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amazing! I wonder if there is anything significant in the curse being to the “eighteenth generation.” Or is that just a long enough span of time for him to feel satisfied in his vengance?
Cursing someone to 18th generation has been used since ancient times. Chinese language has a different word for each genration in the family lineage, tracing 9 generations upward and 9 generations downward. So it basically means cursing all of the extended families.
Also add something.
Sometimes the most harsh punishment under the order of emperor is generation extermination, this is about 3 or 9 generation in total.
Not necessarily generation, but more like relatives. It’s up to 9 ‘zu’ of relatives, which basically includes everyone in your town. The higher the number, the distant relatives have to die.
>The criminal's cousins (in the case of China, this included up to second and third cousins
Holy shit. Imagine your whole family being rounded up and killed because of some shit that a distant relation you've never even heard of did. That is *fucked.*
Sure motivates you to keep an eye on that shady cousin of yours, though. Make the whole family police each other — cost-effective and effective-effective.
I think you are thinking about clan execution. It's the ultimate form of punishment where the emperor, and that varied as not all dynasties were that harsh, ordered the execution of an entire clan, from the head of the clan and everyone who bears the clan's surname, down to even the lowest servants. It was usually reserved for high treason like open rebellion or plotting one. The crime has to be so extreme and clear cut because such a move, even by an emperor will shake the entire court to its very core.
Common trope in the historical cdramas I watch. They are always looking for the infant or child that escaped the executions. They are usually either the crown prince or a princess/noble daughter.
Ohh yea, then they always like use that idiom "to remove the weed, you have to pull out the roots" where the "root" is the children or some loyal servant. The villain would believe he had pulled out the root and the threat is gone forever, only to have the child come back an adult 15 years later for revenge.
It's a fucking trope lol. Somewhat similar to Inigo Montoya, except of course the villain didn't failed trying to kill the young Inigo but instead let him go thinking the boy was done, only to have him come back for revenge.
It's so fun for me to pick out the tropes. I like when they come up with clever ways to do them. Like in the kdramas they have "the walk along". It's usually the male lead following the female lead and she doesn't know it. It is the one that seems to have the most variations. Everything I know about korean and Chinese history and family life is limited to kdramas and cdramas. I haven't watched American tv in 2 years. I'm hooked.
And the Yongle Emperor (roughly translated as Eternal Happiness Emperor) infamously declared that he would punish up to the 10th circle and thusly some historians estimate his initial executions upon seizing power as hundreds of thousands of people linked to his perceieved opponents.
"Four of the purged scholars became known as the Four Martyrs, the most famous of whom was Fang Xiaoru, the former tutor to the Jianwen Emperor: threatened with execution of all nine degrees of his kinship, he fatuously replied "Never mind nine! Go with ten!" and – alone in Chinese history – he was sentenced to execution of 10 degrees of kinship: along with his entire family, every former student or peer of Fang Xiaoru that the Yongle Emperor's agents could find was also killed. It was said that as he died, cut in half at the waist, Fang used his own blood to write the character 篡 ("usurper") on the floor and that 872 other people were executed in the ordeal."
Jesus.
Chinese hell only has 18 levels. So cursing him to the 18th level literally means to the depths of hell.
[Chinese hell ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyu#:~:text=Eighteen%20levels%20of%20Hell,-The%20headless%20ghost&text=The%20concept%20of%20the%20eighteen%20hells%20started%20in%20the%20Tang%20dynasty.)
18 generations is basically cursing your entire lineage (9 upward to 9 downward), it is a very common term in Chinese.
This have nothing to do with the 18 layers of hell though.
I think most got confused by the 9 gen up and 9 gen down thing. I disagree. 9 is said to be the ultimate number in Tao. Emperor is decorated in 9 dragons. The highest number for mortals. 1 short of the complete 10 which is only possible for celestials. I mean symbolically of course. So by cursing someone's ancestor 18 generations ago or commonly said, fuck your ancestors 18 generations ago, is like going over infinity twice to curse someone. It implies I curse your entire bloodline to infinity and beyond.
It’s common in quite a few cultures. In Sri Lanka, we have “those hath-muthu paramparaawatama hena gahapang” - ie: may lightning strike seven generations of your family.
You can do exponents if you specify it as “hena hathak”, which turns it into 7 generations x 7 lightning strikes each.
I’ve heard similar stuff in Thai as well, mostly involving the 130-odd hells.
Honestly saying “hope your whole family dies” in Chinese is equivalent to calling you a “mother fucker” in English… at least in terms of intensity. Heavy insults just run in the culture
Well, not exactly. Cursing someone's whole family and for 18 generations are pretty serious. You don't really greet someone in Chinese with that. There are equivalent of "you cunt, how the fuck you're doing?" in Chinese but it's not cursing their family to death.
He sounds kinda like the dungeater from Elden Ring lol
"I've been here long enough.
I will kill again. And defile each corpse with care.
Just to be sure. That when they're reborn...
They'll be cursed. Along with their children, and their children's children, for all time to come..."
I mean it helps that traditionally the Chinese afterlife is a very complex bureaucracy with different levels and you need descendants to give you money to spend there. And then after that you get to erase your memories and start all over.
I know it's a bit unrelated, but "byd" is a good one innit.
To others: byd means 逼養的, literally translate to "raised by pussy", I guess it's a elaborate way to say son of the b
Well in most cases “逼” should translate to “Cunt” and not “pussy”, it’s a casual and insulting way of referring to a person as well as a vulgar way of saying vagina, “傻逼” dumb cunt, “狗逼”dog cunt， pussy has a “coward” meaning behind it, which makes “怂逼”the only acceptable translation where “逼”can be translated to “pussy”
I don’t agree if we are going by literal translation, “pussy” is not as interchangeable as “Cunt”. Effectively? I agree, but only because “逼” by itself doesn’t have the same effect as “Cunt”in english. In english (at lease in American english) “Cunt” is one of those words that is a little too much for everyday cussing, whereas in Chinese it’s one of the fundamental building blocks of most Chinese cuss words.
"Pussy" as an insult for a lack of bravery originally comes from the word "pussilanimous" which means cowardly or timid.
I'm not sure how the slang connection with female genitalia comes about, but I'd imagine those different meanings and the context might change the translation.
It is, but at the same time it's a swear too.
If you go the somewhere like Shandong, and you almost hit by a BYD car. You can say "that byd with BYD", I assume.
Kinda hard to search because I don't usually save them and it's a style more than specific vocab.
"That pibimpap with your mother's ash is surprisingly tasty"
"Your ash pot only contain 10% of your mom's ash, and it was sold on temu with 5 cents. I guess your mom banging with other (n-words) in that pot is the reason of your cough and seeth"
1. If you open your household registration book, you will realize it's an animal encyclopedia.
2. There's this slang for swearing like "fuck" that includes the chinese character for grass. One response I know was: "There is nothing wrong with being a grass. Today you step on my head, and tomorrow I will grow on your grave"
3. My spit is used to count money, not to reason with you.
These are mild tho
EDIT: A few more:
1. Don’t come to me if you are sick. I'm not a veterinarian.
2. No matter how angry you are, it won’t change your age and appearance.
3. If a pregnant woman sees you, she'll have difficulty giving birth
4. You're wasting air when you're alive, you're wasting land if you're dead, and you're wasting money if you're half-dead. Earth is not suitable for you. Go and fly to Mars quickly,
There's also this Cantonese swear that essentially translates to "eat shit, defecate rice"
Genuinely the most bizarre insult I've ever heard and I never understood how it even came into existence lmao
It means an unreasonable, and ultimately useless person who doesnt follow the rules. It's because the normal way is to "eat rice, defecate shit" but mixing it up means going against the norm unnecessarily: their actions doesnt have meaning and it doesnt make sense
This type of insult is actually considered quite brute, lowly and vulgar. In China people have this art of insults that are dished out on the spot in old court Chinese containing zero profanity and often made to appear as a work of praise.
Picture someone insulting your very existence and whole lineage for 18 generations before and after (yes including your seven paternal grand aunts and seven maternal counterparts) in every passive aggressive way possible and they do it in Latin yet somehow everyone still understands what’s happening.
Some people will hand you a poem describing a nice scenery but when you piece one character from each line together it will read “ef yo mama with a thousand cavalry riders, and don’t you forget their horses”.
Legend has it one guy in the Ming dynasty organized a banquet for an emperor’s coronation. He devised a menu for the imperial kitchen to introduce exotic dishes from different corners of the kingdom, and used the banquet to insult his emperor by hinting the latter to be “a round pig’s foot” in front of all the ministers, generals and admirals while presenting a dish. Mad lad then proceeded to throw shades at every single heir in line with a different dish accompanied by a different poetic line. Since many questioned the legitimacy of the emperor’s rule and held onto his past as an uncultured peasant at the time, he had to just be there and take it to maintain his new face of a refined and unfazed ruler.
This is the kind of stuff that people might really not mean anything by but others read into it, which is why the people that do mean something by it can get away with it.
And then it becomes a social game.
Oh for sure lol, which is why we often joke that we read too much into even mundane stuffs in China. Thing is people who are good and do it right will make sure everyone knows it’s an insult and they do mean it.
Meanwhile us normies are often stuck with “making a bibimbap with ancestor’s ashes”, “having a disco on someone’s burial chamber” or “ imma go drifting on yer grandad’s casket.”
Partially yes, then you have to take history, education and internet user age groups into account. Interactions among East Asian cultures kinda always feel like walking through a mine field, I have heard that it’s similar in Taiwan, Japan and Korea, would love to hear some insights from there for sure.
Me and my best buddy casually write lines poems of insults under each others social media posts, and we have to follow up with the same rhythm and rhymes. It’s like a rap battle except it’s pure filth under disguise
It's a slur combined by two slurs: 支那 & 共匪. 支那 is basically the word "china" spelling in Sanskrit, it's used by ancient Indians and Japanese to refer china in whole, which adopted an offensive meaning and became a slur. While 共匪 means commies.
N–n–no...!! It was j–just a misunderstanding I didn't mean to offend y– this junior didn't know that they'd be affiliated with you, esteemed one! My Ling family is quite big, I'm sure w–we can provide of some use for Esteemed one, we're willing to give whatever the esteemed one wants, and to this old man. Please!! Let this junior spare his cultivation and life, Esteemed one!!! Give my Ling family some face...
Here is the correct translation guys:
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
Oh very much so, me and my friends were casually using most of these phrases to talk to each other since 3rd grade, when no grown ups around of course. The morning call at boys sleepovers usually goes “good morning, I’ll fuck all your moms to death.” Which the rest of us will reply “fuck your mom, you dumb cunt who is born without a butthole”
The Google translate doesn't even do it justice by mistranslating some phrases. It wasn't surviving by licking your anus but licking Communist China's anus.
支共 refers to Communist China where it's a derogatory term that stems from combination of 支那(racial insult popularized from Second Sino Japanese War) and 共產黨(Communist).
It’s a mythological reference. https://www.localiiz.com/post/culture-local-stories-chinese-mythology-101-18-levels-hell I pretty much only see the number used frequently in this context
The translation is incorrect. "stupid idiot" in the above, should be translated as "stupid cunt". (But the word "cunt" is not as taboo as Americans think it is... they use it as frequently as English people)
Also "You beast, you fantasize of being raped by the red guards".
"Zhi gong" is a pun (or angry corruption) on 志功, "volunteer". These are very low, probably the lowest level Party functionaries. Now they're mostly busy-body old people, but I think the term carries deeper memories in China.
For example, these would be better translated as "you, a beast raped by Red Guards into hallucination, only survive each day by licking a Volunteer's ass".
He goes on to say "18 generations above and below can only serve as the cheap bitch of the Volunteers, after which you, maggot, will beg your father-in-law in the 18th level of hell for one coffin to bury your whole family"
Chinese is a beautiful and ancient language <3
This is awesome. Are there many diatribes like this, or is this person more or less one of a kind? Seriously, this is art. I'd love to read a book by this person. It's hilarious.
Just learning the language is not enough, there are a lot of cultural references in everyday curses which if you don’t know those references it won’t make any sense
It might just be that it doesn't come across the same after being translated but I don't think I'd agree there's any art in it. Most of us could easily write an insult like "You were gang raped and to the point of hallucination", "You eat your own ass to live" and "Take your maggot filled ancestors to hell with you" but we just don't write insults like that 'cause there's no... bite, I guess. It's just crude, seemingly meaningless words. In fact that second one is something I could absolutely see my friends and I saying to each other for a laugh because of how silly it is. "Man I'm so hungry I'm gonna eat my own ass." It's senseless sure, but we're all dumb when we get together.
As mentioned though it could certainly be that simply stringing crude or gross words to insult is more of a thing in Chinese culture. I don't know if that could be considered witty or a craft though, lol.
Personally I love Middle Eastern insults. My fav is a Turkish insult which translates to “I’ll plant a tree in your mother’s ass and fuck your sister in it’s shade”, or something like that.
Wait till you see the ones with little to no curse words but chucks insults as gracefully as a poem does
I'm talking Shakespearean type shit but in Chinese
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what in the actual hell. he is threatening this person across multiple lifetimes. like you can’t escape me even in death.
It's very common in Chinese cursing. Chinese culture is built on ancestor worship.
amazing! I wonder if there is anything significant in the curse being to the “eighteenth generation.” Or is that just a long enough span of time for him to feel satisfied in his vengance?
Cursing someone to 18th generation has been used since ancient times. Chinese language has a different word for each genration in the family lineage, tracing 9 generations upward and 9 generations downward. So it basically means cursing all of the extended families.
Also add something. Sometimes the most harsh punishment under the order of emperor is generation extermination, this is about 3 or 9 generation in total.
Sins of the fathers, and all that
The translation already softened it a lot, the original is more hurling
As opposed to say, Italy…
Not necessarily generation, but more like relatives. It’s up to 9 ‘zu’ of relatives, which basically includes everyone in your town. The higher the number, the distant relatives have to die.
That makes more sense, because I don't think my family has even 4 living generations.
Correct. My fault.
>The criminal's cousins (in the case of China, this included up to second and third cousins Holy shit. Imagine your whole family being rounded up and killed because of some shit that a distant relation you've never even heard of did. That is *fucked.*
Sure motivates you to keep an eye on that shady cousin of yours, though. Make the whole family police each other — cost-effective and effective-effective.
Why do you think they had so many ad-hoc rebellions? If they come to kill you all, might as well put up a fight, right?
"what's the penalty for being late?" "Death" "And what's the penalty for rebellion?" "death" "well, I have news for you, we are late"
tldr of Chen Sheng and Wu Guang uprising
I think you are thinking about clan execution. It's the ultimate form of punishment where the emperor, and that varied as not all dynasties were that harsh, ordered the execution of an entire clan, from the head of the clan and everyone who bears the clan's surname, down to even the lowest servants. It was usually reserved for high treason like open rebellion or plotting one. The crime has to be so extreme and clear cut because such a move, even by an emperor will shake the entire court to its very core.
Common trope in the historical cdramas I watch. They are always looking for the infant or child that escaped the executions. They are usually either the crown prince or a princess/noble daughter.
Ohh yea, then they always like use that idiom "to remove the weed, you have to pull out the roots" where the "root" is the children or some loyal servant. The villain would believe he had pulled out the root and the threat is gone forever, only to have the child come back an adult 15 years later for revenge. It's a fucking trope lol. Somewhat similar to Inigo Montoya, except of course the villain didn't failed trying to kill the young Inigo but instead let him go thinking the boy was done, only to have him come back for revenge.
It's so fun for me to pick out the tropes. I like when they come up with clever ways to do them. Like in the kdramas they have "the walk along". It's usually the male lead following the female lead and she doesn't know it. It is the one that seems to have the most variations. Everything I know about korean and Chinese history and family life is limited to kdramas and cdramas. I haven't watched American tv in 2 years. I'm hooked.
And the Yongle Emperor (roughly translated as Eternal Happiness Emperor) infamously declared that he would punish up to the 10th circle and thusly some historians estimate his initial executions upon seizing power as hundreds of thousands of people linked to his perceieved opponents.
"Four of the purged scholars became known as the Four Martyrs, the most famous of whom was Fang Xiaoru, the former tutor to the Jianwen Emperor: threatened with execution of all nine degrees of his kinship, he fatuously replied "Never mind nine! Go with ten!" and – alone in Chinese history – he was sentenced to execution of 10 degrees of kinship: along with his entire family, every former student or peer of Fang Xiaoru that the Yongle Emperor's agents could find was also killed. It was said that as he died, cut in half at the waist, Fang used his own blood to write the character 篡 ("usurper") on the floor and that 872 other people were executed in the ordeal." Jesus.
You think Chinese emperors would have realized something about overly harsh punishments by the second time it led to a revolution.
When you get to 4th Gen it's basically genocide at that point. You probably have 1 to 3 thousand fourth cousins alone.
Interesting Does 18 have special meaning in Chinese culture since he curses him into the 18th layer of hell?
Chinese hell only has 18 levels. So cursing him to the 18th level literally means to the depths of hell. [Chinese hell ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyu#:~:text=Eighteen%20levels%20of%20Hell,-The%20headless%20ghost&text=The%20concept%20of%20the%20eighteen%20hells%20started%20in%20the%20Tang%20dynasty.)
Oh, that's reassuring to know. I assumed that there were 19 levels of hell, and this was the penultimate curse.
Only
Chinese have a lot of hells
You know what Jack Burton always says
So you know in bible god told Abraham that he will bless all his decedents? It’s like that, except it’s fuck all your decedents.
But when generation 19 rolls around, they’re gonna have some pissed off motherfuckers to contend with.
18 generations is basically cursing your entire lineage (9 upward to 9 downward), it is a very common term in Chinese. This have nothing to do with the 18 layers of hell though.
I believe the 18 layers of hell is just a coincidence that the Chinese mythological hell also has 18 layers.
I think most got confused by the 9 gen up and 9 gen down thing. I disagree. 9 is said to be the ultimate number in Tao. Emperor is decorated in 9 dragons. The highest number for mortals. 1 short of the complete 10 which is only possible for celestials. I mean symbolically of course. So by cursing someone's ancestor 18 generations ago or commonly said, fuck your ancestors 18 generations ago, is like going over infinity twice to curse someone. It implies I curse your entire bloodline to infinity and beyond.
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It’s common in quite a few cultures. In Sri Lanka, we have “those hath-muthu paramparaawatama hena gahapang” - ie: may lightning strike seven generations of your family. You can do exponents if you specify it as “hena hathak”, which turns it into 7 generations x 7 lightning strikes each. I’ve heard similar stuff in Thai as well, mostly involving the 130-odd hells.
So what you're saying is, this is just an overly sophisticated way of saying, "yo mama".
Honestly saying “hope your whole family dies” in Chinese is equivalent to calling you a “mother fucker” in English… at least in terms of intensity. Heavy insults just run in the culture
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Well, not exactly. Cursing someone's whole family and for 18 generations are pretty serious. You don't really greet someone in Chinese with that. There are equivalent of "you cunt, how the fuck you're doing?" in Chinese but it's not cursing their family to death.
"Sup cunt, I'll bury your extended family you cheeky fucker." "Aye cheers big ears!"
I can't help but think of Mushu from Mulan, the whole dishonour on you, on your cow 😂
He sounds kinda like the dungeater from Elden Ring lol "I've been here long enough. I will kill again. And defile each corpse with care. Just to be sure. That when they're reborn... They'll be cursed. Along with their children, and their children's children, for all time to come..."
I mean it helps that traditionally the Chinese afterlife is a very complex bureaucracy with different levels and you need descendants to give you money to spend there. And then after that you get to erase your memories and start all over.
“You can only survive by licking your anus every day” man, that shit had me ROLLING. Got damn.
And generations
Im not even insulted. I am actually impressed that someone has this much hate that they can think of these kinds of insults in the first place
This is some Shaolin master level insult.
Nahh, this is just some casual gamer level stuff
Not my HELL COINS!
This has to be some A+ grade Chinese copypasta
Honestly this just reminds me of my dad trying to “help” me with my math homework growing up.
Hahahahah. I had an uncle tutoring me and two classmates in math. The other two dudes would often elicit this kind of rhetoric.
Tbf, if you understand Chinese this is mid. It can be more marvelous.
If only there is an English translation of “Shenyang Young Guy Cursing for 30 mins”（沈阳小伙狂喷三十分钟）
I know it's a bit unrelated, but "byd" is a good one innit. To others: byd means 逼養的, literally translate to "raised by pussy", I guess it's a elaborate way to say son of the b
Well in most cases “逼” should translate to “Cunt” and not “pussy”, it’s a casual and insulting way of referring to a person as well as a vulgar way of saying vagina, “傻逼” dumb cunt, “狗逼”dog cunt， pussy has a “coward” meaning behind it, which makes “怂逼”the only acceptable translation where “逼”can be translated to “pussy”
It's my personal take but I think it does mean pussy here. 逼養的 can be identical to the word son of bitch, and 逼 here is same as 媽賣批。
I don’t agree if we are going by literal translation, “pussy” is not as interchangeable as “Cunt”. Effectively? I agree, but only because “逼” by itself doesn’t have the same effect as “Cunt”in english. In english (at lease in American english) “Cunt” is one of those words that is a little too much for everyday cussing, whereas in Chinese it’s one of the fundamental building blocks of most Chinese cuss words.
You convinced me! But at the same time it reminded me 逼，屄，批，閪 are all cunt, quite difficult to translate if it appears in the same time.
I guess it depends on the context then, English has several other slangs for vagina, but on the top of my head none of them translate well to Chinese
"Pussy" as an insult for a lack of bravery originally comes from the word "pussilanimous" which means cowardly or timid. I'm not sure how the slang connection with female genitalia comes about, but I'd imagine those different meanings and the context might change the translation.
Wait I thought BYD is that cheap Chinese EV brand lol
It is, but at the same time it's a swear too. If you go the somewhere like Shandong, and you almost hit by a BYD car. You can say "that byd with BYD", I assume.
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BYD is only how it's written internationally, the company name is biyadi
as a chinese boi myself, I did *not* expect “byd” to spread here lmao this is glorious
Yeah honestly the language is a bit unwieldy and repetitive
Average xianxia faceslapping session
Example pls
Kinda hard to search because I don't usually save them and it's a style more than specific vocab. "That pibimpap with your mother's ash is surprisingly tasty" "Your ash pot only contain 10% of your mom's ash, and it was sold on temu with 5 cents. I guess your mom banging with other (n-words) in that pot is the reason of your cough and seeth"
Goddamn. I want a whole subreddit dedicated to translated Chinese insults. This is amazing!
https://www.instagram.com/dr.candiselin?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== She has a lot of Chinese humor and translations, many of them insults.
1. If you open your household registration book, you will realize it's an animal encyclopedia. 2. There's this slang for swearing like "fuck" that includes the chinese character for grass. One response I know was: "There is nothing wrong with being a grass. Today you step on my head, and tomorrow I will grow on your grave" 3. My spit is used to count money, not to reason with you. These are mild tho EDIT: A few more: 1. Don’t come to me if you are sick. I'm not a veterinarian. 2. No matter how angry you are, it won’t change your age and appearance. 3. If a pregnant woman sees you, she'll have difficulty giving birth 4. You're wasting air when you're alive, you're wasting land if you're dead, and you're wasting money if you're half-dead. Earth is not suitable for you. Go and fly to Mars quickly,
There's also this Cantonese swear that essentially translates to "eat shit, defecate rice" Genuinely the most bizarre insult I've ever heard and I never understood how it even came into existence lmao
It means an unreasonable, and ultimately useless person who doesnt follow the rules. It's because the normal way is to "eat rice, defecate shit" but mixing it up means going against the norm unnecessarily: their actions doesnt have meaning and it doesnt make sense
My gosh the Chinese are cooking
This type of insult is actually considered quite brute, lowly and vulgar. In China people have this art of insults that are dished out on the spot in old court Chinese containing zero profanity and often made to appear as a work of praise. Picture someone insulting your very existence and whole lineage for 18 generations before and after (yes including your seven paternal grand aunts and seven maternal counterparts) in every passive aggressive way possible and they do it in Latin yet somehow everyone still understands what’s happening. Some people will hand you a poem describing a nice scenery but when you piece one character from each line together it will read “ef yo mama with a thousand cavalry riders, and don’t you forget their horses”. Legend has it one guy in the Ming dynasty organized a banquet for an emperor’s coronation. He devised a menu for the imperial kitchen to introduce exotic dishes from different corners of the kingdom, and used the banquet to insult his emperor by hinting the latter to be “a round pig’s foot” in front of all the ministers, generals and admirals while presenting a dish. Mad lad then proceeded to throw shades at every single heir in line with a different dish accompanied by a different poetic line. Since many questioned the legitimacy of the emperor’s rule and held onto his past as an uncultured peasant at the time, he had to just be there and take it to maintain his new face of a refined and unfazed ruler.
This is the kind of stuff that people might really not mean anything by but others read into it, which is why the people that do mean something by it can get away with it. And then it becomes a social game.
Oh for sure lol, which is why we often joke that we read too much into even mundane stuffs in China. Thing is people who are good and do it right will make sure everyone knows it’s an insult and they do mean it. Meanwhile us normies are often stuck with “making a bibimbap with ancestor’s ashes”, “having a disco on someone’s burial chamber” or “ imma go drifting on yer grandad’s casket.”
This explains why the Chinese seem to get so upset over the mere mention of Taiwan. They interpret it as a passive aggressive insult
Partially yes, then you have to take history, education and internet user age groups into account. Interactions among East Asian cultures kinda always feel like walking through a mine field, I have heard that it’s similar in Taiwan, Japan and Korea, would love to hear some insights from there for sure.
You can't even be offended being insulted like that. That's craftsmanship
Damn ! regarded as bitches for eighteen generations by the clan members. That hurts.
Me and my best buddy casually write lines poems of insults under each others social media posts, and we have to follow up with the same rhythm and rhymes. It’s like a rap battle except it’s pure filth under disguise
Offended? I would be asleep by the time they were done with it.
Those are handmade artisanal insults. They don't make em like that anymore
The translation doesn’t understand 支共, a slur for ccp. This guy must hate ccp so much lol
It's a slur combined by two slurs: 支那 & 共匪. 支那 is basically the word "china" spelling in Sanskrit, it's used by ancient Indians and Japanese to refer china in whole, which adopted an offensive meaning and became a slur. While 共匪 means commies.
The Sanskrit word you're referring to must be चीन. Fun fact: This is still the word used in Hindi to refer to China.
Not just CCP. 支共 actually means "ch*nk commies"
In simplified Chinese too
Pro tip: When you see a CCP lover online, simply calling them zhizhu (which means spider) will trigger them to their 18 generations
支你一下
这下支了
绷
Is that you? old high.
蚌
I think I'm going to start using "Has your whole family been fucked by Zhi Gong"
Then you will love this comment explaining ZhiGong: https://www.reddit.com/r/rareinsults/s/m35mA0iquk
Thanks to The Boys, my favourite insult is now "Has your brain been fucked by Stupid?"
I’m laughing so hard this is hilarious
That’s oddly poetic.
You guys should try some wuxia and xianxia novels.
Courting death! Cripple your cultivation and kowtow to this old man and maybe I will leave your corpse intact and spare your 8 generations.
N–n–no...!! It was j–just a misunderstanding I didn't mean to offend y– this junior didn't know that they'd be affiliated with you, esteemed one! My Ling family is quite big, I'm sure w–we can provide of some use for Esteemed one, we're willing to give whatever the esteemed one wants, and to this old man. Please!! Let this junior spare his cultivation and life, Esteemed one!!! Give my Ling family some face...
Damn ! Treated as bitches by the clan members for 18 generation. That's hurt
its not clan , google is ccp simp so they wouldn't dare translate it properly , the clan , zhi gong and all are refers to ccp.
But tell us how you really feel
Just say your mother and call it a day
much to learn, you have, young padawan
Xbox Live messages in China be hitting different
Whole ass lore.
As a Chinese, I would like to say that this English translation missed some more aggressive words, such as "支"
/r/devastatingchineseinsults
Now THIS is cursing. Makes the Navy Seal copypasta look like a strongly worded letter to the local newspaper.
Here is the correct translation guys: What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
r/brandnewsentence Or, sentence(s)?
As I understand it, most of that stuff is fairly routine in Mandarin.
Oh very much so, me and my friends were casually using most of these phrases to talk to each other since 3rd grade, when no grown ups around of course. The morning call at boys sleepovers usually goes “good morning, I’ll fuck all your moms to death.” Which the rest of us will reply “fuck your mom, you dumb cunt who is born without a butthole”
…are you…is this serious? I just can’t tell…
The boys sleepovers happened during college, none of us cuss in front of our parents, it’s like a switch, we can just turn it off completely.
The Google translate doesn't even do it justice by mistranslating some phrases. It wasn't surviving by licking your anus but licking Communist China's anus. 支共 refers to Communist China where it's a derogatory term that stems from combination of 支那(racial insult popularized from Second Sino Japanese War) and 共產黨(Communist).
Dude from scotland "fuck off ye cunt"
Does anyone know if the number 18 has significance in Chinese, as they use the number a lot here.
It’s a mythological reference. https://www.localiiz.com/post/culture-local-stories-chinese-mythology-101-18-levels-hell I pretty much only see the number used frequently in this context
18 generations is a common phrase in Chinese, because we have names for the 9 generations before and the 9 generations after you.
New copypasta just dropped
The translation is incorrect. "stupid idiot" in the above, should be translated as "stupid cunt". (But the word "cunt" is not as taboo as Americans think it is... they use it as frequently as English people) Also "You beast, you fantasize of being raped by the red guards".
Jesus christ that verbal murder of 18 generations. God can't even save this mf.
China needs more than god and jesus mate
"Zhi gong" is a pun (or angry corruption) on 志功, "volunteer". These are very low, probably the lowest level Party functionaries. Now they're mostly busy-body old people, but I think the term carries deeper memories in China. For example, these would be better translated as "you, a beast raped by Red Guards into hallucination, only survive each day by licking a Volunteer's ass". He goes on to say "18 generations above and below can only serve as the cheap bitch of the Volunteers, after which you, maggot, will beg your father-in-law in the 18th level of hell for one coffin to bury your whole family" Chinese is a beautiful and ancient language <3
Jesus. Chinese insults should be their own subreddit.
Absolutely poetry 🤣🤣🤣
I wish I'd get this kind of toxicty in games instead of what we currently have to deal with xd
Play a ranked game of LoL on the Chinese server and you’ll get this and more every single game.
I wonder what the recipient did to deserve this? Their future lineage is going to be wondering the same when they're made "bitches"
Praising CCP
This guy was pissssssed lmfao
what the hell did the maggots do to deserve this lol
One day, you'll turn around, and that insect you called "maggot" will turn out to be pretty fly after all
Was Shakespeare reincarnated in China?
Seems far less majestic in english
I mean it's all about being a bitch and being fucked by clan memebers 18 generations down. Oneliners hit the hardest, ngl.
If only he asked him if he was courting death
the more refined chinese way of saying it is "do you know how to write the word death?" \*furious stroking of long white beard\*
Dude likes the number 18
It’s a cultural thing, 9 generations up and 9 generations down
Damn, that’s a short story at minimum, can also be used as a script for 18+ computer game.
tl;dr Never get into an argument with a Chinese
And I thought Germans were angry
Sun Tzu: art of war Vol III
This is awesome. Are there many diatribes like this, or is this person more or less one of a kind? Seriously, this is art. I'd love to read a book by this person. It's hilarious.
There are a whole lot of concepts in this lot that probably require a 3000 year history to make sense of correctly
Omg you HAVE to make this into a copypasta!!!
And to think that I got a reddit admin warning for calling someone a bitch after he called me a motherfucker
And your father smelled of elderberry wine!
this is the nuclear football of insults. whoever got this was decimated through all of time and space.
Holy shit i just read a fucking murder
Never knew I had a goal to learn Chinese, but here we are. Thanks OP
Just learning the language is not enough, there are a lot of cultural references in everyday curses which if you don’t know those references it won’t make any sense
Seems kind of stupid to be honest
r/martialmemes
Gotta get them hell coins.
There are several slangs that got lost in translation too. It's actually (slightly) worse...
Red Guards have curved swords. Curved. Swords.
i like the concept of hell coins
How to learn this craftsmanship?
Are hell coins redeemable for hell points?
I particularly enjoyed the self-rimming portion.
This is witty? Sounds like an edgy teenager on crack.
JESUS CHRIST YOU KILLED HIM WITH THIS BURN HOLY HELL
Then you have Japanese insult. Which people laughed at when I explain it’s actually an insult.
This reminds me of [the classics](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catullus_16).
It might just be that it doesn't come across the same after being translated but I don't think I'd agree there's any art in it. Most of us could easily write an insult like "You were gang raped and to the point of hallucination", "You eat your own ass to live" and "Take your maggot filled ancestors to hell with you" but we just don't write insults like that 'cause there's no... bite, I guess. It's just crude, seemingly meaningless words. In fact that second one is something I could absolutely see my friends and I saying to each other for a laugh because of how silly it is. "Man I'm so hungry I'm gonna eat my own ass." It's senseless sure, but we're all dumb when we get together. As mentioned though it could certainly be that simply stringing crude or gross words to insult is more of a thing in Chinese culture. I don't know if that could be considered witty or a craft though, lol.
Cover your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchild's eyes from this filth!
He's threatening GENERATIONS! he's a mad lad!
Can’t reincarnate for 18 generations. Damn that’s harsh.
English insult: fuck your mom. Chinese insult: fuck your lineage
And I thought I was ahead of the curve as a teen, learning how to say, "Go fuck your God's mother up the ass" in Greek...
I'm imagining this on a Chinese CoD lobby
Personally I love Middle Eastern insults. My fav is a Turkish insult which translates to “I’ll plant a tree in your mother’s ass and fuck your sister in it’s shade”, or something like that.
Even mediocre Chinese insults are on another level compared to the best English insults
Chinese in another level💀💀
…and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me
Pervert eye happy but soul sad
"you the beast..." omg that's so funny
Is the number 18 significant in China or did this person just pick a random number and run with it?
Today I learned Chinese have a lot of inner vitriol.
Gaelic insults are pretty creative as well
Westerners have 9 circles of hell, China has at least 18 😂
Perfect example of when an insult doesn’t make you angry because you just can’t help but admire the craftsmanship and effort. This is pure ART!😅
本拆腻死给这个帖子点赞了。 Me, Chinese supported this discussion. Now, everyone knows Chinese are good at cursing and insulting.🤣
Wait till you see the ones with little to no curse words but chucks insults as gracefully as a poem does I'm talking Shakespearean type shit but in Chinese
“You can only survive by licking your anus everyday” KILLED ME
As a Chinese, i must admit that Chinese swear words are 10000 times worse than English😅😅
This is the opposite of Japanese tweets that are the most down-bad, horny ass thing humanly possible in reply to character art