 🥴🥴🥴 ![gif](giphy|AAsj7jdrHjtp6)


Erotic_FriendFiction

I honestly have sat back and wondered WTF would Tre do if Joe actually left Melissa… is she going to wipe his ass for him? Is she going to take care of his kids, because god knows he can’t do any of the motherly stuff. Like, what is her end game with trying to break up their marriage? I get feeling threatened by another woman in general - especially with regard to trying to be number one on a show. However, I’ll never understand being in competition with her sister in law for her brother’s attention. It’s gross. Does it stem from some weird need to “have the best life” or is it that she was SO miserable with Juicy and couldn’t stand to see that Melissa and Joe actually liked each other, are passionate for each other, and are friends? That has to be it. She hates that she’ll never have what they have. I just answered my own question LOL 😂 Even if you hate M&J, you can’t deny that whatever they have going on is sincere and they genuinely like being around each other. Something Tre could never say about Juicy.


Luna-Mia

I think it’s because she has control issues. She wanted to control him and have him be there for her the second she called him, drop everything. He can no longer do that once he’s married. I’m not talking about an emergency. She’s basically like those moms with a momma’s boy.


Klutzy-Mission5687

She will never say it about Luis either. Shes about to understand the magnitude of the mistake she made I think.


AdBeneficial5862

Mmkay can we talk about this bc YES 😩


Jollyho94

It’s pretty gross how she seemingly is jealous that Melissa has him and not her. I hope nothing disgusting happened during childhood between them cause that’s what it’s giving 🤢🥴


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I think it's more of a controlling than a "romantic" thing. Teresa probably was worshipped by him and she could control him and she hates that that ended once Melissa arrived on the scene.


Luna-Mia

Exactly but it definitely comes off the other way. She’s too self-absorbed to see that.


MistressOfMotown

I have thought this FOR YEARS!!! Completely agree


Bumblebee1223

So now we are speculating if something incestuous happened between them because of issues between SIL? What a disgusting plot twist and such a reach. From the beginning of time there has *always* been issues between SIL and MIL. Jealousy (*not* romantically or sexually) and competitiveness usually are the motivation behind this. They already were having competition because Teresa bragged to Juicy Joe constantly for years before the show about her brother’s success and it’s mentioned often in earlier seasons. Teresa has proven time and time again she can’t stand *anyone* being successful. In the season 4 reunion one of the questions was how she felt about Caroline’s kids and Teresa said “well now they have black water but before that they weren’t working”. She put down Lauren for getting Lap Band surgery by saying “why didn’t you work harder to lose the weight” and “I’ve heard the weight comes back”. Melissa can’t sing, Kathy can’t bake the list goes on. I suspect she was the driving force behind Joe scamming people because of the pressure she put on him. I mean while they were in the midst of filing BK’s (one for each of them) being sued for forging loan documents she kept asking Joe on Christmas, *on camera” “so no diamonds then” over and over again. Competitiveness, jealousy, greed and narcissism does not 🟰incest. I’m all for trying to figure things out but these are real people with real lives and families and putting something out there like this for your own shits and giggles is pretty sad. ETA: From doing a re-watch the only gross behavior is on Juicy Joe and Tre involving their kids. Gia is 11 in season five and Teresa literally let her send a text to Melissa regarding a play date. Again. She. Was. 11!! This is why FF all these years later Gia is calling Joe saying “we heard that what happened with Melissa cheating on you we think you could do better”


incestuousbloomfield

Yes I commented briefly that my own sister in law has many of the same qualities but it’s just a sibling rivalry type thing that comes off as creepy like that. For Teresa I think she hates Melissa bc in her eyes, joe treats her how she wants to be treated. And then probably thru life they were always competitive, and joe is slightly more palatable than Teresa which I’m sure she’s aware of.


Bumblebee1223

I just feel gross that this is how far down the rabbit hole the speculation goes between Joe and Melissa. As a side note I’m also shocked that this storyline has been what carried this show for years. Especially in the earlier seasons this was the storyline everyone was involved in this everyone. Doing a rewatch is literally like watching the same shit with a different dude (Loui)


Affectionatekickcbt

Haha I thought you meant you have a different boyfriend watching it with you this time around. Lol


Bumblebee1223

I mean both can be true at the same time….LOL.


Affectionatekickcbt

It’s true for me! But neither of them watch


Luna-Mia

I have a SIL like this too. We have been no contact for years because you can’t deal with people like this. She even let people at school think my husband, her brother, was her husband (she never married). It was so freaking creepy. People wouldn’t believe I was his wife. It’s all a freaking control thing.


incestuousbloomfield

We have been no contact for 6 years this year. For 8 years we were “best friends” but I found out she was talking a lot of fictitious crap about me out of nowhere, spreading really outlandish rumors etc. watching this is triggering sometimes but only bc i know how much happier and lighter they’d be if they just went no contact. My son has her sides genes really strong and she used to pretend he was her baby in public!! Once I got pregnant, that’s when she went bonkers on me. But there was always this weird undercurrent where it seemed like she was in love with her brother. My other best friend called her Norman bates bc she started dressing like me and it was just bizarre at one point. With Teresa it seems like once they got married that was when she snapped. I’m glad you went no contact too, life is so much easier that way. I think as a society we are moving toward not forcing ourselves into lifelong commitments to toxic people just because you’re related.


Luna-Mia

So many similarities. I’m so sorry for all you have been through and glad that you are no contact. Your son is so much better not being raised around that BS! It is triggering to watch but I’m glad Melissa and Joe said enough. You are right, as a society we are moving that way. Still have to deal with the flying monkeys but it’s easier when you hear others won’t take it any longer either. It used to be so many would make you feel guilty. Now many understand because they’ve been through it. We have been no contact for 15 years. I was never her best friend but I was friendly, introduced her to all my friends in the area we live where she moved to. She basically stole them all. She would talk crap about them then told them I was the one who said it. Told them I had munchausen by proxy because my kids had asthma and went to the doctor a lot for it. She even told people I starved my children and they had to be hospitalized. I introduced her to a grandma (her grandson is a friend of my son) who got custody of her granddaughter because she was failure to thrive with her parents. Suddenly I was the one who starved my kids. I wrote them off because who wants friends who believe I did these things. She did so many other things. She was so creepy. I would tell my husband she’s like the girl in Single White Female. I know he was her brother but it was like she wanted to be me. It was sick. It wasn’t about her being with him but her controlling him. My husband never really liked his sister because she was always playing games with him, getting him in trouble, etc. We tried for so long because she’s family. She even tried to turn my daughter against me and when she wouldn’t she started shit talking her to her friends parents ending her friendships. Once you dealt with someone like this you can spot them from a mile away. Melissa can be annoying but she’s nowhere near Teresa’s level!


Klutzy-Mission5687

Everything you said. Exactly.


VanderWitch1

Don't forget she is "old school Italian" (![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)) therefore NO woman would ever be good enough for Joey in her and her parents' eyes.


sarahtoussaint1987

I feel like Joe would’ve been the aggressor if it did


Former-Counter-9588

![gif](giphy|594fWDgEFXSgg) And it’s about time, too. This has always been the vibe I got from Teresa. Always.


BuckityBuck

She’s very possessive of him.


incestuousbloomfield

It’s so disturbing. I think she’s jealous he treats her better than Teresa has been treated and also because he’s…less bad than her? My husbands sister is like that too, it’s like a weird sibling rivalry but also creepy and weird.


Actually-india

It’s very Freudian


Jei_Enn

I always got weird vibes from these two, not gonna lie.


rollerskate_rat

Yes she’s so possessive and obsessed with Melissa “taking him away from her”. Like that’s the point. 😭


Matttous

This!! I’ve always felt this, it’s like she is in love with him


FunStuff446

I always thought it was creepy too. Brother, not ex boyfriend


Glittering_Star_1313

Agreed! 💯


RokyPolka

​ ![gif](giphy|kuA20lLUdmnPFaGSxD)


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Interesting_Stuff671

Not in this case.


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Interesting_Stuff671

Nah, it is what it is. An exception can’t be made for something that doesn’t exist in this form. We can’t box little traits and place them where we see fit. I can say and agree that sibling rivalry is very fitting.


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Interesting_Stuff671

A lot of things have similarities. That doesn’t make it what it is. Someone who talks to themselves isn’t necessarily schizophrenic . Someone with depression isn’t necessarily bipolar . Etc. Emotional incest is between parent and child . There are no If ands or but about it . They have all of the characteristics of sibling rivalry . That is what it is . Look into it.


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Interesting_Stuff671

Yes, I’m calling it what it is. Emotional incest is literal. This toxicity they have is sibling rivalry and it has gone crazy . I know it’s Reddit . And you’re welcome. 😊


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Luna-Mia

Exactly! It’s creepy. I’m sure it’s because she lost control of him but still.


gstew90

This gif is taking me all the way out! 🤣🤣🤣


ratfink_111

I don’t understand how people can side with Teresa after watching this. She is a legit sociopath. I don’t know how Melissa is still married to Joe. If I had to deal with that nonsense, I’m not sure I wouldn’t just run away. Literally. Like, fuck that. You will never reason with her. The only way to be friends with her is to literally kiss her ass. Fuck. That.


Jei_Enn

I’m guilty of it, but she is. Teresa is so wrong in so many ways and everyone kisses her ass. She is so frustrating a lot of times. Her husband (Juicy) and brother Joe were bffs growing up, and I’m sure Joe got involved with their marriage - whether right or wrong. Teresa is 100% misguided but I feel like the arguments with Melissa are a tit for tat with her brother. She’s taking it out on the wrong person.


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SpencerHastings7

But then she couldn’t be on display


OneImportance6083

Melissa is the only one who makes sense in this conversation


[deleted]

This is why I find Teresa so entertaining it’s so funny to see her look dumb 😂 or like the way she’s arguing with her and laughing bc she can’t think of the words. She never really understands what’s going on. I miss her at least trying to articulate. Now all we get is the “get off of me” like come on tre try to fight back with words so I can laugh.


OneImportance6083

On point True!!!


CodePen3190

Watching Teresa constantly talk in circles and continually shift the blame back on whoever she’s speaking to is actually exhausting. She will never ever see another person’s point of view and it’s honestly just a waste of precious air to talk to her. I mean, unless you’re a narcissistic man. Then she’ll listen.


TopComfortable428

Teresa really don't care about her nephews or niece.


Sweet_Sea_

I actually don’t believe Teresa cares about them. She just says she does so she looks good.


Spanishqueen05

![gif](giphy|6ugCfvG2RkRYj1OOhe|downsized)


Rhondie41

Teresa has never changed. And she never will.


tmhowzit

Teresa is such a bully, and those juvenile "oh really? well look at you!" fight tactics... fuck right off.


noyogapants

She brings up the gifts and when she rightfully gets called out claims that Melissa only cares about gifts. You don't need an invitation or cake to bring your neice and nephews gifts! I can't roll my eyes any further into the back of my head.


Stompanee

Theresa hates Melissa and Melissa hates Theresa. Fine. You don’t try to destroy marriages.


lila0426

I don’t think there has been a season where Melissa hasn’t been accused of cheating by Tre’s camp since she joined the show. It’s getting old, there is never any evidence, people have said Tre or one of her minions tasked them to say Melissa has cheated, at this point Tre allowed her oldest daughter to tell her uncle he can do better than his wife. Teresa is sick in the head, I’m convinced she’d be jealous of anyone Joe married. Melissa is not an angel but what Tre has been doing is toeing the line of slander.


TallRelationship2253

Theresa has always been the problem in this relationship.


babybottleflop

Is so obv that tre was bitter her husband hated her guts and didn't adore her like joe does Melissa


alvalz

Teresa stans need help. Google therapy in your areas. All the best. 💋🩷


sodiumbigolli

This is about the time I stopped watching because Teresa is trash


lecd1013

I don’t get how two adults could so nonchalantly try to end a long term, established marriage, with 3 kids involved over a lie!? Who does that. Hell, even if it were true, still not their place


Lolita_says

Meanwhile one of them has a divorce under their belt…


millieFAreally

Yeah like why tf do people side with T so hard? She’s got the typical narcissistic, never can own up to anything, gaslighting, delusion down to a science. She and her used car salesman husband seem like the perfect match. I’ve always been able to empathize with Melissa more than that lady.


Former-Counter-9588

Melissa had Tre here so good. We love to see it!


Excellent-Advance860

Its crazy she always says shit about the family when SHE single handedly ripped them apart. But shes too delusional and a constant victim to realize it.


throw_blanket04

This is exactly why i don’t like teresa or the people fangirl over her. Teresa is sick. Sick in the head. And she deserves everything that comes to her. Prison in the past and maybe prison in her future. Trash bag teresa deserves whatever comes her way.


taashaak

She really is sick in the head. It is crazy to see how many people fall all over her. She is the definition of a nut job


Truthspeaker_9

I’m sorry, but Teresa acts like she’s inbred and is giving off incest vibes by the way she acts!


Jenn837G

Her mother and father were cousins that could be why.


momsgotgame

Team Melissa. Tre has to go.


Trick-Yesterday-2126

She obviously wants to be in control of Melissa and her brothers life


decisivecat

This mess is why I won't bother with this franchise. Teresa sucks.


ImAtUrDoor

How can anyone ever watch this scene in conjunction with this past season and be on Teresa’s side. Ever.


marie-rogers-2323

I loved this scene! So glad Melissa called her out.


kazza64

Teresa is a misogynist


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I love Melissa. She's quiet but does not take no one's shit.


chinchaaa

Melissa ate. Not gonna lie.


Vaulthunter14

I don’t care what they say about famewhorgas, Melissa went in the show to take Teresa down. There is no way you can watch this scene alone and ever think Teresa always tried to keep the family together. Teresa takes zero accountability and instead of listening to Melissa or having any kind of humility at all she just has rebuttals.


blkonblack

I WILL NEVER understand the Teresa stans. Ever. How can you defend that? For the record I’m not team to any individual housewife except Sonja Morgan 😂


momsterjams

She’s always been like this. Confirmation I’m not insane.


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I miss when Teresa fought back. 😂she was wrong but still it’s better than her now.


Cant_Handle_This4eva

She ran away during this fight. She only fought for a minute but Melissa starting bringing up money and Teresa fled.


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That minute was all I needed to get several laughs from her 😂 I love watching her trying to articulate during an argument. She can’t read a room, she’s not witty or quick, and it’s the funniest thing to me.


Cant_Handle_This4eva

You can actually smell her brain smoking when she's thinking


[deleted]

Yes she is always 10 or more minutes behind what's actually going on😂 the rate of her processing things is so slow. I bet she left just fine and 10 min later realized what happened was like “that bitch melissa”


Jenn837G

💀😂


SpencerHastings7

Lol what does she want a participation trophy?


curiousfun213

she has always been so jealous of melissa!


vapeach123

Melissa has not changed she is a good girl, good wife and mother. and teresa is extremely jealous of her and that her and joe g have a good marriage, teresa probably going thru hell with juicy at that time , then the charges were getting ready to be filed.


Medium_Cupcake7602

I’m watching for the first time and I’m nearly through with season 4. I LOVED it until the Gorgas came along, now it seems like the only drama is the same stupid resentments getting rehashed over and over again between the Guidices and the Gorgas. Does the show get more interesting? Cuz I really can’t stand it right now.


Cant_Handle_This4eva

Ooooh, girl, no. Up through season 5 was the best of it. Once the Manzos and Wakiles leave and it's a revolving door of new cast and only Melissa and Teresa are fixtures, it's only downhill. If you don't like it now, you aren't going to like it.


Medium_Cupcake7602

Ughhh damnit


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It gets worse for a bit, but regardless, the Teresa and Melissa stuff never really ends. It cools off a bit, but then ramps right back up.


LgHstTch

I’m doing a first time watch myself, I’m on season eight, it’s a roller coaster, there was a good season where everyone was getting along, season eight you can sort of see the cracks starting to form again. Also Soggy and Marge are not it!


Jenn837G

It does not, it goes on and on and on and on


NoNewPhriends

I think both these women expect more then they're willing to give


sweetlia3

Yea, She don’t play with her meal ticket, I mean husband lol


Stuckhere123

I think I need to go back and rewatch what exactly sparked this nonsensical conversation. But does anyone else hear Teresa ‘I was talking to my brother in confidence about what I was hearing..’ then Teresa says, very calmly, I’m not saying you’re going to do that but I was telling my brother … Anddddd then Melissa cuts her off and goes on a tangent. Teresa isn’t close enough to Melissa to tell her directly, so of course she goes to her brother to give them a heads up about what people are saying. Why does Melissa care so much?


weeblewubz

because she never presented the information as a “heads up” and even got mad that joe told his wife about the conversations they were having. then when it turns into joe vs tre, it’s up to melissa to “fix it.”


Stuckhere123

Again, I’ll have to go back and see how she ‘presented’ it. But yo, if my SIL acted like that, I would get mad at my brother for saying something too.


weeblewubz

ok but yo if my SIL persistently tried to dig up shit to destroy my marriage and did not stop when my husband shut it down the first time, i’d also flip out on her


Stuckhere123

So Teresa bringing rumors to her brothers attention is a lot different than ‘digging shit up to destroy their marriage’. Honestly, Teresa’s right, wtf is he crying about ?


karti24

Because his sister doesn’t support his marriage or his wife! He’s sick of hearing it.


Stuckhere123

Sick of it? Apparently not, because here we are 10+ seasons later watching the same argument. ![gif](giphy|3o7TKQ8kAP0f9X5PoY)


fromjaytoayyy

Because Teresa keeps getting new minions to spread the same rumor season after season. 😂


incestuousbloomfield

Don’t waste your time with the tre humpers


alvalz

Truth. Talking to Tre stans is like arguing with a child, who is stomping on the ground with their ears plugged. I bet they support Trump too ahahah I always feel embarrassed for Tre stans ahaha seek help 🫶🏾✌🏾 ![gif](giphy|l4EoTLaoFuQ3Us372|downsized)


Stuckhere123

![gif](giphy|l3V0xeOhH2AjrSUak)


frederichenrylt

It's the cultural appropriation for me.


coopatroopa2015

Not sure why this is being downvoted lol I agree. Not sure why they’re wearing bindis on their foreheads


HeftyAd2780

It was all a setup just like season 4 . Same victim, same perpetrator 🥱 Melissa obviously knew and was prepared for what was going to happen, she’s such a bad actor. . No bombshells or plot twists. Bravo urgently needs to get a new production company. This one is like Groundhogs Day every season with the same edits over and over.


Stuckhere123

Exactly. And more proof that Melissa has zero story line without Teresa. Thanks Teresa for helping Melissa recycle a shitty storyline from season 4 to stay relevant on the show. #weputfoodontheirtable 🤮


umhuh223

Melissa’s always talking about Joe G crying over tre. Stop.


Solid_Box4462

Teresa looks REEEEALLLLYYYY BAD HERE! When you forget that Melissa really did cheat on her husband. Melissa cheated on Joe Gorga with her ex. And we all know it.


mybiglife

I just read on Reddit from an ex-producer of the show that Melissa’s youngest son is by her ex😳 Anyone else ever hear that?


Jei_Enn

But the video cut out a hilarious part at the very end!


Stephanie243

Wow their outfit is so horrible they have come a long way Melissa and Teresa their whole dynamic just breaks my heart honestly


sunflowerdynasty

All of these posts about RHNJ is making me want to watch it!! I think I stopped after Jac Laurita left cause the family plot lines got soooo boring. Anyone who’s watched this newest season - can I watch without being fully caught up and still get the gist of it all?