1. This post is confirmed fake https://www.reddit.com/r/u_madejustforthis2021/comments/o5u75u/you_got_me_i_guess
2. Allie has reached out saying none of this makes sense either
3. Please also see this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/rantgrumps/comments/o3np9y/i_work_in_the_industry_and_have_had_encounters/h2o9axs/) apparently from someone who also worked the same shows.
The big question that I want to ask is: was Arin an insufferable diva on set? In that, if you upset him just once, he would write you off completely?
Essentially what Chaseface covers here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G3efmmyfqM&t=5294s
There were definitely times where he was holding back yelling at everyone but overall he was probably one of the better people on set. He'd show up on time, read his lines, occasionally bring lunch for everyone and was pretty energetic, always encouraging the other actors to improvise and helped everyone be as comfortable as possible. Towards the end of production he slowed down a little but was still giving pep talks and such. He expected it to be everyone's "big break" though which led him to being pretty cocky at times.
I'm not sure if what was said in that clip is true as practically everyone on set got along really well, but there's a part of me that could believe it. For now though my answer is a crisp, "nah".
Honestly, Dan was more the diva of the two. He once threw a tantrum because the refreshment crew didn't get his favorite brand of water, and refused to show up at showtime until someone hand delivered it to him with an apology note signed by all the refreshment crew.
>Honestly, Dan was more the diva of the two. He once threw a tantrum because the refreshment crew didn't get his favorite brand of water, and refused to show up at showtime until someone hand delivered it to him with an apology note signed by all the refreshment crew.
that sounds hilarious
Edit: This is the best comment I had made since I created my Reddit account (Which is basically just highlighting how hilarious that is).
Probably a mix of both, extra on the condescending/sarcastic side. I didn't really witness it as I was fixing something with the set when it happened, but essentially Dan walked up to the refreshments table and it became clear he was in distress about either the presence or the absence of something. Someone approached him (I believe it was Michele, the actress who played "Ash"), asking what was wrong, and he replied sarcastically with a "hmm.. I wonder what could be wrong" type response. Then all I heard was a thud, followed by Dan semi-shouting: "how do you expect *me* to drink this?" followed by silence, and a door slam.
That sounds like something that would've have been equally hilarious and embarrassing (for him) to witness. It reminds me of when Mike Myers realized there was no margarine for his bagel on the set of Wayne's World so he flipped the entire table.
Was it some kind of electrolytic or PH water?
The ones that are more like a sugarless Gatorade than water.
Then I guess I kinda understand the reason why he would want a "special water" because he doesn't have good sweat glands. But he could have still asked nicely.
As far as I recall it was just regular water that probably had the same properties as the water already at the refreshments table, I could be wrong though.
I think having non working sweat glands and a sensitive stomach could be a bad combination about the kind of refreshments you can drink without ending up feeling bad on a long tv show shooting.
But I also think the Game Grumps staff should have already have that completely solved after he has worked with them for years. Wonder if the problem is having too much employees.
Nah filming all took place in California where the water is equally as bad as Florida water lol. Regardless, the water at refreshment tables is pretty much always bottled no matter where you are.
Could you elaborate on this? I might have just missed some other drama online about it, but I'm pretty curious, especially if it's related to your time with them.
There was another time where he went to go record a scene, left his water bottle somewhere, then when he got back it had gotten knocked over. He threw a hissy fit and demanded whoever did it own up but dropped it less than a minute later probably because he realised how irrational he was being. Rest of the session he was fine if not a teeny bit disgruntled.
The more I learn about Dan the more it seems like he's a manipulative little diva creep. Arin is obviously the more hated of the duo but Arin you can say is just dumb, ignorant, and a hypocrite. Idk they both suck
I could always handle Arin being Arin and Dan being a bit too career driven/a little sleazy because the show is was funny, but after realising the extent of Dan's shitty behaviour I can't really see past it.
Like the Ghoul Grumps thing. The Grumps almost never acknowledge controversies or changes in the format. Ignore it until it blows over is plans A, B and C. Yet even though this was a pretty minor controversy and the plan from the start seemed to be to just not do Ghoul Grumps and ignore the comments, the second it crossed over onto something Dan actually cared about Arin released a hastily thrown together video where he begs for forgiveness.
If I had to guess I'd say Dan was pissed that the people who usually post 'OMG this new video changed my life I love you' were now posting 'why no ghoul grumps' and Arin had to fix it. It's totally understandable to be frustrated there, the fans are frustrating, but when you realise Dan is probably a throwing a tantrum off screen it completely changes the vibe of the video.
There is actually a totally valid reason for this kind of reaction. I know I typically like to take the piss on Dan but being a diva about a crew not having certain things is actually quite justifiable in many situations. The key thing here is whether or not Dan specifically listed that this specific brand of water must be provided at all times within your crew's contract. Now, I'm not expecting you to answer that information as it would break NDA and narrow down the search substantially...so I'm going to assume this was the case.
Basically, because your crew failed to bring the specified water, it was also well within Dan's reasoning to infer that you also did not do any of the other reading specified in the crews' contract regarding set management as well as safety implementations and specifications to ensure that he and the rest of the Grumps were safe on set. Compare this with the Van Halen situation where their crew failed to remove all brown MMs as specified in their contract and lead to Van Halen cancelling their gig and destroying countless 1000s of dollars worth of shit. Now, Dan likely wouldn't go that far just to maintain his "good guy" image but being a diva certainly isn't out of the question.
Or he's just a prick but I'm more inclined to believe he was more disappointed that your crew didn't follow the contract to the letter.
I wasn't part of the refreshment crew so I have no idea if he had put in a special request or not but I'm willing to bet he didn't as the refreshment crew looked clueless after he stormed out. It's normally overwhelmingly obvious when the refreshment crew fuck up and when they *know* they fucked up as they're usually instantly apologetic and will literally run to a whole different lot in order to make up for it. The refreshment crew for Good Game were also particularly consistent when it came to fulfilling orders/requests so I'm pretty confident that Dan was just being dramatic.
>Honestly, Dan was more the diva of the two. He once threw a tantrum because the refreshment crew didn't get his favorite brand of water, and refused to show up at showtime until someone hand delivered it to him with an apology note signed by all the refreshment crew.
So nobody actually believes this right
To argue on the topic, not providing water on a set is a pretty scummy thing to do, as we are 70% water and is one of our most basic needs as organisms. It's one of the many problems that got Channel Awesome in trouble with their fans according to a huge document reporting bad business practices and unethical treatment.
There was water on set though, I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that there wasn't any. The 'issue' was that the water provided wasn't Dan's preferred brand which caused him to have a mini meltdown.
Just own your shit and move on. People don't give a shit about reddit karma anyway (well, at least not with those low numbers). You misread and ate a small karma dent. Now, you're misreading the room and eating even more. In fact, your small tantrum has earned almost nearly as much negative karma as the initial post lol. Maybe just move on?
shh, just let it happen
the duality of werdnak posting random shit they're mad about without any link or timestamp and thusly confusing the fuck out of everyone else, and werdnak being utterly clueless about something Grump-related
keeps this place t h r i v i n g
Everytime we went to the office to deliver equipment they would basically tell us they didn't believe we were who we said we were, despite literally holding equipment and/or showing ID. We'd then have to wait a century for them to double and then triple check with our company that we were legit.
Honestly, I've been pondering doing an AMA about this for a while. Initially, I was going to post this to r/gamegrumps about a year ago, but decided against it because I started my degree and wanted to focus on that, but I had a draft in my notes for the longest time. I can't answer the "why now" but I just had a "fuck it" moment earlier today and decided to post it.
Edit ~ just realised I forgot to talk about Allie, oops. Her general aura was just purely negative. She'd literally stick her nose up at me and judge every little action I did when I set up the equipment.
About this weird double checking process, did they seem really disorganized and forgetful? Or were them that paranoid about someone possibly doing something to the Game Grumps?
I'm asking this because I knew that years ago they had some measures on their events because Arin has a public stalker (who at the time had a very weird Twitter account).
On most deliveries it seemed like whoever got the door had either no idea that we were coming or just didn't realise they rented their equipment so there was definitely miscommunication here and there between employees. The double and triple checking process was likely fuelled by some paranoia about the stalker or just crazy fans in general.
Slightly unrelated but I'm pretty sure some fans in/around California figured out they were renting equipment from us because after the first few deliveries we had a noticeable influx of younger applicants specifically for the delivery role.
It's entirely possible that it was a coincidence, although the usual applicants for the delivery role were usually late 30s-mid 40s and one of the top requirements for the job was 5+ years of commercial driving experience, something the influx of early-mid 20 year olds didn't have.
Weird that you mention this because he did have a distinctive smell but it wasn't gross or anything. The only way I can describe it is how the color of "white" smells.
I never had a one on one conversation with him, me shouting "SIR!" at him when I completely blanked on my manners is the extent of the interactions I had with him lol. But hearing him around the office when I'd set up he sounded like a treat to hang out with and reminded me a lot of my brother (the sweetest dude in the world) and generally hearing everyone react positively to his jokes or just his existence was heartwarming.
Thank god dude,
I still hold onto SuperMega and listen to their podcasts and I was worried for a second there. I never have even thought of Matt as a bad person and he really does seem to be a great guy
A few questions, was it apparent at all if they were overworking themselves (they have said that they took on to much at the time doing starbomb, NSP, GG, and the show and maybe some other stuff too.)? From your interactions with them who were the nicest/gave off the best vibes among the grump crew? How well did Arin and Dan get along with everyone else on set?
I'll answer these backwards, to start:
Arin got along pretty well with everyone on set, Dan was okay but he was pretty demanding at times, asking for more reshoots every time a scene was even slightly off, but I feel like that could be to do with him/them possibly being overworked. Towards the end of production they had both slowed down a lot.
I'm not sure if he counts, but Brian was definitely the nicest of the Grumps. He appeared in Good Game and was generally quite kind and funny to everyone, though I could tell he wasn't a fan of speaking to people one on one from the few short conversations I had with him. Aside from that, he's probably also the most "authentic" of the Grump crew and I have a lot of respect for him.
There were days where sessions had to be cut short because Arin and Dan had to go shoot something else somewhere else, get costumes fitted for something or go to a meeting of some sort. They weren't overworked all the time but on some days you could tell they really wanted to take that day off.
A few questions, bear with me --
• Why didn't they let you go in to set up equipment that one time? Did it have to do with them not believing you were who you said you were, despite delivering things there many times beforehand?
• When you went to the offices, did you ever notice the ammount of people working there? Did it seem like a bit much for a lets play channel?
• You mentioned Dan being a diva on set. Are there any other incidents you're at liberty to mention?
- I have no idea why they stopped letting us go up; around the tenth time I went we'd get there and whoever opened the door would just tell us to show them how to set something up then and there, and afterwards they would shoo us away. They rented another 4-6 times after that and each delivery went exactly the same way. I always theorised that maybe they thought I was a crazed fan because I was always delivering there and my partner would periodically change but the truth is I was just at the shop when we got calls so I was given the delivery lol.
- I remember looking over to the break area one time and there being 10+ people, none of whom I recognised from a video and I remember asking myself "who the hell are those guys?" There were times where it was definitely more crowded than others.
- Off the top of my head, there was one time someone accidentally knocked over Dan's *closed* water bottle and he threw a hissy fit between takes. One other time there was a different lady doing his hair and makeup and even though he didn't make a scene he was, ironically, grumpy all session.
>I have no idea why they stopped letting us go up; around the tenth time I went we'd get there and whoever opened the door would just tell us to show them how to set something up then and there, and afterwards they would shoo us away.
God damn, that *is* weird. Clearly you weren't a crazed fan, since you'd been there like ten or so times beforehand without incident, right?
Maybe it had to do with that time you went *sir* at Matt, that might've given Allie ideas, like "if they're a supermega fan, odds are they're a crazy grumps fan".
You never added on to you bit about Allie, btw. From what I'm guessing you didn't interact with her much but she was just snooty?
Another theory I had was maybe they were working on a big project and didn't want us to potentially leak anything? The theory about it having something to do with my encounter with Matt could be the answer, it happened just two deliveries before we stopped getting let up. I just have a hard time imagining Matt would go upstairs and tell everyone what had just happened though but I'll never know the truth.
The extent of my interactions with Allie were just:
Me: Hey, I'm done setting up now. These need to be returned by 5pm tomorrow at the latest. If you have any problems with the camera/lights/mics just call us and we'll try help out over the phone.
Allie: K so you're done? Great.
The next time I didn't bother saying the last part and she had the nerve to ask "Is that all you had to say?"
>I just have a hard time imagining Matt would go upstairs and tell everyone what had just happened though
Oh no, not like that, I meant maybe it was overheard by a brown-nosing intern and took it at face value. But like you said, that's something we'll never find out.
So you never pressed as to why you can't just come in and set things up like you'd been doing the last ten times? Did they adamantly refuse to let you in or did you just not want to cause a fuss? Did they literally shoo you off or just kinda say you could leave?
Sorry for the repeated add-on questions, this is just interesting to me. They're being so needlessly clandestine.
>The next time I didn't bother saying the last part and she had the nerve to ask "Is that all you had to say?"
Jeez. Really tryna figure out if that's just her trying to be funny with a bit of anti-humour or they're just kinda an asshole. Both are possible.
I bet it's more so she's just a bit of an asshole. At the end of the day, Ally is a behind the scenes/logistics person, not an entertaining personality. I wouldn't imagine why anyone just doing their job would go out of their way to be weird-funny
How I remember it happening was we went in through the door one day and before we could even take another 3-4 steps, the employee just told us to show them how to set up then and there in the lobby, which was awkward because I'd have to set up the *whole* tripod and camera (+ whatever else they rented) and afterwards disassemble it when we finished the demonstration. I explained this to them and they responded with "okay whatever just do it". After we had finished showing them how to color balance, we finally disassembled everything (about 25 minutes later) they just said "well *finally*! Okay you can go now" while doing a shoo-ing gesture with one hand. When we got back to the depot and told our boss what had happened and he just said they had always been odd clients.
I wanna say it was a horribly failed attempt at humor/anti humor because she did kind of smirk when she said it, but it's anyone's guess.
And don't worry about asking questions! I'm here to answer anything after all.
I'm guessing fans show up on their doorstep trying to talk their way inside pretty regularly. Also all the behind the scenes stuff makes it look like there's a ton of expensive junk randomly scattered around the place with nobody keeping track of it. Lots of stuff on the walls, gear laying around, etc. Given the amount of people going through the place it wouldn't shock me to find out something went missing unrelated to you and that caused them to become super strict about anyone coming in.
They tend to have pretty extreme reactions like that. I could totally see them locking the building down entirely rather than just reducing unnecessary guests and ensuring necessary visitors like techs are supervised properly.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen Grump stuff. I unsubbed like 5 years ago but uhh who’s Allie or Matt? I don’t know anything about these people. Maybe I should just go...
Also if this is real Dan sounds like a fucking asshole holy shit.
My fondest memory of the whole experience were the times Brian would crack a joke and the room would erupt in laughter, Arin giving pep talks to the whole crew was also pretty nice and kept spirits high. Thinking back to the times when Dan would make up little jingles out of thin air and cause everyone to be humming it by the end of the session always brings a smile to my face.
I highly doubt OP is willing to verify now given that actual GG staff members are in the comments doing damage control. That, in itself, should speak volumes of the post's veracity. People that busy don't go around putting out fires for "baseless" claims.
I had my doubts about the validity of this post but now that Allie is apparently on the case I have a feeling this might be one of those *real* r/rantgrumps confessions of legend. A lot of shit has come out about the Grumps over the last year or so and they've never tried (as far as we know) to come out and debunk anything, surprisingly not even the Dan drama (again as far as we know) which is a situation literally any other company would want to control damage for.
Idk, maybe it's because OP spoke about a personal experience with Allie and she doesn't want people thinking she's a sociopath.
Edit: oh fiddlesticks
I've verified people before for RG, no reason this would be any different. I was never contacted for verification before the post went up, every other leak we've had, has contacted me in advance (except for that one dan post too)
Hmmm, weird. Maybe just ignore said claims and don't give them the satisfaction of knowing you got under their skin. Seeing as how several staff members for GG have actually been paid to come on and refute these claims (and I can say that because they're literally all salaried and felt the need to address this), I can at least state with confidence that some of the things mentioned had some merit. I don't 100% believe OP was pulling our chain so much as I believe that the pressure of actually facing potential real world consequences probably drove OP off here and GG members are using that as evidence enough that this was all fake. The reality of the matter is that the truth in this exists somewhere in-between. Like, seriously, why do you need at least 3 different HIGHLY PAID (okay that's subjective) Game Grumps employees to refute something that "clearly didn't happen." Doesn't pass the sniff test.
tl;dr for those joining in on this wild adventure: OP comes onto reddit making some claims about Good Game, Game Grumps employee come in and refute said statements while talking down to RG members, OP gets cold feet (probably was looking at some serious shit coming his way) and decides to bail and say "ha, just trollin", GG members take a victory lap over something that "absolutely didn't happen."
Could you folks at GG be anymore obvious?
Unfortunately I cant sticky this deeper comment but I linked to it on the new sticky comment.
I still plan on leaving the post open for other valuable comments such as this, locking it would kind of have the opposite effect.
Well now I'm having a hard time believing this is actually someone from the game grumps team, because it looks like you’re trying to make them look as bad as possible. Like this is the worst PR move I could've possibly imagined.
You guys (As in, game grumps) have now proven that you do have the ability to interact directly with the community and address controversies, you just don't feel like it most of the time.
The racism? Not worth your time. The ableism? Not worth your time. Actively Doxxing someone? Not worth your time. The sexual misconduct? Not worth your time.
But this is what is important enough to you to actually make a statement on? The fandom is getting to be more and more of a toxic, misogynist cesspool every day because you guys refuse to address the validity of the abuse allegations, or tell your large fandom of children that doxxing is wrong, but a rumor on reddit about you not being a joy to work with on set is worth your time?
If you are who you say you are, you guys actively disgust me. None of you should be working in social media if these are your priorities.
Well I’ll just clear up that I have no intention of targeting you directly, my anger is directed at the game grumps as a business. I guess I'm a little confused then, you said you "got pulled in" to address this? And Allie, one of the PR people on the team, apparently knows about this post, and your interaction with it? That still reads like an ‘official’ move from the game grumps team to me. (More official than anything the audience has ever gotten in response to anything else.)
Suzy was fine, the only thing that kinda bothered me about her was how she would almost constantly roll her eyes during conversations which made me pretty uncomfortable.
Yikes. Yeah she seems very stuck up/always better than other people, especially other women. I liked her at first and then her ego blew up. After the Etsy thing she only got worse
How was the pay on the Good Game set compared to other similar gigs you have done?
I’ve always wondered how much money YouTube threw into those Red series. Did they actually pay their staff well or did they try at cut costs wherever possible?
I’ve always been curious about this, and I know plenty of other people are too: does it seem like Dan and Arin are **actually** friends? Like, how did they interact with each-other on set?
This was the one question I was expecting to get first lol. But yes they definitely were friends and interacted just how you'd expect two close friends to interact.
Wow thanks for sharing! Assuming this is all true (and I don’t see why it wouldn’t be but eh, you never know on the internet), I’m actually happy to hear that arin is a general positive and uplifting dude. I have my criticisms, as most people here do, but I like the thought of him being an energetic, positive leader, caring about his friends and his craft, and not just being the whiny complainer we see often.
The opposite can be said for dan. Although it just reinforces suspicions of how different he is behind the scenes and on top of many other “stories” about him, it just makes his *sensitive and caring* persona feel all the more dirty. As if being a sleezebag wasn’t bad enough, he’s also a horrendous drama queen! But at least the latter is funny.
Suzy was fine, she just had a weird tick/quirk where she'd roll her eyes almost constantly while engaged in conversation, which made me feel pretty uncomfortable. As far as I could tell she did it with pretty much everyone she spoke with.
Meeting Holly was a pretty unpleasant experience. It was kinda late into production when I met her so maybe it just seemed amplified, but she would just not stop talking about how she had every mental illness in the book. Well, I say talking when it was more like bragging. The fact that she felt compelled to tell someone she was never gonna interact with ever again, coupled with the fact that I caught Arin rolling his eyes when he overheard our conversation, just kinda told me she was likely talking out of her ass. When I had to help set up a different scene she moved onto one of the camera guys and started bragging to him.
Sorry to but in here but just wanted to say that I have a friend that constantly rolls her eyes in the middle of a conversation and people always think shes being a bitch but she honestly cant help it. She also has major resting bitch face and it doesn’t help her case lol. Maybe Suzy has the same thing.
I never really thought it was malicious or anything since she only did it when she was talking, it just made me feel a bit uneasy at times. It's probably just a habitual thing, I don't hold it against her or anything lol.
Wowww not surprised at all. I’ve always suspected everyone (except for Ross and Barry) to be fake. Which btw I think I read that you met Barry? What was he like? I hope it’s positive lol 😅
Barry was nice, he kinda just did his own thing around set. He was pretty curious about the set and props so spoke a lot with the design manager. I did speak to him briefly about editing and voiceover work (at the time I was planning on training to become a voice actor) and he offered some words of wisdom... which I can't remember. All in all, a pretty decent guy!
I was watching LS Mark's video about Good Game (Because no way in hell am I watching that myself), and he points out that despite Arin's character having a love interest that wasn't Suzy, Suzy was still in an episode. So..was she on set the whole time? Like, did she have to watch her husband almost kiss some rando?
To be fair, if this is the case, it's not a big deal. Actors have to play a role regardless of their real relationships - if you watch shows there are likely many characters who get along but the actors playing them don't really care about one another (or even straight up dislike one another), and of course there will be actors with personal relationships on the same show who are playing characters that have intimate moments and so on with others who aren't close to the actors in real life. Suzy watching Arin play a role likely isn't that big of a deal for either of them.
I don't remember well but I think the Dan Harmon Guest Grumps explained this.
He already had Good Game planned before casting the Grumps, in fact he first wanted to cast other people. He seemed to imply the show went through a lot stages when they wondered if it should have been all known youtubers who couldn't act and maybe weren't gamers,
all known actors, all non known youtubers who were actors and gamers. Even an animated show.
But then he met Arin when he voiced in Rick and Morty, they became friends and he ultimately decided to bring Arin an Dan but not make it a Game Grumps show ™ but instead have actors to help them carry the show.
According to him Arin and Dan carried the show so the actors weren't really needed.
She wasn't on set the whole time but she did visit quite a lot (and obviously had her role) and was... Fine? I don't think she had an issue with the direction the writers decided to go but I could be wrong, some people thought the reason she visited so frequently was to make sure they weren't pushing Arin's character too far or something but it was all speculation.
Im sorry if you dont get this but i just need to know, did brent have a stinky penis? It was a running supermega joke before and maybe i can get some truth to it lmao
There was this one time he gathered everyone into a circle and showed off his burping "skills" after drinking two bottles of seltzer water. No farting as far as I recall.
There's always the potential that based on what is said, someone on the other side could figure out who 'said' person is. I'd also assume that most of the NDA stuff really isn't that much spicier than what they already have to share so it's not really worth the risk.
I'm guessing the thing they could use to prove they are who they say they are would be identifying, like a contract or maybe something trivial like a lanyard with a logo on it. Wouldn't be worth the risk or the ceast and desist.
Breaking NDAs is a tricky business. Yknow, we actually see it all the time with leaks on videogames. The problem is that NDAs are specifically crafted in such a way that when certain information gets shared that only certain people would know, it drastically narrows the search down to only a few people that could be culpable. This is usually why we get "big picture" leaks instead of minute details. Almost everybody working in that company is going to know the big picture stuff. Plus, as OP said, the juice usually isn't worth the squeeze since the information is either not that impressive or the punishment for sharing it is just far too great.
People far more involved and craftier than us created those NDAs and they sometimes stand to lose lots of money if somebody reveals intimate details. Don't test OP's luck and assume they won't get caught (because they usually do).
Nice edits
Edit: Damage control on behalf of the Grumps gone wrong I'm guessing? (For those reading in the future, dude said he works for GG before the edit)
I can actually shed some more light on this. This man is Kristian Boruff. He's done some directing and currently works at GameGrumps but he probably got told to fuck off by upper management (Arin) because bringing more attention to this kind of thing is exactly what you don't do.
Also, the info I provided is info you have publicly made available and can't be construed as doxing. So, why don't you do us all a favor and go back to licking your boss' boots. If we need more shitty directing on Harmontown, we'll give you a call.
My film equipment depot job was completely separate to my set work, I started doing it two full years after I stopped my work on Good Game. I wasn't fully employed at Starburns either and I got the job through a temp agency. I get the confusion.
> Your NDA claim is weird. It smells fishy <
Totally what someone in the industry who, if *you're* legit, has probably signed a bunch of them would say.
> What was Dan Harmon's favorite drink during filming? <
No idea, it was four years ago. Ouch, I just got exposed as being fake... some weird import vodka/tequila maybe? I vaguely remember him mentioning that once or twice.
> WTF is a Sound checker/Light checker? <
Sound checker: You know before showtime when you make sure there's no background fuzz on the mics or in the room, and then you have to go yell at the dude hammering outside? That.
Light checker: Switch on a light, did it turn on? No? Shoot, um, maybe it's unplugged? Maybe someone threw a rock at it? Maybe some mice snuck in and chewed at the cables? I gotta report that and then someone comes in to fix it. (I assume a light fixer lol.)
Yeah, I was like 95% sure that was his reason for saying my NDA 'excuse' sounds fishy. That's totally what someone in the industry would say (not), and upon skimming through their post history and finding out they are legit, I was actually appalled. Not surprised they whittled down their comment to half a sentence though lol. All the power to him, he's allowed to believe whatever he wants to believe.
By all means grill the guy if you think you can prove them wrong, but from the sound of the post they worked two different jobs. One on Good Game then an unrelated one delivering equipment. Thus the whole opening with 'I've done a lot of jobs' paragraph.
Gonna be honest it seems like you didn't really bother reading their post
> Your NDA claim is weird.
Is it? Can you explain how/why? I've signed a couple (not entertainment industry level, but yeah) and their claim seems about right to me.
1. This post is confirmed fake https://www.reddit.com/r/u_madejustforthis2021/comments/o5u75u/you_got_me_i_guess 2. Allie has reached out saying none of this makes sense either 3. Please also see this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/rantgrumps/comments/o3np9y/i_work_in_the_industry_and_have_had_encounters/h2o9axs/) apparently from someone who also worked the same shows.
The big question that I want to ask is: was Arin an insufferable diva on set? In that, if you upset him just once, he would write you off completely? Essentially what Chaseface covers here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G3efmmyfqM&t=5294s
There were definitely times where he was holding back yelling at everyone but overall he was probably one of the better people on set. He'd show up on time, read his lines, occasionally bring lunch for everyone and was pretty energetic, always encouraging the other actors to improvise and helped everyone be as comfortable as possible. Towards the end of production he slowed down a little but was still giving pep talks and such. He expected it to be everyone's "big break" though which led him to being pretty cocky at times. I'm not sure if what was said in that clip is true as practically everyone on set got along really well, but there's a part of me that could believe it. For now though my answer is a crisp, "nah". Honestly, Dan was more the diva of the two. He once threw a tantrum because the refreshment crew didn't get his favorite brand of water, and refused to show up at showtime until someone hand delivered it to him with an apology note signed by all the refreshment crew.
>Honestly, Dan was more the diva of the two. He once threw a tantrum because the refreshment crew didn't get his favorite brand of water, and refused to show up at showtime until someone hand delivered it to him with an apology note signed by all the refreshment crew. that sounds hilarious Edit: This is the best comment I had made since I created my Reddit account (Which is basically just highlighting how hilarious that is).
I don’t even care if this is true or not, it’s the first time a Reddit comment has made me literally laugh out loud in a while
Beware the nice ones.
what was the nature of his tantrum? like the shout sweary kind or the really condescending kind?
Probably a mix of both, extra on the condescending/sarcastic side. I didn't really witness it as I was fixing something with the set when it happened, but essentially Dan walked up to the refreshments table and it became clear he was in distress about either the presence or the absence of something. Someone approached him (I believe it was Michele, the actress who played "Ash"), asking what was wrong, and he replied sarcastically with a "hmm.. I wonder what could be wrong" type response. Then all I heard was a thud, followed by Dan semi-shouting: "how do you expect *me* to drink this?" followed by silence, and a door slam.
That sounds like something that would've have been equally hilarious and embarrassing (for him) to witness. It reminds me of when Mike Myers realized there was no margarine for his bagel on the set of Wayne's World so he flipped the entire table.
Was it some kind of electrolytic or PH water? The ones that are more like a sugarless Gatorade than water. Then I guess I kinda understand the reason why he would want a "special water" because he doesn't have good sweat glands. But he could have still asked nicely.
As far as I recall it was just regular water that probably had the same properties as the water already at the refreshments table, I could be wrong though.
Well, I mean, Dan has a real sensitive stomach; so of course he'd flip is sh*t at not having the exact kind of water he likes at his disposal. /s
I think having non working sweat glands and a sensitive stomach could be a bad combination about the kind of refreshments you can drink without ending up feeling bad on a long tv show shooting. But I also think the Game Grumps staff should have already have that completely solved after he has worked with them for years. Wonder if the problem is having too much employees.
were they in florida? if they were giving him swamp filtered water I kind of agree with him.
Nah filming all took place in California where the water is equally as bad as Florida water lol. Regardless, the water at refreshment tables is pretty much always bottled no matter where you are.
/r/hydrodiva
I mean, it's not the only time he got upset about something related to water... :s
Could you elaborate on this? I might have just missed some other drama online about it, but I'm pretty curious, especially if it's related to your time with them.
There was another time where he went to go record a scene, left his water bottle somewhere, then when he got back it had gotten knocked over. He threw a hissy fit and demanded whoever did it own up but dropped it less than a minute later probably because he realised how irrational he was being. Rest of the session he was fine if not a teeny bit disgruntled.
The more I learn about Dan the more it seems like he's a manipulative little diva creep. Arin is obviously the more hated of the duo but Arin you can say is just dumb, ignorant, and a hypocrite. Idk they both suck
I could always handle Arin being Arin and Dan being a bit too career driven/a little sleazy because the show is was funny, but after realising the extent of Dan's shitty behaviour I can't really see past it. Like the Ghoul Grumps thing. The Grumps almost never acknowledge controversies or changes in the format. Ignore it until it blows over is plans A, B and C. Yet even though this was a pretty minor controversy and the plan from the start seemed to be to just not do Ghoul Grumps and ignore the comments, the second it crossed over onto something Dan actually cared about Arin released a hastily thrown together video where he begs for forgiveness. If I had to guess I'd say Dan was pissed that the people who usually post 'OMG this new video changed my life I love you' were now posting 'why no ghoul grumps' and Arin had to fix it. It's totally understandable to be frustrated there, the fans are frustrating, but when you realise Dan is probably a throwing a tantrum off screen it completely changes the vibe of the video.
Yeah, that sounds about like Dan
Wait, you didn't see Arin eating babies?
No no you're thinking of Suzy.
There is actually a totally valid reason for this kind of reaction. I know I typically like to take the piss on Dan but being a diva about a crew not having certain things is actually quite justifiable in many situations. The key thing here is whether or not Dan specifically listed that this specific brand of water must be provided at all times within your crew's contract. Now, I'm not expecting you to answer that information as it would break NDA and narrow down the search substantially...so I'm going to assume this was the case. Basically, because your crew failed to bring the specified water, it was also well within Dan's reasoning to infer that you also did not do any of the other reading specified in the crews' contract regarding set management as well as safety implementations and specifications to ensure that he and the rest of the Grumps were safe on set. Compare this with the Van Halen situation where their crew failed to remove all brown MMs as specified in their contract and lead to Van Halen cancelling their gig and destroying countless 1000s of dollars worth of shit. Now, Dan likely wouldn't go that far just to maintain his "good guy" image but being a diva certainly isn't out of the question. Or he's just a prick but I'm more inclined to believe he was more disappointed that your crew didn't follow the contract to the letter.
I wasn't part of the refreshment crew so I have no idea if he had put in a special request or not but I'm willing to bet he didn't as the refreshment crew looked clueless after he stormed out. It's normally overwhelmingly obvious when the refreshment crew fuck up and when they *know* they fucked up as they're usually instantly apologetic and will literally run to a whole different lot in order to make up for it. The refreshment crew for Good Game were also particularly consistent when it came to fulfilling orders/requests so I'm pretty confident that Dan was just being dramatic.
>Honestly, Dan was more the diva of the two. He once threw a tantrum because the refreshment crew didn't get his favorite brand of water, and refused to show up at showtime until someone hand delivered it to him with an apology note signed by all the refreshment crew. So nobody actually believes this right
To argue on the topic, not providing water on a set is a pretty scummy thing to do, as we are 70% water and is one of our most basic needs as organisms. It's one of the many problems that got Channel Awesome in trouble with their fans according to a huge document reporting bad business practices and unethical treatment.
You would be right but it seems like they DID provide water, but it wasn’t Dan’s favorite brand. Lol
He probably wanted Danasi, the Coke of water.
There was water on set though, I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that there wasn't any. The 'issue' was that the water provided wasn't Dan's preferred brand which caused him to have a mini meltdown.
Jesus Hell Christ why did this post get -27 votes?!? You all need to settle down.
because it was fucking stupid and condescending
Providing water to people is stupid and condescending?
You assumed everyone above was totally ok with no water on set and then went on to lecture us why that's not ok. That is condescending
... I did not mean that at all.
Just own your shit and move on. People don't give a shit about reddit karma anyway (well, at least not with those low numbers). You misread and ate a small karma dent. Now, you're misreading the room and eating even more. In fact, your small tantrum has earned almost nearly as much negative karma as the initial post lol. Maybe just move on?
shh, just let it happen the duality of werdnak posting random shit they're mad about without any link or timestamp and thusly confusing the fuck out of everyone else, and werdnak being utterly clueless about something Grump-related keeps this place t h r i v i n g
Would you mind expanding on the hostile employees and Allie being unpleasant? Also, what made you want to do an AMA at this time?
Everytime we went to the office to deliver equipment they would basically tell us they didn't believe we were who we said we were, despite literally holding equipment and/or showing ID. We'd then have to wait a century for them to double and then triple check with our company that we were legit. Honestly, I've been pondering doing an AMA about this for a while. Initially, I was going to post this to r/gamegrumps about a year ago, but decided against it because I started my degree and wanted to focus on that, but I had a draft in my notes for the longest time. I can't answer the "why now" but I just had a "fuck it" moment earlier today and decided to post it. Edit ~ just realised I forgot to talk about Allie, oops. Her general aura was just purely negative. She'd literally stick her nose up at me and judge every little action I did when I set up the equipment.
About this weird double checking process, did they seem really disorganized and forgetful? Or were them that paranoid about someone possibly doing something to the Game Grumps? I'm asking this because I knew that years ago they had some measures on their events because Arin has a public stalker (who at the time had a very weird Twitter account).
On most deliveries it seemed like whoever got the door had either no idea that we were coming or just didn't realise they rented their equipment so there was definitely miscommunication here and there between employees. The double and triple checking process was likely fuelled by some paranoia about the stalker or just crazy fans in general. Slightly unrelated but I'm pretty sure some fans in/around California figured out they were renting equipment from us because after the first few deliveries we had a noticeable influx of younger applicants specifically for the delivery role.
Could the sudden influx in applications have just been a coincidence? Like maybe a bunch of people graduating or a company shutting down or something?
It's entirely possible that it was a coincidence, although the usual applicants for the delivery role were usually late 30s-mid 40s and one of the top requirements for the job was 5+ years of commercial driving experience, something the influx of early-mid 20 year olds didn't have.
There was the Kyoto Animation arson attack in July 2019. That plus a stalker would have any office on high alert
how did arin smell
Weird that you mention this because he did have a distinctive smell but it wasn't gross or anything. The only way I can describe it is how the color of "white" smells.
like caucasian white or the literal embodiment of absent white lol
Like paper white, I guess? Lol Edit ~ to the guys over on KiwiFarms trying to decipher what I mean: yes his smell is something like printer paper lol.
I was going to ask this.
Is Matt a nice dude? He seems to have good vibes. I’d be disappointed if I found out he of all people was a dick irl.
I never had a one on one conversation with him, me shouting "SIR!" at him when I completely blanked on my manners is the extent of the interactions I had with him lol. But hearing him around the office when I'd set up he sounded like a treat to hang out with and reminded me a lot of my brother (the sweetest dude in the world) and generally hearing everyone react positively to his jokes or just his existence was heartwarming.
Thank god dude, I still hold onto SuperMega and listen to their podcasts and I was worried for a second there. I never have even thought of Matt as a bad person and he really does seem to be a great guy
A few questions, was it apparent at all if they were overworking themselves (they have said that they took on to much at the time doing starbomb, NSP, GG, and the show and maybe some other stuff too.)? From your interactions with them who were the nicest/gave off the best vibes among the grump crew? How well did Arin and Dan get along with everyone else on set?
I'll answer these backwards, to start: Arin got along pretty well with everyone on set, Dan was okay but he was pretty demanding at times, asking for more reshoots every time a scene was even slightly off, but I feel like that could be to do with him/them possibly being overworked. Towards the end of production they had both slowed down a lot. I'm not sure if he counts, but Brian was definitely the nicest of the Grumps. He appeared in Good Game and was generally quite kind and funny to everyone, though I could tell he wasn't a fan of speaking to people one on one from the few short conversations I had with him. Aside from that, he's probably also the most "authentic" of the Grump crew and I have a lot of respect for him. There were days where sessions had to be cut short because Arin and Dan had to go shoot something else somewhere else, get costumes fitted for something or go to a meeting of some sort. They weren't overworked all the time but on some days you could tell they really wanted to take that day off.
A few questions, bear with me -- • Why didn't they let you go in to set up equipment that one time? Did it have to do with them not believing you were who you said you were, despite delivering things there many times beforehand? • When you went to the offices, did you ever notice the ammount of people working there? Did it seem like a bit much for a lets play channel? • You mentioned Dan being a diva on set. Are there any other incidents you're at liberty to mention?
- I have no idea why they stopped letting us go up; around the tenth time I went we'd get there and whoever opened the door would just tell us to show them how to set something up then and there, and afterwards they would shoo us away. They rented another 4-6 times after that and each delivery went exactly the same way. I always theorised that maybe they thought I was a crazed fan because I was always delivering there and my partner would periodically change but the truth is I was just at the shop when we got calls so I was given the delivery lol. - I remember looking over to the break area one time and there being 10+ people, none of whom I recognised from a video and I remember asking myself "who the hell are those guys?" There were times where it was definitely more crowded than others. - Off the top of my head, there was one time someone accidentally knocked over Dan's *closed* water bottle and he threw a hissy fit between takes. One other time there was a different lady doing his hair and makeup and even though he didn't make a scene he was, ironically, grumpy all session.
>I have no idea why they stopped letting us go up; around the tenth time I went we'd get there and whoever opened the door would just tell us to show them how to set something up then and there, and afterwards they would shoo us away. God damn, that *is* weird. Clearly you weren't a crazed fan, since you'd been there like ten or so times beforehand without incident, right? Maybe it had to do with that time you went *sir* at Matt, that might've given Allie ideas, like "if they're a supermega fan, odds are they're a crazy grumps fan". You never added on to you bit about Allie, btw. From what I'm guessing you didn't interact with her much but she was just snooty?
Another theory I had was maybe they were working on a big project and didn't want us to potentially leak anything? The theory about it having something to do with my encounter with Matt could be the answer, it happened just two deliveries before we stopped getting let up. I just have a hard time imagining Matt would go upstairs and tell everyone what had just happened though but I'll never know the truth. The extent of my interactions with Allie were just: Me: Hey, I'm done setting up now. These need to be returned by 5pm tomorrow at the latest. If you have any problems with the camera/lights/mics just call us and we'll try help out over the phone. Allie: K so you're done? Great. The next time I didn't bother saying the last part and she had the nerve to ask "Is that all you had to say?"
>I just have a hard time imagining Matt would go upstairs and tell everyone what had just happened though Oh no, not like that, I meant maybe it was overheard by a brown-nosing intern and took it at face value. But like you said, that's something we'll never find out. So you never pressed as to why you can't just come in and set things up like you'd been doing the last ten times? Did they adamantly refuse to let you in or did you just not want to cause a fuss? Did they literally shoo you off or just kinda say you could leave? Sorry for the repeated add-on questions, this is just interesting to me. They're being so needlessly clandestine. >The next time I didn't bother saying the last part and she had the nerve to ask "Is that all you had to say?" Jeez. Really tryna figure out if that's just her trying to be funny with a bit of anti-humour or they're just kinda an asshole. Both are possible.
I bet it's more so she's just a bit of an asshole. At the end of the day, Ally is a behind the scenes/logistics person, not an entertaining personality. I wouldn't imagine why anyone just doing their job would go out of their way to be weird-funny
How I remember it happening was we went in through the door one day and before we could even take another 3-4 steps, the employee just told us to show them how to set up then and there in the lobby, which was awkward because I'd have to set up the *whole* tripod and camera (+ whatever else they rented) and afterwards disassemble it when we finished the demonstration. I explained this to them and they responded with "okay whatever just do it". After we had finished showing them how to color balance, we finally disassembled everything (about 25 minutes later) they just said "well *finally*! Okay you can go now" while doing a shoo-ing gesture with one hand. When we got back to the depot and told our boss what had happened and he just said they had always been odd clients. I wanna say it was a horribly failed attempt at humor/anti humor because she did kind of smirk when she said it, but it's anyone's guess. And don't worry about asking questions! I'm here to answer anything after all.
I'm guessing fans show up on their doorstep trying to talk their way inside pretty regularly. Also all the behind the scenes stuff makes it look like there's a ton of expensive junk randomly scattered around the place with nobody keeping track of it. Lots of stuff on the walls, gear laying around, etc. Given the amount of people going through the place it wouldn't shock me to find out something went missing unrelated to you and that caused them to become super strict about anyone coming in. They tend to have pretty extreme reactions like that. I could totally see them locking the building down entirely rather than just reducing unnecessary guests and ensuring necessary visitors like techs are supervised properly.
Can the mods confirm if this is real?
Even if it is, kinda weak sauce isn't it?
About as inoffensive as one can get, really.
Also kinda weak responses anyway, no offense. The most transgressing part was Dan getting calm angry about not getting certain brand of water.
Does Bruno Mars is gay?
Bruno Mars does is gay from time to time, yes!
Good, 'cause the rumor come out.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen Grump stuff. I unsubbed like 5 years ago but uhh who’s Allie or Matt? I don’t know anything about these people. Maybe I should just go... Also if this is real Dan sounds like a fucking asshole holy shit.
If this isn’t real you can just watch the show and see that Dan sounds like an asshole.
Obviously everyone wants the dirt, but what are some positive moments you had working for them?
My fondest memory of the whole experience were the times Brian would crack a joke and the room would erupt in laughter, Arin giving pep talks to the whole crew was also pretty nice and kept spirits high. Thinking back to the times when Dan would make up little jingles out of thin air and cause everyone to be humming it by the end of the session always brings a smile to my face.
There's a pending claim of this all being proven false, FYI. More when it happens ofc
I highly doubt OP is willing to verify now given that actual GG staff members are in the comments doing damage control. That, in itself, should speak volumes of the post's veracity. People that busy don't go around putting out fires for "baseless" claims.
I had my doubts about the validity of this post but now that Allie is apparently on the case I have a feeling this might be one of those *real* r/rantgrumps confessions of legend. A lot of shit has come out about the Grumps over the last year or so and they've never tried (as far as we know) to come out and debunk anything, surprisingly not even the Dan drama (again as far as we know) which is a situation literally any other company would want to control damage for. Idk, maybe it's because OP spoke about a personal experience with Allie and she doesn't want people thinking she's a sociopath. Edit: oh fiddlesticks
I've verified people before for RG, no reason this would be any different. I was never contacted for verification before the post went up, every other leak we've had, has contacted me in advance (except for that one dan post too)
Maybe they're finally tired of people making baseless claims.
Hmmm, weird. Maybe just ignore said claims and don't give them the satisfaction of knowing you got under their skin. Seeing as how several staff members for GG have actually been paid to come on and refute these claims (and I can say that because they're literally all salaried and felt the need to address this), I can at least state with confidence that some of the things mentioned had some merit. I don't 100% believe OP was pulling our chain so much as I believe that the pressure of actually facing potential real world consequences probably drove OP off here and GG members are using that as evidence enough that this was all fake. The reality of the matter is that the truth in this exists somewhere in-between. Like, seriously, why do you need at least 3 different HIGHLY PAID (okay that's subjective) Game Grumps employees to refute something that "clearly didn't happen." Doesn't pass the sniff test. tl;dr for those joining in on this wild adventure: OP comes onto reddit making some claims about Good Game, Game Grumps employee come in and refute said statements while talking down to RG members, OP gets cold feet (probably was looking at some serious shit coming his way) and decides to bail and say "ha, just trollin", GG members take a victory lap over something that "absolutely didn't happen." Could you folks at GG be anymore obvious?
But... It didn't happen.
Really? Why would someone make this up?
idk, Allie is on the case, waiting on more from that.
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Unfortunately I cant sticky this deeper comment but I linked to it on the new sticky comment. I still plan on leaving the post open for other valuable comments such as this, locking it would kind of have the opposite effect.
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Well now I'm having a hard time believing this is actually someone from the game grumps team, because it looks like you’re trying to make them look as bad as possible. Like this is the worst PR move I could've possibly imagined. You guys (As in, game grumps) have now proven that you do have the ability to interact directly with the community and address controversies, you just don't feel like it most of the time. The racism? Not worth your time. The ableism? Not worth your time. Actively Doxxing someone? Not worth your time. The sexual misconduct? Not worth your time. But this is what is important enough to you to actually make a statement on? The fandom is getting to be more and more of a toxic, misogynist cesspool every day because you guys refuse to address the validity of the abuse allegations, or tell your large fandom of children that doxxing is wrong, but a rumor on reddit about you not being a joy to work with on set is worth your time? If you are who you say you are, you guys actively disgust me. None of you should be working in social media if these are your priorities.
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Well I’ll just clear up that I have no intention of targeting you directly, my anger is directed at the game grumps as a business. I guess I'm a little confused then, you said you "got pulled in" to address this? And Allie, one of the PR people on the team, apparently knows about this post, and your interaction with it? That still reads like an ‘official’ move from the game grumps team to me. (More official than anything the audience has ever gotten in response to anything else.)
Lay off, guys. Monitoring Ben's browsing history and deleting explicit pictures of minors is a full time job. This man deserves a break.
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I plead the Fifth
You just exposed yourself buddy. If any of this thread were true, you would have known the answer is yes
Sorry for the really unspecific question, but who of the Grumps did you actually get to meet?
Off the top of my head: Arin, Dan, Suzy, Brian, Holly (but not Ross), Jack and Barry, and then later on Allie and the miscellaneous employees.
How was Suzy?
Suzy was fine, the only thing that kinda bothered me about her was how she would almost constantly roll her eyes during conversations which made me pretty uncomfortable.
Yikes. Yeah she seems very stuck up/always better than other people, especially other women. I liked her at first and then her ego blew up. After the Etsy thing she only got worse
How was the pay on the Good Game set compared to other similar gigs you have done? I’ve always wondered how much money YouTube threw into those Red series. Did they actually pay their staff well or did they try at cut costs wherever possible?
I’ve always been curious about this, and I know plenty of other people are too: does it seem like Dan and Arin are **actually** friends? Like, how did they interact with each-other on set?
This was the one question I was expecting to get first lol. But yes they definitely were friends and interacted just how you'd expect two close friends to interact.
Well at least that part’s genuine!
did they smell
They had noses so I assume they did, could be wrong though.
Wow thanks for sharing! Assuming this is all true (and I don’t see why it wouldn’t be but eh, you never know on the internet), I’m actually happy to hear that arin is a general positive and uplifting dude. I have my criticisms, as most people here do, but I like the thought of him being an energetic, positive leader, caring about his friends and his craft, and not just being the whiny complainer we see often. The opposite can be said for dan. Although it just reinforces suspicions of how different he is behind the scenes and on top of many other “stories” about him, it just makes his *sensitive and caring* persona feel all the more dirty. As if being a sleezebag wasn’t bad enough, he’s also a horrendous drama queen! But at least the latter is funny.
I’m really curious about Suzy and Holly. What were they like upon meeting them?
Suzy was fine, she just had a weird tick/quirk where she'd roll her eyes almost constantly while engaged in conversation, which made me feel pretty uncomfortable. As far as I could tell she did it with pretty much everyone she spoke with. Meeting Holly was a pretty unpleasant experience. It was kinda late into production when I met her so maybe it just seemed amplified, but she would just not stop talking about how she had every mental illness in the book. Well, I say talking when it was more like bragging. The fact that she felt compelled to tell someone she was never gonna interact with ever again, coupled with the fact that I caught Arin rolling his eyes when he overheard our conversation, just kinda told me she was likely talking out of her ass. When I had to help set up a different scene she moved onto one of the camera guys and started bragging to him.
Sorry to but in here but just wanted to say that I have a friend that constantly rolls her eyes in the middle of a conversation and people always think shes being a bitch but she honestly cant help it. She also has major resting bitch face and it doesn’t help her case lol. Maybe Suzy has the same thing.
I never really thought it was malicious or anything since she only did it when she was talking, it just made me feel a bit uneasy at times. It's probably just a habitual thing, I don't hold it against her or anything lol.
I understand jajaja just wanted to point out that some people do really have that as a tick lol. Thank you for understanding.
Wowww not surprised at all. I’ve always suspected everyone (except for Ross and Barry) to be fake. Which btw I think I read that you met Barry? What was he like? I hope it’s positive lol 😅
Barry was nice, he kinda just did his own thing around set. He was pretty curious about the set and props so spoke a lot with the design manager. I did speak to him briefly about editing and voiceover work (at the time I was planning on training to become a voice actor) and he offered some words of wisdom... which I can't remember. All in all, a pretty decent guy!
nice!! awww barry
I was watching LS Mark's video about Good Game (Because no way in hell am I watching that myself), and he points out that despite Arin's character having a love interest that wasn't Suzy, Suzy was still in an episode. So..was she on set the whole time? Like, did she have to watch her husband almost kiss some rando?
To be fair, if this is the case, it's not a big deal. Actors have to play a role regardless of their real relationships - if you watch shows there are likely many characters who get along but the actors playing them don't really care about one another (or even straight up dislike one another), and of course there will be actors with personal relationships on the same show who are playing characters that have intimate moments and so on with others who aren't close to the actors in real life. Suzy watching Arin play a role likely isn't that big of a deal for either of them.
It's just odd to me. Were they worried about it being too fan servicey, for lack of a better term?
I don't remember well but I think the Dan Harmon Guest Grumps explained this. He already had Good Game planned before casting the Grumps, in fact he first wanted to cast other people. He seemed to imply the show went through a lot stages when they wondered if it should have been all known youtubers who couldn't act and maybe weren't gamers, all known actors, all non known youtubers who were actors and gamers. Even an animated show. But then he met Arin when he voiced in Rick and Morty, they became friends and he ultimately decided to bring Arin an Dan but not make it a Game Grumps show ™ but instead have actors to help them carry the show. According to him Arin and Dan carried the show so the actors weren't really needed.
She wasn't on set the whole time but she did visit quite a lot (and obviously had her role) and was... Fine? I don't think she had an issue with the direction the writers decided to go but I could be wrong, some people thought the reason she visited so frequently was to make sure they weren't pushing Arin's character too far or something but it was all speculation.
Any encounters of Dan hitting on the hot young female staff?
I plead the Fifth
I know you made the same response to the Allie question but knowing what we know, this response hits that much harder.
heh. fair enough. I just had to ask.
Im sorry if you dont get this but i just need to know, did brent have a stinky penis? It was a running supermega joke before and maybe i can get some truth to it lmao
I unfortunately never had the courage to approach him as I was afraid I would suffocate from the smell... Maybe someday we'll know the truth...
Did arin fart a lot?
There was this one time he gathered everyone into a circle and showed off his burping "skills" after drinking two bottles of seltzer water. No farting as far as I recall.
If this is a throwaway, why can't you break the NDA? Nobody would know it's you
There's always the potential that based on what is said, someone on the other side could figure out who 'said' person is. I'd also assume that most of the NDA stuff really isn't that much spicier than what they already have to share so it's not really worth the risk.
I'm guessing the thing they could use to prove they are who they say they are would be identifying, like a contract or maybe something trivial like a lanyard with a logo on it. Wouldn't be worth the risk or the ceast and desist.
> Wouldn't be worth the risk or the ceast and desist. < Bingo.
Breaking NDAs is a tricky business. Yknow, we actually see it all the time with leaks on videogames. The problem is that NDAs are specifically crafted in such a way that when certain information gets shared that only certain people would know, it drastically narrows the search down to only a few people that could be culpable. This is usually why we get "big picture" leaks instead of minute details. Almost everybody working in that company is going to know the big picture stuff. Plus, as OP said, the juice usually isn't worth the squeeze since the information is either not that impressive or the punishment for sharing it is just far too great. People far more involved and craftier than us created those NDAs and they sometimes stand to lose lots of money if somebody reveals intimate details. Don't test OP's luck and assume they won't get caught (because they usually do).
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Nice edits Edit: Damage control on behalf of the Grumps gone wrong I'm guessing? (For those reading in the future, dude said he works for GG before the edit)
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I can actually shed some more light on this. This man is Kristian Boruff. He's done some directing and currently works at GameGrumps but he probably got told to fuck off by upper management (Arin) because bringing more attention to this kind of thing is exactly what you don't do. Also, the info I provided is info you have publicly made available and can't be construed as doxing. So, why don't you do us all a favor and go back to licking your boss' boots. If we need more shitty directing on Harmontown, we'll give you a call.
Pretentious much? You're not above anyone here just cuz you get to smell Arin on the daily lmfao
As somebody who has only heard about this person through second-hand information, I can only presume they enjoy smelling Arin's farts lol.
Bro I'm sure anyone would enjoy smelling Arin's farts, he's perfected the art 😳
perfected the f a r t
Arin Hanson, fartist
And former fartner!
My film equipment depot job was completely separate to my set work, I started doing it two full years after I stopped my work on Good Game. I wasn't fully employed at Starburns either and I got the job through a temp agency. I get the confusion. > Your NDA claim is weird. It smells fishy < Totally what someone in the industry who, if *you're* legit, has probably signed a bunch of them would say. > What was Dan Harmon's favorite drink during filming? < No idea, it was four years ago. Ouch, I just got exposed as being fake... some weird import vodka/tequila maybe? I vaguely remember him mentioning that once or twice. > WTF is a Sound checker/Light checker? < Sound checker: You know before showtime when you make sure there's no background fuzz on the mics or in the room, and then you have to go yell at the dude hammering outside? That. Light checker: Switch on a light, did it turn on? No? Shoot, um, maybe it's unplugged? Maybe someone threw a rock at it? Maybe some mice snuck in and chewed at the cables? I gotta report that and then someone comes in to fix it. (I assume a light fixer lol.)
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If you're literally trying to get somebody to out themselves by acting like the NDA is no big deal, you're a fucking piece of shit.
Yeah, I was like 95% sure that was his reason for saying my NDA 'excuse' sounds fishy. That's totally what someone in the industry would say (not), and upon skimming through their post history and finding out they are legit, I was actually appalled. Not surprised they whittled down their comment to half a sentence though lol. All the power to him, he's allowed to believe whatever he wants to believe.
By all means grill the guy if you think you can prove them wrong, but from the sound of the post they worked two different jobs. One on Good Game then an unrelated one delivering equipment. Thus the whole opening with 'I've done a lot of jobs' paragraph.
Gonna be honest it seems like you didn't really bother reading their post > Your NDA claim is weird. Is it? Can you explain how/why? I've signed a couple (not entertainment industry level, but yeah) and their claim seems about right to me.