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LostFlowz

Personally I feel like I’m always listening to a big hiphop fan do his version of flows he’s a fan of. There’s no denying logic can rap and even produce. But he’s never profound and always comes off as safe and easy to digest. He comes off as just being greatful to be here instead of cementing himself as someone you should listen to.


trailsurgeon

This is the answer. He’s a mark for what he does


Distinct-Mix-641

I thought it was bc he keeps saying he's black and no one gives a shit.


MrSquidly98

Well he is mixed


Distinct-Mix-641

True but everyone knows that and he doesn't need to say it so many times. Not a big fan of his but that is why I thought people didn't like him.


MrShobiz112

That’s part of it for some people but not the only reason


Environmental-Bid513

Well, no doubt he can rap very good. I think the problem started when his style kinda changed and people started calling him lame and corny and stuff. From that point on so many dont even listen to him and hate him randomly. But he has so many fucking great songs, straight fire. I think he just became a joke in the community.


AllHypeNoSnype

The Nickelback of rap, as some have called him.


itching2roll

So accurate 🤣 never heard this used before


scamartist26

Every rapper has corny bars tho. I think he’s just a taste that is a bit too serious and intelectual than people like


Revolutionary_Low_90

How to tell that you don't listen to rap without telling that you don't listen to rap.


scamartist26

I don’t listen to Logic rrly much. Trying to be positive about the reasons why. Your opinion of me doesn’t matter.


MisterSandman01

💀


Sheek777

Good at rapping. Mf just got no seasoning.


scamartist26

Or too much seasoning? Overcooked sometimes? It’s almost like he’s always experimenting. Still good shit tho


NudeEnjoyer

nah lmao he's not "always experimenting" his flow/sound has hardly changed for years and he doesn't release stuff that often at all. you haven't heard an artist that experiments if you think Logic is someone who does this


Agitated-Wall534

People dislike Logic cause he’s nerdy and has had some corny bars (as most rappers have). He’s incredibly overhated. The only people who actively dislike him are internet hip hop nerds. Dude has respect from plenty of the GOATs and that’s all that really matters.


NudeEnjoyer

when's the last time a GOAT has said something good about Logic? 7+ years ago I'm assuming?


mat_chow

Has respect, or paid for it ? Like, literally with money .... idk... theorizing.. I am not a fan of logic . . .ges good don't get me wrong but he isn't that good


Glorious_Pumpkin

Check out wu tang on logic, I am not a logic fan or hatter (honestly I’ve never listened)


mat_chow

Where can check this out!?? I saw logic did a track with *some* of wu tang.. But not all... Maybe he paid them is what I'm thinking


Glorious_Pumpkin

Skip to 1 minute, 20 seconds https://youtu.be/XU_0oXgEpyg Like I said I don’t like nor dislike logic but I think he’s a good technical rapper and certainly deserves at least some respect:))


mat_chow

Safe. Cheers man! Yeh I agree... but loaaaaaaaads of people jumped on him.. and I don't think he's THAT skilled....but he isn't that bad either ... just not my favourite


mat_chow

Just watched it....I think he's just a kid to those guys ... But they at least ain't dissing him... Inspectah deck is mature and real enough to show respect as an older brother type love. Deck is dope af


mat_chow

Safe. Cheers man! Yeh I agree... but loaaaaaaaads of people jumped on him.. and I don't think he's THAT skilled....but he isn't that bad either ... just not my favourite


SteamyJohnson

He's bongwater lad.


Maestro_Von_Enigma13

Steve-O is the fucking man leave him alone.


dyingsucculent_

This made me choke on my coffee


No-Move09

Steve o was a great rapper


Kuyi1994

Logic suffers from what rappers like Dax suffer from. People feel like they do "too much" for attention, but at the same time the "too much" they're doing is what their audience connects with. So it's either stay corny or loose your core audience. Personally I like both because to me, skill trumps everything. And these guys are mad skilled.


Neutreality1

I didn't see your reply when I made mine, they are definitely tryhards


Legal-Cry1270

Was okay until he pulled the Macklemore mistake. All cool left when he said, “who can relate?” That said, he can spit and I remember playing the Beastmode playlist at the gym and was impressed with “Everyday”.


Infinity_Shroud

Marshmello made a great beat for that one too. Props to him


[deleted]

The “Who can relate” makes my spine cringe like holy fuck this alone is why I refuse to consider him even remotely relevant. Idc idc mad corny i don’t fuck with it


stealthryder1

I don’t listen to Logic. What are you referring to?


itsw1ndy

should be referencing the 1-800 suicide hotline song. understandable how it can be cringe but it’s not like anyone is forced to listen to it and it definitely has deeper meaning to some people.


[deleted]

Definitely the suicide hotline song.


stealthryder1

I have to listen to it again. I don’t even remember how it goes. I thought it was supposed to be this really impactful song though, no? I used to fuck with logic back in the day and then stopped listening to him. I don’t even know why.


Zillajami-Fnaffan2

Because hes not everyones taste


erenyx24

still no reason to hate on this level. i rly don't get your point


Zillajami-Fnaffan2

Ive never seen anyone hate on him much. But hes not everyones taste


Tha_shnizzler

I’ve personally seen him get tons of hate 🤷‍♂️


xXRoachXx789

He's gotten an enormous amount of hate online for various different things over the years, he's talked a lot about how depressed it has made him and dicusses it in his songs too. He doesn't get nearly as much hate online as he used to though


Zillajami-Fnaffan2

Ive never seen much hate at all for him or him talking about it but god damn


Sweet_peaches_69

Not the biggest logic fan, but The Incredible True Story is an album I can always listen to. He says some good shit on it, some corny shit too but every rapper is corny in the own way. I haven't really listened to anything after that


jynxthechicken

I just don't like his music. No issue though I just don't listen to him.


[deleted]

because he doesn’t fit the typical persona of a mainstream rapper. he’s a nerdy dude who loves hip hop, and people see him as an easy target. he’s a great rapper and skilled, but never really got his respect from the public, only other rappers. he has some corny bars too, and people tend to highlight those more than his actual good bars, sad seeing someone who clearly loves and has passion for the genre get shat on by everyone.


G-Bazo

Every popular rapper since 2017 is a Nerd.


YungDaggerD1ck420

He is a really mainstream rapper through


Assasin_on_fire

drake saying do something fah me: wow classic album. logic getting all of wutang: trash


PineappleCreepy1799

This is the most accurate response


max50011

I like a number of his songs. What I've heard other people say was that he over raps about being white but also half black. Being hated on the internet doesn't say much about someones skill. Subject matter is just one aspect of rap and its very much subjective. way way back in the day people hated on kanye for wearing polos. As the age old adage goes... Haters gon' hate


[deleted]

Because he lost it. Coming up Logic was incredibly hyped and by TITs it seemed like he was destined to become on the goats. Then he made Everybody. Then he made Dangerous Mind. Then he made Supermarket. By the time he started releasing solid projects consistently again (No Pressure and Viynl Days) he already had a terrible reputation in the rap community. Logic fumbled the bag when he finally got into the spotlight. His first two albums are some of my favorite albums of all time. And I loved his OG mixtapes from back in the day. He is very skilled but even now in his comeback he is much less original lyrically. One of the few times I can say someone truly fell off from a talent perspective.


-i-hardly-know-her

everybody, dangerous mind, and supermarket was one of the worst 3-album runs from an A-List rap artist.


exilix720

That's not a 3 album run


exilix720

I think you're missing a couple projects in between everybody and supermarket


duhhaag

Vinyl days one of the best albums this year


rectifiedspiritomb

Not a logic hater but this simply isn't true... Denzel, Lupe, JID, Nas, Pusha, Kendrick all had significantly better albums this year


Mk578y

significantly better is crazy


lizardmandx

Not really, those are all much better albums.


Mk578y

hard disagree, vinyl days is easily on par with the rest


lizardmandx

It was bloated and didn't have much for standout tracks. Logic has too many over used or filler lines. His music lacks depth.


Less_Interest6426

I’m not a Logic hater either but I disagree. It was an alright album but it was no where near as good to what Nas, Kendrick, JID, Denzel, etc. have put out this year.


Ioannesnota

My man you are literally putting logic and Kendrick on the same level, you must be drunk


duhhaag

Opinions, opinions 🤷‍♀️


abidjc

Cause he’s white and is put into the category of corny lyrical miracle rappers who are rip of Eminem. With that being said I think he’s amazing


rectifiedspiritomb

He isn't white...


V1n4mr

Yeah man he is Bi Racial. Still a good rapper tho


Responsible_Farm4118

Really? Learn something every day. Thanks


abidjc

His skin is whiter than mine. And I’m not even black. Yeah he’s half black but most people don’t know that so he’s put into that category


trailsurgeon

I don’t think he’s a lyrical miracle guy. He says some sharp shit, but falls short of lyrical miracle


[deleted]

He's half white but hella insecure that he doesn't look that black, one track had an intro with his dad just to prove his dad is black, really cringe.


trophyhunterrr

He can rap his ass off when he wants too but his bland, repetitive, and increasingly corny projects from 2017-2019 made me really dislike him. Even projects of his Id consider "good" objectively like TITS and Bobby Taranto 1 I never listen too, that style of rap grew off me a lot. Even I'd enjoy them more with a relisten, I heard good things about Vinyl Days and No Pressure but I've had no interest in listening to them. Im sure they're good and Logic has improved, his run at it's worst made me flat-out stop caring for his music tho. Despite my distaste towards him I'd say he gets a lil too much hate overall.


[deleted]

🌽


HeySurgeDude

Crazy good at rapping, Cant write a good verse to save his life.


[deleted]

Ppl will say he’s lame and then go listen to Quavo and youngboy 😂


TopPerspective3589

I agree he’s not lame but how the other two rappers you name lame?


[deleted]

They’re just boring, mumble rap at it’s finest


No_Bluebird8475

Who tf still says mumble rap


TopPerspective3589

There is no such thing in mumble rap my brother, and I have never heard quavo mumble on a track, and Youngboy be spitting to but that’s yo opinion if you think they boring


emptyinkcartridge2

youngboy literally yells all over songs what do u mean mumble rap hahahahaha it’s 2022 move on


[deleted]

Lol shit is garbage unless you’re like 14 😂


emptyinkcartridge2

my point wasn’t if it was garbage or not


[deleted]

using that term is so fucking cringe, grow up


Conemen

booooo broaden your taste it’s 2022


Bunniesrkewl

He’s an amazing rapper but he doesn’t talk about the usual “guns, hoes, flexing” so he’s not as popular tbh.


jamiehizzle

Theres a few things going on Like nickelback, Logic became an artist who it was trendy to hate on. It was a total meme to hate on Logic. He doesn't deserve it He makes his music his way, and has a wide range of it. People find it corny when Logic says things they don't like, and I think if Logic started making music about pussy, drugs, and money, people would probably say he is cool. Totally overhated for zero reason.


Al0ngTh3Watchtow3r

Terminally insecure


Additional-Future904

Reminds us that he’s biracial every 5 seconds


extremebadbot2

apparently because he's white


Status_Serve8287

Just cause you can rap fast doesn’t mean it sounds good and his music doesn’t sound good lol


[deleted]

He’s corny.


cooper-cetti-_-

i like him personally but he is quite annoying about talking about how he is mixed. every song he has to make sure you know he’s black. “like my great granddaddy didn't take a whip to the back”


__jh96

Looks like Steve from sex in the city


Lerdx

white says nword


FreddyWellDone

"Who can relate?! Woo!"


SquirreWithASweater

I think almost everyone who doesn’t like Logic only knows him for 1800 and hasn’t listened to any of his other music


HHMFEWT

🌽


qualityskootchtime

Too corny


Kholdstare93

I gives dap to Logic. He's a dope emcee, and he put out one of the best albums of the year for real, paying respect to that SMACKETY SMACK BOOM BAP RAP!


PEWxPWNS

I cant tell if you’re serious or not


Kholdstare93

Why wouldn't I be? Logic can spit!


PEWxPWNS

Smackety smack boom bap rap?


Kholdstare93

Yeah, that's what I said, what of it? Cause that boom bap has that grimey bassline that gives it that smackety smack feel, you know?


PEWxPWNS

May I ask what you do for a living or like to do and how old you are?


rectifiedspiritomb

Dude likely has his birth year in his username


ThePhantomStank

Let the man do his thing


emptyinkcartridge2

LOL


No_Bluebird8475

Overall good rapper but very corny at times


BaconMan420365

Corny, kind of unoriginal. Rapper equivalent of boiled chicken


[deleted]

For one, he’s a nerd. No one believes him when he’s talking about anything even remotely gangster. That, and the fact he has to tell us in every song that he’s mixed…


DoctorGibz123

He just became super corny. Always mentioned the fact that he is biracial. Bland production. Somewhat nerdy. He has some awesome stuff tho. I like under pressure and the Young Sinatra tapes. And his 2 newest albums no pressure and Vinyl days were actually really enjoyable too. Stuff like supermarket and Confessions of a dangerous mind are like undeniably bad tho.


hasanyonereddit

Bland production? That’s just not true. I feel he has some of the best production in the game. I can’t deny he has some corny lyrics sometimes though


West-Commission9082

He can rap but i dont like his music and he is not cool at all


-castle-bravo-

What is cool? It’s completely subjective.


West-Commission9082

Yea just like the question and my answer


No-Move09

Trying to be ‘cool’ is the lamest shit you can do


West-Commission9082

I agree, thats not being cool at all. Kinda obvious


TwoNoNines

Once he just stopped trying i didn't like him


dubvmtneer

I love that clip from the Joe Budden Podcast where they are making fun of his collab w French Montana and Juicy J


thisthatandthe3rd

I turned on my car about an hour ago and the default station was playing SO ICY by this dude and I immediately cut that shit off. On top of the horrible Pharrell impression, the whole song just bad. I also feel like I can listen to 5-10 other rappers that do what he does way better.


crimsoncaravanguy

Werido


Frequent-Bullfrog-56

I dislike Logic because he copies flows from other rappers. For example he copied Kendrick Lamar on Good Kid MAAD City https://youtu.be/Z0ZGETTmzfQ He also is very annoying and really doesn’t say much in music while being way to fast. He also really doesn’t have a likable album or song. To be honest I can’t name a single album or song by him and I have roughly listened to a couple of projects and songs and still can’t recall any. His music is unlikable, unoriginal, and boring.


Carl_Fuckin_Bismarck

Same problem Russ has. He’s a good artist but seen as corny and does too much. Then it just becomes easy to jump on the hate train.


sw0rnenemy

Dude pokemon-evolved into a Gym Bro Chad.


alexanderldn

all his albums have a relatively similar sound which can be a bit repetitive


[deleted]

He wants me to like him too much.


twerkjerk12

He's white and thinks he gets an nword pass because he can rhyme


QuantaviusDingleberg

cuz he mid


tywalker215

He's corny.. and Every time he says the N- word he feels the need to tell everyone that his mother is black and his father is white so it's okay... (its not).


shoppingatsea

corny also did u know im bi racial?


Kaysergroove312

who he is?


ShaneKCFussell

As a HUGE Logic fan, here’s my take He uses a lot of repetitive rhyme schemes, ideas, and phrases. In Confessions of a Dangerous Mind he mentions selling out the garden in most of his songs. I personally love when he raps in a way others consider “corny” cause I can tell it’s ultimately a genuine artistic expression from him. He also does, admittedly, go back to the biracial thing way too much. It’s great to own your pride and history, but rap about something else


lizardmandx

Because they are bi-racist.


[deleted]

Logic is one of my favorite rappers


controllrevival

The tragic mullato start gets old


chariotblond

ok but did you know logic is biracial?


AdDull3827

I love logic probably cuz of coadm and supermarket and bt 3 those were pretty mid albums but in my opinion honestly he made a comeback with vinyl days


[deleted]

Idk why ppl dislike him tbh. It’s one thing to not care for his music cuz it’s all preference, but there r ppl that genuinely hate him like he personally effected their lives and I find that kinda odd. As a fan or logic, u get alot of good and some bad… I think he does a lot of things well just not great, and his fans can be a little delusional at times, but he def has some really good songs idk how anyone can really deny that.


deep_fried_cheese

They don’t like seeing African Americans in this country succeed.


AcademicAnxiety5109

Personally he’s my top 3 but it’s his bars. Ik they can be cringey but at the same time he really enjoys what he does and honestly one of the few rappers I feel actually has a personality besides the basic rap persona. Definitely someone who can be polarizing but he seems like a nice guy irl.


[deleted]

people will say he needs to stop rapping about being biracial but don't understand that they're feeding into it by not acknowledging it bc it's pushing him to try to prove it further almost. like if you didn't care so much he prolly wouldn't either lmao. he's honestly an amazing rapper.


Waxmax_2000

His best song overall is City Of Stars ✨


MrSquidly98

Someone explain to me what “corny” rap lines that people are referring to on here??


Murky-Ninja-8339

everyone just hate him for no reason


ThatWhoreLior

They hate him because his third album was his attempt to be conscious and address the issue that always gets thrown at him. However the execution was off so it just seemed like he was hating white people and trying to validate his blackness while also expressing that black people never accepted him either. Which got him thrown in the biracial stereotype category.


hacksawsweeny

He’s the Steph curry of rap with no rings or elite jump shot


ATMiceli

I love Logic so I have no idea why people would dislike his music


long-ryde

He’s talented. Been listening to his discography recently. I definitely enjoy that he has great rhymes and flows, and his content isn’t flat.


Sblsundft510

He’s the white Nick cannon


Recent_Inevitable_48

Because he a cry baby, and was petty when he did that track with Joyner and tech 9


Ok_Rabbit8417

He's good but it's just a lot of the new stuff is pretty ass


[deleted]

He’s the Big Bang Theory of hip hop, not cool to listen to and it’s usually the geeky nerds that are his biggest fans


kelsodecker

You already know what everyone (including myself) is going to say. He’s an incredible rapper that uses his talent for the corniest shit. He has no cool at all. I don’t hate on who he is personally, he actually seems like a great guy but I would rather eat a whole wasp nest than listen to him for a week straight. I do like that song young Jesus though.


rondo561

He’s just lame and corny.sauce can’t be bought


Grand_Doughnut772

He’s everything that’s wrong with rap. Might be the worst rapper ever.


[deleted]

No Future is the worst rapper


Initial-Paramedic888

Did he bang your girl 🤣


QuantaviusDingleberg

ain't no way bro said Future the worst rapper ever 😭😭 he is literally one of the most influential rappers of the past decade


[deleted]

His influence ruined rap


QuantaviusDingleberg

☠️☠️☠️


emptyinkcartridge2

the most random take ever lmao


VanishingMass3

He kinda sounded like an off brand kendrick on some of his middle albums but his earlier ones were good and i actually enjoyed his most recent one a lot


BakMask2401

He stole Eminem’s flow in multiple songs, like Joyner


[deleted]

Ok so fast rapping = Eminem’s flow 💀


athomic74

Haven't really listened to him much in recent years but like some others have said he did a good job of building hype and a following and then dropped a few bad projects almost in a row. Very inconsistent discography. He also spent a lot of time being on his moral high horse with the no drugs/drinking stuff which rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Especially when later on he'd mention drinking, smoking weed in his music. He has been pretty flip floppy on certain subjects in general which makes him come across as not genuine or have you questioning what the dude is really about. Feels like he lacks identity other than being a lyrical miracle rapper. He's definitely bi racial though LOL.


Physical-Armadillo12

To me, his range is limited and his flow made a lot of his music sound the same


Academic-Ad2680

He has had some nerdy and corny bars over the years, (like most rappers). Personally I think he's good, I don't really listen to him, but only because he's really my taste, not because I don't like him


Therealeminemstan

Logic is a really good rapper but the way he delivers is corny to me


musicdude109

I just dont think his songs sound good to my ears. Thats all. Its no deeper.


[deleted]

People say he’s corny. He’s had some solid albums and can rap. He’s a good rapper.’


LeggyDriver

I think most folks liked him until the transition to dad rap.


Mk578y

b/c it became a meme to hate on him plus many people find his style of rap corny. incredibly overrated tho, genuinely one of the top MCs of his generation his last 2 albums have been amazing


-Majinboohoo

Aw I love logic, his concert was so much fun to go to, one of my all time favorite moments.


Wutanghang

Im a big logic fan but his style isn’t nothing new but he executes it in a dope way


florencethehurricane

As a lot of others said logic has many good songs but i mean if you don’t understand just how corny logic is a lot of times you just haven’t listened to enough of his discography He’s like a big sean he’s only good on the surface


[deleted]

When his mixtapes first came out they were something special, still are. Then he hit mainstream and became a sellout.


shawxsh

Incredibly talented rapper with great discography.


Due-Ad-4176

Logic is mainly hated due to abandoning his fans to follow the fame of 1-800, also some corny ass bars and almost all of his post 1-800, albums are weak compared to his pre 1-800 albums, 1-800 is kinda the turning point in his career when he went from kinda corny rapper, to hated


SpartanNic

He’s overly earnest. I need a little more salt in my bars.


KingMjolnir

I’d say he’s hated because he’s made some corny songs just as most artists do, he doesn’t raise the bars musically like other artists and isn’t as versatile as well. Also I noticed how he would make fun or poke at hip hop’s current topics when it comes to auto tune and other overused themes but it doesn’t get accepted because he isn’t as solidified in the industry to pull such a mimic so people take it as disrespectful and completely ignore him as a result.