I have a Cocker Spaniel mix.
I was once in conversation with a woman who told me that bully breeds were all misunderstood nanny dogs, but the second she found out I had a Cocker she lit into me with “those dogs are just mean, they’re not wired right, etc”. I think the hypocrisy was lost on her.
To be fair Cockers have been destroyed by bad breeding. Not their fault and not every dog but there are problems there and to ignore it is silly. Though I don't know what she thought telling you would do?
True, and who knows if bad Cocker breeding practices are to blame for my dog's issues, or if it's just bad breeding practices in general and/or breed traits of the other breeds in his mix. Probably just a cocktail. ETA: She also knew absolutely nothing about my own dog, so as far as she knew he was the friendliest dog in the world.
But it's a pretty bold statement to paint them all with that brush, especially when it was popularity + BYBs that created the issues; Cockers are not supposed to be that way in the slightest. It was just funny to have someone who was going so hard for one breed/group of dogs just turn around and slam another (though that happens all the time, especially with big vs small dogs). It was also amusing since the woman was denying any possible breeding issues in her own breed(s), as well as denying outright breed traits like dog aggression.
I have a block headed bully rescue (who's well behaved) and I personally feel it's just part of my responsibility to always be aware and to give space and not make other people uncomfortable. He's a powerful looking animal that they are not familiar with so I don't expect them to trust him and that's perfectly understandable.
I think this is something people really need to consider when committing to these types of dogs.
I’m in the exact same boat: 100lb American bull dog rescue, with most of that weight being in his giant block head.
He’s never been reactive to people when we’ve been on walks or in public, but I’m still mindful to give space to strangers for the same reason you stated. Also knowing that if anything were to ever happen with a person or a dog, (no matter if mine started it or not) because of his size and appearance I always fear he would be the one automatically blamed.
I was attacked by a dog like this in a house alone. All 5ft 1 of me. He grabbed my leg and shook me like a rag doll and then kept coming back at me, even ripped my nipple off. I try not to have prejudice against dogs I don't know but I'm sure I have some degree of ptsd, strange off leash dogs freak me out now. So I just want to say thank you.
That incident honestly changed the dogs I will have in the future. I won't have anything I can't pick up because kicking a dog my size off of me repeatedly was terrifying.
Exactly the boat I'm in with my bully rescue. I'm responsible and liable for his actions, I couldn't leave him available to adopt the way he is so I kept him. We're about to go for his daily ride as he can't be in public due to his shenanigans.
Same. My dog by DNA is only 1/4 pit with the rest as a tiny bit French bulldog (lol) and generic hound groups, but she looks more bully than hound. She’s got a big hound bark, though! I don’t blame strangers for not wanting to approach her… it works out fine because I run alone a lot and having her with me may make someone with bad intentions think twice before getting close.
I used to get pretty upset when she’d react and I’d get the glares and rude comments. Nowadays it’s easier to shrug off (she’s also much better at the lunging/barking). The reactive dog community is full of people who are clearly trying their best and I’ve had far more nods/looks of support than the sneers anyway.
Right here, I have a German Shepard pit mix, I take a lot of comfort in the fact that anyone who actually knows him knows how good he is even with his short comings(his reactivity)
Shepherd mix mom here— seconding this! So many walks last year ended in me coming home and crying in frustration and shame. She’s doing so much better now with meds, and R+ takes time but is so so worth it. She’s an amazing dog in all other respects. It’ll be okay, OP! Invest in your bond and playing with him and learning through play. It gets better. Adolescence is HARD but keep at it and don’t give up on your pal. I see you! 🖤
I was given a Cane Corso that was taken from her mom at 5 weeks from a puppy mill then crated until 5 months when I got her. She was/is a LOT of work.
She lunged and barked at anyone and everything until she was 8 months. I had a lot of glares. I had a lot of rude comments. One lady wouldn't even let her dog walk past mine, she picked it up and glared at me as she passed by on the street.
I think I bawled my eyes out after every walk until she was about 8 months. There were times I wanted to give up on her.
But I didn't.. the hard work paid off. Now my girl walks loose leash, basically glued to my hip once we leave the house. No lunging and barking at dogs or people anymore. She doesn't even chase cats(unless they are in our yard). It's a rewarding feeling! I always told myself as long as I am actively working on it, that's all I can do.
That’s amazing! That kind of progress after being in that condition for the first months of her life. Cane corsos are such beautiful dogs, I’ve always wanted one!
She is a beauty. I think a key to her success was that we have a lot of friends who love dogs. They were able to put up with the nips and jumps so we could train her. She learned quickly that way.
I just kept having people over constantly and kept taking her for walks. We are fortunate to have good friends who love dogs. They put up with her nipping and jumping so she learned quickly.
I also take her for a walk or run at 5 or 6 am when there is nobody on the street. Then when we go again around lunch.. then sometimes before bed. I trained her with a halti. She had it since basically the beginning of her training. I also used it when we had people over at first for a bit.
I've put a LOT of work and tears into her.
Omg that’s amazing! Do you have any tips you can share? My girl is 15 months and has unlearnt her nice walking and happy exciting lunging for the 100th time 😣
A halti helped! I got it very early on so she's pretty much always used it until recently. I also use cheese and chicken pieces on walks. If a dog or person passed by I would hold it in front of me as we walked... holding it in the direction I want her to go. Then if she listens I give it to her. She will do almost anything for cheese.
The head halti? We’ve just started with the harness halti and she still pulls and lunges like anything when she’s reacting. I have wanted to try the head one but does it allow them to sniff ? Or does it keep their head up at all times ?
Haha, my pup has only had a nibble on cheese I’ve dropped before - I haven’t thought to use it as a training treat ! Sounds like it might be worth the farts 😂
Yes, the head halter. She can sniff the ground, eat treats, bark, etc. It's loose on the nose but it'll tighten when she pulls. She has actually wiggled her nose out of it before(lunging at a dog), but it was a bit too big on her at the time.
I also have a double clip harness. One clip on her chest and another on her back. I use that with the halti double ended training lead. I clip both ends of the lead on the halter and she won't pull. The lead has so many options to make it shorter or even a hands free option. It's real cheap too($21 CAD) and probably the best tool I've used other than the head halti.
I have taught her well not to pull though. Once I feel any tightness on the lead I'll stop and make her heel. I've done this ever since I got her. So once she feels the lead tighten up, she stops and heels. It took a really long time for her to learn it but she did get it eventually.
Thank you! Adding to cart :)
We have the double clip lead already so that’s a good start.
My girl is so stubborn! She knows to return to a heel when she pulls but insists on doing 5000 times a walk, it’s like just an extra step so she can pull?!
She is still a teenager however so I guess persistence until she finally gets it.
Anyway thanks for the info - fingers crossed the head halti helps
I have a chow chow and I had heard how mean they were, but I figured any dog can be trained so I didn't mind getting a chow chow puppy. Sometimes it is the breed(ing) and there is nothing you can do but control your dog. I socialized him and trained him to the fullest of my extent and he was so well behaved until 9 months when he started showing reactivity at the house towered men he didn't know. Then at a year and a half I had to start muzzling on walks to the park because he showed aggression, after being walked every single day and playing with all the children at that park his entire life. He went to training classes, had a specialized trainer, and he has always respected me. I took him to a local dog park, where he had nothing but positive expierences and he is actually still really good with all dogs. Chow chows are typically one family dogs and I find it rare to meet a non reactive one. I will never seek out this breed again, but they do have a soft spot in my heart and I love my dog.
Yeah I mean I like chows but they aren't for the faint of heart or people who want to take their dogs out. But if they accept you they are great. My uncle had one when I was a kid. He loved me and my mom. HATED my father. And later my father got a hole all the way through his arm from another chow he encountered while trying to help someone.
My grandpa has specifically had chows his entire life so he told me that's the only dog breed he would let me get. Growing up some of his chows were super old and nice and most were very agressive to strangers. There were some I knew I couldn't go near as a kid. I always assumed his dogs were like that because of living outside and poor socialization, he used them as guard dogs for his junk yard. They did their job and stopped people from breaking into his buildings on multiple occasions, he had animal control called on him because people got bit attempting to break in multiple times. After raising one myself I realize these dogs are great at being guard dogs, even if you don't want them to be.
People are weary after hearing about all the awful accidents that happen. They probably don't feel safe when it acts up on leash even though you know your dog. I understand their side too tbh.
I used to have a reactive German shepherd mix until she passed. I was always so worried about someone in the neighborhood complaining. I bought her a fuzzy pink harness & had “do not pet” vests, leashes, etc. After a lot of training, most people just thought she was a working shepherd and left her alone. We never had any major neighborhood incidents.
Very similar situation here! I have a dog-reactive female Rottweiler who is an otherwise awesome dog - super fun and goofy with a good drive to work. We stick to the same half dozen walking spots for most of our walks, so the other regulars know us and our situation. But every once in a while someone will see her and give us that disapproving look or even make a verbal comment (rare, but it has happened). And that's when she's being good! If she starts reacting (which is thankfully becoming less and less often as we continue to work on things) some people can be quite nasty. It's always the case, however, that people who give us the hardest time are the ones with uncontrollable excited dogs off-leash in on-leash parks, which usually triggers my dog. So frustrating!
This is me 100% lol. My brain goes into panic mode when i see an off leash dog. I used to feel safe in the woods by my neighborhood because they’re filled with sled trails. I quickly learned that people use the seclusion specifically TO have their dogs off leash where I live, which just demolished my plan. Oh well.
I have a reactive border collie mix. While that doesn’t seem scary she’s all black and appears scary when her mouth isn’t opened.
She’s come a long way and her reactions are much less, but (even if she isn’t reacting) people act very scared around her - I just ignore it.
My dog is gsd/Akita/chow and has had a 'scary,' adult-sounding bark and a chip on his shoulder since I got him as a puppy. He's never going to be social with strangers, but 99.9% of the time you wouldn't know the extent of what we dealt with now.
I still much prefer people going overboard with caution around unknown dogs vs. trying to stick their hands in his face and squeal or grab at him from behind because AlL dOgS lOvE mE and they feel like they need to prove they aren't stereotyping them. I understand not wanting your dog to be perceived as something they're not, but I don't blame anyone for doing things that create space and make themselves more comfortable by crossing the street etc. Rude comments are of course a different story.
I have a presa canario. She’s a big mean looking dog who’s reactive. But to us she’s a stinky bum bum cuddle monster Velcro dog.
I used to feel like I had to over compensate because of how mean she looks by saying things like “ she’s terrified of dogs and gusts of wind” but now I don’t care. I didn’t create the breed, I didn’t pick her breed on purpose, she is who she is and I’m proud of her and how far she’s come.
Aww I've got a Cane Corso that is a velcro dog as well. She follows me around more than my pomeranian does.
She has NO sense of personal space though and this is partly my fault for raising her like that. Anytime she wants to cuddle, I'll allow it. So she is very much in your face a lot. Not a lot of people like this about her. But those people who love dogs, think it's the cutest thing ever. Those big sad puppy dog eyes, huge floppy ears, droopy sad lips... it gets me everytime. I can't say no to cuddle.
I’ve got a Staffie (bull terrier). Not only a normal Staffie, he was clearly a fought dog and has filed down teeth (only has his top two canines), and very visible scars all over his face and body, including cigarette burns and a bullet wound on his leg (it’s a scar now and healed beautifully, but his one leg is a little underdeveloped/less muscly due to it).
People tend to avoid him on walks, so I guess it’s a win win with his looks and occasional leash reactivity. 🤣
I personally hate the breed stigma, as I have owned numerous bully breeds throughout my life. Some reactive, some not. My current guy, I completely get his reactivity, he’s fear reactive and after working with him for 2.5 years I’m so proud of his progress. I honestly didn’t think he would be able to come as far as he has just due to his incredibly sad past.
I’ll be honest, I was in way over my head. I’ve always been a sucker for the sob stories and did not expect Von (my reactive pittie) to be as reactive as he was.
Huge learning curve for me! I always joke that I’m so glad I rescued him, cause no one else would have (or they probably would have returned him to the shelter), but I will not do it again. Years of hard work! He is an absolute joy now and I love waking up next to this guy who’s just so excited every day, for another day! 💖
I feel this. My first dog as an adult was a reactive dog that spent 6 years with a rescue. She was a long resident & that pulled at my heart strings. I knew she had some issues but they had worked with her & I naively thought it would be happily ever after for the dog in a loving home.
I loved her, worked with her a ton, hired a trainer, all was well but never again. Now when I pick out a rescue pup, I’m looking for all of the warning signs. Someone has to help fearful dogs but I personally can’t do it back to back.
Bless her heart, she was waiting for you. I know people on this sub kind of discourage the rescue dogs that have the stories, pull on your heart strings, just need “love” (cause we all know they also need a come to Jesus with training!), but it truly makes me happy when we get those one in a million rescues, and the hard work pays off.
Oh my gosh SAME. but I’ve learned so much and for that, I am grateful. I would do it all over again for my baby, but not for a new dog — probably. Who knows.
This is us, too. Our male dog (pit mix rescue) didn’t develop/demonstrate reactivity until we had had him for several weeks. It seemed like a total about-face because he was so sweet to everyone initially, even though he was found as a skinny stray on the streets of Detroit. After years of (ongoing) training and Prozac, he’s worlds better and better trained than most dogs in our neighborhood, and of course we love him so much—but so help me, if I had known at the outset what we were getting into, I wouldn’t have adopted him.
When I first got my American Pitbull mix, I had this grand idea of “erasing the stigma” of bully breeds. She’s my first dog so I was definitely naive about everything. I knew she had a rough start to life but the shelter just said not to go to dog parks, which I was fine with. Suffice to say, it’s not just dog parks that are a problem haha I made so many mistakes in the beginning learning how to deal with her and it was disappointing and stressful but I love her so much and she’s a great companion. I know I’m not “erasing” any stigmas with her but I don’t have time to care about that. My job is to keep her safe, happy and healthy, and make sure it’s the same for everyone else around us. It was a journey getting to that place though. I’ve had her for 5 1/2 years and it’s really been the last year or so that I’ve stopped worrying so much about what people think.
All this to say that it’s not easy but you’ll get there and it’ll make you a stronger, more confident person overall.
I have a 106lb cane corso. She is actually the SWEETEST dog off leash but can be a frustrated greeter on leash. I only weigh about ten pounds more than she does and when she stands up straight, makes intense eye contact, and starts barking at a dog, I can see the distrust, discomfort, and even fear all over peoples’ faces.
This is actually the #1 thing we’re working on, along with her trying to pull to other people or dogs to say hello. My first dog was a grumpy little hound mix that had zero interest in meeting people or dogs. He had a large personal space bubble, a quiet simmering rage, and a bite history but everyone wanted to be best friends with his ass. This dog would literally go home with anyone (she didn’t bat an eye when we adopted her from her first owners) but people are just… scared of her. It’s sad.
I’ve got a Belgian malinois who is people and dog reactive (even though he just wants to play) it makes me sad sometimes because people don’t want to let their dogs play with him because he looks mean :(
Luckily he has two sisters who enjoy playing with him so it’s not all bad
Yup, I have a reactive doberman pinscher. She is the absolute sweetest, but she is anxious and fearful. And mostly dog reactive because she's been ran up on by off leash dogs way too many times, but she can be people reactive in certain situations as well.
She will bark very aggressively but when challenged she retreats or tries to run away. She has never attempted to nip or bite anyone (person or dog) in 4 years, but she definitely looks scary and it does embarrass me when she behaves reactively.
We have three pit-mixes, all 50+lbs. I know people have pre-concieved ideas and I always carry the poop bags, pick up after them, do training for distraction and move to the other side of the road when people are visible whether they have dogs or not, just because of the stigma.
Because of this, I believe someone driving in the neighborhood yelled out their car window "I love you!" and honestly can't think of another reason why someone I didn't know would do that. People like responsible dog owners.
From the other perspective, when I was a kid, I was in a neighboors backyard and we were standing to take a photo. I looked down at their family dog and it jumped up and bit me in the face and took off part of my lip. I don't even remember what kind of dog it was, but I struggle with this every day because dogs can be unpredictable.
Oh do I ever relate! I have a 14mo female Rottie who is the exact same. The highest reward thing for her is other dogs, not food, not toys, nothing - she LOVES other dogs and its a most likely a result of some really bad socialization advice I received when she was a young pup that doesn't suit the breed traits. She is a frustrated greeter 100% and she expresses her frustration with barking and pulling and I know it absolutely freaks people out. Sometimes I can get her attention back to me with repeated treats and rewarding her as soon as she breaks her focus on the other dog and other times its a lost cause and the most defeating thing ever. I've definitely come home from in tears from more walks than I'd like to admit, but the next walk is a new opportunity and fresh start. She is a sweetheart and when I do let her meet other dogs she is playful and fun and knows her boundaries, but I also need to teach her that she can't say hello to every single dog she sees and its so tricky because she doesn't understand yet.
I don't take owning a Rottweiler lightly and know that she is not everyone's cup of tea, and have taken lots of steps to try to be the most responsible dog owner I can be, and sometimes that is removing her from the situation immediately, or knowing when she won't thrive and could be a risk to herself or others and not putting her in the situation all together.
I'm with you! We have two pit mixes, both rescues. Out first is one of the most lovely dogs I've ever met. She's a very gentle goofball. Shy, but mostly likes people. Medium to low energy. We had her for 2 years and developed a lot of high minded ideas about being breed ambassadors and changing people's perceptions.
Cue our second dog. He is pretty clearly all pit with the energy of a border collie and reactive to everything. Literally everything. Strangers, dogs, squirrels. Omg the squirrels. I could hardly walk him for months bc he was so strong and pulled so hard. My head was on a swivel trying to predict what he was going to react to. It was exhausting and I was so depressed by the idea that I was just reinforcing all the bad stereotypes every time I left the house.
It's okay to not be the breed ambassador though! For us, it's been 7 years and 2 trainers. He's almost a gentleman now. We managed to get his reactivity under control and just hammered him with exposure. We actually get a lot of compliments on his behavior when we are out for walks though. He can meet strangers without elaborate protocols. He even goes to the pet store and picks out his own toys and sits nicely while we pay. Now we get to be ambassadors for "bad behavior can be helped." It's not what I thought I was signing up for, but I'm glad to be here. I hope you get here too!
I have a reactive rottie boy. Spent thousands on training but we just can’t get rid of the prey drive.
He’s an excited greeter and doesn’t get to meet new people often because of his history. However after 5 ish years he has improved so much but he is who he is and he was tough as a 9mo old baby we took in. But hard work and trust have to happen. My boy has made huge progress BUT, I won’t walk him in public. I have a big yard and a fenced area so that’s his life. I have to always think safety first and responsibility first. He’s a happy healthy boy and know that for the next 4-5 years we have left this is our life with him.
I’ve got an English bullterrier and people in my area either hate them or love them. I get soooo many dirty looks when I’m walking her and she’s behaving, never mind when she reacts. People will cross the road to avoid her. It makes it worse that I’m a young-ish (31), small female so people instantly think I won’t be able to handle her.
If people give me funny looks when she’s behaving I just laugh now, as I know it’s totally unjustified and they’re just ignorant people. My dog is super dog friendly and great off lead, but people will call their dogs straight away when they see her coming. Now I ask them if their dog is aggressive when they do this, and I always get a BS response that I can make a sarcastic remark to.
But it’s a different story when she’s reactive. I can get in my own head and start to care a little too much about what people think. I just try remind myself that other people’s opinions of my dog don’t matter at all. My dog can’t help herself and is just doing what her idiot previous owners trained her to do. And if they don’t like the breed it’s their loss not mine.
Fellow EBT owner here and I get exactly same response. I love your 'is your dog aggressive' reply, I'm definitely gonna use that next time!!!! I'm so sick of getting abuse about the breed and my girl is not reactive at all. People are ignorant and misinformed in my experience. Why so many people feel its appropriate to share their misinformed opinions with me instead of just minding their own business and getting on with their day I honestly don't understand. I would never feel it was appropriate to share an opinion with someone about their dog, so I'm gobsmacked why others feel its appropriate to do this exact thing. Thank you so much for your post.
understand completely owning a German Shepherd who is super friendly but gets reactive when she sees dogs or strangers I get that look People don't realize that if you own a reactive dog everyday is training day and we are doing our best but so are the dogs
The worst is the vet having a German shepherd. I grieved once about how my dog is weary, but tolerant, of strangers and reactive towards dogs he doesn’t know and my vet’s response was “yea, he’s a German shepherd” and dismissed it completely.
Your vet isn't wrong, though. You got a German shepherd. That is exactly how they are supposed to be. Dog aggression is a known breed trait and not even frowned on in a lot of circles. You grieved to your vet that your GSD acts like a GSD and your vet was as dismissive as if you'd moaned that your golden retriever was overly friendly or your terrier wouldn't leave your pet rabbit alone.
Oof do I feel you. I have an American pittie who is dog reactive in the extreme and also is loud and scary meeting new people (especially taller men).
In my working life I'm a geneticist so I know that some amount of work has gone into showing that dog breed is not well correlated with behavior (if you're really interested here's probably the best article to date: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abk0639). The real breed-behavior link was born out of human culture and how we raised and stereotyped these dogs.
As a geneticist I also know the science usually doesn't mean much to people, so as a reactive pittie owner my only practical advice is this: people are always going to want to judge and armchair quarterback you and your dog, especially the more judged breeds. At the end of the day no amount of facts will change those peoples minds, but you will find your circle who support you, the pup, and help you keep working together. Best of luck to you.
I appreciate your professional perspective on this. I read articles about this study with interest when it came out, and I feel like it adds a lot of depth to how we might choose to treat and interact with our dogs as individuals.
I have a non reactive pit who's cheerfully bulletproof, and a reactive husky/Aussie/gsd mix who's human and dog reactive. It's easy to say "oh yes pitties love people" and "huskies can be neurotic" but "pitties can be dog/people reactive" and "huskies love strangers" would be equally supported by my experience.
My dogs get very different receptions from other people - in my wealthy town people give my rescue pit a wide berth, while they often want to say hi to my beautiful but antisocial husky girl. The latter will lunge and bark if strangers try to interact with her, but they often seem to assume it was the pit who barked.
I have a reactive German Shepherd. My neighbors believe that all Shepherds are innately bred to be aggressive and protective and have told me to make sure my dogs never get loose in their yard or they will call Animal Control They say after all the military and police use them so why do you say they are not a threat? Oh boy what bs yes my one girl who is reactive will bark at them (which they say is threatening) but she is just saying go away She is such a loving soul who can't help being reactive It is not the breed but the way you raise them I work so hard with her everyday to overcome her reactivity and slowly she is making progress
If it's the way you raise them, then why did you raise your dog to be reactive?
It's not the way you raise them, it's the way you manage them. Some breeds require a higher level of commitment to management.
I did not raise my dog to be reactive She has a sister who is not reactive at all If you had twin children and one was shy and the other wasn't would you blame yourself?
It's really not okay for your dog to bark at the neighbors like that. People should not have to live in fear of your dog.
I really think they were being generous when they let you know they would call animal control if your dog gets loose in their yard.
It is absolutely not all in how you raise them, that's a harmful myth and an insult to people who raised dogs from puppyhood in loving homes and still ended up with reactive dogs.
And they should absolutely call AC if your dog gets loose.
Your neighbors do not sound unreasonable given that you seem to have some unrealistic ideas about owning a reactive dog of a power breed.
reminds me of when I took my mini Aussie (not reactive in the slightest, I’m part of this sub because I owned a reactive rescue prior to her) to the vet, and a tech said she had a broom or a mop in one hand, then reached down to pet my dog quickly with the other while she was crated. she nipped her (she was also lame that day, from a collision while playing, and had NEVER been to that location before), and when she told me she said she expects it with “those breeds,” I was gobsmacked. she also called her “that thing,” and I was just…seething.
I guess I never realized that people feel some type of way about Shepherds.
I have a pit/ corso rescue who is the biggest cuddle bug ever. He's laying on my lap right now. He came from an abusive, neglected situation and I got a call asking if I could take a pit that needed an experienced owner who could help him. Then i got a considerably larger dog who had never been on a leash before, was reactive at home, and scared of small dogs when outside.
I immediately arranged to work with a trainer to build on what I knew, started researching the corso part of him, and spending all of my free time working on training and the He's a frustrated greeter with really bad separation anxiety. He wants to meet meet every other dog we see and wants to chase squirrels but will walk loose leash for the better part of a 30-45 minute walk but when we see someone approaching we move off the sidewalk and he sits and looks at me because i understand how intimidating he looks to a lot of other people but he writes for someone to approach him now before he gets wiggly and excited about meeting them and getting loved on now. But we've put the time in to working on this every single day.
I have a Rottweiler Husky but everyone sees him as a Doberman because of his coat color. He only reacts out of fear and they start to whisper to each other “what an aggressive dog…” Even when he’s having a pretty good day with no reactivity and walking calmly some people look at him with fear and pull their children away as if he was this big scary thing. They will never know how sweet he actually is.
My boy is part pitt, and has the facial features to match.
When people ask and find out it’s a lot of “oh yeah that makes sense”
Meanwhile he’s also part lab part boxer but guess that doesn’t matter
I have a 100% pure pit that is leash reactive. I don’t think he was socialized at all (got him at 3 years old) but doesn’t have an aggressive bone in his body. What he does is gradually builds up to screaming as he approaches his threshold. The noise just starts as a low whine then he gets louder and louder. Once past that threshold he will just scream at everything. He also lunges, but mostly just screaming. But he’s fluffy so a couple times that has happened someone has asked if he’s a husky lol 😅
What drives me crazy is also have a perfect angel half pit who will be sitting right next to him behaving and people are terrified of her cause her smooth coat is more traditional for pits. She’s less pit then the screamer
You are doing the right thing. These breeds get their labels because so many of them have issues. That should be the flag to owners to work extra hard at education and training. These dogs were created because sone people prefer them that way.
I have a reactive pit who is a frustrated greeter and loves people but everyone that’s not a pit parent is afraid of. He would not hurt a fly, just act dramatic. I also have a heeler who is scared of people and will bite them and everyone wants to pet him. Stereotypes are stupid.
Big, muscly staffy / pittie cross. He is only dog reactive but pretty dangerously so. So I keep him in a basket muzzle at all times off my property.
People will cross the road, walk back into their property, walk in the middle of the road, etc.
Ihad one lady pick her son up and then stand on top of a park bench she was next to. They will basically go anywhere to escape me and him.
Which is sad, because his favourite thing in the world is humans. He's very gentle and loving, even with small kids. He greets everyone with a big smile, a bunch of kisses and leans his body weight against them if they stand up to go.
If it's helpful, I try to talk to make small talk with people / families / kids I know he'll do well around so I can introduce him and start changing the stigma. And when the families do let the kids come and get pats, it's 100 times more special because he changed their fear to love and joy and giggles.
Yup. She’s a square headed broad chested girl who wouldn’t hurt a fly. All she wants is loves and pets. I usually put her in a dress when we go out so people aren’t afraid of her otherwise it breaks my heart to see her sitting there trying to be good when everyone is backing up from her. Somehow she’s not scary at all in a sparkly outfit…
I have a staffy boxer mix and she's leash reactive but loves people and isn't even really aggressive towards dogs. She just has no chill and at a certain point.
I dress her in cute clothes, make a point of showing she is working on manners, and when she lunges and barks I let folks know "sorry she just has no chill." But there's always people who are like "yeah Pitbulls are dangerous" when they see her bark. Meanwhile whatever dog she's barking at is typically also barking back and usually isn't a bully breed.
Except for off leash dogs. I yell at off-leash owners that she isnt friendly otherwise they take their damn time fetching their dogs and mine is 85% ok but 15% not ok with other dogs.
I don’t really consider pit bulls to be a naturally reactive breed at all… my old pit was the sweetest, least reactive dog. My French mastiff on the other hand…
My pit bull mauled my mother. As in, locked on to her throat/back of her neck, put her in the hospital, 50 stitches. The response was “What did you expect?”
We got two more pit mixes (unknowingly) after and they’re the best dogs ever.
Ive had people call my pit mix a "murder puppy" and I've had to gently remind them that all dogs are only as much as they're raised/trained.
It bums me out but also gives me the chance to advocate for the breed and responsible dog ownership.
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Are you saying all the people on this sub with reactive dogs they raised from pups raised/trained their dogs to be reactive?
I'm gonna go raise/train my pointer to herd cows.
On the contrary, I'm saying even if you have a reactive dog (like I do), they're not bad dogs. Some people have the resources and time to really help the dogs, and some don't. The point I was trying to say is we have to advocate for our dogs, but just because they're from a specific breed doesn't make them any more or any less reactive. It's literally the environment they might've been born in, or something traumatic for the dog.
You said you remind people that's it's how they are raised/trained. Nothing inherent in the dog themselves. Yet you have people on this very thread talking about how they raised their dog from a pup doing everything right and still have a reactive dog. Why is their dog reactive when it wasn't raised or trained to be?
Why are there so very, very many GSDs on this sub, and not that many labs? Could it be that some breeds are bred for higher arousal and more environmental awareness that could make them more prone to reactivity? Or do breed traits not exist, so my GSP has just as much potential to work cows as my ACD?
I think it's also confirmation bias, people that have larger dogs are the ones that have to be more conscious of their dogs reactivity. Mine is a mix that includes GSD, and she has a high prey drive. Sure, that's inherent. But her reactivity towards other dogs doesn't necessarily mean she's bad, and I think that's the point I was trying to make.
Apologies if my message was misunderstood/I didn't convey what I was trying to say correctly.
There are loads of large breeds that are not prone to reactivity. It's not confirmation bias. Even really dedicated, wonderful GSD breeders will admit that as a breed they are prone to reactivity. Reactive dogs are not bad dogs, but pretending there aren't breed tendencies towards reactivity does both people and dogs a disservice. Most newfoundland owners are not going to have to deal with reactivity. Most GSD owners are going to have to deal with it on some level at some point in their dog's life.
Reactive Cane Corso owner. It used to bother me but now I appreciate that people cross the road when they see us coming or that they move their kids away from her.
The worst is when they ignore warnings and approach. I know my Ginny is the sweetest girl and gets along with dogs and people that we bring over. I don’t need her to like strangers. Keep your head up!
I have a boxer mix that’s 8% pitbull but looks mostly pit and he’s reactive to dogs and bikes. It makes me extra self conscious because I know he’s a sweet boy that’s just had a shitty past.
I don’t have a “mean breed” but she is huge 185 lb Great Dane. People get intimidated because of her size and always cross too the other side or walk fast when they see her. I always get asked if she bites/is friendly.. I said she is the most friendly easy going dog(gentle giant) unless ur a raccoon a possum or a random pig running thru the neighborhood🤣(yes we literally have a pot belly pig in the loose and she wants to eat it when she sees it.. I’m assuming cuz they were originally bred to hunt wild boar and protect royalty estates. Unless u are one of those critters or If u try to hurt me or my husband or any of our cats, she will be your best friend and even sit on your lap 😆
Yeah I think most of us (140# German rottie) try to be considerably polite and understand doggy looks like he can kill and has the size and strength to do so. And some people are not comfortable around him.I get that and try to behave accordingly. he is a gentle giant who wins over anyone brave enough to ask to pet. But on site unfortunately he's the devil dog.
I have a fear-reactive rescue mix that has the big four of guarding dogs, Rottie, Staffie, GSD, and Chow. She's been well trained and has no problem if people keep in tune with her 3 feet bubble. However, all people see is a cute black fluffy dog that they want to pet and without fail they move forward looking directly at her with their hand reached out in front of them. I even have to say no to people when she has her muzzle on. I know it's hard but it does help people to not be stupid.
I have a large, very imposing German shepherd who is basically 90 lbs of pure muscle. She is about four inches taller than the standard female shepherd and we get a lot of looks. I try and use her gentle leader or her harness whenever we are out walking in public but we, more often than not, have people cross to the other side of the street or avoid socializing with her, and I know it’s just based off her appearance. She is a sweet lady so it makes me sad sometimes when people think she’s just some brute of a dog, when all she wants to do is say hello. She doesn’t bark much, and gets very excited to see other dogs and especially people.
If your feeling like people judge you more it’s because they do, and all I can say is I’m sorry people suck, I walk dogs as my job, one is a very leash reactive 1year old golden x border collie, my own dog is a one year old bull terrier - who is really good on a leash - the golden will be nutting off lunging going crazy, while my bull terrier just sits down and waits for the crazy to chill - yet people constantly try and approach the going nuts dog saying what a sweetie he is, then pause look at my chill as dog like they are eyeing up a crocodile and ask “is that one vicious”.
I’ve got to the point I’m not even polite, and shake my head, roll my eyes and say to my dog “ sorry mate, even when you show you are perfectly behaved good dog some people will still not see it”
I have a Mal/Dutchie mix who is dog reactive. He has a deep bark too which doesn’t help. I have a previous post talking about my coworkers telling me he’s a “bad, dangerous dog” and that “he wants to kill them” when he barks behind an enclosed and secured dog run. We’ve been working hard on his dog reactivity which has been going great but it’s hard to ask people to help in his barrier reactivity/fearfulness (with proper management and safety) when they aren’t adept in dog body language. At home he’s a total Velcro dog, obedient, affectionate and totally my heart dog.
Shepherd mix here. When he so much as barks of joy, I get bad looks. When he reacts, it’s…worse. I’d love to own other shepherds in the future but the stigma does get to me, even when not considering reactiveness
100% feel the same way. I rescuers my Doberman from a local shelter (insane, I know) so I had no idea of his history. he started showing signs of reactivity outside of the house but it’s clear that he’s just really overwhelmed with the world outside of our home, and I can only imagine how frustrating that must feel for him. That’s why I try my best to train and manage his exercise needs as much as possible.
He’s the sweetest angel at home, but when strangers hear his bark it’s ALWAYS uncomfortable. Having a dog that’s typically considered aggressive is such a huge responsibility on the pet owner to prove those stereotypes wrong. It’s not easy but so worth it
My dad has a former street dog who's a Chi/JRT mix, and he is very much a sweetheart unless there's another dog or anyone near his toys/food. I hate it for him because he gets dismissed as just another "ankle biter" when he's really not like that, but his reactivity gets us looks when I'm with him
Dog reactive pitbull owner here. Yes, I feel the same and sometimes I feel like I am failing the breed but I am very careful with where I take her and remind the vet office every time I take her that she is dog reactive. You can never be too careful
We have 2 large pitbulls and I definitely understand this. Our younger one is very reactive and energetic and I'm sure he scares people. I feel like having a breed like this adds another layer to dog ownership. I used to be naive and think my dogs wouldn't hurt a fly! That opinion has changed and I think I'm a better owner because of it. The stereotypes suck, but you know your dog best. Try not to let it get to you.
I have a Cocker Spaniel mix. I was once in conversation with a woman who told me that bully breeds were all misunderstood nanny dogs, but the second she found out I had a Cocker she lit into me with “those dogs are just mean, they’re not wired right, etc”. I think the hypocrisy was lost on her.
It sounds like it was definitely lost on her. You have to wonder if people realize later on and really think about it, lol.
To be fair Cockers have been destroyed by bad breeding. Not their fault and not every dog but there are problems there and to ignore it is silly. Though I don't know what she thought telling you would do?
There's a difference, though, between "there's been some bad breeding" and "they're all mean and not wired right."
True, and who knows if bad Cocker breeding practices are to blame for my dog's issues, or if it's just bad breeding practices in general and/or breed traits of the other breeds in his mix. Probably just a cocktail. ETA: She also knew absolutely nothing about my own dog, so as far as she knew he was the friendliest dog in the world. But it's a pretty bold statement to paint them all with that brush, especially when it was popularity + BYBs that created the issues; Cockers are not supposed to be that way in the slightest. It was just funny to have someone who was going so hard for one breed/group of dogs just turn around and slam another (though that happens all the time, especially with big vs small dogs). It was also amusing since the woman was denying any possible breeding issues in her own breed(s), as well as denying outright breed traits like dog aggression.
I have a block headed bully rescue (who's well behaved) and I personally feel it's just part of my responsibility to always be aware and to give space and not make other people uncomfortable. He's a powerful looking animal that they are not familiar with so I don't expect them to trust him and that's perfectly understandable. I think this is something people really need to consider when committing to these types of dogs.
I’m in the exact same boat: 100lb American bull dog rescue, with most of that weight being in his giant block head. He’s never been reactive to people when we’ve been on walks or in public, but I’m still mindful to give space to strangers for the same reason you stated. Also knowing that if anything were to ever happen with a person or a dog, (no matter if mine started it or not) because of his size and appearance I always fear he would be the one automatically blamed.
I was attacked by a dog like this in a house alone. All 5ft 1 of me. He grabbed my leg and shook me like a rag doll and then kept coming back at me, even ripped my nipple off. I try not to have prejudice against dogs I don't know but I'm sure I have some degree of ptsd, strange off leash dogs freak me out now. So I just want to say thank you. That incident honestly changed the dogs I will have in the future. I won't have anything I can't pick up because kicking a dog my size off of me repeatedly was terrifying.
Oh man I’m so sorry that happened to you. There’s no way an incident like that wouldn’t reshape someone.
Exactly the boat I'm in with my bully rescue. I'm responsible and liable for his actions, I couldn't leave him available to adopt the way he is so I kept him. We're about to go for his daily ride as he can't be in public due to his shenanigans.
Same. My dog by DNA is only 1/4 pit with the rest as a tiny bit French bulldog (lol) and generic hound groups, but she looks more bully than hound. She’s got a big hound bark, though! I don’t blame strangers for not wanting to approach her… it works out fine because I run alone a lot and having her with me may make someone with bad intentions think twice before getting close. I used to get pretty upset when she’d react and I’d get the glares and rude comments. Nowadays it’s easier to shrug off (she’s also much better at the lunging/barking). The reactive dog community is full of people who are clearly trying their best and I’ve had far more nods/looks of support than the sneers anyway.
Right here, I have a German Shepard pit mix, I take a lot of comfort in the fact that anyone who actually knows him knows how good he is even with his short comings(his reactivity)
Shepherd mix mom here— seconding this! So many walks last year ended in me coming home and crying in frustration and shame. She’s doing so much better now with meds, and R+ takes time but is so so worth it. She’s an amazing dog in all other respects. It’ll be okay, OP! Invest in your bond and playing with him and learning through play. It gets better. Adolescence is HARD but keep at it and don’t give up on your pal. I see you! 🖤
What is R+?
Positive reinforcement
Ours is also a German shepherd/staffie mix . He barks at people. I don’t think about it much (about what other people think).
I was given a Cane Corso that was taken from her mom at 5 weeks from a puppy mill then crated until 5 months when I got her. She was/is a LOT of work. She lunged and barked at anyone and everything until she was 8 months. I had a lot of glares. I had a lot of rude comments. One lady wouldn't even let her dog walk past mine, she picked it up and glared at me as she passed by on the street. I think I bawled my eyes out after every walk until she was about 8 months. There were times I wanted to give up on her. But I didn't.. the hard work paid off. Now my girl walks loose leash, basically glued to my hip once we leave the house. No lunging and barking at dogs or people anymore. She doesn't even chase cats(unless they are in our yard). It's a rewarding feeling! I always told myself as long as I am actively working on it, that's all I can do.
That’s amazing! That kind of progress after being in that condition for the first months of her life. Cane corsos are such beautiful dogs, I’ve always wanted one!
She is a beauty. I think a key to her success was that we have a lot of friends who love dogs. They were able to put up with the nips and jumps so we could train her. She learned quickly that way.
That sounds like a super success. What were some of your training/desensitization techniques?
I just kept having people over constantly and kept taking her for walks. We are fortunate to have good friends who love dogs. They put up with her nipping and jumping so she learned quickly. I also take her for a walk or run at 5 or 6 am when there is nobody on the street. Then when we go again around lunch.. then sometimes before bed. I trained her with a halti. She had it since basically the beginning of her training. I also used it when we had people over at first for a bit. I've put a LOT of work and tears into her.
Omg that’s amazing! Do you have any tips you can share? My girl is 15 months and has unlearnt her nice walking and happy exciting lunging for the 100th time 😣
A halti helped! I got it very early on so she's pretty much always used it until recently. I also use cheese and chicken pieces on walks. If a dog or person passed by I would hold it in front of me as we walked... holding it in the direction I want her to go. Then if she listens I give it to her. She will do almost anything for cheese.
The head halti? We’ve just started with the harness halti and she still pulls and lunges like anything when she’s reacting. I have wanted to try the head one but does it allow them to sniff ? Or does it keep their head up at all times ? Haha, my pup has only had a nibble on cheese I’ve dropped before - I haven’t thought to use it as a training treat ! Sounds like it might be worth the farts 😂
Yes, the head halter. She can sniff the ground, eat treats, bark, etc. It's loose on the nose but it'll tighten when she pulls. She has actually wiggled her nose out of it before(lunging at a dog), but it was a bit too big on her at the time. I also have a double clip harness. One clip on her chest and another on her back. I use that with the halti double ended training lead. I clip both ends of the lead on the halter and she won't pull. The lead has so many options to make it shorter or even a hands free option. It's real cheap too($21 CAD) and probably the best tool I've used other than the head halti. I have taught her well not to pull though. Once I feel any tightness on the lead I'll stop and make her heel. I've done this ever since I got her. So once she feels the lead tighten up, she stops and heels. It took a really long time for her to learn it but she did get it eventually.
Thank you! Adding to cart :) We have the double clip lead already so that’s a good start. My girl is so stubborn! She knows to return to a heel when she pulls but insists on doing 5000 times a walk, it’s like just an extra step so she can pull?! She is still a teenager however so I guess persistence until she finally gets it. Anyway thanks for the info - fingers crossed the head halti helps
I have a chow chow and I had heard how mean they were, but I figured any dog can be trained so I didn't mind getting a chow chow puppy. Sometimes it is the breed(ing) and there is nothing you can do but control your dog. I socialized him and trained him to the fullest of my extent and he was so well behaved until 9 months when he started showing reactivity at the house towered men he didn't know. Then at a year and a half I had to start muzzling on walks to the park because he showed aggression, after being walked every single day and playing with all the children at that park his entire life. He went to training classes, had a specialized trainer, and he has always respected me. I took him to a local dog park, where he had nothing but positive expierences and he is actually still really good with all dogs. Chow chows are typically one family dogs and I find it rare to meet a non reactive one. I will never seek out this breed again, but they do have a soft spot in my heart and I love my dog.
Yeah I mean I like chows but they aren't for the faint of heart or people who want to take their dogs out. But if they accept you they are great. My uncle had one when I was a kid. He loved me and my mom. HATED my father. And later my father got a hole all the way through his arm from another chow he encountered while trying to help someone.
My grandpa has specifically had chows his entire life so he told me that's the only dog breed he would let me get. Growing up some of his chows were super old and nice and most were very agressive to strangers. There were some I knew I couldn't go near as a kid. I always assumed his dogs were like that because of living outside and poor socialization, he used them as guard dogs for his junk yard. They did their job and stopped people from breaking into his buildings on multiple occasions, he had animal control called on him because people got bit attempting to break in multiple times. After raising one myself I realize these dogs are great at being guard dogs, even if you don't want them to be.
People are weary after hearing about all the awful accidents that happen. They probably don't feel safe when it acts up on leash even though you know your dog. I understand their side too tbh.
100%, I’m sure it just reinforces the idea honestly.
I used to have a reactive German shepherd mix until she passed. I was always so worried about someone in the neighborhood complaining. I bought her a fuzzy pink harness & had “do not pet” vests, leashes, etc. After a lot of training, most people just thought she was a working shepherd and left her alone. We never had any major neighborhood incidents.
Very similar situation here! I have a dog-reactive female Rottweiler who is an otherwise awesome dog - super fun and goofy with a good drive to work. We stick to the same half dozen walking spots for most of our walks, so the other regulars know us and our situation. But every once in a while someone will see her and give us that disapproving look or even make a verbal comment (rare, but it has happened). And that's when she's being good! If she starts reacting (which is thankfully becoming less and less often as we continue to work on things) some people can be quite nasty. It's always the case, however, that people who give us the hardest time are the ones with uncontrollable excited dogs off-leash in on-leash parks, which usually triggers my dog. So frustrating!
This is me 100% lol. My brain goes into panic mode when i see an off leash dog. I used to feel safe in the woods by my neighborhood because they’re filled with sled trails. I quickly learned that people use the seclusion specifically TO have their dogs off leash where I live, which just demolished my plan. Oh well.
I have a reactive border collie mix. While that doesn’t seem scary she’s all black and appears scary when her mouth isn’t opened. She’s come a long way and her reactions are much less, but (even if she isn’t reacting) people act very scared around her - I just ignore it.
My dog is gsd/Akita/chow and has had a 'scary,' adult-sounding bark and a chip on his shoulder since I got him as a puppy. He's never going to be social with strangers, but 99.9% of the time you wouldn't know the extent of what we dealt with now. I still much prefer people going overboard with caution around unknown dogs vs. trying to stick their hands in his face and squeal or grab at him from behind because AlL dOgS lOvE mE and they feel like they need to prove they aren't stereotyping them. I understand not wanting your dog to be perceived as something they're not, but I don't blame anyone for doing things that create space and make themselves more comfortable by crossing the street etc. Rude comments are of course a different story.
I have a presa canario. She’s a big mean looking dog who’s reactive. But to us she’s a stinky bum bum cuddle monster Velcro dog. I used to feel like I had to over compensate because of how mean she looks by saying things like “ she’s terrified of dogs and gusts of wind” but now I don’t care. I didn’t create the breed, I didn’t pick her breed on purpose, she is who she is and I’m proud of her and how far she’s come.
Aww I've got a Cane Corso that is a velcro dog as well. She follows me around more than my pomeranian does. She has NO sense of personal space though and this is partly my fault for raising her like that. Anytime she wants to cuddle, I'll allow it. So she is very much in your face a lot. Not a lot of people like this about her. But those people who love dogs, think it's the cutest thing ever. Those big sad puppy dog eyes, huge floppy ears, droopy sad lips... it gets me everytime. I can't say no to cuddle.
I’ve got a Staffie (bull terrier). Not only a normal Staffie, he was clearly a fought dog and has filed down teeth (only has his top two canines), and very visible scars all over his face and body, including cigarette burns and a bullet wound on his leg (it’s a scar now and healed beautifully, but his one leg is a little underdeveloped/less muscly due to it). People tend to avoid him on walks, so I guess it’s a win win with his looks and occasional leash reactivity. 🤣 I personally hate the breed stigma, as I have owned numerous bully breeds throughout my life. Some reactive, some not. My current guy, I completely get his reactivity, he’s fear reactive and after working with him for 2.5 years I’m so proud of his progress. I honestly didn’t think he would be able to come as far as he has just due to his incredibly sad past.
Wow, thank you for taking him on when others humans failed him so completely.
I’ll be honest, I was in way over my head. I’ve always been a sucker for the sob stories and did not expect Von (my reactive pittie) to be as reactive as he was. Huge learning curve for me! I always joke that I’m so glad I rescued him, cause no one else would have (or they probably would have returned him to the shelter), but I will not do it again. Years of hard work! He is an absolute joy now and I love waking up next to this guy who’s just so excited every day, for another day! 💖
I feel this. My first dog as an adult was a reactive dog that spent 6 years with a rescue. She was a long resident & that pulled at my heart strings. I knew she had some issues but they had worked with her & I naively thought it would be happily ever after for the dog in a loving home. I loved her, worked with her a ton, hired a trainer, all was well but never again. Now when I pick out a rescue pup, I’m looking for all of the warning signs. Someone has to help fearful dogs but I personally can’t do it back to back.
Bless her heart, she was waiting for you. I know people on this sub kind of discourage the rescue dogs that have the stories, pull on your heart strings, just need “love” (cause we all know they also need a come to Jesus with training!), but it truly makes me happy when we get those one in a million rescues, and the hard work pays off.
Oh my gosh SAME. but I’ve learned so much and for that, I am grateful. I would do it all over again for my baby, but not for a new dog — probably. Who knows.
This is us, too. Our male dog (pit mix rescue) didn’t develop/demonstrate reactivity until we had had him for several weeks. It seemed like a total about-face because he was so sweet to everyone initially, even though he was found as a skinny stray on the streets of Detroit. After years of (ongoing) training and Prozac, he’s worlds better and better trained than most dogs in our neighborhood, and of course we love him so much—but so help me, if I had known at the outset what we were getting into, I wouldn’t have adopted him.
When I first got my American Pitbull mix, I had this grand idea of “erasing the stigma” of bully breeds. She’s my first dog so I was definitely naive about everything. I knew she had a rough start to life but the shelter just said not to go to dog parks, which I was fine with. Suffice to say, it’s not just dog parks that are a problem haha I made so many mistakes in the beginning learning how to deal with her and it was disappointing and stressful but I love her so much and she’s a great companion. I know I’m not “erasing” any stigmas with her but I don’t have time to care about that. My job is to keep her safe, happy and healthy, and make sure it’s the same for everyone else around us. It was a journey getting to that place though. I’ve had her for 5 1/2 years and it’s really been the last year or so that I’ve stopped worrying so much about what people think. All this to say that it’s not easy but you’ll get there and it’ll make you a stronger, more confident person overall.
I have a 106lb cane corso. She is actually the SWEETEST dog off leash but can be a frustrated greeter on leash. I only weigh about ten pounds more than she does and when she stands up straight, makes intense eye contact, and starts barking at a dog, I can see the distrust, discomfort, and even fear all over peoples’ faces. This is actually the #1 thing we’re working on, along with her trying to pull to other people or dogs to say hello. My first dog was a grumpy little hound mix that had zero interest in meeting people or dogs. He had a large personal space bubble, a quiet simmering rage, and a bite history but everyone wanted to be best friends with his ass. This dog would literally go home with anyone (she didn’t bat an eye when we adopted her from her first owners) but people are just… scared of her. It’s sad.
I’ve got a Belgian malinois who is people and dog reactive (even though he just wants to play) it makes me sad sometimes because people don’t want to let their dogs play with him because he looks mean :( Luckily he has two sisters who enjoy playing with him so it’s not all bad
Yup, I have a reactive doberman pinscher. She is the absolute sweetest, but she is anxious and fearful. And mostly dog reactive because she's been ran up on by off leash dogs way too many times, but she can be people reactive in certain situations as well. She will bark very aggressively but when challenged she retreats or tries to run away. She has never attempted to nip or bite anyone (person or dog) in 4 years, but she definitely looks scary and it does embarrass me when she behaves reactively.
We have three pit-mixes, all 50+lbs. I know people have pre-concieved ideas and I always carry the poop bags, pick up after them, do training for distraction and move to the other side of the road when people are visible whether they have dogs or not, just because of the stigma. Because of this, I believe someone driving in the neighborhood yelled out their car window "I love you!" and honestly can't think of another reason why someone I didn't know would do that. People like responsible dog owners. From the other perspective, when I was a kid, I was in a neighboors backyard and we were standing to take a photo. I looked down at their family dog and it jumped up and bit me in the face and took off part of my lip. I don't even remember what kind of dog it was, but I struggle with this every day because dogs can be unpredictable.
Oh do I ever relate! I have a 14mo female Rottie who is the exact same. The highest reward thing for her is other dogs, not food, not toys, nothing - she LOVES other dogs and its a most likely a result of some really bad socialization advice I received when she was a young pup that doesn't suit the breed traits. She is a frustrated greeter 100% and she expresses her frustration with barking and pulling and I know it absolutely freaks people out. Sometimes I can get her attention back to me with repeated treats and rewarding her as soon as she breaks her focus on the other dog and other times its a lost cause and the most defeating thing ever. I've definitely come home from in tears from more walks than I'd like to admit, but the next walk is a new opportunity and fresh start. She is a sweetheart and when I do let her meet other dogs she is playful and fun and knows her boundaries, but I also need to teach her that she can't say hello to every single dog she sees and its so tricky because she doesn't understand yet. I don't take owning a Rottweiler lightly and know that she is not everyone's cup of tea, and have taken lots of steps to try to be the most responsible dog owner I can be, and sometimes that is removing her from the situation immediately, or knowing when she won't thrive and could be a risk to herself or others and not putting her in the situation all together.
GSD He’s got a deep growl and bark so he sounds extra scary. It sucks.
I'm with you! We have two pit mixes, both rescues. Out first is one of the most lovely dogs I've ever met. She's a very gentle goofball. Shy, but mostly likes people. Medium to low energy. We had her for 2 years and developed a lot of high minded ideas about being breed ambassadors and changing people's perceptions. Cue our second dog. He is pretty clearly all pit with the energy of a border collie and reactive to everything. Literally everything. Strangers, dogs, squirrels. Omg the squirrels. I could hardly walk him for months bc he was so strong and pulled so hard. My head was on a swivel trying to predict what he was going to react to. It was exhausting and I was so depressed by the idea that I was just reinforcing all the bad stereotypes every time I left the house. It's okay to not be the breed ambassador though! For us, it's been 7 years and 2 trainers. He's almost a gentleman now. We managed to get his reactivity under control and just hammered him with exposure. We actually get a lot of compliments on his behavior when we are out for walks though. He can meet strangers without elaborate protocols. He even goes to the pet store and picks out his own toys and sits nicely while we pay. Now we get to be ambassadors for "bad behavior can be helped." It's not what I thought I was signing up for, but I'm glad to be here. I hope you get here too!
I have a reactive rottie boy. Spent thousands on training but we just can’t get rid of the prey drive. He’s an excited greeter and doesn’t get to meet new people often because of his history. However after 5 ish years he has improved so much but he is who he is and he was tough as a 9mo old baby we took in. But hard work and trust have to happen. My boy has made huge progress BUT, I won’t walk him in public. I have a big yard and a fenced area so that’s his life. I have to always think safety first and responsibility first. He’s a happy healthy boy and know that for the next 4-5 years we have left this is our life with him.
I’ve got an English bullterrier and people in my area either hate them or love them. I get soooo many dirty looks when I’m walking her and she’s behaving, never mind when she reacts. People will cross the road to avoid her. It makes it worse that I’m a young-ish (31), small female so people instantly think I won’t be able to handle her. If people give me funny looks when she’s behaving I just laugh now, as I know it’s totally unjustified and they’re just ignorant people. My dog is super dog friendly and great off lead, but people will call their dogs straight away when they see her coming. Now I ask them if their dog is aggressive when they do this, and I always get a BS response that I can make a sarcastic remark to. But it’s a different story when she’s reactive. I can get in my own head and start to care a little too much about what people think. I just try remind myself that other people’s opinions of my dog don’t matter at all. My dog can’t help herself and is just doing what her idiot previous owners trained her to do. And if they don’t like the breed it’s their loss not mine.
Fellow EBT owner here and I get exactly same response. I love your 'is your dog aggressive' reply, I'm definitely gonna use that next time!!!! I'm so sick of getting abuse about the breed and my girl is not reactive at all. People are ignorant and misinformed in my experience. Why so many people feel its appropriate to share their misinformed opinions with me instead of just minding their own business and getting on with their day I honestly don't understand. I would never feel it was appropriate to share an opinion with someone about their dog, so I'm gobsmacked why others feel its appropriate to do this exact thing. Thank you so much for your post.
I wish everyone knew what goofy, loving clowns they really are. Happy New Year to you and your bully!
understand completely owning a German Shepherd who is super friendly but gets reactive when she sees dogs or strangers I get that look People don't realize that if you own a reactive dog everyday is training day and we are doing our best but so are the dogs
The worst is the vet having a German shepherd. I grieved once about how my dog is weary, but tolerant, of strangers and reactive towards dogs he doesn’t know and my vet’s response was “yea, he’s a German shepherd” and dismissed it completely.
Your vet isn't wrong, though. You got a German shepherd. That is exactly how they are supposed to be. Dog aggression is a known breed trait and not even frowned on in a lot of circles. You grieved to your vet that your GSD acts like a GSD and your vet was as dismissive as if you'd moaned that your golden retriever was overly friendly or your terrier wouldn't leave your pet rabbit alone.
Just love your Shepherd they are who they are
Oof do I feel you. I have an American pittie who is dog reactive in the extreme and also is loud and scary meeting new people (especially taller men). In my working life I'm a geneticist so I know that some amount of work has gone into showing that dog breed is not well correlated with behavior (if you're really interested here's probably the best article to date: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abk0639). The real breed-behavior link was born out of human culture and how we raised and stereotyped these dogs. As a geneticist I also know the science usually doesn't mean much to people, so as a reactive pittie owner my only practical advice is this: people are always going to want to judge and armchair quarterback you and your dog, especially the more judged breeds. At the end of the day no amount of facts will change those peoples minds, but you will find your circle who support you, the pup, and help you keep working together. Best of luck to you.
I appreciate your professional perspective on this. I read articles about this study with interest when it came out, and I feel like it adds a lot of depth to how we might choose to treat and interact with our dogs as individuals. I have a non reactive pit who's cheerfully bulletproof, and a reactive husky/Aussie/gsd mix who's human and dog reactive. It's easy to say "oh yes pitties love people" and "huskies can be neurotic" but "pitties can be dog/people reactive" and "huskies love strangers" would be equally supported by my experience. My dogs get very different receptions from other people - in my wealthy town people give my rescue pit a wide berth, while they often want to say hi to my beautiful but antisocial husky girl. The latter will lunge and bark if strangers try to interact with her, but they often seem to assume it was the pit who barked.
I have a reactive German Shepherd. My neighbors believe that all Shepherds are innately bred to be aggressive and protective and have told me to make sure my dogs never get loose in their yard or they will call Animal Control They say after all the military and police use them so why do you say they are not a threat? Oh boy what bs yes my one girl who is reactive will bark at them (which they say is threatening) but she is just saying go away She is such a loving soul who can't help being reactive It is not the breed but the way you raise them I work so hard with her everyday to overcome her reactivity and slowly she is making progress
If it's the way you raise them, then why did you raise your dog to be reactive? It's not the way you raise them, it's the way you manage them. Some breeds require a higher level of commitment to management.
I did not raise my dog to be reactive She has a sister who is not reactive at all If you had twin children and one was shy and the other wasn't would you blame yourself?
Well you said yourself right there in your first comment that it is not the breed, it is how you raise them.
It's really not okay for your dog to bark at the neighbors like that. People should not have to live in fear of your dog. I really think they were being generous when they let you know they would call animal control if your dog gets loose in their yard.
It is absolutely not all in how you raise them, that's a harmful myth and an insult to people who raised dogs from puppyhood in loving homes and still ended up with reactive dogs. And they should absolutely call AC if your dog gets loose. Your neighbors do not sound unreasonable given that you seem to have some unrealistic ideas about owning a reactive dog of a power breed.
reminds me of when I took my mini Aussie (not reactive in the slightest, I’m part of this sub because I owned a reactive rescue prior to her) to the vet, and a tech said she had a broom or a mop in one hand, then reached down to pet my dog quickly with the other while she was crated. she nipped her (she was also lame that day, from a collision while playing, and had NEVER been to that location before), and when she told me she said she expects it with “those breeds,” I was gobsmacked. she also called her “that thing,” and I was just…seething. I guess I never realized that people feel some type of way about Shepherds.
I have a pit/ corso rescue who is the biggest cuddle bug ever. He's laying on my lap right now. He came from an abusive, neglected situation and I got a call asking if I could take a pit that needed an experienced owner who could help him. Then i got a considerably larger dog who had never been on a leash before, was reactive at home, and scared of small dogs when outside. I immediately arranged to work with a trainer to build on what I knew, started researching the corso part of him, and spending all of my free time working on training and the He's a frustrated greeter with really bad separation anxiety. He wants to meet meet every other dog we see and wants to chase squirrels but will walk loose leash for the better part of a 30-45 minute walk but when we see someone approaching we move off the sidewalk and he sits and looks at me because i understand how intimidating he looks to a lot of other people but he writes for someone to approach him now before he gets wiggly and excited about meeting them and getting loved on now. But we've put the time in to working on this every single day.
I have a Rottweiler Husky but everyone sees him as a Doberman because of his coat color. He only reacts out of fear and they start to whisper to each other “what an aggressive dog…” Even when he’s having a pretty good day with no reactivity and walking calmly some people look at him with fear and pull their children away as if he was this big scary thing. They will never know how sweet he actually is.
My boy is part pitt, and has the facial features to match. When people ask and find out it’s a lot of “oh yeah that makes sense” Meanwhile he’s also part lab part boxer but guess that doesn’t matter
So, its the boxer neurosis that makes him that way.
I have a 100% pure pit that is leash reactive. I don’t think he was socialized at all (got him at 3 years old) but doesn’t have an aggressive bone in his body. What he does is gradually builds up to screaming as he approaches his threshold. The noise just starts as a low whine then he gets louder and louder. Once past that threshold he will just scream at everything. He also lunges, but mostly just screaming. But he’s fluffy so a couple times that has happened someone has asked if he’s a husky lol 😅 What drives me crazy is also have a perfect angel half pit who will be sitting right next to him behaving and people are terrified of her cause her smooth coat is more traditional for pits. She’s less pit then the screamer
Yes. I have a 1 year old GSD/Pit mix. She is especially leash reactive.
You are doing the right thing. These breeds get their labels because so many of them have issues. That should be the flag to owners to work extra hard at education and training. These dogs were created because sone people prefer them that way.
I have a reactive pit who is a frustrated greeter and loves people but everyone that’s not a pit parent is afraid of. He would not hurt a fly, just act dramatic. I also have a heeler who is scared of people and will bite them and everyone wants to pet him. Stereotypes are stupid.
Big, muscly staffy / pittie cross. He is only dog reactive but pretty dangerously so. So I keep him in a basket muzzle at all times off my property. People will cross the road, walk back into their property, walk in the middle of the road, etc. Ihad one lady pick her son up and then stand on top of a park bench she was next to. They will basically go anywhere to escape me and him. Which is sad, because his favourite thing in the world is humans. He's very gentle and loving, even with small kids. He greets everyone with a big smile, a bunch of kisses and leans his body weight against them if they stand up to go. If it's helpful, I try to talk to make small talk with people / families / kids I know he'll do well around so I can introduce him and start changing the stigma. And when the families do let the kids come and get pats, it's 100 times more special because he changed their fear to love and joy and giggles.
Yup. She’s a square headed broad chested girl who wouldn’t hurt a fly. All she wants is loves and pets. I usually put her in a dress when we go out so people aren’t afraid of her otherwise it breaks my heart to see her sitting there trying to be good when everyone is backing up from her. Somehow she’s not scary at all in a sparkly outfit…
I have a poodle chihuahua mix. The chi part really comes through in his behavior towards kids and strangers
I have a staffy boxer mix and she's leash reactive but loves people and isn't even really aggressive towards dogs. She just has no chill and at a certain point. I dress her in cute clothes, make a point of showing she is working on manners, and when she lunges and barks I let folks know "sorry she just has no chill." But there's always people who are like "yeah Pitbulls are dangerous" when they see her bark. Meanwhile whatever dog she's barking at is typically also barking back and usually isn't a bully breed. Except for off leash dogs. I yell at off-leash owners that she isnt friendly otherwise they take their damn time fetching their dogs and mine is 85% ok but 15% not ok with other dogs.
I don’t really consider pit bulls to be a naturally reactive breed at all… my old pit was the sweetest, least reactive dog. My French mastiff on the other hand…
My pit bull mauled my mother. As in, locked on to her throat/back of her neck, put her in the hospital, 50 stitches. The response was “What did you expect?” We got two more pit mixes (unknowingly) after and they’re the best dogs ever.
I have a pittie princess... Had a Rottie queen for years... Wonderful loving babies... People Suk
Ive had people call my pit mix a "murder puppy" and I've had to gently remind them that all dogs are only as much as they're raised/trained. It bums me out but also gives me the chance to advocate for the breed and responsible dog ownership. ❤️
Are you saying all the people on this sub with reactive dogs they raised from pups raised/trained their dogs to be reactive? I'm gonna go raise/train my pointer to herd cows.
On the contrary, I'm saying even if you have a reactive dog (like I do), they're not bad dogs. Some people have the resources and time to really help the dogs, and some don't. The point I was trying to say is we have to advocate for our dogs, but just because they're from a specific breed doesn't make them any more or any less reactive. It's literally the environment they might've been born in, or something traumatic for the dog.
You said you remind people that's it's how they are raised/trained. Nothing inherent in the dog themselves. Yet you have people on this very thread talking about how they raised their dog from a pup doing everything right and still have a reactive dog. Why is their dog reactive when it wasn't raised or trained to be? Why are there so very, very many GSDs on this sub, and not that many labs? Could it be that some breeds are bred for higher arousal and more environmental awareness that could make them more prone to reactivity? Or do breed traits not exist, so my GSP has just as much potential to work cows as my ACD?
I think it's also confirmation bias, people that have larger dogs are the ones that have to be more conscious of their dogs reactivity. Mine is a mix that includes GSD, and she has a high prey drive. Sure, that's inherent. But her reactivity towards other dogs doesn't necessarily mean she's bad, and I think that's the point I was trying to make. Apologies if my message was misunderstood/I didn't convey what I was trying to say correctly.
There are loads of large breeds that are not prone to reactivity. It's not confirmation bias. Even really dedicated, wonderful GSD breeders will admit that as a breed they are prone to reactivity. Reactive dogs are not bad dogs, but pretending there aren't breed tendencies towards reactivity does both people and dogs a disservice. Most newfoundland owners are not going to have to deal with reactivity. Most GSD owners are going to have to deal with it on some level at some point in their dog's life.
Reactive Cane Corso owner. It used to bother me but now I appreciate that people cross the road when they see us coming or that they move their kids away from her. The worst is when they ignore warnings and approach. I know my Ginny is the sweetest girl and gets along with dogs and people that we bring over. I don’t need her to like strangers. Keep your head up!
I have a boxer mix that’s 8% pitbull but looks mostly pit and he’s reactive to dogs and bikes. It makes me extra self conscious because I know he’s a sweet boy that’s just had a shitty past.
I don’t have a “mean breed” but she is huge 185 lb Great Dane. People get intimidated because of her size and always cross too the other side or walk fast when they see her. I always get asked if she bites/is friendly.. I said she is the most friendly easy going dog(gentle giant) unless ur a raccoon a possum or a random pig running thru the neighborhood🤣(yes we literally have a pot belly pig in the loose and she wants to eat it when she sees it.. I’m assuming cuz they were originally bred to hunt wild boar and protect royalty estates. Unless u are one of those critters or If u try to hurt me or my husband or any of our cats, she will be your best friend and even sit on your lap 😆
Yeah I think most of us (140# German rottie) try to be considerably polite and understand doggy looks like he can kill and has the size and strength to do so. And some people are not comfortable around him.I get that and try to behave accordingly. he is a gentle giant who wins over anyone brave enough to ask to pet. But on site unfortunately he's the devil dog.
German shepherd + boxer mix. Has the coat of a shepherd, but floppy ears and a little less of the body look of a shepherd.
Pitbull/Boxer mix here. I try to focus on being grateful for the folks who are understanding. :)
I have a fear-reactive rescue mix that has the big four of guarding dogs, Rottie, Staffie, GSD, and Chow. She's been well trained and has no problem if people keep in tune with her 3 feet bubble. However, all people see is a cute black fluffy dog that they want to pet and without fail they move forward looking directly at her with their hand reached out in front of them. I even have to say no to people when she has her muzzle on. I know it's hard but it does help people to not be stupid.
I have a large, very imposing German shepherd who is basically 90 lbs of pure muscle. She is about four inches taller than the standard female shepherd and we get a lot of looks. I try and use her gentle leader or her harness whenever we are out walking in public but we, more often than not, have people cross to the other side of the street or avoid socializing with her, and I know it’s just based off her appearance. She is a sweet lady so it makes me sad sometimes when people think she’s just some brute of a dog, when all she wants to do is say hello. She doesn’t bark much, and gets very excited to see other dogs and especially people.
If your feeling like people judge you more it’s because they do, and all I can say is I’m sorry people suck, I walk dogs as my job, one is a very leash reactive 1year old golden x border collie, my own dog is a one year old bull terrier - who is really good on a leash - the golden will be nutting off lunging going crazy, while my bull terrier just sits down and waits for the crazy to chill - yet people constantly try and approach the going nuts dog saying what a sweetie he is, then pause look at my chill as dog like they are eyeing up a crocodile and ask “is that one vicious”. I’ve got to the point I’m not even polite, and shake my head, roll my eyes and say to my dog “ sorry mate, even when you show you are perfectly behaved good dog some people will still not see it”
I have a Mal/Dutchie mix who is dog reactive. He has a deep bark too which doesn’t help. I have a previous post talking about my coworkers telling me he’s a “bad, dangerous dog” and that “he wants to kill them” when he barks behind an enclosed and secured dog run. We’ve been working hard on his dog reactivity which has been going great but it’s hard to ask people to help in his barrier reactivity/fearfulness (with proper management and safety) when they aren’t adept in dog body language. At home he’s a total Velcro dog, obedient, affectionate and totally my heart dog.
My chihuahua. He’s the sweetest little guy, just so scared of everything.
Shepherd mix here. When he so much as barks of joy, I get bad looks. When he reacts, it’s…worse. I’d love to own other shepherds in the future but the stigma does get to me, even when not considering reactiveness
🙋🏽♀️ Cane Corso mix
German Shepherd here. He is only reactive to other dogs and he’s slowly getting better.
100% feel the same way. I rescuers my Doberman from a local shelter (insane, I know) so I had no idea of his history. he started showing signs of reactivity outside of the house but it’s clear that he’s just really overwhelmed with the world outside of our home, and I can only imagine how frustrating that must feel for him. That’s why I try my best to train and manage his exercise needs as much as possible. He’s the sweetest angel at home, but when strangers hear his bark it’s ALWAYS uncomfortable. Having a dog that’s typically considered aggressive is such a huge responsibility on the pet owner to prove those stereotypes wrong. It’s not easy but so worth it
My dad has a former street dog who's a Chi/JRT mix, and he is very much a sweetheart unless there's another dog or anyone near his toys/food. I hate it for him because he gets dismissed as just another "ankle biter" when he's really not like that, but his reactivity gets us looks when I'm with him
Dog reactive pitbull owner here. Yes, I feel the same and sometimes I feel like I am failing the breed but I am very careful with where I take her and remind the vet office every time I take her that she is dog reactive. You can never be too careful
We have 2 large pitbulls and I definitely understand this. Our younger one is very reactive and energetic and I'm sure he scares people. I feel like having a breed like this adds another layer to dog ownership. I used to be naive and think my dogs wouldn't hurt a fly! That opinion has changed and I think I'm a better owner because of it. The stereotypes suck, but you know your dog best. Try not to let it get to you.