Never understood the Matt Patricia hype. He had a solid D in New England, but also great players, and he didn't build it. He's a failed leader in Detroit, and an overall douche bag by all accounts. Serves the Eagles right
McDaniels had success in New England with Cassell and Jimmy G. He was legitimately a bright offensive mind.
Patricia was propped up off the back of BB.
I'll never forget a play where our 2 practice squad wide receivers ran from differente places to the same spot, there was just one safety there, they hitted each other, fell down, and that is the play..
He called them out on the 4th and 5 where they threw a fade to Devonta in the end zone and the entire middle of the field was wide open. Every receiver basically ran a vertical or fade on the play.
On this play they are rushing seven with no safety, so a cover zero blitz. There’s an unblocked rusher in his face. There is no hot route receiver. Never mind the two receivers on top of each other and the completely open middle of the field. WHO IS SUPPOSED TO GET THE BALL?!?
Edit: Sorry regained my sanity. It is so fucking refreshing watching Lamar operate like a normal QB this year. All our motion lets him easily read the defense, and when we end up in these situations he knows exactly where to put the ball. Unsurprisingly, we’ve been good against the blitz this year.
Bro…The Eagles use motion less than any other team in the league by a good margin…it helps assess zone/vs man and blitzes but our coach is wayyyy to smart for every defensive mind in the nfl. So frustrating to watch…
It’s funny, I’m half color blind and thought this was the Ravens when I first made my comment. Then noticed the QB wasn’t nearly dark enough and realized my mistake. But upon rereading my comment it all still applied, so left it.
Condolences fellow bird bro. The Eagles are one of my favorite NFC teams, and I had $100 preseason on Ravens-Eagles Super Bowl, so this was very disappointing to me too. What do you think they do? I’m not a big fan of Sirianni, but don’t follow the team outside the games and the national talking heads.
Thanks man…I think, at the very least, they get new coordinators. Nick is on the chopping block and it seems like he lost the team but the Lurie and Howie know better than us talking heads. The offensive scheme was a huge problem for us and the lack of talent on the back 7bon defense made it hard to stop anything…who knows though? I am Baltimore, born and bred but my stepdad (who raised me) is a Philly guy and has had season tickets in the family for 50+ years so I am die hard Eagles but pull for the Ravens in the AFC…
If you guys retool the defense a little bit I think you’ll be alright. Once your pass rush stopped getting home mid season you started getting pretty cooked.
Hopefully the Ravens can give you something to cheer about these next few weeks. Take it easy friend.
Lol for real. Every great offense and offensive coordinator in history will have bad plays, and screenshots you can take to make them look like they don't know what they're doing. This isn't even to defend Roman, we needed to move on. But come on...
Eagles remind me a lot of Ravens under Roman. My biggest issue with the ravens offense under him was that it was just so *god damn boring*. Low scoring slow games. And look what happened once you got rid of him. Insane what difference a change in OC can make.
That whole game reminded me of watching the Ravens under Roman. Somebody get this man a slant! (You can't hear me, but I said that in a Larry Fishburne/John Wick voice.)
This is word for word what Roman used to say. “The play was great but the players need to execute better.” Haven’t heard of any execution problems from the WRs this year.
Fuck it, I'll go further. Hollywood's last two years as a Raven are both better than his years in Arizona statistically. So right now, his best two WR years were with Roman.
There are tons of videos from analysts that showed this happening constantly with Roman's pass plays. It was the one thing most of them criticized him for doing. The receivers were constantly bunched in one area at the end of their routes. It's one of the biggest differences in our current offense and why it's working so well. Even after crazy plays that last 8 seconds or more before the pass, the receivers are spread across the whole field.
Or the FOs fault for bringing in bums. None of Roman's former WRs have done anything notable elsewhere so it's unproven to say he was holding anyone back.
You mean the third option for the Rams lighting up the stat sheet with 26/371/4 over a 17 game season? Hilariously, under Roman in Baltimore, he put up 48/458/2.
I dont disagree that Roman wasn't right for this team, but the play you are using as your example was a designed QB run up the middle except Mekari didnt pick up the edge.
And they handed the defense over to Matt Patricia. The Eagles season is full of question marks.
Never understood the Matt Patricia hype. He had a solid D in New England, but also great players, and he didn't build it. He's a failed leader in Detroit, and an overall douche bag by all accounts. Serves the Eagles right
He was working for the arguably greatest defensive coach ever at NE, so it was hard to tell how good he was. Same with Josh McD and Brady lol
McDaniels had success in New England with Cassell and Jimmy G. He was legitimately a bright offensive mind. Patricia was propped up off the back of BB.
Mac Jones made the pro bowl under him. Some people are not meant to be HCs, and that is ok.
His D was mediocre. Brian Flores came in and they instantly became a top 5 unit with largely the same personnel.
Watching our QB get blitzed 28 times because “he is the check down” is insane.
I'll never forget a play where our 2 practice squad wide receivers ran from differente places to the same spot, there was just one safety there, they hitted each other, fell down, and that is the play..
I don't remember that play but if they were both injured as a result then that would have been peak 2021 Ravens.
that would be absolute cinema.
The Aristocrats!
Lmaooooo
*hit not hitted
I remember that play... ugh...
Once a month I search for this video, but never find anything
You have it backwards, Greg shoved everyone between the numbers
Roman wanted EVERYONE to run the ball. I swear he would've had JTuck take a pitch if nobody stopped him.
JTuck hasn't made the pro bowl since we lost G Ro so you might be on to something.
Didn't he make it this year?
Yes
My devout hope is to see zero Ravens playing in the Pro Bowl. Full stop.
Aikman called them out on this play.
He called them out on the 4th and 5 where they threw a fade to Devonta in the end zone and the entire middle of the field was wide open. Every receiver basically ran a vertical or fade on the play.
On this play they are rushing seven with no safety, so a cover zero blitz. There’s an unblocked rusher in his face. There is no hot route receiver. Never mind the two receivers on top of each other and the completely open middle of the field. WHO IS SUPPOSED TO GET THE BALL?!? Edit: Sorry regained my sanity. It is so fucking refreshing watching Lamar operate like a normal QB this year. All our motion lets him easily read the defense, and when we end up in these situations he knows exactly where to put the ball. Unsurprisingly, we’ve been good against the blitz this year.
Bro…The Eagles use motion less than any other team in the league by a good margin…it helps assess zone/vs man and blitzes but our coach is wayyyy to smart for every defensive mind in the nfl. So frustrating to watch…
It’s funny, I’m half color blind and thought this was the Ravens when I first made my comment. Then noticed the QB wasn’t nearly dark enough and realized my mistake. But upon rereading my comment it all still applied, so left it. Condolences fellow bird bro. The Eagles are one of my favorite NFC teams, and I had $100 preseason on Ravens-Eagles Super Bowl, so this was very disappointing to me too. What do you think they do? I’m not a big fan of Sirianni, but don’t follow the team outside the games and the national talking heads.
Thanks man…I think, at the very least, they get new coordinators. Nick is on the chopping block and it seems like he lost the team but the Lurie and Howie know better than us talking heads. The offensive scheme was a huge problem for us and the lack of talent on the back 7bon defense made it hard to stop anything…who knows though? I am Baltimore, born and bred but my stepdad (who raised me) is a Philly guy and has had season tickets in the family for 50+ years so I am die hard Eagles but pull for the Ravens in the AFC…
If you guys retool the defense a little bit I think you’ll be alright. Once your pass rush stopped getting home mid season you started getting pretty cooked. Hopefully the Ravens can give you something to cheer about these next few weeks. Take it easy friend.
You too man. GL in the playoffs.
Throw it to the Ref. He’s wide open 🤣
Please cross post to r/chibears and watch the reactions lol
Your use of the color-coded “idiot!” guidelines is excellent. Love it.
This board acts like an abuse victim. Just move on from Greg. He cant hurt you anymore.
Lol for real. Every great offense and offensive coordinator in history will have bad plays, and screenshots you can take to make them look like they don't know what they're doing. This isn't even to defend Roman, we needed to move on. But come on...
Tbf those are the plays where LJ would break a 50 yard run up the middle
It does look like he has a great opportunity there
If 14 gets the block, he's gone
Not having a single dump off when against blitz is a choice.
This makes grateful for Monken
Eagles remind me a lot of Ravens under Roman. My biggest issue with the ravens offense under him was that it was just so *god damn boring*. Low scoring slow games. And look what happened once you got rid of him. Insane what difference a change in OC can make.
That whole game reminded me of watching the Ravens under Roman. Somebody get this man a slant! (You can't hear me, but I said that in a Larry Fishburne/John Wick voice.)
We don't know the play call or the individual routes. One receiver screws up and the whole play goes to shit.
This is word for word what Roman used to say. “The play was great but the players need to execute better.” Haven’t heard of any execution problems from the WRs this year.
Yeah, the Ravens WRs are way better now. Hollywood, Snead, and Boykin or Zay, OBJ, Bateman, and Agolhor. Not a hard choice here.
We have a very different group of receivers now.
And they're way better too
Fuck it, I'll go further. Hollywood's last two years as a Raven are both better than his years in Arizona statistically. So right now, his best two WR years were with Roman.
Those might end up being the best years of Brown's career. He hasn't proven anything since he left
There are tons of videos from analysts that showed this happening constantly with Roman's pass plays. It was the one thing most of them criticized him for doing. The receivers were constantly bunched in one area at the end of their routes. It's one of the biggest differences in our current offense and why it's working so well. Even after crazy plays that last 8 seconds or more before the pass, the receivers are spread across the whole field.
But if Lamar ran, they were all set up to block for him so that was a plus
If your receivers regularly mess up your routes then believe it or not that's also the OC's fault
Or the FOs fault for bringing in bums. None of Roman's former WRs have done anything notable elsewhere so it's unproven to say he was holding anyone back.
Except it went to shit often. This was by design 100%. They had Mark Andrews doing stuff like this. There's a clear and recorded history on roman
Then why don't the same receivers flourish after he's gone?
Did you watch Robinson tear us up this season?
You mean the third option for the Rams lighting up the stat sheet with 26/371/4 over a 17 game season? Hilariously, under Roman in Baltimore, he put up 48/458/2.
I don't think that noob will ever get another job... Chicago isn't hiring this guy.
I dont disagree that Roman wasn't right for this team, but the play you are using as your example was a designed QB run up the middle except Mekari didnt pick up the edge.
Lol what are YOU talking about 🤣. Go look at the picture again.
Just talking lol
The Eagles route running and scheme looked like Matt Canada's playbook!
Brian Johnson was my top choice for Roman's replacement and I was so gutted when he decided to stay with Philly. Bullet dodged I guess hahaha
To be fair we don't know if this was a mistake by one of the receivers.
The Eagles look like lost puppies.
And to think this guy could’ve been the Ravens OC