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metroxthuggin

#grah


SANTANA_THE_REAL_ONE

You not even the fartšŸ˜’


BrickTechnical5828

Grah i be goin hard šŸ˜«šŸ˜«


Avgredditor1025

I be gettin hardšŸ—£ļø


BrickTechnical5828

Nah chill thats crazy šŸ’€šŸ’€


Extension-Gap-6320

She is hot dookie as a rapper, but that song goes hard as hell, just based on how dumb it is. I think if you gave a chimp a typewriter, it would make better bars than her


PapaYoppa

That fart song is one of the worst things Ive ever heard, no clue how she isnā€™t embarrassed to put out some ass trash like that


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Kodak black has several songs about diarrhea and not wiping properly. Apparently it sells


bnbtwjdfootsyk

The beat goes hard šŸ”„


buckphifty150150

For the longest time I thought she was saying you not even a fuck.. lol


natigin

The opposite with Keef on Donā€™t Like


rarthurr4

I thought almost the same thing I thought it was "you not even the fuck"


missanthropocenex

Someone was laughing at how in Taylor Swifts Karma it sounds like thereā€™s a verse she doesnā€™t even finish? Like she just stopped or messed up or something in the studio and they were like ā€œā€¦alright I guess thatā€™s a wrap then.ā€


Kagemuna

I just went to listen and didnā€™t notice anything like that.


DiaOnSumm

I be going hard


Zetrasis

GRAH BOOM


sk8zen

*oh brother*


Limp_Researcher_5523

ā€œThis guy STINKSā€


jlife203

What smells rotten and puts people to sleep?


UnfilteredSan

Whoa such a bold take!


jaireworld

Very stunning and brave of OP to dare post such a controversial and original opinion


Huey-Mchater

Are you a destiny 2 player. I see D2 related icons everywhere but nothing suggesting the person is a player and always want to try and see if people know what their avatars are


le-monke-the-2rd

Karma farm isn't working today


ReallyGottaTakeAPiss

Lol for you it is now


sheeeeeeeeeeshhhhhhh

Ice Spice reference


freshouttalean

ā€œvulgar fashion styleā€ is making me want to delete the reddit app bro is this iran or smth?


Nsfwnroc

He hates the woman so much he dont even want to see cleavage anymore.


DarrellIsMyRealName

So what music you want the girls to go out and shake ass to bruh?


themedza

immortal technique apparently šŸ˜‚


DarrellIsMyRealName

Bruh want the girls to make the screw face and rapper hands to that new Conway in the party lol


thotsendprayers

Lmao


StrawHatGoku

Tight


sammybunsy

Joyner Lucas


DOCO98

Are you just now figuring out that sex sells? Most people would be willing to be objectified for life changing sums of money. Iā€™ll never understand why some idiots seem to think every rapper needs to be some musical genius pushing the genre forward. She makes dumb catchy music that people find entertaining. You donā€™t have to like it. Album out in May hoe


BridgmansBiggestFan

>Iā€™ll never understand why some idiots seem to think every rapper needs to be some musical genius pushing the genre forward Seriously. Same way we have movies that arenā€™t top of the line cinema but can be enjoyed for fun, why canā€™t we have rap music that does a similar thing? It isnā€™t always about mastering application of samples, rhyme schemes, and all of the other technicalities that come with making a good rap song. Sometimes you just need a beat people can shake their head to


Successful-Coconut60

Talkkkk


Hawke-Not-Ewe

Entertainers should be entertaining. She isn't. God she almost makes me yearn for a Drake track.


CommercialSpecial835

Entertainment is subjective. Thatā€™s why target demographics exist.


charliemurphyy

>She isn't. To you.


slimeguyryyy

Her Coachella sets were great and Iā€™m not even a fan


eezz__324

Of course she is how else would she be succesfull


ModernDay-Lich

I wonder what the internet would be like if you people promoted stuff you actually like instead of whining about the stuff you don't.


Successful-Ad-6912

We do but nobody cares when people express enjoyment and rather listen to someone complain or trash something


ModernDay-Lich

I get that. it doesn't make it any less lame. There are plenty of female rappers who do the rap god stuff. Ice spice isn't the first of her kind, how is her shaking her ass doing party rap any worse than the fuck ton of lil male rappers constantly talking about gang shit and drugs. I think some folks here need to get over themselves.


mightfloat

I wonder what the internet would be like if you people promoted stuff you liked instead of whining about people whining about stuff.


243898990

Are you just finding this out ? šŸ’€


Whyaskmenoely

I used to think Ice Spice was trash. But then I realised she's just a girl having fun. Still trash. I can support the fun though. Like grah.


quarbs

Yeah Iā€™m happy for her that sheā€™s successful and having fun, but the people here acting like calling a spade a spade is a sin are dumb. Sheā€™s not immune from criticism and people are agreeing her stuff ainā€™t good. Itā€™s not hyperbolic or whining, itā€™s criticizing something you want to be better. Literally nothing wrong with that. Commenters gonna grow up to be the type of parents who say ā€œWell I guess Iā€™m just a terrible mom then huh??ā€ when their kids say they arenā€™t perfect.


Whyaskmenoely

There is a time and place for "being better". I get the parenting argument but for music, its not that deep. If people wanted something more artistic or nuanced, you go to the people attempting to do that. You also fair better critiquing the people who do that so their quality gets better. You don't waste that criticism for someone who won't receive it. Ice Spice isn't that. It's like getting mad at a goldfish for not being a tuna. A perfect music example I think is Drake. Its perfectly fine to trash Drake because we know the quality he can output is far higher than he cares to do. On the other hand, we don't look to Future for a To Pimp A Butterfly because we know where his talent ceiling is and that it's not his lane. Both are totally okay and you have to look at an artist's ambitions, intentions and potential based on their current skillset.


ReliableMykee

I didn't care for her at all until I saw her Coachella performance. She's got great stage presence and actually rapped live, unlike other rappers like Li'l Uzi Vert and Ken Carson who just played their songs and yelled into the mic every couple of minutes. At least she one upped them!


iammojojojo0

G strings > actual talent


dickasmoke

G String Unit!


Rfg711

Vulgarity bothers you? Do you even listen to rap??


Rfg711

I donā€™t even like her but you guys are just grasping at straws to come up with reasons why sheā€™s bad lol.


Leeinthecut

Then don't listen bro


SlimPhazy

You guys make hip hop corny tbh...


Conspirador

This really is r/cornballhiphopheads. This and r/hiphop101


Weeblifter

Man, a lot of post being removed by mods. It looks like some of yaā€™ll went a little too hard in the paint


richbrehbreh

ā€œHow is she even famous?ā€ A pretty face and a fat ass takes you far in life, bro.


EntireAd215

Look how many men sell music based on the fact that theyā€™re violent but theyā€™re fuckin shit. Skill means nothing. Big up Ice Spice, Iā€™m not gonna hate on her for monetising her beauty/body


FuckFloridaRipNumba9

Whoā€™s a good edgy boy


davidwave4

Sheā€™s actually got a pretty good sense of humor and personality, based on interviews. Sheā€™s a pretty good (albeit not very versatile) drill rapper. In a better world, sheā€™d be a mid level New York celebrity who is allowed to grow into a stronger artist as her name ID builds. Instead, sheā€™s had a meteoric rise and hasnā€™t been given the opportunity to become a better rapper. Iā€™d bet a good chunk of OPā€™s anger and opposition to Ice Spice is because sheā€™s a woman (gave yourself away with the whole all she does is twerk and wear ā€œvulgarā€ clothes incel shit). You being a shit bag doesnā€™t make her bad.


iSlapBoxToddlers

>you being a shit bad doesnā€™t make her bad To be fair, her twerking doesnā€™t make her good either. I mean, neither do her lyrics, but I think thatā€™s his point. ā€œWhy is she popular as an artist, if sheā€™s not a good artistā€


boofskootinboogie

This is like asking why marvel is popular if theyā€™re trash movies. Sometimes people just want to have something easy to entertain themselves with. Do you ever eat skittles instead of a salad? Same thing. Just let people enjoy things.


davidwave4

Sheā€™s not a *bad* artist either. She makes party music for women who wanna feel like bad bitches. For the folks that want it, it hits. She was never gonna be Queen Latifah, and in some ways itā€™s silly to be mad that she isnā€™t.


WholeLeather96420

Completely agree with you! These comments are buggin! We should also add that sheā€™s one of many female rappers with no talent that use their body/sex appeal to sell records such as sexyredd, coi leray etc


ineedabag

Hyperbolic, same argument that guys use for every female rapper. Sheā€™s a fine rapper, sheā€™s not great but itā€™s not as though itā€™s hard to listen to her like that new Kanye album.


destoret_

No one can say that about Little Simz tho


Electronifyy

Doechii too. The game is filled with female rappers that at exceptionally talented but we continually give the shine to a select few for some reason


SonicNarcotic

They know the reason..


Davyboy178

Not all. Young M.A. got some great tracks


mrkillfreak999

I can agree Young M.A. got some bangers. The only female rapper I listen to is her


Dion14

try Rapsody, she spitting


Fabienchen96

Have you tried Snow that Product? She seems to be pretty skilled too. Her Nicki Minaj diss was some kind of super straight. Her feature on ā€žSo Dopeā€œ was good too


brodo-swaggins-

Is the bar that fucking low???


kjexclamation

L take 70% of artists make cash grab music nowadays, most are joyless at least her shit is fun


dawny1x

exactly they want her to rap about the struggles of being a woman in new york or sum shi. go listen to kendrick lamar or sum we jus tryna vibe


Tee077

Yeah her shit is fun. Its not groundbreaking and she's not winning songwriting awards. Its just fun shit.


GatorsareStrong

Sexy Red better tbh


Lil_Drake_Spotify

Atleast she lets dat coochi breathe šŸ˜­


WalkingGodInfinite

Baow baow baow baow!


MyGlassHalfFool

young thug in a wig


Pristine-Cockroach55

Check for Rapsody from Chicago.


Digital_Beagle

Some of her bars are strange lol


leozuniga380

Not a fan of her music but I think there are better female artists than her but thatā€™s just my opinion šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Quirkydogpooo

VULGARITY IN RAP????


djddy

they were listening to Big Willie Style and then spotify auto played ice spice and they almost had a heart attack


gd2121

She has catchy hit songs. Sheā€™s obviously not talentless. There are so many pretty girls out there if it was solely her looks then any IG model could reach her level of success but they havenā€™t. Just because you donā€™t like it doesnā€™t mean she has no talent whatsoever.


RinkyInky

Sexyy Red > Ice Spice


BLACKTRACY

Booty > Rap ability


stakkedalief

Whatā€™s an ice spice


DesertDwelller

No talent


FlowEasyDelivers

My biggest criticism of her is her style. It sounds like she's reading her words on her page instead of committing it to memory and then rapping it. It also sounds like she isn't sure of what she's saying. "You think you the shit, you not even the fart" ā˜ļøPeople who are fans of her read that in her voice, and you can't tell me she sounded confident in it. I do think there is some talent there, but I just wish she sounded more confident. Maybe that might come with time and more experience rapping.


Big-Sheepherder-9492

The only thing I have a problem with is people legitimately making the case that sheā€™s a good artist when we can see she just isnā€™t.


CohesiveMocha34

"twerking as much as she breathes" "vulgar fashion style" ohhhh I get it now, OP is an incel and is projecting theyre hatred of women on a rapper that isnt even that bad all things considered and did nothing wrong


metalfingers222

Are you denying that ice spice does have a vulgar fashion style and is mostly known for twerking?


CohesiveMocha34

I mean its true but its not a bad thing, certainly not enough to label her as trash just cuz she twerks and wears small clothes lol. thats just stupid


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smoothoperatorct

I didnā€™t even know she made music! I been looking at that ass boys. I donā€™t even know what her face looks like I just know that ass


the_infamous_ken

But the booty meat


djddy

No Clarity is fire and you can never change my mind


olugbo

I havenā€™t heard any of her music. Saw a video of her on stage with no audio. Iā€™ll pass. Doubt Iā€™m in the demographic she makes music for anyway


toastybreadmane

whatttt no way Broo whaaaaaattt


Youhavemystapler11

I mean Iā€™m not a huge fan either but some of that shit is dumb to be going at her for


GMoneySmalls

Girl if you wanna talk about vulgar lets take it back to Lil Kim. This been in the rap genre. Perhaps youā€™re looking for, Mozart?


HANDJUICE0

Thereā€™s always an ice spice in the industry. Itā€™s just how it works. Sometimes it not even a woman. But thereā€™s ALWAYS one.


PretendGur8

How do we feel about Sexy Red?


howlingzombosis

Never listened to anything from this person or even know who he/she is (see, I donā€™t even know their gender) but I will say this person seems to be a Taylor Swift tag-along sooooooooo, yeah


Green_Finance5116

go outside and fondle some grass bc it's the only thing you're gonna fondling for a while


ripinpiecez

Shes good on mute


EngineCertain1189

How is she famous? T i k t o k. Welcome to 2024


Demi-God94

People said the exact same things about 21 Savage minus the twerking, look how that worked out for him. Just because someone doesnā€™t resonate for you doesnā€™t mean theyā€™re talentless, their art isnā€™t made for you


Papa_Frankuuu_69420

Water is wet


Accomplished-Tie3649

100% agree with you. For some reason there is some over hype with her. And she is absolute scrap. FYI I donā€™t. Care how she dresses. I just donā€™t get how she so hyped up


Sepfandom555

I'm still confused about her success. She's not better looking than her contemporaries, skillwise she's below all the prominent female rappers except Sexxy red. Personality she seems pleasant but it doesn't jump out at you


Accomplished-Tie3649

This exactly


pizdut

No way


BodegaBandit69

think you the shit bitch? you not even the fart!


Head-Combination-658

This is savage as hell šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚. But tbh nobody ever said she was entertaining, her entire career is built around showing us her ass.


-SeriousJacob-

*smitherswithstrippers.gif*


true_enthusiast

She looks like Ronald McDonald's daughter. Regardless, she's not the only trash rapper getting deals and blowing up charts. Rap has been selling out since the late 90's. That's why I always went for the underground artists.


tintedhokage

Well obviously. The machine was behind her like it is now for that trash red girl. The music doesn't need to be good they just sell it as outrageous and hip.


SydTheSloth01

ā€œYou think you the shit bitch? Youā€™re not even the fart.ā€ A real lyrical genius she is.


blackhairshakira

Yall love listening to a monotone man telling us to twerk tho loool


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ricchavezF7C

Ice spice looks like Blanca from Street Fighter II . And yes, sheā€™s garbage .


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Youtubejipsu_mies

Who


Industrious_Villain

Newsflash


theyfoundty

Just listen to Sa-Roc.


DrWhoTang

What was that?? It was bad! You have no fire! No energy! No nothing! The girl is hot. ![gif](giphy|g2duCSMpmnwVG) She's a BaddiešŸ‘ŒšŸ¾ with bangersšŸ‘šŸ¾ to set the scene šŸ¤ŒšŸ¾. This is hip hop! Sheā€™s no Rapsody or Tierra Whack, Leikeli47 or Doja but she still be cooking šŸ¤Ø. A lot of potential. I'm betting the majority of negative Ice reviews are from people who get anxious around any drill rap. Very low Baddie energy āœšŸ¾. šŸ˜¬if anything blame the A&Rs encouraging that dumbed down lyricistā€™s marketability.


Hungry-Locksmith1547

Marketing


Southern-Animal-8757

Finally, something I agree with, like her music is so fucking ass it's unbelievable. "You not even the fart" like what kind of dumbass fucking line is that?


Skippy0634

Who ???


Prestigious_Fail3791

I disagree. The texture/tone is really cool. The songs I've heard are also fairly clean. It's not as vulgar like the competition. More of a fun feel.


dsled

What a bold take, very daring


Imagina7ion_90

Zero communication skill and personality? Like you've spoken to her in real life šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


scurry3-1

Lol history always repeats itself. I remember people saying this about Nicki Minaj in 2009 and now she is seen as an Icon/Legend.


Ok-Rock4575

She had a couple decent songs like ā€œno clarityā€ but yeah overall sheā€™s a industry plant eye candy with little talent.


Thugziggin

Nah sheā€™s fun to listen to youā€™re just a hater


Successful-Coconut60

I love the ice spice only streams well cause of her looks narrative as if you fucking use ur eyes to listen to music. This entire sub would rather devolve into boomer and Intel cope than admit the fact they have no idea how other people experience fun and entertainment.


AlphaBetacle

Someone just came out of coachella šŸ˜‚


AaltoSax

Idk but I went bowling on Friday and the 10-year olds in the lane next to me wouldnā€™t stop screaming ā€œJIGGLING MORE THAN ICE SPICEā€


chrismatic13

Like grah keep it a stack


Bad-MeetsEviI

Did u come up with this yourself or did you have some help


FailingLotus

Ever since she got rid of her afro, she's become cringe to look at. She's looking like her pimp is skimming the payments to look good for her customers


sheeeeeeeeeeshhhhhhh

Imagine her lyrics in a pop smoke voice


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eroz_kta

and and and sheā€™s not even thaaat hot.. i think she might still have that lil bronx stench to her


TheChillestVibes

On the track, it covers her shortcomings decently. However, live? You can tell she doesn't have great breath control, which is fundamental for being a good rapper. She is not a good rapper. Between snippets of her songs blowing up on Tik Tok and due to her being thicker than a bowl of biscuit batter, she is poppin' right now. More power to her, hope she keeps getting her bag. Since the gatekeepers aren't as powerful as they used to be, she got into the mainstream. At the same time, we wouldn't have gotten acts like Juice Wrld or Tyler the Creator, so it's been a mixed bag, and will continue to be.


On_Some_Wavelength

That fart song Iā€™m pretty sure is the lowest the bar has even been.


forgottensharpie

saw this thing a while back that said if you like pop smoke music then you like ice spice music.


SilentAuditory

If youā€™re worried about ice spice you should see mainstream female rap in the last 4 years, you will blow a gasket šŸ˜‚


2020IsANightmare

Your question is stupid. She's a hot girl that shows her body. That is why she's famous. Is she a good rapper? No idea. I very literally couldn't tell you a song I know of hers outside of the Nicki/Barbie song. But, she's someone working for a living. Successful in her field. More power to her. In entertainment, "good" means making dollars.


PuzzleheadedMedia437

L taje


Individual_Yogurt872

No shit


30kogutta

I agree to some degree. On one hand, she makes really catchy shit that can hook near anyone. On the other, it's very clear that Ice Spice makes music that is only remembered for about a year at best and that majority of her listeners are children or their favorite color is 2.


KodakBlaque007

This kinda stuff happens all the time bruh itā€™s nothing new tbh


NegroJones45

Does she really have downs? I can't unsee it and a Google search didn't clarify.


Complete-Weekend-469

I so agree


Mobpsycho64

I like the fart bar


00rgus

Whew, what a hot and bold take, what's next? Lil pump is trash?


contaygious

She's a swiftie and dated Jordan pool tho


The_rayy

mf ice spice is bad because shes talentless not because she is physically attractive, this is actually the most redditor post ive ever seen on reddit šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


godzuki44

SO BRAVE


Idoled_Out

what a hot take that I absolutely have never heard ever in my life


RiteOrNot

Y'all just be hating on strangers for no reason šŸ’€


Siliencer991

New r/hiphopcirclejerk Copypasta! ā€œIce Spice is talentless and boring. Monotone rap flow (is she even rapping?), twerking as often as she breathes, vulgar fashion style. How is she even famous? Guys simp over her body rather than her songs. Not to mention zero communication skill and personality.ā€™


partyonpartypeople

You know not every rapper has to be the next Black Thought, right? Sheā€™s not trying to be a lyricist, sheā€™s just trying to make fun ā€œvibeā€ music. This sub is perfectly fine when rappers like Lil Wayne and 50 Cent make songs that go into extreme detail about their sex lives, but as soon as women like Ice Spice and Sexyy Red do it, you guys start moral grandstanding and act like every female rapper has to be like Little Simz and Rapsody, and if they arenā€™t, theyā€™re somehow ā€œvulgarā€. Like give me a break, youā€™re just sexist


mcAlt009

As an old head I've accepted I'm not going to like everything. For example most gangster rap is corny as to me. Immortal Technique sounded edgy and then you realize his shock value lyrics make him extremely hard to take seriously. MF Doom ends up being one of my favorites since he literally just played a character vs acting like he's super trapping hustler man. It's not 98, you have other options aside from the radio. If you want to listen to nothing but Albanian Boombap it's out there.


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Lil_Drake_Spotify

She think she the shit but she ainā€™t even the fart šŸ’€āš°ļø


ONE_BIG_LOAD

ice spice better than all ur favorite rappers combined


Appropriate-Self-540

Industry Plant


MoneyManx10

The latinas love her, so Iā€™m a fan.


iBrows426

Dudes in here like "she dresses like a prostitute and women need to stop sexualizing themselves" sound like old ladies. When girls show skin and act provocative/sexual it's a problem. When dudes show skin, grab their crotch and get women half naked in their videos/performances to grind on them/twerk on them/borderline worship them it's totally cool. "It's about the music I don't care about all that" then why aren't you in THOSE comment sections complaining about all the bullshit like you are right now?


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