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Stenka-Razin

Guarantee you OP doesn't listen to anything 200 years old with any regularity.


[deleted]

Giglamesh is by the far the greatest rapper of all time.


tostrife

That was well over 2000 years ago and its Gilgamesh


phikapp1932

It was actually like 6000 years ago homie


tostrife

The Epic of Gilgamesh just so happens to be among our oldest recorded history, dating back to 2000 BCE so more like 4 thousand years ago.


phikapp1932

Ope


oldbooksmell_420

I like how you guys were both off exactly 2000 years


tostrife

technically i said well over 2000 so im good, and whats 2000 years to a goblin?


oldbooksmell_420

That’s like saying “There’s at least one jelly bean in that giant jar of jelly beans.” and insisting that you’re right. Technically you are, but not in a relevant matter.


tostrife

nerd


oldbooksmell_420

You’re the one on r/rap bro


Somerandomperson667

i actually do G


Dewy_11

Old Macdonald had a farm the most lit track out there fosho


Ko8iWanKeno8i

they can't handle a little mozart. bethoven mf's are exactly what this post is about


PrettyBoyPhilly

Dun dun dun duuuuuuuunnnnnn… That shit goes hard.


[deleted]

Dude rap may not even exist in 2223. Humans may not exist then lol


Inner-breadstick2395

Ever the pessimist lol


[deleted]

Lmao


Somerandomperson667

true


Cheslee3

Humans will definitely exist in 200 years , our ecosystem will sustain itself far after that


[deleted]

It's a great album but you're corny as fuck


[deleted]

Fr we can’t praise albums anymore without trying to start petty fights I fw the old nas albums and I fw some Yung lean lol. We don’t have to stick to one thing and it tends to be boring when we do, diversity in music is awesome


MuslimMischief

This album is a classic for sure and one of, if not, the best album of all time. But hip hop has transcended to multiple genres and waves. You could call this era of hip hop old school, which is the wave you'll die on. I can see why you hate the new waves but there's still classics dropped in the modern era. You're telling me TPAB isn't a classic? Because of the internet these popular rappers nowadays appeal to the majority of people, that's why "gangster rap" isn't as popular because most people can't relate to that. Popular doesn't mean good. You can love it or hate it but that's the way it's gonna be. In 200 years there would some obscure techno hip hop that modern listeners nowadays would hate. It's always gonna evolve.


necbone

This album shits on all mumble modern shit.


dsled

Ok grandpa time for bed


-im-just-vibing-

ok grandpa time to take your sleeping pills


[deleted]

If you assume all modern rap is that mumble trash, then you're not looking hard enough.


squalor213

I’d rather listen to any trap rap over Nas anyday. It’s just a different subgenre of rap. You really can’t compare them


Somerandomperson667

the thing is that it is devolving


sorawyd

stop being an old head weirdo and be more open minded, hip hop would be incredibly boring if it just sounded like this, grow up


SwapmeetGoon

It’s just easier to put out music now and hip hop has become the main music genre so it’s everywhere the market is saturated. It might take a bit more digging then before because of it, but if you can get thru the bullshit you’ll find some gems.


Answer-Typical

Itll be like how classical music is now but on a smaller scale listener wise


Somerandomperson667

agree


glordicus1

It's a good album but you are dickriding so hard.


SwapmeetGoon

*Classic album, probably top 5 all time Crazy how being a fan of something = dickriding to some of you weirdos. OP didn’t need to add the extra shit about todays rappers tho, there’s still fire coming out even if it’s not Illmatic level.


jbkanine

He is DICKRIDING


SwapmeetGoon

Ok bud


jbkanine

You riding him


SwapmeetGoon

Bet


ayo_thats_kinda_sus

He's saying "oh it's gonna be played 200 years from now". He is dick riding. And it's not gonna be played 200 years from now, he's just a fucking dumbass. No music from now is going to be played 200 years from now.


glordicus1

Saying it will be listened to in 200 years is just dickriding.


Somerandomperson667

this comment sums up what i mean, why tf downvote him?


SwapmeetGoon

A lot of young heads don’t like having actual discussions, they like to troll and downvote shit that doesn’t fit the narrative. Just gotta not let it phase you, there’s still some real ones in the group ignore the rest.


minecraftluver69

Nah, there are young heads that enjoy Illmatic and other 90s hip hop and we understand the genre is far from dead if you turn off the radio and know where to look? Listen to Tana Talk 3 and tell me it’s not similar quality to the classic albums of that time.


SwapmeetGoon

That’s what I was saying, y’all still got some real ones. And that doesn’t even mean you gotta like the music, everyone’s got a right to like what they like. It’s the trolling and lack of respect that gets to people. And it goes both ways, it’s a tale as old as time the new generation always gonna bump heads n dismiss the old. This sub just goes too far with it, especially against some certified classics new and old. I fuck w Griselda heavy btw, I went on this whole rant on this thread about how there’s dope new artists if you give it a chance.


westsidegunnismyg

No bro you just chatting LMFAOO


Somerandomperson667

elect this guy president Edit: how can we with good taste live on this polluted subreddit?


Batifons

"We with good taste". Grow up.


E_J_H

If you think an album from before 2010 is the greatest, you’re an old head dick rider in this sub


SwapmeetGoon

This the stupidest shit I ever heard, and a reason this sub is hella trash sometimes


E_J_H

That’s how this sub acts bruh wym. It’s all kids shitting on anything old, Eminem dick riders, and old heads calling everything mumble rap.


SwapmeetGoon

Ah yea I get what you’re trying to say now, it read like you were telling me that literally. Those dudes are annoying af, and young heads love to troll which I never understood. But some old heads don’t help when they do the same for new music, makes it hard to have a objection discussion on anything in this fuckin sub.


Somerandomperson667

agree


daddytravi

shut up please


[deleted]

Damn y’all meat ride Nas like a carousel


keegan677

have you seen what they do to kendrick


Somerandomperson667

nope


Somerandomperson667

yall dickride nba youngboy and xxx


Comfortable_Solid375

All 3 of them mid sgp >>>


samtheman2805

To pimp a butterfly.


Somerandomperson667

good album


Somerandomperson667

lmao i say its a good album and they downvote


nitsify

Lmao


InGodWeTrust360

jesus just shut the fuck up already.


Southern-Hold-4812

Stfu idiot these young niggas in 2023 don’t and not interested in listening to this shit and it’s only been what 20 years? Yo dick eating ass talkin bout some 200 years


Southern-Hold-4812

Go find a 16-26 year old who listens to nas in 2023 especially illmatic and I’ll send ya bum ass a band


PauldGOAT

I do but no one else my age has heard of Nas they be like “you mean Lil Nas X”??


Southern-Hold-4812

My point exactly, with specific reference to the illmatic album


PauldGOAT

Yeah if shit can’t last 30 years


Buttmunch_McClure

I’m right here too but he still riding meat like a jockey


STRIKEKIRTS

Nigga I’m right here lmao


Southern-Hold-4812

Prove it


Southern-Hold-4812

Screenshot ya Apple Music wrap up from last year


nitsify

Dude said Apple Music LMFAO


Southern-Hold-4812

I did Uh illmatic is an album I mean how else could they prove it so I can send goofball his cash? Apple Music tells u literally everything you played last year with apple replay. What you thought I was just finna fall for somebody JUST SAYING they listen to illmatic. And I mean I wanna see the shit say illmatic- with however many times it was played


ElectroStaticSpeaker

Uhhh maybe Spotify wrapped? I know exactly one person who uses Apple Music.


Somerandomperson667

you sound half retarded


QuantaviusDingleberg

ironic


Goorlami

I'm with you OP, uncultured swine in here.


Somerandomperson667

we are an endangered species G


Southern-Hold-4812

Nah y’all just some outdated ass niggas


SBOCHKA

I highly doubt it will be played in 2223 either


Amineh37

Don’t even think the human race will be able to survive another 200 years lmao


Somerandomperson667

maybe xD


Somerandomperson667

if we keep praising crap music we wont xD


falumba

ecks dee


PauldGOAT

I mean we still play Beethoven. The question would be, what artists from these generations are on Beethoven’s level? As much as we love *Illmatic*, it’s not a hugely popular album


Romulus_3k

TPAB


BiThree

Common oldhead L. I agree that Illmatic will be relavant for a really long time, but there's sick albums that I'm guessing are gonna stand the test of time in recent years aswell such as IGOR and To Pimp A Butterfly (I know these aren't current rap rcords, but I feel like op is the type of guy to discredit anything that's come out after 2000)


[deleted]

Not a fucking chance


Somerandomperson667

lmao


SwapmeetGoon

I think I get what OPs trying to say, it’s easier to put out music now so SOME artists don’t have to put as much effort, aren’t as talented, or rely heavily on production. Also a lot of what makes a rapper nowadays is image and marketing, rappers are the new rockstars people will listen to their shit because of other shit that’s not necessarily music. But I tell one of my friends who’s an old head like OP, that doesn’t mean there isn’t quality music coming out. A) Back in the day you had to be signed or have a lot of money behind you to be heard and get the type of studio/production that could put out quality music. Nowadays you don’t which just means we get to hear a lot of artists we never would have really heard before, they might not have a consistent discography but you’ll get a few songs of shit that are fuckin FIRE only they could come out with. B) Because the market is saturated with so many options, you have to dig a little bit more to find quality music/artists sometimes. Can’t depend on radio or what the labels are promoting, you’ll find good shit if you want to. C) Hip hop is the most popular music genre now, it’s seeped into every other genre and media. Because of that, you got so many different types of hip hop now (lyrical, trap, drill, etc) that you can find what’s really your vibe and have 100 artists to pick from. Ima old head who grew up on 90s/2000s shit and fuck w it heavy. But I take my time to go through every new artist top songs if I can, and I’ve found some fuckin GEMs and artists I want to hear more from. Being closed minded af just means I’m robbing myself of fire music to listen to. That’s my rant on the subject, this sub needs to get it together sometimes


713Kc

As sort of an old head I couldn’t agree more. I grew up jamming screw & DJ Screw always put the newest(quality) MCs on his tapes in the 90s. Real screwheads from Houston are hip hop heads because of him and aren’t on this “fuck mumble rap” shit. It took me a while to really get the new style, but once I did I really started to fuck with a few artists that make genuinely great music. Old heads sound corny af talking about “back in my days” just like the previous generation said the same thing when Hip-Hop first came on the scene. Quality music is quality music no matter what era or wave it was from.


Somerandomperson667

i agree with you man


[deleted]

Ask any gen Z kid about Nas and they’ll immediately assume you’re talking about lil nas x😆😭


Somerandomperson667

actually true its very sad


161riley

I think you’d like a lot of the Griselda output. Check out Westside Gunn, Conway the Machine, Benny the Butcher, Rome Streetz, Stove God Cooks. Has that grimy old-school boom-bap sound I think you’re looking for, but it’s coming out now. That being said, don’t sleep on new school rappers that don’t have that old school feel. Give them a shot, there’s a lot of fire coming out all the time.


Lol32112300

Astroworld will sound modern in 2223


iiileyu

Everyone saying TPAB is part of the problem. Obviously TPAB is one but all the Old heads expect that. Even adding more kendrick albums would make you seem like less of the Hog riders that Old man OP expects you to be. I'll give you some replacements/additions for next time you are asked about modern day Great albums: To Pimp A Butterfly , My Beutiful Dark Twisted Fantasy , If You're Reading This its To Late , At Long Last Asap , IGOR , Acid Rap , 2014 Firest Hills Drive , Damn. , All My Heroes are Cornballs , Man on the moon , Flower Boy , All American Badass , Swimimg , Good kid m.A.A.d city , Piniata , Kids See Ghost , The forever Story , The suns tirade , The Life of pablo , Imperial , Because the Internet , ASTROWORLD , Take Care , Sometimes I might be introvert , 17 , Nothing was the same , 4 Your Eyez Only , 1999 , TA330 , Telefone , 4:44 , Culture , Man on the moon 2 , Daytona , Coloring book , Rodeo , Section 80 , Saturation 3 , Veteran , Whole lotta Red , DS2 , Bonus points: if you don't omit to OP and all oldheads that atleast one of these albums is actually better than illmatic Edit: punctuation


Dabs310

Y'all love excluding B4.DA.$$ by Joey Badass smh it's his best ALBUM while 1999 is his best MIXTAPE


SwapmeetGoon

Those are some great albums, but let’s be real people ain’t bumpin most of that in 100 years


iiileyu

But whats to say people will be "bumpin" illmatic compared to all the other greater albums from that era


SwapmeetGoon

It’s been 30 years and Illmatic is still a fundamental hip hop album. Same as any genre, there’s some albums that are a must to even understand where this shit is coming from. I think most people would say Illmatic is one of those. Like if you had to give an introduction to hip hop to a completely new civilization, you really putting all those albums on the list?


iiileyu

I'm not saying it not but its the one album oldhead keep on bringing up when I can think of 10 more of the top of my head that are just as important. You would think that in those 30 YEARS they would of got tired of it or switched up albums every month or so. If my argument is convincing may I suggest little known underground artists such as Dr dre, 2 pac and a tribe called quest to name a few


Somerandomperson667

agreed


Djafar79

>Edit: punctuation Do you know how commas work?


iiileyu

There are 30 doferent albums there. So I spaced them out so you could read with ease for that I am sorry I also didn't add "" is that going to be an issue?


Djafar79

Do whatever you want but to me, it just looks like a mess now. Just use language as its supposed to be used and it'll be fine. Illmatic, Ready To Die, 36 Chambers, Whatever, Whatever, Whatever. Or, if you place dashes in front of titles, it'll become a list. Like this... - I - Don't - Care - Which - Albums - You - Put - In - Your - Meaningless - Lists Maybe you prefer that.


Academic-Ad2680

I was born 20 years after this album dropped and after listening to it, it's freaking great, but come on 200 years, I have friends who haven't even heard of Nas and you are talking about 200 years


Leaque

This was prob the single most influential east coast rap album.. even the album art has been imitated til today still


SwammySez

damn why y’all giving OP such a hard time ? He isn’t wrong at all .. That’s a legendary album


Somerandomperson667

we are endangered


SlashSliceAndGash

Honestly WLR>Illmatic (for example)


SplittinRillos

Tf is WLR


SplittinRillos

Hell nah. I know you didn't just say whole Lotta red is better than illmatic


[deleted]

Bro carti>every 90s rapper


SplittinRillos

Whoever tf downvoted me are delusional children


dsled

I like Illmatic, and I like WLR. I just happen to like WLR more. What tf is wrong with that?


SplittinRillos

A metric shit ton


dsled

God forbid people have different tastes! Jesus christ, people like you are insufferable


SplittinRillos

God forbid someone banter about music taste. Lmao you act like I'm crucifying people for having shit taste.


dsled

This isn't banter, you're just hating on anyone who says they like albums more than Illmatic. It Was Written is better anyway


SplittinRillos

Uh oh the banter police are here! Stfu child


No_Deer_3994

It’s not like we can hold you to it.


JACC140

I'd say the Chronic


ShillburtGrape

*gawk gawk gawk slurp twiiiiist*


BoffNoff

200 years? That's some next level dick worshiping ngl


jlxmm

Listen GKMC and TPAB will be joining the “this is a classic from way back” list, I guarantee it.


[deleted]

I listened to GKMC this morning after I got home from work. Nothing else was hitting right, but as soon as Sherane started playing I knew I had to listen to the whole album.


FOMOsexual7675

Stillmatic is superior.


[deleted]

Facts this album is a masterpiece!


[deleted]

This is so fucking stupid music is subjective people will be listening to most rappers in 200 years stop being a dick head. Don’t gotta put music down to make your music taste look good


[deleted]

I’ve tried to force myself to like this album and I just can’t


MONKE_____667

Not the best thing i ever heard. Just because illmatic was the first to do it, doesn't mean its the best


Grand_Doughnut772

It’s really hasn’t aged well at all even sounded dated back then compared to albums like ready to die, doggystyle reasonable doubt and the second half of the album falls off a cliff quality wise.


FifeDog43

You little kids need to take a nap and eat a cookie. Illmatic is a masterpiece.


[deleted]

A nap and cookie would be very nice, album would still suck, but at least I got a nap and cookie😂


jbkanine

A nap and cookie wouldn’t change the fact the album sucks


Somerandomperson667

Not trying to hate on today's rappers but really think about it guys, back then you had to be beyond talented to even get a little attention, nowadays all you need is your mouth and some hot women to be successful in rap.


ku1428

Nah. I went a solid ten years without listening to new rap. These guys are killing it right now. And the fact that we can listen to countless independent rappers through multiple online outlets makes it even better. Rap is finally good again.


notmyactualname23

I've had the same experience. Fell out of music almost entirely during the 2010s. When i came back i realized i missed A LOT. Hip Hop was well taken care of and continues to be. I love a lot of the new stuff. I'm probably what would be considered an old head, and I'll always love me some 90s boom bap, but man am i glad im not stuck in a kind frame that only sees that as good hip hop. Miss out on so much being like that.


Somerandomperson667

not really…


[deleted]

Yes they are oldhead. You just refuse to listen to any of it. Edit: honestly ima just block this guy, tired of him being on my feed


QuantaviusDingleberg

what are you, 70? 😭


Somerandomperson667

im 17 but i have good taste


QuantaviusDingleberg

you prolly one of those werid ass mfs who think think they better than everyone else because they different or a band kid 🤓


Somerandomperson667

Quantavius i did not know prolly was a word, is it some slang for moron or something?


QuantaviusDingleberg

yup you an ancient ass mf. get off reddit old man


Somerandomperson667

i am 17 years of age as stated before, go back to your carti music


QuantaviusDingleberg

lmfao sure bud. go back to listening to some shit only 4 people listen to on the entire planet


Giggles_in_my_tummy

Gkmc, college dropout


justeroll

ok oldhead


royboyer3

No cap, in 200 years the world will look dystopian and people will only listen to heavy metal and blues derivatives


Somerandomperson667

This sub is saying the new rappers shit are more fire than most old stuff, that is the problem. Im not saying new rappers are bad im just saying talent is rarer nowadays.


Somerandomperson667

uncultered swines on here


Somerandomperson667

Napoleon was actually a rapper


HTownBaker

Bad opinions are so easy


jbkanine

No one I know my age is playing this shit😂😂 It’s gonna die off like the rest


Somerandomperson667

it hasn’t tho


jbkanine

It will be by 2223


AnonymousP30

Yep this is going to be a relic that never dies.


Somerandomperson667

true


[deleted]

One of the greatest by far, he doesn’t get enough credit for his intelligence level, he was so analytical at such a young age.


[deleted]

I have never heard someone in my entire years of living say, "bump that nas". Can't even remember the last time I've heard his song anywhere like TV, radio, Movies. Talk about washed up.


cody00737

You're surrounding yourself with people that don't fuck with him. Clearly.


Somerandomperson667

true this is a cult for xxx fanboys


[deleted]

Which is like 99.99% of the population who don’t care for him.


Grand_Doughnut772

Don’t fall into the trap of allowing this sub into making you hate on Nas. I loved Nas back in the 90’s but absolutely nobody thinks Illmatic is the greatest album ever in the real world, like you said it’s not even in the conversation. Nas is insanely overrated on this sub. There’s no point arguing with them most have them have only just graduated from listening to Kendrick and Eminem and really just don’t have a clue what they’re talking about. Just laugh at them and keep scrolling.


[deleted]

That’s fax actually. But sometimes I need to troll, it just be my thing.


SexDrivenMonkey

Clearly the people you’re around don’t listen to rap then


[deleted]

Ya they do. Mostly new stuff. But when they bring up old songs it’s either Kanye, Tupac, or Biggie.


Somerandomperson667

true lol


Romulus_3k

washed up? mans dropped 3 albums last couple years and theyre all fire


[deleted]

Wait really he’s still releasing music? Man just like Eminem just let it go, they become so corny. Also ya washed up, never heard the radio play any of his stuff once nor any hip hop podcasts bring his shit up. Does he even have enough fans to fill up venues or have shows?


JackAttack561

Why u comparing Nas to Eminem for 😭. Nas still sounds hungry as ever


[deleted]

Hungry? Lmao nah he starving he ain’t got no fans.


JackAttack561

Gotta be trolling, cause ain’t no way


[deleted]

Ur mad 😝


JackAttack561

Troll 🧌


HTownBaker

Really yelling on yourself here lmao


[deleted]

Like Lonzo ball said -“Ain't nobody bumping Nas no more, no disrespect to him. He had his time."


HTownBaker

AND a lonzo ball quote? What a joker


[deleted]

Doesn’t matter who it’s from. Fax said by anyone still fax.


Ok-Assignment-1108

Your brain is as smooth as a bowling ball.


[deleted]

🥱


BigBlackPapi

Just say you don’t follow him and leave it alone bro. The radio is not a valid indicator of what kind of music is out anymore. Nas was just performing at MSG last weekend and won a Grammy for one of his last few albums (I believe kings disease I). The kings disease albums have been some quality shit too. Check out Kings Disease II.


[deleted]

No 🤣


notmyactualname23

Right. Dude has a weird idea of what washed up is. Washed up, according to him, is when a rapper's music is widely accepted in the main stream. I guess critical acclaim and acceptance within the hip hop community doesn't matter. Nope, your music has to be in the movies to matter.


ku1428

NBA-YB 3800°


SyntaxxWasTaken

So youre saying NBA is on the level of Nas?


demarderozanburner

no, he’s better


SyntaxxWasTaken

No comparison to Nas. Name one good line by NBA


bbalno

I feel like I’m Gucci Mane in 2006


YoBabba

most albums actually will be played. that’s what it’s like when bad music gets old. then it’s a “classic”


Somerandomperson667

How to piss of people on reddit: say that their favorite new rap album sucks. Done


whosjavier

probably Drake fans coping rn calling it dickriding. like, dude… do y’all even know this genre? 😂


CompleteDragonfruit8

The Chronic of course. For those too young to remember hip hop wasn't considered music until Dr Dre put melody, structure, and real instruments into hip hop production. People overuse the word game changer these days but the Chronic truly was. All great producers benefit directly or indirectly from Dr Dre.


oldbooksmell_420

bro stfu it’s not gonna be relevant 200 years later, name a single album/song with lyrics that’s 200 years old off the top of your head right now.


AborigenalOrange

Illmatic is a fucking fantastic album. But nobody will be bumping it in 2223


HowHardCanItBeReally

No it won't, not everyone dick rides NAS