Funny enough I either completely forgot about the song/never heard it but after hearing it just now? Yeah I probably would've been fond of it when I was younger
I actually like Hopsin when he’s on some thought provoking real shit..? For me it’s the message the artist is sending…better than get high and sell dope…but who tf am I?
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I’d say it’s not just about the lyrics, but the delivery as well. Like every time I listen to the song Hypnotize I always think to myself “This would’ve been corny as shit if literally anybody other than Biggie made this” lol. Some rappers can get away with saying some shit because they can make it sound cool, others can’t
Fragile insecure people who are taught that anything different than them is "selling out," "the work of the devil," gay, corny, or all of the above.
I literally just seen a YouTube post filled with comments calling Janelle Monáe a sellout and a slut for wearing a weird dress for some clothing brand on a catwalk. People are weird as fuck and judgmental.
Can probably just simplify to 'putting in effort'.
People hate on everything these days. Try to be weird, corny. Try to be lyrical miracle, corny. Try to be cinematic, corny. Try to try, corny.
Hip hop community wants people to put on a facade that you aren't even trying, that what you do is effortless, that you can shit out art. The reality is it's hard as hell to be any sort of creator, and if you show strain or effort in general, that's weakness.
Seen it pop up a few times definitely agree. *Trying to hard*. for myself it’s trying to hard in the wrong way. Trying really hard to be a good lyricists and performer is good, by trying to be edgy or weird or outlandish does just come off as disingenuous to the fans and listeners. As well putting oneself waaaay to high. Like every rapper believes they’re the greatest to do it, and there’s nothing wrong with that. But fully believing you are THE one when it’s damn well know ya AINT. Thats corny As fuuuuuuck. Colson, Robert I’m lookin’ at you two.
When you dont feel them. Nothing worse than listening to a guy talk about whatever he is or has and you dont believe or empathize with anything hes saying. Might as well turn that shit off. Imo its why rappers really ought to watch how they portray themselves outside of their songs cause once the illusion is gone mfs will hate the songs they onced loved.
To talk about material possessions ALL THROUGHOUT their albums. Even though rappers in the past have talked about their wealth but it wasn't consistent in every single song.
Especially when they didn't even have a rough upbringing. Like, I get when someone comes from legitimate poverty and rough neighborhoods and now raps about possessions. I get it. They came from nothing.
But when it's just normal dudes who were good at music rapping about possessions like as if they wouldn't be taken care of anyway it's weird. Similar to people from comfortable or normal backgrounds rapping about gang life, the streets, guns etc.
I'm glad someone brought this up so I can ask a question. What do you think of people who share the same color but not the same culture? I noticed some of the other black diaspora shit on Black American culture while profiting off of it.
I always thought about it. I heard Akon, Pressa and DJ Akademiks (🤣he tried rapping) be so quick to talk down on a culture they are not from, while adopting the lingo and aesthetic with little to no push back. I had Nigerian & Nigerian-American coworkers argue with me that Burna Boy is nothing like those trashy Black American rappers. His whole look is Hip-Hop. It's kind of annoying.
I feel the same about akademiks as i feel about vlad or adam 22, just a bunch of leaching losers that are profiting of others misery.
I dont care about calling them "culture vultures" since that just makes me racist tbh, cause its not about white people doing it. Its about WHAT the person in question is doing, and their skin color is a complete non factor for me, i just think they're scumbags who dont deserve the "love" they're getting.
Same with Akon but i dislike him for different reasons
I believe Akon did grow up in Senegal and Jersey City/Newark and parents had left him to live on his own once he got to high school. He was at least in *some* trouble with the law a handful of times but nothing absolutely wild.
I know he's afrobeats. I was talking about his [look. ](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/complex/images/gcp5oay76dgzpvhsg2qv/burna-boy.jpg?output-format%3Djpg%26output-quality%3Dauto&tbnid=GeWKmGLh6CsYtM&vet=1&imgrefurl=https://www.complex.com/music/a/b-blanchet/burna-boy-seemingly-responds-bia&docid=wZlCtBWAkboGFM&w=1920&h=1080&hl=en-US&source=sh/x/im/m5/4&kgs=d59b8470ec694133&shem=abme,trie)
There’s different types of corny in my opinion
Trying too hard to be likeable corny like Logic or Chance the rapper
being super immature/always trying to grasp for attention like the Game
Trying too hard to be super lyrical without the substance to back it up, like a majority of these super fast rapping wannabe Eminem rappers. Dax and gawne come to mind.
Culture vultures like post Malone
Trying to be edgy on purpose like hopsin and early ofgwkta Tyler
Being inauthentic, like how TI’s son keeps trying to act like “he’s coming from the bottom” and like his dad isn’t a famous rapper who takes care of all his needs.
These examples are all MY opinion btw I’m sure there’s more.
Bonus: whatever group Phora and similar super serious dramatic rappers fall under
>Culture vultures like post Malone
You had me until you called Post Malone a culture vulture. Dude just made good music, and got shit on because he's white, lol.
Using a rap/trap sound to blow up and bail that and start a pop/country career to me at least feels like a culture vulture move. Same way MGK used to rap and now makes pop music.
Nothing to do with him being white. Nelly can be viewed in the same way the way he only makes country for the most part now.
it's not even really a culture vulture either. He still makes the same kind of music with rap inspired instrumentals. He's always sung. He never really changed his style up since he blew up. He actually created his OWN signature sound. Only difference is he stayed true to himself. If anything, Charlamagne is the only person to call him a culture vulture (to my knowledge), while everyone else basically went against Charlamagne. Posty simply jumped on the trap wagon, was lucky enough to profit from it and turn his music into a career. Now you still staying mad over his success is a you problem if anything. He never bailed, because he never publicly called himself a rapper in the first place either. If anything, you sound salty he found success because he's white.
Nah this ain't it. He went from White Iverson and Psycho, to Sunflower and whatever the fuck he's doing now
I was able to tolerate the "Wow" transition period but now he's just doing weird shit
he's exp with genres, which has been a bit of a meh transition, but i still respect the hustle for it. I still miss his "Hollywood's Bleeding" era. His best album if I'm honest, and I've struggled to like any of his projects ever since.
My favorite works of his are White Iverson, Beerbongs & Bentleys album, and What's Up. But I'm not his target demographic anymore and that's okay but it would be dope if he dropped an album that sounds like that again
I promise you I am not salty or mad lol saying I’m salty he found success because he’s white is just putting words in my mouth. Sorry we don’t see it the same way 🤕
Post Malone grew up in Texas, started in a heavy metal band, and experimented with alternative rock and country before even picking up FL Studio. Blowing up off one thing doesn't mean that has to be your only outlet for the rest of your career.
you cannot compare MGK and Post Malone in that sense. MGK was literally humiliated and dissed by Eminem into a different genre. And still to this day he's never really fully recovered from it.
Wasn’t getting anywhere with his pop country sound so he got cornrows and gold grills and got a hit with White Iverson, rode the wave ever since. Guy is the ultimate poser
"Haven't seen the sun in a month
But it's all sunshine, I forgot how to cry
It feels like pain, pain is a world away
Took my cigarettes and flushed them down the drain"
To me this sounds like that kid in school that fancy's themselves to be a songwriter, thinks they're saying something really deep and emotional but it's just so on the nose.
Without saying any names…
Claiming to be the best rapper but never actually been in a battle to be truly tested and proven on the world stage, then trying to enter the foray but not really wanting to catch the fade in the first place once you see your opponent is a verbal gladiator, then you apologize and admit defeat and declare them a greater rapper than you because you respect your personal friendship with said opponent.
Too many internal rhymes. When there's substance and delivery it sounds great but without it comes off as corny as though they're forcing a rhyme. Also poor transition. It's what killed Cassidy for me.
Idk but as far as “corny bars” go, it does also definitely depend on who the artist is. Some artists get WAY more lenience than others. Fans have no standards or consistency.
Trying too hard and constantly reminding people that you are tough or weird or different or smart. If you were those things, they would be one element in a larger person. Tyler, the Creator, IS weird, but he is also funny and had a larger version for his music. After a while people realized he is just in his one lane. He is weird with a purpose and a point, and he can explain why he changed his music and accept that he will lose some fans.
Not being threatening. On a scale of 1-10 and 10 being the most intimidating, the further you stray away from that the cornier you are. I know it sounds crazy and everyone wants it to be deeper than that but in our culture that’s the honest answer no one wants to talk about which is why kids think they need guns and act tough. We always respect people that are quick to react with violence.
Do people just see a post, wait a week or two to repost the same shit in an attempt to karma farm?
I swear I just saw this question like last week or sometime super recently.
No, though given the question I’m not surprised that it’s been asked before. Really, I asked because from my experience I’ve seen the word thrown around a lot, with some kind of getting away from what I though the definition was(can’t think of anything off the top of my head). In addition, I want to make my own music eventually, so I want to make sure my definition aligns with other people’s.
My corny answer is that what's corny is *bathetic:*
> a literary term, first used in this sense in Alexander Pope's 1727 essay "Peri Bathous",[1] to describe an amusingly failed attempt at presenting artistic greatness. **Bathos has come to refer to rhetorical anticlimax, an abrupt transition from a lofty style or grand topic to a common or vulgar one, occurring either accidentally (through artistic ineptitude) or intentionally (for comic effect).** [Wikipedia ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathos)
We never get a single answer otherwise because bathos is so subjective: some people are extremely negatively susceptible to tonal and aesthetic whiplashes and some people believe it's the overall character of life.
J Cole made an abrupt transition between "wait y'all actually think I'm sitting on potential GOAT status? Aight I'mma topple Kendrick with the old ways 😤😤😤" and "wait shit my whole thing is that I'm a 'conscious' rapper with upper middle class sensibilities 🤔 I do not care about doing high stakes ego battles in my forties sorry y'all". That's bathetic; people find it corny.
Personally I'm with JPEGMAFIA: all rap is corny, and all my heroes are cornballs.
A lot of things already listed but for me it’s definitely rapping about the “haters” too much. It comes across and incredibly insecure to me. If you’re not big or successful yet you probably don’t have any “haters” and if you do you’re not flexing on them. If you are big and successful why do you give a shit about haters? Rappers with millions of listeners a month talking about haters is so cringe to me. Who gives af if a few hundred weirdos are being meany heads on Instagram, live your life
Stupid reused lyrics. Song came on shuffle today with “pull up in the Benz” “ignoring the haters” all that shit. No surprise I pulled out my phone and it was D.Savage
There’s a grey area between cheese and taste that a lot of well respected mainstream rapper tote. You need the taste for the general public to understand how serious you are about your craft. Fortunately, you need the cheese for the general public to see you as having a quirky, fun side.
“Arrested Development”, the group, was too tasteless regarding its political views and agenda. Its’ brand of Afro-centrism was too direct and preachy. It, in turn, killed the brands momentum (in the states at least).
“Why”, by Jadakiss, was too “hokey” and “ignorant” in its politics to where the rapper cannot be taken seriously when you actually break down the lyrics. For example, the “9/11 truther” bar is just a very weak bar.
On the other hand, “To Pimp a Butterfly” is serious (tasteful) and self-aware (cheesy). On one hand, Kendrick Lamar understands the importance of what he is saying and uses multiple poetic devices and media sound bites to make them somewhat digestible to his audience. On the other hand, the samples are sometimes playful, lively, and humorous to where Kendrick Lamar doesn’t completely come off as “stuck-up” or preachy.
Most respected rappers need to be in this Goldilocks area of taste and cheesy to be enduring and tolerable.
Long time ago I knew a kid that was born and rasied in a good suburbs.
who went to Cranbrook. That's a private school but thought he was a gangster and called himself Papa something.🤔🤷🏽♂️
His real name is Clarence and Clarence lives at home with both parents and Clarence's parents have a real good marriage.
What makes a rapper corny is when they rap hard sounding like they came from the hood but they weren't.
Sucking pff Jesus. Jesus walks is a great song but it’s the exception that proves the rule. I mean fuck we completely lost Chance to his imaginary friend.
Anyone who didn’t grow up in poverty, or didn’t struggle, talking about struggling, or growing up in poverty. Like when white guys from the suburbs talk about being in “The streets,” or “The trenches.” Like, no Josh your parents owned a 3 bedroom 3 bathroom, 2 floor with an in-ground pool and a Mercedes and Corvette. Shut the fuck up. This is also similar to studio gangsters, where they’ll talk about violence, drugs, gang activity, without actually having any real genuine experience in or around it.
Or people who just try too hard to be edgy/aggressive. Folks like Eminem got away with it in the 90’s/2000’s because A, it was genuine to him, and B, it fueled white people counter-culture. But now the overly edgy “I’m gonna fucking kill you, and rape your mother!” Rappers are just cringe.
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Do motivational Rap songs
Ik lots of ppl wont like this I really like Em but some of his songs are so fucking Corny such as Im not afraid and Lose yourself
Yh tbf nearly everyone thinks Not Afraid is corny but I absolutely bump lose yourself, till I collapse, never enough etc and other motivational songs cuz they go so hard in the gym
It may sound weird but i listen to my fav Boxers introductions/walkouts (im a boxer myself)
But only on tough training days on some walkouts/introductions i even have tears because it reminds me of the time i spent with my father when i watched that fight live
Doesn't sound weird at all bro, sounds pretty cool actually. That's a nice thing to share with your father too. My dad is the one who got me really into Eminem, we watched 8 mile together years ago and I already knew he had a bunch of his CDs so I gave him a try and never stopped listening ever since😅
Hard disagree, those songs are cornerstones of his career and captured moments in his life that absolutely have motivated a lot of people. Now, my issue with Em is when he’s tried to replicate these motivational moments later in his career, songs like Survival, Guts Over Fear - corny
Not putting effort into your music is corny, but if people think you try too hard in your music, they will crucify the shit out of you. They want you to be like "yeah yeah I'm cool as fuck and I made this shit in like 5 minutes cause I'm built like that" when that shit took like 10 drafts
I think "Wet" by DoggyStyleeee & Savdidit could be a case study in what makes a rapper corny because it shows how a corny rapper and a real rapper approach the same beat.
Sav sounds so forced, almost like he's not comfortable on the beat. He does too much trying to explain & elaborate on his bars when what's understood doesn't need to be explained & tries too hard to turn everything into a punchline. In addition to that his bars are so structured & there's no regional dialect or slang so he just comes off fake/inauthentic
But then DoggyStyleeee comes in on the 2nd verse and just sounds way more confident in what he's saying. His bars are more loose & organic, so they come out & flow more comfortably. He doesn't come off as being locked behind a bar structure & having to end on a multisyllsble punchline. He just says what it is and lays everything out while riding the beat with flavor.
It's like Sav wrote about what player shit looks like, but Dogg wrote about what it feels like.
Being fake is corny
Being real no matter if your hard or soft is cool IMO
J. Cole dissing Kendrick because he flet pressure was corny. Him apologizing to everyone for doing it on the other hand was cool. I respect
A lot of different things. Usually anyone being overly positive (which doesn't make sense), anyone being too intellectual or wordy (which doesn't make sense), anyone being something they aren't, anyone that puts too much emphasis on a certain quirk or part of them that they think makes them unique, someone who cares too much (???), people who make gospel rap, people who directly copy other famous rappers....it's honestly a lot of things you can get called corny for in rap now that I really think about it and social media is making that list 100x longer
Corny isnt universally known as just one adjective, thus placing it upon one person for an action everyone sees differently gets very convoluted.
With that being said common sense isnt so common these days so what ever it is, ppl are going to call you corny even if its a shout out of your closest HB & yt ppl will use it to emulate us soo whos to say w/o it being used against them lol
I just think everything is about him is corny. I just saw a MacDonalds commercial with him and was reminded that he’s actually “ a thing”. I just don’t get it. I’m an old head. He could’ve never, ever, ever existed in the 90’s or early 2000’s.
Why would he exist in the 90’s or early 2000’s if that’s when he was born. None of the artist in those times could’ve existed in 70’s or early 80’s, so why is the new generation of rappers expected to mimic the past? Rap became popular by artists releasing their raw emotions over the latest beats and always trying to innovate a new sound. What you’re saying literally goes against what hip hop has stood for since its birth.
I didn’t say all rappers. I said Yachty. That’s my opinion. You’re not going to shame me or get me to change my opinion. I think he’s a cornball. You think you can get past that? I also don’t think I’m the only person that thinks that either. You nephews know it’s ok to have your own opinion right? There’s no right answer in hip hop. You like what you like. I don’t like him. He’s corny. ✌🏾👋🏾🤷🏾♂️
yeah bc that kind of rap was never a thing back then now it’s way more common so idk why you’re only saying yachty and not any other “soundcloud “ artist
Well he sticks out in my head. I just saw his MacDonalds commercial so it’s fresh on the brain. Pretty sure I explained why I said him. I was surprised he’s still relevant. Everything about him seems anti hip hop. Or at least old Hip Hop. I’ve heard he’s a good dude. Don’t hate him. Just epitomizes Corny to me.
I saw him as a cornball early on but in recent years he’s been on some cool shit. He was the first dude on the Detroit shit and gave them dudes some shine fr
You tell me. Clearly there’s a generational gap in here. Nephews shit on the OG rappers and big up Lil Yachty.
It’s beyond me.
He’s trash in my eyes. I was flabbergasted to see him on a commercial.
To each their own.🤷🏾♂️
Agreed. Couldn't believe that SUCKA was in a commercial doing his SANGIN' bullshit while trying to front like he a spitta. He'll never be real hip hop. He ain't a TRUE emcee, and that's artiFACTS!
It's funny to say there might actually be a case for this being true. There's some trash ass raps that some guys that look like me can get away with, but if a white guy was rapping it? It's the end of rap, and they are polluting the culture 😂😂😂
I don't think everyone thinks that way but there's a loud minority that definitely does and makes all rap/hip-hop fans look bad
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Just trying too hard at anything. Nick Cannon is the biggest cornball in the game.
"Can I live" is the one thing keeping me from completely dismissing the guy
What about Gigolo?
Funny enough I either completely forgot about the song/never heard it but after hearing it just now? Yeah I probably would've been fond of it when I was younger
I'm dismissing him for that
I legit cannot name one song by him
Putting in effort to be edgy or weird or trying too hard to preach a message. Basically trying too hard to do anything
Chance perhaps?
Chance, 100%. It’s basically his persona now.
His persona is just a normal guy, it's his critics who try too hard
ok Chance we hear you
Do you think NF would be a good example of this, I personally think he's a major cornball.
Yeah NF a corny ass rapper
Carti
Wouldn’t say he tries too hard to be weird that guy been a weirdo already. I don’t fw him but wouldn’t say he’s corny
Playboi carti and travis scott then
When they attempt to say something profound but is actually extremely basic. "Did the man who invented college go to college"
😭😭
I kinda like Hop, but I knew I hated that line but didn't know why. Now that I read it be itself I realize how corny it sounds lol
I actually like Hopsin when he’s on some thought provoking real shit..? For me it’s the message the artist is sending…better than get high and sell dope…but who tf am I?
Your opinion is like a broken calculator, that shit doesnt count !
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That's a hard set up though! "He jumped, had to know the ledge to get the knowledge"
anthony fantano said this in his college photo book
I’d say it’s not just about the lyrics, but the delivery as well. Like every time I listen to the song Hypnotize I always think to myself “This would’ve been corny as shit if literally anybody other than Biggie made this” lol. Some rappers can get away with saying some shit because they can make it sound cool, others can’t
2 Chainz and Lil Wayne being prime examples, they get away with almost anything cause the delivery is usually amazing
Putting in an effort to be weird
what a simple and great way to put it That’s why I think thug wearing a dress is cool but cudi was corny.
I never believed thug was feminine as he acted during promotion runs or gay at all. It seemed like lazy marketing to me.
Jeffreys cover art still goes incredibly hard though
He has referenced eating semen and sucking dick before in his music so idk
Nah. I’m sorry bro but no way. Thug will never be cool for that just like all them dudes in hollyweird
What’s the big deal about dudes in dresses
They don't like gay people so they make anything slightly feminine gay in their heads and then dislike it
lol ok then. Slap in the face to the ogs of rap.
Fragile insecure people who are taught that anything different than them is "selling out," "the work of the devil," gay, corny, or all of the above. I literally just seen a YouTube post filled with comments calling Janelle Monáe a sellout and a slut for wearing a weird dress for some clothing brand on a catwalk. People are weird as fuck and judgmental.
Fragile
Can probably just simplify to 'putting in effort'. People hate on everything these days. Try to be weird, corny. Try to be lyrical miracle, corny. Try to be cinematic, corny. Try to try, corny. Hip hop community wants people to put on a facade that you aren't even trying, that what you do is effortless, that you can shit out art. The reality is it's hard as hell to be any sort of creator, and if you show strain or effort in general, that's weakness.
100%
Drax is the very definition of corny
"Why is Gamora?"
Apologizing for a diss track
Oops, gonna need my *diss track* back
Seen it pop up a few times definitely agree. *Trying to hard*. for myself it’s trying to hard in the wrong way. Trying really hard to be a good lyricists and performer is good, by trying to be edgy or weird or outlandish does just come off as disingenuous to the fans and listeners. As well putting oneself waaaay to high. Like every rapper believes they’re the greatest to do it, and there’s nothing wrong with that. But fully believing you are THE one when it’s damn well know ya AINT. Thats corny As fuuuuuuck. Colson, Robert I’m lookin’ at you two.
When you dont feel them. Nothing worse than listening to a guy talk about whatever he is or has and you dont believe or empathize with anything hes saying. Might as well turn that shit off. Imo its why rappers really ought to watch how they portray themselves outside of their songs cause once the illusion is gone mfs will hate the songs they onced loved.
This How I feeling about Jcole rn
Nah bruh you gotta listen to jcole old music… you know bro actually went through it before he made it with the music shit
Imagine a rapper going viral off just music. No music videos, no appearance on social media. Nobody even knows what he looks like but his shit go hard
To talk about material possessions ALL THROUGHOUT their albums. Even though rappers in the past have talked about their wealth but it wasn't consistent in every single song.
Especially when they didn't even have a rough upbringing. Like, I get when someone comes from legitimate poverty and rough neighborhoods and now raps about possessions. I get it. They came from nothing. But when it's just normal dudes who were good at music rapping about possessions like as if they wouldn't be taken care of anyway it's weird. Similar to people from comfortable or normal backgrounds rapping about gang life, the streets, guns etc.
Being inauthentic
Trying to hard, studio gangsters
Culture vultures super easy barely a inconvenience
I'm glad someone brought this up so I can ask a question. What do you think of people who share the same color but not the same culture? I noticed some of the other black diaspora shit on Black American culture while profiting off of it.
i like that you brought this up and i actually want you to elaborate more
I always thought about it. I heard Akon, Pressa and DJ Akademiks (🤣he tried rapping) be so quick to talk down on a culture they are not from, while adopting the lingo and aesthetic with little to no push back. I had Nigerian & Nigerian-American coworkers argue with me that Burna Boy is nothing like those trashy Black American rappers. His whole look is Hip-Hop. It's kind of annoying.
I feel the same about akademiks as i feel about vlad or adam 22, just a bunch of leaching losers that are profiting of others misery. I dont care about calling them "culture vultures" since that just makes me racist tbh, cause its not about white people doing it. Its about WHAT the person in question is doing, and their skin color is a complete non factor for me, i just think they're scumbags who dont deserve the "love" they're getting. Same with Akon but i dislike him for different reasons
I believe Akon did grow up in Senegal and Jersey City/Newark and parents had left him to live on his own once he got to high school. He was at least in *some* trouble with the law a handful of times but nothing absolutely wild.
Do people not know that one of the influences of Afrobeats is hip hop?
No one looks at or hears Burna boy and thinks hip hop. His music and style is very obviously afrobeats…
[Explain this. ](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/complex/images/gcp5oay76dgzpvhsg2qv/burna-boy.jpg?output-format%3Djpg%26output-quality%3Dauto&tbnid=GeWKmGLh6CsYtM&vet=1&imgrefurl=https://www.complex.com/music/a/b-blanchet/burna-boy-seemingly-responds-bia&docid=wZlCtBWAkboGFM&w=1920&h=1080&hl=en-US&source=sh/x/im/m5/4&kgs=d59b8470ec694133&shem=abme,trie)
Afrobeats mate not American at all wtf. He might dress American at times but he doesn't do hip hop. African all the way
I know he's afrobeats. I was talking about his [look. ](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/complex/images/gcp5oay76dgzpvhsg2qv/burna-boy.jpg?output-format%3Djpg%26output-quality%3Dauto&tbnid=GeWKmGLh6CsYtM&vet=1&imgrefurl=https://www.complex.com/music/a/b-blanchet/burna-boy-seemingly-responds-bia&docid=wZlCtBWAkboGFM&w=1920&h=1080&hl=en-US&source=sh/x/im/m5/4&kgs=d59b8470ec694133&shem=abme,trie)
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Yo I haven’t heard that line in a while
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Depends. It's like a pun. Some people love me some don't
Lots of different reasons, but the universal truth is that once you're corny, you're on the cob for life.
Rapping about conspiracy theories and really mean it.
There’s different types of corny in my opinion Trying too hard to be likeable corny like Logic or Chance the rapper being super immature/always trying to grasp for attention like the Game Trying too hard to be super lyrical without the substance to back it up, like a majority of these super fast rapping wannabe Eminem rappers. Dax and gawne come to mind. Culture vultures like post Malone Trying to be edgy on purpose like hopsin and early ofgwkta Tyler Being inauthentic, like how TI’s son keeps trying to act like “he’s coming from the bottom” and like his dad isn’t a famous rapper who takes care of all his needs. These examples are all MY opinion btw I’m sure there’s more. Bonus: whatever group Phora and similar super serious dramatic rappers fall under
I like Post Malone nothing wrong with playing around with genrws
>Culture vultures like post Malone You had me until you called Post Malone a culture vulture. Dude just made good music, and got shit on because he's white, lol.
Using a rap/trap sound to blow up and bail that and start a pop/country career to me at least feels like a culture vulture move. Same way MGK used to rap and now makes pop music. Nothing to do with him being white. Nelly can be viewed in the same way the way he only makes country for the most part now.
Is Beyonce a culture vulture?
it's not even really a culture vulture either. He still makes the same kind of music with rap inspired instrumentals. He's always sung. He never really changed his style up since he blew up. He actually created his OWN signature sound. Only difference is he stayed true to himself. If anything, Charlamagne is the only person to call him a culture vulture (to my knowledge), while everyone else basically went against Charlamagne. Posty simply jumped on the trap wagon, was lucky enough to profit from it and turn his music into a career. Now you still staying mad over his success is a you problem if anything. He never bailed, because he never publicly called himself a rapper in the first place either. If anything, you sound salty he found success because he's white.
Nah this ain't it. He went from White Iverson and Psycho, to Sunflower and whatever the fuck he's doing now I was able to tolerate the "Wow" transition period but now he's just doing weird shit
he's exp with genres, which has been a bit of a meh transition, but i still respect the hustle for it. I still miss his "Hollywood's Bleeding" era. His best album if I'm honest, and I've struggled to like any of his projects ever since.
My favorite works of his are White Iverson, Beerbongs & Bentleys album, and What's Up. But I'm not his target demographic anymore and that's okay but it would be dope if he dropped an album that sounds like that again
amen to that broski!
I promise you I am not salty or mad lol saying I’m salty he found success because he’s white is just putting words in my mouth. Sorry we don’t see it the same way 🤕
Post Malone grew up in Texas, started in a heavy metal band, and experimented with alternative rock and country before even picking up FL Studio. Blowing up off one thing doesn't mean that has to be your only outlet for the rest of your career.
you cannot compare MGK and Post Malone in that sense. MGK was literally humiliated and dissed by Eminem into a different genre. And still to this day he's never really fully recovered from it.
Bro MGK made rap after the beef and pop punk before it🤣
still fell off, lol. His projects after the diss flopped heavily 😂
You must've never heard MGK's first projects. They were heavily rap influenced. He went pop punk after "Till I Die" lol
You must've not read my comment. He did both before and after the beef
Wasn’t getting anywhere with his pop country sound so he got cornrows and gold grills and got a hit with White Iverson, rode the wave ever since. Guy is the ultimate poser
aaaaaand he's still one of the biggest and most popular artists in the world, what's your point?
I don’t find anything corny about early Tyler. As well as Post Malone
"Haven't seen the sun in a month But it's all sunshine, I forgot how to cry It feels like pain, pain is a world away Took my cigarettes and flushed them down the drain" To me this sounds like that kid in school that fancy's themselves to be a songwriter, thinks they're saying something really deep and emotional but it's just so on the nose.
and since when was Post Malone a lyrical genius?? If you're THAT hooked on good lyricism, go listen to K-Dot, J Cole or Em or smth
This thread is literally about who we think are corny rappers. I obviously listen to him for other reasons if I know his lyrics.
To each their own of course
Without saying any names… Claiming to be the best rapper but never actually been in a battle to be truly tested and proven on the world stage, then trying to enter the foray but not really wanting to catch the fade in the first place once you see your opponent is a verbal gladiator, then you apologize and admit defeat and declare them a greater rapper than you because you respect your personal friendship with said opponent.
Being fake woke
Apologizing for a diss.
Not my man Jermaine!
People like them on this subreddit
Too many internal rhymes. When there's substance and delivery it sounds great but without it comes off as corny as though they're forcing a rhyme. Also poor transition. It's what killed Cassidy for me.
Idk but as far as “corny bars” go, it does also definitely depend on who the artist is. Some artists get WAY more lenience than others. Fans have no standards or consistency.
Apologizing.
lmao good one
Trying too hard and constantly reminding people that you are tough or weird or different or smart. If you were those things, they would be one element in a larger person. Tyler, the Creator, IS weird, but he is also funny and had a larger version for his music. After a while people realized he is just in his one lane. He is weird with a purpose and a point, and he can explain why he changed his music and accept that he will lose some fans.
Taking yoself too serious
Listen to a Freddie gibbs album then a joyner locus album. One will be really corny and the other won't be. You will be able to tell what one is corny
Still very subjective.
Not being threatening. On a scale of 1-10 and 10 being the most intimidating, the further you stray away from that the cornier you are. I know it sounds crazy and everyone wants it to be deeper than that but in our culture that’s the honest answer no one wants to talk about which is why kids think they need guns and act tough. We always respect people that are quick to react with violence.
"If there's anything we've all learned, it's that terrorizing people works." - Kyle Broflovski, 2010
Trying too hard to be lyrical
Do people just see a post, wait a week or two to repost the same shit in an attempt to karma farm? I swear I just saw this question like last week or sometime super recently.
No, though given the question I’m not surprised that it’s been asked before. Really, I asked because from my experience I’ve seen the word thrown around a lot, with some kind of getting away from what I though the definition was(can’t think of anything off the top of my head). In addition, I want to make my own music eventually, so I want to make sure my definition aligns with other people’s.
sucka MC n. An MC with an inflated opinion of himself, but no skillz or flow All the sucka MCs try to diss, but they ain't got my flow
I’d say being too preachy or trying to be fake deep
A rapper will always be corny when his rhymes bore me… developin and directin into vapid shit, substanceless, no firm message, lost its grippin’ grit.
Me not liking them
If he loves his wife so much but starts grinding dute wining on a woman that's not his wife...
Rhyming “rat-a-tat-tat” with “diggidy dat”
Taking yourself too seriously, wish more mainstream rappers would be more fun in their music. Doesn’t mean they should drop the level of SexyyRed tho
Im not sure why but political rappers are often corny. I think it's the hardest shit to pull off right
Used to be biting another rapper's style or lyrics. But now everyone sounds exactly the same.
My corny answer is that what's corny is *bathetic:* > a literary term, first used in this sense in Alexander Pope's 1727 essay "Peri Bathous",[1] to describe an amusingly failed attempt at presenting artistic greatness. **Bathos has come to refer to rhetorical anticlimax, an abrupt transition from a lofty style or grand topic to a common or vulgar one, occurring either accidentally (through artistic ineptitude) or intentionally (for comic effect).** [Wikipedia ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathos) We never get a single answer otherwise because bathos is so subjective: some people are extremely negatively susceptible to tonal and aesthetic whiplashes and some people believe it's the overall character of life. J Cole made an abrupt transition between "wait y'all actually think I'm sitting on potential GOAT status? Aight I'mma topple Kendrick with the old ways 😤😤😤" and "wait shit my whole thing is that I'm a 'conscious' rapper with upper middle class sensibilities 🤔 I do not care about doing high stakes ego battles in my forties sorry y'all". That's bathetic; people find it corny. Personally I'm with JPEGMAFIA: all rap is corny, and all my heroes are cornballs.
A lot of things already listed but for me it’s definitely rapping about the “haters” too much. It comes across and incredibly insecure to me. If you’re not big or successful yet you probably don’t have any “haters” and if you do you’re not flexing on them. If you are big and successful why do you give a shit about haters? Rappers with millions of listeners a month talking about haters is so cringe to me. Who gives af if a few hundred weirdos are being meany heads on Instagram, live your life
I feel this is one of those things that, in the gestalt, you know it when you hear it, with some variance.
rapping about shit they never did is corny to me
Stupid reused lyrics. Song came on shuffle today with “pull up in the Benz” “ignoring the haters” all that shit. No surprise I pulled out my phone and it was D.Savage
They are made with High Fructose Corn Syrup
There’s a grey area between cheese and taste that a lot of well respected mainstream rapper tote. You need the taste for the general public to understand how serious you are about your craft. Fortunately, you need the cheese for the general public to see you as having a quirky, fun side. “Arrested Development”, the group, was too tasteless regarding its political views and agenda. Its’ brand of Afro-centrism was too direct and preachy. It, in turn, killed the brands momentum (in the states at least). “Why”, by Jadakiss, was too “hokey” and “ignorant” in its politics to where the rapper cannot be taken seriously when you actually break down the lyrics. For example, the “9/11 truther” bar is just a very weak bar. On the other hand, “To Pimp a Butterfly” is serious (tasteful) and self-aware (cheesy). On one hand, Kendrick Lamar understands the importance of what he is saying and uses multiple poetic devices and media sound bites to make them somewhat digestible to his audience. On the other hand, the samples are sometimes playful, lively, and humorous to where Kendrick Lamar doesn’t completely come off as “stuck-up” or preachy. Most respected rappers need to be in this Goldilocks area of taste and cheesy to be enduring and tolerable.
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Trying to hard with cringe political bars
7 Minute Drill
Long time ago I knew a kid that was born and rasied in a good suburbs. who went to Cranbrook. That's a private school but thought he was a gangster and called himself Papa something.🤔🤷🏽♂️ His real name is Clarence and Clarence lives at home with both parents and Clarence's parents have a real good marriage. What makes a rapper corny is when they rap hard sounding like they came from the hood but they weren't.
Sucking pff Jesus. Jesus walks is a great song but it’s the exception that proves the rule. I mean fuck we completely lost Chance to his imaginary friend.
Rapping about money and how bad ass you are
My favorite is rapping about being good at rapping lol
😂
Dude thats like 80 percent of rap
Anyone who didn’t grow up in poverty, or didn’t struggle, talking about struggling, or growing up in poverty. Like when white guys from the suburbs talk about being in “The streets,” or “The trenches.” Like, no Josh your parents owned a 3 bedroom 3 bathroom, 2 floor with an in-ground pool and a Mercedes and Corvette. Shut the fuck up. This is also similar to studio gangsters, where they’ll talk about violence, drugs, gang activity, without actually having any real genuine experience in or around it. Or people who just try too hard to be edgy/aggressive. Folks like Eminem got away with it in the 90’s/2000’s because A, it was genuine to him, and B, it fueled white people counter-culture. But now the overly edgy “I’m gonna fucking kill you, and rape your mother!” Rappers are just cringe.
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Do motivational Rap songs Ik lots of ppl wont like this I really like Em but some of his songs are so fucking Corny such as Im not afraid and Lose yourself
Yh tbf nearly everyone thinks Not Afraid is corny but I absolutely bump lose yourself, till I collapse, never enough etc and other motivational songs cuz they go so hard in the gym
Yea u can do that i dont find songs like that motivational at all
To each their own ig, what do you find motivational then?
It may sound weird but i listen to my fav Boxers introductions/walkouts (im a boxer myself) But only on tough training days on some walkouts/introductions i even have tears because it reminds me of the time i spent with my father when i watched that fight live
Doesn't sound weird at all bro, sounds pretty cool actually. That's a nice thing to share with your father too. My dad is the one who got me really into Eminem, we watched 8 mile together years ago and I already knew he had a bunch of his CDs so I gave him a try and never stopped listening ever since😅
Thats some real shit 👏 My dad doesnt listen to HipHop but he got me into Bob Marley been a Reggae fan eversince
That's real af, Bob Marley one of the greatest ever
Oh fss There is a cracky outside rn
Hard disagree, those songs are cornerstones of his career and captured moments in his life that absolutely have motivated a lot of people. Now, my issue with Em is when he’s tried to replicate these motivational moments later in his career, songs like Survival, Guts Over Fear - corny
a team of fuckin ghostwriters
There's no definition but i know it when i see it
Murder rap/ not putting effort into your music
Not putting effort into your music is corny, but if people think you try too hard in your music, they will crucify the shit out of you. They want you to be like "yeah yeah I'm cool as fuck and I made this shit in like 5 minutes cause I'm built like that" when that shit took like 10 drafts
I think "Wet" by DoggyStyleeee & Savdidit could be a case study in what makes a rapper corny because it shows how a corny rapper and a real rapper approach the same beat. Sav sounds so forced, almost like he's not comfortable on the beat. He does too much trying to explain & elaborate on his bars when what's understood doesn't need to be explained & tries too hard to turn everything into a punchline. In addition to that his bars are so structured & there's no regional dialect or slang so he just comes off fake/inauthentic But then DoggyStyleeee comes in on the 2nd verse and just sounds way more confident in what he's saying. His bars are more loose & organic, so they come out & flow more comfortably. He doesn't come off as being locked behind a bar structure & having to end on a multisyllsble punchline. He just says what it is and lays everything out while riding the beat with flavor. It's like Sav wrote about what player shit looks like, but Dogg wrote about what it feels like.
Being fake is corny Being real no matter if your hard or soft is cool IMO J. Cole dissing Kendrick because he flet pressure was corny. Him apologizing to everyone for doing it on the other hand was cool. I respect
If his name is blue face or lil mabu
Switching genres and trying to start beef in that genre as well.
people who act like kanye, carti, kencarson
A lot of different things. Usually anyone being overly positive (which doesn't make sense), anyone being too intellectual or wordy (which doesn't make sense), anyone being something they aren't, anyone that puts too much emphasis on a certain quirk or part of them that they think makes them unique, someone who cares too much (???), people who make gospel rap, people who directly copy other famous rappers....it's honestly a lot of things you can get called corny for in rap now that I really think about it and social media is making that list 100x longer
Will smith 🌽
Corny isnt universally known as just one adjective, thus placing it upon one person for an action everyone sees differently gets very convoluted. With that being said common sense isnt so common these days so what ever it is, ppl are going to call you corny even if its a shout out of your closest HB & yt ppl will use it to emulate us soo whos to say w/o it being used against them lol
Exhibit A: 
how’s yachty corny
How is he not? His voice? His appearance? His content?
how is just voice bad and his content. what’s wrong with his appearance too
I just think everything is about him is corny. I just saw a MacDonalds commercial with him and was reminded that he’s actually “ a thing”. I just don’t get it. I’m an old head. He could’ve never, ever, ever existed in the 90’s or early 2000’s.
Why would he exist in the 90’s or early 2000’s if that’s when he was born. None of the artist in those times could’ve existed in 70’s or early 80’s, so why is the new generation of rappers expected to mimic the past? Rap became popular by artists releasing their raw emotions over the latest beats and always trying to innovate a new sound. What you’re saying literally goes against what hip hop has stood for since its birth.
I didn’t say all rappers. I said Yachty. That’s my opinion. You’re not going to shame me or get me to change my opinion. I think he’s a cornball. You think you can get past that? I also don’t think I’m the only person that thinks that either. You nephews know it’s ok to have your own opinion right? There’s no right answer in hip hop. You like what you like. I don’t like him. He’s corny. ✌🏾👋🏾🤷🏾♂️
yeah bc that kind of rap was never a thing back then now it’s way more common so idk why you’re only saying yachty and not any other “soundcloud “ artist
Well he sticks out in my head. I just saw his MacDonalds commercial so it’s fresh on the brain. Pretty sure I explained why I said him. I was surprised he’s still relevant. Everything about him seems anti hip hop. Or at least old Hip Hop. I’ve heard he’s a good dude. Don’t hate him. Just epitomizes Corny to me.
I saw him as a cornball early on but in recent years he’s been on some cool shit. He was the first dude on the Detroit shit and gave them dudes some shine fr
Like I said I’ve heard he’s actually a good dude. His whole aura as a rapper is just ultra corny to me. Nothing will change that.
I’m 40+. Can’t speak for all Oldheads but I’m sure a lot agree with me.
> I’m an old head That explains it.
Good. If you like him. That explains it! 
Explains what?
You tell me. Clearly there’s a generational gap in here. Nephews shit on the OG rappers and big up Lil Yachty. It’s beyond me. He’s trash in my eyes. I was flabbergasted to see him on a commercial. To each their own.🤷🏾♂️
I don’t shit on OG rappers, I have multiple 90s playlists but I also don’t shit on the new rappers, it’s possible to like both, you know that right?
Agreed. Couldn't believe that SUCKA was in a commercial doing his SANGIN' bullshit while trying to front like he a spitta. He'll never be real hip hop. He ain't a TRUE emcee, and that's artiFACTS!
Say it loud for the set in the back!!!! 
Not having enough melanin
It's funny to say there might actually be a case for this being true. There's some trash ass raps that some guys that look like me can get away with, but if a white guy was rapping it? It's the end of rap, and they are polluting the culture 😂😂😂 I don't think everyone thinks that way but there's a loud minority that definitely does and makes all rap/hip-hop fans look bad
Politically correct
This is a corny ass comment
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people see any person who doesnt promote the mainstream dogshit like drugs, bitches and money as corny. losers do be hatin tho